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Thanks guys, cure everybody before the Matariki long weekend, and
welcome to a brand new episode of The Parenting Hangover podcast.
We've got a lot of stuff to catch up on today,
bad news for anybody who is celebrating their incredibly highest
(01:20):
four in the Men's Health Week test.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
We'll get to that first, because I feel.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Like that's the most pressing issue at the moment.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
We have been lulled into.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
A false sense of health security, Jordan.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
We are not the pactures of health that we thought
we were, a real false sense.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I went and turned the shower on, got into the
field position and sobbed a little bit because I was
writing I was from the highest of being almost high, yeah,
and then just to be thrown into the gutter like
a slobby out of any You're unfit. But look, I
want to turn it around me. So we talk about that.
(01:53):
We have another basically like a snoring slash gout slash moment,
the health moment. There no one's aware of that. We
share to the table. We're all about normalizing random health
issues that people in their mid thirties or usually six
year olds get, but for some reason, between men CLU.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
We have a few of them. Okay, let's stay on
the parenting hangover.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
This makes no difference to anybody listening to this right now,
but it's different to us. It's a nighttime parenting hangover
podcast record like we used to do.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And that means a beer that was meant to.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Sound really likesh, but it kind of came out of
the flashy Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You guys are listening. Shouldn't say any different. This podcast
should be exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It should sounds just as good as all the other podcasts.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, ten be is Deep, Let's do it. Ten Bears
Blood School.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Hey, we're going to start with this shocking realization. And
it was such a shocking realization that I text you
while I was at the Super Rug Final and I
know it was our team, the Chiefs, playing in the
final against the Blue, so I know that you were
busy as well.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
When I sent this.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
When I realized I couldn't not share it. That men's
health test that we did last week, when we were
bragging about how you got sixty two, and I got
sixty four.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Like you bet me because you got sixty four. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, turns out it's like golf, the lower the score
the better.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So you sent me a little screenshot that lovely listener
sent and saying, hey, guys, I think you read the
whole men's health thing wrong. Yeah, And he had a
graph with the different brackets of scores you could be
in and our one. Instead of us thinking oh, we're okay,
our one was saying, oop, maybe you could have another
look at your lifestyle and tighten up on a few
things to improve your score. But here we are. We're
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at the back heart. We're at the bad half of
men's health. We want to be fifty and under. And
we had a sixty two and a sixty four.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I was there with my very healthy brother in law,
who goes, yeah, man, lower the better.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I got a thirty.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Oh his real health.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well we're bad, bro. What is this?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
What has this slap in the face done. I've gone
to my favorite place in the world, a Facebook marketplace,
and I've bought my you have one. I think you've
inspired me, But look, cost of living crisis. It affects
everyone right now. I can't come to terms with paying
fifty dollars a week for the gym that I want
to go to here, right, I had to quit mine
and that's two hundred bucks a month that we need
at the moment. So I'm like, babe, she's not keen
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because she's like, you just have so much shit, my babe.
I'm going to find a gym, like a home gym
thing I don't know. I need like a bench in
some weights and I'm going to put it in the shed.
And i'd be looking for ages. And then one came
up just down the road, Matt Momonui. It had the
classic like six hundred dollars then crossed out down to
four hundred. Then I just messaged him one eight pick
up now and he's like, okay, so it's a proper
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like it's a proper rack that I can do squat
racks on. I've got a bench I do and I've
done two workouts now and I'm using it and I'm
making sure that I use it just to show my wife.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yea, has she used yet? No, she's one that somehow
she thinks she can go to the expensive gyms. She's
at the expensive gym, so she doesn't. She will never
use it. She goes to the gyms, but I've used it. Miela,
my eldest, was down there this afternoon as I was
doing it, like I said, you come be my counter,
just to have her there and see like what doing
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a hard workout is like, because she's got cross country tomorrow,
so maybe this is inspiring. Because she saw me shaking
at like eight on my dead on my squats as
I'm coming up with weights on my shoulders and she's like.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You can't do ten dead because I do ten.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I'm going to get to ten. That's so good.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So look, it's a first turning point. I've also stayed
off the dairy or she talked about that. I jokingly
was kind of dairy free, but I've committed to that.
