November 18, 2025 • 38 mins
Jamie Mackay talks to Christopher Luxon, Celia Jaspers, Matt Bolger, Shane McManaway and Nancy Crawshaw, and Karen Williams.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I'm Jamie MacKaye.
The show is brought to you by Brandt. This is
the Statler Brothers Flowers on the Wall. Bruce Willis loved
the song. He used it in a couple of movies.
He starred in Pulp Fiction and Die Hard. With the
Vengeance and those of you with good memories, we'll also
remember that it's the musical theme minus the lyrics to
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a dog show And guess what a dog show is
coming back? Not the TV program, but a film about
the TV program. We're going to chat to Celia Jaspers
very shortly, who's out in the field filming this new film.
We'll tell you all about it very shortly. The Prime
Minister will kick off the show Christopher Luxen the polls
(01:22):
record red meat prices in the future of Agri zero NZ.
After some rather controversial comments yesterday from Jane Smith and
the Methane Science Accord, Matt Bolger joins us Fonterra's MD
of co Op Affairs YEP. As predicted by the Futures Market,
seventh drop in a row in that GDT auction is
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ten dollars now past tense. We will ask the Managing
Director of co Op Affairs, Shane mcmanaway and Nancy Crawshaw.
We're going to announce the five New Zealand finalists for
the twenty twenty six Zander McDonald Awards, and if I
get time, Karen Chief Executive of Irrigation New Zealand on
the damage to those pivots in North Canterbury. It is
(02:07):
a shaker. But up next it's the PM.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
No, don't tell me I have nothing to do. I
don't tell me I'm nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Wednesdays on the Country, the PM kicks off the show.
We do appreciate his time. Tuesday evenings for me, Prime
Minister is picking up the rubbish bins, getting ready for
my Heather Duplessy, Allen Cross and getting the left leaning
listener out of the mailbox. And I went to grab
it last night and lo and behold, I got a
hell of a fright. You and Nichola were staring at me.
(02:43):
It's pamphlet time.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Got a party, got a pamphlet from us saying all
the things we've done over the last two years. Have
you have you come up to the tea?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yes, it does. You've done all these wonderful things. But
obviously all the people have been polled recently, haven't read
the pamphlet.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
No, it's good, and that would been really busy actually,
when you think about it, I mean we've had sort
of two things to do. One is just to fix
the basics. That's really been the focus of the first
two years. And now it's sort of built out the future.
And so it's really genuinely as you know, when you
take a snapshot and you look back and you think
about what we've done about trying to get the economy
and the books back in order, trying to make sure.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
We restore law and order, it sort of a better.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Health education, get the infrastructure program up and running and moving.
You know, there's been a lot of work going through.
So I think, you know, someone told me the other day,
I think they've been the busiest government in Parliament in
terms of more passing than they've probably seen since I
hate administer.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It's one thing being busy, it's another one being popular
and popular enough to be re elected. Just before we
get onto the good news story, which is red meat,
I want to ask you if you've read that Tova O'Brien,
Colum and stuff, and she probably makes a fair point.
You know, Labor and National flip a coin there at
the moment in terms of popularity. I'm not saying it'll
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stay there because I think the economy is going to
improve next year. But she makes the point, and she's
bang on. The minority parties will decide the selection, so
it's ACT and New Zealand first versus Greens and to
party Mari advantage National.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yeah, I just say, you know, I think we've got
a long way to go. I get lots of people
want to talk polls all the time. I get all that,
but the point is, honestly, we have got so little
time and so much to do to turn the show around.
That's what I've got to be focused on as you
could understand. But with respect to MMP, New New Zealand,
rightly or wrongly, have voted many many times to say
MMP is the system they want. As a result, as
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you look at Western Europe that has exactly the same
system as New Zealand, you have to form coalition governments.
You know, I'm thinking of countries like Finland and Netherlands
that have four party coalitions, five party coalitions, and so
you know, that is the reality of what you need
to do because of the political system that we have.
But I just say, I think when you look at
a coalition of you know, Labor Greens, to Party Mari
(04:57):
and two Independence chucked in, you know, there's seven of
your twenty ministers essentially already predetermined. And I just don't
think now other people to take the country forward.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
When I caught up with here at the christ Show,
you were no bad pun intended, very bullish about red meat.
I think you've just been talking to Dan Bolton, chief
executive of silver firm Farms, so it had just come
back from an offshore marketing trip and of course over
the weekend we got Trump dropping the tariffs on our beef.
So red meat is a bit of a star of
the stable at the moment.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Look, I think there's several things going on. I've had
Nathan Guy with me on many of my almost my
delegations over the last year, and we've been pushing this
case of pasture fed, grass fed red meat as we
have with dairy, and I think it's going really well
and it's a unique story that we can tell. The
second thing is that when I was at Apec, I
was looking at an economics report and you can see
that essentially there is more demand for red meat in
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the world than there is supply, and actually to rebuild
back those herds in those livestock is going to take
some time, so at least out to twenty thirty, I
think there'll be more demand and there will be supply.
So as a result, all around the world, prices for
red meats have gone through the roof. And as you've
seen that, then on the weekend, you know President Trump
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has obviously decided beef has become very unaffordable. And actually
in the US you've had a declining livestock herd, but
you've also had high quality beef from New Zealand that's
often mixed with lower quality US beef and made the
decision to go back to pre Liberation Day tariffs and
back to that position. That is awesome for US because
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for the US red meat is our number one export
into that market, and so that means that we're back
to where we were before Trump introduced tariff. So that's
really good. It's about thirty percent of our total business
that we do with the US, which is really fantastic.
The other seventy percent obviously still carries the fifteen percent tariff.
We continue to pack the case against that. So I
think that's really good. And actually in the last year
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after the end of September, it was a twenty nine
percent increase year on year, and it's growth everywhere. It's
growth into the US obviously, but it's also very strong
othen too, the EU, into the UK and also into
China as well, so there is a huge amount of opportunity.
I just think that should give confidence and clarity to
the red meat guys to say, yep, we can build
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good businesses over the coming years and actually invest appropriately.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Final question for you, Prime Minister, have you heard of
the Methane Science Accord?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
No, but I'm very proud of the methane decision that
we made, which was to say we'll work within a
boundary of ten to twenty four and whether we can
do that, we can also deliver through our technology and
our agri zero program, we can deliver some really good
innovation going forward.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Well, these guys are saying or they're putting the boot
into Agri zero n Z. They're saying New Zealand's spending
over a billion dollars on methane mitigation research for a
problem that does not measurably exist. They say current methane
accounting rules exaggerate New Zealand's warming impact by three to
four hundred percent. I kind of agree with their last comment.
(07:56):
Livestock farms are in most cases carbon neutral or in
this country once we account for everything, What do you say,
are we wasting money with agri zero? In said, I
know Wayne McNee has been on my case. He's a
staunch advocate of what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Yeah, look, Agri zero, we haven't. It's a four hundred
and fifty million, not a billion. And I think I
just say to you, look, over the last one hundred
and fifty years, New Zealand's farming success has been built
about constant constant adoption of technology and innovation. And if
it's the day we stop doing that, I'm telling you
is the day that we'll stop being the world's best
farmers and the best and the most carbon efficient farmers
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in the world. We have some really smart projects in
that system. They're not just ideas, they're actually real projects
that can have real benefits on the emission side, but
also ultimately about improving productivity. And I think, as you've
seen over the last fifty years, we can improve productivity
and lower emissions at the same time and going forward,
(08:54):
and I'm very confident about that. So I was more
concerned that the Agra zero projects of ideas, they weren't
actual real innovations that could actually deliver real benefits. So
we just need one or two of those ideas to
come off that are in that fun I think there's
sixteen projects or something from memory. We just need one
or two of them to come off, and we can
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continue to be carbon efficient and we continue to be
highly productive. And that's what we've got to keep doing.
I mean, you know, it's often.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Say it's like the All Blacks.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
If the All Blacks play rugby like they played ten
years ago, they'd lose today. If they play like they
play today, they're going to lose in ten years time.
