November 2, 2024 • 7 mins
It was a tight test victory for the All Blacks in this morning's test match in Twickenham.
The come-from-behind 24-22 win was sealed when English replacement George Ford missed an injury time drop goal.
Newstalk ZB rugby commentator Elliott Smith says the All Blacks will be feeling positive after the win - but they have a few worries to clear up before they get to Dublin.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, we've had some cracking, tight morning contests this weekend
and the All Blacks kept that theme going with a
thrilling comeback against England at Twickenham this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
They're looking for the best opportunity for the truck Gow
George Ford, for the truck doll.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
For the truck.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It's away, it is away. When my frother A Tim
twenty four, twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Four, oh, I felt very much the same as very
excited News Talks he'd be Rugby commentator Elliott Smith this morning.
He joins me now from Twickenham. Good morning, Elliott.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Good morning Francisca.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So I love a dramatic game. I don't mind a
messy win. But as exciting as this game was, it
was also hugely frustrating, with too many erarors and penalties,
and not only did the English put pressure on the
All Blacks, the All Blacks put pressure on themselves. Quite frankly,
it was just too much this morning, Elliott.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You've summing that up exceptionally well, Francesca. I couldn't have
said it better myself. The All Blacks one in spite
of themselves at times, and I don't mean that means spiritedly,
but I think the All Blacks could have played a
lot better. They had opportunities to play a lot better.
They had poor discipline during that game. The penalty count
at one point was eleven to two against the All Blacks.
(01:36):
It tied it up a little bit later on, but
they made a lot of errors, they were ill disciplined,
and yet somehow they won by two points. I think
the All Blacks will take that, but no, they have
to be a lot better with Ireland and France looming,
but it's a game they could have lost. So it's
really hard to sum up Francesca just how the All
Blacks should be feeling it and just what transpired over
(01:58):
that eighty minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Razer sounded very relieved at the end of the game.
What were his thoughts post game?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Elliott, Yeah, well, he said he came into the media
conference and was after asked if it was a relief
and he said, jell me to say relief, and sure
enough he did say it was a relief. But he's
also pleased, I guess to come back from eight points
down twenty two to fourteen. The game could have slipped away.
At that point Marcus Smith put England up by eight.
The All Blacks, as we discussed, were conceding penalties and
(02:27):
making errors and allowing England to take the ascendancy in
the game. But the All Blacks managed to find a
way from eight points in arears. They scored that penalty
goal from Damian mckens and then a bust remarked to
lea down the right wing flank and Mark Cleer had
already been subbed off then came back on to win it.
(02:48):
So he praised the closure I guess from the All
Blacks to come back in a game that was beginning
to slip away from them, to bil themselves back in,
get their noses in front and hold their composure at
the end as England mister penalty goal mister drop goal.
It could have gone either way and the All Blacks
managed just to get their nose in front at the
full time whistle.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You're right, there were some good aspects of the game
and the bench worked well and it was good to
see the All Blacks scoring some points in the second half.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, this is the tricky thing to the All Blacks
is that their benches perform well and maybe for the
starters didn't necessarily perform as well as they would have liked.
I thought Patrick Tweop a lot who had a storming
game coming on. He was willing to carry plenty across
the line, broke the advantage line as he did. So
the scrum worked Bester. When the reserves came on the park,
(03:38):
Cam broygater Foot added something from half back and then
Damian McKenzie slotting a crucial penal goal as well to
pull the All Blacks to within five at that point
in the game. So they can be really pleased with
the bench, and that's what you want out of the
bench and the games and the balance all year. Behind
those are the game changes that you want to throw on.
