January 29, 2025 • 7 mins
The Minister for "Digging it Up, and Damming it Up" gets on the front foot and takes it to "woke banks" limiting the productive sector, Green MPs, and his former leader Dame Jacinda Ardern.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, this was going to be an exclusive for the Country,
(00:02):
an interview that was sent up ten days ago. But
as usual, the food chain takes precedents and my lunch
was cut by Mike Hosking this morning. But I've got
to line up in the queue and here I am
Shane Jones to kick off the country. Shane, you have
got a big mining announcement coming up tomorrow, but I
want to firstly carry on from where you left off
with Mike Hosking this morning on woke banks, de banking
(00:27):
some fossil fuel companies. I think it's the thin end
end of the wedge. Farmers are next.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh look, these are alien, foreign concepts imposed upon our
farming community by directors executives in the banking industry. They
are inflicting their luxury beliefs on God fearing kiwis trying
to run honest businesses. They live in sustainability units. They
(00:55):
seem to conceive of all these ideas through you in
connections inversely related to our economic prospects. They've got to
be called out. They in my view, they should all
be sacked. The sooner that these sustainability units are dismissed
from the banks. The better the prospects for regional New
Zealand without a guts full of these work riddled virtue
(01:18):
signaling people who have no accountability. What citizen mandated them
to dry companies such as coal mining industries to bankruptcy?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, what are you going to do about it? You're
in power.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, the first thing that we're doing in New Zealand
first is proceeding with a private members bill and hopefully
I'll hire it win the hearts and minds of my
colleagues over. Every bank in New Zealand must operate within
the confines of a banking license. Those licenses should give
no scope for virtue signaling social engineering from banks to
(01:56):
change the economic fortunes of families and firms alike. It
is wrong and in my view, they have no authority
to distort or indeed molest our industries in regional New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, I note that when you were talking to Husking
this morning, the issue was raised of maybe Kiwibank taking
a different perspective on this, but even Kiwibank is railing
against funding some of these companies.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, I have received a message from the chief executive officer,
who I regard as a very formidable executive asking me
to call him, And all I'm going to say to
the CEO is my staff took the information off the website. Now,
perhaps the website has been misconstrued by my staff, but
(02:48):
this is a great opportunity for Kiwibank to continue to
bank industries in New Zealand that create jobs and generate
export revenue. We don't need to swallow the climate cultism
coming from the United Nations. We need to generate economic
surplus every hour, every day, every week. And Kiwibank is
(03:10):
owned by the Crown. New Zealand first would certainly have
stood back from any capital rays to expand qEV Bank
if we had been told that they were going to
use that capital raise to drive legitimate businesses such as
coal mining, mining in general farmers out of existence in
(03:31):
order to meet these illusory targets to change the weather
in Mongolia. It's wrong, it's alien, and it's been driven
by these dangerous influences such as these idiots that comprise
the Green Party.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well will come back to the Mexican standoff if we
get time. Look as wokeness now as we know it
under threat from Trumpism, because you know you look at
Jacinda Trudeau enlightenment and kindness almost so. Twenty twenty now
has the world changed.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
The world is a far more robust, a far more
dynamic place than the juvenile, shallow, naive approach that Jasinda
and others talk that left New Zealand an estate of
financial penury. I think it's quite obnoxious the way which
(04:27):
she Sinda is parading around with a movie that she
was secretly making, most imposing COVID regulations upon every key family.
No one knew that everything she did she was doing
it for a camera that her and her people knew
would one day be exploited to make a movie about
her life. That's why she can never come back to
(04:48):
New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, we've got you and Winston to blame for that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
No, you don't. We were thrown out of politics in
twenty twenty, and the COVID madness actually happened with all
your armer's wives voted for her.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm going back to twenty seventeen, but.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You can't hold us responsible for what happened in twenty twenty.
We were voted out.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, Jacinda wouldn't have been there in the first place
if you'd stuck with Bill English. But anyhow, we're relitigating
history here.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
You're going backwards. You need to go forward.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We need to go forwards. Well Son, let's go forward
to tomorrow the big speech and why he obviously, and
why he it's going to be about mining? What are
you digging up and damming up? Now?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Obviously the gold mine there exemplifies all of the skills,
the capacity, the machinery, the capital that shows this is
a valuable industry. These are well paying jobs. Naturally, I'm
going to uphold the importance of guardrails. I'll make suitable
(05:50):
references to Freddie the Frog. There'll be a bit of
a din I suppose around the security fence from these
growing knowles who don't want capitalism, who don't want our
economy to grow on the basis of minerals. But that's
part of being in the democracy. And the other thing
I'm going to remind you see this is tomorrow we
(06:14):
have our host of climate change oriented regulations that represent headways.
We cannot afford them. We run the risk of driving
industrialization for this indiscriminate climate regulatory approach, which is why
the Climate Change Commission is on thin ice. The last
(06:35):
chap is gone. Commissioners are the chap from down the
South Island. He's gone. Good riddance to him now. Unless
we concede and tighten up climate change regulations, the public
is going to reject them at the next election.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
How do you reckon Ricardo Mendez March will be marching
in protest tomorrow while you make your speech at why.
