July 24, 2024 • 43 mins
We're back after our school holiday break with a BIG milestone on the pod this week - one of our girls has started primary school. Jordan is hustling hard on Facebook Marketplace to get an entire family load of gear to save money with DAD MATH. Clint has a question about the different language we use with girls and boys and Jordan's dad is on his O.E (in his late 60's)
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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The Parenting Hangover at gmail dot com. Thanks guys, Hello everybody,
and welcome back to a brand new episode of The
Parenting Hangover. We're back after the school holidays and.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Boys energy, energy, Energy. We'll bring energy for the first
episode back. Because we've had holidays, were revived, we did
heaps of stuff, big life moments for Clint. Let's all
go whoa, Yeah, we still don't have a producer to
like fade up some cool energytic music right now. We've
probably just got our same music bed that's played as
it finished by now, the music that we used to hear.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
No, it's still going.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Okay, I'll try to but good catch up bep here.
We've had a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, we've got kids who have started school, We've got
kids who are taking up new sports. We're going to
finally get to the bottom of the allergy test that
Jordan talked about. While you snip the hair and you
guys are all asking what that is that's going to
come up and what was it going to talk about
the language that we use specifically around boys and girls
and what the difference is, why we do it and
what we should be doing to make sure that we're
(02:04):
reinforcing confidence and creativity amongst boys and girls equally.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
And I hustle the shit out of some people on Facebook,
market place listen.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
In as we sit here, Well we knew here. It'll
be four days, but for us it's two days since
the school holidays ended and the podcast holiday ended. So
we're back. The kids are back at school or kindy
or wherever they need to be. And I don't know,
feeling feeling good, feeling good? Did you have a good break?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, we're meant to come back refresh. Thatn't we having
a little giving ourselves a little two week break? But
you know it's also two weeks of just juggling, a
lot of juggling. Do you did you have the did
you have a full two week radio break as well?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
No? I stupidly have organized that for two weeks time
from now. Okay, so just in the middle of nothing.
Kids will still be at school. It'll be a holiday
for me. I won't really do anything days of sitting
around the house. Lucy said to me that she's going
to need a holiday from my holiday. After the holiday
because there's nothing planned. So she goes, do just be
a pain in my ass the whole time hanging out
(03:10):
around the house.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh, you'll get back out there and you're outdoor backyard
gear and do some more stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Don't even talk to me about that. Are we going
to kick off the new season of the podcast talking
about our injuries or are we not going to talk
about injuries this season?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Nah, because I'm currently I have a new one as well,
and I thought people don't want to hear that we
break down, and so we're not going over injuries. I
think what we do kick off is something highly emotive.
It kind of ended the last last episode we did
was you having the big epiphany around your kid going
to school and big moments and kid graduating from Kendy.
(03:49):
So I think we throw it straight to you with
what because I saw it, you shared it. What's just happened?
What big things just happened?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Mate? My daughter Tilly has just started school. Her first
day of school was yes she turned five in the
school holidays, right in the middle of the school holidays.
She had a KINDI graduation in the last week of
last term, and then yesterday she went off to school.
And man, she did a good job. She absolutely smashed it.
(04:16):
She's been incredibly excited about starting school.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
We sort of put all this pressure.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
On this milestone and wonder how kids are going to
take it and all this stuff. But she was just
excited the whole time, like she was doing a daily countdown,
and she was like, five days until I become a schoolgirl,
four days until I become a school girl. And she
quite literally came bounding down the stairs yesterday morning, Monday morning,
and she was like, Dad, it's school day, which is
(04:42):
the best thing that you can hope for?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Right? Did you go to drop off? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I went to the first drop off.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeap with it and no tears. I I like, no,
not from you, from her?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
No, none from her?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Wow, we got there. We hung her bag on her hook,
and her jacket we made or she knew where her
lunch box went. But she'd already done a couple of visits,
like they go for like two hours in the morning
to sort of slowly ease them, and they're meant to
do four visits over four weeks where they sit in
the classroom for two hours and you leave them for those.
So she'd already experienced that. But even then, even for
(05:17):
those visits, she was fine. And she the bell rang
and she went running off to her class, so much
so that we hadn't even said goodbye to her. And
Lucy was like, hey, can I can I get a
like can I get a cuddle? Can I get a cuddle?
Have a good day? And she's like yeah, yeah, I'm fine, Yeah, yeah, okay,
bye bye bye, and she ran and sat on sat
on the mat directly in front of the teacher, looking
up with a teacher, and I just went, she's one
(05:38):
hundred percent fine.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
She's This is really to me rare. This is amazing,
but very rare. Like, yeah, you start to have their
moat where you still at that age. I have to
walk them into the class, make sure everything's alive. They
kind of cling to you for a bit and you
pry them off and everything. So and then there'll be
a moment they'll become their second year of school and
that's when they're like, see you don't care about your parents,
I'm fine, catch you up. Yeah, your kid's doing it.
(06:02):
First day.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Just there's I talked about it a few podcasts ago
where there was this tipping point with Tilly my daughter,
she's my oldest daughter, and she had always been a
real skinny cat, like a real clinger. Hard to get
her to try anything new, like to go down a
slide at the playground, or to do her swimming lessons
and things like that. And then it's hard to attribute
(06:26):
it to one thing, but I feel like it's when
we changed swimming lessons and we put her in the
swim school where the teachers are just amazing, and it's
that old school kind of just pushed them into the
pool and know that they'll be okay, and they're like,
you're all right, You're all right, don't give them any
time to complain. And they say to the parents, you
go and sit over there, you stay out of the way.
(06:46):
And since they did that, she has just her confidence
in every area has changed, and it flows over into
things like starting school.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
She just she.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Actually craves it, like trying new things.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, you go to a playground, she'd be like, I
want to do that. I want to do that. Do
you think I'm big enough to do that? And the
fear is one hundred percent gone, and she's like she's
she's really excited to try new things. And to see
what she's capable of doing.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The awesome thing is is that that's awesome she's doing
that now because that's what Maggie has to look up to. Yeah,
where we had, like Miela was very much stayed in
her shell, and she's busted her shell down now in
her later years, but not as early as what you're saying.
You know, she's still very much a timid kid new
things or I don't know, but now it's like hold
(07:34):
her back and then Albert that's rubbed off on Alba
and now Nala, as we've explained million times, is the scared,
like I'm scared for her life. It's just that I'm
going to go up this I'm going to jump this waterfall,
see that rope, see that tree that everyone's doing, mone
who's out of like the big grown man. I'm going
to climb that tree and go pop a money and
do a big cannonball.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I saw the video of her having a running race
against your wife over the holidays. She's so fast, man,
she's rappers.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
She's faster than Jody. We were at the mount, we
had an ice cream and then we're just a fair.
We're a kind of family. That don't sit down. We
can't just sit, so we start the kids start doing
running races. Then I limber up my back and we're
timing it on our phone. Yeah, so you got to
run down here around that drain to the tree and
back and we're timing booth. Mela, that was slow, and
(08:21):
then Narla got real close to Albert Melas's time. So
then they take it more seriously and they bip and
they're like, I've got the fastest. And I was like, Jody,
it's your turn, Please don't lose. Like you're not. She goes.
Jody goes to the gym. She isn't one of these
mums who was scared to do physical activity. Like she's
into things like don't you lose to Nala? Go old
time you book? Oh mate, she's the last. She's officially
(08:44):
the last of the family. And man, it made me.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Narla has the most amazing center of gravity. Watching those
pictures like, cornering is not an issue for her.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You just saw it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, you can describe her as before and that's she
definitely is. She looks like to me when I watched it,
she looked like a tiny Brian Habana, Like she just Bam.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
She reminds me of the is it Simon Biles American gymnasts. Yeah,
I'm like, because Nala is doing a little cute after
school young kid gymnastic lessons and yeah, she's just this
little balls. She hasn't had the Yeah, she hasn't had
the period where kids arms and legs are still figuring
(09:27):
out which one goes forward first. And she's just come
out And again it could be the youngest kid thing,
or she's just born this natural ball of I don't know.
We don't want to let it go away.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
So if we can see this channel something, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Right now I've got a kid who's just a ball
of energy muscle.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Just to wrap up the school thing. The other side
of it is, so if you have more than one
child and one of them is starting school, I've realized
that you have to you have to channel that positivity
into the kid who's not going to school as well.
Like I had a realization there there was a lot
of celebration for this milestone that Twoey was about to achieve.
Plus her birthday was in the middle of that, so
(10:05):
it's been very too eccentric for the last month.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Pretty much, it's Kendy finish, birthday, yeah, school starting.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, her graduation ceremony, her birthday, her party, her presence,
her starting school. So there's been like a conscious effort
to celebrate Maggie on certain things too. And so for
the last week, it's been five days until school starts
and then you catch yourself and you go and five
days until kindy starts up again.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, and Meggie's really good.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
She's looking for any chance to celebrate things. And she's like, yeah,
my first day of candy again. We're like, yeah, that's right,
that's exactly that's the attitude. So she's good. But it's
been a it's been an important because I felt bad
for her because she's she's really good. But any she's
only three and so two he's getting all these presents
(10:54):
and all these things, and she took it. She took
it all well. But every I think maybe one or
two people, the grandparents and the neighbor, got Maggie a
present too on Toy's birthday, which I know is a
dangerous precedent to set, but it kind of helped to
take the edge off it a bit.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, well that's when we loop back to our hated
Goodie bags. You should have a goodie bag, Baite. It's
the one time is you can give your own younger
child a goodie bag, just so birthdays are smooth sailor
and not where the hell is my Barbie Princess stole house?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Exactly exactly with something. We booked a place for Toy's
birthday party. We decided we didn't want the admin of
all these kids in the house, and we booked this
like chipmunks type place an Auckland. It's called Magic Loft,
and you get a room to have your cat, You
bring the cake, and they supplied hot schappes and hot
dogs and goodie bags for all of the kids that
(11:46):
were there, which I know will really fire you up,
but we didn't organize them. But it does help to
reinforce the notion to kids that every party you go
to you get a goodie bag.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yes, goodie bags the bane of the economy. Mate, goodie bags.
