THE RE-WRAP: No Stars for You

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Uber Ain't What it Used to Be/From TOP to OP/The Ultimate Hybrid Office/Roasting Your Own/Hosk's Footprint

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
The rewrap Ah, Good there and welcome to the rewrap
for Tuesday. All the best. That's from the mic asking
breakfast on Newsbalalk s. He'd be in a sillier package.
I am Glen Heart and today the top Party is
no more. Now it's just the old party. Have you
noticed something weird about Vladimir Putin's office? Mike explains how

(00:50):
he wrote his own copy at home and also describes
his current carbon footprint before any of that. Uber drivers
don't really want to be Uber drivers by the sounds
of things.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yes, the Supreme Court they ruled in favor of a
handful of Uber drivers who wanted to be employees, not contractors.
The case was backed by a U union. Now here's
your trouble. The gig economy is based on freedom of movement,
work for whoever you want, whenever you want, work for one,
work for two, work for as many as you like.
This case potentially messes with that. Making it slightly more
complicated is the fact the government has new law working

(01:22):
its way through the House trying to define this very issue,
because the reason we are here is because both the
Appeal Court and the Employment Court and now the Supreme
Court have decided the drivers have a case, and the
reason they have a case is because the law obviously
allows it. The trouble is, I don't think that was
ever the intent of the gig economy. Now, the drivers,
if you followed the case, have protested and done all

(01:43):
the usual placard waving about rights and holiday pay and
overtime and sickly. But that was never meant to be
what the gig economy was about. If you want security,
if you want acc cop, don't work for Uber. As
far as I know, Uber and the Lake have never
said there were anything other than a provider of the
chance to work when you want or not. You can
work for whoever you like, however many times you like.

(02:04):
You've been in a cab. Is it a cab? Is
it an Uber? Is it a deed? Is it a bolt?
Is it all of them? That's the gig economy And
guess what, some people like it that way. That's the
freedom of choice. Now the law needs to protect the model. Now,
the unions will tell you that people get ripped off
and they work long hours, and those long hours are
quite too shockingly bad hourly wages. Although that might be

(02:26):
true or not, but it still doesn't. I mean, it's
not the point of the model. And if the law
wrecks the model, then the law needs to be changed.
Now we've seen some of the cases in various parts
of the world, of course, and by and large, the
outcome here is the outcome there. So it may be
uber as we know it isn't long for this world.
What was once a disruptor might be a little bit
closer to being extinct.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
To tell you one thing I don't want when I'm
in an uber as women lecture on industrial relations. I
get enough of that at work. So yeah, no stars
for you.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's the rewrap.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
So speaking of people who don't want to be the
thing that they are anymore. The Opportunity Party, so it
used to be top they've got rid of. Hang on,
explain what's happening here.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Mike, Welcome back Opportunity. I think I've got that part right.
Opportunity is the former the Opportunities Party. They've dropped the
V and the party. Now it's just Opportunity, new leader,
new tax policy. They've been looking for a leader for ages.
They even advertised if you remember. None of this is
a good sign. Of course, their biggest problem, as far
as I can work out, as the market is full,

(03:35):
there is no room for another political party right here
in this country. There's no room ten years ago. There's
even less room now. You could argue, I don't, but
you could that as the MMP environment evolves and matures,
some nuance is sought by a frustrated electorate, a boutique operator,
if you will, as the major parties fade, and that's
already happened, of course, the days of National and Labor
cracking forty are well gone. The days of even a

(03:56):
two party government might well be gone as well. So
as it all fragment, surely there must be room for
a small operator wedging its way in between, say National
and Labor, as a sort of midway. Subtle old two
trouble is and I argue this years ago when Gareth
Morgan was running the joint. Five percent is actually a
lot of votes and very few of any cracket. Look

(04:17):
at acts journey for years. They needed a deal in
EPSOM to work the system in that coattail. There's a
reason Unite had vanished. What they should have done is
run Morgan in an electorate. Name recognition would have helped.
He may have got the seat, got two percent had
a party of two or three MP's. Being in and
staying in is easier than getting there in the first place.
And here's the other issue. Nuance is not what we

