September 28, 2025 • 40 mins
The weight loss plateau that hits about a month into your health journey can be the hardest hurdle when trying to maintain motivation.
Former boxer and founder of Buttabean Motivation, David Letele, joins to discuss the problems people face when trying to get their health back.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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and look, anyone who's interested in their own health and
making changes something. The hardest part of anyone's health journey,
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anyone's health journey is not necessarily getting started, because it's
easy enough to look at yourself and go, God, I've
got to do something, but keeping it going once you
hit that sort of plateau or the novelty wears off,
you know, you might be doing well at the start.
You know, you like to look at what you see
in the mirror of the numbers and the scales dropping,
and then maybe you hit a patch where you're like, oh,
not much is happening at the moment. Maybe you've maybe
(01:35):
I don't know whether it's your actions or you're not
changing your diet, or you're just having that plateau that
people off an experience, and so you wonder whether that
routine's not really doing that much for you. So anyway,
experts say those plateaus can they tend to last maybe
a few weeks before you start seeing progress again. But
it's often the point where most people give up. So
you're gonna have a chat about motivation. How do you
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maintain motivation, not just at the start, but always, And
what do you focus on? Do you focus on weight
loss or do you have another reason that you're trying
to get healthy? Let us know your thoughts and you'll
want your cause on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
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for the HEALTHUB. Today's I don't know how describe actually,
so many ways we can describe him, but he's former boxer,
(02:18):
founder of a Butterbean Motivation otherwise known also as the
Butterbean I think and it's Dave Latali. Gooday, Dave, how
are you going?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Thanks? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, nice to see you. Hey. By the way, while
we're chatting with Dave, his charity the BBM Program and
that's spelt the American Way, so it's just the BBMP
R O g R a M dot com. They're always
looking to raise money to support their charitable works. And
if you're enjoying the chat with Dave, just go to
(02:48):
that website and click on the donate button and boom. Okay,
but Dave, let's remind everyone because I was. I was
chatting to my producer Tyra about and I was like,
so what was Dave's junny again? So where did he
start it? When did he finish? And I was thinking,
some people will they know you, they know your face,
they remember you from various times in your career and things.
(03:09):
But what's your health journey been? From you not being
happy to I mean, I don't know if you're happy
now even let's not assume, but to you know, to
you making changes in your life.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, my journey started in twenty fourteen, I was weighing
in at two hundred and ten kilos. But you know,
more than that, I was like a lot of people.
I was in bad shape physically but worse mentally. Yeah,
And I got off off out of a bed that
I could have really fed on, and I was staring
out at the roof thicked manche How did I stuff
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my life up so badly and wind up here? Because
not only did I pile on the weight, but I'd lost,
you know, my family and businesses, and I was just,
you know, had nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Was it getting to that stage? Was it that you
weren't happy right the way up to then? Or were
you sort of happy, happy, happy, then all of a
sudden you something went wrong and you got into a
worse state before you wanted to, you know, before it
hit you.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Look, life's a roller coaster and it's ups and downs.
My life has not been a normal life, and has
been some really mighty lows and some high highs. But
you know, I guess you'd call it a rock bottom.
You know, that was and I've had a few and
hopefully touch wooden Net no more. But that was the
point where I knew I had to do something about it.
You know, I desperately wanted my children back, and to
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do that, I knew I had to be better.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Is that also a reminder, even just in the context
of my introduction, is that, you know people, I think
a lot of people think that, you know, you make
a change in the you start acting on it, and
then all of a sudden everything's right. But the reality is,
as you just said, it's a roller coaster. So twenty fourteen,
what was your rock bottom? But it's not like everything's
just this curve that goes happy, Dave.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
You know, look, life's tough, especially nowadays, but you know,
life's filled with roadblocks and obstacles and speed bumps, and
you constantly get knocked down and you're right at the
start where you said that, you know, start. It's actually
the hardest thing staying consistent. That's one of the hardest things,
just to keep on it. And people, you know a
lot of the times they start too fast. You know,
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they want to, they get motivated and they want to
you know, they're all one hundred percent into it, one
thousand miles an hour. Everything's hashtag healthy living. They're putting
everything up that they're eating chicken and broccoli on all
their Instagram and social media papers. But you can't maintain that.
So you know, what I've understood is that you've got
to build a slide foundation to work from and understand
that be kind to yourself. You're going to get knocked down,
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but you've got to keep getting up. You fall off
the wagon, get back on. That's what it's about.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Do you need a major motivator or do you need
I guess the reason I'm asking this question so you know,
I'm I try and keep myself in shape. But what
I if I don't feel like keeping it up, All
I tell myself is that if I go for this walk,
I'm going to feel a little bit better. And that's
sort of my goal is just to take a small
in fact, just to take a small step if I
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don't feel like it. As opposed to you know, people
are like, I'm going to become you know, I'm not
in shape, I'm going to become mister middle aged New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
We try and say to people like, you know, we're
very lucky here in New Zealand. We're blessed with some
amazing walks that you can do. That's literally, I mean,
I lost one hundred kilos and kept most of it off.
And how it started was no gimmicks. I got up
off that bed I could have fed on. I went
for a walk around one tree hill. That's how my
journey started. And I stopped drinking fizzy drinks and eating
bread at night. It was that simple. As I started
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feeling better and you know, liking what I saw in
the mirror, like you were saying, I started doing a
bit more, you know, And it's just trying to stay
consistent with it. And for me, I always talk about
having a really strong why, and it sounds airy fairy,
but it actually does work. And I really encourage people
who don't understand or don't know what their wire is
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is to write down a list of five things that
mean a lot to you, and from that list, try
to choose one and put that one thing everywhere, you know,
until it's imprinted in your heart and in your mind.
You have to write it down so you can you
can look at it when when you fall off. You know,
for me, when I started, it was it was I'd
imagine being at the airport with my arms out waiting
for my children, and and the embrace, you know, there's
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plenty of nights I was crying myself to sleep, and
I just keep thinking of that moment, and that's what
kept pushing me forward. That's what kept me getting up.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Actually, as vanity ever work as a why, whatever it is,
you look at them and you're like, I want to
look awesome, and yeah, sure, I tend to think that
that's going to work up to a point.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, everyone's WI is different and you can add multiple
you know, our why now my wife still my family.
I got all my kids back, new wife and son.
But it's now it's helping other people. That's that's our why.
But you get a mult sometimes a why. It doesn't
have to be a deep meaningful one. You know, when
you're trying to get up at five in the morning
to go train, it can be just af I train,
I'll have a nice coffee after, I have a nice
porridge after.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So actually that's not a bad way either.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
It's like whatever it is, it's you just need that deep, burning,
deep down one for those real tough days, you know,
we you just feel like giving up.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
What's the what's the what? What do you in your experience?
What are the what are the most convincing motivations are
there is there are there themes to what people's best
whys are Yours is a pretty powerful one, and I mean,
I'll be honest. For me, I like to I want
to be fit because I want to stay looking. There's
not vanity though. I actually just want to be around
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for my kids as long as possible. That's the ultimate one.
I just think if I lose my mobility in the
years and the decades to come, and I'm not able
to get around and enjoy life as much for my
kids and I don't know if I have grandkids or whatever,
but that's it for me. I think that that's quite
a good why.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
One underd It's powerful, you know because a lot of
the times we need that external one because we give
up on ourselves so easily. You know, we give up
on ourselves so easily. We put ourselves last. But we
need to have you know. So that's why I having
it as an external thing of your children. But it's
you know, it works. You need something with a very
strong why, you can overcome anything and it will always
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get your back on the wagon. This is where you'll
know if it's not your why when you fall off
and you think of it, and it doesn't get your
started again. If you fall if you fall off, or
you have a real bad day and you think and
I can't go on, you know, even like if you're
thinking of actually giving up on everything, if you think
of this, it should always be able to get you
back on. If it doesn't, it's not your why you
need to revisit your lips.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
How often do you see people's change reasons? Because they
must evolve. So if you're a let's say you're a
man or a woman in your twenties or early thirties,
you might not have a family yet. You might be
thinking maybe I'd love to, but you just you know,
you don't have that quite the same external thing that
you might have had when you start a dave.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Everyone's different and everyone and I always say to it
doesn't have to be your children.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
What's an example of what you say? People who don't
have those family connections maybe that well, it's not about.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
That, you know for some people always being able to
drive themselves because I can't think kind of steering wheel.
You know. We had a guy yesterday, we did an
event yesterday where we collab with health end z I
couldn't believe we're actually co labbing with Health New Zealand.
But a guy that's been with us, and it was
the first time in twenty five years he's been able
to put on shoes himself. It's first time in twenty
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five years he's worn shoes, you know, And that is
one of his things, one of the goals he had
being able to jump on a plane, which he hadn't
He had n't jumped on a plane since he was
deported here back in nineteen ninety one. So there's all
these other just amazing stories. And again I was whatever
works for.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You, yeah, what about okay? So what is it that
causes those you know, what is it that causes the challenges?