And it's been a tricky aspect for the All Blacks
(03:59):
this year. They haven't always got it right. They've had
the back half of games they've drifted out of. This
time they close the game with the wet sale and
head to London with their spirits up. It could have
been so different and they could have been leaving London
to flate it tomorrow morning. But as it happens, you know,
a wind cures a lot of things, but they do
have a few worries as they head to Dublin. Not
(04:21):
only that discipline the errors, but some injuries as well
and potentially disciplined re issues too.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Okay, so how's Cody Taylor.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, an ideal that we're still waiting on a full
picture from the All Blacks, but went off with an
HIA in the first five minutes. Now it will depend,
is my understanding on the nature of the HIA. But
the fact he didn't even go down the tunnel would
suggest that he is out for next week. Get such
a short turnaround. I don't think he's got time that
he can be clear. There are some aspects of the
(04:52):
HIA that if you complete it later on this evening,
it sort of resets the clock and you can prove
yourself fit. But Scott Barrett, so Scott Robertson was saying
in the media conference, he wasn't overly optimistic of having
Cody Taylor. Bow and Barrett also went off with an
HIA to both ye look to be limping with a
leg injury, and then Anton Lennart Brown went off with
(05:14):
a yellow slash red cards that we haven't heard the
outcome of incidentally, at least at the stadium, that could
have him in hot water at the judiciary. So there's
plenty for the All Blacks to chew over as they
prepared to leave London head to Dublin.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And how good has Wallace tit? I think I've got
a new faith.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Exceptional, really exceptional in all of how he's slotted into
this All Blacks environment and doing what has been asked
of him and more. I don't think anyone could have
seen the rise that he has taken this year from
the opportunity got briefly against Fiji earlier in the year
in South Africa. He has made every post winner since
and cannot now be left out of this all Blacks environment.
(05:56):
All Blacks twenty three and the best team. What is
the TD is in the run on team? Know that
you know mad at the match first? Was it to
twickle him? Today? He was exceptional. Set up the first
try to Mark Tala. Every time he gets the ball
in hand it seems like he snaps the advantage line
in half and gets over it and could have had
another try set up as well for two bo Vi
just the stumble before halftime they score that the All
(06:18):
Blacks and the game is very very different again. So
I thought he was exceptional today and he is turning
into some special player for this All Blacks team.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Ireland next, how do you think that one's going to go?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Elliott Well of Ireland as it stands for the best
team in the world ranked number one. We know the
hallacious battle they had last year at De France. It's
or the All Blacks not Ireland out. They've continued though.
Ireland is still a very very good team. They've had
a retirement here or there, but continue to be a
dominant force in rugby and going to Aviva Stadium in
(06:52):
Dublin has become one of the toughest asks for any
team world rugby to try and do six Nations South Africa,
All Blacks, whoever it might be, It is a really
tough place to play. I will step it up a
little from England and the All Blacks going to have
to lift again when they get to Dublin on a
six day turnaround as well, so the acid will come
(07:12):
on the All Blacks again next week. Dublin is a
ferocious place to play if you're the visiting team. The
All Blacks are going to have to find another level
to go to from what they delivered tonight here at Wickingham.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Thank you so much, Elliott Smith for your time. Appreciate it,
always a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
For more from the Sunday Session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to news talks that'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, we've had some cracking, tight morning contests this weekend
and the All Blacks kept that theme going with a
thrilling comeback against England at Twickenham this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
They're looking for the best opportunity for the truck Gow
George Ford, for the truck doll.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
For the truck.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It's away, it is away. When my frother A Tim
twenty four, twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Four, oh, I felt very much the same as very
excited News Talks he'd be Rugby commentator Elliott Smith this morning.
He joins me now from Twickenham. Good morning, Elliott.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Good morning Francisca.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So I love a dramatic game. I don't mind a
messy win. But as exciting as this game was, it
was also hugely frustrating, with too many erarors and penalties,
and not only did the English put pressure on the
All Blacks, the All Blacks put pressure on themselves. Quite frankly,
it was just too much this morning, Elliott.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
You've summing that up exceptionally well, Francesca. I couldn't have
said it better myself. The All Blacks one in spite
of themselves at times, and I don't mean that means spiritedly,
but I think the All Blacks could have played a
lot better. They had opportunities to play a lot better.
They had poor discipline during that game. The penalty count
at one point was eleven to two against the All Blacks.
(01:36):
It tied it up a little bit later on, but
they made a lot of errors, they were ill disciplined,
and yet somehow they won by two points. I think
the All Blacks will take that, but no, they have
to be a lot better with Ireland and France looming,
but it's a game they could have lost. So it's
really hard to sum up Francesca just how the All
Blacks should be feeling it and just what transpired over
(01:58):
that eighty minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Razer sounded very relieved at the end of the game.
What were his thoughts post game?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Elliott, Yeah, well, he said he came into the media
conference and was after asked if it was a relief
and he said, jell me to say relief, and sure
enough he did say it was a relief. But he's
also pleased, I guess to come back from eight points
down twenty two to fourteen. The game could have slipped away.
At that point Marcus Smith put England up by eight.
The All Blacks, as we discussed, were conceding penalties and
(02:27):
making errors and allowing England to take the ascendancy in
the game. But the All Blacks managed to find a
way from eight points in arears. They scored that penalty
goal from Damian mckens and then a bust remarked to
lea down the right wing flank and Mark Cleer had
already been subbed off then came back on to win it.
