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October 28, 2025 • 12 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Wednesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) I Thought We Weren't Doing This/You Know That Other Thing I Said Wouldn't Work?.../It's Just Food/Robot Apocalypse Update/Alien Apocalypse Update

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap there and welcome to the rerap for Wednesday. All
the best bits from the mic asking breakfast on news Talks,
they'd be in a sillier package.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I am Glen Hart and this morning.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
So you know, that thing that Mike told everybody was
never going to work looks like it might actually work.
A social media band we're talking about, so maybe the
one that has been proposed here might work too. Nimbiaism
is alive and well people do not want fast food
in their backyard.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Picked yourself and we've got a.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Robot apocalypse update and an alien apocalypse update, so it's
a double apocalypse update update for you at the end
of the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
But first I thought we were going to talk about
this after we talked about it all day yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Tony Alexander summed it up perfectly yesterday the CGT idea
he opens us in one roof read the full thing.
Let's say people ignore the improvements in the economy and
jobs and the jobs market and the uptick in house
prices and vote labor. Let's also put aside, the following
folk like me do not need free doctors' visits. I'm
happy to pay and will willingly subsidize other sick people. Also,

(01:30):
the tendency of taxes to retard rather than drive economic growth,
employment and productivity. The absence of a pool of billions
of dollars to flow into our other investments, because most
money used by investors is borrowed and not already saved equity.
So it makes the immediate point as the chances are
that the government are going to get back next year
because all the aforementioned are going to happen, and this
thing will never be a thing. Here's my long term prediction.

(01:51):
I've offered this once, but I'll reiterate it now. Here's
my long perm prediction. Next year is not a foregone conclusion.
In the election. The polls will tell us this, and
we all get a bit angsty an election year and
things is eb and flow and it all gets a
bit exciting. That's why most of us love election year.
But ultimately the government will be returned because history shows
us that's what happens. Generally, you get two terms at

(02:11):
which point, either on the night Chippy will resign or
if he doesn't want to resign on the night. He
will be rolled a couple of weeks later because he
will have taken his party to the election with another
failed tax policy, and they'll be wanting to get rid
of them. The big question, this is the important question
for us, all those of us who would like to
stay in the country for a sustained period of time
instead of bailing like everybody else. The big question is

(02:32):
for the Labor Party at that point, having taken that
policy to the campaign for a fourth time and failed,
do they get rid of it forever? And do they
become a centrist labor party as opposed to a left
leaning labor party. That's your big question.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, the more I hear people here at Newstook said
b Rail against this policy of Labors, the more I'm
coming to understand why they've done it and why they
probably think it's quite cool that it's got sort of
people who are maybe have a reputation for being somewhat
right leaning thrashing and wailing and gnashing their teas. You know,

(03:09):
they probably quite enjoy what we may happen.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
So rewrap.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I have no idea what they're saying on social media
about it. I'm not really on social media, but some
people are, and perhaps under sixteens shouldn't be.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Now do we have a major win for the Australian
government and is their win potentially our win? So yesterday
at a Senate hearing a major social the major social
media players capitulated and confirm they would comply with Australia's
new ban on under sixteens on social media. Now the
rule is set to become law in December. Up until
this point, several issues have been at play. One, a
government led inquiry found no one single application that allows

(03:43):
under sixteens to be banned, and I'm not sure that's
actually changed. Two some of the major tech players that
threatened to simply turn off their services in Australia. And
three one that's still very much alive and regal. When
the account asks your age, like abooz outlet, are you
over or under sixteen? What's stopping you lying? Lots of
activities have aged restrictions. Of course, the gap between the
theory and the reality remains large. Counter argument is, at

(04:06):
least it's a start. It might well have chilling effect.
I mean, no, it doesn't capture everyone, but it captures
some and in capturing some maybe it becomes a thing.
You then come to the other reality what these companies
say versus what they do now. They claim they will
take down accounts. Will they probably if it gets embarrassing
or a noise is made. But anyone who's ever had
ads involving their image spooking things like crypto knows full

(04:27):
well these companies are not what you would call aggressively
proactive and what in reality it takes as phone calls
and letters from exercise victims to actually get some action.
But the upshot appears to be this a month back,
this thing was a fenciful waste of time, a thought
bubble going nowhere fast, a well intentioned blue sky press
release from an interventionist government. As of yesterday's Senate inquiry,

(04:48):
It's at the very least a good day for those
who argue that social media does more harm than good,
a good day for parents who to spirit their kids
and their online obsessions. And a good day for a
government that made a bold call at a time that
didn't seem backed up by a workable solution, but now
looks at least plausible.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Still maintain just ben it for everyone? Why should kids
be the only lucky ones to have this rot on
our minds removed rewrap Right, How would you feel if
somebody wanted to build a Starbucks or a McDonald's in
your neighborhood. Yeah, if you're anything like me, you go, yeah,

(05:29):
that seems handy.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
Between Tray and Wanaka, we're seeing excellent examples of our towns, communities,
and our economy is getting held back. At the moment
traw you got Burger King and Starbucks Wanica. It's the
famous macat scrap Now makers are back for a second crack,
having been dispensed in round one by the locals who
you would have thought were repelling the Germans or locusts. Now.
Before we get into the nitty gritty, it's the wrong

(05:50):
place where special. We don't have these sort of things
at our place. What we need is some simple rules, right.
The simple rule should be is what you do illegal.
If it isn't, there better be a spectacular reason, then
it shouldn't go ahead. Next rule is, if you want to,
you've got to pay for it, Pay and win, you

(06:11):
get a refund, pay and lose. Tough luck. Should be
the same for things like the BSA. By the way,
the simple truth about human nature is if you give
certain sorts of people a free run at winging, they're
going to go to town so wanaka classic Nimbi territory.
Because all we all know why Mac has got a
hard time round one, don't we? We all know their
low rent fast food is low rent. The snobbery is nauseating.

