November 13, 2025 • 36 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Christopher Luxon, Wayne Langford, Richard Loe, Chris Brandolino, Kate Acland, Stu Duncan and George Dodson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Catch all the latest from the land. It's the Country
Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks to Brent, You're specialist in
John Deere construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
True nobody knows.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Good Day, New Zealand, a good afternoon, and welcome to
the Country. The show is brought to you by brand
Wigo Country on the Country on a Friday, especially for
our first guest, Prime Minister Christopher Luxelon, who absolutely loves
country music.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Who's your hot artist at the moment, PM.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Well, there's so many, but you know, Zach Bryan's really good.
Speaker 6 (00:41):
And we had a great performer this morning, Age singing
Strong Country Strong, which was pretty awesome. She was great
and great Kiwi kiey young person's come in loves country
music too, so I'm just part of my education member.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
I said to you had come on your show.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
Every week if we could talk an upgrade New Zealand's
understanding your country music from country and western and all
the twangy stuff into the well.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I need to get a shameless plug in for our
iHeart Country station.
Speaker 7 (01:03):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 8 (01:04):
You listen to that, Yes, I have, I have.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
I have tuned into it a few times. But us
younger kids these days we just go off our Spotify playlists,
so we don't we're not sitting in the you know,
me being it with the millennials and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know, yeah, rock and roll and slightly right the
issues of the day. You know what amuses me about
your politicians as you have people standing behind you who
officially are there just to not in the background. Today,
we've got Grant McCullum.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
He's one of our best nodders.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, Nicola Willis, not Nichola Willis, will try Nicola Griggs here,
and I'm thinking I would sooner have Nicola in the
background nodding Nicola.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
We've got Mike Butterick, we could have Miles Anderson. We
should have had a whole quartette of not us.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, they're really good. But Grant's excellent at it.
I mean he is affected that.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Very well, well, yeah, affected some political skills. As a
focus group told you that not as are effective in
the background.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
I gotten. I've got no idea. But how good is this?
Speaker 8 (02:04):
This is good?
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Like it's a classic, you know, stinking hot Canary Day
just cranking up, which is great. And I've just been
wandering around the show and it's been really awesome people
in good shape.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
So this must bring back memories for you, your christ Church
more and bred you were to come to the show
every year is a good.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
And I think I said to you earlier this morning
was that, you know, my grandmother used to work at
Burke's Catering and it was a big, big, big week
for her as well at the show and it was awesome.
So and I brought back a lot of great memories actually,
and it's I was actually even this week just you know,
great anticipation coming at you.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
It's really good.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Okay, let's look at some of the issues of the day.
And I know you hate poles. You're a bit like
Jim Bolger. You'll say, bug of the poles. But the
latest Talbot Mills poll has labor at thirty eight percent.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 6 (02:45):
I just say to you, I think when people take
a I don't comment on the poles because there's a
hell of a lot of different numbers that we you know,
and I just got to say, focused on what I've
got to do, which is sort.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
The country out.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
But you know, when you think about Hipkins and Martam
Davidson and DeBie, Now what I Pack and Raweri and
you know Chloe, And then you think about the two
new independents that are in the mix. That's going to
be hell of a government if they ever got through.
So I think that's your motivation to avoid that.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Do you think some of the reason for the uptick
in labor because there is, to be fair, if you
average all the polls out, they are creeping up awey
bit their potential coalition partners are going the other way
with just cause too, I might add, But do you
think some of it do people like, for instance, the
capital gains tax?
Speaker 6 (03:28):
No, I mean people, that's a tax on every single
business in the country, right, because if you've got to
operate out of a commercial premise, that's a cost that
you've got to pass on. That's a tax on every
key we saver account because your own businesses and they've.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Got to deal with that cost.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
But that's also a tax on a hard working tradee
who's actually decided to buy a badge, you know, or
you know, mum and dad have got one rental property
to help support them in their retirement. So you know,
I just think think the answer is a tax. Their
way is the tax your way out of it. And
what was interesting to me was there's no change to
what they're doing. They just want to go back to
what they've always done, which is spend more, tax more,
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borrow more. And you know, we're cleaning up that ungodly
mess because they lifted spending bay eighty four percent and
put us in the hole. You know, the borrowing went
from sixty billion to one hundred and eighty billion. We
had to write an interest bill out the other day.
I know the farmers listening got a big interest bills,
but man, we had to write out nine to ten
billion dollar bill the other day. That's five to need
in hospitals that I could be building every year that
I can't because we've got debt, just the interest on
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that debt.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So, if you're going to broaden of the tax space,
and that's a separate argument, but if you were to
accruise some money, surely the best way to spend it
on health would be to put it into the health
budget rather than give every man and his dog three
free visits to a Doctuh.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
You and I don't need a free visit, right And
so the other thing that we've done yesterday is effect
of February will be saying, if you've got regular medicines,
for example, we're going to let you have a prescription
repeat for up to twelve months, meaning you don't have
to go back to your doctor every three months and
get a new prescription.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Now, that alone.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Says two doctors visits a year, and labor won't support that.
That then frees up a hell of a lot of
doctor is to actually see people that are on their
lists and they're waiting lists. They can get into a
doctor in a much easier way. So there's just it
just doesn't make sense. And the other thing was there
was this crazy policy they had about something called a
Future funds where they were going to put all the
assets into but then that those assets generates six hundred
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million dollars of dividends and that pays for some of
your health and education anyway, So you know that the
dog don't hard and they're just not economically literate.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Those guys, I want to talk to you about asset sales.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You have indicated a keenness to fill the coffers kurd
is just some asset sales. You have got a problem.
What do you do with the problem?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Like Winster, Well, I mean I think.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
What I'm trying to say is, you know, you got
to ask yourself the question. You know, you know farmers
have balance sheets. Everyone has a balance sheet, and the
question is have you got your cash tied up and
the best possible things? That's all I'm saying. So if
you look at something like a they say Land Corp.
You know, there's got one hundred and forty farms and
there I think they're about two point four billion dollars.
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They've brand about a two percent return. You know, if
you think about the two point four billion just stuck
into a five hundred index funded at twelve percent return?
Speaker 5 (06:03):
What is that difference at ten percent?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Are you put Parmu on the block.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
No, I'm just I'm just using that as an illustration.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Say, well, is that actually be a conversation where you
could legitimately say.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Is that better? Is that better?
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Is that cash working harder for New zealand doing something else?
Because that means we could build a hospital or a
school or a road that we can't do today because
the capital is tied up in things that aren't generating
good enough returns. So that's all I'm trying to say
is let's let's be a bit more intelligent. Let's be
a bit more strategic, more sophisticated. If you want to
have a conversation about asset recycling, let's do that. But
let's also not just go back to the old hash
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hashed up sort of political.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Like you're you're pretty much hamstrung though, because a couple
of things that you would really like to do, some
asset sales and raging, raising the age of national super
they will not happen as long as Winston's drawing breath,
and you won't can't govern without Winston.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Well, let's see, I mean, we we are we well,
we we had a.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Very differentive opinion on foreign buyer band remember as well, right,
and we actually got to a better place through having
a conversation where I think Whenson came off his position,
we came off our position and we actually got to
a good place. But I think we should make the case.
And I think, you know, you know, I think when
you look at you know, as a national party, we
feel like we've got everything we campaigned on done and
you know, being done and delivered the two things we're
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foreign by a man and lifting this retirement age of
sixty seven. I think that makes sense because people are
living in a year and a half longer every ten
years in this country that goes on. It's also the
sensible thing financially and UK, Canada, Australia all at sixty seven.
And it's also I'm looking at the demo demography of
it all and say, well, you do it in a
phased way, you do it in a sensible ways. It
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doesn't impact people today, but you'd have time to adjust
to it. We should have that kind of conversation because
otherwise we're talking again tens of billions of dollars we
don't get to spend helping Keywis get ahead.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Perhaps the final one for you, we've got Grant McCullum
nodding vigorously in the background, going he's just coming back
and coming back into shop now to do some nodding.
But I want to pay tribute if I can to
one of your ministers who I think's had the toughest
gig in the past few weeks, and that's Mark Mitchell.
Obviously the controversy around the police and also the great
work he's done because he seems to be always on
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the ground as emergency Management minister.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Yeah, he's a good personal friend of mine, but he's
also our great minister and he's done a brilliant job
because he's one of those great operational leaders and he
loves to you.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Know, you'll watch them. Will be a potential emergency.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
He's down on the West Coast before the events actually happened.
He's engaging with the local government. He's talking to the
local civil defense folk. And if you think about the
handling of say the Porthill's fire here in Canterbury, or
you think about the potential flooding event that we had
and weather event we had in Dunedin, we had two
very similar events in both those cases and each time
they were handled much better. So now he's a good
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man and he's importantly a good leader.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Prime Minister Christopher Luck and thanks as always for your time,
and enjoy the rest of the day at the christ
Chain we have fun or the.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Canterbury amp Royal Show.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
We will do you take care there we go, Prime
Minister Christopher Lux and it is a quarter past twelve.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I'm just looking for my next guest.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
Where is he.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
He's lost a bit of weight, so he's not as
easy to spot as he used to. Richard Lowe sitting
in for Hamish MacKaye on for MacKaye on Sport. So
we're going to take a break here on the country.
