October 30, 2024 • 42 mins
We have some sad news...this is the final episode of The Parenting Hangover. It's been an incredibly fun and rewarding journey, but all good things must come to an end, and this is ours.
Thank you from the bottom of our big dad-hearts for all of your support, feedback and listens. Connecting with other parents about this crazy parenting thing has been a huge privilege.
You can keep up with both of us on our socials @howtodadnz and @clinstagramm
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
This is an iHeartRadio New Zealand podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
All right, well, look should we start with a beer?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Should we start with a yeah? Lessen Hi, Hello, Hello,
Lidien Jo and welcome to Between Two.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Beers, a very.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Successful New Zealand podcast that we're going to plug quickly.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Great podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You've been on it. You were a great guest.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Right, do we get this out of the way early.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, just get it done. Me and Clint have adopted
a child. We have both left. Clint has left Lucy,
I have left Jody. We've forgotten the kids that we
have already in the last five days since you've heard
about us, and we are now together, and we have
adopted a child that is with us right now.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We're having that baby that we talked about about twelve
podcasts ago.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, say hello Apple.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Nah, we're shutting the podcast down.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
This is the last one. This is the last one. Guys. Look,
we could have built it up. We could have told
you last week and tease it. But look, we didn't
want to have a whole self source episode where look,
the Instagram page would have just crashed with all the
voice memos and all the sexy Irish voices that come
through like, I love you so much. It's been such
(01:30):
a great time. Thank you so much. We know we
know it guys, great little, awesome audience out there, passionate
weekly listeners. But we're closing it up kind of like
what we talk about as parents, where you can kind
of just get a bit tired and we're a bit sleepy.
We're a bit tired with the podcast game and getting
(01:51):
busy with other little projects. It's it's kind of been
something we've discussed for a while and we've just decided
let's just push play on it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I am have sort a bit a bit nervous about
talking about shutting it down because I know we have,
like you said, a small.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But loyal audience.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And I do worry about sort of because I've had
there's a podcast that I love which recently called it
quits and they said, hey, we're shutting it down. We're
doing five more episodes, and it's left a big hole
in my day without having that podcast there. So I
don't want to over estimate what we do, but I
don't want to underestimate it too, Like if you listen
(02:28):
to this and you get something out of it. And
I was stressing about how to say what we're doing
and give the reason why in the car today because
we were driving back from the coromanda and then I thought, no,
there's no reason to stress. You just have to be
honest about it. And the reason that we're shutting it
down is because, man, it's time consuming running a podcast
when it's just the two of you. We joke a
(02:49):
lot about how there's no producer on this podcast. There
is no producer on this podcast. We spend time recording
this thing. Then we send each other audio and video.
You edit video, I edit audio, We post stuff, and
it's a labor of love. But we have both decided
to refocus our energy into our families and our other work.
(03:11):
Yeah is that fair?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Like we'd have we'd have big
ideas that we'd say to each other, like at the
end of a pod, like oh we should do this,
or imagine doing this one time, and then we both
just realized we are already too busy with what we're
doing our normal lives too. Yeah, I mean it would
be in an amazing world. Imagine if we did nothing else.
Clint and this podcast was our bread and butter, and
(03:35):
we did go and film episodes out and you I
took you out fishing and we were on the boat
doing an episode. But that's an ideal podcast world where
the biggest sponsor ever came and said, here is true
a truck ton of money. Quit your jobs, guys, because
we're going to sponsor you for the next five years.
We want you to make the best parenting podcast ever.
One hundred percent, we would still be here, guys. We
(03:56):
would be doing it.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, And let's not pretend that money is not a
part of it. If we had, if this was a
generating sponsorship, it would mean that we could let go
of other work. But both of us have young families
and mortgages and any any extra time that we have
at the moment, I don't want to work more at
the moment, I want to work with Yeah. Yeah, And
(04:19):
I think that has been a through line of this podcast,
has been cherishing the time that you have with your
kids and also living in the moment, you know, and
like realizing.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Shit, this thing is fleeting.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Like I saw that horrible thing that your phone does
where it puts together collages and it goes, this is
what you were doing two years ago, and it did
this one for me today, and it goes, here's a
picture of your two daughters, because it can tell who's
in the photos. Here's your two daughters in October twenty
twenty two, and here's them in October twenty twenty four,
and the difference is night and day. They are different people.
(04:52):
So yeah, time is precious. So but in saying that,
you made a really good point when we first talked
about shutting this down, and you said the reason we
first started doing it was because there was nothing out there.
We originally started doing it for dads and there was
nothing for Kiwi dads about this journey of parenting. And
now even though we're going to stop, there's seventy one
(05:15):
episodes there. They won't go away. Those will stay there
and someone will stumble upon them. I don't know, someone
will find something in them, someone will get to listen
to them going forward. So those are still going to
be there.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah. I like to think that's an awesome back catalog.
So if anyone listening one day bumps into someone who's
a new dad or a partner says, oh, he's a
bit freaking out, you can go, oh, go and listen
to this is awesome little thing from New Zealand called
the Parenting Hangover. If he goes listens to all of them.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's dead now.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
But it was good while it lasted.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It was good. You know. It's like I like to
think of us as the UK Office. You know, people
will look back and slow we I'm Ricky Gervaise, your
Stephen Merchant and we're done. We're handing over the baton.
Someone else can step into the dad parenting podcast world.
But I also do like to think that if you
(06:06):
one of those people, they are going to are seriously
freaking out, Like what am I gonna listen to next week? Mate?
A year and a half we've been doing this. You
can go back and listen to Donga Chat our first
episode and homage. I have put on the shirt that
I very first wore in the very first podcast episode
where we had a I was trying to teach my
(06:27):
kids about how babies are made, and we had a book,
like an illustrated book that weirdly had large one guy
in at African America, and of course there's a bunch
of guys in a shower just with the cartoons with
towels around them, and a lady's over to the side.
It just shows you parts. This guy had a massive
and clean you out out the word. Donga called it
(06:49):
a dogger. So that's how the word dogga entered the podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And we filmed that first podcast in front of like
some big wig podcast people, and the feedback we got was, hey, guys,
it's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Too locker room chat.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Maybe we could maybe we could bring the tone of
the podcast up.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And I like the thing that we did for about
ten episodes, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
We totally did. And then then when they all stopped
listening and caring, they were like, Okay, we can leave
Clint and Jordan. It sounds like this parenting hangover thing's
going to work. Then we kind of just dolved back
into this did.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know that I zipped my ballsack into my fly
at the Rugby club?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
We talked about six wedges a wage to block your door.
We even got into talking about the time where my
wife was keen for it, but I was gassy, so
I tried to run down the hallway and sneakily do
a fart and it echoed throughout the entire house. So
we quickly went back. We quickly went back to get
a chat. I've got a few notes down of good
(07:51):
old stuff that we went over. One of the favorite things,
which seems so simple at the time, but I remember
it was one of our first videos away from the
hype of when we launched, and all the videos kind
of go well because everyone wants to know what's going on.
But it was talking about little old New Zealand calf
cop Day, which is the day where you bring your
animals to school, and we posted a photo of me
(08:12):
five years old, lamb. I've got a lamb and I
have a Gucci jumper on wherever it's come from. I'm
wearing a Gucci sweater on calf Cub Day. But that
was cool, just getting all the comments from everyone and
being like, oh, clf cup down remember that? Do you
remember this? And do you remember that? I'm like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Still a mystery, still a mystery to where somebody would
get knockoff Gucci in New Zealand in the early nineties,
Like I hadn't even heard of Gucci until the two thousands.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, who's making Gucci jumpers for.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Five to six year olds in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It's there. If you scroll back enough in the Instagram feed,
you will find it.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
One of my favorite things. I guess we can go
back and forth with these. One of my favorite things
was talking to Hamish Blake and just getting him on
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And I remember when we got him, I was.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Like, oh shit, we have cracked it. And we got
it through Jordan's Instagram celebrity status. They're in the same
league of he's got that kind of account where if
you're Hamish Blake, you're going to see a message, although
he did reply to my message when I thanked him
for coming on it. Anyway, he is he is dad goals,
and like, if you're going to share a podcast from
(09:20):
this series with someone about I don't know how you
can be a good involved present dad. He's the benchmark
and he gave us his time and he gave us
his advice and both of both of you and I
remember because I was at work when we recorded it,
and I remember he hung up and we were like, fuck,
he's the man. Fuck he's the man.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
And I hadn't written down I was absolutely going to
bring that up right now, but Brainwave. A smart way
for people that are full of tears right now and
a sobbing uncontrollable is to gently hand you over if
you have not listened. He has a podcast. This is
the best one that you could probably go swoop in.
To fill the void that we may leave is Hamish
(10:03):
Blake's How Other Dad's Dad? His podcast where he sits
down and he chats to famous Australian fathers, but you
don't need to know them necessarily, and that would be.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Has advice that it's a good dad with a good take.
You can go into it and go off. Hamish likes them,
they must be good, and they're all good and it's
a great podcast and it definitely has a producer or
two to make it happen. And he did the smart
thing where he didn't decide to do one every single week.