(04:39):
do anymore. That's why radicals are gaining support all over
the world, from Hanson and Australia to the minor players
who make up governments and places like Holland and Germany.
You need to be more left or right than center.
Could we also argue, actually that New Zealand First is
centrist given they're the only party that can legitimately at
the moment anyway claim the ability to deal with either
national or labor. So the field's taken. So good on

(05:00):
them for keeping the opportunity dream alive. I guess still
here after a decade. I guess either visionaries whose time
has yet to come or dreamers who can't read the room.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I just don't understand why you'd give away the ability
to be called top and now you're just op I mean,
could you use the campaign slogan it's all or not?
I don't know if you really want that, do you?
Speaking of weird political goings on, it turns out that

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Putin maybe set up the ultimate hybrid office.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Funny. There's a group that has been working on Putin's office.
He's got three officers, but you're not supposed to know that.
So whenever he does something from his office, they say
he's in Moscow, but he might or might not be,
but they look identical. But this group has been working
for years, thousands of hours of video footage, and they've

(05:57):
seen a couple of things that give him away. One
of them is the door handle height, and one of
them's where the PowerPoint on the wall is. And if
you look really closely in different offices, you can work that.
The idea is he's somewhere you don't know, so you
don't blow them up.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
This explains a lot because I've always thought it looks
like something out of a nineteen seventy sitcom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
In fact, yeah, I can't believe I've never realized this before,
because I've been involved in amateur traumatics over the years,
and certainly with a lot of set building and having
to provide the props and things like that. That's exactly

(06:31):
what that explains so clearly. Why all the phones look
like they're thirty years out of date, and none of
the and there's no real fiend to the interior decoration.
It's just sort of bland and also decades out of it.
I thought that was just a Russian thing, but it
turns out that it's the only way that they could

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make three different offices looking more or less exactly the same.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Rewrap right.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
If you've ever wondered how Mike Hosking managers to hit
the ground running every morning with so much vim and vigor,
it might be something to do with the beans he users.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I'm all about saving money, so I've long been an
advocate and the POSPO industry hates me for it, but
I've long been an advocate of get yourself a good
coffee machine, make your own coffee at home. You save
yourself a fortune. Right, You'll payoff your machine even if
you get a good one in a couple of years time,
from the money you save. Now new development, I got
a coffee roasting machine and I thought, is this going

(07:27):
to be interesting? And the main part of the story
is it's made by a company called Cafe Logic who
are in Dunedin. Now, Cafe Logic sadly are one of
the few remaining manufacturers of appliances in this country. So
in other words, we are not a manufacturer of appliances.
And I think that's a sad state of affairs because

(07:49):
we can produce appliances. And these people are a classic
example because the machine they produce is used by the
majority of winners of international competitions. So, in other words,
professional roasters use this machine in international competitions. And when
you look at all the people who win these competitions,
about sixty percent of those people were using this Cafe
Logic machine. So not only do we produce a machine,

(08:10):
we produce a world class machine. So why aren't we
better at manufacturing world class products? So that's number one.
Second thing. I think, how much a bean's green beans
are thirty bucks? You can pay thirty five if you
want a kilo. Now you do the quick math. I
looked up the supermarket coffee at twelve bucks for two

(08:31):
hundred grams, so you do the math on that. That's
forty eight dollars, fifty dollars, sixty dollars a kilo, depending
on what you're buying and whether it's on special blah
blah blah. So you're doing half the price for green beans,
so automatically you're saving money left right and center. So
if you're doing on my old measure of ten cups
a bag, you're doing coffee at about seventy cents a cup.