I see St Stu Duncan's here, so we'll be talking
to someone after the break, hopefully Richard.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Low when sid.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Welcome back to the country.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Coming to you from the Canterbury Amp Show Day two.
Yesterday was a bit of a shocker, but today is
a stunning day and the place is absolutely packed. Where
we were going to be talking to former All Black
prop and hard man Richard Lowe, who was sitting in
for his mate Hamish mckaye for MacKaye on Sport, but
he's gone missing an action. So from one great front
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rower to another. Wayne Yolo Langford, President of Federated Farmers,
very useful in the front row, I'm told Wayne.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Best welcome I've had in a long time. Dad, That
is absolutely true. All of up to small to be
in the front row. You'd be surprised of what I
can do.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, well, I mean you're old.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Your predecessor Andrew Hoggard there was a man who was
built for the front row.
Speaker 9 (10:09):
Yes, yes, I'll tell you a bit of a yarn
about that. We played a game of rugby, you know,
Feeds vs. Parliament and blah blah blah. I had him,
had andrew out on the out, on White on the wing,
had him in space, threw the ball out to him.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
What did he do? He cuts back. He was definitely
not going wide. Good work.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Okay, now that I hear through the grapevine. And there
was a lot of whispers going on this morning about
some big story breaking with Federated farmers on Mondays, something
to do with consents. Do you want to fly a kite, You.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Must have you must have your head to the ground.
You must know what's going on within the.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Let's be honest.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You feed scrammed up on me this morning and chewed
my ears.
Speaker 9 (10:48):
Hey, everyone's heard about it, this issue with consents where
they're going and the fact that it's absolutely ridiculous the
money that farmers are having to pay. And so we'll
be beginning our campaign on this next week next month,
and no doubt you have us back on the show
to talk about it more. But it is a huge
issue for farmers, not only here in Canterbury but across
the country. How do we take this money that's been
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wasted on consents with a new RMA coming and get
a roll over these consents.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
That's going to help these farmers going forward.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Well, the poster boy for Federated Farmers on this one's
a former member of Federated Farmers or spokesperson, David Clark,
and he was in the ridiculous situation on his Canterbury
arable farm of costing him fifty grand to get a
consent to farm and the easiest way for him to
get a consent was to apply to convert his arable
farm to dairy farming.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
How does that work?
Speaker 9 (11:39):
It's absolutely insanity, right, And what are we trying to achieve?
And that's why we need to go right back to
the start of here. What are we doing and where
are we going with it? And I think when you
look at the changes that they're looking to the RMA
and what they're doing there, that's what that's all about.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
And so that's why.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
We're saying, hey, let's roll these over, wait till this
new RM is in and then and then we'll get
these consents sorted from there.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So how are things in the Tasman Nelson Bay region,
Because I know we've talked about Southland, Southwest Otargo, we've
talked about North Canterbury. They've both been hammered in recent
times by wind events. But you guys got sucker punched twice,
didn't you with storms in the winter months.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
Yeah, and it was definitely a rough time and we're
bouncing back in the still. You can still certainly see
the effects of where the floods have been, but we're
bouncing back.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Probably more of the issue was just this cold, gray,
wet weather. You know.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
I think it's a bit similar to the South on
the spring of last year. So I mean everyone's kind
of break even on milk production and where we're taking along.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
It's just we're missing a bit of the cream off
the tops.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Were you getting a bit dry up there?
Speaker 9 (12:41):
Well, we had a week with no rain and it
looked like that pavement down there on the road it
was as hard as a rock. And we got some
rain yesterday morning, as I was saiding off to Wellington,
So yeah, we'll be right.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
So what are the other big issues coming across your
desk as the president of the Federated Farmers.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
Definitely wilding pines and the peace wilding pines and peat issue.
We think we're getting somewhere with that and so I
look forward to updating on that one soon. I got
another meeting meeting and well it's not on that one
on Tuesday. So let's hope we get somewhere with that. Yeah,
we've got some messages getting getting the likes of the key.
We save a deal across the line. We were hoping
to have that one before Christmas.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Let's hope we can get that.
Speaker 9 (13:17):
But ultimately too, we're heading out on the road with
the Prime Minister. I think over the next couple of weeks. Jeez,
I'm probably dropping that one, but really too. Yeah, and
that's news, and so you'll hear a bit more about
that as we work our way into the Christmas.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, okay, hey, well, Wayne Langford, we're going to take
a break. I don't know where the hell Richard Lowe's gone.
You might have to fill in for running. What's your
sports knowledge?
Speaker 9 (13:38):
Like we just saw a young Farm of the Year
and walk past to George George.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I've got George on the run sheet. But a wee
bit later in the air he's on the farmer panel
with old Stute.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
When I say old Stu Duncan, he's my advantage.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Stu Duncan and George Dodson, a farmer panel Young and Old.
We also have Kate Ackland from Beef and Lamb. New
Zealand's going to wander along here. Chris Brandolino from niewhere.
He ain't at the show today, but we want to
catch up with him and see if we can get
some follow up brain for the dry parts of the country.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
I'm heading down to Silverfon Farms for a bit of
beef brisket. I think they've got on the menu down there,
so that's where I'm heading. My mother in law before
she comes up to me and she says, oh, how
do I sneak into silver fir And Farms to get.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Some of this beef brisket for lunch?
Speaker 9 (14:22):
I was standing there talking to Dan Bolton and he said, well,
maybe you might want to talk to me because I'm.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
The boss, right.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I am hearing unofficially that the best lunch here at
Field Days is at silver Firm Farm. So I'm got
to catch a plane as soon as I've get off
here so I might avail myself.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Okay, we'll take a break.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Have we got George Dobson Is he running around here somewhere?
We've got stew duncan Look, we're going to take a break,
try and get ourselves organized and we'll come back with
somebody on day or from day two of the Canterbury
Amp Royal Show.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Sylvy in a ho.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Mackay on sport with Farmlands protect your crops from nasties
this summer.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Well, welcome back to the country twenty six after twelve
beautiful day in christ churchs for day two of the
Canterbury Amp Show. Now this is a great honor to
have him sitting in on the show. Here is, believe
it or not, the Royal Show's Supreme Livestock Judge Richard Lowe.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
What is that job? Entail?
Speaker 8 (15:29):
Great title? Isn't it nothing? I was taking what is it? Entitle?
Speaker 7 (15:34):
That?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Entitles are after each section judge their supreme animal, which
down the cattle have done? They've done the sheep, the
meat and wall sections. I suppose I saw one out
the horse, big gray, big gray, mayor won that or golding.
I think it was one that So after a get all,
I have to somehow judge who's the supreme of all
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the supremes. It's a bit of a poison chalice, but
it'll be fun.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Well, I hear that the President of the Royal Show,
Brent Chamberlin, was a wee bit worried that you might
be open for brides.
Speaker 8 (16:06):
I am, I am just put it out there.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
All I've been offered so far is a cold steiny afterwards,
which is a bit ranked.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
Really, it should have been a box at least.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
What are you up to these days? Because you're sitting
in for your good mate Hamish Makai. Today he's been well,
he's kind of been sinburn because we could get you here.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
We weren't quite sure where homeless.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
And much cheaper.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
You're much cheaper.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, well he clips the ticket on this skin. I
figure he owes you something.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
Yeah, he does owe me a lot, but he has
to earn a buck somehow.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Oh well, he's I think he's doing a pretty fine job.
I'll get remains and there he's doing.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
He's doing very well.
Speaker 10 (16:44):
What I do.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
We've just built a new home up on the hills
there and just around the corner a couple of valleys
over got a small grazing block or graze, so that
keeps me out of mischief. But then I do a
few days a week for excel breeding their seamen and
embryo business.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
So what do you do there?
Speaker 8 (17:01):
I'm a gofer.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
What does that do?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Go and get the bulls in help with this? Do
that fix that? Just keep you out of trouble.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Are you getting a bit dry on the porthills?
Speaker 11 (17:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Or up the top there were still springs, so that's
fairly good.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
The old porthills have been getting a bit of moisture.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
It was North Canterbury that was sort of with that
win the other week when what do they say, seven
hundred odd center pivots lost bits and they.
Speaker 8 (17:26):
Were feeling it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
But I hear old David Carter said, thirty five meals
up at Catthill.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
That's just up the hern so they'll love it.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Let's have put on your other hat. As a former
All Black, how do you reckon? We're going to go
against England twicking them Sunday morning out of time.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
My big worry is and it's that you take their
first half.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
Last week they played well.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Got a couple of opportunists tries and then they come
out after halftime and if you look at all the
Test matches, I don't know who's saying what in the break,
but they come out for that first.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Twenty minutes half to halftime and they look confused.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Who do we do We do his suggestions first or
his I think there's too much noise. So if they
can get that, play a good first half and carry
on in the second half, we'll be right.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
The England have named a bit of a bomb squad
on the best six two split.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
We haven't.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
And also they've picked guys like George Ford in the
half back why's name I've just forgotten. Ben Humphrey might better.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Help me here.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
But they've picked aerial specialists, so our back three are
in for quite a big day at the office.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
But the old story, Jamie, even at your high level,
if you gain the ball, you retain it. Eventually you'll
score a try if you're going to kick it away
all the time. That's what I can't put up with
their box skating all the time. Keep the ball in hand,
have faith in your ball carriers and keep on, keep
on and put them under pressure because you look at that.
