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March 2, 2025 • 13 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Monday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) When Diplomacy Is Lost In Translation/Some Quite. Some Don't/Are We Over-Hyping Liam?/Hammer Time/Virtual Goodies Aren't That Good

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rerap Okay there and welcome to the re Rap for Monday.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
All the best, but it's from the Mic Hosking Breakfast
on News Talk ZEDB. In a sillier package, I am
Glen Hart Today. People quitting are all the right people quitting?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Are only some of the right people quitting?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Liam Lawson hasn't even got started yet and already people
are pouring cold water on his prospects this f one season.
What is thorium and why do people want it? And
what's in the Oscar goodie bag this year? But before
any of that, yes, Trump versus Zelenski, is this a
bad look all around? Or did somebody went on points? Now?

Speaker 4 (01:01):
You can argue until you're blue in the face as
to whether what happened to the White House Saturday was
bullying or unfair. But what do you, as president has
on his side? Of course's common sense and military power.
As Zolensky slunk off to Downing Street for a hug
with Kiir and today's meeting with the King, what few
in Europe seem to understand is that saying you back.
Ukraine doesn't win a war, ll come close to it

(01:22):
Without America. This thing is over and fast. Mark Rutter
gets that, hence his plea to Zelensky to repair the damage.
No America, no war. Norway promised more resource, or at
least they said they would ask their parliament. The UK
announced another two and a half billion pound loan. But
for what this thing is three years old, it's going
nowhere at best with America fully on board, it's a stalemate.

(01:43):
It is, as so many have put it, now, a
meat grinder, and Russia has more meat to grind. What
was on displan Washington was a simple reality of the
Trump administration. They're not interested in war, They're interested in deals.
A mineral agreement sees the Americans on the ground in Ukraine.
No one's rolling over American interests militarily in Ukraine once
they're on the ground. Trump is also right in saying

(02:05):
this sees far as pretty much instant, and it's at
that point you start working on the what next bit.
All the photo ops and lovins that Zelensky appears to
rebel and doesn't get you an inch of your country back,
and it doesn't give you any advantage over the Russians.
NATO are incapable of beating Russia without American buying. That
buying is over. Trump keeps it super simple. Zelensky has

(02:27):
no cards to a lesser degree, Europe has only limited cards.
It is why America is America. Without them, We're done.
And where I think Trump is most right is he
appears the only one interested in actually getting the things.
Sort of. The Europeans talk about peace, but peace as
a result of victory. There can be no victory. Three
years shows us this. The only victory is Russia's if

(02:47):
America bails.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
I do wonder if somethings that have got lost in translation.
I've just because I've noticed that recently, old lotimyor he's
really gone freestyle with the you know, no translator, not
speaking as native tang, you know, really giving.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
English a good go.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
And I just wonder if when Trump started saying things
like we hold all the cards, that Zelenski, ah.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I'm so sick of them, you know.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Using these kinds of phrases and making everything sound trivial,
and just because he didn't quite have that grasp of
the English language, that's what set him off. Whatever it was,
it was great to have somebody argued back with Donald
for once. Rewrap right so high, another high profile resignation

(03:39):
in the public service.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
As parmat public service it is, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I think so?

Speaker 5 (03:46):
But Mike still got this thing about Caleb Clark.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
How did the two conneck lessons and morals for you?
This Monday morning? So Sarah Fitt in Battle CEO at Farmac,
quit on Friday, note the day Friday was hopefully always coming.
Her reputation was unrecoverable after the leakon communications around Rachel Smaller.
You might remember in the campaign she was running at
the time, the language and those emails really, I mean,
the haughty tome, the arrogance all gave fit away. And

(04:10):
then came a new government, a new board chair and
of course the menopause patch disaster. So basically it's a
troubled organization run by a woman who had to go.
So it's all worked out then, But then Caleb Clark
all black. So last week we asked what it takes
to be sacked as an all black. Andrew Bailey politician
doesn't come close to breaking anything far less a law,
but two odd incidents dohmen because of expectations around behavior.