I've got my gym stuff. I've been trying to run
more so since I've seen you, I've kind of in
my head, I'm going a little bit harder.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You need to take the test again. You should take that,
because I was going to take the test again and
just lie a little bit to try and get my
scoreed out.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Now because the test won't. We both would have ticked
the same thing about how much do you like the
amount we work out or do it activities are still
the same.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I think we got bad.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
We got bad for the fact that the thing that
you told us was an awkward thing to do, but
we got bad scores for not ticking. Have you talked
to your doctor about your prostate? Have you talked to
your doctor about blood pressure? Have you talked to your
doctor about your heart like and we're like no, because
if we bring it up, it's awkward because we don't
know if you are going to say, oh, all right,
put your nuts in my hand yuck men's balls.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Also side note, if I seem a little bit distracted,
we haven't done this podcast at night for ages, and
I think that me doing this podcast has woken my
daughter up.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Lucy's out in the lounge.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Our kids go down at seven o'clock, and it's like
seven point thirty right now.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I'm just trying to think. I'm trying to hear if.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That's if she's up, because if she's up, it was
definitely me. But you know, then I'm definitely in trouble
with Lucy.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You know, it's award winning podcast material, though, Lucy just
storming in what the fuck clemming you and your Little
Sod Project podcasts. You're going to text to it, Just
leave it, bro. What goes on pod stays on pod.
Right now, Jodie knows I'm down here. If there's a
nuclear bomb out there, just response.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I thought the response would be good for the podcast.
We can't stop, we can't stop, won't stop, but.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I can't stop, we can't stop.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm an award winning podcast, right almost award winning podcast,
Award nominated podcast. I forgot on another health side note,
which I feel like if I don't bring up, would
be weird because one day you guys will all see them.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I don't even know if I've told you I have
hearing aids.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Now, why did you get them? Oh?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I did tell you. Yeah, you told me.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You told me that you needed them, because remember we
went and saw the two from Spicksavers and they started
doing hearing aids.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
And have you got them? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I had to pull trigger and get them.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay, So really long medical story short, so I don't
bore people to death. I'm not your traditional grandparent going deaf.
I had this is eight years ago when Mela, my
first kid, was like maybe two or three, and Jody
would wake up and say.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Did you hear me last night? And the joke was always, oh, now,
I just.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Slipped on my good ear like like, and I purposely
would kind of sleep on one ear because it seemed
like I couldn't hear. But we never never thought, oh,
you're going deaf or it was just a gag like
I nah slipped on my And then we're in the
car one day and the radio's on and I'm putting
my finger in both ears and I'm blocking one ear
and then the other, and I was like, holy shit,
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I can hardly hear the radio.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, like that's bad.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So when it got tested and they found out I
had this disease called nothing dramatic. The word disease sounds dramatic.
It's not dramatic. Something called attosclerosis, which is you've got
tiny bones and your ears that are meant to vibrate
right when sound goes through your ear drum mine have
like fused.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
So they're like, cool, we'll book you.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So the noise I was, I think I've got like
sixty five percent. I had sixty five or seventy percent hearing,
which is quite a big knockdown from one hundred.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
How much I was missing from that ear from the
yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
So they're like, we can do surgery, we knock the
bones out, we replace it with a little bit of
place sick, and you'll eight percent chants of failure. When
I had my surgery, this is eight years ago, I
fell into the eight percent bracket and never works. I
had the same hearing still, Like they didn't make it
worse or better. Okay, just the same thing, right, And
then they're like, do you want to and then they
go because you've got it, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Going to happen in your right ear. And I was like,
I don't want to risk that surgery, Like no, I
don't want to do it again. And they said, so
at some stage you're going to need to get hearing aids.
