November 30, 2025 • 37 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to David Seymour, Te Radar, and Lindy Nelson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
She saw him carry it away by a shadow cast
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middle that Saturday night side he was called a little
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of the desperate fight and she got in mind how
to push through.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
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Speaker 4 (00:46):
Good afternoon in New Zealand. Welcome to the Country, Jamie
mackay shows, brought to you by Brent. Haven't heard this
song for ages? Okay, We're going to kick off the
show with the Deputy Prime Minister, David Seamosh. Would you
be able to use your Kiwi saver to buy a farm?
We'll ask the Deputy Prime Minister and act Party leader. Next,
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Andrew Lumsdon aka Terradar, the voice behind the FMG Young
Farmer of the Year contest, will join us. The district
finals are done and dusted. The regional finals happen in
February to April next year, and then we're off to
New Plymouth in early July for the Grand Final. We
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will preview that and see what Radar has been up to.
Honors West Auckland hobby farm. Lyndy Nelson is a genuine farmer,
a wier wrapper farmer, also the chair of Safer Farms.
She wants farmers to get home safely for Christmas. Phil
Duncan on the weather still pretty dry on the east
coast of both islands. Lar Nina is back baby, but
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what does that mean for the dry regions, We'll ask Phil.
And we're also on the case of hamishma as Special
Agricultural Trade. We might catch up with Hamish to talk
about the plight of arable farming. Big news the stories
this morning about the dairy conversions. We've apparently got a
number on them now thirty something. Rough is at thirty
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two in Canterbury. We're far from peak dairy, but it
seems that farmers are moving out of crops and into
cows lots to talk about. We'll have rural news for
you as well as sports news. It's all on the country.
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David Seymour is the Deputy Prime Minister. When he's not
doing that, he's the act party leader. I read a
story in the Herald this morning David about the government's
key we Save a farm withdrawal plan raises fares over
scheme it ability. Of course, the government wants to lift
Key We Saver contributions. What's wrong with taking some of
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that out to buy a farm.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Well, I don't see any problem with it at all.
I've always made the point that compulsory Key we Save,
a compulsory, super compulsory whatever, you have to have an
answer for where does that money come from, And it
comes from other savings and investment opportunities. If you force
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people to put money into Key we Save, or of
course that takes away money that you could have been
using to pay debts on a farm, or that you
could have been using to invest in buying a second farm.
If you're going really well, it means that people will
jump up and down and say, oh, look, there's all
this money and this fund because we forced everyone to
put their money into it. But when people do that,
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they often forget all of the other opportunities that people
gave up. And this comes back to the old lesson
by Henry Hazler in nineteen forty five. The good economist
looks at all the impacts on everyone in the long term.
The bad economist looks only at the short term impacts
on some.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I take it that acts totally in support of raising
key we saver contributions from employers and employees.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
We're in favor of what the government's done, which is
to reduce the amount of taxpayer money that is going
into the key we saver because basically, the government's been
borrowing money on the international debt markets, giving it to
people five hundred bucks a year so you can put
it back into the international debt markets and your key
we saver, which has been a crazy thing to do
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because as a retiree you just live in a country
that has more government debt. You know what I would.
But what we did is a compromise. There is say, well,
because people will be worried about this reduction, we've increased
the amount of contributions required by employers and employees. So
in so far as it's a trade off that saves
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the taxpayer and ultimately saves the next generation from more
government debt, yet we support that. But generally speaking, forcing
people to do more compulsory saving has been shown around
the world not to increase savings rates because it reduces
savings elsewhere because the money has to come from somewhere.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
When will a government, either yours or the next lot
be brave enough to take a stand on the age
of eligibility for national super It would seem to me
on the face of it, to be the quickest fix
for some of our financial woes and this problem. You
move the age of our eligibility to sixty seven over
period of time and save billions.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Well, I say this every election, and I get the
Jesus kicked out of me because people get angry and say,
you know, how dare you say that? So in terms
of bravery, as my grandfather used to say, you're either
brave or stupid. But I've definitely done one of them
every election on this issue, because I think honest's an
important value, and the honest truth is that if this
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change is not made, then it's going to be forced
upon us. And the way that will happen is there'll
be an earthquake or a pandemic, or a big flood
or perhaps Heaven forbid on this show, a biosecurity issue,
and the government of the day will find itself in
big trouble. It will go to the international debt markets
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and must say, yeah, we're not sure about you. Guys
are going to put up your interest rate because you're
borrowed enough, and then with higher interest rates, it'll be
even harder to balance the books. And guess what they'll do.
They'll say, oh, we think we've got to put up
your interest rates again. That's the spiral that South American
countries have a habit of getting into. And there's no
law that says it can't happen there now. If and
when that happens, one of the first things they'll do
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is say, right, we're putting up the age of super
not you know, at two months a year over the
next twelve years. So it's manageable and people can plan
for it. We're doing it tomorrow. That is what will happen.
A similar thing happened when we went from sixty to
sixty five in the early nineties.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
In a way, so I've.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Always been honest say, guys, you know, we have fewer children,
that means less taxpayers. We live longer, that means more
super innuisance. That mathematical reality has been confronted by countries
all over the world that are raising their ages. New
Zealand cannot keep its head in the sand. And I
know there'll be people listening saying, we're not voting for that. Guy,
But you know, I'm not going to run for office
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on a falsehood, which too many have for too long.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
This is a die in the ditch thing. For instance,
he would walk across the aisle and go into government
with labor ahead of raising the age of eligibility for
national super So until such time as he no longer
isn't a position of power, we are stuck.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Well, that may be true so far as it goes,
but here's a bigger reality. The numbers need to add
up financially. You're talking about the political numbers. I'm worried
about the financials for the long term good of our country,
and that's what I'd urged the voters who are the
truly powerful actors, and an election to consider.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Have you been surprised at how well Chippy's capital gains
tax proposal has been received?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
No, because I wasn't aware it had been well received.
Most people recognize that this country only succeeds because we
build it. And when a political party comes out and says, hey,
there's a shortcut. We'll just take money off a builder
and you don't have to do anything, you just get
it for free, there will always be a constituency for
that that's how the Greens into Party Mari and labor
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and there I say it. Sometimes New Zealand first get
into a power. However, you know, we actually want to
see a society that is successful, and in order to
do that, we need to keep the values of building
and making, not taking and destroying.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Monsieur, I'm playing devil's advocate here. But most countries around
the world do have a capital gains tax, a broader
taxpace than we have.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Well, at one point most countries had slavery, but that
wasn't a good idea, so we stopped. Just because a
lot of people do something doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Is CHIPI going to get much money out of us
capital gains tax? As capital gains a thing of the past?
Is it something that the boomers have enjoyed and the
following generations aren't going to enjoy as much. And if
he can get his capital gains tax past the post, gee,
he's already allocated a hell of a lot of spending
to the proceeds.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Well, it'll be one of those dollars that get spent
many many times in the campaign. It's a solution to everything.
I mean, it doesn't generate as much money as people think,
and that's why it will expand because they have infinite
needs and they will need to extend it to more people.
