CSB - Christy Doran - Rugby editor at The Roar

Just four sleeps away from the first Bledislo Cup test of the year. We head across the ditch to catch up with Rugby editor at The Roar to get his take on how this will go. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
International rugby coverage on the Country. Sport Breakfast is proudly
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business to a higher level. Well, time to talk in
the national foot now on the show where this weekend
we've got the first Bledislow Cup Test between the All
Blacks and Wallaby Stadium, Australia Saturday afternoon. It'll be live

(00:21):
here on Gold Sport Kickoff. Is it accorded to six
New Zealand time. Joining us out of Australia. Rugby editor
at the Raw is Christy dour and Mortan Christie.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yea hey, good morning to you, go to join you again, Brian,
You're great.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
To have you here. Before we look at the prospects
this weekend, I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to do this
to you. We'll go back to that historic last to Argentina.
So what was made of that across the ditch?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, yeah, sixty seven to twenty seven, so it was
a forty point margin, which was the second biggest, but
it was the most points that the conceded. And you
had have turned on at seven o'clock in the morning
in Australia and Sydney anyway, and you think, I think, oh,
I have a bit of breakfast rug you how good
you would have been spitting out your coffee in disbelief,
particularly if you saw the score at halftime when the

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Worlds were up twenty to seventeen. But it really exposed
the underbelly of where the world isn't shine under you're
at at the moment. There's a lack of leadership, there's
a lack of hardened test players, and every now and
again you're going to get dished up, and particularly on
a hot, sweaty day in Santa Fe where it's thirty
degrees and they are a battle hard and side with

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a bucket loads of experience, and they couldn't handle the
heat unfortunately. But it's a funny game, they views, and
it can switch pretty quickly. And I just spoke to
your blacks Jason Ryan yesterday and he is talking about
how much they respect the world of you. So it's
an interesting time of conundrum when you get to this position.

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You think, hang on, do the wall understand a chance?
Probably not, But and I rug you and one red
or a penalty or two, and things and shifts very quickly.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
In your time as a rugby editor, a rugby reporter,
Is that the worst performance you've seen from a Wallaby's team?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oh? Look, it's up there. It's definitely the worst second
half I've ever seen. Like there are some good rugbies
and good elements in there, And I've got to be honest,
I've seen some pretty bad importances from the Wallabies over
the years. I think back to Leon last year in
front of sixty thousand, where they really barely fight a shot.
The line out crumbled and they got blown apart everywhere.

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So that was perhaps the most demoralizing ash he's been
in terms of a porter feat. Yeah, that's right towards
the top. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
You've got to take your head off though to Agentina,
don't you They played superbly, particularly in the second half.
Or the Wallabies lit them anyway?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah? Indeed, and their high pace, the intensity, their clean
out work, their ability to free their arms offload. It
wasn't a pretty picture of the lower fish of the
wall of his defense toasts to analyze and you could
see his cares are already grave, but it was probably
dropping off underneath his bucket hat by what he was
witnessing there. But I look, Argentina is a side that

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even the New Zealand has stumbled and flipped up to
three times since twenty twenty, and twice on New Zealand soil.
So they are a team that if you're not at
the top of your game, you'll get punished. And they
have enough players playing in France at the top level
who will pick your part if you if you're not
any good.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Has the love the respects slowly been lost? Now across
the ditch.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
With Joe Shmitt, Oh look I'll say no. And this
is probably the biggest test for him right now because
losing to the two time World Cup champions, the Conpecutive
champions and shot out to go over the last month
and no one expected to show to fire a shot.
Losing to Argentina after the back of a win there

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in an early hours of the morning, that's out of sight,
out of mind. But a Bloodflow cupweek will actually even
the fact that Ruggy's fallen and flipped down the pecking order.
Here in any shame sporting ecosystem, the Bloodslow Cup still
has some sway so that the partial supporter personal who

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flicks it on. Okay, I'll stay on this one because
it's the all blacks and the wall of you. So
this is his big test. A lot of people probably
still coming to terms with the factors another new Zealander
in charge, but secondly that it's Joe Smith, and maybe
there'll be some people learning is known too.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
And the All Black's losing both tests of South Africa
as well in South Africa, so I guess in a
way the Wallabies probably think that the All Blacks are
there for the taking. They're beatable.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, two years ago I definitely circled this series as
banging the time when the will Lacks should be the
most vulnerable. I wrote about it extensively. You've thought about
all the changing of the guard, the players, the White Locks,
Aaron Smiths, the Italics to Game coles Is. They were
all finishing up at the end of twenty three. There's
going to be a new coaching structure and you can