And so for the last five years I get check
ups every two years. The lovely ladies like you're on
the cusp of you're fine without them, Like you operate
on a daily basis without them. You tell me that
you freak out at cafes and restaurants and meeting people. Yes,
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I do an awkward thing where if I've never met
you at a table at a restaurant, I have to
turn as if I'm going to kiss you, so both
my ears towards because if you're sitting on yeah, because
if you're sitting on my left hand side, I'm just
like laughing away at your story and you could be
telling me that your mum has just died.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So if this was the nineteen twenties, you would have
had one of those brass horns. Yeah, a big trumpet
and they're good ear and point towards the person they
needed to listen.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, But this year, bro, like an old grandpa, I
have been noticing that I'm getting more short tempered at
home because I'm missing what's going on, like I'm catching
the wrong end. And Jody gayes no, no, no, no, Jordan Nahla
said she's gonna do this. I'm like, oh, sorry, yeah,
and it's just like I'm the one. No one has
said it to me, but I said to Jody, I
need to pull trigger and get these hearing aids because
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I can tell that I'm becoming like like I'm missing
things and starting friction in the house. And also the
lady had said, no matter what, Jordan, you have to
get them before you turn forty, otherwise your inner hearing
starts to turn off. And that's bad, like the inner
innerh So anyway, when in got them, hate it, hate
the process. Anyone out there who's listening might be one
percent of you, you young people who are under sixty
(10:44):
who are listening. It's just something they say. You have
to put them in and you just have to wear them,
and you just have to get through it. And I
hate it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I don't care that.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I don't care about the look. And if someone's like,
you got hearing aids, sweet as, that's all fine. That
doesn't bother me one percent. It's just so annoying. It's
a different audio. It's any My kids are my amazing children.
I come home with them. I didn't say I had
them in, so they're they're little ones that clipped behind
your ears and then there's a tiny little clear cable
that then goes into my ear.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
And that's different like what they used to be.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Ye, completely different. And I didn't tell my kids just
to see if they could notice, and they did it didn't.
And then at dinner time, I'm like, I've got my
hearing aids in and they're like, and I take them
out and I let them kind of gently put them in.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Their area to hear what it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, and then they all slowly like start to well
up and have a moment of like, I don't want
you to have to wear them for your whole life.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And it became this and I'm going no, no, no,
they're there, and Jody's like, oh my gosh, there's so Jody's.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Welling up at the thought of the kids, welling up
at the thought of poor dad has to wear these.
But no, no, I'm fine, Like I'm fine, So I'm trying
not to grump about them that I have to wear them.
I don't have them in right now because you can't
really wear them with headphones or they get feedback in
that and.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
The headphones are like large.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, But anyway, there's a fun fact team, I now
wear full time hearing aids and both ears.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
If you need to do it, just do it.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Because I read about how it is like a precursor
to dementia, particularly for men, because you just can't and
so you start to withdraw from society and you just,
like the grumpy thing that you said, you become more
and more reclusive, and then you shut yourself off to
social engagements because you can't go and you can't hear,
and then before you know it, you're just a crazy
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old man who lives by it.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And I could have been that by forty or fifty.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Funny side note though, is they are quite fancy where
I can take all my calls come straight through them.
And if I'm watching any video now, so Jody will
think that I'm reading an article when really now I'm
just scrolling Instagram or TikTok and videos are playing.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
But in my ears.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Yeah, Lucy's mum's got them. I'm sure you won't matd
me talking about them. But her sync to the TV
so that they don't have to have a TV in
it so loud. You can select your own volume for
the TV inside your your hearing aids, and then the
family can have the TV at a normal volume.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
So I'm quite a naturally loud person, right. And Jody
just has did a little update for me yesterday. It's
just passing. She goes, I've noticed you're way. You seen
a lot calmer with your hearing aids, even though you
don't like them. She goes, you're way, Karma, You're quieter,
and she's asking me to turn the TV up. I'm
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sitting there listening to the TV at nighttime with her,
and then I'll just pop because I'm still playing, right,
you want to know what the difference is, So I'm
kind of popping them out, cooky to see what's going on.