That's before you consider they'll be in a coalition with
the Greens and Tapati Mari almost certainly part of their mix,
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so that's going to put more press to expand it.
And I just say to people, if you vote for
a capital gains text because you think it's a text
that will go on other people, then shame on you
because you know sooner or later other people becomes you
and you wonder why you didn't speak up when you
had the chance.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
David Seymour, Deputy Prime Minister, Act Party Leader, thanks for
your time. We'll catch up once more before Christmas in
our final week of broadcast, and I'm just giving you
some advance warning here. You need to think of your
AG person of the Year.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Okay, yeah, can it be? It can't be a Mat Cameron?
Is that worth the rule?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
No? It can be whoever you want. It could be Mark,
it could be Mark Patterson, although you're more likely to
vote for Mark Cameron, I'm sure. But anyhow you think
on your AG person of the Year. Will chat again
in a couple of weeks. Thanks for your time.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Eighteen after twelve, Thank you, David. Yeah, who's your AG
person of the year? Out there on Radio Land at
text numbers five double O nine, I'm going to brush
the cob where off Don cars and longtime correspondent to
the Country. It's a bit of a Christmas tradition for
Don to name his AG person of the year. I'm
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trying to remember who it was last year. I'll ask
Michelle when she wanders in here. But five nine, who's
your AG person of the year? I think Myles Horror
was close to it last year. He might be in
with the shout again this year. Who knows anyhow. Up
next on the Country someone who does a great job
fronting for AGG in this country. He's the voice behind
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the FMG Young Farmer of the Year contest. His name
is TEREDO Andrew Lumston. He's also a bit of a
hobby farmer and he's got a book out and I
think he's going to try and flog a few copies
of that off good stocking filler for you as we
head into Christmas. Andrew Lumsdon, Lindy Nelson, why are a
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rapper Farmer, Chair of Safer Farms. Before the end of
the hour, Phil Duncan, La Nina is back and hamishmah
if not today tomorrow on the Country.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
It can't be leaked from Matthews hung winged wat stamp
run down at Batfoll one between to Matthew and Son.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
He is a West Auckland hobby farmer. When he's not
doing that, he's a bit of a celebrity on the
speaking circuit and he's also the voice of the FMG
Young Farmer contest. Andrew Lumston aka Radar, joins us on
the Country and Radar. All of the district finals are
done and dusted. We move into the regionals next year
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February to April and minutes off to the grond Final
July second to fourth and New Plymouth talk me through it.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Look at tatam Lucky Final and it's interesting, you know,
I'm just looking down. What have we got? We've got
seven regions, seven eighths. I'm just looking at the name
of fifty six young people, any one of whom could
end up being the twenty and twenty six c FMG
Young Farmer of the Year. Quite a few names I'm
seeing that you know have been in there before. I'm
just looking at Northern you've got Karen mccahn and Justin
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Rye Rock, You've got I think kem Clayton from why
Bot might have been in there before. And as you
go down the list all the way down to Otago Southland,
I think Tom Slee, maybe Cam Smith, they've been in
there before. You know, there'll be others as well. Look,
I've been doing it for a role now I've seen
close to one thousand competitors, I think, so look, I
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will have missed people out, but it's nice to see
those people that have been there before coming back in,
and it's nice to see a whole crop of newcomers
as well. So I think we'd kick off Otago Southond
next because we generally start where we ended and we'll
go from there.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I think of the recent young farmers that we have
on the show. So we've got Tim Danjean Emma, Paul,
George Dodson, Hugh Jackson, all outstanding young leaders and agriculture.
So you've got to be really smart to win this.
But then the onus is on you to lead the
industry and you know these people certainly are.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Yeah, look, I'm part of the competition.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Now.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
There's been a lot of conversation over the years, what
does it mean to be a farmer in the twenty twenties.
You know, you've not only got to have your skills
on the farm and your bookkeeping and your business skills
and all of that kind of thing. It is recognized
that these people go on to be leaders. So there
is a component of the competition for that. And also
I think that those people are naturally the kinds of
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people that do well in this sort of thing. There
will be winners, you know, who win and then they
head back to the farm and do their things. And
there are people who haven't won that also become very
good leaders from this. But I think that's the nature
of the competitors. And you certainly, you know, if you
list at those people they over the last of you know,
what are the last four or five years of winning,
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you know, they standout individuals.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Absolutely. Have they given up on the experiment of running
district and regional finals on the same day or same.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Weekend, Yes, they had.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
We had a crack at it for a couple of years.
There were certainly a lot of pros there are certainly
a lot of cons the conversation we've had, I guess
with the contest committee and they've gone back to having
those regionals, And you know, I like it in a
way because Young Farmers were set up as an organization
to bring people through. So you've got them being able
to organize a district before they head into the heady
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world of organizing a regional and certainly before they go
into too organizing a grand final. It just gives them
a chance to see what works and what doesn't work
within their own particular region. The other thing it does
is it gives it another day for people to get together.
You know, Young Farmers will set up to bring people,
you know, put people are basically in the same paddock,
in the same room, and this is just another chance
of doing it. Just a touch base with everybody. Sure
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everybody's doing well, but I think still open for what
have we got. We've still got calls out for the
junior young farmer, so that's your high school kids tends
too and the agri kids. I think registrations are still
open for them as well. So there's another swaye of
young people who'll be competing.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Andrew Lumsden with us Radar, the voice of the FMG
Young Farmer Contest. When I was watching the All Blacks
in Perth, my off side of Hamish McKay had a
yarn to you about your newly released book. It's called
Kiwi Country, Rural and Z and one hundred Objects. Now
is it beating the two books on Jacinda on the
and the best seller Leustradar? Because is it a good
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stocking filler for Christmas?
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Look, it's the perfect stocking filler for Christmas. Actually we
designed it. We call it the ultimate toilet book. You
know a toilet book when you visit someone's house and
it's a great book and you read it on the toilet.
So it's been going great guns. I've sold a swag
myself at functions and things, and i'll tell you what
was nice. We got every one of the objects illustrated,
and I was at Parliament for a few days to me. Recently,
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I gave it to Barbara Krueger and immediately people sit around,
they started pointing at various objects on the cover and
they started telling their stories about things. So it's a
really nice one. And I'll tell you what if you
want to be that person that can bore people with
an it goo to tales of rural things the day
after Christmas. It's the book for you.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I love boring people. I do it for a living writer.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Look i'll tell you what. Next time you've got someone on,
you'll be able to think. Oh wait too, I know
a story about that. You'll be able to go to
the book. We're actually young farmers from in there and
through the medium of Muldoon's Lamb, which I'm steering it
right now on my bookshelf. The lamb given to Sir
Robert Muldoon by the Young Farmer's Club back in nineteen
seventy six. It was in christ Church when it was
the scaur up Young Farmer of the Year. Laid my
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hands on that, and that's the object that sort of
explains that whole concept of young farmers and aspirations. To
guy that was organized. It wanted Prince Charles to do it,
and now he said, look, we will never know if
we can do it if we don't ask. And that's
the kind of attitude that has got farming where it
is today.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Oh it could have been worse. They could have asked
Prince Andrew and that wouldn't have gone down well, that
story wouldn't have ended well.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Would have had to sanitize my lamb.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Well, he's full time making a lamb shop of himself
talking about lamb chops. I know you're a west Auckland
hobby farmer ten because no doubt you run a few ewes,
have a few lambs. You know, we lamb on the
Christmas dinner table. Is that how it works? Radar?
