November 29, 2025 • 12 mins
The hugely popular Synthony Festival is going ahead at the end of March.
Synthony has taken off over the last few years – with the 2025 festival selling out and 40,000 people attending.
2026 will be the first Synthony Festival for The Black Seeds – and their front man Barnaby Weir told Francesca Rudkin that he is looking forward to the festival.
'To get an invite, to such a huge, awesome gig, which is already proven and has a huge clientele, a huge audience is really great for us.'
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be some Black Seeds to start the ana. This
is their latest single, Compassion. The band has a huge
summer coming up with many festivals and it culminates with
the hugely popular Symphony Festival at the end of March.
Sympthony has really taken off over the last few years,
the twenty twenty five festivals selling out with forty thousand
(00:32):
people attending. Twenty twenty six will be the first Symphony
Festival for the Black Seeds, and frontman Barnaby Weird joins me. Now,
how are you, Barnaby?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, good morning, Francisca. Great to be with you. I'm good. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
So this is your first time performing at symphony. Have
you have you attended one? Do you know what you're
in for?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I haven't, look, I haven't attended one. It's pretty exciting.
You know. I'm described as the best kind of covers
band in the world, but you know what, what an
amazing trajectory for symphony over the last what five years
or something like that, even internationally. So really great to
be invited and we're just stoke to be invited to
the next year's lineup.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So someone hasn't heard of symphony. They kind of take
dance anthems, don't they. They reimagine these songs with an orchestra.
Why do you think this formula has taken off? Why
it's so hugely popular?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah? Really interesting. You know, I think adding a fanny
to the symphony is such a great idea because people
love that live that live, huge orchestra. They're playing these
club classics, like not just dance music, but actually club
classics is what we're talking about here, you know. And
and so so that's got a huge kind of area
(01:45):
of music that you could that you may be aware
of what you may not be, but they're all bangers basically,
and so you know, having that huge crew on stage
with the orchestra, I think it's quite a powerful and
exciting kind of life thing to see.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
We have over the years seen a lot of artists
or bands team up with an orchestra and perform. Have
you ever done that before?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, I've been a little bit tinted of myself personally
around around the idea. I mean I'm not I mean,
playing with the ends would be amazing because they're you know,
they're like the elite of the orchestral you know talent.
But you know it does it always translate? I'm not sure?
But have people done it well in the past? Yes,
So I don't know. I mean, you know, watch the space,
(02:29):
but it's not something I'm like leaping to do. For
the Black Seeds. We're a current band. We don't need
to do that right now. We've just released a new
single and we've got new new music to make. Is
just our band, So but yeah, is it a good
idea most of the time? Definitely?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So what made you jump on board for next year's festival.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
To be honest, just to get an invite to such
a huge, awesome gig which has already proven and has
a huge you know client, our huge audience is really
great for us, and we kind of I guess we're
kind of invited because you know, we've been around for
a while, we have the appeal for for perhaps earlier
on and know you've got the exponents too, So I
(03:07):
guess they're just mixing up the lineup with some classic
bands and you're just so stoked and you know, so
pleased to be invited in the first place.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
You guys have kind of been the sound of Kiwi
summers for decades now, really haven't you? You kind of
along there.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well, I mean, yeah, that alignment with summer will take there.
It's just a beautiful thing when people are starting to
relax and be on holiday and things like that. You know,
obviously the sunshine is a positive thing for us all.
So yeah, with our music associated with that, that's a
good thing.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
But Toby, how different is it preparing for a festival
like this that it might be for another gig.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, well, it's it's massive, firstly, so that that pressure
is on. I think that as long as you just
as long as we just you know, we're organized, we
know what we're playing, and we know when we're playing obviously,
and we we're relaxed. That's that's the best preparation, just
to do what you do well. But yeah, it's a big,
big crowd, so the nerves, the nerves, but you know,
you just want to you just want to play well
(04:04):
and just do what you do well and then be
part of To be part of it is really the gift,
you know, to be part of the whole whole experience
is such a gift. So you know, we're just a
piece and the puzzle of that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, but nerves have got to be a good thing
that day. Would you get concerned if you wanted out
one day and went, I feel nothing, Let's just do
another gig.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
No, that's right, that doesn't really happen. Yeah, every gig,
small er, big, is always even doing like small solid
things by myself, you know, or you know, weddings or
small gigs. That's almost more new breaking. You don't have
the crew behind you, and you're you're out there. You've
got to be good for forty five minutes or whatever
it is, and you just got to do your best.