You know that, Holy shit, I can't even hear the
TV in my ears. It's loud ass as you guys, No,
you do have it quite quiet. So we're still figuring
out the levels I need.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
To be ad and myself. Maybe I need to go
and get a hearing test. Maybe you do, Bro, But
so hopefully they say it's they They say, did your
parents have it or anything?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Because it's meant to be hereditary, and I was like, no,
So apparently I'm the first one in the family to
have it and hopefully my kids don't.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
But even getting it sorted, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'm the new poster boy for Hearing Lost New Zealand.
So if you're listening hearing Lost newsic like I do
with a gig. It's a tight current climate out there.
So if you want to want to do like a
pay video aiology speak favors, who's got I'm here?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
How's the kids?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
By the way, apart from crying about you getting hearing
as how are they?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, it's kind of like we've filled up an episode
about your snoring and now, holy shit, where this is
the oldest mid thirties podcast that anyone's ever listened to.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
We've gone over gout.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Snoring, and now hearing loss. I apologize. Are you guys
at home just turning off right now? I like to
think that we are normalizing. They're not so normal issues
that people might not talk about that actually are normal. Okay,
I can't wait for all my oddest glerosis peeps to
slus slamming in the DMS and making me feel like, yeah, accepted.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And also the snoring thing, We've got so much feedback
on it, and the majority of it was I need
to go and have a sleep apnea test. I need
to go and spend a night at the sleep clinic
and find out if I've got sleep apnea. And if
I have sleep apnea, then I have to get one
of those breathing mask things and my sex life will
be over. But if it means that my wife can
sleep and I live longer, then that's just what you
have to do.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Is that honestly, Like that's the honest answer of what
you got out of it. You think there was yeap.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Wow, that's the leading thing that has come through. It
is just going on that test and that's the big
mass that pumps oxygen on something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
It keeps pressurized air going, keeps you airways open, which
is what my surgery was meant to prevent.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
We are so old or weird.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Don't even get me started. We had to film a
video today with an all black with angers to Avau
and in it I have to do like a comedy
because it's about concussion this video, and I had to
like run into him and get like a comedy concussion. Yeah,
we did it twice. We did two takes. I have
to go to the Cairo practice tomorrow because I can't
move my neck properly anymore and acting joking, acting joking,
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fake situation. I now have an injury from it. So
and when we were driving there, that's morning and I
was dropping the girls to Kindy. They said, what are
you doing today, Dad? And I said, I'm going to
film some videos with a rugby player. And my sweet
four year old said, but Dad, you are.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
A rugby player.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And I said I used to be, but not anymore.
Why don't you play rugby anymore because I'm too old,
and old get hurt. Okay, so what do I do?
Go and do two pretend tackles and even real tackles,
and now I've hurt myself. It's like a forecast it
this morning.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
You know who's going to be our next person reaching
out to sponsor the podcast Rhyme in Healthcare that I say,
they're going to get us and say, hey, guys, we
know you're a bit young, but we think you could
be quite popular. Would you like to move into our
retirement home villages? Because you two sound amazing. You've both
got great voices. Hearing mars there, but you definitely both
(16:41):
you're breaking down at a rate of knots and the
fun thing is not the fun thing. But we are
now in households. We're both married, right, Yeah, with women
that have given birth who think they look they have
they've climbed everest and come back down successfully depending on
how many kids you've done with. My wife's done that
three times multiple times. So we can never complain about anything.