Speaker 7 (18:26):
I do look across the field at my neighbor's lambs,
but currently I'm grazing two shire horses and a knocked
out thorough bread that a young woman owns, and they're
not great for the pasture and they're certainly not great
for my fencers. So I'm in the midst of doing
that thing that the hobby farmers do when they need
to do some fencing is buying all the equipment often,
you know, and you're try You don't want to get
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the expensive stuff because you don't need it, but you
don't want to get the cheap stuff because it's going
to fall apart. So I'm in that zone at the moment,
and then I've got about eight hundred meters of fencing
to do over the next couple of weeks, and I've
got my postthole border which I've had for a while
of dig some holes in the clay because it's a
seasonal thing. If it's too wet in the White Tarket East,
you can't dig up a hole in the mud. And
if it's too dry, you don't get your post I
orra in.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Have you got a spinning Jenny.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I have got a spinning Jenny. It's about to be
delivered today. I got one with a little bit of
a break on it, and we'll see what one hundred
dollars buys in the world of spinning Jenny's. You know
that can end in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
You know that can end in tears if you walk
out too quickly without the break on your spinning Jenny.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Oh look, there's a lot of things I'm going to learn.
And I tell you, what would we go into next
year for young farmer? And when I'm down at Mystery
Creek the field does, and I'm watching all those the
fencing competition down there. I'm going to have an entirely
new respect for them. But here's the great thing, Jamie.
We live in a world now where if you don't
have that ability to know a thing. You can go
online and you can look on YouTube, and we've got
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some very good practitioners of things like fencing, and I'll
tell you what their little lessons on your terminal knots
and straining wire and all of that brilliant. How I
translate that from the screen to the paddock Again, we'll
have a conversation a little while.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I'll let you know, well, you need to get a
lesson from some of those guys down the field days
or the rural games. They're brilliant, brilliant fences. Okay, I
got to go. I might have mixed my metaphors with
Prince Andrew and the lamb chop. I think pork chop
is what I was looking for.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Wasn't Look, he's in the awful pit regardless of what
cutt he is the awful.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Pure Yeah, okay. The book. The book is called Kiwi Country,
Rural New Zealand and one hundred objects, A great toilet book,
ideal stocking filler. And you could not just send her
off the best sellers list. And that's her own book
and the unauthorized.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Biography with the support of all those good rural folks.
They're not so rural folks. We certainly can.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
You've got on your radar. Imagine marketing your book as
a toilet book. Yeah, Hamish Mackay chatted to him when
I was in Perth. So I will endeavor to get
my hands on a couple of copies of that, got
to have a read of it myself, and then we'll
give you an opportunity to win one. It will be
an ideal stocking filler for you. It was interesting, wasn't
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it When he was talking about the young farmers presenting
Rob Muldoon with a lamb in nineteen seventy six, and
being a student of history, I thought, I wonder who
the young Farmer of the Year was in nineteen seventy six,
and it was a guy called John Mitherl. Hello John,
if you're listening, I don't know where you're from, but
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you wandered in nineteen seventy six. And then I'm looking
at nineteen seventy five and a guy by the name
of Paul Jarman was the Young Farmer of the Year.
And I'd talked about Tim Dangel and Emma Paul and
George Dodson and of course Hugh Jackson, but go back
one year before that, twenty twenty one, and it was
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Jake Jarmin. I wonder if Jake's any relation to Paul.
Let me know on the text line five nine. If
you know, and if you know who the twenty twenty
Young Farmer of the Year was, I will give you
one million dollars cash. That's because there wasn't one because
of COVID. So James Robertson, who was the twenty nineteen
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Young Farmer of the Year, holds the unique position certainly
as far as I can see, as being the only
man or person to be the Young Farmer of the
Year for two years in a row. Useless trivia for you.
We will take a break with Michelle's busy trying to
find out who our ag Person of the Year was
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last year. Got so many to remember, We'll tell us
who yours is on the text line five double nine.
A few early votes. And for Jane Smith, believe it
or not, she has a bit of a poster girl
for certain people and farming. Anyhow, We're on News and
Sports News next Lindy Nelson from Safer Farms, Wira app
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There some of your feedback coming in. I'm sorry, it's
sad to hear this. John Metherrell. We were talking about
John as the nineteen seventy six Young Farmer of the Year.
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A texta says hello, Jamie. John Metherrill died a few
years ago. He lived in Bellcluther. What a great legacy
being the young farmer of their someone else's texted in
saying thirty nine meals of rain in Tikawiti in the
last twenty four hours. I think that would be welcome,
wouldn't it very dry on the east coast. We're going
to go there shortly with war Wrappa farmer Lindy Nelson
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and Jamie. Can you give me the name of the book, um,
if it's on my note somewhere which i've lost, or
I'll find the name. I'll find the name of the
radars book and remember, we'll give you an opportunity to
win a couple of them. Here's Michelle with Rural News
and who the ag person was last year.
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So if I had a drum roll, Michelle on the
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Speaker 7 (25:30):
Who was it?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Was it Miles Horror or Todd McClay.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Now I thought it was Myles Horror and I went
into some deep big diving because then I started seeking
guessing my answer and I found out actually it was
Todd McClay last year, but Myles Horror and Wayne Langford
bought both in the top three.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
All right, so there you go. We're gonna have some
fun and games with the agg person of the Year
towards the end of the year. But what's in rural
news and Rural News?
Speaker 8 (25:54):
New Zealand Pork Chief executive Brink Plaice believes the country
should be concerned about Spain's confirmed cases of African swine fever.
Spain has confirmed that two wild bars found dead near
Barcelona tested positive for the virus. Among other countries, the
United Kingdom quickly moved to temporarily ban imports from the country.
The Ministry for Primary Industries was monitoring the situation at
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Spain and said New Zealand would not accept any port
from that region of the country. You can find more
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and long serving Football Ferns captain Annalie Longo has an
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The one hundred and forty three match veteran will bow
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Australia in Adelaide. So there you go. Send you Texan
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on five double nine. Let us know who your ag
person of the eras up next, someone who makes a
really good contribution to agg and the primary sector in
this country. Lindy Nelson. She is the chair of Safer Farms.
She's also the founder and trustee i think still the
trustee of the Agriwomen's Development Trust and also a Wira
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rapper farmer. And I've got some other texts coming in.
I'll read those and then we'll come back to you.
Lindy Nelson next, thanks to explain. Lyndy Nelson is a
Wira rapper farmer. She's also the chair of Safer Farms.