You know, the plateaus we talk about you get so far?
Is it simply the why? Or is it what are
the other things that can get on top of people? Now?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I think it's you know, there's a difference between motivation
and discipline. So motivation gets your started, but you need
to be you need to have that discipline to keep
you going. And again it's like, you know, people are
always in a rush. It's it's we're not trying to
do the biggest weight you know, Biggest Loser, it's not
all about weight loss. It's about being healthy and happy
and being able to maintain that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You Actually, while we're on that, those Biggest Loser competitions TV,
reality TV and things like that, what's your take on
that stuff? Because they do well well. I think the
news has got some stories of people who've ended up
winning these competitions and then falling to bits. What's your
take on the reality TV? Does it help or hinder people?
(11:36):
Or is it just entertainment? Don't take it too seriously.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
It's just entertainment. But it's I mean, that's extreme. You know,
they're taking things to the extreme. The main thing is,
you know, you've got to be able to maintain it.
And that's why I always say, you know, you build
that foundation. You know, those things. Challenges are good to
get you started, you know, to maybe to get you
off the wagon, get you off the couch and get
your started. But you need you need something, You need
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discipline to keep you going on this because it's not
about just twelve weeks. It's about the rest of our lives.
What's so if people.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Are getting that motivation to get started, I mean, what
if you were advising people what it's not a warning,
but when is that time likely to kick in? Because
you'll get someone who comes along and they'll be like,
Dave Man, it's fantastic, you know what. I looked at
myself and I thought I've got to do something, and
I went for a walk and it was great, and
then I decided, I've got to I'm going to cut
out drinking this soft drink at this time. And I've
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got one a couple of things. I'm walking, but one
feeling great. They're two or three weeks in, what do
you What do you say to them? Because you know
that at some stage they're going to be like, I've
falling off the wagon or whatever.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
We start sewing those seeds pretty early because you know
a lot of our guys when they'll start, like are
from the couch program, say with wellping people just started
literally getting off the couch. Their first week, they might
lose ten to fifteen kilos. So we're trying to tell them,
don't expect that every single week because a lot of
that is fluid. You know, you just got and started,
so you know, we just get We talk about being
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consistent and you've got to It's like This is not fad,
This is not a gimmick. This is the new way
we live. This is a lifestyle. Part of that lifestyle
is having a treat once a week. Yeah, you know
what I mean. It's not going cold turkey. It's you know,
you might have a treat once or twice a week,
but if you're treating yourself every day, that's not a treat,
that's just the way you eat.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Is that an important part of the whole journey is
that if you are making that. I mean, because as
I mentioned, you know, sometimes if you just set yourself
a really small goal, it makes it easier to achieve more.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I remember that this is a silly anecdote, but my mum,
if she wanted me to do some work in the garden,
she didn't tell me that she wanted me to mow
the lawn, trim the hedge, paint the brick wall, do that.
All she'd do is like, it's just a little job
out there. Can you go and do that? And then
once I'm outside, I'll be like, oh, what else to
need done? Before you know, I've done all the jobs
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that I never thought about. Is there something about you
know that versus realizing that this is a lifestyle change,
because that's big picture.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
So you have your ultimate goal, but you're always good
to have those small goals along the way. We always say,
bit by bit, bit by batll bit by bit, we'll
still get you up that that mountain.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You know. Hey, look, we'd love your calls. We're with
Dave Ltelli. He's the founder of the BBB BBM. Sorry
I've just too many initials BBM program. By the way,
if you want to support Dave's charity, it's the BBM program.
It's p R O g R a M dot com.
You can go click on the donate button. But we'd
love to hear from you whether you've got any questions.
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You might be seeking a bit of inspiration from David,
just in terms of someone who's been through the journey himself.
If you've got it, you know you've got something you
want to run by him. But also if you want
to share with us what's worked for you or what
are you struggling with, let's have a chat about it.
Eight hundred eighty ten and eighty text nine two nine
two Jump on the blow. We'll be back with you
in just a minute. It's twenty one past four. My
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son were keep shining on.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Me.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Oh I love bit of Elvis to get us going
where this is the health hub.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We're with Dave Lutelly. He's a form of boxer, formed
of rugby league play, founder of Butan butter Bean motivation,
and we're talking about what motivation works for you or
if you've got any questions for Dave, or you want
to give us the benefit of your experience, because the
whole question about motivation is it's easy. Maybe it's easy
to get that first motivation to get off the couch
or do whatever. You know, you've decided you're not happy
with where you are, but how do you keep it going?
(15:41):
What are the struggles you've had and how did you
overcome them? We'd love the benefit of your experience. Were
any questions you've got for Dave Steven Hello there?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
If you have you have the results for the I'm
the trendy football.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Oh okay, right, okay, I think we're finding that out.
The question my progess is looking at me going no,
not foreir Okay, right, let's just expecting that one. I
don't have the answer for him anyway. Okay, here's a
few questions and texts in it as well. Hi guys.
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For those who are having trouble doing their exercises today,
one of my is my mantras is I can always
quit tomorrow. I do this now. It's mine and no
one can take it away from me. I'm trying to
I can't quite get my head around that. It's like
for one of my mattresses. I can always oh, okay,
look I can okay. They thank you giving up and say, well,
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maybe I'll quit tomorrow, but I'll do something today that's
short term, the immediate, short term just getting your feet
in the shoes and out the door.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Is it one hundred percent? It's what I used to
do at the start? Is I just go for a
walk for ten minutes, you know, and turn around and
come back. You know, I had to get home, So
there's just a real quick, easy way of doing a
twenty minute walk. That's how I started. I didn't I
didn't try over complicate it. I just I just walked.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Actually, is that I actually wonder if that is one
of the keys. I mean, obviously, if you're maybe the
younger you are, you're more more aggressive you can be
with getting to the gym. And things like that. But
do a lot of people overcook it at the start,
they sort of think, I've got to join a gym.
I'll get assessed and I'll get a program done, and
I go hard. And before they not after a few
weeks they're like, oh God, as opposed to you putting
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on your shoes out the door for a few minutes.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yep, people over complicated. You don't it's it's actually quite simple.
You just got to move a little. Like an example,
we I did a I spoke to a whole bunch
of social workers on Friday night and I talked about
starting and what we have to understand is that, you know,
I've visited a lot of hospitals. The last I went
to visit a guy last year who had given up.
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His wife had asked me to come visit him in Middlemore.
They weighed him on the bed wad close to four
hundred kilos. The system can't do anything for him. Is
they make him comfortable till he dies? You know? So
him and many other people that I visited, a lot
of them have never made it out. That's the thing
about this. We all take our health for granted, eat
more crap, drink more crap. Do no exercise think it
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won't happen to us until it does. And what we
have to understand is those people, every single one of them,
they all had one thing in common. They would give
absolutely anything to have an opportunity to go back in
time and start their journeys. So if you're here and
you're listening to this and you have it, you have
that chance and opportunity, don't waste it.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Are so there are times when basically you're look, you've
let yourself go on whatever's happened. I don't mean let
youse have go because that implies blame, but the way
things have gone in your life, you've got to a
situation and there is no turnaround. For some people.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Sometimes that damage you've done to your body may one
day be irreparable. So it's like life is so short,
you know, don't waste it. You know. We helped the
guy Matt, who could tell you exactly how many tiles
were on his neighbour's roof, the pattern and how many
were broken because he was trapped in that house. He
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was stuck there for I don't know, maybe fifteen twenty years,
never left. The nest was in the hospital and he's
now one of our mentors at BBN.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
How the hell did he turn that around?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Started? When he first turned up, he was on a
walking from.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
His bed ridden and obviously that's why you could count
the tires and tell you all this.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
So all his life was through his bedroom window, so
you know. And he finally his sisters brought him to BBM.
He was on a walker that had you know, the
seat that you could sit down, and took him ages
just to get from the car park into our facility.
And all of our gyms are free, the community ones,
and by bit he's been going for three years. He
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actually went to hospital had major hard issues just recently
and the doctor said to him, if you hadn't started
three years ago, you wouldn't have made it. Yeah, you know,
your heart's at ten percent. So how did it? So?
His sister obviously his sister's very very amazing family, Matt,
if you're listening, you we love you brother, and brought
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him along.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And what did he want to come or what was
he just?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
He wanted he wanted to change. That's where it starts.
You know. We get so many family members and friends
reaching out on behalf of someone else. But you know,
unless it's that person messaging me, there's nothing we can
do really.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So how how what was the early stages of his
journey to feeling that going from here, I'm here too.