You just got to be constantly, constantly, constantly improving and
adopting technology innovation.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Well that's not a good example. The All Blacks are
playing like they're playing at the moment and they're losing.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Well I realized that as I said, yes, yeah, never.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Mind, you can't take it back live radio. Thanks for
your time, Prime Minister.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Good to be worth you Ray have a great week in.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Seventeen after twelve, Thank you Prime honesty. If that wasn't
the best example to use anyhow, there you go. Let
us know what you think about that. Agri zero in
Zi thinks our text number is five double oh nine.
We're going to tell you more about the Southern Farmer's
Storm shout coming up a courtesy of Emerson's and Spats
(10:09):
and Silver Fern Farms. Ay and Zed have come on
with a coffee cart and a ice cream stall. Who
needs to drink Emersons and Spats when you can have
a good coffee and an ice cream. We're offering everything
for you. More about that later, but up next. I'm
so excited about this. They're actually filming it as we speak,
we're going to go to the wire wrapper catch up
(10:31):
with Celia Jaspers. She's a producer for Country Calendar. I
think she's taking some time off to film a film
called A Dog Show. We'll tell you all about it
after the break with the Deck.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Of fifty one, Smoke and Siga at Zandlachim Captain Kanaru
do Hotel me I had nothing to do.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
You're concerned about what happens. You've given me this.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
So as we've been talking about today on the show,
A Dog Show is back. No, not the iconic TV program,
but a movie about the iconic TV program. Really looking
forward to this one being released later next year. The
producer is Celia Jaspers. And Celia, you've got a good
background when it comes to rural films if you want,
(11:25):
because you're a longtime producer of Country Calendar. Good afternoon,
welcome to the country.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Thank you, Jamy to you, yes, very much like a
young one of the directors of Country Calendar. I've been
doing that for about ten years, about forty plus episodes
over the years, and I can't want to farm hoops.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
You're just cutting out on me. Do you live in
the back block somewhere I do.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
I'm just out of Martin ber at the moment. Yeah,
so I farm here with my husband. We've got a sheep,
beef and cropping block. So yeah, I literally stand in
the film world in the farming world a little bit.
So it's a perfectly positioned I think for this kind
of film.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Now, the original Dog Show was on nineteen seventy seven
to nineteen ninety two, and when I think about that
show and we all used to watch it on a Sunday,
I think it was a Sunday, I'm thinking of the
late John Gordon, who was the commentator, narrator. He was brilliant.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Yes, he was so iconic for that time. And Frank
Taorley of course produced the Dog Show back then. And
then we're on to do Country Calendar as well, so
there's a lot of cross over there. But John Gordon
has involved in the pre production of this script in
this film, and he worked with Alex Galvin, our writer,
to actually work through this dog trailing to understand what
would work for us and what we needed for story.
And he gave his blessing before he passed, and we're
(12:38):
very sad that he can't be with us now to
see this be imagined on the screen. But you see
fully endorsed what we were doing, and it's such a
positive story for dog trailing and all of these yealand
certainly rural sector as well, so we're really hopeful.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
So the film's based effectively on fictitious characters. But do you,
for instance, have a character resembling John Gordon.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Well, I couldn't say if it's ring, but there is
a commentator who has quite large beer, so you can
read into that if you like. But his lines were
iconic and certainly the tone of that style is really
fund So we're leaning into as much authenticity of the
seventies as we can.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
So you've got real actors in there and some well
known New Zealanders who are taking leading roles, but in
the extras you've got to have some real dog trialists.
I'm assuming Celia.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Really and I think because I'm a documentarian by trade
and I make real I really want to make this authentic.
So we oposting getting moved and we handle dogs. We
actually have reached out to the whole dog trailing community
and a lot of people from Carpany, Hawk's Bay and
the Wairappa clubs have all have signed up. We've been
casting for months and months. I've been literally casting dogs,
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standing in packs, looking at dogs, meeting the owners, going right,
are they up for the regulars of this? And so yeah,
we've got a lovely selection of people have given a
lot of time and a lot of training and also
helping us learn well.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Celia, is it more important to be able to handle
the dog well or act in front of a camera
and not be tow wooden?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Yeah, I think we could teach people to act, but
you can't teach people to dog very well, so i'd
much either they were good at that first.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Are you prepared to throw out a couple of names
of the dog trollers sur are involved? I mean I
think back to people like Ginger Anderson, who was famous
back in the day for being on a dog show.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Absolutely well, Ginger was one of the inspirations and is
an elderly gent now, but we would have loved to
we could get a few cameos of those kind of
guys as well. But yeah, current trialist Sheena Martin has
given us a lot of time, and Eastman from the
Wide RAFA and John Harvey, who's the former president of
the colleague club, I believe, and he lives in Martin
and down the road from us, and he's been very
supportive over the last of three years while I've been
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developing it. So yeah, they certainly all the dogs are
real deal and they're all very good at what they do,
so it's pretty cool at introducing them into the film world.
These poor dogs came along to set last week for
our first week and pretty overwhelming with all the technology
and all the cameras, but they handled it like pros.
They've really been quite amazing.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well. Lloyd Smith as a former brother in law of
John Gordon and he's still in the currently in the
new Zeale and Dog Trilling team, but I think he's
based down south. He might have been a bit expensive
to get up there. So what's the guts of the storyline?
Because I'm reading that the story or the film story
centers on Jack and this is wonderful, a retired sheep
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dog trialist who must come out of retirement with his
granddaughter to save the family farm by winning one last competition.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yep, exactly, that's the synopsis there, and it is. It's
a lovely it's a family story, very fictitious, but it
is a sort of multi generation and Jack is our
elderly if you like, grandfather character and his very enthusiastic
granddaughter is desperate to dog trial. But Jack was embarrassed
on National TV on the Dog Show and he doesn't
want to trial anymore, so she's really convincing him to
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come back. And meanwhile, some struggles struggles are happening on
the farm and they end up having to go into
a team's competition, which we don't do very often in
New Zealand, but it has happened overseas in the UK.
And yes, we've got a very huge teams event if
you like is Ze finale and so a lot of dogs,
a lot of people, and yeah, see who wins.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
They face an old rival and the movie is described
as an intergenerational redemption story any good movie, Celia, and
I don't need to tell you this because you're much
more experienced than I am in this field needs a baddie?
Have we got a baddie in this one?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
We do?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
We do have a villain, yes, played by the David
Winnem from Australia who was in the Hobbit and a
lot of you. So yeah, David's really enjoying this. He's
loving all the always Baddie.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Okay, So we also have some leading New Zealand actors
in there as well. Well, look, we have got we
haven't got a great line. So we're expecting this thing
to come out late twenty twenty six and I'm sure
with the iconic music tagline which we've been playing today, Celia,
this is going to be so well received and it
will bring back so many wonderful nostalgic memories for many
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New Zealanders.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Oh we hope so too, and we just will you
all love it. Every time you mentioned the name, everyone
just goes. I remember that from when I was a kid.
So we know there's a lot of support there and
goravel around New Zealand and all cinemas, the provincial cinemas
as well as the city. So we're really hopeful that
we get a lot of support as well. And I
just think their lovely family film to take your kids
long team and really enjoy enjoy the world of the seventies.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Celia Jaspers, thank you very much for your time today
on the country. Looking forward to seeing this movie go well.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Thank you, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Iconic TV show. It's going to be an iconic movie,
iconic soundtrack, Statler Brothers Flowers on the wall. We're going
to excuse me, I'm losing my voice a bit like
the PM. There actually just on the PM and I
probably should have picked them up on this one. A
good text and from dairy man Craig Hickman, thank you
(17:37):
for listening, he said today I learned my cull dairy
cows are high quality New Zealand beef being mixed in
with low quality US beef. A good point made their
dairy man, because of course what's happening with the beef
is ours as much leaner than theirs. That's why they're
mixingan in. That's why they're mixing our old cows and
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with their Hamburger meat beef, which is more fatty as
I understand it. Anyhow, so that is where the carl
cows are going to great money for them at the
moment as well. Other feedback coming in, Oh, I can't
read that one. I think the PM's weakness is that
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he's allowing what was the worst government in New Zealand
history an opportunity to potentially return to the government next election.