On the day of the big win Thursday, the twenty
third of October, she sent me a text and she said,
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let's not have the headline next week worker killed while
shifting stock and Lindy, that was part of the industry
message for farmers to a get out of the wind
and b when it came to chopping up the trees,
let the experts do it. We were very worried about springback.
As far as I'm aware, there have been no serious
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injuries or fatalities around the tidy up of the storm.
Good afternoon, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Good afternoon, Jamie I think the same thing, and as
a really good example of all of us recognizing, hey,
the real potential here and to stop Paul's plan, share
that skill widely and just go, let's approach this differently.
And yeah, we did it.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Now I've got a text from one of your PR
people who does an excellent job of badgering me on
behalf of Safer Farms, and he said, we're heading into
the peak season for injuries and fatalities. That's a rather
in command, isn't it. It is?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And so we recognize this and we're urging farmers to
plan around this. I mean, if what I think of
the last few years, Jamie, we had quad bite deaths,
we had contractors killed coming home late at night, where
kids on farm that died, And so this is farm
injuries and fatality spike over the summer months. And so
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what we're urging farmers same thing as we did around
that wind pause, Build those stop and think moments into
your day. Plan it, share that plan with your wife,
your team, set the job up right, and a little
urge from me, Jamie, you know, farmers are getting a
little bit more income this year. Maybe the Christmas present
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for yourself and your team is a bit of an
investment in some safety equipment.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
Like what.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Crush protection would be fantastic because certainly last year when
we did that deep dive into what is preventing farmers
from fitting crash protection on their quad bikes, cost was
an absolute barrier. And so there's one thing that we
could take control of. Would be great to see good inductions,
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you know those there's always an antidote to a bad choice, Jamie,
isn't there. And we're sort of urging farmers to really
recognize this is a pressure time of year. How do
we go about getting fuld safely so we all can
sit around the Christmas table.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
But Lundy to find a positive picture or light on
this one. We are getting better.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
We are getting better, and we have seen farmers stepping
up to that, Jamie, investing in good safety equipment, better
inductions for their staff. We are getting better, but it's
those little bit you know, may be seeing the time
we totally get it right, Jamie. You know, we kind
of I think we're bad at health and safety, but
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we're not. Ninety percent of the time we get it right,
but we need built in bits for when things go wrong.
We need to be able to fail safely.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Heaven help us. We even had a health and safety
plan for our southern storm shout last week, Lundy, what
could possibly go wrong there?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
And everyone got home safely, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yes they did, I'm pleased to say. And that's because
we had a health and safety plan. Go, you're a
wira app a farmer. I'm going to ask you about
the dry But just before we do that, we were
chatting about the Golden Shares because I put a plea
out to someone to put me up for the weekend
and I've had some wonderful office including from you too,
are Lindy wonderful. But we were talking about health and
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safety and how the sharing industry is so much better
than it used to be because there's an industry that's
fraught with danger, back injuries, etc.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Absolutely, and those guys and ladies have recignized it. They
get me so fit for that sharing season. They are athletes,
so high performance athletes in the sharing sheds pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Absolutely, they're not as cavalier as they used to be.
In the old days. It was a work hard, drink hard,
play hard game.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yep, it was, but absolutely brought that culture of care
into their sharing teams, they look after them, so they
look after one another and they plan actually to get
home safely at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Hey, how big a deal for the wire rapper is
the Golden Share is going to be this year early
March or next year twenty twenty six early March, because
you've got the World Sharing Champs as well.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Isn't that amazing that in a time where wall has
actually not traditionally been doing so well, we've had a
listener that we actually have events like this and we
have people who handle our will share it, present it,
get it out of our sheds. It's pretty phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah, really looking forward to that one. And I'm hoping
a key we can take home the World Sharing Champs.
And as I mentioned you are a wire rapper farmer,
and Eka Tahuna one of my favorite golf courses in
the country, Ikadhna. It's a lovely little town regarded as
kind of being summer safe even though the wire a
rapper region. And I'm looking at the Aniwa or Earth
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Sciences n Z drought Index map and the east coast
of both islands are starting to getting to get dry.
How are you guys hanging in.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You know, we're actually good. We've had some rain. We've
got some more forecast on Wednesday. We're looking pretty good.
But we can see around us, you know, a south
wire rapper along that coast. We came down from the
Hawk's Bay in the weekend and yeah, it's looking pretty dry.
Some crops there that you know, have failed to spring
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up and do their thing.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Lindy Nelson's share of Safer Farms. I'm remembered do you
remember that old TV program? I'm trying to remember the
cop program from the eighties Street Blues? Do you remember that?
My age, Jamie, But I'll take that as yes. And
what did the sergeant used to say, Hey, be careful
out there or something when he sent everyone out. So
that's the message to the farmers out there, because I
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know it is a very stressful time, very long hours.
Just be careful out there and get home for Christmas.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Thanks Jamie, Thank you, Lindy.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
It is eleven away from one here on the country.
I'm going to look up who said that? Was it
Frank Farrillo or the serge? I can't remember anyhow, we
are going to take a break. We've got Phil Duncan
and your feedback to wrap the show.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
It's nun.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Whatever she saw him, Candle Shadow becas on Worming and
Carndle Shadow last a little that Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Welcome back to the country. Sorry, some of you have
experienced a weave at a dead air. We're trying to
work out what happened there. But anyhow we're back and
I'm just waiting to get Phil Duncan online for Liz
and Wanaka. She wanted to know what the book was.
The book is called Kiwi Country, Rural New Zealand and
one hundred Objects from Radar. Look, we're just going to
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try and resink ourselves and come back with Phil Duncan.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
It can't be leaked from Matthew and so you old wind.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Watch them run down a platform one between the.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Matthew and son. Whatever done your dungeon? A dungeon be
working the Hoday, there's the bad men and break and
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that's all you teak for a com.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Okay, Sorry for all the technical difficulties not operator era
beyond our control. We will get Phil Duncan tomorrow because
I've run out of time to chat to them. Poor
old Phil's waiting on hold there. We'll get them on tomorrow.
Also Hamas shma as Special Agricultural Trade Envoy on the
dairy conversions. Thirty two is the number in Canterbury, which
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is quite sizable, but we're a long way off peak Elk.
And also Chippy precipitates on the show tomorrow, looking forward
to that one. That is us out of here. I've
even run out of Cat Stevens. It's just one of
those days at the office. Michelle's shaking her head. We
will catch you back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
She saw him carry it away by a shadow cast
on Worry and Morning, carrying away light shadow last a
middle that Saturday night side he was called a little
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of the desperate fight and she got in mind how
to push through.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Tes.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Good afternoon in New Zealand. Welcome to the Country, Jamie
mackay shows, brought to you by Brent. Haven't heard this
song for ages? Okay, We're going to kick off the
show with the Deputy Prime Minister, David Seamosh. Would you
be able to use your Kiwi saver to buy a farm?
