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September 13, 2024 13 mins

The latest edition of 'The All-Star Panel' features Rugby Writer Jamie Wall and Graeme 'Sportsfreak' Beasley.  

On this weekend's agenda... The Black Caps test and the embarrassment to ground staff, the New Super Rugby playoff system is announced, and the Football Ferns finally let go of their coach.  

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the All Sport Breakfast podcast with Darcy
Waldegrave from News Talk sed B All Sports Breakfast, All
Star Panel.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Nothing like a fiery Australian redhead sailor there, get up
your nose a Jamie Wall How are you?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, mate?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Not bad?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
We're hanging in their Graham the Sports Freak joins us
as well. These boys are part of our all star
panel as we look back at the big sports stories
of the week. Are you fine? Are you a bulliant? Graham?

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm all right for a Saturday morning people sounds flat?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I have more coffee. Right, Let's get into it. We'll
start with you, Graham, because I think I'll spent more
time talking cricket with you than anyone, well except when
good mate Andrew Brown. But there you go. Black Caps
test complete wash out, abandoned. So what that's the eighth
time and two and a half thousand tests and you
zeealing have been involved twice? Are good?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah? I go. I think this week has been a
great advertisement for Grace and Noider. Really it was due
to become the thirtiest test venue in India, but you
can see one of that tried twenty nine others. First,
it was amateur out, really, wasn't it. I Mean, first
of all, there was a lot of rain that fell,
so give them that. But the first two days were

(01:25):
beautifully sunny and just the extraordinary site of ground stuff
coming onto the field with a desk fan and extension
calls and all that kind of stuff. And then they
started cutting up grass in little sort of squares and
rectangles and then trying to relay that. I mean, who
even thought that that was a good idea?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I think I tell them it was underneath it was sodden,
not the grass on the top, but that really passed
the plight, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
And laying new chunks of grass, I mean, as if
players weren't going to slip over and break an ankle
and stuff like that as they had if they had
got on the field. It just seemed as if they
were really underprepared. And apparently other ground stuff from other
grounds and sort of in the in the nearby region
came into help out. But they were short of covers,
you know. I mean in Sri Lanka where you also

(02:14):
get them onsoon and stuff, they cover the whole ground,
you know, they don't just cover the pitch block they
got covers everywhere and that seems to work. So it
just seems that they're extremely underprepared. I can see why
Afghanistan does want a permanent space rather than just sort
of getting getting sent to various parts of India that
happened to be available that week. So I can see

(02:38):
the thought behind it. But it would appear that they've
been sold in absolute dot.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, and Jamie Wall, the BCCI, the all knowing, all
powerful Indian Cricket Control Board, punched themselves in the face,
but their team wasn't playing, so they don't care, right.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, it's not a great look for anyone really. I
just it's just interesting how it's the first test that
ever got played at the venue. But they also it
was also evident who stay on the job. It's like
as well, you know, it's like a bunch of groundsmen
who are like, oh right, so that's what we have
to do. Oh we did we had to make the

(03:18):
ground dry. How do we do that? Oh yeah, let's
bring out off a disk fan.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
About those handheld fans that they fan themselves doing that
that'd be next. That'd be just as good.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, it's not a great look. I mean also I
would have thought that playing Afghanistan in a new country
probably should have been Pakistan because it's at least as
close to it's going to done as you can get.
But yeah, I feel like there might be a bit
more to this in terms of like b c CI,
just a bit of you know, behind the scenes kind