He just has like eight at a time and then
you go cycling around Europe for three months.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, there could have been our downfall. We were like,
should we do series? And then Clint's I'm gonna blame
it on Clint Clint, so let's just go yeah week man, Yeah,
let's just let's just do it every week. I'm like, yeah,
let's fucking do it. And I'm like, oh, we've done
it like forty eight weeks now, could.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I can we have school holidays off. Then we gave
your podcast Get into the Snow because we can't listen episode.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I took it around in my backpack pieces it's like
Clint's real task master. Oh man, yep, I've got And
I like to believe that I wanted to get to
a point on the podcast where you came back all
hyped and you had done this, but finding out that
you were quite afraid and coy ongoing camping with the family,
(11:23):
and you haven't made it. You haven't done it, and
I just hope that, yeah, maybe it's in the pipeline
this summer.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
But we've only got to autumn, so this could have
been the summer. We've only done one summer.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Of these podcasts.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
But I actually head down here and it's a bit soppy,
but the confidence that it's kind of like, it's kind
of like it because you're we're the same age, actually
a little bit younger than me, but you are infinitely
more experienced than me as a dad, And I put
down here it's ridden the confidence that Jordan gave me
(11:56):
to travel and to get out there and do stuff.
As one of the things that I've taken away from
this podcast. And I was quite proud to tell you that.
And I know it's not camping and you'll laugh at
what it is. But we've signed up to go on
that Disney cruise thing, which is that's great. Yeah, it's
four nights on a boat and it's like out of
our comfort zone. And Lucy's like, God.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I don't know if we should do it.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It sounds bloody hard.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
But everyone's spewing. Everyone's spewing, you know, the kid's spewing.
All I can say for that is Sea Legs. Find
out all the get all the things. Sea Legs give
them all the travel sick and stuff. Give it to
the kids, Give it to you even if you don't
think you get sick. You take them before you go ay,
before you go on the boat. You take it like
the day before, and then the next morning read it.
(12:40):
Don't overdose on it, but you know, and then the
night and we give them to our kids. But I
don't want to be sick.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So I filled out the paperwork the other day and
one of the things and it takes me straight back
to where we were. It said, So we have dinner
at five o'clock every night with the girls. Yeah, dinner
on the boat. Is not served. The earliest dinner serving
on the boat is five forty five, and I was like, fuck,
that's by the time we eat, it's going to be
like an hour after dinner. And then I went straight
back to that thing where you said where you're like,
(13:05):
you're on hol day time. Bro, time's not real. Don't
you know if they stay up a bit later, they'll
sleep a bit later.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Who cares? Yeah, yeah, don't worry about it. You just
don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, you just put up with it, and you catch
up on that sleepiness when you get back. The sleeps
might be bad on the boat, but you're gonna come
back and be like whoa, that was heck the but
holy shit, like that was cool. They loved that we
did that bit. Yeah, there's gonna be bits one hundred percent.
We have a camper van trip coming up in January.
We're the last. The last time we did it.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
You would have a freaking camper van trip coming up.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
The last time we did it, they were tiny children,
which you can be like freak out mode, but now
they're giants, Like if I move, I'm gonna bump into
a giant nine year old Albert. And then giant eleven
year old meal is gonna be bumping into It's gonna
be tough, and we've already accepted that it doesn't happen
till January. Me and Jody know it's gonna be a
trip kind of from hell, but also a really good trip.
(13:58):
There's gonna be It's like a fifty to fifty. You're
gonna have fifty percent of awesome things and fifty percent.
We'll always look at each other and roll your eyes
and be like, oh gosh, remember that. But then you'll say,
holy shit, do you remember when we skim those stones
across that lake that no want have been to?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
How good is it that my version of parenting adversity
is going on a luxury cruise for four nights.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Hey, can you go back and read the note that
you wrote down about me, the nice positive thing you said?
What was it?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I said?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I have looked at how you dared for guidance along
the way, and talking with you has given me the
confidence to get out there and actually do stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Oh holy one, call away, I'll be there to say.
This has been the track. This has been the soundtrack
to the podcast The Day. Just listen to for a
moment Superman's gardener. Who would have.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Thought, how too Dad? Actually knows how too Dad? Like
I thought it was I thought it was a joke,
but one.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Hundred percent still is like and I always come back
to me and Clint always do People put, Yes, we're
somewhere on the celebrity ladder, both of us in New Zealand.
But that doesn't mean that, oh well, we are amazing dads.
Let's catch up and tell everyone how to be amazing dads.
That is not it at all. I run a comical
page called how to Dad, and I am daily still
(15:20):
figuring this out. I daily have struggles. I daily have
chats with my wife about shit, how do we figure
this out? And just now I've just come home from
Touch with the playing the rugby game touch with my
eleven year old. She's had his shoes, so we've had
a moment trying to figure that out together. And I've
got Gnarla upstairs saying yeah sorry, yeah, international.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
In touch with my eleven year old.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah sorry. It's a version of rugby where you don't tackle.
It's called touch rugby. I've got a six year old upstairs.
You said, where are you going? Dad? I said, I'm
doing the final thing. But she's like, but you gotta
put my eye drops in because she woke up with
eyes stuck together in conjunctivitis. So there's always stuff going
on unless you're which no one ever talks about. And
I'm just going to raise it now because the last episode,
(16:07):
some people look at these actors and go, man, they're
amazing people, amazing parents. These Hollywood ones I called bullshit.
They go away on these They go away on these
movies for six months at least at minimum, away from
the family. They might fly back on her one Sunday,
but they are on set for every single day. And
people are like, oh, he's such an amazing dad. Part
(16:28):
of me thinks, Bro, you've made fifty million dollars in
your career. Now why are you doing back to back
to back. I'm not going to name the people that
I see this thing, people who are just going from
project to project to project to project to project. I'm like, bro,
can everyone stop looking at this guy through roast into glasses.
He had an amazing dad. He does not see his children.
His children nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You won the lottery, You have enough money to survive.
You for the rest of your life, and you could
spend every day hanging out with your children, but you
choose not to. I had the same thought when I
was listening to a podcast recently with Katie Perry. And
this is not to take anything away from working mums,
because I understand how extremely hard that is, but they
were praising her for how she's able to do everything,
and I was like, she has a like a living.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Nanny like her, And who's the guy.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
She's with, Orlando Giant, Penis Bloom.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Legalist, legalist, third leg. You know, it's not the same.
It's that meme where people go, you have the same
number of hours in your day as Beyonce. No you don't, No,
you don't. Beyonce has something groceries for you.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Beyonce doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Beyonce's a chef, Beyond has a chef.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Beyonce has infinitely more hours in her day than you do.
It's not the same. So comparisons are real. Joy Thief
and I think we talked about that early in the podcast,
as looking at your life and comparing it to what
you see on Instagram, It's just fucking bullshit and it's
not real.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I mean, fucking Clint Clint here, you know, throwing stones
at glasshouses with his new cleaner that he's just hired,
like Clint.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Of Cruise Ship cleaner Clinton over here, I put down.
One of my favorite things that we did.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
With this podcast was to talk about.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Visctames because that is such a taboo topic. And when
we hit first out of this podcast, I just recently
had one, and we had the planned that somewhere along
the podcast, you would have yours done too. Your kids
are older, your wife is yes, ready, we had your
wife on the podcast. Jodi came on and said I'm ready.
(18:31):
I'm ready, and we were going to do it.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
A year and a half ago. We we at the
start of this me and my wife are at a
point where we could have had another one. And then
she went off the boil, and so we had her
on and because I was keen, and then I I
I know law lit, I know Lie, I know Lie.
I booked it in. I went on the website. This
is four months ago. I booked it in. How mean
something tell me that I think I did? And then
(18:56):
something I think I did, And then something seriously came
up like I couldn't do it anymore because this thing
was up and I was like, shit, Jodie, won't you
tell me my victim's booked? So I've gone in and
free to cancel. I haven't paid anything, and I've canceled it.
And I'm like, I'll rebook that. But then who goes
and signs up to a big boxing thing that's four
months of like training and you can't so vasicko meies,
(19:18):
you can't do anything for a bit after doing it
where there's boxing things, I have to do shit every day,
Like that's the commitment. I may so and that isn't
putting me. I will get it done. But I'm like, no,
it's gonna have to wait now, and I'm not going
to get into see it won't happen now till after
summer because I don't want to have what is it?
Apparently you can't get your heart rate up for four
or five days and I'm it's summer. I want to
be at the beach. Bro, I'm not gonna be sitting
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on a couch with peas between my nuts.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So I can reveal this to you now, I got approach.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'm sorry, i gotta pause because I've just sounded like
the biggest chauvinistick, dude, this woman like my wife who
give birth. All my kids are born in the heights
of New Zealand summer. And here I am like, in
one line.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I was proud of us destigmatizing them and proving them there.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Big deal. Now I'm showing you something you can do
for your partner, and you're like, mane, I've got to
go for a surf. I don't want to fucking of
an operation.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It's certainly I did, but I want to I want
to align it with which again it sounds so stupid.
My wife had all my kids in summer in New
Zealand January Febury. But I'm thinking, look, if I can
book this in I'm going to do it when. Yeah,
but I'm going to book it, and I'm going to
choose to do it not in summer, so I don't
have to have a week of being a nut going.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So I can reveal this to you now. Behind the scenes,
you didn't know about this, But we got approached by
a vasecta ME clinic for VASEECTI ME Awareness Week and
they asked, Hey, would you guys like to do anything?
And I went back to them and I said, how
about this. We give away a vasict to me on
the podcast, and I offer Jordan a free visctomy on
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the podcast as well. No pressure, but if we want
to do it, then we'll go and get it done
and we'll record the visct to me. And they said, yeah,
love it, love it great, let's do it. And then
by nature of what we talked about before, how neither
of us have any time just nothing happened with it.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, yeah, like a cool idea. It's like, imagine.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Great video and it would have been a great article.