We'll ask the Deputy Prime Minister and act Party leader. Next,
(01:09):
Andrew Lumsdon aka Terradar, the voice behind the FMG Young
Farmer of the Year contest, will join us. The district
finals are done and dusted. The regional finals happen in
February to April next year, and then we're off to
New Plymouth in early July for the Grand Final. We
(01:30):
will preview that and see what Radar has been up to.
Honors West Auckland hobby farm. Lyndy Nelson is a genuine farmer,
a wier wrapper farmer, also the chair of Safer Farms.
She wants farmers to get home safely for Christmas. Phil
Duncan on the weather still pretty dry on the east
coast of both islands. Lar Nina is back baby, but
(01:52):
what does that mean for the dry regions, We'll ask Phil.
And we're also on the case of hamishma as Special
Agricultural Trade. We might catch up with Hamish to talk
about the plight of arable farming. Big news the stories
this morning about the dairy conversions. We've apparently got a
number on them now thirty something. Rough is at thirty
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two in Canterbury. We're far from peak dairy, but it
seems that farmers are moving out of crops and into
cows lots to talk about. We'll have rural news for
you as well as sports news. It's all on the country.
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David Seymour is the Deputy Prime Minister. When he's not
doing that, he's the act party leader. I read a
story in the Herald this morning David about the government's
key we Save a farm withdrawal plan raises fares over
scheme it ability. Of course, the government wants to lift
Key We Saver contributions. What's wrong with taking some of
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that out to buy a farm.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Well, I don't see any problem with it at all.
I've always made the point that compulsory Key we Save,
a compulsory, super compulsory whatever, you have to have an
answer for where does that money come from, And it
comes from other savings and investment opportunities. If you force
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people to put money into Key we Save, or of
course that takes away money that you could have been
using to pay debts on a farm, or that you
could have been using to invest in buying a second farm.
If you're going really well, it means that people will
jump up and down and say, oh, look, there's all
this money and this fund because we forced everyone to
put their money into it. But when people do that,
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they often forget all of the other opportunities that people
gave up. And this comes back to the old lesson
by Henry Hazler in nineteen forty five. The good economist
looks at all the impacts on everyone in the long term.
The bad economist looks only at the short term impacts
on some.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I take it that acts totally in support of raising
key we saver contributions from employers and employees.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
We're in favor of what the government's done, which is
to reduce the amount of taxpayer money that is going
into the key we saver because basically, the government's been
borrowing money on the international debt markets, giving it to
people five hundred bucks a year so you can put
it back into the international debt markets and your key
we saver, which has been a crazy thing to do
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because as a retiree you just live in a country
that has more government debt. You know what I would.
But what we did is a compromise. There is say, well,
because people will be worried about this reduction, we've increased
the amount of contributions required by employers and employees. So
in so far as it's a trade off that saves
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the taxpayer and ultimately saves the next generation from more
government debt, yet we support that. But generally speaking, forcing
people to do more compulsory saving has been shown around
the world not to increase savings rates because it reduces
savings elsewhere because the money has to come from somewhere.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
When will a government, either yours or the next lot
be brave enough to take a stand on the age
of eligibility for national super It would seem to me
on the face of it, to be the quickest fix
for some of our financial woes and this problem. You
move the age of our eligibility to sixty seven over
period of time and save billions.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Well, I say this every election, and I get the
Jesus kicked out of me because people get angry and say,
you know, how dare you say that? So in terms
of bravery, as my grandfather used to say, you're either
brave or stupid. But I've definitely done one of them
every election on this issue, because I think honest's an
important value, and the honest truth is that if this
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change is not made, then it's going to be forced
upon us. And the way that will happen is there'll
be an earthquake or a pandemic, or a big flood
or perhaps Heaven forbid on this show, a biosecurity issue,
and the government of the day will find itself in
big trouble. It will go to the international debt markets
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and must say, yeah, we're not sure about you. Guys
are going to put up your interest rate because you're
borrowed enough, and then with higher interest rates, it'll be
even harder to balance the books. And guess what they'll do.
They'll say, oh, we think we've got to put up
your interest rates again. That's the spiral that South American
countries have a habit of getting into. And there's no
law that says it can't happen there now. If and
when that happens, one of the first things they'll do
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is say, right, we're putting up the age of super
not you know, at two months a year over the
next twelve years. So it's manageable and people can plan
for it. We're doing it tomorrow. That is what will happen.
A similar thing happened when we went from sixty to
sixty five in the early nineties.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
In a way, so I've.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Always been honest say, guys, you know, we have fewer children,
that means less taxpayers. We live longer, that means more
super innuisance. That mathematical reality has been confronted by countries
all over the world that are raising their ages. New
Zealand cannot keep its head in the sand. And I
know there'll be people listening saying, we're not voting for that. Guy,
But you know, I'm not going to run for office
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on a falsehood, which too many have for too long.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
This is a die in the ditch thing. For instance,
he would walk across the aisle and go into government
with labor ahead of raising the age of eligibility for
national super So until such time as he no longer
isn't a position of power, we are stuck.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Well, that may be true so far as it goes,
but here's a bigger reality. The numbers need to add
up financially. You're talking about the political numbers. I'm worried
about the financials for the long term good of our country,
and that's what I'd urged the voters who are the
truly powerful actors, and an election to consider.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Have you been surprised at how well Chippy's capital gains
tax proposal has been received?
Speaker 5 (08:15):
No, because I wasn't aware it had been well received.
Most people recognize that this country only succeeds because we
build it. And when a political party comes out and says, hey,
there's a shortcut. We'll just take money off a builder
and you don't have to do anything, you just get
it for free, there will always be a constituency for
that that's how the Greens into Party Mari and labor
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and there I say it. Sometimes New Zealand first get
into a power. However, you know, we actually want to
see a society that is successful, and in order to
do that, we need to keep the values of building
and making, not taking and destroying.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Monsieur, I'm playing devil's advocate here. But most countries around
the world do have a capital gains tax, a broader
taxpace than we have.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Well, at one point most countries had slavery, but that
wasn't a good idea, so we stopped. Just because a
lot of people do something doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Is CHIPI going to get much money out of us
capital gains tax? As capital gains a thing of the past?
Is it something that the boomers have enjoyed and the
following generations aren't going to enjoy as much. And if
he can get his capital gains tax past the post, gee,
he's already allocated a hell of a lot of spending
to the proceeds.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Well, it'll be one of those dollars that get spent
many many times in the campaign. It's a solution to everything.
I mean, it doesn't generate as much money as people think,
and that's why it will expand because they have infinite
needs and they will need to extend it to more people.
That's before you consider they'll be in a coalition with
the Greens and Tapati Mari almost certainly part of their mix,
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so that's going to put more press to expand it.
And I just say to people, if you vote for
a capital gains text because you think it's a text
that will go on other people, then shame on you
because you know sooner or later other people becomes you
and you wonder why you didn't speak up when you
had the chance.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
David Seymour, Deputy Prime Minister, Act Party Leader, thanks for
your time. We'll catch up once more before Christmas in
our final week of broadcast, and I'm just giving you
some advance warning here. You need to think of your
AG person of the Year.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Okay, yeah, can it be? It can't be a Mat Cameron?