I believe I can do something now too, you know,
hope and belief and all that thing kicking in.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah. I think the thing with us at BBM is
that all of our boot camps are not led by
conventional like stereotypical personal trainers. You know, it's people who
have lived experience and that it's been We have mentors
that have been with us for a little bit, so
it doesn't seem so far away. Sometimes when people are starting,
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they're looking at a train and go, there's no way
I can get there, you know. But if you have
people that are mentoring and that they're part of it,
it's all on their journeys, but you can see. You know,
we've got James who's one of it, works for us
full time now. He's lost one hundred and thirty kilos.
He was close to three hundred kiloes. Couldn't stand for
five minutes. Sean Fitzpatrick's nephew. Actually I met Seanan. He
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was broke down because you know, you're watching your nephew
die a slow death before you, and he's one hundred
and thirty kilos. He couldn't hardly stand. He's now doing burpies,
and so when he's talking to our members, they believe it. Yeah,
they said, it's one of our sayings, and our mattress
is saying it's possible.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I must say, I wonder how often. I mean, because
when you get if you do go do a gym class,
most of the people are taking those classes look like,
you know, they're rocking and rolling. I wonder how many
people I mean that that would be in some ways
a bit overwhelming, because you think, oh my god, I'll
never get anywhere near there.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
For some gyms, I mean, I've been on my journey
a long time. If I go to like a you know,
a normal gym, I still feel like, oh man, I
don't belong here. So you think about even James had
took him. I think he came and sat outside in
the car park at our place for about five times
just watching before we had the courage to walk in.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Actually I might I'm going to take some calls now,
but I might dig into the fact if you're someone
outside of if you're not that person, But you've got
someone in your life you want to help. I mean,
because that's a challenge in itself. You're talking about as
Matt's sister who brought him in, and what you do
if you're worried about someone, I mean, how you have
those conversations. We'll dig into that in just a moment,
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but let's take some calls Bryce, Hello, how are you good? Thanks? Mate?
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
I just talked about my journey and I've been health
free for the last probably almost a year now, not
fifty five, fifty six. It's taken them with fifty years
to figure it out, is going to be healthy?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
What triggered it for you? Then? When did you realize that?
And why?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Well? What trigger?
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Probably just too much alcohol, too much drugs, just in
all that ship.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, Okay, we're trying, we're trying not to swear on
that's a dump it but let's not say any naughty words.
But I'm sure everyone will forgive you that in the moment.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, I just got sick and tired of being sick
and tired, you know, waking up and then you know
what I mean. And about a year ago, Mate said
to me, so were going to help you and we did.
Like and I've got my diet under the control, and
I wanted I've always wanted to go to the gym.
I never had the courage to go and walk into
a gym. And I've been going to the gym for
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almost a year now, every second day.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
How did you get what? What?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
What? What?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
What changed? You were too scared to go in and
then you did?
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Just just making that, just just having the courage to
walk through the door is the hardest thing, I think,
mm hm, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
But what about keeping it up? What about keeping up? Bryce?
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Yeah, well, I've just come from the gym and like
the pro saying, find something to focus on, and for me,
it's just just staying healthy for my Kurds, for my family. Yeah,
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you know, so am I wife, you know, she she
she jumped on the band lagon with me because she
and I couldn't do it by myself. So she helped
me for the first eight months. You know, she jumped
on the healthy diet as well. So we're both in
a better position where we are now. And like you said,
we treat ourselves once a week. I know's just something
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nice and I get all the aches and pains or
inflammation because I was taken you know, vol time for
bloody gas and all that sort of stuff. And since
I've been on this jurne, I've you know, I've been
pretty I'm I'm quite amazed at what I've achieved, what
we're both achieved.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Do you push each other out the door?
Speaker 6 (25:13):
What do you mean pushing it?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I mean, you know, you don't feel like doing it,
so your wife says, come on, let's go, We're going.
We're doing this, because that's sometimes quite helpful.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
M I not really. She she doesn't come to the
gym with me. She stays home and does a plarties
and she walks the dogs twice a day, so you know,
and yeah, but you know, it's just yeah, you've.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Got only Bryce.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Actually, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
The other thing is I think that the point you
made even when you started your journey, I think people
underestimate the power of just putting on some shoes and
going for a walk. In fact, I've got a family
member who's lost you know, probably twenty kilos I think,
and he went to nutritionness. But she's she's just got
them walking and he's walking. She said, I have to
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walk quite quickly. It's uncomfortably fast, but it's half an
hour a day, and I've watch him what I ate
and he's just and the weight has plowed off because
he's genetically he's naturally got a few muscles anyway.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yeah, you know, when people start, they think they've got
to go start running and training for a marathon, you know,
simply walk. And my secret weapon when I plateaued. As
you get closer to your natural weight, the weight loss
slows down and it gets a lot harder, like those
last ten five killers are very hard to lose. So
what I did was after my high intensity training, like
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whether it was boxing or like a CrossFit session, I
straight away just go for a walk right after. My
heart rate's already in a fat burning zone and I
can maintain it by just walking. There's no warm up
because I'm already warm, So that whole twenty thirty minute
forty minute walk is all fat burning.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
How fast are you walking when you're doing that.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
At a pace where you know I can still talk,
but I'm just a little bit out of breath.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I think that's the perfect description of how you're supposed
to do it. You should be a bit out of breath,
but you can still extending on there with a conversation.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
And you know, as you get fitter, you'll start jogging.
It's like those you know, there's annoying guys that when
you train with them and that you're you're jogging and
they can still talk the whole time. That's so you
know you're getting fitter when you can jog and hold
a conversation at the same time.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, we've got a lot of texts coming in. This
one's from Let's see I. It's science from Catherine Kura.
I've been watching I've watched the impressive evolution of BBM
SIT from Afar. I have a growing child with a
disability and also play and also play football to keep
my mental health well. Over the last few years, I've
been plagued with injury and I'm struggling to keep starting
again injuries. My daughter is my why. But lifting in
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transfers are difficult with shoulder tears and a second ac
or surgery coming up, and wondering how to motivate myself
from bottom to top in an aging body where a
Kira's lifestyle. Thanks Catherine, so she's got her daughter as
a why. But she's still struggling with motivation. What are
you What would your words of advice be for Catherine.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, that's a tough one. I mean you've got to
do it for yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
What I have battling injury, Yeah, sound of it isn't Yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Know, jumping in the pool, just doing something like water walking.
Just do something that makes you feel better. Uh. And
I've said I've had something similar where we've helped a
lady who was the care of her disabled daughter and
she's been with us a long time. And even with
other other families we've helped, and what I've said to
them when they're going through tough times and it's and
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this is I mean, this is hard to sort of take.
And as I've said the same thing to a husband
who who had children and he was not wanting to,
you know, continue on his health journey. Who's going to
look after your children if you pass? You know, if
you if you pass early, just imagine that you know
(28:55):
what's going to happen. You know, I said this to
the dad who's gonna who's going to raise your kids?
Who's putting through?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
What's giving up? Was he? And what and how to
have what about.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
That well he got started again. Yeah, God, it's it's
about mindset. But be like to just be kind to yourself.
You know you're going through you're going through a whole
bunch of issues. It's a tough life, so be kind
to yourself and just try and start slow, get in
the water, start doing laps, and bit by bit build
on it, you know, and maybe getting into the gym
(29:26):
and you know, come into our gym with you if
you're closed, but getting into a gym to work on
some strength, you know, getting getting some you know, doing
some weights that that will definitely help in terms of
you know, the transferring into the into the cars and
then to the bed and all that type stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Right, it's we'll be back in just a moment. We
need to take a moment. It's twenty one minutes to
five with Dave Ltelli from bb and Motivation and go
and support his program, by the way, the bbnprogram dot
com just click on donate. He hasn't asked me to
say that, by the way, so it's me just reminding
you that if you want to support us what the
work Dave's doing, then that'd be awesome. Just coming up
(30:01):
to twenty minutes to five News Talk said be yes,
I'm with Dave Littelli from BBM Motivation. The BBM program,
by the way, is where you track them down. And
actually just before you go to well we've got just
before you go to a caller, you mentioned one person
who hasn't been part of your program, being brought in
by a sister and things. What is your advice to
(30:21):
I mean, you know the expression you lead a horse
to water, but you can't make it drink or whatever
it is, but is what do you do? What's your
advice to people who are concerned about someone in their
lives who hasn't recognized that they need to get cracking.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Oh man, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, as you know, it's hard.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You know, we always say, you know to be around
good people, but you can't choose your family. But you
can't be the example. So a lot of the times
I think you can't just shove it down their throat
that they have to want it, end of it day,
they have to want it. If they don't, you can't
do anything. But you can lead by example, you know
you can. You can do little things that they might
(31:01):
see and that they might want to join you one
day you know, that's all you can.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Do, So don't lecture them.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
In other words, you're just going to drive drive them
more away from you.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, and hey, I'm going for a walk. Do you
want to come with me around the block before I
carry on? Yeah, something like that. That is that simple,
Just that simple.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
But but make sure you're you know a lot of it.