But yeah, I was thus close top to offering you
a free versick to me. Not that price is the
main issue, but you.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Know, yeah, yeah, now I'll get it done. Although we
just went to Portway cuttle for Labor week in which
is a long weekend here in New Zealand, and my
dad lives over there and Dad a just looks at me.
It'll be a boy if you have another one, A,
you know, you'll have a boy. A. He's the one
who's keen. He's like, who's going to carry on the
Watson name? And I reminded him that Dad, by the
time my daughters all of age to get married, it'll
(21:45):
be very accepted and normal for them to hold onto
the Watson name. Yeah, so you don't you worry about that, mate,
And it's not that, but he's old school. It's not
the same though, It's not the same as having It's
not that boy yea.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Tools to.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I had noted down slightly getting the hots for the
voices that sometimes come through from our listeners. Look, I
have a thing for like we had quite a few
sixy like Irish and Scottish accents. And you know, straight
away when you hear an act any voice like someone
(22:19):
already said they were doing about you, Clint a few
weeks ago that hadn't never seen you, you know, you
start to picture and I.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Was Australia, she was Australian.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And I've listened to that message a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, yeah, h. I just wanted to a shout out
to all our internationals, you know who, because O and
all the Kiwi's sorry, all the Kiwi, all the Kiwi ones.
We're real sixy two Clint and Jordan, I totally love
your show. It's so good.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, yeah, we don't discriminate.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
The One of the last loose threads on this podcast,
as the conversation around getting the dog.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Oh yeah, which if we had a producer, I wanted
to do the cool thing of waiting leaving that till last.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, and we had a producer, we could flat back
now to last week. You gave me the stern word
about the dog and about how you won't regret the
dog and you should just do it, and things are hard,
but it's great. But once the dog settles in, it'll
just be sleep around the house. And why would you
deprive If you have the opportunity to do it, and
you know it's a good dog, why wouldn't you just
do it? I also, as our last piece of feedback,
(23:30):
I checked out and boxed one last time, and I
thought i'd played this message from Catherine that's coming.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Wow, clanks, dude, please get the dog for your kids.
They'll love it.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You won't regret it as.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Far as how much it will eat. We have a
great Dane and she's very, very fit. She gets two
cups of food twice a day. The dog food that
we buy is about forty eight dollars for a thirty
five pound bag US dollars. Sorry, so you have to
do a little conversions. But and your dog's not going
(24:02):
to eat quite as much as she does, so you
can afford to get the dog food. Goes and she
gets very high quality dog food, not the stuff from
the vet, but the highest quality stuff from the pet
food store, not just a grocery store. But hope this helps.
Please get the dog. You won't regret it. Bye. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Oh what's a pound?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I don't know what a pound or a US dollar is,
but I appreciate the sentiment and the message I can reveal.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We're gonna get the dog.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You're did the dog.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, we're gonna get the dog.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
This is the producer who shared. A producer would have.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Been good many the three year old Golden Retriever will
move in with.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Us this time next week.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Mate, see this. This had to be the last bit
of the podcast, but I had a few more things
noted down, and now it's like we're going backwards.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh shit, sorry, I gotta hit it myself.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
He didn't even pick up on my note. If you
will rewind thirty seconds from I'm like, oh, wait, this
is the bit. If we had a produce, we'd hold
this to the end. And I was waiting for your
radio brain to be like, yeah, let's hold that to
the end and he just carried on. So another great
example of why we're shutting the fucking shit shows down.
You know, we called out Pamel, which is the medicine
(25:21):
your your paracetamol for kids in a liquid form. You'll
probably have a different brand wherever you're from, but here
in New Zealand, the famous one is Pamel. And we
called out the fact that sometimes you buy a bottle
that comes in a bottle and you get given the
syringe and it doesn't have like a plug in the top.
So when you get to the end of the bottle,
you have it on this weird thirty five degree angle
(25:43):
and you're trying to get the syringine to get the
last bit out or now, and then you'll open the
box and there is what we call the Pamel butt
plug in the top, and that is a plug that
plugs the top of the bottle but as a whole
and you puncture your plastic syringe into it and so
you can get every last drop. And so I was
hoping that they would have heard this and been like, shit,
(26:04):
why are we playing April fools on people? Sometimes not
putting the butt plugs in the top of the bottles
I don't think anyone ever answered that query for us.
Why sometimes they had butt plugs and sometimes they didn't
have butt plugs.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Nah, but we did have a moment where people were
sending us after market butt plugs that you could get
for the bottles and you could retro fit your bottle
with a with an aftermarket butt plug.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, but some of those butt plugs were quite stinky
and quite leaky.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Would be my concern too, like if it's not a
custom butt plug made for the butt of your pamel bottle,
I think there was a huge risk of leakage, freakage.
So yeah, I wasn't into that.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, film you this was a This was a more
sentimental one for me at one stage, which I don't
get that sentimental that often. And it's a reminder because
we do it. We haven't done it for a little
bit for about a year, and we need to do another.
But film, sit your camera down and film a snapshot
(27:00):
of your life talking to your iPhone for your kids
later in life, because how cool would it be to
have seen your dad, your mum and dad right now
at thirty thirty five, sitting down and be like, Hi, Clint,
we live here right now Dad's doing this, I'm doing this.
You are like this, your brother's done this. But dah
da da takes two minutes. The kids can be in it,
(27:21):
they can walk through, and you do them like once
a year, and you'll put them in a little folder
try and get them. We never really figured out how
to get shit off your phone, Like all our phones
are filled up. But I have a hard drive. I've
had a backup and those videos are on it, and
it's something like I'll probably snip some out of it
for a twenty first video for the kids or something,
but they'll be there and I think it's cool, and
(27:42):
even me and Jody look back on the kids have
never seen them. But now and then when I have
to plug in the old drive to drag something off
for an edit, I'll find them. And I always call
Jody down and we sit and watch them and she
gets all emotional because she's really pregnant and a brand
new mum in them and they're just really cool.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I don't know if i'd be able to handle the day.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
The older I get, the more those like I said before,
with those photos that come up on the phone, they've
just really start to hit me of how the rate
of change. I know, I really love that idea, and
I'm gutted that I haven't started. But it's never too late, right,
You might as well, but.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You don't do it. It's not said you're doing. You're
like filming. It's not sad like you just said it.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I'm good that I haven't started, you know, like, oh, yeah, okay,
see us as.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
A new dad. No new mum, No, no, no, you
do it now?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
There are only three and bloody sex with three and five.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Someone gave me the advice to do that on just
before your first wedding anniversary and to go, hey, this
is our life. And I still didn't do it then,
but that would have been a good idea too.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
It's been rough. It was a real bad decision, but like,
we don't want to let everyone down and everyone down
and get a divorced. So we're just going to try
and put it through. We're just gonna try and keep
on pushing through. You know, she got pregnant, so I
had to kind of put a ring with a credit.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
We once set in the studio and talk to Morgan
being the sexologist, and we both suiteted really uncomfortably because
we couldn't, so.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
She was like that, Yeah, love, I love Morgan. I
think she's fantastic and I love what she does with
her sex positive content that she creates. But holy shit,
I don't know if she was the sex ologist for us.
She was too she's just too freaky.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, it's way, way too freaky. The sweat was one
from just being nervous then realizing, oh, this isn't too bad,
and then you realize that the snowy conditioning working so
the sweat is actually real, and then she'll throw a
curveball at you and then you'll feel yourself go read
and the sweat come back again. So that was fun.
You know, we hope that episode, that episode's there for
you guys.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
The main takeaway I got from that episode was if
your partner doesn't want to do it, you should just
do it next to them in bed.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Holy shit, that is exactly what she said.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, that was the advice.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
She said. A normal thing to do is to masturbate
next to your part.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
To your partner.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, and they're not always going to be into it
into it with you, but that shouldn't stop you because
you have needs, So just do it next to.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Them all I imagine, is my wife tired? Right, this
is the funniest bit. And you can you can envision
this with your own wife, right, you know the nights
where they're tired, they've just put on that baggy T
shirt to go to bed. Their heir is up in
like a mumbar, and they don't want a bar of you. Like,
they're on their phone scrolling social media, like just go away.
You come in late to hop into bed, and you're like,
(30:33):
and you give them the nudger, We say, hey, so
what about it? And they're just like all they got
to do is make a noise or a look, and
you know, and then for them to carry on just scrolling.
They're not rolled over there on their back, just scrolling
on their phone. You're on your back next to them.
You whop out your penis and start I'm not evenna
say it, but imagine and what that they meant to
just lie there and be cool with that? Well and
(30:58):
then ah, yeah, so we were in a we were
in a room with no econditioning talking about that, and yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
May be the right, but no, but so was not
what I was hoping to get out of it.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
But my argument being typical dudes who always have one
or two things on the brain that if you flip
the rolls, oh my god, that we ever not that
we ever say no, but that is the sexiest thing
in the world to us. That would be like, holy shit,
that is so cool. Why are we so different?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
It would never have been two reasons, One because they
would never do that, and two because we would never
be like, no, you just you.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Just take care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, yeah, I'd say that.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
We would last about fifteen seconds when we'd be.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Like, oh can I go Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. We'd
lie there and be trying to be angry on our
phones and just be holy shit, no, I got to
get some of this. I think I've only said once
to Jodie no once, and that's because I literally like
was about to ship myself, like I'd eaten something bad,
and I knew that we had, we had spoken that
(32:08):
it was going to happen, so I was hoping this
belly ache went away. I was almost trying to hide it,
and I just had to be honest and be like, oh,
we can't. I've got I've got the crooked scup, babe.