(04:45):
But you know, the songs do the thing. You know,
it's all about the songs. It's all about the songs
and the singing and the and the stories. Really that
that's what tells you know, that's what entertained. So you
just got to entertain and get on with it. You know.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Can you let us in on what we might expect
from the Black Seeds at Symphony or is that all hush.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Well at the moment. No, No, it's not all hush hush.
It'll be a powerful, full energized shit. I'll tell your
friendshiscat I love us powerful and energize. You know, it's
an eight piece band. We play everything. There's no samples
or loops with us. You're going to hear some familiar
songs and we're just going to be really stoked and
happy to play on that stage and such a really big,
really big line up, so you know, we'll be happy
(05:25):
to be there and we'll just be bringing our a game.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Talking about you know, we're just talking about summer and
the festival scene and things. Is it an enjoyable way
to spend your summer. Do you enjoy the sort of
summer festival scene and and touring at this time of
the year.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. You get to see different parts
of the country and different generations, I guess in different situations,
you know where events might be a food and wine festival,
or it might be a like a you know, a
three three day weekend kind of festival, camping festival. Lots
of different kind of yeah situations, And yeah, we definitely
(06:02):
enjoy it, and you know, you know that you're fully
employed for that time and and also just gives me,
you know, it gives me a lot of energy, you know,
to bring back home and to feel good about what
you're doing and you enjoy your summer with lots of
music because that's you know, it's the sharing of the
music and the entertaining of the people of the people Franchisca.
(06:24):
That's why Russell does it. That's why we do it.
You know, I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Look, we've both alluded to the fact that you guys
have been around for a while. Nineteen ninety eight you
first formed. Did you see yourself still playing summer gigs
all these years later when you began, Well, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
We didn't, actually not, not with necessarily the Black Sedge
is something that's still so strong. You know. Our team
is really strong, and the guys that are in the
band now have been in the band for many, many
years now still even though we've changed lineups, because you
would do that with a massive lineup. You can't just
have everyone to yourself the whole time, you know. I
think making new music with the guys is really important
(07:02):
to just keep us relevant to ourselves, you know, and
the friendships and the you know, the camaraderie through thick
and thin, and I guess ups and downs keeps you
strong too. But it's it's the fact that people enjoy
our music and have great memories around our music, and
to make future memories, you know, that's why we do it.
(07:24):
And so to have new music keeps the band kind
of more current rather than just just playing older songs
all the time. But I do respect the older songs
and in people's attachment, you know, to them, you know. So, yeah,
we're so lucky. It's so awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
The music industry and music in general has seen so
much change in that in this time that you know,
since since you began, have you had to change much
to survive or the way you do things?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, I guess like technology has changed heaps with music
sharing and in different formats. You know, what hasn't changed
is that humans still really want to hear stories and
riffs that make them feel good or or sad or
or happy or whatever it is. And I think that's
the key here when we're looking at kind of the
(08:11):
future of art and AI and those kind of things,
that it's really the human stories and the emotions, you know,
and the messages. And it can just be fun as well.
You can just have like a fun party track as
fine too. But that's what we're sharing here. And so
although yeah, formats have changed, technology has changed. We've got older, obviously,
(08:32):
but that's still a priority for us to like get
to express ourselves in that way and hopefully other people,
you know, acknowledge there or can be part of that too,
and that's that's where the satisfaction comes from.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You know, you've got new music coming from the Black Seeds,
but you've also released a new album this year as
a duo called Trips.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Tell me about that, all right, Oh wow, oh good
good detective work with their Francisca. Yeah, so Trips as
Andrew Christjansen has played trumpet for the Black Seeds for
a number of years, around two thousand and eight to
twenty twelve or something like that, and and then later
on we we you know, Reunited really is just music lovers,
(09:13):
and Trips is really his project that I've helped him with.
It's kind of rock and roll, it's it's kind of
a not a compilation of different genres, but a collaboration, sorry,
of different musos playing together. And so, yeah, please check
out Trips. There's some good stuff there. We even did
a cover of I'm on Fire by Bruce Prinstein. We
(09:36):
actually wrote this, We wrote the instrumental and then I
said a lot. Actually I could sing I'm on fire
over this, and so we just thought, let's do it.