I like to think that this year goodie bags aren't
happening because people weigh it up. They wait because yeah,
and cost a living and survived to twenty five mates
survived to twenty five. Speaking of survived till twenty five,
we go to the snow every year. I think since
(12:15):
the kids have been very little, we try and get
away to the snow and we're not extreme people who
are there for like two weeks and I'm doing backflips
and the kids are great, like they're all still very
beginner stage, but they ski. I'm the cool snowboard dad.
And I was like, we hire so much gear when
we go, I'm going to pull the band aid off
and buy not new. So I spent Saturday morning. I
(12:37):
was like, give me half an hour Facebook marketplace. I'm
gonna go nuts. I'm gonna find everything I need. Ye Ah.
It was like everyone knew, just leave dad, he's in
a Facebook marketplace like focused. I was at the I
was at the table just with my phone. I had
two phones out because one one I'm figuring out what
size skis the kids need and I've got all that out,
and then the other I'm checking and you're hustling. Yeah.
(12:59):
People are like, I got ski boots sixty bucks and
I'm just missing straight away forty bucks cash pick up
today and then they're like, yeah, done, great, so I
mark that one down. They're ready, and where are they
in Toto on a because I want to try and
do one trip to what this week is just God
become the very much dad going weird one off trips
for like half an hour and then when you stop
and add up the time and the petrol money that
(13:21):
I've spent, I don't know. Maybe we should just hired them,
but I'm happy for because hiring, I think is like
a combo case, like forty bucks a day, and if
you go for three days, that's one hundred and twenty
bucks per caoor. Yeah, per kid. I've spent about one
twenty to one fifty per kid for secondhand skis and
boots for them to have. So Mela's ones, right, We'll
(13:43):
she'll go out and we'll have to sell their next year.
But then album will move into them. Sorry sorry, Narla's
we'll have to give away and then Narla will move
up into our like you.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Might lodge it. You might have spent one hundred and
twenty each year getting the top end, getting the next
size up. Yeah, but then you can eventually sell the
ones at the bottom. Nyla has grown out up. This
is this is a dead math exactly. We talk a
lot about girl math, but this is dead man.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
This is this is dad man. Math, And the best
dad Math moment was my wife completely forgot that I
know three seasons ago, Like I just always struggled with
snowboarding boots when we hired them. I've got wide feet
and they would just get so sore within like half
an hour. I'm wanting to take my boots off up
the mountain because my f so I'm like a size twelve.
(14:25):
I would go and ask them for like size fourteen
ski boots just so they would be wider, and Jodie goes,
just go and get something. By I want you to
buy snowboard boots, you can just shut up. So did
that a few years ago. Now we're at the point
we were trying to get everyone their own skis. So
we've got Joe, I've found Jody sick InHand skins, and
then it come to boots. And in my head I
(14:45):
was waiting for her to say I might actually buy
boots that are actually proper for me. And because she'll
be like, hey, you got new ski boots.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I get new ski book.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Years ago and she's completely forgotten and we know she
hasn't really listened to the podcast, and right now I
have shown her a Fuwer marketplace and she's like, I
really want white ones though I really want what.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I want them.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Okay, we'll painted, okay. And I found this and then
someone sent me this website. There's a place down in
christ Church. They import x ski gear from Europe from
ski rental gear yea ex rental gear, and they sell it.
They have stored and a container and they list things
and they sell them through their shops. So I found
some boots for Jody on there that I will show
(15:31):
her today and or look like a legit website. She
won't know that they're sick had.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So instead of getting her a pair of boats that
have been owned by and worn by one person previously,
you'll get her a pair of boats that have been
worn by about three to four hundred people.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Many European athletes. And if it rubs off that kind
of athletes from Europe can actually rub off and give
her some skiing ability, like she might get even better
through the fungus that grows between her toes, and the
fungus takes over and it's like left right left.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
So it's a noble that. It's a noble quest. And
I've enjoyed watching the updates on it. You finding the bits.
I think it's good. The real cost savings are going
to come from going to the snow multiple times though,
you know, because one hand and twenty times per twenty
dollars per visit per child to rent the gear. But
if you go three times, mate, you're winning.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, so, which we are planning to do this year
because side note, you always want to keep your ears
out when you move anywhere in you and someone say
oh we've got a batch and fum your day. Oh
we've got a batch down here. We've got friends that
have a batch down in or Cooney yes, And we're
like yo, yo, yeah, I don't want to be their guy.
But anyway, they invited us on like with them and
(16:41):
another family last year. It's amazing. It sits there empty
and I'm like, yo, yep, Jody, should we be heading
them up to and they're just say yes, use it,
get in there and use it. But I hate it.
They're those kind of people. They're so kind and I
want to we want to pay you like yes something
because they're not they're not using it as a booker
batch and I want to pay you something like no,
(17:02):
it's like ten dollars no. And they even if you
just chuck the water cash on them, they would chase
you and chuck it back. Yeah. Yeah, Like so I
want to think of something cool that we can do well,
like as gift door.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You've got to you've got to go with non refundable
things like baking and cooking and things.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Ye're all like full the cupboards, like if you shop
a grocery shop of because they've got teenage like a
teenage son.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah, non verishables, so that they.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
But yeah, so we're going. We're going in August for
a few days on our own, like two or three nights,
and then we're going in September with them and another family,
and then we might try and go again another time
in September. Yeah, right, and only only really checking on
that third trip because I've gone through the effort of
getting so much stuff from Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It's going to cost you, costing you more because you're
going to bed of the snow so many times. But memories, memories, memories.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
We we yeah, exactly, you're you're right there. Yeah, we
are taking the kids out of school to the right
and this year the big I don't know if you
would have caught wind of it, but the big little
whispers and news and school emails that come out is
truancy issues. And there's been rumors of parents saying, oh,
we're not doing our week like wealthier parents saying, we're
(18:16):
not taking the kids to the islands this year like
we do every year because apparently we're not allowed. We
used to take the kids out for six days. But
I'm like, h Santa Jody, what happens? Are they just
going to say, hey, tut tut tut, you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, it's on the school. It's the school that gets penalized,
not you. Oh yeah, it's a real big thing with
this new government. It's one of the one of the
real bug bears.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I shouldn't have said this out loud on the podcast,
that we're just like, well.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
That from what I know about it, they're holding the
schools accountable for truancy and for like you have to
have a certain percentage of days attended by schools by
kids averaged across the whole school. So the school will
be putting that pressure back onto you. But yeah, I
don't know, you're not going to get like, what are
they really? What are they going to do? They can't
find you. I'm not saying usual.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
We're both from tight knit little schools, the intermediate and
the primary. So I'll one hundred percent chat to some
of the teachers and get a vibe on yo, if
we want to go to the snow yeah, And even
if they say no, please don't. I mean, I'll stand
up and argue that this is life. It's a life
life less like they're like learning things about you got
to do the maths on right? Am I going to
(19:29):
hit that person if I carry on this line on
my skis so I don't know how to turn? Or
am I one hundred percent going to hit that person
because dad hasn't taught me how to turn? Like there's
a lot of math geometry.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
If you take a kid out of school to go
and do something like that, do you ask the teacher
for stuff that the kid needs to catch up on
while they're out or you just no?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Maybe with me we will. But the other two at
the primary school age they're at, I know, New Zealand
we are falling behind a little bit with the levels
that were meant to be at. But at Nahla's age,
I'm like, what if she missed out on these two days?
That she's been away. Oh wow, we did the clappy
song and you know what I mean. They go over
(20:12):
things so repetitively at that young age that I'm not
two stress Alba though, we definitely look at it. The
middle kid, Alba, who's nine, she has just opened the
floodgates of wanting to do everything she was last year.
I just do my one once a week tennis, and
I like that because it's not a team sport and
it's just me and I know another girl there and
that's all I want to do. Stop talking to me.
(20:32):
And now it's I do drama. And now I'm in
a netball team, and now I've put my hand up
for Kapa hakka. And then I was in the school
and now she's in the school choir, and she has
all these So she's the hardest one where we actually
all these little things are in the calendar. Well we
can't go. Then she's got a choir performance and we
can't go. Then she has a couple of hacker performance,
we can't go. Then she has choir training and she
(20:53):
won't want to miss it. So she's actually the hardest
one to squeeze it. Yeah, she's in choir bro.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I was in school choir.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I was in Yeah, I was in primary school choir.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I did school choir, couple hacker, soccer, hockey, basketball, rugby,
speech and drama.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Well you you were too hard out guitar lessons. Were
you in the school drama performance at the primary school? Yeah?
And did you go for the lead and not get it?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, a couple of times, and then in my last
year I got it, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Oh well no, yeah, no, yeah, I would have got
it too. I was just sick. My voice wasn't hurt there,
but I definitely where we did Joseph and the Technic
Color Dream Coach and I went up there and sug
my little heart out for the lead, think it like
so confident? Yeah, I was like I got this. And
then it turns out my friend Cole Town's end could
(21:43):
sing just those couple of octaves higher than me, and
that's what they were looking for. You know. Choir has
loved to all songs are up in that higher octave.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Especially.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yo, this is Joseph tech New cot like And so
I just got some bitroll. I played a couple of characters.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Were you were the lead, and you got a bit
roll at least I got like consolation roles where I
got like the best friend of the main character.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, no, Joseph didn't really have Joseph. You've either got
Joseph and the girl that he'd like. Oh, I was
the villain. There's the main villain, Potiphar. I was Potiphar.