(17:03):
And it's a great time because you messaged today I
did a video on how to Dad, and you said,
we need to talk about this and you're right, I
did it in a tongue in cheek way, but basically
every dad has lived this. If you ever wake up,
especially close to the time where your kids maybe a
year or under, and you say, oh, geez, I'm tired,
as soon as it comes out your mouth, you want
to shove it back in because you know what's coming.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah, and it's like.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
You think you're tired. Have you had a baby letched
off your tit all night and just fallen asleep on
yourself with drool and cookie crumbs on your breasts. No,
that's tired and came to the.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Depths of tired, and as hell, you're only visiting, motherfucker,
I've been here for decades.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Or it's like or the new gym, I got the
gym gear and like my back's my muscles are a
bit sawing, Like oh jeez, I'm a bit tired, and
you just you know that straight away. They're like, you
don't know pain, or you've been talking about your sissy,
little sissy.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You don't know pain.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, yeah, and it's like this neck injury that I've
got now the flip side, but two is that's a
self inflicted injury.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Moms don't do that. They just don't.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
First of all, they don't put themselves in situations where
they're going to get these self inflicted injuries. And they
would say that that's because they know that they have
responsibilities and us, dads, we're just out here doing stupid
shit like you volunteering to play for your rugby team,
even though you're well pasted it crime. You're so lucky
you didn't get on that field because you would have
got injured and then you would have complained about it
and you would have got no submit to your wife.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You sound like Jody. This is all Jody was saying
leading up to it, like three weeks out. So I
really don't want you playing rugby.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah mate, come on, I'm basically eighteen in this body.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Okay, tent six year old man, but I feel eighteen.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
No conditioning, mat. I was looking for my name and
the current All Blacks announcements list, and I'm sad to
say see that I wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Let's focus on that tiredness thing that you talked about
in that video where you said that dads can't complain
about being tired, because it leads directly into this DM
that we got from someone. They said, question for you guys,
I have a very physical job. I work eight to
five every day, and then every night I'm up with
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my daughter who is sixteen months old. How do I
cope with a lack of sleep day in, day out?
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Thanks Legends.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
And that's from a dad who's battling tiredness, and so
how does how does he deal with that in his relationship?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
And I think I know what you're going to say,
but because I don't want to say it. We have talked.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I think we mentioned this early on in the podcast,
and it could some women out there who are fighting
for women's rights are going to want to kick us
in the nuts when we say it. But we both
had very similar setups where at the time I bought it.
I remember sitting down with Jodie and bringing it up
and our plan. She's always having a year off work
(19:54):
with baby, right, and she was like, yeah, you've got
to go back to work. You're working. You have a
week off, Jordan and you're back to work.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And I'm pretty sure I could bring her down here
and she would back me up. But she's like, you
can't be tired for your job, Like I had a
full on we're making a topical TV. I was working
behind the scenes in TV and it was just crazy
eight or six pm every day and you just had
to be on. She's like, you don't get up, I
get up to the kid, you sleep and clarent here.
(20:22):
Who's awkward to say it had the exact same setup. Now,
I don't want to say that in a way that
it's putting pressure on any mums out there, because everyone
has a different setup. Did I get up at earlier times,
like yes, ten pm, eleven pm, that stuff was okay,
But the two ams and the three ams and four ams,
Jody wouldn't even ask me unless it was like a
shit storm, like the kid's been screaming.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
For an hour and I need a different up uns.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Ninety Yeah, ninety percent of the time, I was a
sleeping baby and I woke up fresh, and you felt
for your partner and she was a trooper. But her argument,
being here right now is like, yeah, you had to
go to work. I understand that I had. She could
catch up when she could. And if you're we sound
like Chauvines's pigs saying it. But during the day at
two pm, if the baby was down and Jodie was dead,
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she could try and catch up on some sleep. Did
she have a whole year of hell and being tired?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yes she did. Yeah, but I couldn't go into work
and be a tied piece.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
I would have got fired.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
So we don't. We don't have amazing advice for you.