But other than that, I am ready to go. Okay,
I'm just but I talked to the sixth ologist and
she said, you shouldn't stop you from taking care of yourself.
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So now no, it's very normal
in our household. Now, Jodie's all right, you just do
(32:30):
you okay, thanks babe. And then I get the sixth wage,
which someone taught us about, which is just a triangle
bit of wood and that just slides under your door.
It's like, sorry, a doorstop. But because I see it,
it's weird putting a door lock on your door, because
now that my kids are older, Look, you can get
away with a four year old walking on you. They
don't really know what's happening. But I have in a
eleven year old and their bedroom is the closest to ours,
(32:51):
and if she walks in, now that image just see
it into her brain. So the six wige is a
great idea. Like putting a lock, I get it. Locks
are a bit weird on interior bedroom doors, but the
six wedge great idea. It's just a doorstop, guys, and
I just really they can't. I've tested it. They can't.
And you put a few bags there so you hear things.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
And or you do that college that university thing.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
We you go to her and you go, hey, if
there's a sock on the door handle, don't come in
because you know dad's busy.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You No, I'm definitely not telling my kid that did
you fix your snop? Did you fix your snoring? And
did you get ripped? Those are my last two things
I wanted to know.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
We were in fung A Matar for the long weekend
and I slept in one bedroom and Lucy slept in
the other bedroom. Is a wall between us because our
three year old doesn't sleep particularly well away, so she
knew she was going to come into that room. So
we had separate rooms, separated by a wall. And if
you imagine, the two beds are up against the same wall.
So I head starr together, separated by a wall. And
(33:48):
Lucy said to me she could hear me snoring through
that wall last night. So no, okay, didn't fix that.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
No one gave you any tips. None of the things
that came through have helped.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I bought that mouthguard.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
It's shit.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's too big to close your mouth. You can't close
your mouth with that mouthguarden. And the whole thing should
be about getting your mouth closed so you breathe through
your nose. So don't buy that mouthguard and the other
tips whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, and what you bought it? You bought a home gym?
Did you get ripped? No? Hell? On average? On average,
how many times do you use it a week?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I think I've used it no times since February, but
then in the last few weeks.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Have used it three times. Yeah, that cracks me up.
Let's go. That's typical every dude.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
You bought a home gym and an ice bath and
took up boxing.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Did you get rapped?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I'm on the pro I'm on I'm on the journey
of getting rapped.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I've lost journey, not a destination.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I've lost almost ten almost ten killer in the last
four months. Wow yeah, wow, wow, Like actually this is
the first time. Oh here, here you go. Here's a tip.
Here's a tip to any guy, any dad who finds
himself in a bit of a rut. I was in
a real bad rut right waking up, just mainly about
(35:19):
health and like, fuck, you're just putting on weight. How's
the scale still going up? Jordan' sort your shit out
and then committing to something and falling off it. The
next day anyway, So signed up to this. It's like
a gym challenge, which this boxing thing is basically a
gym challenge. You can't say no, You've got a whole
group of you're doing it. You've got trainers on your ass.
So that's what I needed, right because my self motivation
(35:39):
was terrible, but this is like, you have to do it.
You can't let these people down. And Jody the other
day just quietly it is just like, it's not the
physical change, it's just you. It's I'm like, I've got
the hots for you. She said this, So there is
a tip for any guys out there.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Shit, And that was that was one of those things
where what does she mean it's not the physical thing.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Well, yes, the physical the physical thing. She's also weirdly
liking that, like these weird moments and I'm still getting
used to all of it. But like I'll come out
in a towel or I'll put on you motivate.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
But is that what it is?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Where I was there, I
was definitely in like a rut of just waking up
and being like, h and now I've just every day
I'm real focused on right, I've got this and we're
going to do that with the kids after school, and
I'm eating good food. I wasn't figure is back. I
really And I don't want to sound like Instagram. Yeah
I got my mojo back. I really did, And I
(36:35):
don't want to sound like one of these Instagram people
that talk down and be like I figured. I haven't
figured it out, but it's been a human change.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Put it down to joining up to a community. Find
it fitness people with a goal, a goal driven fitness challenge.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, I think find it like decide to run a
marathon with a group of people, or if a gym
says we've got one of these, a huge one at
the gym I'm at, and they are very community based.
Is this thing called a forty two day challenge which
is forty two days and it's and it's so true
for anyone out there because I did this for a
decade where I thought I could eat what I want
during the day and then just run real hard and
(37:12):
I'd be a psycho and go on to these runs.
But that doesn't work. Ninety percent of it is what
goes in your mouth. So like I eat, I don't
eat shit. I haven't eaten shit for two months now,
like I've had I'm eating it's a lot of eggs.
I'm eating eggs on a piece of toast. Calorie counting.
I'm calorie counting.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
In a sense, you are a changed man.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I eat tuna. I eat tuna on rats for lunch,
and I eat chicken, broccoli and rice for dinner, and
then I have a protein shake and a banana as
snacks and I do that day in every day because
I don't have to figure out the anymore. Yeah, yeah,
I'll sit down with them, but I'm eating a different thing. Yep,
I'm eating different So you can't do that forever. No,
you can't do that forever. I'm doing that while I'm
on this boxing thing. But then outside of that, because
(37:55):
I've learned so much about food, you kind of just
know know what you're eating, Like calories make so much sense,
and people will be really against that. But for me,
I can have two and a half thousand calories a day.
I've done it for so long now that I know
what foods are kind of worse, so I can be like, yeah,
I can have that. Oh, I'll have a smaller lunch
because we just went out and had French toast, and
I know that that's blown my calories out, So I'll
(38:16):
have a smaller lunch and then for dinner, I'll make
sure I'm a bit healthier.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
This is a whole episode. Yeah, it's come too late.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I know it is a whole episode. It's like if
you saw me two years ago, I'd be laughing at me.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, because I also didn't go because the thing that
I get worried about is like talking about diet around
young girls and how do you balance that without getting
them to count their calories and that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, but they don't know that side of it. And
our coolest thing is that like Jody, Oh, JODI's the
one who got me into this. She did the forty
two day challenge like a year ago at this gym,
and I saw her change and things in her change,
and then she realized understood stood protein and food more. So.
Our kids have a lot of eggs in the morning,
and then they don't ask for morning tea. Our kids
(38:57):
no longer have morning tea on the weekends because we
give them heartier foods instead of like sugary cereal or
just bread. Anyway, it is a whole episode. But we're
on the last episode. I don't I don't just want
to become an hour. But guys, it's taken seriously. The
gag was since Meela was born eleven years ago. I've
put on a kilo every year and I actually have
(39:20):
and Jody it was our gag that I would every week.
I would say I'm going to be healthy this week,
and by Wednesday I was off it. I never committed
to anything, and this is the first time in a
decade that I've actually, I don't know how, I've just
done it and it's working and I feel really good
about it. So if you are in that rut and
the positives you get from your partner, your partner sees
(39:41):
more positives than you, is a big tick to do it.
So if anyone out there is on the cusp of
being like, shit, yeah, I'm going to commit to this,
do it. I said, do it. Do it?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Do it? Mate.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
All you had to say is your partner'll be more
interested in you. I would walk over broken glass for
a little bit of damn, you're looking good.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, I've had we talked about this recently and now
I've had a few of them here and then I'm like, well,
I blush, oh, blush, and I don't even know what
to do. And I'm like, well, okay, I've still got
a bit.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
To lose, Like you, wait, I think we've got to
wrap it up, man, Yeah we do.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
It's been way too long, forty minutes, Jesus, but it's
the last one.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
We're always going to overindulge.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
This has been a very rewarding journey for me personally,
just talking with another dad about the joy of parenting,
because everyone sort of loves to complain about parenting, and
we've done lots of complaining on this podcast as well too,
but talking to another dad my age, where you can
just and also not worrying that you're gonna bore people
(40:38):
with talking about your kids. That's a big part of
being a parent too, as you go oh, fuck, no
one wants to hear that. No one wants to hear
that shit, but actually going, oh, this is a place
where we can do this. So yeah, it's been it's
been bloody good man. I've really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah, Typical New Zealand dads and probably dads around the world,
will get off scot free almost by oh you got
a baby on the way mate. Yeah, oh sure, good
luck with that. Yeah yeah, and that was it it
yeah yeah yeah, and you dealt with it yourself. So yeah, No,
this is the bit where we can sell source and
say hats off to us because we were just we
(41:15):
are just a couple of dads who chat around the
water call every week and all in all positive chat
about being dads. So hope it's filled, it's I hope
it's helped some scared dads. I hope it's helped change
perceptions around being a dad. And like Clint says, it
sits there. It's there, So if you know of anyone,
(41:38):
let them know it's there again. Or mums and mums
and mums.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yes, moms have been a huge We didn't expect mums
to be such a big.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Part of this audience.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I think they're the bulk of the audience, which is
always the way with these things. At first we thought
we were going to be dad talking to dads, but
it wasn't. Its parents talking to parents.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
And also mums just wanted to check in and be like,
what are these bloody idiots going to stuff up on? No,
that's not how we do it. And then and they Hello, Hello.