And I had two lines Other than that, I was
out there, but I had two lines.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
What was Cole's last name? Again, Town's end such a
show business name.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
That's the issue, such a show.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
But I can imagine seeing Cole townsend up in lights.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You know, the voice, the voice of an angel can
just sing. He's still got it. He could strum it
out right now did he go? And it's weird, Like
I'll say to the kids, Cole, agree that the lyrics
stick with you forever. We are so old now and
I can sing here to remember a lot. I don't
know if you can remember all of it. But and
the video. My mom passed away a few years ago,
and she used to have the video of the school
(22:49):
performance on VHS. Yeah, and now no one knows where
the hell it is. I like, who took it? Where
to go? That is a gold mine.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
My mum has just offloaded my mom is the process
of doing a major downsizing, and she's just offloaded all
the family vhss to me.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Oh great, yeah, just no pressure. But you've got them.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I've got them.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm back. I'm that guy though, like in the family,
my older siblings and that would just shrug. Oh, I
don't want these old tapes. Yeah, I might give them here.
I want this history.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, them in the process of trying to get this
dongle thing, which she lets you record them into digital
files so that we can have them because there's family
movies in there.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
But then there's also a donga thing, a massive flashback
first episode of the Printing Hangover. Did you say you
need a donner? If you know what we're talking about
right now?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
A big black donger from the first episode of Printing Hangover.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
They are black and they have two the big black
donger that has three bits come off it. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah full video video left, a video audio
left audio right. Yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, I need an r donner so I can keep
my files. Let's take a quick break and then I
want to come back and talk about something. It's not serious,
it's just like could be helpful for a.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Couple of girl dads. We're back. Hopefully some ads played there.
I listened to some podcasts where they're like, we'll be
back in a quick break, and then it's just them again.
The break never ahead.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Lot of the time, have you listened overseas to us too?
Never really adds.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Hah, we we'll just keep on flowing on. I had
things noted down, real quick fire stuff. We did school holidays.
It was tough. I think we've talked about this because
working from home sounds great, right, but it comes with
there are layers of struggle street where the guilts you
get as a parent. So I work from home and
the school holidays was actually quite a busy one for me.
(24:41):
Like sometimes I try and pump the breaks and give
myself a bitter free time, but I was actually quite
flooded with a lot on. And the kids will come
running in and you're in the middle of something really
and put Dakey jump on the tramp with me. And
there's times where you're like yeah, and then the next
day it's like no, I definitely can't. And they know this,
like Jody explains them, look down just to work, leave dad,
He'll be come up at lunchtime and then we can
(25:03):
do something, but they just can't. They're excited kids at school,
holidays and in and out, and you just the guilt
just builds up so bad. We're being able to leave
home and go and work. Sometimes I think would be
so good. You can be down the road and an office.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And mentalize it. Then you can go this is my
home life, this is my work life. And you don't
have the you don't have the guilt of seeing it.
Like I can see your window and I know outside
that window is where the children play, and they'll.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Run past the window and they'll tap on the window,
and I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Like, hey, you can just giggling And sounds like.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
A real pompous white person, first world problem that I'm
expressing here, like oh my my, I'm working from home.
It's so hard. I'm in such a luxurious position to
be working from home. I find it so difficult. I
apologize if it comes off like that, but I think
I don't think there are lots of I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Think it does. I don't think it does. I think
it's a very modern problem, like it didn't really exist
the internet.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Lots of work like this, I suppose lots of people
never went back after COVID as well.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Totally totally apparently, and all kinds of industries who are
doing it not just help employ people. So yeah, the
guilt would be real, it would be wrong.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
So the start of the school holidays was great because
the first two big kids had a tennis thing from
every day from nine to twelve pm for four days
in a row, a school holiday program, school heliday program,
tennis thing. So the pressure was off a lot. And
then there was an ice skating rink we heard got
set up. So I'm going to take you ice skating? Yeah.
Side note, is that true that we both have agreed
(26:34):
that we both had a rollerblade before? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I know how to rollerblade?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. So I'm an ice skate freak
and always have like I'm great, I'm great on ice skates.
The kids get there and they're like, no, you're not
going to be dead, and they're holding onto the wall
and I just pushed straight off, straight into the fast
but in the middle do a little spin, come over
to them that just say, whoa whoa dare? Where'd you
learn that? So? I took ye, I took me an
album to the skate rink. It just was not groomed
(26:58):
very well. Extremely busy, yeah, extremely busy, but it was good.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It was a real ice at least was it real ice?
You know how they have those purse bix ones now
where it.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Was it was real ice. It was cold as shit,
and man, just that you could put it a soundtrack
to it of just people falling around you. And I
said that da da da da crash crash, crash, Oh
and the crashes at an ice skate rink with kids
and adults learning and just head. I don't think I
don't think you should be here doing this anyway. I
(27:29):
didn't think much of the ice skate rink. Miela and
Albert bos was their favorite thing of the whole holiday.
And you forget how kids' brains work. Like here we are.
Mila will tell me stories all the time, Dad, do
you remember just three weeks ago we did that thing?
And she makes me feel senile and I'm like, no,
that I wasn't there, darling. She'sa liked, yes, you were,
what are you talking about? We did that? And then
(27:50):
it'll slowly come back to me. But for her it's
such a strong, like holy shit, that was awesome. I
was like, was having a fire at the beach, Like
we've done that before, but that's simple having a far
at the beach. They're like, what this is insane?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I saw this meme the other day and I saw
you do the fire. I saw dude Dad, who have
had on the podcast set up the movie theater in
the hole in the ground where they're digging new foundations
for their House's extreme.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
He's amazing and he just.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Put like an inflatable couch and a projector and a
sheet nail to the wall and they had a movie
night and a hole in the ground. And so those
are actually cool things that you've organized and with intentionally unintentionally,
you're creating memories with those kids. But it extends further
than that. So, like Miela remembering something it said one
of the memes, it said, to you, it's it's just
(28:39):
everyday stuff, but to them it's their childhood. And it
was like this guy who was going to the storage
unit to get something out of his storage unit and
the kids are riding on the trolley that you get
to go and get stuff out of the storage unit
from And my girls will do that all the time.
They'll be like, I can't remember a specific example, but
they'll be like, Dad, remember when you took us there
and we got to ride on those things. And you're like,
(29:01):
it's just a throwaway thing, but in beds in their memory, right,
and then their childhood is made up of a collection,
or their perceived memory of their childhood is made up
of all these moments that might not have felt significant
at the time, but if you were there and doing
it with them, then you know, like, I feel like
it has a bigger impact.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, And I think this also maybe gets us off
the hook a little bit without having to plan extremely
crazy over the top stuff Like I have the childhood
memory of garden centers and being allowed to pull the
trolley around a garden center. It was like a weakend thing.
My mum was a green thumb and we would go
to these garden centers and we were there for so long,
Like it would have been boring as an eleven twelve
(29:39):
year old, I would have hated it, but my memories
as younger than that was garden center was amazing. I
would drive this garden trolley through these little bits, like
it almost got caught on the agapanther but it didn't
because my driving ability was so good. Yeah, Mum was
so happy. And then we got a nice blot.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
We said to Tilly, what do you want to do
on your actual birthday day? I took the day off
work and I said, for your fifth birthday, you're in charge.
You get to decide what we do. So have a
think about it and in the morning tell us what
you want to do, and whatever it is, we will
go and do it. She chose going to min to
ten and going through the car wash. Those those were
(30:15):
the incredibly exciting things that she wanted to do for
her fifth birthday.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Mina ten. For those who don't know, it is like
your target hardware deeper sorry home depot in America, but yeah,
a hardware store where their kids can they have the
little mini trolleys for the kids in New Zealand. There's
a blim and cafe in it. Yes, there's a playground
in it, so they are hoping they can twist your
arm to get a fluffy and that you're going to
let them play on the playground, and that you'll let
them push a trolley up and down and if you're
(30:40):
a dad, just grab random things and then not get
if you have more than one kid, grab random things
and put them in the trolley and then just not
buy them at the end, because if you actually go
in and just grab one thing. I've had this multiple
times and the kids will fight. Dad put in my
trolley and you just one kid's trolley and then a.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Trolley.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's something good by trolley? What you freak out? You're like, look,
and so you put your wallet and keys and one
trolley and the other trip. That's not the same. Why
does she have this? So just.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I needed two things. I needed spray paint and like
fifteen minutes of drainage fifteen meters of drainage coil. So
fine to put a can of spray paint in one
of the kid's trolleys. The other kid either gets nothing
or they have to carry this huge bundle of black
drainage coil. The nightmare. So I got two. I got
two kens of spray paint.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You make them you want to carry something, You drag
this fifteen meters of coil through the bloody before we
get to your little finisher. Is my other note down?
Here was my debt. Usually we'd go over to Port
wakattor is my on the coast on the West coast, Newseum,
and my dad lives there. It's like Easter breaks, Christmas,
we're over there. He come and visited early on in
(31:53):
the holidays, and then I said, we're coming to yours
next week on like Monday. We think. He's like, no,
you're know, oh you can, but I'm not there. I
was like, okay, we probably won't then if you're not there,
was that where you going? I'm off of my OHI
right now he's in Europe. Your dad with my dad,
with his partner and his partner, all these people in
their sixties. Yeah, there's three couples of them. Yeah, like
(32:14):
little teenagers doing all the stuff me and Jody did
when we were like twenty one and twenty two when
we did O Owe. Dad is there doing it now,
small town dad who he's done. The only travel he's
ever done is like to the Pacific Islands. He's done
in Australia. Nothing massive, right, Yeah, So I think it's
so cool and classic is the classic grumble. I don't
really want to do this. It's you know, my missus
(32:36):
that's lined it all up. I'm not really cat king
six week. That's a long time, it's gonna be bloody
hot and we're going shut up, you're gonna love it.