Chat GPT.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
My thoughts on this guy's situation is because he's sixteen months,
he's still pretty new. At sixteen months, you're still pretty
new to the.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Whole parenting experience.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, I think he might be trying to do everything
like he might be trying to be a bit of
a hero and shoulder too much of the burden, which
is weird because I'm sure your.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Partner is also really battling as well.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But I guess you just have to have that conversation
of because you're just in the if you've got a baby,
especially if you've got a baby that's not sleeping.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
If you've got a baby that sleeps, the.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
World is infinitely easier. But if you've got a baby
that doesn't sleep, man, even even the smallest issues become
so much bigger and tougher to deal with. And I
wonder if he's just doing too much. But I also wonder,
excuse me, I wonder if he's had that conversation with
his partner about okay I because especially he's doing a
physical job. But I don't even have a physical job,
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annual labor job where he needs to be physically before.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But we don't know the story. She his partner may
be working, he may be a solo dad. There's a
lot of missing facts that we can't give. We're not
doctor Phil and not to get my biggest.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Thing, but his wife.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
His wife could also have postpartum depression or something like that,
and she's really struggling with the entire load of it.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
You just got to have some. You gotta have some.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Again, we don't have enough stats. Otherwise are going to
be doing what ifs all night? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
what if? What if he birth as child himself? You know,
we don't know. We don't have enough facts. My number
one thing though, if we were struggling, I just want
to say, Okay, his starting point is leaping on Google.
Not how to dad silly videos, but trying and talking
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to other parents, talking to you if your kid is
like if you are saying you've had NonStop maybe for
sixteen months, of a kid that's not sleeping. You need
to be trying some different.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Something needs to change, something is to change.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, some different. We used to have the let them
cry for a little bit, where now apparently it's twenty
twenty four you can't do that. But anyway, there's lots
of different ways out there. You need to try, try
a different routine to try and get that kids. You
can let them cry for Oh no, you get I
think I did a video a couple of years ago,
and man, it was one of the most hated ones,
like some carrot ris on a bike. Okay, anyway, I
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don't care. I'm going to say it on the podcast.
We used to do the fifteen minute and where you
let them cry for five. You go into the room.
You don't do too much, You just by showing that
you're present. You put a hand on the chest, tuck
the blanket and leave the room. Then you leave them
for ten minutes to cry, come back in and then
fifteen was the max you could leave them. And we
never got to fifteen. They would fall asleep. And some
people hearing that right now and I don't care, because
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it worked.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Lucy's using that technique right now without three year.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Now you can't losey not in twenty three four mate,
not hanger, take it. She's last canceled. She's canceled.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Meggie's back to struggling with going to sleep in her
new bed. She's in the big girl bed and technique.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And well, what we've skipped too much? She said that
she's in the bed.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Oh yeah, can I I did bush out on this guy.
Your Your whole video was about how dads don't get
to say that they're tired to moms who are infinitely tired.
If you're doing if you're working a ten hour day
and then you're also getting up for all the nighttime stuff,
you do get to complain that you're tired.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
You do again. I worry about how much backstory we have.
We don't know what kind of work he.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
And if he just turns around and goes in his head,
he's thinking, just say it, just say just say it.
Coincide and he just gets up the confidence. Yo, you
want to know something, you want to know something. I'll
work hard every day. I don't know where he's from,
I don't know who he is.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I work hard every day and I come home.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
And then I have to deal with this baby every
night and I can't see that. I'm tired like that
could be divorced, that could so don't take again. We
don't have the backstory.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
He could have been.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
He could have been from Ireland, he could have been
from South Africa.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Okay, okay, we're trying hard to get canceled tonight.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
He could be Jamaican. Hey man, I'm dying. No, well
you can't like well, jeez, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Okay, So Meggi's in a big gil bed. Megi's in
a big girl bed.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, what happened there?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
What did you do?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Did you gave Lucy my amazing advice just leaving the
bed in the box, and then she was like stuff
that and.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
We wanted to take it.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
We wanted to take your advice like it was such
it was so well received.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
If you missed it.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Jordan's advice was, we're transitioning Meggie out of her cot
into a big girl bed. And I said that we
were going to leave her cot in the corner of
the room as threat, so that when we put her
in the big girl bed, we said, if you don't sleep,
you will go back in the big gil. You'll go
back in the cot and you said, go one step further,
put the new bed in the corner, don't unpack it,
don't set it up, and say you don't get that
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until you sleep properly.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
That was your advice. Ah, amen, Amen, sister. Yeah, we decided.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
We decided that that was a bit unfair to Maggie
because we had only because we had promised her that
it was coming. We've already told her that it had
been ordered, and we felt like it was a bit
like taky Becky to do that. So we decided that
it would be better to trust her and to just
say to.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Her and now and now tell the people what's happening. Now. Struggling,
She struggling to go, She's struggling sleep.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
But to her credit, once she gets to sleep, she's
not getting up.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Best lip of her life. When she gets to sleep,
she spreads out and she's like, whoa this this mattress
is insane. So when she gets to sleep at one am,
it's all good, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
But the co is in the corner of her room,
so it is there as a visual deterrent.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
She knows, now, mate, she knows you gave me that
bed too easy. You ain't even gonna put my ass
back in the cot. I'm just going to give you
the sad eyes. And I'm fine, I'm fine. I'm spreading down.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
She she is doing a good job. Okay, Meggie, if
you're listening to listen twenty years time, you are doing
a good job. Okay, we love you, and please keep
sleeping that you are doing a good job.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Okay, Maggie, you've got mummy and Daddy around your little finger.