(04:34):
Fit was damaged because of her behavior. Since the Clark
story last week, our knowledge of events has gone from
speeding and failing to stop for the police too, the
revelation he was doing one hundred and twenty in a
fifty k zone. He ran a red light, He had
the helicopter chasing him. This is all new news. They
pinged him at eighty, he sped up to one hundred

(04:55):
and twenty. He's on his bike, he's pled guilty. As
lawyer wants to discharge without conviction. If we accept, and
I only do so reluctantly, by the way, But if
we accept that profile comes with expectations beyond your specific
pursuit the life to the profile in the first place,
I e. Rugby player, but also community leader, politician answerable
to the public, CEO, running public money, all that sort

(05:15):
of stuff. What's the trigger for cancelation of contract once
the court has dealt with you, if laws have been
broken in the specific case, if evading police is not sackable,
what exactly, as an all black would you have to
do to lose your john? Now, don't get me wrong,
I don't actually personally want Clark sacked. I'm not out
to get him or anything, but I also feel sorry
for Bailey. Even though I myself have high standards and

(05:36):
expectations of people, I still feel sorry for Bailey fit.
I won't miss I found her treatment and those emails
most distasteful, and spoke volumes about her. But surely Clark
is serious. Running from the cops and in a dangerous
fashion is flat out a crime. So if he survives,
does he survive because all blacks are untouchable or because
that sort of crime is no longer that bigger deal?

Speaker 3 (05:59):
More importantly, should we only give jobs to people whose
last name somehow fits?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Excuse the pun? Fair?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
So Sarah Fat, you know, dolling out medicine to people.
Simon Watt's the minister in charge of sorting out the
power supply problem. I mean, I think if Caleb Park
wants to keep his garb, he really needs to change
his name to Caleb Speedy.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Or something like that.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Rep Speaking of speed, let's hope Liam Lawson produces plenty
of it this year, does the host?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Thinking?

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Well?

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Can I just while I'm on this business, I mentioned
briefly the F one testing, which came to an end
in Bahrain on Friday our time. I'm always interested. Tremendous
and good feedback from red Bull. Internally. I know they
love Lawson. He's embedded in the side brilliantly. He's giving
the engineers in particular, fantastic feedback. They felt really good

(06:55):
about what was going on. But a piece I read
over the weekend from an international observer they're worried about him.
In fact, will Lawson see out the season at red
Bull was the question, And they go back to the
Carlos Science thing and said, why wouldn't they have taken
Carlos Science he was available. Why wouldn't they have promoted

(07:16):
Yuki Snowda, who's got vastly more experienced. There seems to
be a real body of thought, and I just worry
that where patriarch a little bit patriotic in it. In
other words, Oh Lawson, we love him, fantastic, he's going
to be amazing, all that sort of stuff. Whereas you know,
people who have no vested interest whatsoever have a look
at this and go what they're expecting of them is
nigh on impossible. In other words, to keep up with

(07:38):
Verstappen and the general commentary from testing was that when
Verstappfin got in the car, he was faster. There was
no question he was faster, and Red Bull were genuinely competitive.
When Verstappen was in the car. He was there all
of day three. Lawson was there all of day two.
Lawson was fine. There was nothing wrong with Lawson, but
he didn't set the world on fire. Ultimately, he never

(08:00):
and this is their observation, not mine, he never looked
as comfortable as Forstappen behind the wheel. That's not surprising.
He hasn't got the experience of Verstappan. Of course throughout
the early part of the season that should continue. They
think the bottom line forum will be how we're shaping
up after eight or nine rounds. It would be an achievement,
brackets and a surprise if he is in place at

(08:23):
the end of the season. So that is a bit
of a reality check. So we watch and wait with
the Great Delils. But as we said earlier, it's just
a couple of days until Drive to Survive drops and
then we're off to Melbourne and March, or in the
latter part of March.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
At which point I reminded Mike that it is March
because when he said the latter part of March. It
sounded like he was thinking it was a different month
to the one he was in. Sometimes he needs a
reminder about these sorts of things. He did start the
show this morning by telling everybody it was thirteen minutes part,
even even.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Though it was seven past six. The rewrap.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
That's what he's got me for, to keep track of
those little things while he can concentrate on the big
things like radioactive isotopes.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
H thorium, which I didn't know a lot about until
I started looking it up. Now that I've discovered, China's
got some thorium's worth knowing about, because they have discovered
in Mongolia enough thorium, and as it turns out, you
don't need much of it to basically power the world forever.
So the whole idea that we're going to need oil
and gas and coal and it's simply not true. If