And he every day it's like taking us back to
two thousand and five. Bibo days is photo dumping about
thirty photos a day to his Facebook page. He's not
in them. There's no caption of what it is. It's
just a thumb of a and a blurry thumb of
(32:58):
a bloody field and a shot of a high building.
But he's loving it. It's very cool. So we couldn't
go and see dad. But Dad's off. Dad's what his
dad sixty three, sixty four.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
You know, there's a there's a word for this. It's
quite popular at the moment. Your dad is skiing, s
k I spending the kid's inheritance. It's a trend for
boomers have got to retire in age and instead of
like squirreling it away for a rainy day or to
hand it down to the kids, they go skiing, they
(33:31):
go spend the kids inheritance. Or skin club is another one.
Spend the kids inheritance. Now join the skin club. Those
are the oldies that go on the cruisers and all
of that stuff, and they go and they and the
idea is to do it before your health gives out.
So where your dad might live quite happily for another
twenty years, he might not in five or ten years
(33:53):
time might not be nimble enough to trapes around Rome
or something like that. So the idea is, if you've
stopped working, go go now.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
My dad's mum, my grandma, she did this exact same
thing when she was seventy with a best friend and
she they they would stay at backpackers with young eighteen
year olds. She went over to Europe and did Europe
for like three weeks or a month, and they are
just hustling old grandparents where you get your free breakfast
at the hostel. They're making their gem sandwiches for the day,
(34:22):
them slipping them into their backpack, and they're like, we
lived on nothing, and they're fine because that's how they
that's how she's used to it. She's like, I will
save leftovers for a month. They'll be fine. Just keep
on heating it up every day. She'll be right. But yeah,
she did it when she was seventy, so that blew
the socks off and so for dad to actually be
over there now, but yeah, just very cute, you know,
(34:42):
that thing where we thought it was normal in two
thousand and six, two thousand and seven to do photo
album dumps of like thirty photos of nothing, the photos
doing it.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Do you think the photos are for him or are
they for you guys to keep up to date with
what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, yeah, of course they are. But I want to
write to like you don't want to call on but dead.
You can trim these numbers of photos down by a
lot and you can want to see you. We want
to see you or your partner or the rest of
the team. Like at the moment, it's just there's no
content we can see. We can see this on Google
street View if we want, Like, there's no context.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I can google the Leading Tower of Pisa. I can't
very funny you at the Leading Tower of Pisa.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, it's very funny. It's been everywhere and anywhere this episode,
because look we've been away for two weeks and we're
finally having a warm embrace right now. Yeah, but you
had something.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I just wanted to finish on this and we don't
bring a lot of this. We get a lot of
emails with a lot of stats because we do a
parenting podcast. We get a lot of approaches from a
lot of quote unquote experts and things like that. But
I'm in a real sort of because my daughter has
just started school. I'm in this phase of like making
sure that she's set up as best she can be
for the future, you know, in those sort of things.
(35:55):
We always have been, but particularly now, I'm like, Okay,
how do I gauge with her learning?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
How do I You've been contacted by Ugandan prince.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's up with me. He said, transfer
him ten thousand dollars and he will give my daughter
passage to any any Ivy League school she wants.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, it's legit, it's legit.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
This is stats from a Lego study that they did
specifically around girls and confidence and creativity for girls. And
I thought, because you've got exclusively girls and I've got
exclusively girls, that this was particularly relevant. It's a global study,
but they did include kids and parents from New Zealand.
(36:34):
It says that over half of children believe adults listen
more to boys creative ideas than they do of girls
creative ideas, and that girls creativity gets stifled with words
like because as a parent you say things like sweet, pretty,
cute and beautiful to girls, but boys are more used
to hearing things like brave, cool, genius, and innovative, and
(36:57):
you kind of do it by default looking.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Is that true? I definitely describe the artwork and things
that my girls do as beautiful, but I would call
it cool as well.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
It's because boys are boys are usually dumber. Okay, So
when your boy comes up with something amazing, When your
six year old seven year old boy who's just been
spinning around the circles in the backyard on his heel,
making him a cold for the last hour, actually stops
and comes in with something that he's done using his
brain and does something creative, you don't say beautiful. You
want to use words that make him feel like he genius. Legends,
(37:28):
You're like you are a genius bro. Bravo. Man, that's
the coolest thing I've ever seen. Where we used to
having the smartest little girls, and so when they just
flop creativity out in front of us again for the
seventy second time that day of making another amazing glitter
picture using the glue and all the colors we're just
we've seen, it doesn't blow our socks off because We're
(37:49):
used to it, so we're it's like, oh wow, that's
so cool. I think that's it without being I think, look,
i'm a guy, so I'm allowed to say this, right.
But us always were Let's just throw mud at each
other and pretend to shoot guns and that's and like,
let's go do a jump on our bike. But then
when we stop and do something like actually, what if
(38:10):
we did this jump like this and did this, and
we could jump this waterway and do this, and we'll
get the mom out to have a look, and you
film it and we do slow mo shot and then
we'll show the parents and then they're like, holy shit,
this is actually pretty Like this is some next level cinematography.
That's amazing, mate, you're a legit.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Hey, Jordans, that was that analysis was genius, that was innovative,
that was cool, that was brave. I'm giving you all
the boy words. I think you're right. As I watched
my girls create all day every day they paint the
whereas we have boy kids come over and they wrestle
and they and they fight, they do boy things.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Or they're like, oh what is I I want to
blame Rob want to I want to play Minecraft where Yeah,
the girls. Yeah, well I think you crack it. I
think it's we've become Yeah. I think it's a.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Good consideration to think about the language that you use, though,
because you don't want What I took from it is
you don't want beautiful to be the goal when you're speaking.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
You don't want to put so much pressure on appearance
and perfection that it sort of becomes the aspiration you
know you should reward.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I use awesome. I think awesome in my word. Yeah,
that's good.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Clever is a good one. I like to use clever.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
But I'm also I'm also the kind of person that
I won't praise because again, we've got girl I've got
girls that are constantly doing this kind of stuff, sewing
something or there, So I won't I won't give that
over the top praise unless it actually blows my socks off, Okay,
Like or if I see me Albert grab she can
see her sister's drawing. Sorry, then narla my youngest or
(39:48):
gra piece of paper just to catch up and quickly,
like just within twelve seconds and be like dad, what
do you think? And I'll say, mate, now you've completely
rushed that they've been sitting here for an hour working
on that. Okay, you could sit down. Hey, I think
you could do a way better horse than that if
you took your time, and then she will and I'll
do I'll happily do that.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
So you and there were they some competition within it
as well, well, I.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Think just not just just not praising just because look
I did something. Look I smeared shit on the wall.
Clip for me, Like, you don't want to be those parents,
because then they expect to be rewarded their whole life
for mediocre, every day shit.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
No participation certificates.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, no participating in that nam here. Depends on what
they're doing. Depends on what they're doing. But if you know,
if you've gone outside to do something and everyone's trying
to do something and they're putting their effort in and
then one of them just joined last minute and be
like but look in mine, dad, Like, I get it,
you're trying to get my attention. But you could do it. Hey, Albert,
that's cool. But hey, how about look, we've been stacking
this wood for ages and you've just come and checked
(40:47):
that on. How about we do a good job of
it and we'll see how you go and then at
the end look like you feel way better. I try
to have those American movie moments. I've talked about these,
and then you get back, you get down on one knee,
you look them in the eye, you try to wrap
up the day of the amazing thing, and they're just
like what's for dinner? Never ever ever works.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I reckon that'll do us. The one thing people are
asking us for in the DMS is to get you've
you've started a you've started a thing. People are asking
for the information about the allergy test that you did
with the snippet of the hair. You've got to find
out the details of what the test was.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
What it was in New Zealand site. Okay, I'm pretty
sure it's called ellergenics. Okay, And while Clint's here, we're
gonna I'm gonna keep you here while I open another
tab and I lose Clint. And what it gave you
the options of we laughed. You have to cut a
piece of your hair, a piece of your hair or
your fingernails. Yeah, it's allergenics. It's it's in New Zealand.
(41:43):
You just type in allergenics and it's a simple it's
a simple test. You either cut your fingernails or you
cut the back of your hair. Before we even talked
about it, Joe, you just come over with a pair
of scissors and cut a big chunk in the back
of my hair off. Okay, but I don't think we mentioned.
I don't know if you mentioned, but yeah, I got
tested a few months later. It turns out I can't
eat dairy. So that was fun find out at thirty six.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Has it changed your life?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, I flipp and hate. I can't enjoy burger now
and then I'll have it. But I have stopped having dairy.
And there's people that tell me, mate, it's you're going
to feel a whole new human. That hasn't happened yet.
And I've been off deiry for probably a couple of months. Yeah,
three months. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
And they did the same thing with alcohol, Like you
stopped drinking, you're going to feel incredible, Like I think
I feel the same.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
I think it's a placebo. They think that they but
the dairy one. I just like spaghetti, bolonnaise, no grated cheese,
no sour cream. You know, life's just life was an
eleven point five now it's now it's a nine.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah, just everything's a bit shitter for very little reward.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
And you said, my large oat hot chocolate please. It's
a little bit of a joke. It's my orders. I try
to whisper that. Now, can I have a large pipe?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
You've managed to make. You managed to make your grown
man's hot chocolate, even for embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Milkup, said my Tommy. They're like, can you would you
like a chocolate fish? I'm like, no, I can't a
kind of dairy chocolate, but can I have an extra marshall?