(08:52):
So ask yourself, next time you're paying five and a
half dollars, this is for espresso, after it, next time
you're paying five and a half bucks for espresso in
a cafe. Why are you paying five and a half
when you can do it at home for seventy cents
or maybe a dollar at max. You're saving a fortune,
and of course you're having fun. And what I discovered
also your house smells incredible because of course when you
roast your own beans, and it's a simple machine, you

(09:12):
just put the bean.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
To How many beans I'm just looking.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
At does one hundred and twenty grams? So you'll do
that's not very much?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Not many? But I mean takes ten minutes. If you
want more, do more? Do twenty minutes worth? Do two
hundred and forty. You've got a bag's worth a bag
last few week, so you do two lots yeah, they're
two hundred grams. But so you do one twenty two
lots of one twenty is two hundred and forty. So
you've got a bag there, Glen.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
So you've done buy the Barista bags and there's seven
hundred and fifty grams.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Well, therefore you've spent spend an hour on a Saturday
making a kilo of coffee beans. Save yourself a fortune.
All I'm saying, I reckon. You can pay the machine
off in savings in six months. You can pay a
coffee machine off in less than two years. So in
two years, two and a bit years, you can be
in business and every single coffee you make from then

(09:57):
on is saving you money. It's free coffee. Now why
wouldn't you do that? So anyway, that's my big discovery
at the moment. And you can do all the recipes
and that sort of thing. If you're into that sort
of thing, you can change it up and buy itferent
beans and different countries and different places, different altitudes and
all that. But the basic is you throw the beans
and put go. Ten minutes later, boomb.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Theres Have you got the chef collector?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I've got a chef collector. You need a chef collector,
because that's what happens post the beans. But you see
the beans, they go well, the jumble around, they go brown,
and the house smells incredible, and the coffee tastes incredible,
and you've saved yourself money. I'm growing capsicums, I'm roasting
my beans.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Come on, does it collect up other chef or just.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
No, it doesn't. Unfortunately all the other chef round house.
You've got to get yourself.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Still feel like it's easier to use minor espresso virtuo machine,
which is not to be confused with the original mystresho style.
These are the ones. They actually have a decent shot
of coffee and and you can make a nice milky laugh.
That's that's the easiest way to do it, isn't it.
I don't want to. I don't want to be worried

(11:01):
about chaffs, the rewrap. There's a lot of weird, weird
staff go on at Hosky's place, which is why if
you tries to claim that he's not leaving a carbon blackbrend,
I mean, you know, the roasting the coffee beans in
an appliance. I don't know how good bet is for
the environment.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
For a start, Mike, you should care about your car emissions.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Why what for?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
You don't know my footprint. My footprint and other aspects
of my life might offset my carbon emissions. I may
indulge in carbon emissions from a car, but offset by
I don't know, growing my own vegetables at home and
roasting my own coffee beans you see, and wandering around
barefoot looking like a homeless person. Mike, that was an
expert level dodging by Chris Bishop. Please keep asking questions
so Paris is pointless and costing the speaks. Think about

(11:47):
old Christopher yesterday. I don't think and he's a bright guy.
Don't get me wrong. It's not a criticism. Even he
was struggling to explain what the system is. And here's
the fundamental problem with the system. Importers of cars are
either pinged or they're given credits. But they're given credits
to bring in things we don't want. And there is
no business model in the world where you are rewarded

(12:10):
for bringing in things you can't sell, because that's not
a market. It's stupid. There's an ev Look at it.
Isn't that beautiful? Well, yes it is. Do you want
to buy it. No, I don't, but I get credits
for bringing them in, and I, as a customer, goes,
so what, I'm not buying your car. Give me a
V eight. Oh, but I get charged to bring in
a V eight. I don't care. I want a V eight.

(12:33):
You've got to meet the market. That's how markets work.
And the moment you jurymand to the market because you
went to Paris a decade ago, that's when you get
yourself in trouble. And that's why they've got the problem
they've got at the moment.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I mean, you've got the coffee roaster, you've got the sauna,
you've got the plunge pool, you've got one hundred inch TV.
You're not offsetting that. I don't care how many sticks
of celery you're growing in your greenhouse. It's been a
weird old morning, which is what we like. It's what
I like anyway. I am the chief Weirdo Glenn Hart,

(13:07):
and I'll be back with more weirdness for you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
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