It's like you've got to be on your journey too,
You've got it's not about having a six pack, it's
about trying to be healthy, doing the best you can.
So you have to be on that too before you
can start giving advice to your family or friend.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, that's funny. I think for someone saying, well, their
motivation was to look good naked, that's quite a high.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
But yeah, well, you know, you don't need these body
scans and a pet to do all these fat testing.
And that's just like you're saying, to ship off naked.
Look in the mirror.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, and a certain you know, and a certain light, yeah,
the right kind of light. Don't have those filorians on
too strongly. Let's take some more calls. Phil, Hello, good,
I he you're both doing good. Thanks good, thanks bro.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
Excellent. But first of all, I just want to say,
figure up to David Mattelid's a guy mad and respected
for quite a while with what he's doing in his journey,
that he's taken and that hope you can hear me
and finally and that I'm.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Just on a walk myself.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I still cleared Fiel good on you excellent.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
He said something that struck me while I've been on
this walk and listening is that about time, you know,
and lying there at the end and thinking I wish
I had the time to go back and do it,
and I do it all differently because I see a
psychologist because I have problems with mental health and alcohol.
And that's one of the things that he said to
me is that people lying in the bed, you know,
(32:45):
at the end and thinking, oh, I wish i'd so
I'll just get him a breast. Sorry. So that's important.
I'm trying to get it all on you.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
It sounds like you're judging your walk about right. You
just need to take a breath there around again, but
you're still conversational.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
You're setting a great place there, bro.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Yeah. So that's all good and what I want to
And the thing I was thinking was like, so, yeah,
I didn't see the point of going on walks when
he was trying to get me to go and walk
because I just wanted to sit on the couch and
just disappear from the world. Because of my mental health,
I now enjoy going for a walk and I feel
better afterwards. But and I think too, that you've got
to like yourself too. Once you learn to like yourself
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and you think I'm worth it, I'm worth getting up,
I'm worth making myself better and having good health, and
there you're on your way. Because if you're that positive
mindset instead of getting into the negative mindset of saying, oh, geez,
look at me, I'm just and there, why don't you
learn to like yourself, allow yourself to like yourself so
you can go forward.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, be your own biggest fand not your biggest critic
on Good on your brother.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Good on your felt. Well, keep it up, mate, And
sounds like you got that pace just about right. A
little bit shorter breath, still talking. Here's one here, Hi.
I was one hundred and twenty seven kilos after being
on medication from one hundred and twelve, I started walking.
Jude a new smart watch walking awesome. That's interesting. Actually,
the old technology. I'm now walking fourteen thousand steps per
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days a minimum and down to one hundred and six
kilos loving the new me off off for medications, I'm
seventy six. That's amazing. That's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
A that's so good, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, what about people who do feel isolated? I mean,
if you are and I think Phil's head moments when
he felt on his own and he had to back himself.
But if you're really on your own, you feel, I mean,
how do you get that? Who would you talk to?
Where would you go? I mean if because because it's
good to have people with you, isn't it? So with
the BBM program BIG's Family.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
It's it's tough. You know, we say to be around
good people, which at the start of your journey that
might be you know, you might be alone at the start,
you know, but you start attracting those same kinds of people,
you know, towards you. You start you know, looking up
on Facebook, finding different groups, walking groups, jogging groups, whatever
it is, or you know, if there's a BBN close
to you. That That was why we started BBM because
(35:06):
I understood that not everyone had good people around them
that were all in the same waka rowing together. So
that's why we started it. You know, I started at
one tree hill and then I walked back down, walked
back down the hill and joined you know, got everyone else.
That's what it's about, because you know, who wants to
be at the top of a mountain by themselves?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
This is from another field, this one. It says, I
outmost respect for this guy, and I think the work
he does is fantastic. That's you, Dave. In fact, if
he has anything going in christ Church and needs people,
I love to work from and help him out, even
in a volunteer way, which does I mean, of course
you can't be everywhere around the country. Where are the
BBM progri.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
One day we will be in christ Church hopefully next year.
So we're expanding our from the couch program with total
health care. We're working and put it to We're working
with Nati toilet and that's that's going amazing. There's already
a witless for the next one. We're up in far
today and the results that are coming back it's I
(36:00):
mean it's not just the physical health we all know
that's going to happen, but the research we've had evaluation
from massive University of the past few years. They can't
believe the improvements in people's mental health. But I always
understand that's always going to because we always we all
crave connection, we all want to belong to something, and
that's what it's about. So BBM needs to be all
(36:21):
around the country and that's that's what we're working towards.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Is that a I mean that that is a huge
thing for people, isn't it If they're feeling isolated and
you get along and you see that there's someone who's
taking the class who looks like maybe they've gone through
a similar journey you're aiming for. You know, they're not
the epitome of sort.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Of we understand what it's like to start walking and
have us all back to have sore needs, to not
be able to put your shoes on, to not be
able to tie your shoelaceers. We understand all those things
because we've been there, so we can talk to it.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Right. We're going to be back in just a moment.
It's so coming out to ten to five News Talk
said b Yes, welcome back to the Health of Them
with Dave Latally and just a couple of texts before
we wrap it up. Actually one one here says oh
actually this one, Hi, Dave? How does one build discipline
or willpower? I have motivated but no follow through. Like
most women. I've tried many popular diets, most popular darts.
(37:09):
Only Keito works, but I'm miserable and I can't sustain it.
That's from Bridget.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, so if you're motivated to start again when you
when you, we all fall off. Nobody's perfect. So when
you fall off, don't beat yourself up. Don't say, oh here,
I have done it again. Like I said before, be
your own biggest fan, and just get back on the wagon.
That's that's It's that simple. Just get back on. And
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what you're trying to do is you're trying to lengthen
the time between the gaps between you falling off.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
How about how do you help your people in your
program when who deal with the food cravings we all
have for different foods they know they shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Yeah, we have a really good nutrition is called to hoodie,
and we have all different options. But again, you know,
when I started, what I would do is I'd have
one treat a week and I'd look forward to that
and it would it would keep me on track and
when I eat it, I would I would not feel guilty.
I feel man because you've earned it.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
If I do X, Y and Z, I can have and.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
It's yeah, and it's good for your mental health.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
But then it's just about understanding you know different you know,
different things you can have maybe amandarin or apple if
you've got a sugar craving, or you know sometimes you know,
we have people that are drinking like five liters of
coca day. You know, let's go to coke. Let's go
to coke zero.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Actually, because that is people think it's it's takeaway foods
and stuff like that, but.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
The sugary drink drinks is the worst.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
They're the worst. Just we've got a couple of minutes,
so you to finish off with.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah, well, I just wanted to leave you with these
pillars real quick of how I rebuilt my life and
help thousands of others is number one. Start, don't ever
think it. If you're listening to this and you're motivated,
start right now. Second thing is stay consistent, being consistent.
Understand no one's perfect. You get knocked down, you get up.
Third thing, be around good people. Life's hard enough. You
don't you know without being around people that drag you
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down all the time. And the last thing is no excuses,
you know, and the way a good example of no excuses.
One morning was pouring rain. I was training a guy
that way two hundred and seventy kilo training at the
Auckland Museum, and he texts me said, Dave, it's raining outside.
Are we still training? And I said, Phil, can I
ask you a question? Phil? Can I ask you a question?
Do you still go to KFC in the rain? To
(39:21):
live by all those matches, you have to have a
very strong wine purpose.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
That is, actually you're right with the weather a just
put on a rain coat whatever, do something.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Even like you know, if we've got five more minutes
left of training, everyone goes ah, but you know we'll
wait five minutes in line at KFC. And no problem.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
By the way, on the fizzy drinks, here's a message
on the fizzy drinks, just something backing that up. I
started going for a twenty minute run every day and
cut out energy drinks. Those were the only two changes
I made, and I lost eighteen kilos in eight months.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
It's massive. People don't understand all those energy drinks juice, cokes, sprites,
all those things. If you just just do that one thing,
cut fizzy and go for a walk. Yeah, massive changes.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
There's two really simple things. And I heartedly endors SAT
as well, because you know, even if you don't feel
like doing anything, put on those shoes, go for it
to walk, get some fresh air. Help you sleep at
night too, by the way, if you're walking during the
day because all that blue light. But that's another expert.
That's Alex Bartle. Next time we're on the sleepline it Hey, Dave,
thanks so much for coming in, mate, thanks for having me.