All right, guys, see you next week. There's been way
too much for ending for the first episode. Catch you
guys next week. We love you. Bye,
Hey guys, before we get into this week's episode, I
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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and welcome back to a brand new episode of The
Parenting Hangover. We're back after the school holidays and.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Boys energy, energy, Energy. We'll bring energy for the first
episode back. Because we've had holidays, were revived, we did
heaps of stuff, big life moments for Clint. Let's all
go whoa, Yeah, we still don't have a producer to
like fade up some cool energytic music right now. We've
probably just got our same music bed that's played as
it finished by now, the music that we used to hear.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
No, it's still going.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Okay, I'll try to but good catch up bep here.
We've had a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, we've got kids who have started school, We've got
kids who are taking up new sports. We're going to
finally get to the bottom of the allergy test that
Jordan talked about. While you snip the hair and you
guys are all asking what that is that's going to
come up and what was it going to talk about
the language that we use specifically around boys and girls
and what the difference is, why we do it and
what we should be doing to make sure that we're
(02:04):
reinforcing confidence and creativity amongst boys and girls equally.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
And I hustle the shit out of some people on Facebook,
market place listen.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
In as we sit here, Well we knew here. It'll
be four days, but for us it's two days since
the school holidays ended and the podcast holiday ended. So
we're back. The kids are back at school or kindy
or wherever they need to be. And I don't know,
feeling feeling good, feeling good? Did you have a good break?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, we're meant to come back refresh. Thatn't we having
a little giving ourselves a little two week break? But
you know it's also two weeks of just juggling, a
lot of juggling. Do you did you have the did
you have a full two week radio break as well?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
No? I stupidly have organized that for two weeks time
from now. Okay, so just in the middle of nothing.
Kids will still be at school. It'll be a holiday
for me. I won't really do anything days of sitting
around the house. Lucy said to me that she's going
to need a holiday from my holiday. After the holiday
because there's nothing planned. So she goes, do just be
a pain in my ass the whole time hanging out
(03:10):
around the house.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh, you'll get back out there and you're outdoor backyard
gear and do some more stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Don't even talk to me about that. Are we going
to kick off the new season of the podcast talking
about our injuries or are we not going to talk
about injuries this season?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Nah, because I'm currently I have a new one as well,
and I thought people don't want to hear that we
break down, and so we're not going over injuries. I
think what we do kick off is something highly emotive.
It kind of ended the last last episode we did
was you having the big epiphany around your kid going
to school and big moments and kid graduating from Kendy.
(03:49):
So I think we throw it straight to you with
what because I saw it, you shared it. What's just happened?
What big things just happened?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Mate? My daughter Tilly has just started school. Her first
day of school was yes she turned five in the
school holidays, right in the middle of the school holidays.
She had a KINDI graduation in the last week of
last term, and then yesterday she went off to school.
And man, she did a good job. She absolutely smashed it.
(04:16):
She's been incredibly excited about starting school.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
We sort of put all this pressure.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
On this milestone and wonder how kids are going to
take it and all this stuff. But she was just
excited the whole time, like she was doing a daily countdown,
and she was like, five days until I become a schoolgirl,
four days until I become a school girl. And she
quite literally came bounding down the stairs yesterday morning, Monday morning,
and she was like, Dad, it's school day, which is
(04:42):
the best thing that you can hope for?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Right? Did you go to drop off? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I went to the first drop off.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeap with it and no tears. I I like, no,
not from you, from her?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
No, none from her?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Wow, we got there. We hung her bag on her hook,
and her jacket we made or she knew where her
lunch box went. But she'd already done a couple of visits,
like they go for like two hours in the morning
to sort of slowly ease them, and they're meant to
do four visits over four weeks where they sit in
the classroom for two hours and you leave them for those.
So she'd already experienced that. But even then, even for
(05:17):
those visits, she was fine. And she the bell rang
and she went running off to her class, so much
so that we hadn't even said goodbye to her. And
Lucy was like, hey, can I can I get a
like can I get a cuddle? Can I get a cuddle?
Have a good day? And she's like yeah, yeah, I'm fine, Yeah, yeah, okay,
bye bye bye, and she ran and sat on sat
on the mat directly in front of the teacher, looking
up with a teacher, and I just went, she's one
(05:38):
hundred percent fine.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
She's This is really to me rare. This is amazing,
but very rare. Like, yeah, you start to have their
moat where you still at that age. I have to
walk them into the class, make sure everything's alive. They
kind of cling to you for a bit and you
pry them off and everything. So and then there'll be
a moment they'll become their second year of school and
that's when they're like, see you don't care about your parents,
I'm fine, catch you up. Yeah, your kid's doing it.
(06:02):
First day.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Just there's I talked about it a few podcasts ago
where there was this tipping point with Tilly my daughter,
she's my oldest daughter, and she had always been a
real skinny cat, like a real clinger. Hard to get
her to try anything new, like to go down a
slide at the playground, or to do her swimming lessons
and things like that. And then it's hard to attribute
(06:26):
it to one thing, but I feel like it's when
we changed swimming lessons and we put her in the
swim school where the teachers are just amazing, and it's
that old school kind of just pushed them into the
pool and know that they'll be okay, and they're like,
you're all right, You're all right, don't give them any
time to complain. And they say to the parents, you
go and sit over there, you stay out of the way.
(06:46):
And since they did that, she has just her confidence
in every area has changed, and it flows over into
things like starting school.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
She just she.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Actually craves it, like trying new things.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, you go to a playground, she'd be like, I
want to do that. I want to do that. Do
you think I'm big enough to do that? And the
fear is one hundred percent gone, and she's like she's
she's really excited to try new things. And to see
what she's capable of doing.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The awesome thing is is that that's awesome she's doing
that now because that's what Maggie has to look up to. Yeah,
where we had, like Miela was very much stayed in
her shell, and she's busted her shell down now in
her later years, but not as early as what you're saying.
You know, she's still very much a timid kid new
things or I don't know, but now it's like hold
(07:34):
her back and then Albert that's rubbed off on Alba
and now Nala, as we've explained million times, is the scared,
like I'm scared for her life. It's just that I'm
going to go up this I'm going to jump this waterfall,
see that rope, see that tree that everyone's doing, mone
who's out of like the big grown man. I'm going
to climb that tree and go pop a money and
do a big cannonball.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I saw the video of her having a running race
against your wife over the holidays. She's so fast, man,
she's rappers.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
She's faster than Jody. We were at the mount, we
had an ice cream and then we're just a fair.
We're a kind of family. That don't sit down. We
can't just sit, so we start the kids start doing
running races. Then I limber up my back and we're
timing it on our phone. Yeah, so you got to
run down here around that drain to the tree and
back and we're timing booth. Mela, that was slow, and
(08:21):
then Narla got real close to Albert Melas's time. So
then they take it more seriously and they bip and
they're like, I've got the fastest. And I was like, Jody,
it's your turn, Please don't lose. Like you're not. She goes.
Jody goes to the gym. She isn't one of these
mums who was scared to do physical activity. Like she's
into things like don't you lose to Nala? Go old
time you book? Oh mate, she's the last. She's officially
(08:44):
the last of the family. And man, it made me.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Narla has the most amazing center of gravity. Watching those
pictures like, cornering is not an issue for her.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You just saw it.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, you can describe her as before and that's she
definitely is. She looks like to me when I watched it,
she looked like a tiny Brian Habana, Like she just Bam.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
She reminds me of the is it Simon Biles American gymnasts. Yeah,
I'm like, because Nala is doing a little cute after
school young kid gymnastic lessons and yeah, she's just this
little balls. She hasn't had the Yeah, she hasn't had
the period where kids arms and legs are still figuring
(09:27):
out which one goes forward first. And she's just come
out And again it could be the youngest kid thing,
or she's just born this natural ball of I don't know.
We don't want to let it go away.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
So if we can see this channel something, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Right now I've got a kid who's just a ball
of energy muscle.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Just to wrap up the school thing. The other side
of it is, so if you have more than one
child and one of them is starting school, I've realized
that you have to you have to channel that positivity
into the kid who's not going to school as well.
Like I had a realization there there was a lot
of celebration for this milestone that Twoey was about to achieve.
Plus her birthday was in the middle of that, so
(10:05):
it's been very too eccentric for the last month.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Pretty much, it's Kendy finish, birthday, yeah, school starting.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, her graduation ceremony, her birthday, her party, her presence,
her starting school. So there's been like a conscious effort
to celebrate Maggie on certain things too. And so for
the last week, it's been five days until school starts
and then you catch yourself and you go and five
days until kindy starts up again.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, and Meggie's really good.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
She's looking for any chance to celebrate things. And she's like, yeah,
my first day of candy again. We're like, yeah, that's right,
that's exactly that's the attitude. So she's good. But it's
been a it's been an important because I felt bad
for her because she's she's really good. But any she's
only three and so two he's getting all these presents
(10:54):
and all these things, and she took it. She took
it all well. But every I think maybe one or
two people, the grandparents and the neighbor, got Maggie a
present too on Toy's birthday, which I know is a
dangerous precedent to set, but it kind of helped to
take the edge off it a bit.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, well that's when we loop back to our hated
Goodie bags. You should have a goodie bag, Baite. It's
the one time is you can give your own younger
child a goodie bag, just so birthdays are smooth sailor
and not where the hell is my Barbie Princess stole house?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Exactly exactly with something. We booked a place for Toy's
birthday party. We decided we didn't want the admin of
all these kids in the house, and we booked this
like chipmunks type place an Auckland. It's called Magic Loft,
and you get a room to have your cat, You
bring the cake, and they supplied hot schappes and hot
dogs and goodie bags for all of the kids that
(11:46):
were there, which I know will really fire you up,
but we didn't organize them. But it does help to
reinforce the notion to kids that every party you go
to you get a goodie bag.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yes, goodie bags the bane of the economy. Mate, goodie bags.