The reason they've got a bomb squad is their starting
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fifteen players are not good enough to play eighty minutes.
We see fellas like Cameroy guard Richie mccor always did it,
played eighty minutes eighty minutes. If you're playing well, stay
out there and do the job.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I absolutely agree with you on that one. You and
I are probably rugby dinosaurs now, Lowe and Arry. Yeah,
but I mean I'm with you. I think that the
bomb squad it's a fifty to fifty proposal at best.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Why wouldn't you keep the ball in hand?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, And if you're putting it in the air like
that and contesting it, there's a good chance someone will
be taken out. And I know they were just coming
in in my day, but really yellow cards read cards
were shockers. And you know the way the referees or
those individuals sitting up in the office watching a second
time round, the consistency is that poor Okay.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Richard low thank you very much for sitting in for
your good mate, Hamish mackay mckaye on sport for you
here on the country. Twenty nine away from one. We're
going to take a break on the other side of it.
Chris Brandolina will see if we can get some follow
up brain for the dry regions before the end of
the hour. I see Kate Cold has arrived from beef
and Land, New Zealand and one half of my farmer
panel is definitely here stew Duncan. I haven't seen George
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Dudson yet, so we've got all that to do before
the end of the hour.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Weather on the country with farmlands helping to prevent parasite
outbreaks this summer.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Back from the country.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Beautiful guy in christ Church for day two of the
Royal Show AMP Show, Chris Brandolino. I've got two minutes
flat and counting. What i want from you, my friend
from Earth Sciences, New Zealand as some follow up rain
for the dry parts of the country that got a
bit over the past day.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
What do you got for me?
Speaker 12 (20:40):
Yeah, we're going to get some rain, but not a
one Hawks Bay. They're approaching drown Jimmy, as the fartments
would know near meteorological drought conditions in central and lower
Hawks Bay, particularly eastern areas near the coast of some
really dry conditions there. Dryness is emerging on the New
Zealand Droil Index in Marlborough as well as parts of
northeastern Canterbury. So of the country are dry now in
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terms of where the rainfall is going to be over
the next couple of days. Look, we'll get some showers,
maybe some thunderstorms. There's a severe thunderstorm watch from our
friends at Metzervis for much of the eastern North Island
from tadashidy Gisbet into Hawkspace, so be mindful of some
stronger type to severe thunderstorms in that area this afternoon.
So some localized downpours, some heavy rain comes up for Fjordland,
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but otherwise we're not going to see much in the
way rain, Jimmy, outside of today over the next few days.
Next week that is when we could see the best
chance for some heavy rain for a good part of
the country, particularly eastern and upper North Island. So we'll
have to watch next week, especially second half of next week.
That could be a period of some pretty wet and
active weather, with warm weather continuing after a bit of
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coolness tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Well there you go, Chris Brendlin. I thank you so
much for your time. I do really appreciate it. Talking
about the time, what is the time? It is twenty
four away from one. Michelle Watt is as minding the
fort at Dunedin HQ and Andy McDonald's doing, as always
a wonderful job paneling the show out of Auckland.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
So let's head to the need and for the latest
and rural news.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
What the country's world news with coup cadets, New Zealand's
leading right on lawn bower bread. Visit steel Ford dot
co dot NZI for your local stockist.
Speaker 13 (22:16):
Yeah thanks Jamie. Intensive efforts are continuing on Auckland's north
shore to track down yellow leaked hornets by Securing New
Zealand have introduced additional teams this week to mesodically check
common nesting areas close to where hornets have been detected
in Glenfield and Birkdale. Since the seventeenth of October, they
have been seven confirmed queen hornets found based on collective
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specimens in the north shore. Five of these showed evidence
of nesting and all detected hornets and nests have been
safely removed. Just to reminder to keep an eye out
for those hornets. If you want to find more information
well they look like, head to mpi's website and Andy's
on the other side of Sport.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Sports on the country with AFCO business.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
Well done, yes thanks Michelle. And in Sport the assistance
on the Blackfern staff will remain in limbo until the
appointment of a new coach Alan Bunting is departing the
role after New Zealand Rugby's review of the Sides World
Cup semi final exit. A replacement to him is expected
by Christmas. Back line general Boden Barrett Is Adam and
the all Black Suspman will improve against England at twicken
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Him on Sunday. The New Zealanders have conceded nine yellow
cards in eleven TESTA season, including three against Scotland last
weekend and key we golfer Daniel Hilly tentatively holds one
of the ten USPGA Tour cards for next season earned
via European Tour performances. He's tied for sixth after the
opening round of the campaign finale in Dubai. That's sport, Jamie, Yeah,
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good on you. Andy doing a great job paneling the
show out of Auckland. Kate Ackland's up next from Beef
and Lamb New Zealand, then Air Farmer Panel, Old and
Young Ere. George Dodson's arrived, so we've got a full
dance card for the rest of the show. I just
want to get a shameless plug in and you might
Ben Humphrey, you might just just hop him there in
Kate's seat for one months. I just want to get
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a shameless plug in, Ben, because you did the hard
yards with me yesterday afternoon at the Emerson's tiny pub.
It was a bugger of a day here in christ Church.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Then, by the way, his head of Sport and Rural
for Enz and me and you and I held the
fort there and we cajoled farmers in to come and
have a machaisa with us. And what an enjoyable afternoon
and a nice dry spot to spend yesterday, wasn't it.
It was everyone was wet to the bone, but a
delicious machaisa this year, very crisp.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
And yeah, it was a good place to be in
that tiny pub, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
And Greg mensays we love him.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
In fact, we love all the people at Emerson's, especially
the godfather Richard Emerson. But he did reprimand me scolded
me almost. He said, I've been listening to you on
the radio and you talk about the Mackayser, but you
need to remember it's the Emerson's Machaiser and that's point taken. Yeah, absolutely,
we wouldn't be here without them there, and we're going
to have opportunities for you to win some of this excellent,
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excellent brew. As we head towards Christmas, we are taking
a break here on the country. It is twenty one
away from one Kate Eckland, looking very summary, I might add,
on a beautiful summer's day here in christ Church, share
of beef and lamb, and we're going to wrap it
with their farmer panels.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
You and I can both kid just fantasy.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
What I mean? It is eighteen away from one beautiful
day here in Christchurch. Born and bred Cantabrian. Oh no,
you're not actually are you?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
You married a Cantabrian, Kate Eckland.
Speaker 14 (25:33):
Yes, I'm a new Cantabrian.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You're a well, a new Cantabrian, but with a very
established farming family, the Ackland family. If you don't mind
me saying so, you're looking very summary, befitting this occasion
because it's just a beautiful day.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
You wouldn't have worn that yesterday.
Speaker 14 (25:48):
Isn't it amazing? And what a change from yesterday? I
mean yesterday it was horrendous weather, but there was a
lot of happy farmers out there. I think parts of
North Canterbury got thirty or forty mils last night, which
was very much needed.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
So you're down the road awey bit in mid cam Andrey.
How are you guys faring?
Speaker 14 (26:01):
Oh we're pretty good. We're hanging in there. We've got
ten mils. That was probably enough for us.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, okay, what's coming across your desk at Beef and
Lamb New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
What are you guys up to and what official capacity
do you have here.
Speaker 8 (26:13):
At the show?
Speaker 14 (26:14):
Look, I'm not actually here in an official capacity. I've
actually got a stand here selling World blankets. But it's
a great opportunity to talk to farmers and Look, people
are really positive at the Minister and so you know
what we're thinking about at Beef and Lambers. What's next
for the chief and beef sector. How do we drive
that next step of profitability and productivity.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I was talking to Dan Bolton, who's the chief executive
of Silver Firm Farms at the Prime Minister's breakfast this
morning and he was just saying, and he's been in
market for the last five or six weeks around the
world and he was saying just how positive things are looking,
and especially for beef. The scene's Kate Acklin to be
no end for good beef prices or am I being
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too optimistic. Bet.
Speaker 14 (26:54):
Now, look the signals are all there that we've got,
you know, at least two or three years of really
good positive of demand out there. You know, everything's coming
together around global supply and just seems to be an
insatiable demand for red meat protein.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
What about lamb? Is it going to last out as
long as as beef?
Speaker 14 (27:15):
Look, at this point, all the signals for lamb are
really positive too. And you know I was talking to
Dan as well, there's positive things coming out of China,
EU and UK are really strong markets. Again and again everybody.
We're not the only people that are seeing the decline
in cheap numbers, so that's holding up that demand. But
obviously there's always unknown things and that could happen global volatility.
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But at this point, look, it's really great. So we
just need to focus on getting the most out of
our farms.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Let me get a.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Shame because you're always kind enough to come on our
show every time we bring you up. I want to
get a shameless plug in for what you're selling here
at the show.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
What is that?