Is that worth the rule?
Speaker 4 (10:34):
No? It can be whoever you want. It could be Mark,
it could be Mark Patterson, although you're more likely to
vote for Mark Cameron, I'm sure. But anyhow you think
on your AG person of the Year. Will chat again
in a couple of weeks. Thanks for your time.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Eighteen after twelve, Thank you, David. Yeah, who's your AG
person of the year? Out there on Radio Land at
text numbers five double O nine, I'm going to brush
the cob where off Don cars and longtime correspondent to
the Country. It's a bit of a Christmas tradition for
Don to name his AG person of the year. I'm
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trying to remember who it was last year. I'll ask
Michelle when she wanders in here. But five nine, who's
your AG person of the year? I think Myles Horror
was close to it last year. He might be in
with the shout again this year. Who knows anyhow. Up
next on the Country someone who does a great job
fronting for AGG in this country. He's the voice behind
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the FMG Young Farmer of the Year contest. His name
is TEREDO Andrew Lumston. He's also a bit of a
hobby farmer and he's got a book out and I
think he's going to try and flog a few copies
of that off good stocking filler for you as we
head into Christmas. Andrew Lumsdon, Lindy Nelson, why are a
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rapper Farmer, Chair of Safer Farms. Before the end of
the hour, Phil Duncan, La Nina is back and hamishmah
if not today tomorrow on the Country.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
It can't be leaked from Matthews hung winged wat stamp
run down at Batfoll one between to Matthew and Son.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
He is a West Auckland hobby farmer. When he's not
doing that, he's a bit of a celebrity on the
speaking circuit and he's also the voice of the FMG
Young Farmer contest. Andrew Lumston aka Radar, joins us on
the Country and Radar. All of the district finals are
done and dusted. We move into the regionals next year
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February to April and minutes off to the grond Final
July second to fourth and New Plymouth talk me through it.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Look at tatam Lucky Final and it's interesting, you know,
I'm just looking down. What have we got? We've got
seven regions, seven eighths. I'm just looking at the name
of fifty six young people, any one of whom could
end up being the twenty and twenty six c FMG
Young Farmer of the Year. Quite a few names I'm
seeing that you know have been in there before. I'm
just looking at Northern you've got Karen mccahn and Justin
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Rye Rock, You've got I think kem Clayton from why
Bot might have been in there before. And as you
go down the list all the way down to Otago Southland,
I think Tom Slee, maybe Cam Smith, they've been in
there before. You know, there'll be others as well. Look,
I've been doing it for a role now I've seen
close to one thousand competitors, I think, so look, I
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will have missed people out, but it's nice to see
those people that have been there before coming back in,
and it's nice to see a whole crop of newcomers
as well. So I think we'd kick off Otago Southond
next because we generally start where we ended and we'll
go from there.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I think of the recent young farmers that we have
on the show. So we've got Tim Danjean Emma, Paul,
George Dodson, Hugh Jackson, all outstanding young leaders and agriculture.
So you've got to be really smart to win this.
But then the onus is on you to lead the
industry and you know these people certainly are.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Yeah, look, I'm part of the competition.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Now.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
There's been a lot of conversation over the years, what
does it mean to be a farmer in the twenty twenties.
You know, you've not only got to have your skills
on the farm and your bookkeeping and your business skills
and all of that kind of thing. It is recognized
that these people go on to be leaders. So there
is a component of the competition for that. And also
I think that those people are naturally the kinds of
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people that do well in this sort of thing. There
will be winners, you know, who win and then they
head back to the farm and do their things. And
there are people who haven't won that also become very
good leaders from this. But I think that's the nature
of the competitors. And you certainly, you know, if you
list at those people they over the last of you know,
what are the last four or five years of winning,
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you know, they standout individuals.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Absolutely. Have they given up on the experiment of running
district and regional finals on the same day or same.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Weekend, Yes, they had.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
We had a crack at it for a couple of years.
There were certainly a lot of pros there are certainly
a lot of cons the conversation we've had, I guess
with the contest committee and they've gone back to having
those regionals, And you know, I like it in a
way because Young Farmers were set up as an organization
to bring people through. So you've got them being able
to organize a district before they head into the heady
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world of organizing a regional and certainly before they go
into too organizing a grand final. It just gives them
a chance to see what works and what doesn't work
within their own particular region. The other thing it does
is it gives it another day for people to get together.
You know, Young Farmers will set up to bring people,
you know, put people are basically in the same paddock,
in the same room, and this is just another chance
of doing it. Just a touch base with everybody. Sure
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everybody's doing well, but I think still open for what
have we got. We've still got calls out for the
junior young farmer, so that's your high school kids tends
too and the agri kids. I think registrations are still
open for them as well. So there's another swaye of
young people who'll be competing.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Andrew Lumsden with us Radar, the voice of the FMG
Young Farmer Contest. When I was watching the All Blacks
in Perth, my off side of Hamish McKay had a
yarn to you about your newly released book. It's called
Kiwi Country, Rural and Z and one hundred Objects. Now
is it beating the two books on Jacinda on the
and the best seller Leustradar? Because is it a good
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stocking filler for Christmas?
Speaker 7 (16:40):
Look, it's the perfect stocking filler for Christmas. Actually we
designed it. We call it the ultimate toilet book. You
know a toilet book when you visit someone's house and
it's a great book and you read it on the toilet.
So it's been going great guns. I've sold a swag
myself at functions and things, and i'll tell you what
was nice. We got every one of the objects illustrated,
and I was at Parliament for a few days to me. Recently,
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I gave it to Barbara Krueger and immediately people sit around,
they started pointing at various objects on the cover and
they started telling their stories about things. So it's a
really nice one. And I'll tell you what if you
want to be that person that can bore people with
an it goo to tales of rural things the day
after Christmas. It's the book for you.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
I love boring people. I do it for a living writer.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Look i'll tell you what. Next time you've got someone on,
you'll be able to think. Oh wait too, I know
a story about that. You'll be able to go to
the book. We're actually young farmers from in there and
through the medium of Muldoon's Lamb, which I'm steering it
right now on my bookshelf. The lamb given to Sir
Robert Muldoon by the Young Farmer's Club back in nineteen
seventy six. It was in christ Church when it was
the scaur up Young Farmer of the Year. Laid my
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hands on that, and that's the object that sort of
explains that whole concept of young farmers and aspirations. To
guy that was organized. It wanted Prince Charles to do it,
and now he said, look, we will never know if
we can do it if we don't ask. And that's
the kind of attitude that has got farming where it
is today.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Oh it could have been worse. They could have asked
Prince Andrew and that wouldn't have gone down well, that
story wouldn't have ended well.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Would have had to sanitize my lamb.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Well, he's full time making a lamb shop of himself
talking about lamb chops. I know you're a west Auckland
hobby farmer ten because no doubt you run a few ewes,
have a few lambs. You know, we lamb on the
Christmas dinner table. Is that how it works? Radar?