He lacks the ability to be ruthless, says Demo. Well,
he's going to have to be ruthless. But as I
pointed out or discussed with him, look, I'm not sure
it's National v Labor folks in this election. They're possibly
neck and neck and neck of you. To believe the polls,
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it's the support parties and that's where National will have
an advantage. It is act in New Zealand first, providing
Winston stays the course up against the Greens and to
party Maury, how does that one end? Oh, I'm shut
oer to think right, I'm up next Matt Boulger, some
of the former Prime Minister, Jim Bolger. We're going to
talk about that Fonterra g d T event overnight.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You're concerned about that business.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But Global dary Trade auction overnight, no surprise, the futures
market was picking it for the seventh time in a row.
It went down down three percent, whole milk powder down
one point nine percent, but I took a bit of
a spanking down seven point six percent to tell us more.
Fonterra's managing director of co Op Affairs, Matt Boulger. Matt,
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before you comment on that, I just want to say
to you, I haven't spoken to you since the passing
of your father, former Prime Minister Jim Boulger. What a
lovely send off he had.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Yeah, thanks Jamie, and good to talk.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
You know.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
It was a look, it's it's always hard to lose
a parent, but now we managed to give him a
good send off and he's we're being really touched by
the tributes coming in and the support for mum of
the family. So that's been great.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Well, I think like other National prime ministers, and I
can think of Rob Muldoon and history's probably judged him
worse as time has gone on, I think history has
been kind to Jim Bolger, the great helmsman, especially with
some of the foresight he had around treaty settlements.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah, thank you. I'll look at some politics isn't for
the faint heart, and hopefully you don't go into it
to win claudits. But no, people of people have been
very kind in there in the memories, and as I
reminded somebody, he was in the workforce for about eighty years,
but he was only a politician for about twenty five.
So he did a few other things, including being a
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farmer for a fair while as well, so he had
a few different paths to life.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Absolutely rest in pace. Look, you talked about politics being
a tough gig. Is it a tough gig at the
moment to try and sell whole milk, powder and butter
on the world stage. This is seven in a row.
I know that you're going to reassess. Perhaps that ten
dollars forecast milk price in early December you got to
go down. Gravity would suggest it has to.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
So, Look, it wasn't a great auction, but I guess
it reflects really underlying supply and demand dyn It's no
surprises there with commodity pricing. So what we've seen is
a lot of milk out of the big producing and
export regions, and New Zealand milk is up quite significantly,
particularly the South Islands really really charging in terms of
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milk volumes. But also places like Europe's probably about three
percent up year and year in August with recovery from
blue tongue over there. The States is maybe up four
percent year and year, and places like Argentina and Uruguay
are going pretty well. In Brazil is importing a bit less,
so with relatively flat demand and a lot of supply
(21:46):
coming on. I guess that's the dynamic we're seeing there.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
It's just the commodity cycle because at these high prices,
the tap is literally being turned on right around the world,
and it's probably being aided by low grain prices.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Yeah, yep, you get all those factors. I mean, one
thing to be conscious of, the course, is we would
have contracted at this stage in the season. We're probably
about fifty percent contracted, and a lot of those contracts,
of course, were written and booked at prices that were
higher earlier in the season. So you know, the question
is what will the milk price be. We'll get the
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team together and digest the numbers, and I guess look
at the big supply demand balance, what inventories are looking like,
and look at that over the next few days and
see if we do need to do anything.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
The other mitigating factor out there is the low exchange
rates sitting at about under fifty seven US since fifty
six and a half something like that. But I do
note that Mike McIntyre from Jardens says that that won't
really affect this season because as of the twenty fifth
September I two months ago, Fonterra had already hedged seventy
two percent of the current season, so the low currency,
(22:53):
I'm hoping the trading department's getting in boots and all
at the moment, Matt and grabbing some of this action
for next season.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yep, yep. We've got a pretty good good crew that
looks at at exchange rates. Obviously it's a big factor
and it's really good for exports across the board, and
you've in on ourselves included to have that exchange rate.
We haven't always had the situation of relatively higher commodity
prices and lower exchange rates, so certainly that's positive for us.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Matt Bolger, thanks for some of your time. We'll await
that early December announcement from Fonterra on the adjusted and
I'm sure it will be adjusted milk forecast price. Thanks
for your time. Thanks, Jammy, good on you Matte twenty
five away from one year with the country. Up next,
Michelle Watt with the latest and rural news. We'll have
sports news for you. And if you want to break
(23:41):
a break a drought in Hawke's Bay, just schedule in
an international cricket game before the end of the hour.
Shane mcmanaway and Nancy Crawshaw will announce the five New
Zealand finalists of the twenty twenty six Xander McDonald Awards,
and the Chief Executive of Irrigation New Zealand is Karen Williams.
(24:01):
I think she's in christ Church today for their agm
no doubt. Also having a look at some of those
pivots in North Canterbury that have been smashed, and will
tell you about the Southern storm shout as well.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
You can always find me here and have it fire
the time here and you're concerned.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
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from forest to final form. They've got your sorted. Yes,
(25:31):
live the wood life. I like your work there. Whoever
wrote that great opportunity for the old wood Miser at
the moment, I would think, with all the trees that
have been blown over recently, we're going to tell you
about the Southern or Southern Farmer's storm shout.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Next.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
We need a name for this event, mindey. We've got
a few days to think of one. But first here's
rural news worth letting me get this right. Misfriendship two
thousand and two at the set ealth Otago Show, Michelle Watt.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
The Country's World News with cauld Cadet, New Zealand's leading
right on Lawnbower brand. Visit steel Ford dot cot On,
NZM for your locals doggist.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Have you figured out who the queen was?
Speaker 8 (26:13):
I can't remember. I think it was Kerrie Anne was
her name. So if anyone out there remembers who the
show queens were in two thousand and two, flick as
a text on five double O nine.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Well who wants to be the queen when you can
be Miss Friendship exactly?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
Everyone likes Miss Friendship?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Well I guess they do well And the good news
is the Miss Friendship two thousand and two at the
South Otago Show will be at the Southern Storm Show.
We're going to have this next Thursday three to seven
pm at the Woodhead Farm, Nigel and Lean's levels flat
halfway between Belcluther and Milton. We're going to give you
the directions. Emerson's and Spats are there. The Milton Lions
(26:50):
are doing the Barbie. Silver Fern Farms is providing the meat.
The Milton Lions, what a wonderful organization they are. Have
got a courtesy coach to get you all home safely.
We've also got a coffee cart and an ice cream cart.
Thank you A and Z Bank, And I wonder whether
we have the bold hop oil and fused New Zealand
(27:10):
pilsner brewed with the taste of crisp lemons and lines
with a refreshing finish. Hi the Emerson Spacasa.
Speaker 8 (27:18):
I haven't tried yet. By you, I have put my
hand up to sober drive because I'm competing next night.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
He didn't put your hand up. You were told that
was a dictatorship. Here we run a dictatorship. It works
quite well from my point of view. What are you
letting out? There's a cricket game supposedly on in Napier,
but we've also got a drought breaker coming.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
Yeah, well hopefully it looks like there might be some
rain heading towards that direction as well. But at the moment,
Bay of Plenty is getting a severe drenching and there's
met service warnings out there. So Bay of Plenty Regional
Council has activated its flood room this morning, with teams
checking flood defenses such as stop banks, flood wolves and
monitoring river levels, flows and rainfall. So worth checking those
(27:56):
warnings if you're around that area. Also, I think with
the Hawk's base sort area as well. It's coming, so
just be aware.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah, I think that one day international, the second one
is due to kick off. Yeah yeah, that's not that's
not the right. The world draws have some bowl none
hope due to start, due to start at two pm.
Will update that one for you. In fact, let's do
it now.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Sports on the country with AFCO invested in your farming success.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
So, as we were saying, rain is forecast for the
second one day Cricket International between New Zealand and the
Windys in Napier two pm. Scheduled start under threat if
players possible. Black Caps wicket keeper Tom Latham is urging
his fielders to display a better mindset and focus on
taking their chances after dropping multiple catches in the opening
(28:46):
one day A former Black Cap Jesse Ryder will play
for Team Cricket in January's Black Clash in Mount Monganilli.
He'll love that format. A few bears on the job
and Samoa as the final team qualify for the twenty
twenty seven Men's Rugby World Cup in Australia. Great to
see them there. Up next, we're going back to the Wira.