Speaker 14 (27:49):
Well, for about ten years now, we've been making world
blankets out of our Lamb's world and so I've got
the children. They're working on commission and they are not
doing very well at the minute, but I think they
have a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
So what sort of micron is your Lamb's wall that
you're making into the blanket?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (28:04):
Look, it's pretty strong. So these are That's a traditional
wall blanket, not sort of a marino. You know, we're
a good strong romney carpet walls.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Just like the knitted jerseys Mum used to make me
wear when I was a kid.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
They were itchy next to your skin.
Speaker 14 (28:17):
Oh but they look great.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
They look great and they'd last forever, admittedly, And if
you want a job done, ask a busy person.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
You're a busy person.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
You're not only flat out farming with your husband David
and mid Canterbury, your chair of Beef and Lamb New Zealand,
you've got a side gig hair at the show.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
You're also training for what there is on an Iron Man.
Speaker 14 (28:35):
Yes I did. I did sign up to do the
Iron Man and very lucky that ANSCU has sponsored me
as part of the Farmer.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Team, So good shameless plug Kate.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Should you be picking favorites in your job?
Speaker 14 (28:48):
No, look I shouldn't, but they'll be very good to me.
And look, it's a really cool initiative that they do.
And I've got a team of a dozen farmers who
are getting fish and going on this journey. And look,
it's not going to be slot and not going to
be fast. It's going to be a good day out,
I think.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
So which iron Man are you doing? You're doing Tapa.
So when does that happen again?
Speaker 14 (29:05):
Remind me it's in March.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
So I've got all some of the train.
Speaker 14 (29:08):
We're running out of days to get fit, but working
on it.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
See one of the limiting factors. Because you and I
were talking about marathon runners. Believe it or not, I
used to be one as a few years ago now.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
But for I always i'd love.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
To have a go at something I would have like
an iron Man or a triathlon, but it wasn't a
good enough swimmer.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Are you a good swimmer?
Speaker 14 (29:27):
So swimming I can do. I was an ex squad
squad swimmer when I was young, so swimming's easy. It's
the biking. I don't even own a bike yet, so
that's a bit of a worry.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, but if your legs are strong enough for running,
I reckon the Bike's the easiest discippline.
Speaker 14 (29:41):
Oh well, I hope you're right.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I hope I'm right. Where you can swim? Which is
one better than me? Kate Ackland, thank you very much.
What's the name of your blankets?
Speaker 14 (29:49):
Mount Summer Station, Mount.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Summer Station Wall blankets help the Ackland children out? It's
probably their pocket money for when they go to boarding
school or whatever?
Speaker 9 (29:58):
Is it?
Speaker 14 (29:58):
Basically?
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Okay, how are we are going to take a break
On the other side of We're going to wrap it
with the farmer.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Panel, old and Yank.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I've got an old one stew Duncan, and I've got
a young one George Dodson. So that's going to wrap
the country from a stunningly beautiful day here in Christchurch
for the Canterbury The Royal Canterbury am P Show.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Remember when we were driving.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, great, KeyWe country, Kylie Bell.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Just before I forget from Farmstrong farmers tell us that
coping with the ups and downs of farming is a
lot easy when you share the load. That's why it's
great to have a natter and get things off your chest.
Why not make time this weekend to catch up with
the mate over a coffee or a beer sounds like
us in the Emerson's tiny pub yesterday afternoon. Talking to
others is a great way to lighten the backpack, enjoy
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your weekend. And a bit of feedback coming in from
the old program director sitting into me and critiquing the
show as always never read the sports news again, Andy
was great, Well, thank you program directed for that.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Gee, I'll tell you what it's hard to get. Do
you get thrashed by?
Speaker 14 (31:13):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah? Actually, before I do, thank you, Andy, I've got
a weak line of the play before I introduce a
special guest where you go.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
The Farmer panel with the Azuzu Dmax, the Kiwi ute
built tough with truck DNA.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah. Do you get thrashed you at home?
Speaker 15 (31:28):
Absolutely all the time?
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I know, like I'm kind.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Of a bit of a dictator at work and I
roll with an iron fist and I have a food Chaine,
and I'm very dictatorial.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
But I get home, I'm like a lamb to the
slaughter most of the Jamie now talking about lambs to
the slaughter.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
You're part of the Farmer panel with you're the old
farmer relatively and George Dodson twenty twenty four, Young Farmer
of the year is the young farmer you've been in
Wellington because you're also moonlight as a local counselor in
the Manetoto region. There's two any of you bugge's still
you're not doing enough?
Speaker 15 (32:02):
Well, it's probably right and I think the discussion we
had from the ministers yesterday and local government there's going
to be a wholesale change and they suggested there's going
to be a sun army coming at us and when
we get out the other side, our pencil bey on fire.
So what that means I don't know, but I'd say
if you're in the regional council format and the way
it is now, I think.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
You Jones wants what rid of regional councils. He wants
unitary authorities. And you know, I look it down the
road from us and Dudeed and the kluth Of District Council.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
It's a very small area.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
They got a seventeen percent rates increase or something like
that cause similar you know, they should be amalgamated with
bigger authorities. That would be my idea around the country
because look how many local body councilors we've got.
Speaker 15 (32:42):
Yeah, and that's that's probably what's going to happen by
the feel of what was coming out yesterday, and you know,
who knows South of Tiger could be emerging them with
South and in very light minded places. But that's the
discussion that's been had, and yeah, there is probably too many,
but you know a lot of people want their communities
to have a say and you can't have everything run
out to Wellington and we've.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Seen that with the storms, and.
Speaker 15 (33:02):
We've seen that with Cyclone Gabrielle and all those and
the local people on the ground. Local people know what's
best in their area and governments don't always get that right,
but they're trying and they they're chucking it out there.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
So I vote for you, tou. That was quite impressive.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Hey, hell, are things going in the manny a tote?
Are you guys getting dry? Because you're traditionally aweb but
summer dry, you're farmed for it.
Speaker 15 (33:21):
We had nine inches of snow in the second week
the other day, a couple of weeks ago, and that
gave a lot of moisture. So there's been those five
and ten miles of rain dropping in. So the Minitita
is looking an absolute picture at the moment. But it
doesn't take long with the week of Northwest as we
had a hot week the other day, a hot few days.
So as long as we get these showers and I
think you know Canabary North Canary got a good shower
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yesterday and we got a weep it in this a
bit more forecast. But now we're looking at a picture
just getting rid of the last of the hoggits and
the bulls are starting to go out and by the
ai and going on.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
So just to the farm strong message, why not make
time this weekend to catch up with the mate over
a coffee or a bear.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
How's Andrew Whore?
Speaker 8 (33:59):
He's good.
Speaker 15 (34:00):
Yeah, I haven't had a bal with him for dad
too actually, but no, he's been busy in his landmarking
and you know he's good and he's had a pretty
good year with cattle and the wall things better lifts
its help those Marina guys a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Right our stew Dunkin, thanks for your time. You're out
of here.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
You're the old farmer relatively he's the young farmer. To
wrap the show, good Canterbury man, although he supports the
Southern stacks. George Dodson, George Good He at a front
up again. Are here again because we caught up same time,
same place last year.
Speaker 10 (34:25):
Yeah, that's right, Jamie. It was great to meet you
then and it's great to see you again today.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, thank you very much for what you and the
other young farmers. And I think of Emma and all
those guys, and you've got a really good sort of
collegial thing going on with former winners of the Young
Farmer of the Year and it's important that you guys
are the future leadership. And I know, just talking to
Nigel Woodhead, I think who won in twenty seventeen, he's
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doing a lot of governance work now, so there's the
next generation of leaders coming through.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Is that something you aspire to?
Speaker 10 (34:56):
Yeah, definitely interests me right, governance and I quite enjoy
public speaking that sort of thing, So that's something I'd
like to get into in the future. And it definitely
is our duty right so as Young Farmers of the Year,
we want to be at the forefront of the agricultural
industry and keep carrying the good word forward.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
I suppose.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
No, you've got a great gathering of former Young Farmers
of the Year. They've all gone on and done very
well for themselves in life. How are things on the
And I have to ask you this every time, Darfield Farm, right, yep, Darfield,
did you escape the wins?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
We got a bit.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
We only got really one hour of that really horrendous
wind a couple of weeks ago, so we escaped pretty
lightly compared to what was forecast. We got really dry
and it was looking pretty bad sort of late last week.
We kept getting that norwest hot winds through all of October,
but the start of this week we got about eighteen
meals of rain, and then yesterday as well, another twenty
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odd meals. So that's going to carry us forward for
the next few weeks beautifully.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, you couldn't have scripted it better for the farmers.
Even though it was a miserable day here yesterday. The
farmers who came into the Emerson's tiny pub to have
a bear with us, they had a big smile their face.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
You needed that rain, yep, one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
We were all stoked.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
All of cannery were starting to get quite dry, even
the irrigated spots, so you were certainly happy with it.
And the grass will be absolutely thumping for the next
few weeks.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Good on you, George Dodson.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
A young farmer on the Farmer panel along with the
old farmer stew Duncan. I just want to thank Bill Toomey,
our wonderful tech here in Christchurch, for getting us to
hear I am about accident prone technology wise, and for
being Humphrey the head of Sport and Rural for Enzi
Me for keeping me company and keeping me out of trouble,
and christ Church.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I'll catch you back in Dunton on Monday.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
Good Day, New Zealand, a good afternoon, and welcome to
the Country. The show is brought to you by brand
Wigo Country on the Country on a Friday, especially for
our first guest, Prime Minister Christopher Luxelon, who absolutely loves
country music.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Who's your hot artist at the moment, PM.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
Well, there's so many, but you know, Zach Bryan's really good.
