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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News talks'b.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
In nearly three decades as a comedian, Die Henwood has
pretty much done it all, ticked every box. But I
was surprised to learn he's never hosted the Best Foods
Comedy Gala and that is all about to change because
Die has been announced as the host of the twenty
twenty six gala, to be held in May next year.
Die Henwood, good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Good morning. It's a pleasure to be here. And I'm
pretty excited about this because I started out two thousand
and one would have been my first first gala, and
that was back in the day when Kiwi's didn't host it.
We had would bring in a big international right like
there was your people like Wayne Brady, who was from
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whose line is it anyway over there? And my favorite
was always Jamoen and Bill Bailey and these. So as
a Kiwi, especially as a young comic, you're so excited
because these international acts would be on. And this was
also back in the time where New Zealand had quite
a bit of cultural cringe, so when there was an
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Irish comic con, their accent would get them half the
way there and then it was extra hard as a
kiwi And it's super cool now to host it. See
how vibrant the comedy industry is, how diverse the comedy
industry is, and how kiwis are just sort of really
killing it with the overseas x as well.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So are And actually that explains it because I was
thinking to myself, and you know, I didn't want to
remind you it had been over twenty years since you,
you know, first appeared at a gala, but I was thinking,
that's crazy that in that time you haven't But that's
exactly what they did. We had to have. Yeah, it
was sort of given some sort of validation as being
a top class comedy thing because there was an international
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host and now we all know we don't. We just
do not need that.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's no, it was it was comedy and music because
I remember with New Zealand Music Month was a big
thing right here and it was, oh my gosh, radio
stations have to play a certain amount of New Zealand music.
Now that's not even thought of, It just is out there.
And it's been awesome growing up through all of that
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and seeing them and sort of through the rise of
the Internet and seeing how comedy and even promoting shows
is pivoted from oh you just do a poster run
to now there's all the dynamics around social and that
I always love. I'm someone who loves change and I've
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always loved change, so seeing how things evolve is awesome.
Yet it's so cool you have something like the Gala
that in its essence has stayed the same. It is
an intro to the Comedy Festival. You get to have
a sort of toughest plate of comics. You can go, oh,
they're they're up, malely, I'll go and see them. Oh,
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I wasn't expecting that. And that hasn't that hasn't changed
in it. It's amazing saying that the Comedy Festival is
still so vibrant. And the joy of comedy is people
want to laugh in hard times. And we've just done
a we've just done a seven days to it and
people are struggling a bit, and you know, it's just
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a time in the world where things are a bit tight.
So comedy is always a good place to fall.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
See how different is it from being one of those
tappers to hosting it, Because if you're just the tapper
you put together what a four minute routine or something.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, in a way, it's harder being the act because
four minutes you're like, Okay, I'm doing a show. I
need to sell the show, but I just need to
be funny. I've got to be funny straight from the
get go.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You know, you can't build into this, No, you can't hit,
you strive. It's three minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
If you're building into it, you're doing it wrong. And
the hard thing is because a lot of international coming
and they've done say an Edinburgh Festival or Melbourne Festival,
and so they're hit in the grounds. Polish they know
how to sell a show, they've sort of clipped it
into a bit, whereas a lot of the local acts
are building up they have just written a fresh show.
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They don't know quite how it's going to go or whatever.
So I enjoy hosting also because it's a big day
and if you're just naming it four minutes, it's so stressful,
Like I remember, just the nerves and trying not to
cite yourself out in that thing, getting so wound up
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and just trying to relax.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
And so you're quite looking forward to the fact that
you've got a whole show to drag a joke out.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
You know exactly we're going to go back to a
bit of Edmund, so.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
House can here we go?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
What is your approach to comedy Over the years, I've
had some hilarious conversations with comedians, as you'd expect, But
what surprised me was some of them get prepare their
show for the festival months out. They know what they're
going to do, They organize others take a photo for
a poster and give it a name, and still kind
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of weaks out, don't quite know what they're going to do.
Which basket do you sit?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I almost in the middle, but more to over prepare.
I mean, my dad was an actor, so I grew
up in a theater where shows are very much rehearsed
all of that, so I and I don't like to
leave anything to last minute, so I prepare it. Yep.
There's always about ten minutes of the show that I
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leave towards the end to sort of massage around. And
my main thing is in the lead up to it.
I like hanging out with funny people and laughing because
it's that thing of if I'm having fun and laughing
that's what people want. They want to have fun and laugh.
So my style of comedy is very much just I'm
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a happy guy. I've always described so, I'm just a
keyp you trying to have a good time, and that's
what I think a lot of us are.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Have you always had done that, when you've had that
ten minutes at the end just to play around? Or
does that come with experience?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
It sort of comes with experience, because now I know
I'm in a play around, but I've got an idea no,
that could weave into that, and if someone gets a
bit chatty, that could happen. And so now it's that
thing of having the experience and being comfortable with yourself
that you can handle it, because the hardest thing is
standing on stage and that something hasn't popped into your head.
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And five seconds to me feels like an hour. And
people I'll say, my wife comes to a show and
I'm like, after that, but I was struggling to know it,
and she's like, I just went seamlessly, and but in
my head it was this cavern of silence.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I don't know how you do it. I couldn't do
it even if it was completely and fully prepared, I'd
still walk out in front of an audience and just
stand there and look at them all and walk off again.
I just hate I would love to talk to you
about your year, because I'm sure it's been a bit
of a roller coaster. At the end of twenty twenty four,
you did that it's been one of your hardest years.
How is twenty twenty five? Man?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
The winter of twenty twenty five was real rough for me.