(29:08):
Rapper Shane mcmanaway. Well, he's there and Nancy crawl Shaw's
in Northern Hawkspace, so we'll ask them who are the
five finalists for the New Zealand finalists? Should I say
for the twenty twenty six Sandra McDonald Award. It is
one of the most prestigious farming competitions on the farming calendar. Yes,
(29:31):
the Xander McDonald Awards. Let's welcome on to the country
the founder, Shane mcmanaway and the twenty twenty four winner,
Nancy crawl Shaw. Shane, I'll start with you, seeing it's
your baby. You guys have just today announced the New
Zealand short list for the final three, which who will
be selected and a winner will be announced I think
(29:52):
in christ Church in early March. But talk me through
the process. Good afternoon by the.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
Way, Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie, thanks for having us on.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
The process is that applications came in over the last
few weeks for the award. Then we go through those
applicants and with the judges on both sides of the
Tasman and we then identify the top five. And gee,
that's a challenging exercise because everybody that applies is doing
some outstanding stuff in our industry, Jamie. So we arrive
(30:24):
at the top five and then they will come in
to the wire Rapper here for a judging first week
of December, and then out the other side of that
the winner will be announced at our summit conference in
christ Church. We were holding it this year and that's
always a super exciting time.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
And the Aussies do likewise. Okay, let's bring in Nancy
Crawl short twenty four. Want to Nancy? Do you want
to go through the short list the five New Zealand finalists?
Speaker 10 (30:52):
Yes, I ken So. First up we have Chloe Butcher
Herry So. She's a farm manager at mass U Station
in Central Hooks Bay. Then we have Carn Darlywall. He's
the founder and owner of greenfield development and cropping business
Ohneye Why Harvest Limited and Darlywyll Egg Limited in the Wyhadow. Third,
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we've got Lana Marshall. She's a client director at mzab So.
She works in financial guidance and strategic planning for farmers
as well as been a fifty fifty sheermilker and she's
based down in Chicago and Southland.
Speaker 9 (31:30):
Then we have.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
Laura Torpy, she's a crop bleeder at the vegetable produce
company as Wilcox and Chuns Limited and a deer farmer
from Auckland. And we also have Sophie Furley who's a
CEO of sustainable luggage and accessories brand Honest Wolf out
of Hunterville.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Yeah, five great finalists Shane mcmana and I do know
two of them, all of these. Interviewed two of them
on the show here, Chloe Butscha Harries who was on
Country Calendar recently, also a former winner of the Fenawa
Are Farming Awards. And Sophie Hurley, she is the woman
behind the Honest Wolf brand out of Hunterville. Both great backstories,
but I'm sure the other three have equally interesting stories.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
Yeah, they certainly do. Jamie that the caliber of people
that keep coming forward for this award is incredible. And look,
I get the job of bringing these people and telling
them they're in the top five, and just the conversations
that you have with them, the professionalism and the just
just you know, they are of the very highest caliber.
(32:32):
So picking a winner out of any of these five
is going to be women challenging. But our judging process
is rugged and got a lot of rigor and and
we've always come out with the best out of the
out of the group. But that being said, just being
in the top five of this award certainly will put
some wind under the wings of these people that have
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been associated with the award.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yeah, and the Ozzies mirror that judging process on the
other side of the tasma. As we said, all decided
at your conference in christ Church in early March. And
Nancy Crawlshaw, you're based in northern Hawk's Bay, and I'm
looking at my old NIEWA or Earth Sciences New Zealand
Drought Indicator map and and I see from sort of
nape your hastings down especially down to central hawks By,
(33:17):
it's very very dry. Indeed, I'm assuming you're a bit
dry as well, are you.
Speaker 10 (33:22):
Yes, we're a bit dry than when we're like but
we do have rain scheduled this afternoon, and we know
if we're going to get rain will respond quite well.
So just fingers crossed the where the game plays in
our favor.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Today and Shane down the road and the wire are
rapper summer dry traditionally.
Speaker 9 (33:39):
Yeah, not too bad, Jamie. We've had quite a bit
of rain around the spot of the place. Over the
last few weeks. But one of the challenges we're facing
and the wire rapper's facing at the moment is cut
wormen our green feed crops, though we've never seen anything
like it for a while, and you know, overnight these
things can decimate a crop, so we're a bit challenged
by those, but generally we're in pretty good order. Stopped
(34:00):
look fantastic.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
And Nancy, are you still spending half your life in Australia.
Speaker 10 (34:05):
Yes, i am, but this month the next month I'm
a lot more New Zealand based and it's been very
enjoyable being back on farmer bit more and back in
New Zealand list instead of being on planes the whole time.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Yeah, exactly. Well, well, Shane mcmanaway is a man who's
spent his life on a plane, decided he had enough
of it, so it went farming, built a hospital as
you do. Shane, you're a great New Zealander and Nancy
thank you very well. I'm not saying you're not a
great New Zealander, Nancy, but thank you very much both
of you for your time today on the country and
we look forward to seeing who will take out the
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twenty twenty six Sanda McDonald Award.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
Thank you for the ongoing support Jamie of the award.
Speaker 10 (34:41):
Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Thanks guys. It is eight away from one Up Next
to Wire. Rapp is dominating the show today Chief Executive
of Irrigation A New Zealand Karen Williams.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
So good, seg you're concerned about.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Wrapping the show with Karen Williams, chief executive of these
days of Irrigation New Zealand. Why are Rapper farmer? But
she's not there today, She's down in christ Church ahead
of this afternoon's AGM. And of course Canterbury has been
at the forefront of your thoughts Karen, because you've had
that incredible damage, especially in North Canterbury to all those
center pivot irrigators.
Speaker 11 (35:23):
Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie. Yeah, Now look, gosh, the South
Island was sort of all the brunt of that. We
also saw some pivots tipped over in South Water Upper
as well. But yeah, that Colvid and the Murray Basin
area was definitely the EPC center of damage and destruction.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
So I was reading four to five hundred spans were toppled.
That's going to take a lot of repairing. But the
cavalry is coming apparently in the form of the Aussies.
Speaker 11 (35:49):
Yeah, look and your numbers. We're sort of just checking
them in with some of the insurance companies today and
we probably are looking in that five hundred spand yeah,
and look, I must want to ignore all of the
industry and government for really reaching out to each other
right from day dot to look at how we can
facilitate the quickest outcomes for our farmers and growers. And
(36:12):
so you know, teams were stood up really quickly by
the service companies. And they're also looking offshore and at
this stage to Australia for bringing in some more skilled
resource and that's just you know, they're confident that they're
going to really break the back of this before Christmas
and with the three peers with complete rebuilds and we're
(36:33):
only looking at a handful of those that will head
through into the new year.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, and the farmers will be hoping they get some
rain in the meantime because it's going to be tough
farming without that arrogating. They just need to schedule a
one day international for COVID and and they've would solve
all the problems. It seems like you guys in the
wire rapper may get some benefit from that. It's in
the Bay of plenty. Now. One text has said peeing
(36:58):
down was a polite saying it, and Nape's so maybe
no cricket, but the farmers will be happy. Hey, what
is it about wire rapper Shane mcmanaway, Celia Jasper, is
there your next door neighbors?
Speaker 10 (37:11):
It's a good spot.
Speaker 11 (37:12):
You'll have to come and visit and bring the show
along sometimes.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Well, I am coming to visit for the Golden Shares
and the World Championship or the World Championship Shares in
Masterton when late February early March next year.
Speaker 11 (37:25):
Yes, fantastic. Well we should arrange something because there's some
y some great great local leaders there and some and
some technically an opportunity for something.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I'm staying at your place. Have you not got that memo?
Speaker 11 (37:37):
I thought I had Rowena staying.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
But that's fine. Oh we can get you get to
pet the two of us for the price of one.
I'm sure I'll find somewhere to bunk down. What a
great region. Hey, Karen Williams, good luck for your AGM
this afternoon.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Thank you, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
There we go, Karen Williams and the wire Rapper. Remember
Thursday Week. Next Thursday at the Woodhead Farm in South
Otago the Farmer's Storm Shout. More about that tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Catch you then, I don't catch all the latest from
the land. It's The Country Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks
to Brent, your specialist in John Deere machinery.