Are trying to but their sexy little lerish voice? Anyway,
We'll leave it there. I've had a beer. Thank you
for listening. That's it. We're not going to be There
might be something on the Instagram, but that's it. This
(42:19):
isn't a prank. We're done over and out. The parenting
came over. Thank you very much for listening. I've been
Jordan Watson.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
And I've been Clint Roberts.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
This is your news today. Those were a good night
wait
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Ah,
This is an iHeartRadio New Zealand podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
All right, well, look should we start with a beer?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Should we start with a yeah? Lessen Hi, Hello, Hello,
Lidien Jo and welcome to Between Two.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Beers, a very.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Successful New Zealand podcast that we're going to plug quickly.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Great podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You've been on it. You were a great guest.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Right, do we get this out of the way early.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, just get it done. Me and Clint have adopted
a child. We have both left. Clint has left Lucy,
I have left Jody. We've forgotten the kids that we
have already in the last five days since you've heard
about us, and we are now together, and we have
adopted a child that is with us right now.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We're having that baby that we talked about about twelve
podcasts ago.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah, say hello Apple.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Nah, we're shutting the podcast down.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
This is the last one. This is the last one. Guys. Look,
we could have built it up. We could have told
you last week and tease it. But look, we didn't
want to have a whole self source episode where look,
the Instagram page would have just crashed with all the
voice memos and all the sexy Irish voices that come
through like, I love you so much. It's been such
(01:30):
a great time. Thank you so much. We know we
know it guys, great little, awesome audience out there, passionate
weekly listeners. But we're closing it up kind of like
what we talk about as parents, where you can kind
of just get a bit tired and we're a bit sleepy.
We're a bit tired with the podcast game and getting
(01:51):
busy with other little projects. It's it's kind of been
something we've discussed for a while and we've just decided
let's just push play on it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I am have sort a bit a bit nervous about
talking about shutting it down because I know we have,
like you said, a small.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But loyal audience.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And I do worry about sort of because I've had
there's a podcast that I love which recently called it
quits and they said, hey, we're shutting it down. We're
doing five more episodes, and it's left a big hole
in my day without having that podcast there. So I
don't want to over estimate what we do, but I
don't want to underestimate it too, Like if you listen
(02:28):
to this and you get something out of it. And
I was stressing about how to say what we're doing
and give the reason why in the car today because
we were driving back from the coromanda and then I thought, no,
there's no reason to stress. You just have to be
honest about it. And the reason that we're shutting it
down is because, man, it's time consuming running a podcast
when it's just the two of you. We joke a
(02:49):
lot about how there's no producer on this podcast. There
is no producer on this podcast. We spend time recording
this thing. Then we send each other audio and video.
You edit video, I edit audio, We post stuff, and
it's a labor of love. But we have both decided
to refocus our energy into our families and our other work.
(03:11):
Yeah is that fair?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Like we'd have we'd have big
ideas that we'd say to each other, like at the
end of a pod, like oh we should do this,
or imagine doing this one time, and then we both
just realized we are already too busy with what we're
doing our normal lives too. Yeah, I mean it would
be in an amazing world. Imagine if we did nothing else.
Clint and this podcast was our bread and butter, and
(03:35):
we did go and film episodes out and you I
took you out fishing and we were on the boat
doing an episode. But that's an ideal podcast world where
the biggest sponsor ever came and said, here is true
a truck ton of money. Quit your jobs, guys, because
we're going to sponsor you for the next five years.
We want you to make the best parenting podcast ever.
One hundred percent, we would still be here, guys. We
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would be doing it.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, And let's not pretend that money is not a
part of it. If we had, if this was a
generating sponsorship, it would mean that we could let go
of other work. But both of us have young families
and mortgages and any any extra time that we have
at the moment, I don't want to work more at
the moment, I want to work with Yeah. Yeah, And
(04:19):
I think that has been a through line of this podcast,
has been cherishing the time that you have with your
kids and also living in the moment, you know, and
like realizing.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Shit, this thing is fleeting.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Like I saw that horrible thing that your phone does
where it puts together collages and it goes, this is
what you were doing two years ago, and it did
this one for me today, and it goes, here's a
picture of your two daughters, because it can tell who's
in the photos. Here's your two daughters in October twenty
twenty two, and here's them in October twenty twenty four,
and the difference is night and day. They are different people.
(04:52):
So yeah, time is precious. So but in saying that,
you made a really good point when we first talked
about shutting this down, and you said the reason we
first started doing it was because there was nothing out there.
We originally started doing it for dads and there was
nothing for Kiwi dads about this journey of parenting. And
now even though we're going to stop, there's seventy one
(05:15):
episodes there. They won't go away. Those will stay there
and someone will stumble upon them. I don't know, someone
will find something in them, someone will get to listen
to them going forward. So those are still going to
be there.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah. I like to think that's an awesome back catalog.
So if anyone listening one day bumps into someone who's
a new dad or a partner says, oh, he's a
bit freaking out, you can go, oh, go and listen
to this is awesome little thing from New Zealand called
the Parenting Hangover. If he goes listens to all of them.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's dead now.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
But it was good while it lasted.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It was good. You know. It's like I like to
think of us as the UK Office. You know, people
will look back and slow we I'm Ricky Gervaise, your
Stephen Merchant and we're done. We're handing over the baton.
Someone else can step into the dad parenting podcast world.
But I also do like to think that if you
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one of those people, they are going to are seriously
freaking out, Like what am I gonna listen to next week? Mate?
A year and a half we've been doing this. You
can go back and listen to Donga Chat our first
episode and homage. I have put on the shirt that
I very first wore in the very first podcast episode
where we had a I was trying to teach my
(06:27):
kids about how babies are made, and we had a book,
like an illustrated book that weirdly had large one guy
in at African America, and of course there's a bunch
of guys in a shower just with the cartoons with
towels around them, and a lady's over to the side.
It just shows you parts. This guy had a massive
and clean you out out the word. Donga called it
(06:49):
a dogger. So that's how the word dogga entered the podcast.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And we filmed that first podcast in front of like
some big wig podcast people, and the feedback we got was, hey, guys,
it's a little bit.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Too locker room chat.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Maybe we could maybe we could bring the tone of
the podcast up.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And I like the thing that we did for about
ten episodes, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
We totally did. And then then when they all stopped
listening and caring, they were like, Okay, we can leave
Clint and Jordan. It sounds like this parenting hangover thing's
going to work. Then we kind of just dolved back
into this did.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
You know that I zipped my ballsack into my fly
at the Rugby club?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
We talked about six wedges a wage to block your door.
We even got into talking about the time where my
wife was keen for it, but I was gassy, so
I tried to run down the hallway and sneakily do
a fart and it echoed throughout the entire house. So
we quickly went back. We quickly went back to get
a chat. I've got a few notes down of good
(07:51):
old stuff that we went over. One of the favorite things,
which seems so simple at the time, but I remember
it was one of our first videos away from the
hype of when we launched, and all the videos kind
of go well because everyone wants to know what's going on.
But it was talking about little old New Zealand calf
cop Day, which is the day where you bring your
animals to school, and we posted a photo of me
(08:12):
five years old, lamb. I've got a lamb and I
have a Gucci jumper on wherever it's come from. I'm
wearing a Gucci sweater on calf Cub Day. But that
was cool, just getting all the comments from everyone and
being like, oh, clf cup down remember that? Do you
remember this? And do you remember that? I'm like, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Still a mystery, still a mystery to where somebody would
get knockoff Gucci in New Zealand in the early nineties,
Like I hadn't even heard of Gucci until the two thousands.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, who's making Gucci jumpers for.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Five to six year olds in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
It's there. If you scroll back enough in the Instagram feed,
you will find it.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
One of my favorite things. I guess we can go
back and forth with these. One of my favorite things
was talking to Hamish Blake and just getting him on
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And I remember when we got him, I was.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Like, oh shit, we have cracked it. And we got
it through Jordan's Instagram celebrity status. They're in the same
league of he's got that kind of account where if
you're Hamish Blake, you're going to see a message, although
he did reply to my message when I thanked him
for coming on it. Anyway, he is he is dad goals,
and like, if you're going to share a podcast from
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this series with someone about I don't know how you
can be a good involved present dad. He's the benchmark
and he gave us his time and he gave us
his advice and both of both of you and I
remember because I was at work when we recorded it,
and I remember he hung up and we were like, fuck,
he's the man. Fuck he's the man.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
And I hadn't written down I was absolutely going to
bring that up right now, but Brainwave. A smart way
for people that are full of tears right now and
a sobbing uncontrollable is to gently hand you over if
you have not listened. He has a podcast. This is
the best one that you could probably go swoop in.
To fill the void that we may leave is Hamish
(10:03):
Blake's How Other Dad's Dad? His podcast where he sits
down and he chats to famous Australian fathers, but you
don't need to know them necessarily, and that would be.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Has advice that it's a good dad with a good take.
You can go into it and go off. Hamish likes them,
they must be good, and they're all good and it's
a great podcast and it definitely has a producer or
two to make it happen. And he did the smart
thing where he didn't decide to do one every single week.
He just has like eight at a time and then
you go cycling around Europe for three months.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, there could have been our downfall. We were like,
should we do series? And then Clint's I'm gonna blame
it on Clint Clint, so let's just go yeah week man, Yeah,
let's just let's just do it every week. I'm like, yeah,
let's fucking do it. And I'm like, oh, we've done
it like forty eight weeks now, could.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I can we have school holidays off. Then we gave
your podcast Get into the Snow because we can't listen episode.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I took it around in my backpack pieces it's like
Clint's real task master. Oh man, yep, I've got And
I like to believe that I wanted to get to
a point on the podcast where you came back all
hyped and you had done this, but finding out that
you were quite afraid and coy ongoing camping with the family,
(11:23):
and you haven't made it. You haven't done it, and
I just hope that, yeah, maybe it's in the pipeline
this summer.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
But we've only got to autumn, so this could have
been the summer. We've only done one summer.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Of these podcasts.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
But I actually head down here and it's a bit soppy,
but the confidence that it's kind of like, it's kind
of like it because you're we're the same age, actually
a little bit younger than me, but you are infinitely
more experienced than me as a dad, And I put
down here it's ridden the confidence that Jordan gave me
(11:56):
to travel and to get out there and do stuff.