Go to bbmprogram dot com. You can do it if
(40:22):
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(40:44):
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and look, anyone who's interested in their own health and
making changes something. The hardest part of anyone's health journey,
(01:12):
anyone's health journey is not necessarily getting started, because it's
easy enough to look at yourself and go, God, I've
got to do something, but keeping it going once you
hit that sort of plateau or the novelty wears off,
you know, you might be doing well at the start.
You know, you like to look at what you see
in the mirror of the numbers and the scales dropping,
and then maybe you hit a patch where you're like, oh,
not much is happening at the moment. Maybe you've maybe
(01:35):
I don't know whether it's your actions or you're not
changing your diet, or you're just having that plateau that
people off an experience, and so you wonder whether that
routine's not really doing that much for you. So anyway,
experts say those plateaus can they tend to last maybe
a few weeks before you start seeing progress again. But
it's often the point where most people give up. So
you're gonna have a chat about motivation. How do you
(01:56):
maintain motivation, not just at the start, but always, And
what do you focus on? Do you focus on weight
loss or do you have another reason that you're trying
to get healthy? Let us know your thoughts and you'll
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for the HEALTHUB. Today's I don't know how describe actually,
so many ways we can describe him, but he's former boxer,
(02:18):
founder of a Butterbean Motivation otherwise known also as the
Butterbean I think and it's Dave Latali. Gooday, Dave, how
are you going?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Thanks? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, nice to see you. Hey. By the way, while
we're chatting with Dave, his charity the BBM Program and
that's spelt the American Way, so it's just the BBMP
R O g R a M dot com. They're always
looking to raise money to support their charitable works. And
if you're enjoying the chat with Dave, just go to
(02:48):
that website and click on the donate button and boom. Okay,
but Dave, let's remind everyone because I was. I was
chatting to my producer Tyra about and I was like,
so what was Dave's junny again? So where did he
start it? When did he finish? And I was thinking,
some people will they know you, they know your face,
they remember you from various times in your career and things.
(03:09):
But what's your health journey been? From you not being
happy to I mean, I don't know if you're happy
now even let's not assume, but to you know, to
you making changes in your life.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, my journey started in twenty fourteen, I was weighing
in at two hundred and ten kilos. But you know,
more than that, I was like a lot of people.
I was in bad shape physically but worse mentally. Yeah,
And I got off off out of a bed that
I could have really fed on, and I was staring
out at the roof thicked manche How did I stuff
(03:40):
my life up so badly and wind up here? Because
not only did I pile on the weight, but I'd lost,
you know, my family and businesses, and I was just,
you know, had nothing.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Was it getting to that stage? Was it that you
weren't happy right the way up to then? Or were
you sort of happy, happy, happy, then all of a
sudden you something went wrong and you got into a
worse state before you wanted to, you know, before it
hit you.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Look, life's a roller coaster and it's ups and downs.
My life has not been a normal life, and has
been some really mighty lows and some high highs. But
you know, I guess you'd call it a rock bottom.
You know, that was and I've had a few and
hopefully touch wooden Net no more. But that was the
point where I knew I had to do something about it.
You know, I desperately wanted my children back, and to
(04:28):
do that, I knew I had to be better.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Is that also a reminder, even just in the context
of my introduction, is that, you know people, I think
a lot of people think that, you know, you make
a change in the you start acting on it, and
then all of a sudden everything's right. But the reality is,
as you just said, it's a roller coaster. So twenty fourteen,
what was your rock bottom? But it's not like everything's
just this curve that goes happy, Dave.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
You know, look, life's tough, especially nowadays, but you know,
life's filled with roadblocks and obstacles and speed bumps, and
you constantly get knocked down and you're right at the
start where you said that, you know, start. It's actually
the hardest thing staying consistent. That's one of the hardest things,
just to keep on it. And people, you know a
lot of the times they start too fast. You know,
(05:13):
they want to, they get motivated and they want to
you know, they're all one hundred percent into it, one
thousand miles an hour. Everything's hashtag healthy living. They're putting
everything up that they're eating chicken and broccoli on all
their Instagram and social media papers. But you can't maintain that.
So you know, what I've understood is that you've got
to build a slide foundation to work from and understand
that be kind to yourself. You're going to get knocked down,
(05:36):
but you've got to keep getting up. You fall off
the wagon, get back on. That's what it's about.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Do you need a major motivator or do you need
I guess the reason I'm asking this question so you know,
I'm I try and keep myself in shape. But what
I if I don't feel like keeping it up, All
I tell myself is that if I go for this walk,
I'm going to feel a little bit better. And that's
sort of my goal is just to take a small
in fact, just to take a small step if I
(06:02):
don't feel like it. As opposed to you know, people
are like, I'm going to become you know, I'm not
in shape, I'm going to become mister middle aged New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
We try and say to people like, you know, we're
very lucky here in New Zealand. We're blessed with some
amazing walks that you can do. That's literally, I mean,
I lost one hundred kilos and kept most of it off.
And how it started was no gimmicks. I got up
off that bed I could have fed on. I went
for a walk around one tree hill. That's how my
journey started. And I stopped drinking fizzy drinks and eating
bread at night. It was that simple. As I started
(06:34):
feeling better and you know, liking what I saw in
the mirror, like you were saying, I started doing a
bit more, you know, And it's just trying to stay
consistent with it. And for me, I always talk about
having a really strong why, and it sounds airy fairy,
but it actually does work. And I really encourage people
who don't understand or don't know what their wire is
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is to write down a list of five things that
mean a lot to you, and from that list, try
to choose one and put that one thing everywhere, you know,
until it's imprinted in your heart and in your mind.
You have to write it down so you can you
can look at it when when you fall off. You know,
for me, when I started, it was it was I'd
imagine being at the airport with my arms out waiting
for my children, and and the embrace, you know, there's
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plenty of nights I was crying myself to sleep, and
I just keep thinking of that moment, and that's what
kept pushing me forward. That's what kept me getting up.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Actually, as vanity ever work as a why, whatever it is,
you look at them and you're like, I want to
look awesome, and yeah, sure, I tend to think that
that's going to work up to a point.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, everyone's WI is different and you can add multiple
you know, our why now my wife still my family.
I got all my kids back, new wife and son.
But it's now it's helping other people. That's that's our why.
But you get a mult sometimes a why. It doesn't
have to be a deep meaningful one. You know, when
you're trying to get up at five in the morning
to go train, it can be just af I train,
I'll have a nice coffee after, I have a nice
porridge after.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
So actually that's not a bad way either.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
It's like whatever it is, it's you just need that deep, burning,
deep down one for those real tough days, you know,
we you just feel like giving up.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
What's the what's the what? What do you in your experience?
What are the what are the most convincing motivations are
there is there are there themes to what people's best
whys are Yours is a pretty powerful one, and I mean,
I'll be honest. For me, I like to I want
to be fit because I want to stay looking. There's
not vanity though. I actually just want to be around
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for my kids as long as possible. That's the ultimate one.
I just think if I lose my mobility in the
years and the decades to come, and I'm not able
to get around and enjoy life as much for my
kids and I don't know if I have grandkids or whatever,
but that's it for me. I think that that's quite
a good why.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
One underd It's powerful, you know because a lot of
the times we need that external one because we give
up on ourselves so easily. You know, we give up
on ourselves so easily. We put ourselves last. But we
need to have you know. So that's why I having
it as an external thing of your children. But it's
you know, it works. You need something with a very
strong why, you can overcome anything and it will always
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get your back on the wagon. This is where you'll
know if it's not your why when you fall off
and you think of it, and it doesn't get your
started again. If you fall if you fall off, or
you have a real bad day and you think and
I can't go on, you know, even like if you're
thinking of actually giving up on everything, if you think
of this, it should always be able to get you
back on. If it doesn't, it's not your why you
need to revisit your lips.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
How often do you see people's change reasons? Because they
must evolve. So if you're a let's say you're a
man or a woman in your twenties or early thirties,
you might not have a family yet. You might be
thinking maybe I'd love to, but you just you know,
you don't have that quite the same external thing that
you might have had when you start a dave.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Everyone's different and everyone and I always say to it
doesn't have to be your children.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
What's an example of what you say? People who don't
have those family connections maybe that well, it's not about.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
That, you know for some people always being able to
drive themselves because I can't think kind of steering wheel.
You know. We had a guy yesterday, we did an
event yesterday where we collab with health end z I
couldn't believe we're actually co labbing with Health New Zealand.
But a guy that's been with us, and it was
the first time in twenty five years he's been able
to put on shoes himself. It's first time in twenty
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five years he's worn shoes, you know, And that is
one of his things, one of the goals he had
being able to jump on a plane, which he hadn't
He had n't jumped on a plane since he was
deported here back in nineteen ninety one. So there's all
these other just amazing stories. And again I was whatever
works for.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You, yeah, what about okay? So what is it that
causes those you know, what is it that causes the challenges?