Catch all the latest from the land. It's The Country
Podcast with Jamie mckue. Thanks to Brent. You're specialist in
John Deere construction equipment.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hecky hearing you're concerned about my happiness. But aren't that
that you've given me this cot toga, the barble falcon
and your shoes.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Up when you were in Enne.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
What you and your friends are wearing about me? I'm
having lots of fun down Flowers.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
On the Wall.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Good afternoon, New Zealand. Welcome to the Country. I'm Jamie MacKaye.
The show is brought to you by Brandt. This is
the Statler Brothers Flowers on the Wall. Bruce Willis loved
the song. He used it in a couple of movies.
He starred in Pulp Fiction and Die Hard. With the
Vengeance and those of you with good memories, we'll also
remember that it's the musical theme minus the lyrics to
(00:59):
a dog show And guess what a dog show is
coming back? Not the TV program, but a film about
the TV program. We're going to chat to Celia Jaspers
very shortly, who's out in the field filming this new film.
We'll tell you all about it very shortly. The Prime
Minister will kick off the show Christopher Luxen the polls
(01:22):
record red meat prices in the future of Agri zero NZ.
After some rather controversial comments yesterday from Jane Smith and
the Methane Science Accord, Matt Bolger joins us Fonterra's MD
of co Op Affairs YEP. As predicted by the Futures Market,
seventh drop in a row in that GDT auction is
(01:43):
ten dollars now past tense. We will ask the Managing
Director of co Op Affairs, Shane mcmanaway and Nancy Crawshaw.
We're going to announce the five New Zealand finalists for
the twenty twenty six Zander McDonald Awards, and if I
get time, Karen Chief Executive of Irrigation New Zealand on
the damage to those pivots in North Canterbury. It is
(02:07):
a shaker. But up next it's the PM.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
No, don't tell me I have nothing to do. I
don't tell me I'm nothing to do.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Wednesdays on the Country, the PM kicks off the show.
We do appreciate his time. Tuesday evenings for me, Prime
Minister is picking up the rubbish bins, getting ready for
my Heather Duplessy, Allen Cross and getting the left leaning
listener out of the mailbox. And I went to grab
it last night and lo and behold, I got a
hell of a fright. You and Nichola were staring at me.
(02:43):
It's pamphlet time.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Got a party, got a pamphlet from us saying all
the things we've done over the last two years. Have
you have you come up to the tea?
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yes, it does. You've done all these wonderful things. But
obviously all the people have been polled recently, haven't read
the pamphlet.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
No, it's good, and that would been really busy actually,
when you think about it, I mean we've had sort
of two things to do. One is just to fix
the basics. That's really been the focus of the first
two years. And now it's sort of built out the future.
And so it's really genuinely as you know, when you
take a snapshot and you look back and you think
about what we've done about trying to get the economy
and the books back in order, trying to make sure.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
We restore law and order, it sort of a better.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Health education, get the infrastructure program up and running and moving.
You know, there's been a lot of work going through.
So I think, you know, someone told me the other day,
I think they've been the busiest government in Parliament in
terms of more passing than they've probably seen since I
hate administer.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It's one thing being busy, it's another one being popular
and popular enough to be re elected. Just before we
get onto the good news story, which is red meat,
I want to ask you if you've read that Tova O'Brien,
Colum and stuff, and she probably makes a fair point.
You know, Labor and National flip a coin there at
the moment in terms of popularity. I'm not saying it'll
(03:56):
stay there because I think the economy is going to
improve next year. But she makes the point, and she's
bang on. The minority parties will decide the selection, so
it's ACT and New Zealand first versus Greens and to
party Mari advantage National.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Yeah, I just say, you know, I think we've got
a long way to go. I get lots of people
want to talk polls all the time. I get all that,
but the point is, honestly, we have got so little
time and so much to do to turn the show around.
That's what I've got to be focused on as you
could understand. But with respect to MMP, New New Zealand,
rightly or wrongly, have voted many many times to say
MMP is the system they want. As a result, as
(04:35):
you look at Western Europe that has exactly the same
system as New Zealand, you have to form coalition governments.
You know, I'm thinking of countries like Finland and Netherlands
that have four party coalitions, five party coalitions, and so
you know, that is the reality of what you need
to do because of the political system that we have.
But I just say, I think when you look at
a coalition of you know, Labor Greens, to Party Mari
(04:57):
and two Independence chucked in, you know, there's seven of
your twenty ministers essentially already predetermined. And I just don't
think now other people to take the country forward.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
When I caught up with here at the christ Show,
you were no bad pun intended, very bullish about red meat.
I think you've just been talking to Dan Bolton, chief
executive of silver firm Farms, so it had just come
back from an offshore marketing trip and of course over
the weekend we got Trump dropping the tariffs on our beef.
So red meat is a bit of a star of
the stable at the moment.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Look, I think there's several things going on. I've had
Nathan Guy with me on many of my almost my
delegations over the last year, and we've been pushing this
case of pasture fed, grass fed red meat as we
have with dairy, and I think it's going really well
and it's a unique story that we can tell. The
second thing is that when I was at Apec, I
was looking at an economics report and you can see
that essentially there is more demand for red meat in
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the world than there is supply, and actually to rebuild
back those herds in those livestock is going to take
some time, so at least out to twenty thirty, I
think there'll be more demand and there will be supply.
So as a result, all around the world, prices for
red meats have gone through the roof. And as you've
seen that, then on the weekend, you know President Trump
(06:09):
has obviously decided beef has become very unaffordable. And actually
in the US you've had a declining livestock herd, but
you've also had high quality beef from New Zealand that's
often mixed with lower quality US beef and made the
decision to go back to pre Liberation Day tariffs and
back to that position. That is awesome for US because
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for the US red meat is our number one export
into that market, and so that means that we're back
to where we were before Trump introduced tariff. So that's
really good. It's about thirty percent of our total business
that we do with the US, which is really fantastic.
The other seventy percent obviously still carries the fifteen percent tariff.
We continue to pack the case against that. So I
think that's really good. And actually in the last year
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after the end of September, it was a twenty nine
percent increase year on year, and it's growth everywhere. It's
growth into the US obviously, but it's also very strong
othen too, the EU, into the UK and also into
China as well, so there is a huge amount of opportunity.
I just think that should give confidence and clarity to
the red meat guys to say, yep, we can build
(07:12):
good businesses over the coming years and actually invest appropriately.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Final question for you, Prime Minister, have you heard of
the Methane Science Accord?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
No, but I'm very proud of the methane decision that
we made, which was to say we'll work within a
boundary of ten to twenty four and whether we can
do that, we can also deliver through our technology and
our agri zero program, we can deliver some really good
innovation going forward.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Well, these guys are saying or they're putting the boot
into Agri zero n Z. They're saying New Zealand's spending
over a billion dollars on methane mitigation research for a
problem that does not measurably exist. They say current methane
accounting rules exaggerate New Zealand's warming impact by three to
four hundred percent. I kind of agree with their last comment.
(07:56):
Livestock farms are in most cases carbon neutral or in
this country once we account for everything, What do you say,
are we wasting money with agri zero? In said, I
know Wayne McNee has been on my case. He's a
staunch advocate of what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Yeah, look, Agri zero, we haven't. It's a four hundred
and fifty million, not a billion. And I think I
just say to you, look, over the last one hundred
and fifty years, New Zealand's farming success has been built
about constant constant adoption of technology and innovation. And if
it's the day we stop doing that, I'm telling you
is the day that we'll stop being the world's best
farmers and the best and the most carbon efficient farmers
(08:33):
in the world. We have some really smart projects in
that system. They're not just ideas, they're actually real projects
that can have real benefits on the emission side, but
also ultimately about improving productivity. And I think, as you've
seen over the last fifty years, we can improve productivity
and lower emissions at the same time and going forward,
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and I'm very confident about that. So I was more
concerned that the Agra zero projects of ideas, they weren't
actual real innovations that could actually deliver real benefits. So
we just need one or two of those ideas to
come off that are in that fun I think there's
sixteen projects or something from memory. We just need one
or two of them to come off, and we can
(09:14):
continue to be carbon efficient and we continue to be
highly productive. And that's what we've got to keep doing.
I mean, you know, it's often.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Say it's like the All Blacks.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
If the All Blacks play rugby like they played ten
years ago, they'd lose today. If they play like they
play today, they're going to lose in ten years time.