I like to think that this year goodie bags aren't
happening because people weigh it up. They wait because yeah,
and cost a living and survived to twenty five mates
survived to twenty five. Speaking of survived till twenty five,
we go to the snow every year. I think since
(12:15):
the kids have been very little, we try and get
away to the snow and we're not extreme people who
are there for like two weeks and I'm doing backflips
and the kids are great, like they're all still very
beginner stage, but they ski. I'm the cool snowboard dad.
And I was like, we hire so much gear when
we go, I'm going to pull the band aid off
and buy not new. So I spent Saturday morning. I
(12:37):
was like, give me half an hour Facebook marketplace. I'm
gonna go nuts. I'm gonna find everything I need. Ye Ah.
It was like everyone knew, just leave dad, he's in
a Facebook marketplace like focused. I was at the I
was at the table just with my phone. I had
two phones out because one one I'm figuring out what
size skis the kids need and I've got all that out,
and then the other I'm checking and you're hustling. Yeah.
(12:59):
People are like, I got ski boots sixty bucks and
I'm just missing straight away forty bucks cash pick up
today and then they're like, yeah, done, great, so I
mark that one down. They're ready, and where are they
in Toto on a because I want to try and
do one trip to what this week is just God
become the very much dad going weird one off trips
for like half an hour and then when you stop
and add up the time and the petrol money that
(13:21):
I've spent, I don't know. Maybe we should just hired them,
but I'm happy for because hiring, I think is like
a combo case, like forty bucks a day, and if
you go for three days, that's one hundred and twenty
bucks per caoor. Yeah, per kid. I've spent about one
twenty to one fifty per kid for secondhand skis and
boots for them to have. So Mela's ones, right, We'll
(13:43):
she'll go out and we'll have to sell their next year.
But then album will move into them. Sorry sorry, Narla's
we'll have to give away and then Narla will move
up into our like you.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Might lodge it. You might have spent one hundred and
twenty each year getting the top end, getting the next
size up. Yeah, but then you can eventually sell the
ones at the bottom. Nyla has grown out up. This
is this is a dead math exactly. We talk a
lot about girl math, but this is dead man.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
This is this is dad man. Math, And the best
dad Math moment was my wife completely forgot that I
know three seasons ago, Like I just always struggled with
snowboarding boots when we hired them. I've got wide feet
and they would just get so sore within like half
an hour. I'm wanting to take my boots off up
the mountain because my f so I'm like a size twelve.
(14:25):
I would go and ask them for like size fourteen
ski boots just so they would be wider, and Jodie goes,
just go and get something. By I want you to
buy snowboard boots, you can just shut up. So did
that a few years ago. Now we're at the point
we were trying to get everyone their own skis. So
we've got Joe, I've found Jody sick InHand skins, and
then it come to boots. And in my head I
(14:45):
was waiting for her to say I might actually buy
boots that are actually proper for me. And because she'll
be like, hey, you got new ski boots.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I get new ski book.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Years ago and she's completely forgotten and we know she
hasn't really listened to the podcast, and right now I
have shown her a Fuwer marketplace and she's like, I
really want white ones though I really want what.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
I want them.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Okay, we'll painted, okay. And I found this and then
someone sent me this website. There's a place down in
christ Church. They import x ski gear from Europe from
ski rental gear yea ex rental gear, and they sell it.
They have stored and a container and they list things
and they sell them through their shops. So I found
some boots for Jody on there that I will show
(15:31):
her today and or look like a legit website. She
won't know that they're sick had.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So instead of getting her a pair of boats that
have been owned by and worn by one person previously,
you'll get her a pair of boats that have been
worn by about three to four hundred people.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Many European athletes. And if it rubs off that kind
of athletes from Europe can actually rub off and give
her some skiing ability, like she might get even better
through the fungus that grows between her toes, and the
fungus takes over and it's like left right left.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
So it's a noble that. It's a noble quest. And
I've enjoyed watching the updates on it. You finding the bits.
I think it's good. The real cost savings are going
to come from going to the snow multiple times though,
you know, because one hand and twenty times per twenty
dollars per visit per child to rent the gear. But
if you go three times, mate, you're winning.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, so, which we are planning to do this year
because side note, you always want to keep your ears
out when you move anywhere in you and someone say
oh we've got a batch and fum your day. Oh
we've got a batch down here. We've got friends that
have a batch down in or Cooney yes, And we're
like yo, yo, yeah, I don't want to be their guy.
But anyway, they invited us on like with them and
(16:41):
another family last year. It's amazing. It sits there empty
and I'm like, yo, yep, Jody, should we be heading
them up to and they're just say yes, use it,
get in there and use it. But I hate it.
They're those kind of people. They're so kind and I
want to we want to pay you like yes something
because they're not they're not using it as a booker
batch and I want to pay you something like no,
(17:02):
it's like ten dollars no. And they even if you
just chuck the water cash on them, they would chase
you and chuck it back. Yeah. Yeah, Like so I
want to think of something cool that we can do well,
like as gift door.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You've got to you've got to go with non refundable
things like baking and cooking and things.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Ye're all like full the cupboards, like if you shop
a grocery shop of because they've got teenage like a
teenage son.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, yeah, non verishables, so that they.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
But yeah, so we're going. We're going in August for
a few days on our own, like two or three nights,
and then we're going in September with them and another family,
and then we might try and go again another time
in September. Yeah, right, and only only really checking on
that third trip because I've gone through the effort of
getting so much stuff from Facebook marketplace.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It's going to cost you, costing you more because you're
going to bed of the snow so many times. But memories, memories, memories.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
We we yeah, exactly, you're you're right there. Yeah, we
are taking the kids out of school to the right
and this year the big I don't know if you
would have caught wind of it, but the big little
whispers and news and school emails that come out is
truancy issues. And there's been rumors of parents saying, oh,
we're not doing our week like wealthier parents saying, we're
(18:16):
not taking the kids to the islands this year like
we do every year because apparently we're not allowed. We
used to take the kids out for six days. But
I'm like, h Santa Jody, what happens? Are they just
going to say, hey, tut tut tut, you can't do that.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, it's on the school. It's the school that gets penalized,
not you. Oh yeah, it's a real big thing with
this new government. It's one of the one of the
real bug bears.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I shouldn't have said this out loud on the podcast,
that we're just like, well.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
That from what I know about it, they're holding the
schools accountable for truancy and for like you have to
have a certain percentage of days attended by schools by
kids averaged across the whole school. So the school will
be putting that pressure back onto you. But yeah, I
don't know, you're not going to get like, what are
they really? What are they going to do? They can't
find you. I'm not saying usual.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
We're both from tight knit little schools, the intermediate and
the primary. So I'll one hundred percent chat to some
of the teachers and get a vibe on yo, if
we want to go to the snow yeah, And even
if they say no, please don't. I mean, I'll stand
up and argue that this is life. It's a life
life less like they're like learning things about you got
to do the maths on right? Am I going to
(19:29):
hit that person if I carry on this line on
my skis so I don't know how to turn? Or
am I one hundred percent going to hit that person
because dad hasn't taught me how to turn? Like there's
a lot of math geometry.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
If you take a kid out of school to go
and do something like that, do you ask the teacher
for stuff that the kid needs to catch up on
while they're out or you just no?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Maybe with me we will. But the other two at
the primary school age they're at, I know, New Zealand
we are falling behind a little bit with the levels
that were meant to be at. But at Nahla's age,
I'm like, what if she missed out on these two days?
That she's been away. Oh wow, we did the clappy
song and you know what I mean. They go over
(20:12):
things so repetitively at that young age that I'm not
two stress Alba though, we definitely look at it. The
middle kid, Alba, who's nine, she has just opened the
floodgates of wanting to do everything she was last year.
I just do my one once a week tennis, and
I like that because it's not a team sport and
it's just me and I know another girl there and
that's all I want to do. Stop talking to me.
(20:32):
And now it's I do drama. And now I'm in
a netball team, and now I've put my hand up
for Kapa hakka. And then I was in the school
and now she's in the school choir, and she has
all these So she's the hardest one where we actually
all these little things are in the calendar. Well we
can't go. Then she's got a choir performance and we
can't go. Then she has a couple of hacker performance,
we can't go. Then she has choir training and she
(20:53):
won't want to miss it. So she's actually the hardest
one to squeeze it. Yeah, she's in choir bro.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I was in school choir.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I was in Yeah, I was in primary school choir.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I did school choir, couple hacker, soccer, hockey, basketball, rugby,
speech and drama.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Well you you were too hard out guitar lessons. Were
you in the school drama performance at the primary school? Yeah?
And did you go for the lead and not get it?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Yeah, a couple of times, and then in my last
year I got it, so yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Oh well no, yeah, no, yeah, I would have got
it too. I was just sick. My voice wasn't hurt there,
but I definitely where we did Joseph and the Technic
Color Dream Coach and I went up there and sug
my little heart out for the lead, think it like
so confident? Yeah, I was like I got this. And
then it turns out my friend Cole Town's end could
(21:43):
sing just those couple of octaves higher than me, and
that's what they were looking for. You know. Choir has
loved to all songs are up in that higher octave.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Especially.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yo, this is Joseph tech New cot like And so
I just got some bitroll. I played a couple of characters.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Were you were the lead, and you got a bit
roll at least I got like consolation roles where I
got like the best friend of the main character.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, no, Joseph didn't really have Joseph. You've either got
Joseph and the girl that he'd like. Oh, I was
the villain. There's the main villain, Potiphar. I was Potiphar.