You know, the plateaus we talk about you get so far?
Is it simply the why? Or is it what are
the other things that can get on top of people? Now?
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I think it's you know, there's a difference between motivation
and discipline. So motivation gets your started, but you need
to be you need to have that discipline to keep
you going. And again it's like, you know, people are
always in a rush. It's it's we're not trying to
do the biggest weight you know, Biggest Loser, it's not
all about weight loss. It's about being healthy and happy
and being able to maintain that.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
You Actually, while we're on that, those Biggest Loser competitions TV,
reality TV and things like that, what's your take on
that stuff? Because they do well well. I think the
news has got some stories of people who've ended up
winning these competitions and then falling to bits. What's your
take on the reality TV? Does it help or hinder people?
(11:36):
Or is it just entertainment? Don't take it too seriously.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
It's just entertainment. But it's I mean, that's extreme. You know,
they're taking things to the extreme. The main thing is,
you know, you've got to be able to maintain it.
And that's why I always say, you know, you build
that foundation. You know, those things. Challenges are good to
get you started, you know, to maybe to get you
off the wagon, get you off the couch and get
your started. But you need you need something, You need
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discipline to keep you going on this because it's not
about just twelve weeks. It's about the rest of our lives.
What's so if people.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Are getting that motivation to get started, I mean, what
if you were advising people what it's not a warning,
but when is that time likely to kick in? Because
you'll get someone who comes along and they'll be like,
Dave Man, it's fantastic, you know what. I looked at
myself and I thought I've got to do something, and
I went for a walk and it was great, and
then I decided, I've got to I'm going to cut
out drinking this soft drink at this time. And I've
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got one a couple of things. I'm walking, but one
feeling great. They're two or three weeks in, what do
you What do you say to them? Because you know
that at some stage they're going to be like, I've
falling off the wagon or whatever.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
We start sewing those seeds pretty early because you know
a lot of our guys when they'll start, like are
from the couch program, say with wellping people just started
literally getting off the couch. Their first week, they might
lose ten to fifteen kilos. So we're trying to tell them,
don't expect that every single week because a lot of
that is fluid. You know, you just got and started,
so you know, we just get We talk about being
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consistent and you've got to It's like This is not fad,
This is not a gimmick. This is the new way
we live. This is a lifestyle. Part of that lifestyle
is having a treat once a week. Yeah, you know
what I mean. It's not going cold turkey. It's you know,
you might have a treat once or twice a week,
but if you're treating yourself every day, that's not a treat,
that's just the way you eat.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Is that an important part of the whole journey is
that if you are making that. I mean, because as
I mentioned, you know, sometimes if you just set yourself
a really small goal, it makes it easier to achieve more.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I remember that this is a silly anecdote, but my mum,
if she wanted me to do some work in the garden,
she didn't tell me that she wanted me to mow
the lawn, trim the hedge, paint the brick wall, do that.
All she'd do is like, it's just a little job
out there. Can you go and do that? And then
once I'm outside, I'll be like, oh, what else to
need done? Before you know, I've done all the jobs
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that I never thought about. Is there something about you
know that versus realizing that this is a lifestyle change,
because that's big picture.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
So you have your ultimate goal, but you're always good
to have those small goals along the way. We always say,
bit by bit, bit by batll bit by bit, we'll
still get you up that that mountain.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You know. Hey, look, we'd love your calls. We're with
Dave Ltelli. He's the founder of the BBB BBM. Sorry
I've just too many initials BBM program. By the way,
if you want to support Dave's charity, it's the BBM program.
It's p R O g R a M dot com.
You can go click on the donate button. But we'd
love to hear from you whether you've got any questions.
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You might be seeking a bit of inspiration from David,
just in terms of someone who's been through the journey himself.
If you've got it, you know you've got something you
want to run by him. But also if you want
to share with us what's worked for you or what
are you struggling with, let's have a chat about it.
Eight hundred eighty ten and eighty text nine two nine
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son were keep shining on.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Me.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Oh I love bit of Elvis to get us going
where this is the health hub.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
We're with Dave Lutelly. He's a form of boxer, formed
of rugby league play, founder of Butan butter Bean motivation,
and we're talking about what motivation works for you or
if you've got any questions for Dave, or you want
to give us the benefit of your experience, because the
whole question about motivation is it's easy. Maybe it's easy
to get that first motivation to get off the couch
or do whatever. You know, you've decided you're not happy
with where you are, but how do you keep it going?
(15:41):
What are the struggles you've had and how did you
overcome them? We'd love the benefit of your experience. Were
any questions you've got for Dave Steven Hello there?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
If you have you have the results for the I'm
the trendy football.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Oh okay, right, okay, I think we're finding that out.
The question my progess is looking at me going no,
not foreir Okay, right, let's just expecting that one. I
don't have the answer for him anyway. Okay, here's a
few questions and texts in it as well. Hi guys.
(16:21):
For those who are having trouble doing their exercises today,
one of my is my mantras is I can always
quit tomorrow. I do this now. It's mine and no
one can take it away from me. I'm trying to
I can't quite get my head around that. It's like
for one of my mattresses. I can always oh, okay,
look I can okay. They thank you giving up and say, well,
(16:42):
maybe I'll quit tomorrow, but I'll do something today that's
short term, the immediate, short term just getting your feet
in the shoes and out the door.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Is it one hundred percent? It's what I used to
do at the start? Is I just go for a
walk for ten minutes, you know, and turn around and
come back. You know, I had to get home, So
there's just a real quick, easy way of doing a
twenty minute walk. That's how I started. I didn't I
didn't try over complicate it. I just I just walked.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Actually, is that I actually wonder if that is one
of the keys. I mean, obviously, if you're maybe the
younger you are, you're more more aggressive you can be
with getting to the gym. And things like that. But
do a lot of people overcook it at the start,
they sort of think, I've got to join a gym.
I'll get assessed and I'll get a program done, and
I go hard. And before they not after a few
weeks they're like, oh God, as opposed to you putting
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on your shoes out the door for a few minutes.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yep, people over complicated. You don't it's it's actually quite simple.
You just got to move a little. Like an example,
we I did a I spoke to a whole bunch
of social workers on Friday night and I talked about
starting and what we have to understand is that, you know,
I've visited a lot of hospitals. The last I went
to visit a guy last year who had given up.
(17:52):
His wife had asked me to come visit him in Middlemore.
They weighed him on the bed wad close to four
hundred kilos. The system can't do anything for him. Is
they make him comfortable till he dies? You know? So
him and many other people that I visited, a lot
of them have never made it out. That's the thing
about this. We all take our health for granted, eat
more crap, drink more crap. Do no exercise think it
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won't happen to us until it does. And what we
have to understand is those people, every single one of them,
they all had one thing in common. They would give
absolutely anything to have an opportunity to go back in
time and start their journeys. So if you're here and
you're listening to this and you have it, you have
that chance and opportunity, don't waste it.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Are so there are times when basically you're look, you've
let yourself go on whatever's happened. I don't mean let
youse have go because that implies blame, but the way
things have gone in your life, you've got to a
situation and there is no turnaround. For some people.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Sometimes that damage you've done to your body may one
day be irreparable. So it's like life is so short,
you know, don't waste it. You know. We helped the
guy Matt, who could tell you exactly how many tiles
were on his neighbour's roof, the pattern and how many
were broken because he was trapped in that house. He
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was stuck there for I don't know, maybe fifteen twenty years,
never left. The nest was in the hospital and he's
now one of our mentors at BBN.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
How the hell did he turn that around?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Started? When he first turned up, he was on a
walking from.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
His bed ridden and obviously that's why you could count
the tires and tell you all this.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
So all his life was through his bedroom window, so
you know. And he finally his sisters brought him to BBM.
He was on a walker that had you know, the
seat that you could sit down, and took him ages
just to get from the car park into our facility.
And all of our gyms are free, the community ones,
and by bit he's been going for three years. He
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actually went to hospital had major hard issues just recently
and the doctor said to him, if you hadn't started
three years ago, you wouldn't have made it. Yeah, you know,
your heart's at ten percent. So how did it? So?
His sister obviously his sister's very very amazing family, Matt,
if you're listening, you we love you brother, and brought
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him along.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
And what did he want to come or what was
he just?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
He wanted he wanted to change. That's where it starts.
You know. We get so many family members and friends
reaching out on behalf of someone else. But you know,
unless it's that person messaging me, there's nothing we can
do really.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So how how what was the early stages of his
journey to feeling that going from here, I'm here too.