Speaker 6 (00:41):
And we had a great performer this morning, Age singing
Strong Country Strong, which was pretty awesome. She was great
and great Kiwi kiey young person's come in loves country
music too, so I'm just part of my education member.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
I said to you had come on your show.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
Every week if we could talk an upgrade New Zealand's
understanding your country music from country and western and all
the twangy stuff into the well.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I need to get a shameless plug in for our
iHeart Country station.
Speaker 7 (01:03):
It's pretty good.
Speaker 8 (01:04):
You listen to that, Yes, I have, I have.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
I have tuned into it a few times. But us
younger kids these days we just go off our Spotify playlists,
so we don't we're not sitting in the you know,
me being it with the millennials and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know, yeah, rock and roll and slightly right the
issues of the day. You know what amuses me about
your politicians as you have people standing behind you who
officially are there just to not in the background. Today,
we've got Grant McCullum.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
He's one of our best nodders.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, Nicola Willis, not Nichola Willis, will try Nicola Griggs here,
and I'm thinking I would sooner have Nicola in the
background nodding Nicola.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
We've got Mike Butterick, we could have Miles Anderson. We
should have had a whole quartette of not us.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, they're really good. But Grant's excellent at it.
I mean he is affected that.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Very well, well, yeah, affected some political skills. As a
focus group told you that not as are effective in
the background.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
I gotten. I've got no idea. But how good is this?
Speaker 8 (02:04):
This is good?
Speaker 6 (02:04):
Like it's a classic, you know, stinking hot Canary Day
just cranking up, which is great. And I've just been
wandering around the show and it's been really awesome people
in good shape.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
So this must bring back memories for you, your christ Church
more and bred you were to come to the show
every year is a good.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
And I think I said to you earlier this morning
was that, you know, my grandmother used to work at
Burke's Catering and it was a big, big, big week
for her as well at the show and it was awesome.
So and I brought back a lot of great memories actually,
and it's I was actually even this week just you know,
great anticipation coming at you.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
It's really good.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Okay, let's look at some of the issues of the day.
And I know you hate poles. You're a bit like
Jim Bolger. You'll say, bug of the poles. But the
latest Talbot Mills poll has labor at thirty eight percent.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Do you believe that?
Speaker 6 (02:45):
I just say to you, I think when people take
a I don't comment on the poles because there's a
hell of a lot of different numbers that we you know,
and I just got to say, focused on what I've
got to do, which is sort.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
The country out.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
But you know, when you think about Hipkins and Martam
Davidson and DeBie, Now what I Pack and Raweri and
you know Chloe, And then you think about the two
new independents that are in the mix. That's going to
be hell of a government if they ever got through.
So I think that's your motivation to avoid that.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Do you think some of the reason for the uptick
in labor because there is, to be fair, if you
average all the polls out, they are creeping up awey
bit their potential coalition partners are going the other way
with just cause too, I might add, But do you
think some of it do people like, for instance, the
capital gains tax?
Speaker 6 (03:28):
No, I mean people, that's a tax on every single
business in the country, right, because if you've got to
operate out of a commercial premise, that's a cost that
you've got to pass on. That's a tax on every
key we saver account because your own businesses and they've.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Got to deal with that cost.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
But that's also a tax on a hard working tradee
who's actually decided to buy a badge, you know, or
you know, mum and dad have got one rental property
to help support them in their retirement. So you know,
I just think think the answer is a tax. Their
way is the tax your way out of it. And
what was interesting to me was there's no change to
what they're doing. They just want to go back to
what they've always done, which is spend more, tax more,
(04:01):
borrow more. And you know, we're cleaning up that ungodly
mess because they lifted spending bay eighty four percent and
put us in the hole. You know, the borrowing went
from sixty billion to one hundred and eighty billion. We
had to write an interest bill out the other day.
I know the farmers listening got a big interest bills,
but man, we had to write out nine to ten
billion dollar bill the other day. That's five to need
in hospitals that I could be building every year that
I can't because we've got debt, just the interest on
(04:23):
that debt.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So, if you're going to broaden of the tax space,
and that's a separate argument, but if you were to
accruise some money, surely the best way to spend it
on health would be to put it into the health
budget rather than give every man and his dog three
free visits to a Doctuh.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
You and I don't need a free visit, right And
so the other thing that we've done yesterday is effect
of February will be saying, if you've got regular medicines,
for example, we're going to let you have a prescription
repeat for up to twelve months, meaning you don't have
to go back to your doctor every three months and
get a new prescription.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Now, that alone.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Says two doctors visits a year, and labor won't support that.
That then frees up a hell of a lot of
doctor is to actually see people that are on their
lists and they're waiting lists. They can get into a
doctor in a much easier way. So there's just it
just doesn't make sense. And the other thing was there
was this crazy policy they had about something called a
Future funds where they were going to put all the
assets into but then that those assets generates six hundred
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million dollars of dividends and that pays for some of
your health and education anyway, So you know that the
dog don't hard and they're just not economically literate.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Those guys, I want to talk to you about asset sales.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You have indicated a keenness to fill the coffers kurd
is just some asset sales. You have got a problem.
What do you do with the problem?
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Like Winster, Well, I mean I think.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
What I'm trying to say is, you know, you got
to ask yourself the question. You know, you know farmers
have balance sheets. Everyone has a balance sheet, and the
question is have you got your cash tied up and
the best possible things? That's all I'm saying. So if
you look at something like a they say Land Corp.
You know, there's got one hundred and forty farms and
there I think they're about two point four billion dollars.
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They've brand about a two percent return. You know, if
you think about the two point four billion just stuck
into a five hundred index funded at twelve percent return?
Speaker 5 (06:03):
What is that difference at ten percent?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Are you put Parmu on the block.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
No, I'm just I'm just using that as an illustration.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Say, well, is that actually be a conversation where you
could legitimately say.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Is that better? Is that better?
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Is that cash working harder for New zealand doing something else?
Because that means we could build a hospital or a
school or a road that we can't do today because
the capital is tied up in things that aren't generating
good enough returns. So that's all I'm trying to say
is let's let's be a bit more intelligent. Let's be
a bit more strategic, more sophisticated. If you want to
have a conversation about asset recycling, let's do that. But
let's also not just go back to the old hash
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hashed up sort of political.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Like you're you're pretty much hamstrung though, because a couple
of things that you would really like to do, some
asset sales and raging, raising the age of national super
they will not happen as long as Winston's drawing breath,
and you won't can't govern without Winston.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Well, let's see, I mean, we we are we well,
we we had a.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Very differentive opinion on foreign buyer band remember as well, right,
and we actually got to a better place through having
a conversation where I think Whenson came off his position,
we came off our position and we actually got to
a good place. But I think we should make the case.
And I think, you know, you know, I think when
you look at you know, as a national party, we
feel like we've got everything we campaigned on done and
you know, being done and delivered the two things we're
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foreign by a man and lifting this retirement age of
sixty seven. I think that makes sense because people are
living in a year and a half longer every ten
years in this country that goes on. It's also the
sensible thing financially and UK, Canada, Australia all at sixty seven.
And it's also I'm looking at the demo demography of
it all and say, well, you do it in a
phased way, you do it in a sensible ways. It
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doesn't impact people today, but you'd have time to adjust
to it. We should have that kind of conversation because
otherwise we're talking again tens of billions of dollars we
don't get to spend helping Keywis get ahead.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Perhaps the final one for you, we've got Grant McCullum
nodding vigorously in the background, going he's just coming back
and coming back into shop now to do some nodding.
But I want to pay tribute if I can to
one of your ministers who I think's had the toughest
gig in the past few weeks, and that's Mark Mitchell.
Obviously the controversy around the police and also the great
work he's done because he seems to be always on
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the ground as emergency Management minister.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Yeah, he's a good personal friend of mine, but he's
also our great minister and he's done a brilliant job
because he's one of those great operational leaders and he
loves to you.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Know, you'll watch them. Will be a potential emergency.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
He's down on the West Coast before the events actually happened.
He's engaging with the local government. He's talking to the
local civil defense folk. And if you think about the
handling of say the Porthill's fire here in Canterbury, or
you think about the potential flooding event that we had
and weather event we had in Dunedin, we had two
very similar events in both those cases and each time
they were handled much better. So now he's a good
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man and he's importantly a good leader.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Prime Minister Christopher Luck and thanks as always for your time,
and enjoy the rest of the day at the christ
Chain we have fun or the.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Canterbury amp Royal Show.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
We will do you take care there we go, Prime
Minister Christopher Lux and it is a quarter past twelve.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I'm just looking for my next guest.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
Where is he.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
He's lost a bit of weight, so he's not as
easy to spot as he used to. Richard Lowe sitting
in for Hamish MacKaye on for MacKaye on Sport. So
we're going to take a break here on the country.
I see St Stu Duncan's here, so we'll be talking
to someone after the break, hopefully Richard.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Low when sid.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Welcome back to the country.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Coming to you from the Canterbury Amp Show Day two.