You know, so you know it's collaboration with different artists
and different vocalists, and yeah, I mean you're probably one
of a few fans, so thanks very much for cheating
that out or even mentioning it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
But also you know you've got fly My Pretties on
the guy as well. They've had a new song out
this year. You've got there's lots of fingers in Pie's
part of it is that is it? It's a cool
to balance and do you do it because they all
provide a different outlet for you value to do all
the different things you're interested in.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah that's right. You know music, you don't you're not
just just into heavy metal or just into rock and
roll or justin to hip hop. You know, you usually
like a few things. You know, you're allowed a few secret,
secret you know songs that you love. Yeah, that's right,
And it's about diversifying. And I get a lot of
joy out of that collaboration and and playing other people
(10:38):
songs too, and being part of a team that's different.
So Flu My Pritties, as we had an album released
within the year called Elemental. It's really good. Check it
out if you want. And so, yeah, you just got
to keep mixing it up and and finding new ways
of expressing yourself, I think. And so you know, like
a farm writing, like a kind of a rock song
(10:59):
or a folks on it's not going to go really
with the Black Seeds delivery. So you know, you need
to invent other ways of expressing you off. And yeah,
that's fun. That's fun part of music.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You manage a lot of musicians and a lot of bands,
which I'm I'm very impressed about, and I imagine it's
quiet time consuming. I spoke to Brett McKenzie earlier in
the year and he was talking about his album and
he got a whole lot of artists together and then
realized he was spending his entire time just actually managing
musicians and getting them to where they needed to be
at the right time, in the right place.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, we've had, well, we've had managers that are really
good at their job and they look after and connect
the dots and really make it all happen. And they
you know, they have faith in you to have the
vision and then do what you mean to be doing,
which is the musical directing. I do the musical managing,
but not not the business managing, you know. But you
have to have someone that's keen to put on the
hours and have faith and sometimes work for no money
(11:51):
and sometimes work for money, you know, and because they
see the vision. So that's yeah, very lucky in that way.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But to be always good to catch up. Thank you
so much for your time this morning. Very much looking
forward to the powerful and energized performance from the Black
Seeds at Manuka Synphony Festival. It has taking place on
March the twenty first next year at Auckland's domain. You
can get tickets from synthhony dot com.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks a B from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be some Black Seeds to start the ana. This
is their latest single, Compassion. The band has a huge
summer coming up with many festivals and it culminates with
the hugely popular Symphony Festival at the end of March.
Sympthony has really taken off over the last few years,
the twenty twenty five festivals selling out with forty thousand
(00:32):
people attending. Twenty twenty six will be the first Symphony
Festival for the Black Seeds, and frontman Barnaby Weird joins me. Now,
how are you, Barnaby?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, good morning, Francisca. Great to be with you. I'm good. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
So this is your first time performing at symphony. Have
you have you attended one? Do you know what you're
in for?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I haven't, look, I haven't attended one. It's pretty exciting.
You know. I'm described as the best kind of covers
band in the world, but you know what, what an
amazing trajectory for symphony over the last what five years
or something like that, even internationally. So really great to
be invited and we're just stoke to be invited to
the next year's lineup.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So someone hasn't heard of symphony. They kind of take
dance anthems, don't they. They reimagine these songs with an orchestra.
Why do you think this formula has taken off? Why
it's so hugely popular?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yeah? Really interesting. You know, I think adding a fanny
to the symphony is such a great idea because people
love that live that live, huge orchestra. They're playing these
club classics, like not just dance music, but actually club
classics is what we're talking about here, you know. And
and so so that's got a huge kind of area
(01:45):
of music that you could that you may be aware
of what you may not be, but they're all bangers basically,
and so you know, having that huge crew on stage
with the orchestra, I think it's quite a powerful and
exciting kind of life thing to see.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
We have over the years seen a lot of artists
or bands team up with an orchestra and perform. Have
you ever done that before?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, I've been a little bit tinted of myself personally
around around the idea. I mean I'm not I mean,
playing with the ends would be amazing because they're you know,
they're like the elite of the orchestral you know talent.
But you know it does it always translate? I'm not sure?