(06:32):
One of the submissions last time you may remember was
from Health New Zealand. For goodness sake, I mean what
they were doing raised eyebrows all the way to the
minister's officer who told them to pull their heads in,
but they argued obesity rules. See maccus is no more
linked with obesity than the fish and chip shop. But
because the fish and chip shop is quaint and Bill
and Mary your neighbors run it, and it's a bit
of key, we nostalgia. We don't think of it like
we think of macis the value of killing all the

(06:54):
excuses is they're a Pandora's box. Of course, once one
excuse flies, derivatives of the excuse get invented, groups are formed,
lawyers are hired, tensions rise campaigns are launched. It's all on.
I've got no personal interest or stake in mac as,
we're burger king all Starbucks. But what I do know
is that they are legitimate businesses. They pay tax, they
employ people, and some people, well some people like to

(07:16):
frequent them. Selling food should not be a reason for
an objection or commissioners or submissions or any sort of
process that stops people getting on with life.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah it's only food. I mean some of it's just
barely food. But yeah, it is only food. Come on, guys,
and it's a rewrap. At least it's still people who
work there.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
I might exull.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Maybe there's how many robots do they have working at
McDonald's stabacks these days?

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Not sure.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I'm doing a lot of reading of late on jobs.
Jobs are becoming a thing and the robots have arrived.
So Meta are laying off an undisclosed number of employees
at what they call their risk organization. They did have
people do that, They're now going to get AI to
do it. As of yesterday, Amazon, it was reported, were
going to lay off as many as thirty thousand. Good news,
it's only turned out to be fourteen thousand. Ccrosoft have

(08:08):
already laid off fifteen thousand so far this year, Meta
six hundred, Google more than one hundred in their design
related roles, sales Force four thousand, Intel twenty two thousand.
Close to twelve hundred tech companies since twenty three have
laid off over two hundred and sixty thousand people because

(08:29):
of AI or robots. Amazon have got a thing called
blue Jay. Now, this is their new robotic system in
their warehouses and it's they're testing it in South Carolina
as we speak. The difference with blue Jay and any
other robot is blue Jay does four things at once.
So once a robot would just like sort or a
robot would pack, blue Jay does everything. And so at

(08:53):
that point they turn around to their people and they go,
sorry about that, no longer needed. Target eighteen hundred corporate
jobs have gone. Check. Now you won't necessarily have heard
of check, but Check's interesting checks and educational facilitator. And
what you normally do is you might Google. You know,
what's the maths equation that I could put to my
five year old that might get fit to CHEG chick

(09:14):
fit step back, because no one googles anymore because of AI.
Their KAPEX has gone from fourteen point seven billion down
to one hundred and fifty six million their sheer price
is tanked ninety nine percent so far this year. So
that's once again the effect of AI, and they're laying
off people like this No tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
If my financial advisor came to me and said, can
I interest you in CHEG and I'd probably say, look,
I'll stop you right there and just said would be
the end of the conversation. I wouldn't even want to
know what it was that they were doing. Come on, no,
who would invest in chig?

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Seriously? And then I'd say, who are you? I don't
have a financial.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Advisor, I mean other than the one I'm married to obviously,
So anyway.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, so it turns out robots are taking over the world.
Happened the rewrap? I wonder who will get us first?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Will it be the robots call the aliens?

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Hey, Mike, that man's inspirational. Thanks for having him on.
Great Pleasure, Mike. Great interview with Sir Peter Becky's beang
on What a fantastic guy. His story should be the curriculum.
Peter Becker is awesome. I'm past fifty nine and I
want to be him when I grow up. Mike, I
cannot believe you didn't ask him about the asteroid that's
circling our solar system. We mentioned it briefly on the program.
What's it called? Thirty one AX or thirty one line

(10:35):
or thirty one b R whatever?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
EI slash atlas.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Three, I slash atlas.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
It's not an asteroid?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Well?

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Probably a meteor okay, but meteor Glen, what is it?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well?

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah, exactly. That's why I should have asked Peter Beck
that question.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
I know that a meteor becomes a meteorite if bits
of it land on Earth.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Correct. What if I'd said to Peter Beck, what do
you reckon? He goes, as far as we can tell,
and I've just been down in the control center. Its alien?
What if it said that? That would have been the
scoop of the ye, wouldn't I, mister near My mind.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Actually turns out, of course, it's not a meteor either,
or a media roid or a meteorite.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Certainly not an asteroid.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
It's a comet apparently, well unless the blow from Harvard
because he just thinks it's a forty chance of being
a pain in spacecraft is right. So a comet is
mostly made of ice. That's why it has a tail,
because it's the ice melting away as it approaches the sun.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Asteroid that's rock.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Meteor medioroid is something that's passing through.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
It's a small, small.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Chunk of something, and then it becomes a meteor when
it's in the Earth's atmosphere, but it's a shooting star
essentially meteorite once it's landed.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I was right about that.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Oh well, I'm glad I've got that because I mean
that is basically astrophysics and rocket science, isn't.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
It that stuff? Don't you feel smarter now?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Have?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Do you ever have visited the end of the podcast.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Let's just ask him the glory at that before I
make you feel stupid again tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
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