Yesterday was a bit of a shocker, but today is
a stunning day and the place is absolutely packed. Where
we were going to be talking to former All Black
prop and hard man Richard Lowe, who was sitting in
for his mate Hamish mckaye for MacKaye on Sport, but
he's gone missing an action. So from one great front
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rower to another. Wayne Yolo Langford, President of Federated Farmers,
very useful in the front row, I'm told Wayne.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Best welcome I've had in a long time. Dad, That
is absolutely true. All of up to small to be
in the front row. You'd be surprised of what I
can do.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, well, I mean you're old.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Your predecessor Andrew Hoggard there was a man who was
built for the front row.
Speaker 9 (10:09):
Yes, yes, I'll tell you a bit of a yarn
about that. We played a game of rugby, you know,
Feeds vs. Parliament and blah blah blah. I had him,
had andrew out on the out, on White on the wing,
had him in space, threw the ball out to him.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
What did he do? He cuts back. He was definitely
not going wide. Good work.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Okay, now that I hear through the grapevine. And there
was a lot of whispers going on this morning about
some big story breaking with Federated farmers on Mondays, something
to do with consents. Do you want to fly a kite, You.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Must have you must have your head to the ground.
You must know what's going on within the.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Let's be honest.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You feed scrammed up on me this morning and chewed
my ears.
Speaker 9 (10:48):
Hey, everyone's heard about it, this issue with consents where
they're going and the fact that it's absolutely ridiculous the
money that farmers are having to pay. And so we'll
be beginning our campaign on this next week next month,
and no doubt you have us back on the show
to talk about it more. But it is a huge
issue for farmers, not only here in Canterbury but across
the country. How do we take this money that's been
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wasted on consents with a new RMA coming and get
a roll over these consents.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
That's going to help these farmers going forward.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Well, the poster boy for Federated Farmers on this one's
a former member of Federated Farmers or spokesperson, David Clark,
and he was in the ridiculous situation on his Canterbury
arable farm of costing him fifty grand to get a
consent to farm and the easiest way for him to
get a consent was to apply to convert his arable
farm to dairy farming.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
How does that work?
Speaker 9 (11:39):
It's absolutely insanity, right, And what are we trying to achieve?
And that's why we need to go right back to
the start of here. What are we doing and where
are we going with it? And I think when you
look at the changes that they're looking to the RMA
and what they're doing there, that's what that's all about.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
And so that's why.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
We're saying, hey, let's roll these over, wait till this
new RM is in and then and then we'll get
these consents sorted from there.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
So how are things in the Tasman Nelson Bay region,
Because I know we've talked about Southland, Southwest Otargo, we've
talked about North Canterbury. They've both been hammered in recent
times by wind events. But you guys got sucker punched twice,
didn't you with storms in the winter months.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
Yeah, and it was definitely a rough time and we're
bouncing back in the still. You can still certainly see
the effects of where the floods have been, but we're
bouncing back.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Probably more of the issue was just this cold, gray,
wet weather. You know.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
I think it's a bit similar to the South on
the spring of last year. So I mean everyone's kind
of break even on milk production and where we're taking along.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
It's just we're missing a bit of the cream off
the tops.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Were you getting a bit dry up there?
Speaker 9 (12:41):
Well, we had a week with no rain and it
looked like that pavement down there on the road it
was as hard as a rock. And we got some
rain yesterday morning, as I was saiding off to Wellington,
So yeah, we'll be right.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
So what are the other big issues coming across your
desk as the president of the Federated Farmers.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
Definitely wilding pines and the peace wilding pines and peat issue.
We think we're getting somewhere with that and so I
look forward to updating on that one soon. I got
another meeting meeting and well it's not on that one
on Tuesday. So let's hope we get somewhere with that. Yeah,
we've got some messages getting getting the likes of the key.
We save a deal across the line. We were hoping
to have that one before Christmas.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Let's hope we can get that.
Speaker 9 (13:17):
But ultimately too, we're heading out on the road with
the Prime Minister. I think over the next couple of weeks. Jeez,
I'm probably dropping that one, but really too. Yeah, and
that's news, and so you'll hear a bit more about
that as we work our way into the Christmas.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, okay, hey, well, Wayne Langford, we're going to take
a break. I don't know where the hell Richard Lowe's gone.
You might have to fill in for running. What's your
sports knowledge?
Speaker 9 (13:38):
Like we just saw a young Farm of the Year
and walk past to George George.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I've got George on the run sheet. But a wee
bit later in the air he's on the farmer panel
with old Stute.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
When I say old Stu Duncan, he's my advantage.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Stu Duncan and George Dodson, a farmer panel Young and Old.
We also have Kate Ackland from Beef and Lamb. New
Zealand's going to wander along here. Chris Brandolino from niewhere.
He ain't at the show today, but we want to
catch up with him and see if we can get
some follow up brain for the dry parts of the country.
Speaker 9 (14:09):
I'm heading down to Silverfon Farms for a bit of
beef brisket. I think they've got on the menu down there,
so that's where I'm heading. My mother in law before
she comes up to me and she says, oh, how
do I sneak into silver fir And Farms to get.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Some of this beef brisket for lunch?
Speaker 9 (14:22):
I was standing there talking to Dan Bolton and he said, well,
maybe you might want to talk to me because I'm.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
The boss, right.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I am hearing unofficially that the best lunch here at
Field Days is at silver Firm Farm. So I'm got
to catch a plane as soon as I've get off
here so I might avail myself.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Okay, we'll take a break.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Have we got George Dobson Is he running around here somewhere?
We've got stew duncan Look, we're going to take a break,
try and get ourselves organized and we'll come back with
somebody on day or from day two of the Canterbury
Amp Royal Show.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Sylvy in a ho.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Mackay on sport with Farmlands protect your crops from nasties
this summer.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Well, welcome back to the country twenty six after twelve
beautiful day in christ churchs for day two of the
Canterbury Amp Show. Now this is a great honor to
have him sitting in on the show. Here is, believe
it or not, the Royal Show's Supreme Livestock Judge Richard Lowe.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
What is that job? Entail?
Speaker 8 (15:29):
Great title? Isn't it nothing? I was taking what is it? Entitle?
Speaker 7 (15:34):
That?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Entitles are after each section judge their supreme animal, which
down the cattle have done? They've done the sheep, the
meat and wall sections. I suppose I saw one out
the horse, big gray, big gray, mayor won that or golding.
I think it was one that So after a get all,
I have to somehow judge who's the supreme of all
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the supremes. It's a bit of a poison chalice, but
it'll be fun.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Well, I hear that the President of the Royal Show,
Brent Chamberlin, was a wee bit worried that you might
be open for brides.
Speaker 8 (16:06):
I am, I am just put it out there.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
All I've been offered so far is a cold steiny afterwards,
which is a bit ranked.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
Really, it should have been a box at least.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
What are you up to these days? Because you're sitting
in for your good mate Hamish Makai. Today he's been well,
he's kind of been sinburn because we could get you here.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
We weren't quite sure where homeless.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
And much cheaper.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
You're much cheaper.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, well he clips the ticket on this skin. I
figure he owes you something.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
Yeah, he does owe me a lot, but he has
to earn a buck somehow.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Oh well, he's I think he's doing a pretty fine job.
I'll get remains and there he's doing.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
He's doing very well.
Speaker 10 (16:44):
What I do.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
We've just built a new home up on the hills
there and just around the corner a couple of valleys
over got a small grazing block or graze, so that
keeps me out of mischief. But then I do a
few days a week for excel breeding their seamen and
embryo business.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
So what do you do there?
Speaker 8 (17:01):
I'm a gofer.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
What does that do?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Go and get the bulls in help with this? Do
that fix that? Just keep you out of trouble.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Are you getting a bit dry on the porthills?
Speaker 11 (17:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Or up the top there were still springs, so that's
fairly good.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
The old porthills have been getting a bit of moisture.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
It was North Canterbury that was sort of with that
win the other week when what do they say, seven
hundred odd center pivots lost bits and they.
Speaker 8 (17:26):
Were feeling it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
But I hear old David Carter said, thirty five meals
up at Catthill.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
That's just up the hern so they'll love it.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Let's have put on your other hat. As a former
All Black, how do you reckon? We're going to go
against England twicking them Sunday morning out of time.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
My big worry is and it's that you take their
first half.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
Last week they played well.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Got a couple of opportunists tries and then they come
out after halftime and if you look at all the
Test matches, I don't know who's saying what in the break,
but they come out for that first.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
Twenty minutes half to halftime and they look confused.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Who do we do We do his suggestions first or
his I think there's too much noise. So if they
can get that, play a good first half and carry
on in the second half, we'll be right.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
The England have named a bit of a bomb squad
on the best six two split.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
We haven't.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
And also they've picked guys like George Ford in the
half back why's name I've just forgotten. Ben Humphrey might better.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Help me here.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
But they've picked aerial specialists, so our back three are
in for quite a big day at the office.
Speaker 8 (18:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
But the old story, Jamie, even at your high level,
if you gain the ball, you retain it. Eventually you'll
score a try if you're going to kick it away
all the time. That's what I can't put up with
their box skating all the time. Keep the ball in hand,
have faith in your ball carriers and keep on, keep
on and put them under pressure because you look at that.