And I had two lines Other than that, I was
out there, but I had two lines.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
What was Cole's last name? Again, Town's end such a
show business name.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
That's the issue, such a show.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
But I can imagine seeing Cole townsend up in lights.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You know, the voice, the voice of an angel can
just sing. He's still got it. He could strum it
out right now did he go? And it's weird, Like
I'll say to the kids, Cole, agree that the lyrics
stick with you forever. We are so old now and
I can sing here to remember a lot. I don't
know if you can remember all of it. But and
the video. My mom passed away a few years ago,
and she used to have the video of the school
(22:49):
performance on VHS. Yeah, and now no one knows where
the hell it is. I like, who took it? Where
to go? That is a gold mine.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
My mum has just offloaded my mom is the process
of doing a major downsizing, and she's just offloaded all
the family vhss to me.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Oh great, yeah, just no pressure. But you've got them.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I've got them.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm back. I'm that guy though, like in the family,
my older siblings and that would just shrug. Oh, I
don't want these old tapes. Yeah, I might give them here.
I want this history.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, them in the process of trying to get this
dongle thing, which she lets you record them into digital
files so that we can have them because there's family
movies in there.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
But then there's also a donga thing, a massive flashback
first episode of the Printing Hangover. Did you say you
need a donner? If you know what we're talking about
right now?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
A big black donger from the first episode of Printing Hangover.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
They are black and they have two the big black
donger that has three bits come off it. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah yeah full video video left, a video audio
left audio right. Yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, I need an r donner so I can keep
my files. Let's take a quick break and then I
want to come back and talk about something. It's not serious,
it's just like could be helpful for a.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Couple of girl dads. We're back. Hopefully some ads played there.
I listened to some podcasts where they're like, we'll be
back in a quick break, and then it's just them again.
The break never ahead.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Lot of the time, have you listened overseas to us too?
Never really adds.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Hah, we we'll just keep on flowing on. I had
things noted down, real quick fire stuff. We did school holidays.
It was tough. I think we've talked about this because
working from home sounds great, right, but it comes with
there are layers of struggle street where the guilts you
get as a parent. So I work from home and
the school holidays was actually quite a busy one for me.
(24:41):
Like sometimes I try and pump the breaks and give
myself a bitter free time, but I was actually quite
flooded with a lot on. And the kids will come
running in and you're in the middle of something really
and put Dakey jump on the tramp with me. And
there's times where you're like yeah, and then the next
day it's like no, I definitely can't. And they know this,
like Jody explains them, look down just to work, leave dad,
He'll be come up at lunchtime and then we can
(25:03):
do something, but they just can't. They're excited kids at school,
holidays and in and out, and you just the guilt
just builds up so bad. We're being able to leave
home and go and work. Sometimes I think would be
so good. You can be down the road and an office.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And mentalize it. Then you can go this is my
home life, this is my work life. And you don't
have the you don't have the guilt of seeing it.
Like I can see your window and I know outside
that window is where the children play, and they'll.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Run past the window and they'll tap on the window,
and I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Like, hey, you can just giggling And sounds like.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
A real pompous white person, first world problem that I'm
expressing here, like oh my my, I'm working from home.
It's so hard. I'm in such a luxurious position to
be working from home. I find it so difficult. I
apologize if it comes off like that, but I think
I don't think there are lots of I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Think it does. I don't think it does. I think
it's a very modern problem, like it didn't really exist
the internet.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Lots of work like this, I suppose lots of people
never went back after COVID as well.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Totally totally apparently, and all kinds of industries who are
doing it not just help employ people. So yeah, the
guilt would be real, it would be wrong.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
So the start of the school holidays was great because
the first two big kids had a tennis thing from
every day from nine to twelve pm for four days
in a row, a school holiday program, school heliday program,
tennis thing. So the pressure was off a lot. And
then there was an ice skating rink we heard got
set up. So I'm going to take you ice skating? Yeah.
Side note, is that true that we both have agreed
(26:34):
that we both had a rollerblade before? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I know how to rollerblade?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. So I'm an ice skate freak
and always have like I'm great, I'm great on ice skates.
The kids get there and they're like, no, you're not
going to be dead, and they're holding onto the wall
and I just pushed straight off, straight into the fast
but in the middle do a little spin, come over
to them that just say, whoa whoa dare? Where'd you
learn that? So? I took ye, I took me an
album to the skate rink. It just was not groomed
(26:58):
very well. Extremely busy, yeah, extremely busy, but it was good.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It was a real ice at least was it real ice?
You know how they have those purse bix ones now
where it.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Was it was real ice. It was cold as shit,
and man, just that you could put it a soundtrack
to it of just people falling around you. And I
said that da da da da crash crash, crash, Oh
and the crashes at an ice skate rink with kids
and adults learning and just head. I don't think I
don't think you should be here doing this anyway. I
(27:29):
didn't think much of the ice skate rink. Miela and
Albert bos was their favorite thing of the whole holiday.
And you forget how kids' brains work. Like here we are.
Mila will tell me stories all the time, Dad, do
you remember just three weeks ago we did that thing?
And she makes me feel senile and I'm like, no,
that I wasn't there, darling. She'sa liked, yes, you were,
what are you talking about? We did that? And then
(27:50):
it'll slowly come back to me. But for her it's
such a strong, like holy shit, that was awesome. I
was like, was having a fire at the beach, Like
we've done that before, but that's simple having a far
at the beach. They're like, what this is insane?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I saw this meme the other day and I saw
you do the fire. I saw dude Dad, who have
had on the podcast set up the movie theater in
the hole in the ground where they're digging new foundations
for their House's extreme.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
He's amazing and he just.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Put like an inflatable couch and a projector and a
sheet nail to the wall and they had a movie
night and a hole in the ground. And so those
are actually cool things that you've organized and with intentionally unintentionally,
you're creating memories with those kids. But it extends further
than that. So, like Miela remembering something it said one
of the memes, it said, to you, it's it's just
(28:39):
everyday stuff, but to them it's their childhood. And it
was like this guy who was going to the storage
unit to get something out of his storage unit and
the kids are riding on the trolley that you get
to go and get stuff out of the storage unit
from And my girls will do that all the time.
They'll be like, I can't remember a specific example, but
they'll be like, Dad, remember when you took us there
and we got to ride on those things. And you're like,
(29:01):
it's just a throwaway thing, but in beds in their memory, right,
and then their childhood is made up of a collection,
or their perceived memory of their childhood is made up
of all these moments that might not have felt significant
at the time, but if you were there and doing
it with them, then you know, like, I feel like
it has a bigger impact.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, And I think this also maybe gets us off
the hook a little bit without having to plan extremely
crazy over the top stuff Like I have the childhood
memory of garden centers and being allowed to pull the
trolley around a garden center. It was like a weakend thing.
My mum was a green thumb and we would go
to these garden centers and we were there for so long,
Like it would have been boring as an eleven twelve
(29:39):
year old, I would have hated it, but my memories
as younger than that was garden center was amazing. I
would drive this garden trolley through these little bits, like
it almost got caught on the agapanther but it didn't
because my driving ability was so good. Yeah, Mum was
so happy. And then we got a nice blot.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
We said to Tilly, what do you want to do
on your actual birthday day? I took the day off
work and I said, for your fifth birthday, you're in charge.
You get to decide what we do. So have a
think about it and in the morning tell us what
you want to do, and whatever it is, we will
go and do it. She chose going to min to
ten and going through the car wash. Those those were
(30:15):
the incredibly exciting things that she wanted to do for
her fifth birthday.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Mina ten. For those who don't know, it is like
your target hardware deeper sorry home depot in America, but yeah,
a hardware store where their kids can they have the
little mini trolleys for the kids in New Zealand. There's
a blim and cafe in it. Yes, there's a playground
in it, so they are hoping they can twist your
arm to get a fluffy and that you're going to
let them play on the playground, and that you'll let
them push a trolley up and down and if you're
(30:40):
a dad, just grab random things and then not get
if you have more than one kid, grab random things
and put them in the trolley and then just not
buy them at the end, because if you actually go
in and just grab one thing. I've had this multiple
times and the kids will fight. Dad put in my
trolley and you just one kid's trolley and then a.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Trolley.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's something good by trolley? What you freak out? You're like, look,
and so you put your wallet and keys and one
trolley and the other trip. That's not the same. Why
does she have this? So just.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I needed two things. I needed spray paint and like
fifteen minutes of drainage fifteen meters of drainage coil. So
fine to put a can of spray paint in one
of the kid's trolleys. The other kid either gets nothing
or they have to carry this huge bundle of black
drainage coil. The nightmare. So I got two. I got
two kens of spray paint.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
You make them you want to carry something, You drag
this fifteen meters of coil through the bloody before we
get to your little finisher. Is my other note down?
Here was my debt. Usually we'd go over to Port
wakattor is my on the coast on the West coast, Newseum,
and my dad lives there. It's like Easter breaks, Christmas,
we're over there. He come and visited early on in
(31:53):
the holidays, and then I said, we're coming to yours
next week on like Monday. We think. He's like, no,
you're know, oh you can, but I'm not there. I
was like, okay, we probably won't then if you're not there,
was that where you going? I'm off of my OHI
right now he's in Europe. Your dad with my dad,
with his partner and his partner, all these people in
their sixties. Yeah, there's three couples of them. Yeah, like
(32:14):
little teenagers doing all the stuff me and Jody did
when we were like twenty one and twenty two when
we did O Owe. Dad is there doing it now,
small town dad who he's done. The only travel he's
ever done is like to the Pacific Islands. He's done
in Australia. Nothing massive, right, Yeah, So I think it's
so cool and classic is the classic grumble. I don't
really want to do this. It's you know, my missus
(32:36):
that's lined it all up. I'm not really cat king
six week. That's a long time, it's gonna be bloody
hot and we're going shut up, you're gonna love it.