(03:55):
of like, well, we don't care about this, so let's
make it as ridiculous as possible, which is, you know,
just you know, have you put your conspiracy head on?
Like these these all do count for the wild tiest
chair benships. So yeah, I don't want to don't want
to say that they did it on pair of this,
but I willn't be supposed with it.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
We'll stick with you Jamie or Rugby say your bag. Obviously,
super Rugby playoff system has been announced. Plenty of people
appear to know better than the people charged and actually
putting it together, which always found interesting. They're hardly going
to hobble themselves. But what what do you make of
what they've done. I mean they've had to make some
changes because they've got a lopside competition.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Well yeah, I mean they had to make changes because
you can't have eleven team camp and eight teams in
the playoffs. So they've done. That's done the most. They've
done the most sensible thing, which is to cut the
number of teams in class. But they'd still need to
retain that extra week of playoffs football.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
And I I agree with it.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
I think it's fine, Like there's no no real difference
between this in the NROL, and I think anyone getting
up in arms about this is just kind of having
a wunch for the sake of having a winge, because
it's not really that hard to understand. It's just, you know,
the top fourteen playoffs and the last one gets another go.
It's just the same as what's happening this weekend with
the Roosters and the Storm and the Sharks and the

(05:16):
bloody other ones. There's no real difference. So if you
can't understand the way that it works, maybe you should
go playing on the sport.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Graham you would have had a look at it. I
think of the good thing about this as well, Hey,
look they're listening to the public. They're not flooding us
with Sunday games in afternoon games and the time say okay,
we'll roll a few, we'll see how it goes. If
you turn up and the broadcast partners like it, maybe
will you do more? So they haven't gone nuts, but
they've got we're actually listening to you, which I think

(05:46):
is the important part about this. Suddenly the fans are important.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yeah. I agree, it's it's not a perfect format, but
as Jamie says, it's very easy to understand. The only
thing wrong with it is that the team that finishes
fourth can lose and still make the semi final. That
doesn't think quite right. But certainly, having six out of
eleven qualifying for the playoffs, it's a lot better than
eight out of twelve. I mean it was. It was

(06:12):
a bit fascal this year when the Crusaders was sort
of like two and ten and still had a chance
of making the playoffs at one stage, that was all
of it silly. So I think I think this is
an improvement. As Jamie says, it is like the NRL
system assistant. They're not as many teams and so you know,
you can have that fourth place team making it through
the semis. But that's just the minor quibble really, and

(06:36):
it's certainly easy to understand. I seen people saying, oh,
you know, it's really really complicated. Well, actually no it's not.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
No, it's not. And I think what was only more
fascal than what happened last year with Canterbury was the
actual Crusaders team themselves. And I say that as a fan. Graham,
the Sports Free vsy Jamie wall joining us on the
All Star panel seventeen Away from nine will cover off
the chaos for the football fans and more ferns as

(07:02):
well of the black variety with a King fourteen and
Minister nine All Star panel on the All Sport Breakfast
to Jamie Waller Graham Sports freak Beasley with this Graham
to you the Yitka klink of the affairs finally finished,

(07:26):
not that you'd know, sort of about three words from
New Zealand football. They're just pretending like it never happened.
That's It's true to four, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Graham? Sadly? I mean, first of all, when I heard
the news yesterday, I thought, well't hasn't this happened before?
And of course it had happened before. But you're saying
that finally the year is over. It's actually not, because
she's got another six months now of being some high
performance That's right.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, she's not coaching anymore, but she's still on the I.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Know.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
And so who exactly is she going to be coaching?
Is she going to be coaching the players who it
would appear done particularly like her. This is going to
be some sort of six months of revenge when she's
going to get them to carry rocks up to the
top of the closest hell and come down again and
all that kind of stuff. I mean, how is that
six months going to play out? And also, as you say,
the fact that they wouldn't front the media yesterday after

(08:18):
an announcement like that if you're sack your national coach,
and then there's this weird subplot about how she's staying
on for six months about it? Sure, you have to
front the media and answer questions because you know, in
a vacuum, people are just going to come up with
all sorts of conspiracy theories.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
That's what vacuums do. Absolutely, and it's not going to stop.
But it's true to form Jamie wall From and Hew
Zealand Football are then notoriously coy and difficult to deal
with when they want to be.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, absolutely no surprise at all. And like I have said,
but I'm like this is like the third announcement that's
it led to her leaving this job. It's like the
slowest walkout the door you're ever going to see. But
then again, I probably wouldn't be saying anything either, given
that they signed her on to one of the worst