The reason they've got a bomb squad is their starting
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fifteen players are not good enough to play eighty minutes.
We see fellas like Cameroy guard Richie mccor always did it,
played eighty minutes eighty minutes. If you're playing well, stay
out there and do the job.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I absolutely agree with you on that one. You and
I are probably rugby dinosaurs now, Lowe and Arry. Yeah,
but I mean I'm with you. I think that the
bomb squad it's a fifty to fifty proposal at best.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Why wouldn't you keep the ball in hand?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, And if you're putting it in the air like
that and contesting it, there's a good chance someone will
be taken out. And I know they were just coming
in in my day, but really yellow cards read cards
were shockers. And you know the way the referees or
those individuals sitting up in the office watching a second
time round, the consistency is that poor Okay.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Richard low thank you very much for sitting in for
your good mate, Hamish mackay mckaye on sport for you
here on the country. Twenty nine away from one. We're
going to take a break on the other side of it.
Chris Brandolina will see if we can get some follow
up brain for the dry regions before the end of
the hour. I see Kate Cold has arrived from beef
and Land, New Zealand and one half of my farmer
panel is definitely here stew Duncan. I haven't seen George
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Dudson yet, so we've got all that to do before
the end of the hour.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Weather on the country with farmlands helping to prevent parasite
outbreaks this summer.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Back from the country.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Beautiful guy in christ Church for day two of the
Royal Show AMP Show, Chris Brandolino. I've got two minutes
flat and counting. What i want from you, my friend
from Earth Sciences, New Zealand as some follow up rain
for the dry parts of the country that got a
bit over the past day.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
What do you got for me?
Speaker 12 (20:40):
Yeah, we're going to get some rain, but not a
one Hawks Bay. They're approaching drown Jimmy, as the fartments
would know near meteorological drought conditions in central and lower
Hawks Bay, particularly eastern areas near the coast of some
really dry conditions there. Dryness is emerging on the New
Zealand Droil Index in Marlborough as well as parts of
northeastern Canterbury. So of the country are dry now in
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terms of where the rainfall is going to be over
the next couple of days. Look, we'll get some showers,
maybe some thunderstorms. There's a severe thunderstorm watch from our
friends at Metzervis for much of the eastern North Island
from tadashidy Gisbet into Hawkspace, so be mindful of some
stronger type to severe thunderstorms in that area this afternoon.
So some localized downpours, some heavy rain comes up for Fjordland,
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but otherwise we're not going to see much in the
way rain, Jimmy, outside of today over the next few days.
Next week that is when we could see the best
chance for some heavy rain for a good part of
the country, particularly eastern and upper North Island. So we'll
have to watch next week, especially second half of next week.
That could be a period of some pretty wet and
active weather, with warm weather continuing after a bit of
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coolness tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Well there you go, Chris Brendlin. I thank you so
much for your time. I do really appreciate it. Talking
about the time, what is the time? It is twenty
four away from one. Michelle Watt is as minding the
fort at Dunedin HQ and Andy McDonald's doing, as always
a wonderful job paneling the show out of Auckland.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
So let's head to the need and for the latest
and rural news.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
What the country's world news with coup cadets, New Zealand's
leading right on lawn bower bread. Visit steel Ford dot
co dot NZI for your local stockist.
Speaker 13 (22:16):
Yeah thanks Jamie. Intensive efforts are continuing on Auckland's north
shore to track down yellow leaked hornets by Securing New
Zealand have introduced additional teams this week to mesodically check
common nesting areas close to where hornets have been detected
in Glenfield and Birkdale. Since the seventeenth of October, they
have been seven confirmed queen hornets found based on collective
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specimens in the north shore. Five of these showed evidence
of nesting and all detected hornets and nests have been
safely removed. Just to reminder to keep an eye out
for those hornets. If you want to find more information
well they look like, head to mpi's website and Andy's
on the other side of Sport.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Sports on the country with AFCO business.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
Well done, yes thanks Michelle. And in Sport the assistance
on the Blackfern staff will remain in limbo until the
appointment of a new coach Alan Bunting is departing the
role after New Zealand Rugby's review of the Sides World
Cup semi final exit. A replacement to him is expected
by Christmas. Back line general Boden Barrett Is Adam and
the all Black Suspman will improve against England at twicken
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Him on Sunday. The New Zealanders have conceded nine yellow
cards in eleven TESTA season, including three against Scotland last
weekend and key we golfer Daniel Hilly tentatively holds one
of the ten USPGA Tour cards for next season earned
via European Tour performances. He's tied for sixth after the
opening round of the campaign finale in Dubai. That's sport, Jamie, Yeah,
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good on you. Andy doing a great job paneling the
show out of Auckland. Kate Ackland's up next from Beef
and Lamb New Zealand, then Air Farmer Panel, Old and
Young Ere. George Dodson's arrived, so we've got a full
dance card for the rest of the show. I just
want to get a shameless plug in and you might
Ben Humphrey, you might just just hop him there in
Kate's seat for one months. I just want to get
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a shameless plug in, Ben, because you did the hard
yards with me yesterday afternoon at the Emerson's tiny pub.
It was a bugger of a day here in christ Church.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Then, by the way, his head of Sport and Rural
for Enz and me and you and I held the
fort there and we cajoled farmers in to come and
have a machaisa with us. And what an enjoyable afternoon
and a nice dry spot to spend yesterday, wasn't it.
It was everyone was wet to the bone, but a
delicious machaisa this year, very crisp.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
And yeah, it was a good place to be in
that tiny pub, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
And Greg mensays we love him.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
In fact, we love all the people at Emerson's, especially
the godfather Richard Emerson. But he did reprimand me scolded
me almost. He said, I've been listening to you on
the radio and you talk about the Mackayser, but you
need to remember it's the Emerson's Machaiser and that's point taken. Yeah, absolutely,
we wouldn't be here without them there, and we're going
to have opportunities for you to win some of this excellent,
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excellent brew. As we head towards Christmas, we are taking
a break here on the country. It is twenty one
away from one Kate Eckland, looking very summary, I might add,
on a beautiful summer's day here in christ Church, share
of beef and lamb, and we're going to wrap it
with their farmer panels.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
You and I can both kid just fantasy.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
What I mean? It is eighteen away from one beautiful
day here in Christchurch. Born and bred Cantabrian. Oh no,
you're not actually are you?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
You married a Cantabrian, Kate Eckland.
Speaker 14 (25:33):
Yes, I'm a new Cantabrian.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You're a well, a new Cantabrian, but with a very
established farming family, the Ackland family. If you don't mind
me saying so, you're looking very summary, befitting this occasion
because it's just a beautiful day.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
You wouldn't have worn that yesterday.
Speaker 14 (25:48):
Isn't it amazing? And what a change from yesterday? I
mean yesterday it was horrendous weather, but there was a
lot of happy farmers out there. I think parts of
North Canterbury got thirty or forty mils last night, which
was very much needed.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
So you're down the road awey bit in mid cam Andrey.
How are you guys faring?
Speaker 14 (26:01):
Oh we're pretty good. We're hanging in there. We've got
ten mils. That was probably enough for us.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, okay, what's coming across your desk at Beef and
Lamb New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
What are you guys up to and what official capacity
do you have here.
Speaker 8 (26:13):
At the show?
Speaker 14 (26:14):
Look, I'm not actually here in an official capacity. I've
actually got a stand here selling World blankets. But it's
a great opportunity to talk to farmers and Look, people
are really positive at the Minister and so you know
what we're thinking about at Beef and Lambers. What's next
for the chief and beef sector. How do we drive
that next step of profitability and productivity.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I was talking to Dan Bolton, who's the chief executive
of Silver Firm Farms at the Prime Minister's breakfast this
morning and he was just saying, and he's been in
market for the last five or six weeks around the
world and he was saying just how positive things are looking,
and especially for beef. The scene's Kate Acklin to be
no end for good beef prices or am I being
(26:54):
too optimistic. Bet.
Speaker 14 (26:54):
Now, look the signals are all there that we've got,
you know, at least two or three years of really
good positive of demand out there. You know, everything's coming
together around global supply and just seems to be an
insatiable demand for red meat protein.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
What about lamb? Is it going to last out as
long as as beef?
Speaker 14 (27:15):
Look, at this point, all the signals for lamb are
really positive too. And you know I was talking to
Dan as well, there's positive things coming out of China,
EU and UK are really strong markets. Again and again everybody.
We're not the only people that are seeing the decline
in cheap numbers, so that's holding up that demand. But
obviously there's always unknown things and that could happen global volatility.
(27:36):
But at this point, look, it's really great. So we
just need to focus on getting the most out of
our farms.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Let me get a.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Shame because you're always kind enough to come on our
show every time we bring you up. I want to
get a shameless plug in for what you're selling here
at the show.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
What is that?
Speaker 14 (27:49):
Well, for about ten years now, we've been making world
blankets out of our Lamb's world and so I've got
the children. They're working on commission and they are not
doing very well at the minute, but I think they
have a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
So what sort of micron is your Lamb's wall that
you're making into the blanket?