As one of the things that I've taken away from
this podcast. And I was quite proud to tell you that.
And I know it's not camping and you'll laugh at
what it is. But we've signed up to go on
that Disney cruise thing, which is that's great. Yeah, it's
four nights on a boat and it's like out of
our comfort zone. And Lucy's like, God.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I don't know if we should do it.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It sounds bloody hard.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
But everyone's spewing. Everyone's spewing, you know, the kid's spewing.
All I can say for that is Sea Legs. Find
out all the get all the things. Sea Legs give
them all the travel sick and stuff. Give it to
the kids, Give it to you even if you don't
think you get sick. You take them before you go ay,
before you go on the boat. You take it like
the day before, and then the next morning read it.
(12:40):
Don't overdose on it, but you know, and then the
night and we give them to our kids. But I
don't want to be sick.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
So I filled out the paperwork the other day and
one of the things and it takes me straight back
to where we were. It said, So we have dinner
at five o'clock every night with the girls. Yeah, dinner
on the boat. Is not served. The earliest dinner serving
on the boat is five forty five, and I was like, fuck,
that's by the time we eat, it's going to be
like an hour after dinner. And then I went straight
back to that thing where you said where you're like,
(13:05):
you're on hol day time. Bro, time's not real. Don't
you know if they stay up a bit later, they'll
sleep a bit later.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Who cares? Yeah, yeah, don't worry about it. You just
don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, you just put up with it, and you catch
up on that sleepiness when you get back. The sleeps
might be bad on the boat, but you're gonna come
back and be like whoa, that was heck the but
holy shit, like that was cool. They loved that we
did that bit. Yeah, there's gonna be bits one hundred percent.
We have a camper van trip coming up in January.
We're the last. The last time we did it.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
You would have a freaking camper van trip coming up.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
The last time we did it, they were tiny children,
which you can be like freak out mode, but now
they're giants, Like if I move, I'm gonna bump into
a giant nine year old Albert. And then giant eleven
year old meal is gonna be bumping into It's gonna
be tough, and we've already accepted that it doesn't happen
till January. Me and Jody know it's gonna be a
trip kind of from hell, but also a really good trip.
(13:58):
There's gonna be It's like a fifty to fifty. You're
gonna have fifty percent of awesome things and fifty percent.
We'll always look at each other and roll your eyes
and be like, oh gosh, remember that. But then you'll say,
holy shit, do you remember when we skim those stones
across that lake that no want have been to?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
How good is it that my version of parenting adversity
is going on a luxury cruise for four nights.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Hey, can you go back and read the note that
you wrote down about me, the nice positive thing you said?
What was it?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
I said?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I have looked at how you dared for guidance along
the way, and talking with you has given me the
confidence to get out there and actually do stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Oh holy one, call away, I'll be there to say.
This has been the track. This has been the soundtrack
to the podcast The Day. Just listen to for a
moment Superman's gardener. Who would have.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Thought, how too Dad? Actually knows how too Dad? Like
I thought it was I thought it was a joke,
but one.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Hundred percent still is like and I always come back
to me and Clint always do People put, Yes, we're
somewhere on the celebrity ladder, both of us in New Zealand.
But that doesn't mean that, oh well, we are amazing dads.
Let's catch up and tell everyone how to be amazing dads.
That is not it at all. I run a comical
page called how to Dad, and I am daily still
(15:20):
figuring this out. I daily have struggles. I daily have
chats with my wife about shit, how do we figure
this out? And just now I've just come home from
Touch with the playing the rugby game touch with my
eleven year old. She's had his shoes, so we've had
a moment trying to figure that out together. And I've
got Gnarla upstairs saying yeah sorry, yeah, international.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
In touch with my eleven year old.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah sorry. It's a version of rugby where you don't tackle.
It's called touch rugby. I've got a six year old upstairs.
You said, where are you going? Dad? I said, I'm
doing the final thing. But she's like, but you gotta
put my eye drops in because she woke up with
eyes stuck together in conjunctivitis. So there's always stuff going
on unless you're which no one ever talks about. And
I'm just going to raise it now because the last episode,
(16:07):
some people look at these actors and go, man, they're
amazing people, amazing parents. These Hollywood ones I called bullshit.
They go away on these They go away on these
movies for six months at least at minimum, away from
the family. They might fly back on her one Sunday,
but they are on set for every single day. And
people are like, oh, he's such an amazing dad. Part
(16:28):
of me thinks, Bro, you've made fifty million dollars in
your career. Now why are you doing back to back
to back. I'm not going to name the people that
I see this thing, people who are just going from
project to project to project to project to project. I'm like, bro,
can everyone stop looking at this guy through roast into glasses.
He had an amazing dad. He does not see his children.
His children nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You won the lottery, You have enough money to survive.
You for the rest of your life, and you could
spend every day hanging out with your children, but you
choose not to. I had the same thought when I
was listening to a podcast recently with Katie Perry. And
this is not to take anything away from working mums,
because I understand how extremely hard that is, but they
were praising her for how she's able to do everything,
and I was like, she has a like a living.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Nanny like her, And who's the guy.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
She's with, Orlando Giant, Penis Bloom.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Legalist, legalist, third leg. You know, it's not the same.
It's that meme where people go, you have the same
number of hours in your day as Beyonce. No you don't, No,
you don't. Beyonce has something groceries for you.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Beyonce doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Beyonce's a chef, Beyond has a chef.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Beyonce has infinitely more hours in her day than you do.
It's not the same. So comparisons are real. Joy Thief
and I think we talked about that early in the podcast,
as looking at your life and comparing it to what
you see on Instagram, It's just fucking bullshit and it's
not real.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I mean, fucking Clint Clint here, you know, throwing stones
at glasshouses with his new cleaner that he's just hired,
like Clint.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Of Cruise Ship cleaner Clinton over here, I put down.
One of my favorite things that we did.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
With this podcast was to talk about.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Visctames because that is such a taboo topic. And when
we hit first out of this podcast, I just recently
had one, and we had the planned that somewhere along
the podcast, you would have yours done too. Your kids
are older, your wife is yes, ready, we had your
wife on the podcast. Jodi came on and said I'm ready.
(18:31):
I'm ready, and we were going to do it.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
A year and a half ago. We we at the
start of this me and my wife are at a
point where we could have had another one. And then
she went off the boil, and so we had her
on and because I was keen, and then I I
I know law lit, I know Lie, I know Lie.
I booked it in. I went on the website. This
is four months ago. I booked it in. How mean
something tell me that I think I did? And then
(18:56):
something I think I did, And then something seriously came
up like I couldn't do it anymore because this thing
was up and I was like, shit, Jodie, won't you
tell me my victim's booked? So I've gone in and
free to cancel. I haven't paid anything, and I've canceled it.
And I'm like, I'll rebook that. But then who goes
and signs up to a big boxing thing that's four
months of like training and you can't so vasicko meies,
(19:18):
you can't do anything for a bit after doing it
where there's boxing things, I have to do shit every day,
Like that's the commitment. I may so and that isn't
putting me. I will get it done. But I'm like, no,
it's gonna have to wait now, and I'm not going
to get into see it won't happen now till after
summer because I don't want to have what is it?
Apparently you can't get your heart rate up for four
or five days and I'm it's summer. I want to
be at the beach. Bro, I'm not gonna be sitting
(19:39):
on a couch with peas between my nuts.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So I can reveal this to you now, I got approach.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I'm sorry, i gotta pause because I've just sounded like
the biggest chauvinistick, dude, this woman like my wife who
give birth. All my kids are born in the heights
of New Zealand summer. And here I am like, in
one line.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I was proud of us destigmatizing them and proving them there.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Big deal. Now I'm showing you something you can do
for your partner, and you're like, mane, I've got to
go for a surf. I don't want to fucking of
an operation.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
It's certainly I did, but I want to I want
to align it with which again it sounds so stupid.
My wife had all my kids in summer in New
Zealand January Febury. But I'm thinking, look, if I can
book this in I'm going to do it when. Yeah,
but I'm going to book it, and I'm going to
choose to do it not in summer, so I don't
have to have a week of being a nut going.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
So I can reveal this to you now. Behind the scenes,
you didn't know about this, But we got approached by
a vasecta ME clinic for VASEECTI ME Awareness Week and
they asked, Hey, would you guys like to do anything?
And I went back to them and I said, how
about this. We give away a vasict to me on
the podcast, and I offer Jordan a free visctomy on
(20:54):
the podcast as well. No pressure, but if we want
to do it, then we'll go and get it done
and we'll record the visct to me. And they said, yeah,
love it, love it great, let's do it. And then
by nature of what we talked about before, how neither
of us have any time just nothing happened with it.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, yeah, like a cool idea. It's like, imagine.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Great video and it would have been a great article.
But yeah, I was thus close top to offering you
a free versick to me. Not that price is the
main issue, but you.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Know, yeah, yeah, now I'll get it done. Although we
just went to Portway cuttle for Labor week in which
is a long weekend here in New Zealand, and my
dad lives over there and Dad a just looks at me.