Speaker 7 (18:26):
I do look across the field at my neighbor's lambs,
but currently I'm grazing two shire horses and a knocked
out thorough bread that a young woman owns, and they're
not great for the pasture and they're certainly not great
for my fencers. So I'm in the midst of doing
that thing that the hobby farmers do when they need
to do some fencing is buying all the equipment often,
you know, and you're try You don't want to get
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the expensive stuff because you don't need it, but you
don't want to get the cheap stuff because it's going
to fall apart. So I'm in that zone at the moment,
and then I've got about eight hundred meters of fencing
to do over the next couple of weeks, and I've
got my postthole border which I've had for a while
of dig some holes in the clay because it's a
seasonal thing. If it's too wet in the White Tarket East,
you can't dig up a hole in the mud. And
if it's too dry, you don't get your post I
orra in.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Have you got a spinning Jenny.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I have got a spinning Jenny. It's about to be
delivered today. I got one with a little bit of
a break on it, and we'll see what one hundred
dollars buys in the world of spinning Jenny's. You know
that can end in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
You know that can end in tears if you walk
out too quickly without the break on your spinning Jenny.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Oh look, there's a lot of things I'm going to learn.
And I tell you, what would we go into next
year for young farmer? And when I'm down at Mystery
Creek the field does, and I'm watching all those the
fencing competition down there. I'm going to have an entirely
new respect for them. But here's the great thing, Jamie.
We live in a world now where if you don't
have that ability to know a thing. You can go
online and you can look on YouTube, and we've got
(19:43):
some very good practitioners of things like fencing, and I'll
tell you what their little lessons on your terminal knots
and straining wire and all of that brilliant. How I
translate that from the screen to the paddock Again, we'll
have a conversation a little while.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I'll let you know, well, you need to get a
lesson from some of those guys down the field days
or the rural games. They're brilliant, brilliant fences. Okay, I
got to go. I might have mixed my metaphors with
Prince Andrew and the lamb chop. I think pork chop
is what I was looking for.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Wasn't Look, he's in the awful pit regardless of what
cutt he is the awful.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Pure Yeah, okay. The book. The book is called Kiwi Country,
Rural New Zealand and one hundred objects, A great toilet book,
ideal stocking filler. And you could not just send her
off the best sellers list. And that's her own book
and the unauthorized.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Biography with the support of all those good rural folks.
They're not so rural folks. We certainly can.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
You've got on your radar. Imagine marketing your book as
a toilet book. Yeah, Hamish Mackay chatted to him when
I was in Perth. So I will endeavor to get
my hands on a couple of copies of that, got
to have a read of it myself, and then we'll
give you an opportunity to win one. It will be
an ideal stocking filler for you. It was interesting, wasn't
(20:57):
it When he was talking about the young farmers presenting
Rob Muldoon with a lamb in nineteen seventy six, and
being a student of history, I thought, I wonder who
the young Farmer of the Year was in nineteen seventy six,
and it was a guy called John Mitherl. Hello John,
if you're listening, I don't know where you're from, but
(21:19):
you wandered in nineteen seventy six. And then I'm looking
at nineteen seventy five and a guy by the name
of Paul Jarman was the Young Farmer of the Year.
And I'd talked about Tim Dangel and Emma Paul and
George Dodson and of course Hugh Jackson, but go back
one year before that, twenty twenty one, and it was
(21:40):
Jake Jarmin. I wonder if Jake's any relation to Paul.
Let me know on the text line five nine. If
you know, and if you know who the twenty twenty
Young Farmer of the Year was, I will give you
one million dollars cash. That's because there wasn't one because
of COVID. So James Robertson, who was the twenty nineteen
(22:04):
Young Farmer of the Year, holds the unique position certainly
as far as I can see, as being the only
man or person to be the Young Farmer of the
Year for two years in a row. Useless trivia for you.
We will take a break with Michelle's busy trying to
find out who our ag Person of the Year was
(22:25):
last year. Got so many to remember, We'll tell us
who yours is on the text line five double nine.
A few early votes. And for Jane Smith, believe it
or not, she has a bit of a poster girl
for certain people and farming. Anyhow, We're on News and
Sports News next Lindy Nelson from Safer Farms, Wira app
(22:48):
a farmer, and Phil Duncan on the weather, Welcome back
to the country. The show is brought to you by
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(23:10):
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Twenty four away from one year. The old solar panels
did come in rather handy when the power was off
for several days. Definitely worth a look at that one.
There some of your feedback coming in. I'm sorry, it's
sad to hear this. John Metherrell. We were talking about
John as the nineteen seventy six Young Farmer of the Year.
(24:33):
A texta says hello, Jamie. John Metherrill died a few
years ago. He lived in Bellcluther. What a great legacy
being the young farmer of their someone else's texted in
saying thirty nine meals of rain in Tikawiti in the
last twenty four hours. I think that would be welcome,
wouldn't it very dry on the east coast. We're going
to go there shortly with war Wrappa farmer Lindy Nelson
(24:56):
and Jamie. Can you give me the name of the book, um,
if it's on my note somewhere which i've lost, or
I'll find the name. I'll find the name of the
radars book and remember, we'll give you an opportunity to
win a couple of them. Here's Michelle with Rural News
and who the ag person was last year.
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Speaker 4 (25:24):
So if I had a drum roll, Michelle on the
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have given you a drum roll.
Speaker 7 (25:30):
Who was it?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Was it Miles Horror or Todd McClay.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Now I thought it was Myles Horror and I went
into some deep big diving because then I started seeking
guessing my answer and I found out actually it was
Todd McClay last year, but Myles Horror and Wayne Langford
bought both in the top three.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
All right, so there you go. We're gonna have some
fun and games with the agg person of the Year
towards the end of the year. But what's in rural
news and Rural News?
Speaker 8 (25:54):
New Zealand Pork Chief executive Brink Plaice believes the country
should be concerned about Spain's confirmed cases of African swine fever.
Spain has confirmed that two wild bars found dead near
Barcelona tested positive for the virus. Among other countries, the
United Kingdom quickly moved to temporarily ban imports from the country.
The Ministry for Primary Industries was monitoring the situation at
(26:14):
Spain and said New Zealand would not accept any port
from that region of the country. You can find more
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Speaker 1 (26:26):
All right, well there's rural news sports on the country
with AFCO one hundred percent ki we owned and trusted.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
That's rare. And we've got a cricket test tomorrow. Groundstaff
at Hagleyoval are happy with the pitch prepared for the
season opening Test match between the black Caps and the
West Indies in Christchurch starting tomorrow. Head groundsman Jaden Towhelt
says it will have plenty of bounds and should be
a bit of a challenge. Early on won the toss
(26:54):
and long serving Football Ferns captain Annalie Longo has an
now her imminent retirement debuting is a fifteen year old.
The one hundred and forty three match veteran will bow
out of the international game after tomorrow's second friendly against
Australia in Adelaide. So there you go. Send you Texan
(27:15):
on five double nine. Let us know who your ag
person of the eras up next, someone who makes a
really good contribution to agg and the primary sector in
this country. Lindy Nelson. She is the chair of Safer Farms.