I believe I can do something now too, you know,
hope and belief and all that thing kicking in.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yeah. I think the thing with us at BBM is
that all of our boot camps are not led by
conventional like stereotypical personal trainers. You know, it's people who
have lived experience and that it's been We have mentors
that have been with us for a little bit, so
it doesn't seem so far away. Sometimes when people are starting,
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they're looking at a train and go, there's no way
I can get there, you know. But if you have
people that are mentoring and that they're part of it,
it's all on their journeys, but you can see. You know,
we've got James who's one of it, works for us
full time now. He's lost one hundred and thirty kilos.
He was close to three hundred kiloes. Couldn't stand for
five minutes. Sean Fitzpatrick's nephew. Actually I met Seanan. He
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was broke down because you know, you're watching your nephew
die a slow death before you, and he's one hundred
and thirty kilos. He couldn't hardly stand. He's now doing burpies,
and so when he's talking to our members, they believe it. Yeah,
they said, it's one of our sayings, and our mattress
is saying it's possible.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I must say, I wonder how often. I mean, because
when you get if you do go do a gym class,
most of the people are taking those classes look like,
you know, they're rocking and rolling. I wonder how many
people I mean that that would be in some ways
a bit overwhelming, because you think, oh my god, I'll
never get anywhere near there.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
For some gyms, I mean, I've been on my journey
a long time. If I go to like a you know,
a normal gym, I still feel like, oh man, I
don't belong here. So you think about even James had
took him. I think he came and sat outside in
the car park at our place for about five times
just watching before we had the courage to walk in.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Actually I might I'm going to take some calls now,
but I might dig into the fact if you're someone
outside of if you're not that person, But you've got
someone in your life you want to help. I mean,
because that's a challenge in itself. You're talking about as
Matt's sister who brought him in, and what you do
if you're worried about someone, I mean, how you have
those conversations. We'll dig into that in just a moment,
(22:34):
but let's take some calls Bryce, Hello, how are you good? Thanks? Mate?
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
I just talked about my journey and I've been health
free for the last probably almost a year now, not
fifty five, fifty six. It's taken them with fifty years
to figure it out, is going to be healthy?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
What triggered it for you? Then? When did you realize that?
And why?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Well? What trigger?
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Probably just too much alcohol, too much drugs, just in
all that ship.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, Okay, we're trying, we're trying not to swear on
that's a dump it but let's not say any naughty words.
But I'm sure everyone will forgive you that in the moment.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Yeah, I just got sick and tired of being sick
and tired, you know, waking up and then you know
what I mean. And about a year ago, Mate said
to me, so were going to help you and we did.
Like and I've got my diet under the control, and
I wanted I've always wanted to go to the gym.
I never had the courage to go and walk into
a gym. And I've been going to the gym for
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almost a year now, every second day.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
How did you get what? What?
Speaker 4 (23:53):
What? What?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
What changed? You were too scared to go in and
then you did?
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Just just making that, just just having the courage to
walk through the door is the hardest thing, I think,
mm hm, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
But what about keeping it up? What about keeping up? Bryce?
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Yeah, well, I've just come from the gym and like
the pro saying, find something to focus on, and for me,
it's just just staying healthy for my Kurds, for my family. Yeah,
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you know, so am I wife, you know, she she
she jumped on the band lagon with me because she
and I couldn't do it by myself. So she helped
me for the first eight months. You know, she jumped
on the healthy diet as well. So we're both in
a better position where we are now. And like you said,
we treat ourselves once a week. I know's just something
(24:50):
nice and I get all the aches and pains or
inflammation because I was taken you know, vol time for
bloody gas and all that sort of stuff. And since
I've been on this jurne, I've you know, I've been
pretty I'm I'm quite amazed at what I've achieved, what
we're both achieved.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Do you push each other out the door?
Speaker 6 (25:13):
What do you mean pushing it?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I mean, you know, you don't feel like doing it,
so your wife says, come on, let's go, We're going.
We're doing this, because that's sometimes quite helpful.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
M I not really. She she doesn't come to the
gym with me. She stays home and does a plarties
and she walks the dogs twice a day, so you know,
and yeah, but you know, it's just yeah, you've.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Got only Bryce.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Actually, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
The other thing is I think that the point you
made even when you started your journey, I think people
underestimate the power of just putting on some shoes and
going for a walk. In fact, I've got a family
member who's lost you know, probably twenty kilos I think,
and he went to nutritionness. But she's she's just got
them walking and he's walking. She said, I have to
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walk quite quickly. It's uncomfortably fast, but it's half an
hour a day, and I've watch him what I ate
and he's just and the weight has plowed off because
he's genetically he's naturally got a few muscles anyway.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yeah, you know, when people start, they think they've got
to go start running and training for a marathon, you know,
simply walk. And my secret weapon when I plateaued. As
you get closer to your natural weight, the weight loss
slows down and it gets a lot harder, like those
last ten five killers are very hard to lose. So
what I did was after my high intensity training, like
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whether it was boxing or like a CrossFit session, I
straight away just go for a walk right after. My
heart rate's already in a fat burning zone and I
can maintain it by just walking. There's no warm up
because I'm already warm, So that whole twenty thirty minute
forty minute walk is all fat burning.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
How fast are you walking when you're doing that.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
At a pace where you know I can still talk,
but I'm just a little bit out of breath.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I think that's the perfect description of how you're supposed
to do it. You should be a bit out of breath,
but you can still extending on there with a conversation.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
And you know, as you get fitter, you'll start jogging.
It's like those you know, there's annoying guys that when
you train with them and that you're you're jogging and
they can still talk the whole time. That's so you
know you're getting fitter when you can jog and hold
a conversation at the same time.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, we've got a lot of texts coming in. This
one's from Let's see I. It's science from Catherine Kura.
I've been watching I've watched the impressive evolution of BBM
SIT from Afar. I have a growing child with a
disability and also play and also play football to keep
my mental health well. Over the last few years, I've
been plagued with injury and I'm struggling to keep starting
again injuries. My daughter is my why. But lifting in
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transfers are difficult with shoulder tears and a second ac
or surgery coming up, and wondering how to motivate myself
from bottom to top in an aging body where a
Kira's lifestyle. Thanks Catherine, so she's got her daughter as
a why. But she's still struggling with motivation. What are
you What would your words of advice be for Catherine.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Yeah, that's a tough one. I mean you've got to
do it for yourself.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
What I have battling injury, Yeah, sound of it isn't Yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Know, jumping in the pool, just doing something like water walking.
Just do something that makes you feel better. Uh. And
I've said I've had something similar where we've helped a
lady who was the care of her disabled daughter and
she's been with us a long time. And even with
other other families we've helped, and what I've said to
them when they're going through tough times and it's and
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this is I mean, this is hard to sort of take.
And as I've said the same thing to a husband
who who had children and he was not wanting to,
you know, continue on his health journey. Who's going to
look after your children if you pass? You know, if
you if you pass early, just imagine that you know
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what's going to happen. You know, I said this to
the dad who's gonna who's going to raise your kids?
Who's putting through?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
What's giving up? Was he? And what and how to
have what about.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
That well he got started again. Yeah, God, it's it's
about mindset. But be like to just be kind to yourself.
You know you're going through you're going through a whole
bunch of issues. It's a tough life, so be kind
to yourself and just try and start slow, get in
the water, start doing laps, and bit by bit build
on it, you know, and maybe getting into the gym
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and you know, come into our gym with you if
you're closed, but getting into a gym to work on
some strength, you know, getting getting some you know, doing
some weights that that will definitely help in terms of
you know, the transferring into the into the cars and
then to the bed and all that type stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Right, it's we'll be back in just a moment. We
need to take a moment. It's twenty one minutes to
five with Dave Ltelli from bb and Motivation and go
and support his program, by the way, the bbnprogram dot
com just click on donate. He hasn't asked me to
say that, by the way, so it's me just reminding
you that if you want to support us what the
work Dave's doing, then that'd be awesome. Just coming up
(30:01):
to twenty minutes to five News Talk said be yes,
I'm with Dave Littelli from BBM Motivation. The BBM program,
by the way, is where you track them down. And
actually just before you go to well we've got just
before you go to a caller, you mentioned one person
who hasn't been part of your program, being brought in
by a sister and things. What is your advice to
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I mean, you know the expression you lead a horse
to water, but you can't make it drink or whatever
it is, but is what do you do? What's your
advice to people who are concerned about someone in their
lives who hasn't recognized that they need to get cracking.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Oh man, it's hard.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, as you know, it's hard.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
You know, we always say, you know to be around
good people, but you can't choose your family. But you
can't be the example. So a lot of the times
I think you can't just shove it down their throat
that they have to want it, end of it day,
they have to want it. If they don't, you can't
do anything. But you can lead by example, you know
you can. You can do little things that they might
(31:01):
see and that they might want to join you one
day you know, that's all you can.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Do, So don't lecture them.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
In other words, you're just going to drive drive them
more away from you.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, and hey, I'm going for a walk. Do you
want to come with me around the block before I
carry on? Yeah, something like that. That is that simple,
Just that simple.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
But but make sure you're you know a lot of it.