It'll be a boy if you have another one, A,
you know, you'll have a boy. A. He's the one
who's keen. He's like, who's going to carry on the
Watson name? And I reminded him that Dad, by the
time my daughters all of age to get married, it'll
(21:45):
be very accepted and normal for them to hold onto
the Watson name. Yeah, so you don't you worry about that, mate,
And it's not that, but he's old school. It's not
the same though, It's not the same as having It's
not that boy yea.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Tools to.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I had noted down slightly getting the hots for the
voices that sometimes come through from our listeners. Look, I
have a thing for like we had quite a few
sixy like Irish and Scottish accents. And you know, straight
away when you hear an act any voice like someone
(22:19):
already said they were doing about you, Clint a few
weeks ago that hadn't never seen you, you know, you
start to picture and I.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Was Australia, she was Australian.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And I've listened to that message a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, yeah, h. I just wanted to a shout out
to all our internationals, you know who, because O and
all the Kiwi's sorry, all the Kiwi, all the Kiwi ones.
We're real sixy two Clint and Jordan, I totally love
your show. It's so good.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, yeah, we don't discriminate.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
The One of the last loose threads on this podcast,
as the conversation around getting the dog.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Oh yeah, which if we had a producer, I wanted
to do the cool thing of waiting leaving that till last.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, and we had a producer, we could flat back
now to last week. You gave me the stern word
about the dog and about how you won't regret the
dog and you should just do it, and things are hard,
but it's great. But once the dog settles in, it'll
just be sleep around the house. And why would you
deprive If you have the opportunity to do it, and
you know it's a good dog, why wouldn't you just
do it? I also, as our last piece of feedback,
(23:30):
I checked out and boxed one last time, and I
thought i'd played this message from Catherine that's coming.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Wow, clanks, dude, please get the dog for your kids.
They'll love it.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You won't regret it as.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Far as how much it will eat. We have a
great Dane and she's very, very fit. She gets two
cups of food twice a day. The dog food that
we buy is about forty eight dollars for a thirty
five pound bag US dollars. Sorry, so you have to
do a little conversions. But and your dog's not going
(24:02):
to eat quite as much as she does, so you
can afford to get the dog food. Goes and she
gets very high quality dog food, not the stuff from
the vet, but the highest quality stuff from the pet
food store, not just a grocery store. But hope this helps.
Please get the dog. You won't regret it. Bye. Thanks.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Oh what's a pound?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I don't know what a pound or a US dollar is,
but I appreciate the sentiment and the message I can reveal.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
We're gonna get the dog.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You're did the dog.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, we're gonna get the dog.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
This is the producer who shared. A producer would have.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Been good many the three year old Golden Retriever will
move in with.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Us this time next week.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Mate, see this. This had to be the last bit
of the podcast, but I had a few more things
noted down, and now it's like we're going backwards.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh shit, sorry, I gotta hit it myself.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
He didn't even pick up on my note. If you
will rewind thirty seconds from I'm like, oh, wait, this
is the bit. If we had a produce, we'd hold
this to the end. And I was waiting for your
radio brain to be like, yeah, let's hold that to
the end and he just carried on. So another great
example of why we're shutting the fucking shit shows down.
You know, we called out Pamel, which is the medicine
(25:21):
your your paracetamol for kids in a liquid form. You'll
probably have a different brand wherever you're from, but here
in New Zealand, the famous one is Pamel. And we
called out the fact that sometimes you buy a bottle
that comes in a bottle and you get given the
syringe and it doesn't have like a plug in the top.
So when you get to the end of the bottle,
you have it on this weird thirty five degree angle
(25:43):
and you're trying to get the syringine to get the
last bit out or now, and then you'll open the
box and there is what we call the Pamel butt
plug in the top, and that is a plug that
plugs the top of the bottle but as a whole
and you puncture your plastic syringe into it and so
you can get every last drop. And so I was
hoping that they would have heard this and been like, shit,
(26:04):
why are we playing April fools on people? Sometimes not
putting the butt plugs in the top of the bottles
I don't think anyone ever answered that query for us.
Why sometimes they had butt plugs and sometimes they didn't
have butt plugs.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Nah, but we did have a moment where people were
sending us after market butt plugs that you could get
for the bottles and you could retro fit your bottle
with a with an aftermarket butt plug.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, but some of those butt plugs were quite stinky
and quite leaky.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Would be my concern too, like if it's not a
custom butt plug made for the butt of your pamel bottle,
I think there was a huge risk of leakage, freakage.
So yeah, I wasn't into that.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, film you this was a This was a more
sentimental one for me at one stage, which I don't
get that sentimental that often. And it's a reminder because
we do it. We haven't done it for a little
bit for about a year, and we need to do another.
But film, sit your camera down and film a snapshot
(27:00):
of your life talking to your iPhone for your kids
later in life, because how cool would it be to
have seen your dad, your mum and dad right now
at thirty thirty five, sitting down and be like, Hi, Clint,
we live here right now Dad's doing this, I'm doing this.
You are like this, your brother's done this. But dah
da da takes two minutes. The kids can be in it,
(27:21):
they can walk through, and you do them like once
a year, and you'll put them in a little folder
try and get them. We never really figured out how
to get shit off your phone, Like all our phones
are filled up. But I have a hard drive. I've
had a backup and those videos are on it, and
it's something like I'll probably snip some out of it
for a twenty first video for the kids or something,
but they'll be there and I think it's cool, and
(27:42):
even me and Jody look back on the kids have
never seen them. But now and then when I have
to plug in the old drive to drag something off
for an edit, I'll find them. And I always call
Jody down and we sit and watch them and she
gets all emotional because she's really pregnant and a brand
new mum in them and they're just really cool.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I don't know if i'd be able to handle the day.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
The older I get, the more those like I said before,
with those photos that come up on the phone, they've
just really start to hit me of how the rate
of change. I know, I really love that idea, and
I'm gutted that I haven't started. But it's never too late, right,
You might as well, but.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
You don't do it. It's not said you're doing. You're
like filming. It's not sad like you just said it.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
I'm good that I haven't started, you know, like, oh, yeah, okay,
see us as.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
A new dad. No new mum, No, no, no, you
do it now?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
There are only three and bloody sex with three and five.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Someone gave me the advice to do that on just
before your first wedding anniversary and to go, hey, this
is our life. And I still didn't do it then,
but that would have been a good idea too.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
It's been rough. It was a real bad decision, but like,
we don't want to let everyone down and everyone down
and get a divorced. So we're just going to try
and put it through. We're just gonna try and keep
on pushing through. You know, she got pregnant, so I
had to kind of put a ring with a credit.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
We once set in the studio and talk to Morgan
being the sexologist, and we both suiteted really uncomfortably because
we couldn't, so.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
She was like that, Yeah, love, I love Morgan. I
think she's fantastic and I love what she does with
her sex positive content that she creates. But holy shit,
I don't know if she was the sex ologist for us.
She was too she's just too freaky.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, it's way, way too freaky. The sweat was one
from just being nervous then realizing, oh, this isn't too bad,
and then you realize that the snowy conditioning working so
the sweat is actually real, and then she'll throw a
curveball at you and then you'll feel yourself go read
and the sweat come back again. So that was fun.
You know, we hope that episode, that episode's there for
you guys.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
The main takeaway I got from that episode was if
your partner doesn't want to do it, you should just
do it next to them in bed.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Holy shit, that is exactly what she said.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, that was the advice.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
She said. A normal thing to do is to masturbate
next to your part.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
To your partner.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yeah, and they're not always going to be into it
into it with you, but that shouldn't stop you because
you have needs, So just do it next to.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Them all I imagine, is my wife tired? Right, this
is the funniest bit. And you can you can envision
this with your own wife, right, you know the nights
where they're tired, they've just put on that baggy T
shirt to go to bed. Their heir is up in
like a mumbar, and they don't want a bar of you. Like,
they're on their phone scrolling social media, like just go away.
You come in late to hop into bed, and you're like,
(30:33):
and you give them the nudger, We say, hey, so
what about it? And they're just like all they got
to do is make a noise or a look, and
you know, and then for them to carry on just scrolling.
They're not rolled over there on their back, just scrolling
on their phone. You're on your back next to them.
You whop out your penis and start I'm not evenna
say it, but imagine and what that they meant to
just lie there and be cool with that? Well and
(30:58):
then ah, yeah, so we were in a we were
in a room with no econditioning talking about that, and yeah, it.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
May be the right, but no, but so was not
what I was hoping to get out of it.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
But my argument being typical dudes who always have one
or two things on the brain that if you flip
the rolls, oh my god, that we ever not that
we ever say no, but that is the sexiest thing
in the world to us. That would be like, holy shit,
that is so cool. Why are we so different?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
It would never have been two reasons, One because they
would never do that, and two because we would never
be like, no, you just you.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Just take care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, yeah, I'd say that.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
We would last about fifteen seconds when we'd be.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Like, oh can I go Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. We'd
lie there and be trying to be angry on our
phones and just be holy shit, no, I got to
get some of this. I think I've only said once
to Jodie no once, and that's because I literally like
was about to ship myself, like I'd eaten something bad,
and I knew that we had, we had spoken that
(32:08):
it was going to happen, so I was hoping this
belly ache went away. I was almost trying to hide it,
and I just had to be honest and be like, oh,
we can't. I've got I've got the crooked scup, babe.