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (28:04):
Look, it's pretty strong. So these are That's a traditional
wall blanket, not sort of a marino. You know, we're
a good strong romney carpet walls.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Just like the knitted jerseys Mum used to make me
wear when I was a kid.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
They were itchy next to your skin.
Speaker 14 (28:17):
Oh but they look great.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
They look great and they'd last forever, admittedly, And if
you want a job done, ask a busy person.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
You're a busy person.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
You're not only flat out farming with your husband David
and mid Canterbury, your chair of Beef and Lamb New Zealand,
you've got a side gig hair at the show.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
You're also training for what there is on an Iron Man.
Speaker 14 (28:35):
Yes I did. I did sign up to do the
Iron Man and very lucky that ANSCU has sponsored me
as part of the Farmer.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Team, So good shameless plug Kate.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Should you be picking favorites in your job?
Speaker 14 (28:48):
No, look I shouldn't, but they'll be very good to me.
And look, it's a really cool initiative that they do.
And I've got a team of a dozen farmers who
are getting fish and going on this journey. And look,
it's not going to be slot and not going to
be fast. It's going to be a good day out,
I think.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
So which iron Man are you doing? You're doing Tapa.
So when does that happen again?
Speaker 14 (29:05):
Remind me it's in March.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
So I've got all some of the train.
Speaker 14 (29:08):
We're running out of days to get fit, but working
on it.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
See one of the limiting factors. Because you and I
were talking about marathon runners. Believe it or not, I
used to be one as a few years ago now.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
But for I always i'd love.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
To have a go at something I would have like
an iron Man or a triathlon, but it wasn't a
good enough swimmer.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Are you a good swimmer?
Speaker 14 (29:27):
So swimming I can do. I was an ex squad
squad swimmer when I was young, so swimming's easy. It's
the biking. I don't even own a bike yet, so
that's a bit of a worry.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, but if your legs are strong enough for running,
I reckon the Bike's the easiest discippline.
Speaker 14 (29:41):
Oh well, I hope you're right.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
I hope I'm right. Where you can swim? Which is
one better than me? Kate Ackland, thank you very much.
What's the name of your blankets?
Speaker 14 (29:49):
Mount Summer Station, Mount.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Summer Station Wall blankets help the Ackland children out? It's
probably their pocket money for when they go to boarding
school or whatever?
Speaker 9 (29:58):
Is it?
Speaker 14 (29:58):
Basically?
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Okay, how are we are going to take a break
On the other side of We're going to wrap it
with the farmer.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Panel, old and Yank.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I've got an old one stew Duncan, and I've got
a young one George Dodson. So that's going to wrap
the country from a stunningly beautiful day here in Christchurch
for the Canterbury The Royal Canterbury am P Show.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Remember when we were driving.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah, great, KeyWe country, Kylie Bell.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Just before I forget from Farmstrong farmers tell us that
coping with the ups and downs of farming is a
lot easy when you share the load. That's why it's
great to have a natter and get things off your chest.
Why not make time this weekend to catch up with
the mate over a coffee or a beer sounds like
us in the Emerson's tiny pub yesterday afternoon. Talking to
others is a great way to lighten the backpack, enjoy
(30:55):
your weekend. And a bit of feedback coming in from
the old program director sitting into me and critiquing the
show as always never read the sports news again, Andy
was great, Well, thank you program directed for that.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Gee, I'll tell you what it's hard to get. Do
you get thrashed by?
Speaker 14 (31:13):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah? Actually, before I do, thank you, Andy, I've got
a weak line of the play before I introduce a
special guest where you go.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
The Farmer panel with the Azuzu Dmax, the Kiwi ute
built tough with truck DNA.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah. Do you get thrashed you at home?
Speaker 15 (31:28):
Absolutely all the time?
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I know, like I'm kind.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Of a bit of a dictator at work and I
roll with an iron fist and I have a food Chaine,
and I'm very dictatorial.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
But I get home, I'm like a lamb to the
slaughter most of the Jamie now talking about lambs to
the slaughter.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
You're part of the Farmer panel with you're the old
farmer relatively and George Dodson twenty twenty four, Young Farmer
of the year is the young farmer you've been in
Wellington because you're also moonlight as a local counselor in
the Manetoto region. There's two any of you bugge's still
you're not doing enough?
Speaker 15 (32:02):
Well, it's probably right and I think the discussion we
had from the ministers yesterday and local government there's going
to be a wholesale change and they suggested there's going
to be a sun army coming at us and when
we get out the other side, our pencil bey on fire.
So what that means I don't know, but I'd say
if you're in the regional council format and the way
it is now, I think.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
You Jones wants what rid of regional councils. He wants
unitary authorities. And you know, I look it down the
road from us and Dudeed and the kluth Of District Council.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
It's a very small area.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
They got a seventeen percent rates increase or something like
that cause similar you know, they should be amalgamated with
bigger authorities. That would be my idea around the country
because look how many local body councilors we've got.
Speaker 15 (32:42):
Yeah, and that's that's probably what's going to happen by
the feel of what was coming out yesterday, and you know,
who knows South of Tiger could be emerging them with
South and in very light minded places. But that's the
discussion that's been had, and yeah, there is probably too many,
but you know a lot of people want their communities
to have a say and you can't have everything run
out to Wellington and we've.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Seen that with the storms, and.
Speaker 15 (33:02):
We've seen that with Cyclone Gabrielle and all those and
the local people on the ground. Local people know what's
best in their area and governments don't always get that right,
but they're trying and they they're chucking it out there.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
So I vote for you, tou. That was quite impressive.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Hey, hell, are things going in the manny a tote?
Are you guys getting dry? Because you're traditionally aweb but
summer dry, you're farmed for it.
Speaker 15 (33:21):
We had nine inches of snow in the second week
the other day, a couple of weeks ago, and that
gave a lot of moisture. So there's been those five
and ten miles of rain dropping in. So the Minitita
is looking an absolute picture at the moment. But it
doesn't take long with the week of Northwest as we
had a hot week the other day, a hot few days.
So as long as we get these showers and I
think you know Canabary North Canary got a good shower
(33:41):
yesterday and we got a weep it in this a
bit more forecast. But now we're looking at a picture
just getting rid of the last of the hoggits and
the bulls are starting to go out and by the
ai and going on.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
So just to the farm strong message, why not make
time this weekend to catch up with the mate over
a coffee or a bear.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
How's Andrew Whore?
Speaker 8 (33:59):
He's good.
Speaker 15 (34:00):
Yeah, I haven't had a bal with him for dad
too actually, but no, he's been busy in his landmarking
and you know he's good and he's had a pretty
good year with cattle and the wall things better lifts
its help those Marina guys a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Right our stew Dunkin, thanks for your time. You're out
of here.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
You're the old farmer relatively he's the young farmer. To
wrap the show, good Canterbury man, although he supports the
Southern stacks. George Dodson, George Good He at a front
up again. Are here again because we caught up same time,
same place last year.
Speaker 10 (34:25):
Yeah, that's right, Jamie. It was great to meet you
then and it's great to see you again today.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Well, thank you very much for what you and the
other young farmers. And I think of Emma and all
those guys, and you've got a really good sort of
collegial thing going on with former winners of the Young
Farmer of the Year and it's important that you guys
are the future leadership. And I know, just talking to
Nigel Woodhead, I think who won in twenty seventeen, he's
(34:49):
doing a lot of governance work now, so there's the
next generation of leaders coming through.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Is that something you aspire to?
Speaker 10 (34:56):
Yeah, definitely interests me right, governance and I quite enjoy
public speaking that sort of thing, So that's something I'd
like to get into in the future. And it definitely
is our duty right so as Young Farmers of the Year,
we want to be at the forefront of the agricultural
industry and keep carrying the good word forward.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
I suppose.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
No, you've got a great gathering of former Young Farmers
of the Year. They've all gone on and done very
well for themselves in life. How are things on the
And I have to ask you this every time, Darfield Farm, right, yep, Darfield,
did you escape the wins?
Speaker 4 (35:25):
We got a bit.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
We only got really one hour of that really horrendous
wind a couple of weeks ago, so we escaped pretty
lightly compared to what was forecast. We got really dry
and it was looking pretty bad sort of late last week.
We kept getting that norwest hot winds through all of October,
but the start of this week we got about eighteen
meals of rain, and then yesterday as well, another twenty
(35:46):
odd meals. So that's going to carry us forward for
the next few weeks beautifully.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, you couldn't have scripted it better for the farmers.
Even though it was a miserable day here yesterday. The
farmers who came into the Emerson's tiny pub to have
a bear with us, they had a big smile their face.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
You needed that rain, yep, one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
We were all stoked.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
All of cannery were starting to get quite dry, even
the irrigated spots, so you were certainly happy with it.
And the grass will be absolutely thumping for the next
few weeks.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Good on you, George Dodson.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
A young farmer on the Farmer panel along with the
old farmer stew Duncan. I just want to thank Bill Toomey,
our wonderful tech here in Christchurch, for getting us to
hear I am about accident prone technology wise, and for
being Humphrey the head of Sport and Rural for Enzi
Me for keeping me company and keeping me out of trouble,
and christ Church.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I'll catch you back in Dunton on Monday.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
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