I had some four unexpected hospitalizations that were sort of
talking for anyone who doesn't know. I've been on a
five year stage four cancer journey, and I got pretty
grim in the winter there. It was sort of cancer
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adjacent things and sort of had to have a surgery
here and there. And the last three months have been
absolutely wonderful. I'm still doing chemotherapy. It's still bloody tough,
but just managed to do a seven days tour with
people who are my absolute best buddies and travel around
the country sharing jokes that the sun's been shining this
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whole This whole journey for me has really isolated each
day and like, for instance, I'm waiting for scan results
and I now actually can honestly be in the moment
of will let's a worry for another day, which has
been that has been so hard to get to and
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to get to that point where I'm like, no, the
sun's out, go for a swim with my kids after school.
That's what matters, and not worrying about this. Oh in
a day, I'm getting that result and what's going to happen,
because that the scan result always sort of changes what
the next three months looks like. And I'm feeling I'm
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feeling great, So that's all you can ask for.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
There will be so many people out there who completely
resonate with what you're saying, and even even people who
are waiting you know, may have been clear to cancer,
who are waiting for scan result. It just it, It
is so hard to get to that point. It's just there,
isn't it. Yeah, It's part of life and it's there,
and it is.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You get to that point through I suppose a lot
of trauma and realizing hey, because up until I got diagnosed,
I was always I always associated myself as a healthy person.
I'd never I'd been lucky, I hadn't dealt with the
hospitals much. And then now you know, every couple of
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weeks I'm doing chemo and stuff that has its ups
and downs, and struggling with that fact of seeing my
mates just living their life and doing their things and
I hunker down for a week. You know, it's sort
of out doing things for a week. That's been so
hard to get into the zone of right, today's a
hard day, but today's a great day. Yesterday I had
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a great day. And actually, I think so many people
could benefit from that idea of taking quiet moment at
the end of the day and just going, huh, you know,
today was a really good day, or today was really hard,
But I actually dealt with that pretty well. And I
think speaking to people and knowing myself before cancer, people
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are way too hard on themselves, like you are enough.
You are doing the best you can and this is
our only shot, So don't give yourself grief. Sit at
the end of the day and actually go no, I
could have dealt with that better, but I didn't, or
I've learned from that, or wow, today was awesome, which
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when the sun's been out like it has it certainly is.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You have made the Officer of New Zealand Order of
Merit and the King's birth Day Honors was that a
big moment for you? I mean, I know it's kind
of what you do in your family, but was that
quite special for you to just stop and think about
what you've achieved and what you've given them.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Oh, it was huge. So I over sort of my
career and stuff. I've been blessed to have won comedy
awards and that sort of thing, but I've always been
about guys, about the process, Like I've sort of always
looking at the next thing rather than celebrating the last thing.
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And also in New Zealand, to make a living in
this game, you have to be onto the next thing,
because it's not like one thing pays and then that
you sit on your laurels. But getting it after I
had done a book and a docco series on my
journey and then two of the pieces of work that
I'm most proud of, it was huge for me. And
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it actually I did sit back and go, I'm very
proud of myself. I'm proud of what my kids can
look at and go, oh, you know, Dad did a
good job there. He he was a good guy as
well as just funny, and it was massive and on
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the back of that, I got a distinguished alumni from
Victoria University, where I felt so out of my debt
because I'm there with a guy who negotiates the end
of wars. He negotiated the end of the Bosnian Serbian
War and he's been the Congo. And then it's like, oh,
I am he's sort of gone around New Zealand telling jokes.
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But also I have a kiwi thing that's easy to
underestimate myself.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And I was just going to say, I'm really thrilled
to hear you say that you're proud of what you've done,
because I know how much people have benefited from what
you've shared and the way you're approaching life and the
way you're approaching this study that you're on. So actually,
and it's we're too quick in New Zealand not to
want to actually go you know what you did good?
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I did good, And I think I'm thrilled to you
say that what you've achieved.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Completely it is something that it is easy to underplay
and it's so key. We it plays into the tall
poppy thing and don't want to stick your head up
too much. But going back to that end of the
day thing, you do need to sit back and go
actually I've done a good job there, or you know,
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I am a damn good husband, I'm a damn good father,
and it's not bad saying that. It makes you want
to sort of aspire to be better. And on this journey,
I've been contacted and I am in contact with so
many patients around New Zealand and we share our war
stories and our ups and downs and getting contacted by
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people I couldn't email. I get a few of these
of someone who said, I read your book. I've pushed
for a colonoscopy and they found cancer, but they got
rid of it early. And I wouldn't have pushed for
that colonoscopy. And it is very easy to say that
thing of you know, if it helps one person. But
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I think of my life over the last five years
and that the half a dozen, my seven surgeries and
all forty six rounds of chemo and radiation and all that,
and I go, if that person can get early, they
got rid of it, do minimal treatment and not have
to do that five years or who knows how long
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the rest of this journey's going to be, then that
is worth it.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It served its purpose.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
So no, I'm super proud of that and the fact
that I can still get out there and two or
seven days and be a part of the Best Foods
Comedy Gala and that and it is taking each day
at a time, and I put my optimism out there
because I enjoy laughter and happiness.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Die Hendwood, congratulations on scoring the gig. I can't wait
to see your hosting the gala next year and rest
in life for twenty twenty six. Thank you so much
for haming in and you can care to die at
the Best Food The Best Foods Comedy Garla and Auckland
on May first, Wellington on May second. Tickets are on
sound now and if you order before the eighteenth of December,
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you go on the drawer for a bunch of prizes,
including a signed copy of Dice.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
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