But other than that, I am ready to go. Okay,
I'm just but I talked to the sixth ologist and
she said, you shouldn't stop you from taking care of yourself.
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So now no, it's very normal
in our household. Now, Jodie's all right, you just do
(32:30):
you okay, thanks babe. And then I get the sixth wage,
which someone taught us about, which is just a triangle
bit of wood and that just slides under your door.
It's like, sorry, a doorstop. But because I see it,
it's weird putting a door lock on your door, because
now that my kids are older, Look, you can get
away with a four year old walking on you. They
don't really know what's happening. But I have in a
eleven year old and their bedroom is the closest to ours,
(32:51):
and if she walks in, now that image just see
it into her brain. So the six wige is a
great idea. Like putting a lock, I get it. Locks
are a bit weird on interior bedroom doors, but the
six wedge great idea. It's just a doorstop, guys, and
I just really they can't. I've tested it. They can't.
And you put a few bags there so you hear things.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
And or you do that college that university thing.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
We you go to her and you go, hey, if
there's a sock on the door handle, don't come in
because you know dad's busy.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You No, I'm definitely not telling my kid that did
you fix your snop? Did you fix your snoring? And
did you get ripped? Those are my last two things
I wanted to know.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
We were in fung A Matar for the long weekend
and I slept in one bedroom and Lucy slept in
the other bedroom. Is a wall between us because our
three year old doesn't sleep particularly well away, so she
knew she was going to come into that room. So
we had separate rooms, separated by a wall. And if
you imagine, the two beds are up against the same wall.
So I head starr together, separated by a wall. And
(33:48):
Lucy said to me she could hear me snoring through
that wall last night. So no, okay, didn't fix that.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
No one gave you any tips. None of the things
that came through have helped.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I bought that mouthguard.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
It's shit.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's too big to close your mouth. You can't close
your mouth with that mouthguarden. And the whole thing should
be about getting your mouth closed so you breathe through
your nose. So don't buy that mouthguard and the other
tips whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, and what you bought it? You bought a home gym?
Did you get ripped? No? Hell? On average? On average,
how many times do you use it a week?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I think I've used it no times since February, but
then in the last few weeks.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Have used it three times. Yeah, that cracks me up.
Let's go. That's typical every dude.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
You bought a home gym and an ice bath and
took up boxing.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Did you get rapped?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I'm on the pro I'm on I'm on the journey
of getting rapped.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I've lost journey, not a destination.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
I've lost almost ten almost ten killer in the last
four months. Wow yeah, wow, wow, Like actually this is
the first time. Oh here, here you go. Here's a tip.
Here's a tip to any guy, any dad who finds
himself in a bit of a rut. I was in
a real bad rut right waking up, just mainly about
(35:19):
health and like, fuck, you're just putting on weight. How's
the scale still going up? Jordan' sort your shit out
and then committing to something and falling off it. The
next day anyway, So signed up to this. It's like
a gym challenge, which this boxing thing is basically a
gym challenge. You can't say no, You've got a whole
group of you're doing it. You've got trainers on your ass.
So that's what I needed, right because my self motivation
(35:39):
was terrible, but this is like, you have to do it.
You can't let these people down. And Jody the other
day just quietly it is just like, it's not the
physical change, it's just you. It's I'm like, I've got
the hots for you. She said this, So there is
a tip for any guys out there.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Shit, And that was that was one of those things
where what does she mean it's not the physical thing.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Well, yes, the physical the physical thing. She's also weirdly
liking that, like these weird moments and I'm still getting
used to all of it. But like I'll come out
in a towel or I'll put on you motivate.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
But is that what it is?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Where I was there, I
was definitely in like a rut of just waking up
and being like, h and now I've just every day
I'm real focused on right, I've got this and we're
going to do that with the kids after school, and
I'm eating good food. I wasn't figure is back. I
really And I don't want to sound like Instagram. Yeah
I got my mojo back. I really did, And I
(36:35):
don't want to sound like one of these Instagram people
that talk down and be like I figured. I haven't
figured it out, but it's been a human change.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Put it down to joining up to a community. Find
it fitness people with a goal, a goal driven fitness challenge.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, I think find it like decide to run a
marathon with a group of people, or if a gym
says we've got one of these, a huge one at
the gym I'm at, and they are very community based.
Is this thing called a forty two day challenge which
is forty two days and it's and it's so true
for anyone out there because I did this for a
decade where I thought I could eat what I want
during the day and then just run real hard and
(37:12):
I'd be a psycho and go on to these runs.
But that doesn't work. Ninety percent of it is what
goes in your mouth. So like I eat, I don't
eat shit. I haven't eaten shit for two months now,
like I've had I'm eating it's a lot of eggs.
I'm eating eggs on a piece of toast. Calorie counting.
I'm calorie counting.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
In a sense, you are a changed man.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
I eat tuna. I eat tuna on rats for lunch,
and I eat chicken, broccoli and rice for dinner, and
then I have a protein shake and a banana as
snacks and I do that day in every day because
I don't have to figure out the anymore. Yeah, yeah,
I'll sit down with them, but I'm eating a different thing. Yep,
I'm eating different So you can't do that forever. No,
you can't do that forever. I'm doing that while I'm
on this boxing thing. But then outside of that, because
(37:55):
I've learned so much about food, you kind of just
know know what you're eating, Like calories make so much sense,
and people will be really against that. But for me,
I can have two and a half thousand calories a day.
I've done it for so long now that I know
what foods are kind of worse, so I can be like, yeah,
I can have that. Oh, I'll have a smaller lunch
because we just went out and had French toast, and
I know that that's blown my calories out, So I'll
(38:16):
have a smaller lunch and then for dinner, I'll make
sure I'm a bit healthier.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
This is a whole episode. Yeah, it's come too late.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I know it is a whole episode. It's like if
you saw me two years ago, I'd be laughing at me.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, because I also didn't go because the thing that
I get worried about is like talking about diet around
young girls and how do you balance that without getting
them to count their calories and that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, but they don't know that side of it. And
our coolest thing is that like Jody, Oh, JODI's the
one who got me into this. She did the forty
two day challenge like a year ago at this gym,
and I saw her change and things in her change,
and then she realized understood stood protein and food more. So.
Our kids have a lot of eggs in the morning,
and then they don't ask for morning tea. Our kids
(38:57):
no longer have morning tea on the weekends because we
give them heartier foods instead of like sugary cereal or
just bread. Anyway, it is a whole episode. But we're
on the last episode. I don't I don't just want
to become an hour. But guys, it's taken seriously. The
gag was since Meela was born eleven years ago. I've
put on a kilo every year and I actually have
(39:20):
and Jody it was our gag that I would every week.
I would say I'm going to be healthy this week,
and by Wednesday I was off it. I never committed
to anything, and this is the first time in a
decade that I've actually, I don't know how, I've just
done it and it's working and I feel really good
about it. So if you are in that rut and
the positives you get from your partner, your partner sees
(39:41):
more positives than you, is a big tick to do it.
So if anyone out there is on the cusp of
being like, shit, yeah, I'm going to commit to this,
do it. I said, do it. Do it?
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Do it? Mate.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
All you had to say is your partner'll be more
interested in you. I would walk over broken glass for
a little bit of damn, you're looking good.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, I've had we talked about this recently and now
I've had a few of them here and then I'm like, well,
I blush, oh, blush, and I don't even know what
to do. And I'm like, well, okay, I've still got
a bit.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
To lose, Like you, wait, I think we've got to
wrap it up, man, Yeah we do.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
It's been way too long, forty minutes, Jesus, but it's
the last one.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
We're always going to overindulge.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
This has been a very rewarding journey for me personally,
just talking with another dad about the joy of parenting,
because everyone sort of loves to complain about parenting, and
we've done lots of complaining on this podcast as well too,
but talking to another dad my age, where you can
just and also not worrying that you're gonna bore people
(40:38):
with talking about your kids. That's a big part of
being a parent too, as you go oh, fuck, no
one wants to hear that. No one wants to hear
that shit, but actually going, oh, this is a place
where we can do this. So yeah, it's been it's
been bloody good man. I've really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah, Typical New Zealand dads and probably dads around the world,
will get off scot free almost by oh you got
a baby on the way mate. Yeah, oh sure, good
luck with that. Yeah yeah, and that was it it
yeah yeah yeah, and you dealt with it yourself. So yeah, No,
this is the bit where we can sell source and
say hats off to us because we were just we
(41:15):
are just a couple of dads who chat around the
water call every week and all in all positive chat
about being dads. So hope it's filled, it's I hope
it's helped some scared dads. I hope it's helped change
perceptions around being a dad. And like Clint says, it
sits there. It's there, So if you know of anyone,
(41:38):
let them know it's there again. Or mums and mums
and mums.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yes, moms have been a huge We didn't expect mums
to be such a big.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Part of this audience.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I think they're the bulk of the audience, which is
always the way with these things. At first we thought
we were going to be dad talking to dads, but
it wasn't. Its parents talking to parents.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
And also mums just wanted to check in and be like,
what are these bloody idiots going to stuff up on? No,
that's not how we do it. And then and they Hello, Hello.
Are trying to but their sexy little lerish voice? Anyway,
We'll leave it there. I've had a beer. Thank you
for listening. That's it. We're not going to be There
might be something on the Instagram, but that's it. This
(42:19):
isn't a prank. We're done over and out. The parenting
came over. Thank you very much for listening. I've been
Jordan Watson.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
And I've been Clint Roberts.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
This is your news today. Those were a good night
wait
Speaker 2 (42:37):
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