You're doing very good. Keep it up. She's the youngest,
she's gonna get.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Everything is Yeah, we yelled out on the old DMS. Hey, yeah, yo,
because we had a.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Legend come through, a legend and say that he had listened.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I don't know if it makes them legendary or it's
just a bit crazy, so but I guess, because you know,
we're drinking tonight on the podcast. A legend who listened
back to back to fifty two fifty five episodes. Yeah,
He commically said that the number one thing he had
learned was don't break dance in your kitchen or your
smash your oven.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Door like I have.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I finally got contents or whatever. Insurance. I stood four
hundred dollars excess. I've had to pay for.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
That, yez.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Anyway, So we just asked, and we're going to get
the feedback straight after these ads. What have you guys
learned in your fifty two weeks or however many weeks
you've listened to the Parenting Hangover? Have we taught you
any thing? We'll find out after these messages.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Okay, So we asked specifically the person who listened to
fifty four episodes back to back before their new baby arrived,
have you learned anything from this podcast because it was
originally intended to be.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Education.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, don't think Jordan's too manly. He just opened himself
as spicy margarita.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
They're named after my kid. They're called an alba. There
my wife's strength. She said, don't touch them, and I
took two into the podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
So nice. Ah, they're nice, They're delicious. I enjoy yourselts
a bit. Those. I'll drink those. Is that what this is?
Sult say no, no, no, it's a margaarita and a camp Oh,
there you go, it's a tequila.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
So that guy replied, he goes, lads, I just listened
to the episode where you talked about my message as
a bit of a follow up as requested. The podcast
has definitely helped a lot, not only with the laughs,
but just the little tips and tricks as well as
some info that can be good to have on deck
when certain situations arise. So please keep doing what you're doing.
(29:05):
By the way, Mum and baby are doing amazing. We
are starting to find our rhythm and just making the
most of it before I'm going back to work next week.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So that's a lovely message. I have just had the
thought though, we by asking this question to the viewers,
to the listeners, deep down, we probably knew we're going
to get some positive stuff coming in right now?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Are we asking?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Are we asking everyone else to self source us? Are
we this is a form of self sourcing?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Is this is self sourcing?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
This is one hundred percent self sourcing? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Are we good?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Do we do a good?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Do you like us? It's like when someone posts a
screenshot of the money that they've donated to charity, which
I'm sure we've all done, and you go, it's to
encourage others to donate, and you're like, maybe.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Some of us play some of us play handbll for
twenty four hours for the ultimate self source. I was
covered in self source, self just source to near death.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
At that it was this is a sub source, this
is a ridiculous self source.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
But I think it came from a good place.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
The question was it was sort of a self reflection
moment of going, we've done fifty seven of these now
and are meant to be helpful?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Are they helpful?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I think it was more of at a point of
reflection of going, is this is this worth doing?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
This is the time of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
We all we do is shout into an empty space.
There's no one here, there's no live feedback, there's no audience.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
We don't actually know.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Oh shit, guys, clet s By has just had them.
This is the part of the podcast where I was
just going to chime in and think, are we are
you professional enough that you're going to follow this up
now with more messages?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Or have we got no more? Was it just that one?