He will be another thing that can stand off.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Two words for him.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Eddie Elsamigo, Shane Shanes, Eddie Osk, thank you very much
for your time today on the country.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Same my
Well, this was going to be an exclusive for the Country,
(00:02):
an interview that was sent up ten days ago. But
as usual, the food chain takes precedents and my lunch
was cut by Mike Hosking this morning. But I've got
to line up in the queue and here I am
Shane Jones to kick off the country. Shane, you have
got a big mining announcement coming up tomorrow, but I
want to firstly carry on from where you left off
with Mike Hosking this morning on woke banks, de banking
(00:27):
some fossil fuel companies. I think it's the thin end
end of the wedge. Farmers are next.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh look, these are alien, foreign concepts imposed upon our
farming community by directors executives in the banking industry. They
are inflicting their luxury beliefs on God fearing kiwis trying
to run honest businesses. They live in sustainability units. They
(00:55):
seem to conceive of all these ideas through you in
connections inversely related to our economic prospects. They've got to
be called out. They in my view, they should all
be sacked. The sooner that these sustainability units are dismissed
from the banks. The better the prospects for regional New
Zealand without a guts full of these work riddled virtue
(01:18):
signaling people who have no accountability. What citizen mandated them
to dry companies such as coal mining industries to bankruptcy?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Well, what are you going to do about it? You're
in power.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, the first thing that we're doing in New Zealand
first is proceeding with a private members bill and hopefully
I'll hire it win the hearts and minds of my
colleagues over. Every bank in New Zealand must operate within
the confines of a banking license. Those licenses should give
no scope for virtue signaling social engineering from banks to
(01:56):
change the economic fortunes of families and firms alike. It
is wrong and in my view, they have no authority
to distort or indeed molest our industries in regional New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, I note that when you were talking to Husking
this morning, the issue was raised of maybe Kiwibank taking
a different perspective on this, but even Kiwibank is railing
against funding some of these companies.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well, I have received a message from the chief executive officer,
who I regard as a very formidable executive asking me
to call him, And all I'm going to say to
the CEO is my staff took the information off the website. Now,
perhaps the website has been misconstrued by my staff, but
(02:48):
this is a great opportunity for Kiwibank to continue to
bank industries in New Zealand that create jobs and generate
export revenue. We don't need to swallow the climate cultism
coming from the United Nations. We need to generate economic
surplus every hour, every day, every week. And Kiwibank is
(03:10):
owned by the Crown. New Zealand first would certainly have
stood back from any capital rays to expand qEV Bank
if we had been told that they were going to
use that capital raise to drive legitimate businesses such as
coal mining, mining in general farmers out of existence in
(03:31):
order to meet these illusory targets to change the weather
in Mongolia. It's wrong, it's alien, and it's been driven
by these dangerous influences such as these idiots that comprise
the Green Party.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well will come back to the Mexican standoff if we
get time. Look as wokeness now as we know it
under threat from Trumpism, because you know you look at
Jacinda Trudeau enlightenment and kindness almost so. Twenty twenty now
has the world changed.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
The world is a far more robust, a far more
dynamic place than the juvenile, shallow, naive approach that Jasinda
and others talk that left New Zealand an estate of
financial penury. I think it's quite obnoxious the way which
(04:27):
she Sinda is parading around with a movie that she
was secretly making, most imposing COVID regulations upon every key family.
No one knew that everything she did she was doing
it for a camera that her and her people knew
would one day be exploited to make a movie about
her life. That's why she can never come back to
(04:48):
New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, we've got you and Winston to blame for that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
No, you don't. We were thrown out of politics in
twenty twenty, and the COVID madness actually happened with all
your armer's wives voted for her.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I'm going back to twenty seventeen, but.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You can't hold us responsible for what happened in twenty twenty.
We were voted out.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, Jacinda wouldn't have been there in the first place
if you'd stuck with Bill English. But anyhow, we're relitigating
history here.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
You're going backwards. You need to go forward.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We need to go forwards. Well Son, let's go forward
to tomorrow the big speech and why he obviously, and
why he it's going to be about mining? What are
you digging up and damming up? Now?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Obviously the gold mine there exemplifies all of the skills,
the capacity, the machinery, the capital that shows this is
a valuable industry. These are well paying jobs. Naturally, I'm
going to uphold the importance of guardrails. I'll make suitable
(05:50):
references to Freddie the Frog. There'll be a bit of
a din I suppose around the security fence from these
growing knowles who don't want capitalism, who don't want our
economy to grow on the basis of minerals. But that's
part of being in the democracy. And the other thing
I'm going to remind you see this is tomorrow we
(06:14):
have our host of climate change oriented regulations that represent headways.
We cannot afford them. We run the risk of driving
industrialization for this indiscriminate climate regulatory approach, which is why
the Climate Change Commission is on thin ice. The last
(06:35):
chap is gone. Commissioners are the chap from down the
South Island. He's gone. Good riddance to him now. Unless
we concede and tighten up climate change regulations, the public
is going to reject them at the next election.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
How do you reckon Ricardo Mendez March will be marching
in protest tomorrow while you make your speech at why.
He will be another thing that can stand off.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Two words for him.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Eddie Elsamigo, Shane Shanes, Eddie Osk, thank you very much
for your time today on the country.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Same my
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