You just got to be constantly, constantly, constantly improving and
adopting technology innovation.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Well that's not a good example. The All Blacks are
playing like they're playing at the moment and they're losing.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Well I realized that as I said, yes, yeah, never.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Mind, you can't take it back live radio. Thanks for
your time, Prime Minister.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Good to be worth you Ray have a great week in.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Seventeen after twelve, Thank you Prime honesty. If that wasn't
the best example to use anyhow, there you go. Let
us know what you think about that. Agri zero in
Zi thinks our text number is five double oh nine.
We're going to tell you more about the Southern Farmer's
Storm shout coming up a courtesy of Emerson's and Spats
(10:09):
and Silver Fern Farms. Ay and Zed have come on
with a coffee cart and a ice cream stall. Who
needs to drink Emersons and Spats when you can have
a good coffee and an ice cream. We're offering everything
for you. More about that later, but up next. I'm
so excited about this. They're actually filming it as we speak,
we're going to go to the wire wrapper catch up
(10:31):
with Celia Jaspers. She's a producer for Country Calendar. I
think she's taking some time off to film a film
called A Dog Show. We'll tell you all about it
after the break with the Deck.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Of fifty one, Smoke and Siga at Zandlachim Captain Kanaru
do Hotel me I had nothing to do.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
You're concerned about what happens. You've given me this.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
So as we've been talking about today on the show,
A Dog Show is back. No, not the iconic TV program,
but a movie about the iconic TV program. Really looking
forward to this one being released later next year. The
producer is Celia Jaspers. And Celia, you've got a good
background when it comes to rural films if you want,
(11:25):
because you're a longtime producer of Country Calendar. Good afternoon,
welcome to the country.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
Thank you, Jamy to you, yes, very much like a
young one of the directors of Country Calendar. I've been
doing that for about ten years, about forty plus episodes
over the years, and I can't want to farm hoops.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
You're just cutting out on me. Do you live in
the back block somewhere I do.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
I'm just out of Martin ber at the moment. Yeah,
so I farm here with my husband. We've got a sheep,
beef and cropping block. So yeah, I literally stand in
the film world in the farming world a little bit.
So it's a perfectly positioned I think for this kind
of film.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Now, the original Dog Show was on nineteen seventy seven
to nineteen ninety two, and when I think about that
show and we all used to watch it on a Sunday,
I think it was a Sunday, I'm thinking of the
late John Gordon, who was the commentator, narrator. He was brilliant.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Yes, he was so iconic for that time. And Frank
Taorley of course produced the Dog Show back then. And
then we're on to do Country Calendar as well, so
there's a lot of cross over there. But John Gordon
has involved in the pre production of this script in
this film, and he worked with Alex Galvin, our writer,
to actually work through this dog trailing to understand what
would work for us and what we needed for story.
And he gave his blessing before he passed, and we're
(12:38):
very sad that he can't be with us now to
see this be imagined on the screen. But you see
fully endorsed what we were doing, and it's such a
positive story for dog trailing and all of these yealand
certainly rural sector as well, so we're really hopeful.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
So the film's based effectively on fictitious characters. But do you,
for instance, have a character resembling John Gordon.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Well, I couldn't say if it's ring, but there is
a commentator who has quite large beer, so you can
read into that if you like. But his lines were
iconic and certainly the tone of that style is really
fund So we're leaning into as much authenticity of the
seventies as we can.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
So you've got real actors in there and some well
known New Zealanders who are taking leading roles, but in
the extras you've got to have some real dog trialists.
I'm assuming Celia.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Really and I think because I'm a documentarian by trade
and I make real I really want to make this authentic.
So we oposting getting moved and we handle dogs. We
actually have reached out to the whole dog trailing community
and a lot of people from Carpany, Hawk's Bay and
the Wairappa clubs have all have signed up. We've been
casting for months and months. I've been literally casting dogs,
(13:44):
standing in packs, looking at dogs, meeting the owners, going right,
are they up for the regulars of this? And so yeah,
we've got a lovely selection of people have given a
lot of time and a lot of training and also
helping us learn well.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Celia, is it more important to be able to handle
the dog well or act in front of a camera
and not be tow wooden?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Yeah, I think we could teach people to act, but
you can't teach people to dog very well, so i'd
much either they were good at that first.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Are you prepared to throw out a couple of names
of the dog trollers sur are involved? I mean I
think back to people like Ginger Anderson, who was famous
back in the day for being on a dog show.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
Absolutely well, Ginger was one of the inspirations and is
an elderly gent now, but we would have loved to
we could get a few cameos of those kind of
guys as well. But yeah, current trialist Sheena Martin has
given us a lot of time, and Eastman from the
Wide RAFA and John Harvey, who's the former president of
the colleague club, I believe, and he lives in Martin
and down the road from us, and he's been very
supportive over the last of three years while I've been
(14:37):
developing it. So yeah, they certainly all the dogs are
real deal and they're all very good at what they do,
so it's pretty cool at introducing them into the film world.
These poor dogs came along to set last week for
our first week and pretty overwhelming with all the technology
and all the cameras, but they handled it like pros.
They've really been quite amazing.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well. Lloyd Smith as a former brother in law of
John Gordon and he's still in the currently in the
new Zeale and Dog Trilling team, but I think he's
based down south. He might have been a bit expensive
to get up there. So what's the guts of the storyline?
Because I'm reading that the story or the film story
centers on Jack and this is wonderful, a retired sheep
(15:15):
dog trialist who must come out of retirement with his
granddaughter to save the family farm by winning one last competition.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yep, exactly, that's the synopsis there, and it is. It's
a lovely it's a family story, very fictitious, but it
is a sort of multi generation and Jack is our
elderly if you like, grandfather character and his very enthusiastic
granddaughter is desperate to dog trial. But Jack was embarrassed
on National TV on the Dog Show and he doesn't
want to trial anymore, so she's really convincing him to
(15:44):
come back. And meanwhile, some struggles struggles are happening on
the farm and they end up having to go into
a team's competition, which we don't do very often in
New Zealand, but it has happened overseas in the UK.
And yes, we've got a very huge teams event if
you like is Ze finale and so a lot of dogs,
a lot of people, and yeah, see who wins.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
They face an old rival and the movie is described
as an intergenerational redemption story any good movie, Celia, and
I don't need to tell you this because you're much
more experienced than I am in this field needs a baddie?
Have we got a baddie in this one?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
We do?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
We do have a villain, yes, played by the David
Winnem from Australia who was in the Hobbit and a
lot of you. So yeah, David's really enjoying this. He's
loving all the always Baddie.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Okay, So we also have some leading New Zealand actors
in there as well. Well, look, we have got we
haven't got a great line. So we're expecting this thing
to come out late twenty twenty six and I'm sure
with the iconic music tagline which we've been playing today, Celia,
this is going to be so well received and it
will bring back so many wonderful nostalgic memories for many
(16:48):
New Zealanders.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Oh we hope so too, and we just will you
all love it. Every time you mentioned the name, everyone
just goes. I remember that from when I was a kid.
So we know there's a lot of support there and
goravel around New Zealand and all cinemas, the provincial cinemas
as well as the city. So we're really hopeful that
we get a lot of support as well. And I
just think their lovely family film to take your kids
long team and really enjoy enjoy the world of the seventies.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Celia Jaspers, thank you very much for your time today
on the country. Looking forward to seeing this movie go well.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Thank you, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Iconic TV show. It's going to be an iconic movie,
iconic soundtrack, Statler Brothers Flowers on the wall. We're going
to excuse me, I'm losing my voice a bit like
the PM. There actually just on the PM and I
probably should have picked them up on this one. A
good text and from dairy man Craig Hickman, thank you
(17:37):
for listening, he said today I learned my cull dairy
cows are high quality New Zealand beef being mixed in
with low quality US beef. A good point made their
dairy man, because of course what's happening with the beef
is ours as much leaner than theirs. That's why they're
mixingan in. That's why they're mixing our old cows and
(17:58):
with their Hamburger meat beef, which is more fatty as
I understand it. Anyhow, so that is where the carl
cows are going to great money for them at the
moment as well. Other feedback coming in, Oh, I can't
read that one. I think the PM's weakness is that
(18:19):
he's allowing what was the worst government in New Zealand
history an opportunity to potentially return to the government next election.