And he every day it's like taking us back to
two thousand and five. Bibo days is photo dumping about
thirty photos a day to his Facebook page. He's not
in them. There's no caption of what it is. It's
just a thumb of a and a blurry thumb of
(32:58):
a bloody field and a shot of a high building.
But he's loving it. It's very cool. So we couldn't
go and see dad. But Dad's off. Dad's what his
dad sixty three, sixty four.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
You know, there's a there's a word for this. It's
quite popular at the moment. Your dad is skiing, s
k I spending the kid's inheritance. It's a trend for
boomers have got to retire in age and instead of
like squirreling it away for a rainy day or to
hand it down to the kids, they go skiing, they
(33:31):
go spend the kids inheritance. Or skin club is another one.
Spend the kids inheritance. Now join the skin club. Those
are the oldies that go on the cruisers and all
of that stuff, and they go and they and the
idea is to do it before your health gives out.
So where your dad might live quite happily for another
twenty years, he might not in five or ten years
(33:53):
time might not be nimble enough to trapes around Rome
or something like that. So the idea is, if you've
stopped working, go go now.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
My dad's mum, my grandma, she did this exact same
thing when she was seventy with a best friend and
she they they would stay at backpackers with young eighteen
year olds. She went over to Europe and did Europe
for like three weeks or a month, and they are
just hustling old grandparents where you get your free breakfast
at the hostel. They're making their gem sandwiches for the day,
(34:22):
them slipping them into their backpack, and they're like, we
lived on nothing, and they're fine because that's how they
that's how she's used to it. She's like, I will
save leftovers for a month. They'll be fine. Just keep
on heating it up every day. She'll be right. But yeah,
she did it when she was seventy, so that blew
the socks off and so for dad to actually be
over there now, but yeah, just very cute, you know,
(34:42):
that thing where we thought it was normal in two
thousand and six, two thousand and seven to do photo
album dumps of like thirty photos of nothing, the photos
doing it.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Do you think the photos are for him or are
they for you guys to keep up to date with
what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, yeah, of course they are. But I want to
write to like you don't want to call on but dead.
You can trim these numbers of photos down by a
lot and you can want to see you. We want
to see you or your partner or the rest of
the team. Like at the moment, it's just there's no
content we can see. We can see this on Google
street View if we want, Like, there's no context.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I can google the Leading Tower of Pisa. I can't
very funny you at the Leading Tower of Pisa.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, it's very funny. It's been everywhere and anywhere this episode,
because look we've been away for two weeks and we're
finally having a warm embrace right now. Yeah, but you
had something.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I just wanted to finish on this and we don't
bring a lot of this. We get a lot of
emails with a lot of stats because we do a
parenting podcast. We get a lot of approaches from a
lot of quote unquote experts and things like that. But
I'm in a real sort of because my daughter has
just started school. I'm in this phase of like making
sure that she's set up as best she can be
for the future, you know, in those sort of things.
(35:55):
We always have been, but particularly now, I'm like, Okay,
how do I gauge with her learning?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
How do I You've been contacted by Ugandan prince.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's up with me. He said, transfer
him ten thousand dollars and he will give my daughter
passage to any any Ivy League school she wants.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, it's legit, it's legit.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
This is stats from a Lego study that they did
specifically around girls and confidence and creativity for girls. And
I thought, because you've got exclusively girls and I've got
exclusively girls, that this was particularly relevant. It's a global study,
but they did include kids and parents from New Zealand.
(36:34):
It says that over half of children believe adults listen
more to boys creative ideas than they do of girls
creative ideas, and that girls creativity gets stifled with words
like because as a parent you say things like sweet, pretty,
cute and beautiful to girls, but boys are more used
to hearing things like brave, cool, genius, and innovative, and
(36:57):
you kind of do it by default looking.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Is that true? I definitely describe the artwork and things
that my girls do as beautiful, but I would call
it cool as well.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
It's because boys are boys are usually dumber. Okay, So
when your boy comes up with something amazing, When your
six year old seven year old boy who's just been
spinning around the circles in the backyard on his heel,
making him a cold for the last hour, actually stops
and comes in with something that he's done using his
brain and does something creative, you don't say beautiful. You
want to use words that make him feel like he genius. Legends,
(37:28):
You're like you are a genius bro. Bravo. Man, that's
the coolest thing I've ever seen. Where we used to
having the smartest little girls, and so when they just
flop creativity out in front of us again for the
seventy second time that day of making another amazing glitter
picture using the glue and all the colors we're just
we've seen, it doesn't blow our socks off because We're
(37:49):
used to it, so we're it's like, oh wow, that's
so cool. I think that's it without being I think, look,
i'm a guy, so I'm allowed to say this, right.
But us always were Let's just throw mud at each
other and pretend to shoot guns and that's and like,
let's go do a jump on our bike. But then
when we stop and do something like actually, what if
(38:10):
we did this jump like this and did this, and
we could jump this waterway and do this, and we'll
get the mom out to have a look, and you
film it and we do slow mo shot and then
we'll show the parents and then they're like, holy shit,
this is actually pretty Like this is some next level cinematography.
That's amazing, mate, you're a legit.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Hey, Jordans, that was that analysis was genius, that was innovative,
that was cool, that was brave. I'm giving you all
the boy words. I think you're right. As I watched
my girls create all day every day they paint the
whereas we have boy kids come over and they wrestle
and they and they fight, they do boy things.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Or they're like, oh what is I I want to
blame Rob want to I want to play Minecraft where Yeah,
the girls. Yeah, well I think you crack it. I
think it's we've become Yeah. I think it's a.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Good consideration to think about the language that you use, though,
because you don't want What I took from it is
you don't want beautiful to be the goal when you're speaking.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
You don't want to put so much pressure on appearance
and perfection that it sort of becomes the aspiration you
know you should reward.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
I use awesome. I think awesome in my word. Yeah,
that's good.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Clever is a good one. I like to use clever.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
But I'm also I'm also the kind of person that
I won't praise because again, we've got girl I've got
girls that are constantly doing this kind of stuff, sewing
something or there, So I won't I won't give that
over the top praise unless it actually blows my socks off, Okay,
Like or if I see me Albert grab she can
see her sister's drawing. Sorry, then narla my youngest or
(39:48):
gra piece of paper just to catch up and quickly,
like just within twelve seconds and be like dad, what
do you think? And I'll say, mate, now you've completely
rushed that they've been sitting here for an hour working
on that. Okay, you could sit down. Hey, I think
you could do a way better horse than that if
you took your time, and then she will and I'll
do I'll happily do that.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
So you and there were they some competition within it
as well, well, I.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Think just not just just not praising just because look
I did something. Look I smeared shit on the wall.
Clip for me, Like, you don't want to be those parents,
because then they expect to be rewarded their whole life
for mediocre, every day shit.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
No participation certificates.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, no participating in that nam here. Depends on what
they're doing. Depends on what they're doing. But if you know,
if you've gone outside to do something and everyone's trying
to do something and they're putting their effort in and
then one of them just joined last minute and be
like but look in mine, dad, Like, I get it,
you're trying to get my attention. But you could do it. Hey, Albert,
that's cool. But hey, how about look, we've been stacking
this wood for ages and you've just come and checked
(40:47):
that on. How about we do a good job of
it and we'll see how you go and then at
the end look like you feel way better. I try
to have those American movie moments. I've talked about these,
and then you get back, you get down on one knee,
you look them in the eye, you try to wrap
up the day of the amazing thing, and they're just
like what's for dinner? Never ever ever works.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I reckon that'll do us. The one thing people are
asking us for in the DMS is to get you've
you've started a you've started a thing. People are asking
for the information about the allergy test that you did
with the snippet of the hair. You've got to find
out the details of what the test was.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
What it was in New Zealand site. Okay, I'm pretty
sure it's called ellergenics. Okay, And while Clint's here, we're
gonna I'm gonna keep you here while I open another
tab and I lose Clint. And what it gave you
the options of we laughed. You have to cut a
piece of your hair, a piece of your hair or
your fingernails. Yeah, it's allergenics. It's it's in New Zealand.
(41:43):
You just type in allergenics and it's a simple it's
a simple test. You either cut your fingernails or you
cut the back of your hair. Before we even talked
about it, Joe, you just come over with a pair
of scissors and cut a big chunk in the back
of my hair off. Okay, but I don't think we mentioned.
I don't know if you mentioned, but yeah, I got
tested a few months later. It turns out I can't
eat dairy. So that was fun find out at thirty six.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Has it changed your life?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, I flipp and hate. I can't enjoy burger now
and then I'll have it. But I have stopped having dairy.
And there's people that tell me, mate, it's you're going
to feel a whole new human. That hasn't happened yet.
And I've been off deiry for probably a couple of months. Yeah,
three months. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
And they did the same thing with alcohol, Like you
stopped drinking, you're going to feel incredible, Like I think
I feel the same.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
I think it's a placebo. They think that they but
the dairy one. I just like spaghetti, bolonnaise, no grated cheese,
no sour cream. You know, life's just life was an
eleven point five now it's now it's a nine.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Yeah, just everything's a bit shitter for very little reward.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
And you said, my large oat hot chocolate please. It's
a little bit of a joke. It's my orders. I try
to whisper that. Now, can I have a large pipe?
Speaker 1 (42:50):
You've managed to make. You managed to make your grown
man's hot chocolate, even for embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Milkup, said my Tommy. They're like, can you would you
like a chocolate fish? I'm like, no, I can't a
kind of dairy chocolate, but can I have an extra marshall?
All right, guys, see you next week. There's been way
too much for ending for the first episode. Catch you
guys next week. We love you. Bye,
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