It's like you've got to be on your journey too,
You've got it's not about having a six pack, it's
about trying to be healthy, doing the best you can.
So you have to be on that too before you
can start giving advice to your family or friend.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, that's funny. I think for someone saying, well, their
motivation was to look good naked, that's quite a high.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
But yeah, well, you know, you don't need these body
scans and a pet to do all these fat testing.
And that's just like you're saying, to ship off naked.
Look in the mirror.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, and a certain you know, and a certain light, yeah,
the right kind of light. Don't have those filorians on
too strongly. Let's take some more calls. Phil, Hello, good,
I he you're both doing good. Thanks good, thanks bro.
Speaker 7 (32:04):
Excellent. But first of all, I just want to say,
figure up to David Mattelid's a guy mad and respected
for quite a while with what he's doing in his journey,
that he's taken and that hope you can hear me
and finally and that I'm.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
Just on a walk myself.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I still cleared Fiel good on you excellent.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
He said something that struck me while I've been on
this walk and listening is that about time, you know,
and lying there at the end and thinking I wish
I had the time to go back and do it,
and I do it all differently because I see a
psychologist because I have problems with mental health and alcohol.
And that's one of the things that he said to
me is that people lying in the bed, you know,
(32:45):
at the end and thinking, oh, I wish i'd so
I'll just get him a breast. Sorry. So that's important.
I'm trying to get it all on you.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
It sounds like you're judging your walk about right. You
just need to take a breath there around again, but
you're still conversational.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
You're setting a great place there, bro.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Yeah. So that's all good and what I want to
And the thing I was thinking was like, so, yeah,
I didn't see the point of going on walks when
he was trying to get me to go and walk
because I just wanted to sit on the couch and
just disappear from the world. Because of my mental health,
I now enjoy going for a walk and I feel
better afterwards. But and I think too, that you've got
to like yourself too. Once you learn to like yourself
(33:24):
and you think I'm worth it, I'm worth getting up,
I'm worth making myself better and having good health, and
there you're on your way. Because if you're that positive
mindset instead of getting into the negative mindset of saying, oh, geez,
look at me, I'm just and there, why don't you
learn to like yourself, allow yourself to like yourself so
you can go forward.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, be your own biggest fand not your biggest critic
on Good on your brother.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Good on your felt. Well, keep it up, mate, And
sounds like you got that pace just about right. A
little bit shorter breath, still talking. Here's one here, Hi.
I was one hundred and twenty seven kilos after being
on medication from one hundred and twelve, I started walking.
Jude a new smart watch walking awesome. That's interesting. Actually,
the old technology. I'm now walking fourteen thousand steps per
(34:09):
days a minimum and down to one hundred and six
kilos loving the new me off off for medications, I'm
seventy six. That's amazing. That's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
A that's so good, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Yeah, what about people who do feel isolated? I mean,
if you are and I think Phil's head moments when
he felt on his own and he had to back himself.
But if you're really on your own, you feel, I mean,
how do you get that? Who would you talk to?
Where would you go? I mean if because because it's
good to have people with you, isn't it? So with
the BBM program BIG's Family.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
It's it's tough. You know, we say to be around
good people, which at the start of your journey that
might be you know, you might be alone at the start,
you know, but you start attracting those same kinds of people,
you know, towards you. You start you know, looking up
on Facebook, finding different groups, walking groups, jogging groups, whatever
it is, or you know, if there's a BBN close
to you. That That was why we started BBM because
(35:06):
I understood that not everyone had good people around them
that were all in the same waka rowing together. So
that's why we started it. You know, I started at
one tree hill and then I walked back down, walked
back down the hill and joined you know, got everyone else.
That's what it's about, because you know, who wants to
be at the top of a mountain by themselves?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
This is from another field, this one. It says, I
outmost respect for this guy, and I think the work
he does is fantastic. That's you, Dave. In fact, if
he has anything going in christ Church and needs people,
I love to work from and help him out, even
in a volunteer way, which does I mean, of course
you can't be everywhere around the country. Where are the
BBM progri.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
One day we will be in christ Church hopefully next year.
So we're expanding our from the couch program with total
health care. We're working and put it to We're working
with Nati toilet and that's that's going amazing. There's already
a witless for the next one. We're up in far
today and the results that are coming back it's I
(36:00):
mean it's not just the physical health we all know
that's going to happen, but the research we've had evaluation
from massive University of the past few years. They can't
believe the improvements in people's mental health. But I always
understand that's always going to because we always we all
crave connection, we all want to belong to something, and
that's what it's about. So BBM needs to be all
(36:21):
around the country and that's that's what we're working towards.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Is that a I mean that that is a huge
thing for people, isn't it If they're feeling isolated and
you get along and you see that there's someone who's
taking the class who looks like maybe they've gone through
a similar journey you're aiming for. You know, they're not
the epitome of sort.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Of we understand what it's like to start walking and
have us all back to have sore needs, to not
be able to put your shoes on, to not be
able to tie your shoelaceers. We understand all those things
because we've been there, so we can talk to it.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Right. We're going to be back in just a moment.
It's so coming out to ten to five News Talk
said b Yes, welcome back to the Health of Them
with Dave Latally and just a couple of texts before
we wrap it up. Actually one one here says oh
actually this one, Hi, Dave? How does one build discipline
or willpower? I have motivated but no follow through. Like
most women. I've tried many popular diets, most popular darts.
(37:09):
Only Keito works, but I'm miserable and I can't sustain it.
That's from Bridget.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, so if you're motivated to start again when you
when you, we all fall off. Nobody's perfect. So when
you fall off, don't beat yourself up. Don't say, oh here,
I have done it again. Like I said before, be
your own biggest fan, and just get back on the wagon.
That's that's It's that simple. Just get back on. And
(37:34):
what you're trying to do is you're trying to lengthen
the time between the gaps between you falling off.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
How about how do you help your people in your
program when who deal with the food cravings we all
have for different foods they know they shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Yeah, we have a really good nutrition is called to hoodie,
and we have all different options. But again, you know,
when I started, what I would do is I'd have
one treat a week and I'd look forward to that
and it would it would keep me on track and
when I eat it, I would I would not feel guilty.
I feel man because you've earned it.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
If I do X, Y and Z, I can have and.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
It's yeah, and it's good for your mental health.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
But then it's just about understanding you know different you know,
different things you can have maybe amandarin or apple if
you've got a sugar craving, or you know sometimes you know,
we have people that are drinking like five liters of
coca day. You know, let's go to coke. Let's go
to coke zero.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Actually, because that is people think it's it's takeaway foods
and stuff like that, but.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
The sugary drink drinks is the worst.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
They're the worst. Just we've got a couple of minutes,
so you to finish off with.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Yeah, well, I just wanted to leave you with these
pillars real quick of how I rebuilt my life and
help thousands of others is number one. Start, don't ever
think it. If you're listening to this and you're motivated,
start right now. Second thing is stay consistent, being consistent.
Understand no one's perfect. You get knocked down, you get up.
Third thing, be around good people. Life's hard enough. You
don't you know without being around people that drag you
(38:56):
down all the time. And the last thing is no excuses,
you know, and the way a good example of no excuses.
One morning was pouring rain. I was training a guy
that way two hundred and seventy kilo training at the
Auckland Museum, and he texts me said, Dave, it's raining outside.
Are we still training? And I said, Phil, can I
ask you a question? Phil? Can I ask you a question?
Do you still go to KFC in the rain? To
(39:21):
live by all those matches, you have to have a
very strong wine purpose.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
That is, actually you're right with the weather a just
put on a rain coat whatever, do something.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Even like you know, if we've got five more minutes
left of training, everyone goes ah, but you know we'll
wait five minutes in line at KFC. And no problem.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
By the way, on the fizzy drinks, here's a message
on the fizzy drinks, just something backing that up. I
started going for a twenty minute run every day and
cut out energy drinks. Those were the only two changes
I made, and I lost eighteen kilos in eight months.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
It's massive. People don't understand all those energy drinks juice, cokes, sprites,
all those things. If you just just do that one thing,
cut fizzy and go for a walk. Yeah, massive changes.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
There's two really simple things. And I heartedly endors SAT
as well, because you know, even if you don't feel
like doing anything, put on those shoes, go for it
to walk, get some fresh air. Help you sleep at
night too, by the way, if you're walking during the
day because all that blue light. But that's another expert.
That's Alex Bartle. Next time we're on the sleepline it Hey, Dave,
thanks so much for coming in, mate, thanks for having me.
Go to bbmprogram dot com. You can do it if
(40:22):
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even if you just want to support that charity, and
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about the new Reserve Bank governor, among other things. You
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