He lacks the ability to be ruthless, says Demo. Well,
he's going to have to be ruthless. But as I
pointed out or discussed with him, look, I'm not sure
it's National v Labor folks in this election. They're possibly
neck and neck and neck of you. To believe the polls,
(18:41):
it's the support parties and that's where National will have
an advantage. It is act in New Zealand first, providing
Winston stays the course up against the Greens and to
party Maury, how does that one end? Oh, I'm shut
oer to think right, I'm up next Matt Boulger, some
of the former Prime Minister, Jim Bolger. We're going to
talk about that Fonterra g d T event overnight.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
You're concerned about that business.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But Global dary Trade auction overnight, no surprise, the futures
market was picking it for the seventh time in a row.
It went down down three percent, whole milk powder down
one point nine percent, but I took a bit of
a spanking down seven point six percent to tell us more.
Fonterra's managing director of co Op Affairs, Matt Boulger. Matt,
(19:34):
before you comment on that, I just want to say
to you, I haven't spoken to you since the passing
of your father, former Prime Minister Jim Boulger. What a
lovely send off he had.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Yeah, thanks Jamie, and good to talk.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
You know.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
It was a look, it's it's always hard to lose
a parent, but now we managed to give him a
good send off and he's we're being really touched by
the tributes coming in and the support for mum of
the family. So that's been great.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Well, I think like other National prime ministers, and I
can think of Rob Muldoon and history's probably judged him
worse as time has gone on, I think history has
been kind to Jim Bolger, the great helmsman, especially with
some of the foresight he had around treaty settlements.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah, thank you. I'll look at some politics isn't for
the faint heart, and hopefully you don't go into it
to win claudits. But no, people of people have been
very kind in there in the memories, and as I
reminded somebody, he was in the workforce for about eighty years,
but he was only a politician for about twenty five.
So he did a few other things, including being a
(20:37):
farmer for a fair while as well, so he had
a few different paths to life.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Absolutely rest in pace. Look, you talked about politics being
a tough gig. Is it a tough gig at the
moment to try and sell whole milk, powder and butter
on the world stage. This is seven in a row.
I know that you're going to reassess. Perhaps that ten
dollars forecast milk price in early December you got to
go down. Gravity would suggest it has to.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
So, Look, it wasn't a great auction, but I guess
it reflects really underlying supply and demand dyn It's no
surprises there with commodity pricing. So what we've seen is
a lot of milk out of the big producing and
export regions, and New Zealand milk is up quite significantly,
particularly the South Islands really really charging in terms of
(21:25):
milk volumes. But also places like Europe's probably about three
percent up year and year in August with recovery from
blue tongue over there. The States is maybe up four
percent year and year, and places like Argentina and Uruguay
are going pretty well. In Brazil is importing a bit less,
so with relatively flat demand and a lot of supply
(21:46):
coming on. I guess that's the dynamic we're seeing there.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
It's just the commodity cycle because at these high prices,
the tap is literally being turned on right around the world,
and it's probably being aided by low grain prices.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Yeah, yep, you get all those factors. I mean, one
thing to be conscious of, the course, is we would
have contracted at this stage in the season. We're probably
about fifty percent contracted, and a lot of those contracts,
of course, were written and booked at prices that were
higher earlier in the season. So you know, the question
is what will the milk price be. We'll get the
(22:19):
team together and digest the numbers, and I guess look
at the big supply demand balance, what inventories are looking like,
and look at that over the next few days and
see if we do need to do anything.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
The other mitigating factor out there is the low exchange
rates sitting at about under fifty seven US since fifty
six and a half something like that. But I do
note that Mike McIntyre from Jardens says that that won't
really affect this season because as of the twenty fifth
September I two months ago, Fonterra had already hedged seventy
two percent of the current season, so the low currency,
(22:53):
I'm hoping the trading department's getting in boots and all
at the moment, Matt and grabbing some of this action
for next season.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yep, yep. We've got a pretty good good crew that
looks at at exchange rates. Obviously it's a big factor
and it's really good for exports across the board, and
you've in on ourselves included to have that exchange rate.
We haven't always had the situation of relatively higher commodity
prices and lower exchange rates, so certainly that's positive for us.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Matt Bolger, thanks for some of your time. We'll await
that early December announcement from Fonterra on the adjusted and
I'm sure it will be adjusted milk forecast price. Thanks
for your time. Thanks, Jammy, good on you Matte twenty
five away from one year with the country. Up next,
Michelle Watt with the latest and rural news. We'll have
sports news for you. And if you want to break
(23:41):
a break a drought in Hawke's Bay, just schedule in
an international cricket game before the end of the hour.
Shane mcmanaway and Nancy Crawshaw will announce the five New
Zealand finalists of the twenty twenty six Xander McDonald Awards,
and the Chief Executive of Irrigation New Zealand is Karen Williams.
(24:01):
I think she's in christ Church today for their agm
no doubt. Also having a look at some of those
pivots in North Canterbury that have been smashed, and will
tell you about the Southern storm shout as well.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
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Speaker 4 (24:22):
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Speaker 6 (25:47):
Next.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
We need a name for this event, mindey. We've got
a few days to think of one. But first here's
rural news worth letting me get this right. Misfriendship two
thousand and two at the set ealth Otago Show, Michelle Watt.
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Speaker 4 (26:12):
Have you figured out who the queen was?
Speaker 8 (26:13):
I can't remember. I think it was Kerrie Anne was
her name. So if anyone out there remembers who the
show queens were in two thousand and two, flick as
a text on five double O nine.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Well who wants to be the queen when you can
be Miss Friendship exactly?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
Everyone likes Miss Friendship?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Well I guess they do well And the good news
is the Miss Friendship two thousand and two at the
South Otago Show will be at the Southern Storm Show.
We're going to have this next Thursday three to seven
pm at the Woodhead Farm, Nigel and Lean's levels flat
halfway between Belcluther and Milton. We're going to give you
the directions. Emerson's and Spats are there. The Milton Lions
(26:50):
are doing the Barbie. Silver Fern Farms is providing the meat.
The Milton Lions, what a wonderful organization they are. Have
got a courtesy coach to get you all home safely.
We've also got a coffee cart and an ice cream cart.
Thank you A and Z Bank, And I wonder whether
we have the bold hop oil and fused New Zealand
(27:10):
pilsner brewed with the taste of crisp lemons and lines
with a refreshing finish. Hi the Emerson Spacasa.
Speaker 8 (27:18):
I haven't tried yet. By you, I have put my
hand up to sober drive because I'm competing next night.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
He didn't put your hand up. You were told that
was a dictatorship. Here we run a dictatorship. It works
quite well from my point of view. What are you
letting out? There's a cricket game supposedly on in Napier,
but we've also got a drought breaker coming.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
Yeah, well hopefully it looks like there might be some
rain heading towards that direction as well. But at the moment,
Bay of Plenty is getting a severe drenching and there's
met service warnings out there. So Bay of Plenty Regional
Council has activated its flood room this morning, with teams
checking flood defenses such as stop banks, flood wolves and
monitoring river levels, flows and rainfall. So worth checking those
(27:56):
warnings if you're around that area. Also, I think with
the Hawk's base sort area as well. It's coming, so
just be aware.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Yeah, I think that one day international, the second one
is due to kick off. Yeah yeah, that's not that's
not the right. The world draws have some bowl none
hope due to start, due to start at two pm.
Will update that one for you. In fact, let's do
it now.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Sports on the country with AFCO invested in your farming success.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
So, as we were saying, rain is forecast for the
second one day Cricket International between New Zealand and the
Windys in Napier two pm. Scheduled start under threat if
players possible. Black Caps wicket keeper Tom Latham is urging
his fielders to display a better mindset and focus on
taking their chances after dropping multiple catches in the opening
(28:46):
one day A former Black Cap Jesse Ryder will play
for Team Cricket in January's Black Clash in Mount Monganilli.
He'll love that format. A few bears on the job
and Samoa as the final team qualify for the twenty
twenty seven Men's Rugby World Cup in Australia. Great to
see them there. Up next, we're going back to the Wira.