But have people done it well in the past? Yes,
So I don't know. I mean, you know, watch the space,
(02:29):
but it's not something I'm like leaping to do. For
the Black Seeds. We're a current band. We don't need
to do that right now. We've just released a new
single and we've got new new music to make. Is
just our band, So but yeah, is it a good
idea most of the time? Definitely?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So what made you jump on board for next year's festival.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
To be honest, just to get an invite to such
a huge, awesome gig which has already proven and has
a huge you know client, our huge audience is really
great for us, and we kind of I guess we're
kind of invited because you know, we've been around for
a while, we have the appeal for for perhaps earlier
on and know you've got the exponents too, So I
(03:07):
guess they're just mixing up the lineup with some classic
bands and you're just so stoked and you know, so
pleased to be invited in the first place.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
You guys have kind of been the sound of Kiwi
summers for decades now, really haven't you? You kind of
along there.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well, I mean, yeah, that alignment with summer will take there.
It's just a beautiful thing when people are starting to
relax and be on holiday and things like that. You know,
obviously the sunshine is a positive thing for us all.
So yeah, with our music associated with that, that's a
good thing.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
But Toby, how different is it preparing for a festival
like this that it might be for another gig.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, well, it's it's massive, firstly, so that that pressure
is on. I think that as long as you just
as long as we just you know, we're organized, we
know what we're playing, and we know when we're playing obviously,
and we we're relaxed. That's that's the best preparation, just
to do what you do well. But yeah, it's a big,
big crowd, so the nerves, the nerves, but you know,
you just want to you just want to play well
(04:04):
and just do what you do well and then be
part of To be part of it is really the gift,
you know, to be part of the whole whole experience
is such a gift. So you know, we're just a
piece and the puzzle of that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, but nerves have got to be a good thing
that day. Would you get concerned if you wanted out
one day and went, I feel nothing, Let's just do
another gig.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
No, that's right, that doesn't really happen. Yeah, every gig,
small er, big, is always even doing like small solid
things by myself, you know, or you know, weddings or
small gigs. That's almost more new breaking. You don't have
the crew behind you, and you're you're out there. You've
got to be good for forty five minutes or whatever
it is, and you just got to do your best.
(04:45):
But you know, the songs do the thing. You know,
it's all about the songs. It's all about the songs
and the singing and the and the stories. Really that
that's what tells you know, that's what entertained. So you
just got to entertain and get on with it. You know.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Can you let us in on what we might expect
from the Black Seeds at Symphony or is that all hush.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Well at the moment. No, No, it's not all hush hush.
It'll be a powerful, full energized shit. I'll tell your
friendshiscat I love us powerful and energize. You know, it's
an eight piece band. We play everything. There's no samples
or loops with us. You're going to hear some familiar
songs and we're just going to be really stoked and
happy to play on that stage and such a really big,
really big line up, so you know, we'll be happy
(05:25):
to be there and we'll just be bringing our a game.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Talking about you know, we're just talking about summer and
the festival scene and things. Is it an enjoyable way
to spend your summer. Do you enjoy the sort of
summer festival scene and and touring at this time of
the year.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. You get to see different parts
of the country and different generations, I guess in different situations,
you know where events might be a food and wine festival,
or it might be a like a you know, a
three three day weekend kind of festival, camping festival. Lots
of different kind of yeah situations, And yeah, we definitely
(06:02):
enjoy it, and you know, you know that you're fully
employed for that time and and also just gives me,
you know, it gives me a lot of energy, you know,
to bring back home and to feel good about what
you're doing and you enjoy your summer with lots of
music because that's you know, it's the sharing of the
music and the entertaining of the people of the people Franchisca.
(06:24):
That's why Russell does it. That's why we do it.
You know, I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Look, we've both alluded to the fact that you guys
have been around for a while. Nineteen ninety eight you
first formed. Did you see yourself still playing summer gigs
all these years later when you began, Well, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
We didn't, actually not, not with necessarily the Black Sedge
is something that's still so strong. You know. Our team
is really strong, and the guys that are in the
band now have been in the band for many, many
years now still even though we've changed lineups, because you
would do that with a massive lineup. You can't just
have everyone to yourself the whole time, you know. I
think making new music with the guys is really important
(07:02):
to just keep us relevant to ourselves, you know, and
the friendships and the you know, the camaraderie through thick
and thin, and I guess ups and downs keeps you
strong too. But it's it's the fact that people enjoy
our music and have great memories around our music, and
to make future memories, you know, that's why we do it.