She's also the founder and trustee i think still the
trustee of the Agriwomen's Development Trust and also a Wira
(27:38):
rapper farmer. And I've got some other texts coming in.
I'll read those and then we'll come back to you.
Lindy Nelson next, thanks to explain. Lyndy Nelson is a
Wira rapper farmer. She's also the chair of Safer Farms.
On the day of the big win Thursday, the twenty
third of October, she sent me a text and she said,
(27:59):
let's not have the headline next week worker killed while
shifting stock and Lindy, that was part of the industry
message for farmers to a get out of the wind
and b when it came to chopping up the trees,
let the experts do it. We were very worried about springback.
As far as I'm aware, there have been no serious
(28:19):
injuries or fatalities around the tidy up of the storm.
Good afternoon, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Good afternoon, Jamie I think the same thing, and as
a really good example of all of us recognizing, hey,
the real potential here and to stop Paul's plan, share
that skill widely and just go, let's approach this differently.
And yeah, we did it.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Now I've got a text from one of your PR
people who does an excellent job of badgering me on
behalf of Safer Farms, and he said, we're heading into
the peak season for injuries and fatalities. That's a rather
in command, isn't it. It is?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And so we recognize this and we're urging farmers to
plan around this. I mean, if what I think of
the last few years, Jamie, we had quad bite deaths,
we had contractors killed coming home late at night, where
kids on farm that died, And so this is farm
injuries and fatality spike over the summer months. And so
(29:26):
what we're urging farmers same thing as we did around
that wind pause, Build those stop and think moments into
your day. Plan it, share that plan with your wife,
your team, set the job up right, and a little
urge from me, Jamie, you know, farmers are getting a
little bit more income this year. Maybe the Christmas present
(29:49):
for yourself and your team is a bit of an
investment in some safety equipment.
Speaker 8 (29:54):
Like what.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Crush protection would be fantastic because certainly last year when
we did that deep dive into what is preventing farmers
from fitting crash protection on their quad bikes, cost was
an absolute barrier. And so there's one thing that we
could take control of. Would be great to see good inductions,
(30:18):
you know those there's always an antidote to a bad choice, Jamie,
isn't there. And we're sort of urging farmers to really
recognize this is a pressure time of year. How do
we go about getting fuld safely so we all can
sit around the Christmas table.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
But Lundy to find a positive picture or light on
this one. We are getting better.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
We are getting better, and we have seen farmers stepping
up to that, Jamie, investing in good safety equipment, better
inductions for their staff. We are getting better, but it's
those little bit you know, may be seeing the time
we totally get it right, Jamie. You know, we kind
of I think we're bad at health and safety, but
(31:01):
we're not. Ninety percent of the time we get it right,
but we need built in bits for when things go wrong.
We need to be able to fail safely.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Heaven help us. We even had a health and safety
plan for our southern storm shout last week, Lundy, what
could possibly go wrong there?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
And everyone got home safely, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yes they did, I'm pleased to say. And that's because
we had a health and safety plan. Go, you're a
wira app a farmer. I'm going to ask you about
the dry But just before we do that, we were
chatting about the Golden Shares because I put a plea
out to someone to put me up for the weekend
and I've had some wonderful office including from you too,
are Lindy wonderful. But we were talking about health and
(31:45):
safety and how the sharing industry is so much better
than it used to be because there's an industry that's
fraught with danger, back injuries, etc.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Absolutely, and those guys and ladies have recignized it. They
get me so fit for that sharing season. They are athletes,
so high performance athletes in the sharing sheds pretty amazing.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Absolutely, they're not as cavalier as they used to be.
In the old days. It was a work hard, drink hard,
play hard game.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yep, it was, but absolutely brought that culture of care
into their sharing teams, they look after them, so they
look after one another and they plan actually to get
home safely at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Hey, how big a deal for the wire rapper is
the Golden Share is going to be this year early
March or next year twenty twenty six early March, because
you've got the World Sharing Champs as well.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Isn't that amazing that in a time where wall has
actually not traditionally been doing so well, we've had a
listener that we actually have events like this and we
have people who handle our will share it, present it,
get it out of our sheds. It's pretty phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah, really looking forward to that one. And I'm hoping
a key we can take home the World Sharing Champs.
And as I mentioned you are a wire rapper farmer,
and Eka Tahuna one of my favorite golf courses in
the country, Ikadhna. It's a lovely little town regarded as
kind of being summer safe even though the wire a
rapper region. And I'm looking at the Aniwa or Earth
(33:21):
Sciences n Z drought Index map and the east coast
of both islands are starting to getting to get dry.
How are you guys hanging in.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You know, we're actually good. We've had some rain. We've
got some more forecast on Wednesday. We're looking pretty good.
But we can see around us, you know, a south
wire rapper along that coast. We came down from the
Hawk's Bay in the weekend and yeah, it's looking pretty dry.
Some crops there that you know, have failed to spring
(33:49):
up and do their thing.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Lindy Nelson's share of Safer Farms. I'm remembered do you
remember that old TV program? I'm trying to remember the
cop program from the eighties Street Blues? Do you remember that?
My age, Jamie, But I'll take that as yes. And
what did the sergeant used to say, Hey, be careful
out there or something when he sent everyone out. So
that's the message to the farmers out there, because I
(34:14):
know it is a very stressful time, very long hours.
Just be careful out there and get home for Christmas.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Thanks Jamie, Thank you, Lindy.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
It is eleven away from one here on the country.
I'm going to look up who said that? Was it
Frank Farrillo or the serge? I can't remember anyhow, we
are going to take a break. We've got Phil Duncan
and your feedback to wrap the show.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
It's nun.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Whatever she saw him, Candle Shadow becas on Worming and
Carndle Shadow last a little that Saturday night.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Welcome back to the country. Sorry, some of you have
experienced a weave at a dead air. We're trying to
work out what happened there. But anyhow we're back and
I'm just waiting to get Phil Duncan online for Liz
and Wanaka. She wanted to know what the book was.
The book is called Kiwi Country, Rural New Zealand and
one hundred Objects from Radar. Look, we're just going to
(35:27):
try and resink ourselves and come back with Phil Duncan.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
It can't be leaked from Matthew and so you old wind.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Watch them run down a platform one between the.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Matthew and son. Whatever done your dungeon? A dungeon be
working the Hoday, there's the bad men and break and
(36:20):
that's all you teak for a com.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Okay, Sorry for all the technical difficulties not operator era
beyond our control. We will get Phil Duncan tomorrow because
I've run out of time to chat to them. Poor
old Phil's waiting on hold there. We'll get them on tomorrow.
Also Hamas shma as Special Agricultural Trade Envoy on the
dairy conversions. Thirty two is the number in Canterbury, which
(36:57):
is quite sizable, but we're a long way off peak Elk.
And also Chippy precipitates on the show tomorrow, looking forward
to that one. That is us out of here. I've
even run out of Cat Stevens. It's just one of
those days at the office. Michelle's shaking her head. We
will catch you back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
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