(29:08):
Rapper Shane mcmanaway. Well, he's there and Nancy crawl Shaw's
in Northern Hawkspace, so we'll ask them who are the
five finalists for the New Zealand finalists? Should I say
for the twenty twenty six Sandra McDonald Award. It is
one of the most prestigious farming competitions on the farming calendar. Yes,
(29:31):
the Xander McDonald Awards. Let's welcome on to the country
the founder, Shane mcmanaway and the twenty twenty four winner,
Nancy crawl Shaw. Shane, I'll start with you, seeing it's
your baby. You guys have just today announced the New
Zealand short list for the final three, which who will
be selected and a winner will be announced I think
(29:52):
in christ Church in early March. But talk me through
the process. Good afternoon by the.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
Way, Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie, thanks for having us on.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
The process is that applications came in over the last
few weeks for the award. Then we go through those
applicants and with the judges on both sides of the
Tasman and we then identify the top five. And gee,
that's a challenging exercise because everybody that applies is doing
some outstanding stuff in our industry, Jamie. So we arrive
(30:24):
at the top five and then they will come in
to the wire Rapper here for a judging first week
of December, and then out the other side of that
the winner will be announced at our summit conference in
christ Church. We were holding it this year and that's
always a super exciting time.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
And the Aussies do likewise. Okay, let's bring in Nancy
Crawl short twenty four. Want to Nancy? Do you want
to go through the short list the five New Zealand finalists?
Speaker 10 (30:52):
Yes, I ken So. First up we have Chloe Butcher
Herry So. She's a farm manager at mass U Station
in Central Hooks Bay. Then we have Carn Darlywall. He's
the founder and owner of greenfield development and cropping business
Ohneye Why Harvest Limited and Darlywyll Egg Limited in the Wyhadow. Third,
(31:16):
we've got Lana Marshall. She's a client director at mzab So.
She works in financial guidance and strategic planning for farmers
as well as been a fifty fifty sheermilker and she's
based down in Chicago and Southland.
Speaker 9 (31:30):
Then we have.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
Laura Torpy, she's a crop bleeder at the vegetable produce
company as Wilcox and Chuns Limited and a deer farmer
from Auckland. And we also have Sophie Furley who's a
CEO of sustainable luggage and accessories brand Honest Wolf out
of Hunterville.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Yeah, five great finalists Shane mcmana and I do know
two of them, all of these. Interviewed two of them
on the show here, Chloe Butscha Harries who was on
Country Calendar recently, also a former winner of the Fenawa
Are Farming Awards. And Sophie Hurley, she is the woman
behind the Honest Wolf brand out of Hunterville. Both great backstories,
but I'm sure the other three have equally interesting stories.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
Yeah, they certainly do. Jamie that the caliber of people
that keep coming forward for this award is incredible. And look,
I get the job of bringing these people and telling
them they're in the top five, and just the conversations
that you have with them, the professionalism and the just
just you know, they are of the very highest caliber.
(32:32):
So picking a winner out of any of these five
is going to be women challenging. But our judging process
is rugged and got a lot of rigor and and
we've always come out with the best out of the
out of the group. But that being said, just being
in the top five of this award certainly will put
some wind under the wings of these people that have
(32:53):
been associated with the award.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yeah, and the Ozzies mirror that judging process on the
other side of the tasma. As we said, all decided
at your conference in christ Church in early March. And
Nancy Crawlshaw, you're based in northern Hawk's Bay, and I'm
looking at my old NIEWA or Earth Sciences New Zealand
Drought Indicator map and and I see from sort of
nape your hastings down especially down to central hawks By,
(33:17):
it's very very dry. Indeed, I'm assuming you're a bit
dry as well, are you.
Speaker 10 (33:22):
Yes, we're a bit dry than when we're like but
we do have rain scheduled this afternoon, and we know
if we're going to get rain will respond quite well.
So just fingers crossed the where the game plays in
our favor.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Today and Shane down the road and the wire are
rapper summer dry traditionally.
Speaker 9 (33:39):
Yeah, not too bad, Jamie. We've had quite a bit
of rain around the spot of the place. Over the
last few weeks. But one of the challenges we're facing
and the wire rapper's facing at the moment is cut
wormen our green feed crops, though we've never seen anything
like it for a while, and you know, overnight these
things can decimate a crop, so we're a bit challenged
by those, but generally we're in pretty good order. Stopped
(34:00):
look fantastic.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
And Nancy, are you still spending half your life in Australia.
Speaker 10 (34:05):
Yes, i am, but this month the next month I'm
a lot more New Zealand based and it's been very
enjoyable being back on farmer bit more and back in
New Zealand list instead of being on planes the whole time.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Yeah, exactly. Well, well, Shane mcmanaway is a man who's
spent his life on a plane, decided he had enough
of it, so it went farming, built a hospital as
you do. Shane, you're a great New Zealander and Nancy
thank you very well. I'm not saying you're not a
great New Zealander, Nancy, but thank you very much both
of you for your time today on the country and
we look forward to seeing who will take out the
(34:36):
twenty twenty six Sanda McDonald Award.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
Thank you for the ongoing support Jamie of the award.
Speaker 10 (34:41):
Thanks Jamie.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Thanks guys. It is eight away from one Up Next
to Wire. Rapp is dominating the show today Chief Executive
of Irrigation A New Zealand Karen Williams.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
So good, seg you're concerned about.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Wrapping the show with Karen Williams, chief executive of these
days of Irrigation New Zealand. Why are Rapper farmer? But
she's not there today, She's down in christ Church ahead
of this afternoon's AGM. And of course Canterbury has been
at the forefront of your thoughts Karen, because you've had
that incredible damage, especially in North Canterbury to all those
center pivot irrigators.
Speaker 11 (35:23):
Yeah, good afternoon, Jamie. Yeah, Now look, gosh, the South
Island was sort of all the brunt of that. We
also saw some pivots tipped over in South Water Upper
as well. But yeah, that Colvid and the Murray Basin
area was definitely the EPC center of damage and destruction.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
So I was reading four to five hundred spans were toppled.
That's going to take a lot of repairing. But the
cavalry is coming apparently in the form of the Aussies.
Speaker 11 (35:49):
Yeah, look and your numbers. We're sort of just checking
them in with some of the insurance companies today and
we probably are looking in that five hundred spand yeah,
and look, I must want to ignore all of the
industry and government for really reaching out to each other
right from day dot to look at how we can
facilitate the quickest outcomes for our farmers and growers. And
(36:12):
so you know, teams were stood up really quickly by
the service companies. And they're also looking offshore and at
this stage to Australia for bringing in some more skilled
resource and that's just you know, they're confident that they're
going to really break the back of this before Christmas
and with the three peers with complete rebuilds and we're
(36:33):
only looking at a handful of those that will head
through into the new year.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, and the farmers will be hoping they get some
rain in the meantime because it's going to be tough
farming without that arrogating. They just need to schedule a
one day international for COVID and and they've would solve
all the problems. It seems like you guys in the
wire rapper may get some benefit from that. It's in
the Bay of plenty. Now. One text has said peeing
(36:58):
down was a polite saying it, and Nape's so maybe
no cricket, but the farmers will be happy. Hey, what
is it about wire rapper Shane mcmanaway, Celia Jasper, is
there your next door neighbors?
Speaker 10 (37:11):
It's a good spot.
Speaker 11 (37:12):
You'll have to come and visit and bring the show
along sometimes.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Well, I am coming to visit for the Golden Shares
and the World Championship or the World Championship Shares in
Masterton when late February early March next year.
Speaker 11 (37:25):
Yes, fantastic. Well we should arrange something because there's some
y some great great local leaders there and some and
some technically an opportunity for something.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I'm staying at your place. Have you not got that memo?
Speaker 11 (37:37):
I thought I had Rowena staying.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
But that's fine. Oh we can get you get to
pet the two of us for the price of one.
I'm sure I'll find somewhere to bunk down. What a
great region. Hey, Karen Williams, good luck for your AGM
this afternoon.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Thank you, Jamie.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
There we go, Karen Williams and the wire Rapper. Remember
Thursday Week. Next Thursday at the Woodhead Farm in South
Otago the Farmer's Storm Shout. More about that tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Catch you then, I don't catch all the latest from
the land. It's The Country Podcast with Jamie McKay. Thanks
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Dateline NBC
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