(09:26):
thorium turns out to be what they think it is, the.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
Stuff that the hammers made out of, is it? I
don't know, well sure why asked what they call it?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Thorium.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
It's sort of radioactive, kind of radioactive, but not in
a freak out kind of radioactive way. It's a declassified
report that came out over the weekend from China. They've
got these reserves, exceeding previous estimates by many by orders
of magnitude like as and they've got miles more than
they thought. That are just five years of mining waste

(09:56):
from a single iron ore sight in Inner Mongolia contains
enough thorium to meet US household energy demands for more
than a thousand years. This is the Chinese Journal of
Geological Review, fully exploited. There's a place called the banyin
Obo mining complex. It could yield a million tons of thorium.

(10:17):
How much would a million tons of thorium do for
your power wise? Well, it's enough to fuel China for
sixty thousand years, so it may have been in front
of us all along.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
And how many hammers can you make out of it?

Speaker 4 (10:31):
Seven? So you can hammer in the morning, hammer in
the evening, hammer all day long.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
If there's one thing I got enjoying more than making
a dad joke that Mike doesn't get but the rest
of the news of the audience does, it's making it
twice and I'm still not getting it. And then to
have listens start texting them in to explain it, although
one listener see, it was a Marvel joke, and I

(10:57):
don't know if it was a Marvel joke or just
a Norse God joke. I mean, I get that there's
an obvious connection there, but either way, Mike accently didn't
know what was going on.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
And that was great there.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Wrap right, Let's take a look inside the goodie bag
at the Oscars.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
How good were those goodies this year?

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Back to the Oscars and wetter EFX and all that's
going on. We've got the goodie bag today. Se it's
particularly unusual goodie bag to me. Normally it's you look
at stuff and you go, oh my god, that's quite good. Anyway,
this year they claim it can be up to a
couple hundred thousand dollars of approximate value for the goodie bag.
This is for the Oscar nominees. You've got a two
hundred and forty dollars cutting board from John Boose, though

(11:39):
I've never heard of reversible design, edge grain construction and
generous thickness. Two hundred and forty dollars cup.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
What's it made out of?

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Don't know. It doesn't say no, it doesn't say rubber wood.
Let's say it's a rubber wood board just.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
For you go rubberwood over bamboo.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, probably, But two hundred and forty dollars. I mean,
you've got you're an Oscar nominee and they're giving you
a chopping ball.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
Sam's waving his hands around like.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Sam, Sam's got it's an interesting Sam's got a two
hundred and forty dollars chopping ball, but it is never
dining table. Yeah, incredible. Eye a luxury pocket squares from
Daniel Ashley, value at fifteen hundred and seventy I don't
know that's a lot of pocket squares worth fifteen hundred
and seventy dollars or just one pocket square worth a
fortune fifty two hundred dollars stay at Barcelona's five star
Cotton House Hotel. I'm sure that's very nice. Then there's

(12:25):
a twenty five thousand dollars I don't know where they
get the value from twenty five thousand dollars prize, in
which a genealogist builds your family tree back for several.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Generations until they find something interesting.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Sure, three hundred and five dollars skin care products.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Boring, there seems low compared.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
To it precisely three and a half thousand dollars virtual
wellness retreat from a three D wellness retreat. Wow, I
don't really think it's worth getting nominated for the auspice
to be frank.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I mean, Mike doesn't know why thorium is called thorium.
I don't know what a pocket square is. Wow, I
didn't when you first Shit, I really I figured it
out eventually. But who wants a bag full of pocket
squeerz and who wants anything virtual in their goodie beg?
Getting a voucher for things is not the same as

(13:17):
getting an actual goodie Did you think that you at
least have you know, a little container of bubble mixture
in there?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's what I like, mixing a goodie bag and booze.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
I will see you back here King tomorrow with more
rewrapping talk about your goodie bag. Just it's a bag
of goodies every day.

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