(07:24):
And so to have new music keeps the band kind
of more current rather than just just playing older songs
all the time. But I do respect the older songs
and in people's attachment, you know, to them, you know. So, yeah,
we're so lucky. It's so awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
The music industry and music in general has seen so
much change in that in this time that you know,
since since you began, have you had to change much
to survive or the way you do things?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, I guess like technology has changed heaps with music
sharing and in different formats. You know, what hasn't changed
is that humans still really want to hear stories and
riffs that make them feel good or or sad or
or happy or whatever it is. And I think that's
the key here when we're looking at kind of the
(08:11):
future of art and AI and those kind of things,
that it's really the human stories and the emotions, you know,
and the messages. And it can just be fun as well.
You can just have like a fun party track as
fine too. But that's what we're sharing here. And so
although yeah, formats have changed, technology has changed. We've got older, obviously,
(08:32):
but that's still a priority for us to like get
to express ourselves in that way and hopefully other people,
you know, acknowledge there or can be part of that too,
and that's that's where the satisfaction comes from.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You know, you've got new music coming from the Black Seeds,
but you've also released a new album this year as
a duo called Trips.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Tell me about that, all right, Oh wow, oh good
good detective work with their Francisca. Yeah, so Trips as
Andrew Christjansen has played trumpet for the Black Seeds for
a number of years, around two thousand and eight to
twenty twelve or something like that, and and then later
on we we you know, Reunited really is just music lovers,
(09:13):
and Trips is really his project that I've helped him with.
It's kind of rock and roll, it's it's kind of
a not a compilation of different genres, but a collaboration, sorry,
of different musos playing together. And so, yeah, please check
out Trips. There's some good stuff there. We even did
a cover of I'm on Fire by Bruce Prinstein. We
(09:36):
actually wrote this, We wrote the instrumental and then I
said a lot. Actually I could sing I'm on fire
over this, and so we just thought, let's do it.
You know, so you know it's collaboration with different artists
and different vocalists, and yeah, I mean you're probably one
of a few fans, so thanks very much for cheating
that out or even mentioning it.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
But also you know you've got fly My Pretties on
the guy as well. They've had a new song out
this year. You've got there's lots of fingers in Pie's
part of it is that is it? It's a cool
to balance and do you do it because they all
provide a different outlet for you value to do all
the different things you're interested in.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah that's right. You know music, you don't you're not
just just into heavy metal or just into rock and
roll or justin to hip hop. You know, you usually
like a few things. You know, you're allowed a few secret,
secret you know songs that you love. Yeah, that's right,
And it's about diversifying. And I get a lot of
joy out of that collaboration and and playing other people
(10:38):
songs too, and being part of a team that's different.
So Flu My Pritties, as we had an album released
within the year called Elemental. It's really good. Check it
out if you want. And so, yeah, you just got
to keep mixing it up and and finding new ways
of expressing yourself, I think. And so you know, like
a farm writing, like a kind of a rock song
(10:59):
or a folks on it's not going to go really
with the Black Seeds delivery. So you know, you need
to invent other ways of expressing you off. And yeah,
that's fun. That's fun part of music.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You manage a lot of musicians and a lot of bands,
which I'm I'm very impressed about, and I imagine it's
quiet time consuming. I spoke to Brett McKenzie earlier in
the year and he was talking about his album and
he got a whole lot of artists together and then
realized he was spending his entire time just actually managing
musicians and getting them to where they needed to be
at the right time, in the right place.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, we've had, well, we've had managers that are really
good at their job and they look after and connect
the dots and really make it all happen. And they
you know, they have faith in you to have the
vision and then do what you mean to be doing,
which is the musical directing. I do the musical managing,
but not not the business managing, you know. But you
have to have someone that's keen to put on the
hours and have faith and sometimes work for no money
(11:51):
and sometimes work for money, you know, and because they
see the vision. So that's yeah, very lucky in that way.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But to be always good to catch up. Thank you
so much for your time this morning. Very much looking
forward to the powerful and energized performance from the Black
Seeds at Manuka Synphony Festival. It has taking place on
March the twenty first next year at Auckland's domain. You
can get tickets from synthhony dot com.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks a B from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.