(09:09):
deals in sports since Warren Gatlin got hired by the Chiefs,
Like this is this was such a bad deal, Like
no football coach anywhere, like from Premier League all the
way down get signed on to six years. It's ridiculous.
And the fact that she was pretty much hired like
sight unseen as well, and then it only took about

(09:31):
a year before the players to be like, yeah, we
don't like I think there's probably a story deer as well,
Like it's probably sort of two sides to this, this
whole thing were probably didn't gonna find out. But the
fact that it's taken this long and it's going to
be another like six months of what's essentially just a
severance pay to get her out the door is such

(09:55):
a bad look at all. And the fact that they're
not fronting about it and not saying, hey, we kind
of stuffed up here, but we committed to doing better
because this team deserves better, says a lot about that.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Now.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
It's a long line of disastrous appointments for the for
the football Ferns, isn't it. I mean some have been good,
but a lot of them have just been terrible over
the last few years. But hey, the reason she's sticking
around for another six months is something to your severance,
Plainly it is. Otherwise I don't think she'd be doing much.
She'd be sitting in an office by herself, managing her
desk toys like her phone and I don't know how

(10:29):
it's good, but enough, we're going to get away from
this Graham. Let's go to the Blake Ferns hugging King Charles.
If that's not the best bit of pr from the
royal family that they've had since he's become king, I
don't know what is. And they didn't even do anything.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, that's right, it was. It was fantastically all round. Really,
that's that's how you do it. There have been two
for examples of social media this week. One is the
other one is the Tessmond Marco who just owned things
all week. But back to the Ferns. Yeah, I think
it was brilliant and that's the side of Prince Charles
I've never seen. I've always thought he was, you know,
kind of like a grumpy old man really and the

(11:06):
head they were hanging and there he was spontaneously really
happy about it. So yeah, so it was great for
the royal family and great for the Black fans.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
And Jamie. I've got a British girlfriend and she said
to me, I've never seen King Charles like there before
in my life. We didn't realize exactly the same as
what Graham said. And it was instant and it wasn't
put on. It wasn't a Docky series like Kate What's
going on with Her? It was a guy genuinely happy
with all I happened. They've got Mark Robinson of the backgrounds,

(11:34):
all the big old grin on his face too. This
is life affirming stuff, surely, Jane.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I mean, I don't know who did better plays out
of this, the Black films are they? I think Charles himself.
I feel like he's he's done a great number on
this because it's gone. It's gone pretty worldwide after this.
Like the first thing I saw of it was Piers
Morgan pointing it and saying brilliant, which is like the collaboration.
I never knew we needed Piers Morgan at the Black Films,

(12:02):
but there's there's something quite charming about the whole thing,
something very wholesome, And I think that everyone's doing well
o this. If the Blackfis should back it up by
actually playing well tomorrow morning against England and actually coming
out with the result, it'd be the perfect way to
kind of seal that off. But as Graham said, great

(12:22):
use of social media by the Black Ferns and by Tasman.
But in Tasman's case, I mean, good on them for
making the most of the week that they're going to
have the shield.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
And I was going to ask for both of you,
who's going to win tomorrow, but you're both welling Tony
and so it's pointless to ask.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Right, Yeah, you don't need to really do. But the
mark I have done fantastically. I thought one of the
best bits of trolling was putting out a photo of
the raff of the shield with a can of coc
on top of it. That was absolutely fantastic and a
real sort of dig at the previous holders of this shield.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Indeed, and on that Jamie, I know where you're going
now down. I think we might have even started a
scrape on Twitter about it, and that's what Twitter's there for.
Jamie Wall, Thanks for your time, Grahame, these things for yours.
Have wonderful weekends, men.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
No worries tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's eight minutes to nine. Jason Pine up next in
studio to tell us what's going on in his program,
Stacey Jones, The Little Generals in Town. He'll be happy
here sitting in this seat. Bason on Jason City, taking
your calls. Jason Pine forecast the show next here on
News Talk's EB.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
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