Oh no, we put the word out with it anymore?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well, we didn't get where we've got that video. Most
of them are going to come off the video. We're
gonna have video up late this week. Let mememb a
quick look rememb a quick alveum to the DMS.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Ah, you're right, and that video has only just gone up.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
That video has just gone up. So again, we don't
have a producer, but if.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Anybody would like to contribute some there and absolutely will
take them.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
We'd love to hear We'd love to hear it.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
If you want to hook pr in self source, We're.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Keen to hear it. I love that chick, She's so good. Well.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
I think that was probably the coolest, most topical thing
I've ever done on this podcast. Trying to explain it
to my wife because it's everywhere the home turg and
it's just it was that classic when you're trying to
show some in a video and they just don't get
it and they don't care for it, and you just
end up feeling.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Awkward everyone in the room. I was at a family
thing and they're just.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Like, how do you not know?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Jody? Yeah, like, this sounds this seems yuk like.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And then the other side of that is you end
up getting forty eight million views on a video that
you filmed ten years ago. The Internet is the weirdest
thing in the world, isn't it happen?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
That's happened in the last two weeks. I post an
old video on Instagram and TikTok, and it both platforms
just exploded. Yeah, fun thing for any creators out there.
Though it bombed on Facebook and YouTube. They crazy, it's crazy,
they say, if it's good content or good do good anywhere.
We've got fifty million views on TikTok basically fifty on Instagram,
fifty million and about twenty thousand on YouTube and maybe
(32:03):
ten thousand on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, which is that It makes no sense.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
This is the rat race us creators living, Yeah, trying
to figure out what the people want.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Just look at the TikTok page for this very podcast.
It's impossible to know what is going to Connect's possible. Anyway,
we keep on keeping on.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
When we have a drink or two, we start just
to just to kind of go on a bit a.
I feel like I feel like we need to wrap
it up. No, we're gonna Before we wrap it up,
I forgot we should have more professionally segued into really quickly.
We have a long weekend this weekend here in New Zealand.
It's called Matadiki Weekend. It's a celebrating the Marti New Year.
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A lot of primary schools all do things around the country.
My kids primary school, they have the year five and
six is that's your nine and ten year olds. They
have a sleep in tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
They stay at school, they share food, they clip at
the school. They wake up early. They look at the
Matadiki stars because Martadiki is a collection of stars. We
are going away with the family and some family friends
to Rotu to go camp at your hometown. Yeah. Just off,
just off to the.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
East is the Blue Lakes.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Yep, yep.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Well there's a Top ten holiday camp there somewhere.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
We're going there. I but that's what we're doing. Borrow
the kayaks.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
They're free at the Top ten holiday park and kayaking
to the other side of the Blue Lake is really easy.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
You should definitely do that while you're there. It's great. Okay,
we're gonna walk around it even better, even bit nice.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Are you doing anything for the long weekend? As a
guy that doesn't like to go away with the kids
because they demand that they have their best bed, their
best brand new bed, and they won't go anywhere else
without it.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
My family is doing a Matariki get together, but they're
doing it in Carterton, which is a ten hour drive
from where we live, and I said, we're not coming
because it's too far. Not that I don't love my family,
but on a three day weekend, it would be a
ten hour drive there on the Friday, one day with
the family, and then a ten hour drive back.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Just can't do it.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
So yeah, American listeners listening in will be like, that's nothing.
That's just moving to the next town. By New Zealand.
It's the length of the country, based.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
The length of the island. It is the length of
the island, so we won't see them. But we're gonna
have a matiki celebration at home. We're gonna have our
friends over and we're going to cook a bunch of
food and have friends get together for Maiki.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
So yeah, great, enjoy a long weekend if you're New Zealand.
If you're not New Zealand, enjoy your Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I'm going to take you out with my incredibly cute
daughters singing the Martariqui song Toru.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Fu Whity White Matriqui.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
The actions that go with the ore the same actions
from the mark arena. Happy Martariki, everybody.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I love that song. It is back to back in
my household