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see the generations. There was an amazing generation that finished
up in twenty fifteen, but all the players in beneath them,
they then came from the bench like the Sampaynes and
the body Barracks to start and when you start to
lose that next generation, that special generation, it does expose
players that haven't been testers and that's what we've seen

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by with the All Blacks in recent weeks and a
recent markets that not having that leadership, those calm heads
and the ability to finish aside. You don't learn that overnight.
So it's disappointing that Australia hasn't been able to get
themselves into a position where they should feel confident going
into this. Yeares, but you only have to look at

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the betting odds showed about six dollars and that's probably fair.
And if you thought that two years ago with the
players coming through the particles, Mark no Long and Duasis
as you know, the ned hunting Games, guys that have
been around for a little while. Unfortunately they've all been
lost and this fresh sixteen debutants this year are all

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being exposed to test rugby at the same time. So
they're trapped between a bit of a rock and a
hard place about where they go. The shay and run
you at the moment, but you know you live in
hope as a world you.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Stand fascinating scenario and studium Australia is the love for
union still there. We've got AFL and NFL playoffs happening
around the same time.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Look The good thing is that it's going to be
a Saturday afternoon fixture. The AFL will be later that
night as we'll be the Rugby League. The Sydney Swans
are playing on the Friday night, so an afternoon fixture
should be sunny weather. You'd expect sixty thous and I'm
slightly disappointed at as a Sydney football stadium where you
could have forty five thousand and really sell it out.

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But it will still have a good feel to it.
And I don't know who it suits more a dry
track with nice conditions. I get the feeling like the
Zeland will really make a statement in this match and
what that means against the wall of is I'm not
so sure, but you can bet your bottom dollar that
Scott Robertson he just wants to ensure that he's not

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a first person to let the cup slip. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
And closer to home last weekend at North Harbor and
they've got an Aussie first five there named Tane Edmond
and he was the star of the show for North Harbor.
Is he on the radar for Aussie's selection maybe this year?
Do you think?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah? Italia, twenty three year old, he's the main part
of the Warrick's house. The last years he's beaten the
Crusaders back in twenty twenty two I think it was,
but also earlier this year down in Melbourne. Look, he's
a talented enough player. I think he is on the radar.
I think he'll be part of Joe Schmidt's squad that
goes on the spring Tour. And had it not been

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the bled ers Low, had it not been the third
part of this TRC, I think he would have been
called up. But it's probably best to allow him to
continue to grow with North Tarboro. At the moment we
saw his desire to run the ball. The Manuwatu defense
was terrible, but you're still going to be able to
see the space and take the space, and he superbly
executed that with thirty three points and two tries and

(08:22):
ten from ten. So he's done everything that he can
to put himself front and center, and I think, yeah,
he'll be He'll be one of those tens that goes
up North later this year.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I think, all right, Christy, so who's going to win
on Saturday night?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Do you think? Look, I think it's pretty obvious from
where how I sounded where it's going to go. But
I would think that your backs by twenty points and
that would be disable. They'll take any win, but I
just don't think the Wallas can handle the All Blacks
at the moment, the pace is still set. We saw
a lot in the quarterfinals of the Drug Your semifinals

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and quarterfinals that New Zealand can play it in an
intention that a show just can't match. And we saw
South Africa New Zealand go toe to toe. We saw
a show and not be able to keep up with
Argentina and I think there'll be a similar sort of
that's our similar strugglege, just to peep with the ferocity

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of what New Zealand will deliver on today.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Bring it on, Christy, Hey, thanks for joining us, mate
and go well.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Thanks Brian, Christy Dori and rugby.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Editor at The Roar in Australia. Big call. A lot
of talk over this side of the ditch about the
Joe Schmidt effect, so we'll got the inside knowledge, you see,
We'll wait and see. I think it's going to be
a cracking game and of course we'll have a live
commentary of that match out of Sydney on Saturday afternoon.
Saturday evening, five forty five kickoff New Zealand time, so

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it's an afternoon game over there. Just taking over of it,
Elliott Smith and Gregle Paul with the call five forty
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