(02:48):
So he praised the closure I guess from the All
Blacks to come back in a game that was beginning
to slip away from them, to bil themselves back in,
get their noses in front and hold their composure at
the end as England mister penalty goal mister drop goal.
It could have gone either way and the All Blacks
managed just to get their nose in front at the
full time whistle.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You're right, there were some good aspects of the game
and the bench worked well and it was good to
see the All Blacks scoring some points in the second half.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, this is the tricky thing to the All Blacks
is that their benches perform well and maybe for the
starters didn't necessarily perform as well as they would have liked.
I thought Patrick Tweop a lot who had a storming
game coming on. He was willing to carry plenty across
the line, broke the advantage line as he did. So
the scrum worked Bester. When the reserves came on the park,
(03:38):
Cam broygater Foot added something from half back and then
Damian McKenzie slotting a crucial penal goal as well to
pull the All Blacks to within five at that point
in the game. So they can be really pleased with
the bench, and that's what you want out of the
bench and the games and the balance all year. Behind
those are the game changes that you want to throw on.
And it's been a tricky aspect for the All Blacks
(03:59):
this year. They haven't always got it right. They've had
the back half of games they've drifted out of. This
time they close the game with the wet sale and
head to London with their spirits up. It could have
been so different and they could have been leaving London
to flate it tomorrow morning. But as it happens, you know,
a wind cures a lot of things, but they do
have a few worries as they head to Dublin. Not
(04:21):
only that discipline the errors, but some injuries as well
and potentially disciplined re issues too.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Okay, so how's Cody Taylor.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, an ideal that we're still waiting on a full
picture from the All Blacks, but went off with an
HIA in the first five minutes. Now it will depend,
is my understanding on the nature of the HIA. But
the fact he didn't even go down the tunnel would
suggest that he is out for next week. Get such
a short turnaround. I don't think he's got time that
he can be clear. There are some aspects of the
(04:52):
HIA that if you complete it later on this evening,
it sort of resets the clock and you can prove
yourself fit. But Scott Barrett, so Scott Robertson was saying
in the media conference, he wasn't overly optimistic of having
Cody Taylor. Bow and Barrett also went off with an
HIA to both ye look to be limping with a
leg injury, and then Anton Lennart Brown went off with
(05:14):
a yellow slash red cards that we haven't heard the
outcome of incidentally, at least at the stadium, that could
have him in hot water at the judiciary. So there's
plenty for the All Blacks to chew over as they
prepared to leave London head to Dublin.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And how good has Wallace tit? I think I've got
a new faith.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Exceptional, really exceptional in all of how he's slotted into
this All Blacks environment and doing what has been asked
of him and more. I don't think anyone could have
seen the rise that he has taken this year from
the opportunity got briefly against Fiji earlier in the year
in South Africa. He has made every post winner since
and cannot now be left out of this all Blacks environment.
(05:56):
All Blacks twenty three and the best team. What is
the TD is in the run on team? Know that
you know mad at the match first? Was it to
twickle him? Today? He was exceptional. Set up the first
try to Mark Tala. Every time he gets the ball
in hand it seems like he snaps the advantage line
in half and gets over it and could have had
another try set up as well for two bo Vi
just the stumble before halftime they score that the All
(06:18):
Blacks and the game is very very different again. So
I thought he was exceptional today and he is turning
into some special player for this All Blacks team.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Ireland next, how do you think that one's going to go?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Elliott Well of Ireland as it stands for the best
team in the world ranked number one. We know the
hallacious battle they had last year at De France. It's
or the All Blacks not Ireland out. They've continued though.
Ireland is still a very very good team. They've had
a retirement here or there, but continue to be a
dominant force in rugby and going to Aviva Stadium in
(06:52):
Dublin has become one of the toughest asks for any
team world rugby to try and do six Nations South Africa,
All Blacks, whoever it might be, It is a really
tough place to play. I will step it up a
little from England and the All Blacks going to have
to lift again when they get to Dublin on a
six day turnaround as well, so the acid will come
(07:12):
on the All Blacks again next week. Dublin is a
ferocious place to play if you're the visiting team. The
All Blacks are going to have to find another level
to go to from what they delivered tonight here at Wickingham.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Thank you so much, Elliott Smith for your time. Appreciate it,
always a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
For more from the Sunday Session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to news talks that'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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