June 15, 2024 • 14 mins
One of New Zealand's biggest musicians, Hollie Smith, has been experimenting with other types of art.
Smith has been dabbling in painting, and is showcasing her entry into the world of visual art with her new exhibition ‘It’s Not Music’ at artist FLOX’s gallery in Auckland.
She hasn't completely abandoned her music, as she plans to embark on a small venue tour of New Zealand later this month.
She says the music scene has slowed down since Covid - and she needed to expand to a new creative outlet.
"The industry's still really struggling...I recently moved back to my house in Tauranga, I'm just on my own down here and just had a lot of time on my hands, I just needed a new creative outlet."
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News talks'b Right Keevy.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Musician Holly Smith is well known for her music, but
it turns out she's a woman with hidden talents. Turns
out Holly is a bit of a painter and need
to diversify from music. She currently has an art exhibition
open in Auckland called It's Not Music. The music hasn't
been checked aside, though. She's also heading out on a
small venue tour of New Zealand later this month. For
(00:34):
a bit of a catch up, Holly Smith joins me.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Now, hey, Holly, good morning. How are you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm really good. Have you always painted?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, I've always been out to stick. Yeah, I did
a lot of I mean I did at school and
then sort of they've always painted since then, but you know,
sort of depending on where I'm living and how much
space they have and all that kind of thing. So
sometimes not for a few years and then other times
quite a bit. So yeah, just along timeline as it happens.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
What have you mostly painted for this exhibition?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Mainly female form. Always really enjoyed painting woman. Yes, so
mainly kind of nude, slightly different perspectives, sort of slightly
different viewpoints and body shapes that might be sort of
your more classical kind of female form type paintings, but yeah,
all different shapes and sizes.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Basically are they you have you? Are they self portraits?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
There's a few of me? Yeah, I took a few
of me, and I've got photos of several friends as well,
who I may get naked, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
What do you love about a nude?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Just the shapes and you know, I just love the
different sort of perfections and imperfections of you know, different
curves and in shapes and things. And you know there's
my own imperfections of hands and feet, which I'm still
learning how to do.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, I can have met Yeah, hands and feet are tracking.
I'm terrified of a white piece of paper. So you
know the fact that you know you've got something down
on papers amazing. How has a bit of painting at
home turned into an exhibition?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well it was kind of sort of the other way
around really. I mean music's been super quiet. You know,
the industry is still really struggling sort of well post
COVID instead of with all of those weather events that
happened that kind of first summer back into it, and
I recently moved back to my house in Totong, so
I'm just on my own down here and just had
a lot of time on my hands, and I really
(02:35):
just needed another sort of creative outlet to focus and
have a bit of a routine during the day. So
I talked to Haley King, who's an artist known as Flocks.
She has a gallery in Auckland when I'm showing it,
and I showed her some things and she was like, hey,
why don't we do an exhibition? And then I sort
of was like, Okay, let's do it sooner rather than later.
And then, you know, I've got I work well with deadlines,
(02:58):
so you know, when we sort of established that, and
I knew I just had to paint every day, so
it was more of an exercise of discipline and routine
more than actually wanting to show my stuff. That was
I just needed something, a finish line to motivate me
to be creative every day.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And now it is an exhibition and it's opened. How's
it going.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's odd. I've had some really lovely feedback. You know,
some of my friends and family have seen some of
my work, before, but I've never painted on the scale before,
so there's about eighteen pieces there. So yeah, it's really great.
I mean, the reception I heard from the opening evening
was really lovely. It's some really lovely feedback in a
(03:41):
few sales, and so that was a surprise. I mean,
I was talking to Hailey at one point about pricing
and stuff, and she's like, Okay, well, when you sell
something like, oh, I don't think I'm sound, it's not
right what she's like, Well, but it's what we're hoping
for when we're going up. Okay. I mean, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Far, so good, fantastic. I love the fact that the
exhibition is simply called It's Not Music.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, well, there was a few other sort of more
philosophical names sort of throwing around, and then yeah, I
think me and Hailey had a bit of a wine
and a discussion about it, and let's just keep it sleeper,
simple and everyone knows what's happening and it's not music. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, And how good was the opening when you turned
up and you suddenly realize each I don't have to sing,
I don't have to perform it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It was like the funnest together. Of course, I loved before,
but it was really nice. It was sort of it
felt like being at one of my gigs and I
just didn't actually have to do anything. I just got
to hang out with lots of really lovely people. So yeah,
it was great.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So is art a lucrative business, Holly.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I don't think anything in the arts in New Zealand
is particularly lucrative these days. Well, I don't know. Yeah,
it's it's definitely you know, I wouldn't be following up
art in that regard. It's big jumping from the frying
pan into the fire.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I think I saw that you s to mate, you
made about one hundred and eighty dollars in global streaming
sales last year.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Is that correct going through the statements, Yeah, I mean
obviously I have a label, so you know that's I
don't really get any anything because it's all on a
recoupable However, yeah, going through my statements, it looked like
I was getting about, yeah, forty fifty quarter. But then
I don't have large streaming numbers either, so you know
(05:33):
that obviously can vary quite significantly with different artists, But
in New Zealand, you know, most most people would be
on the lower lower level of streaming numbers apart from
the people that you would expect.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, it's interesting what you mentioned before. You know that
you're after COVID and everybody's live stop and you couldn't tour,
and you couldn't attend festivals, and then of course we
had the weather events. There's been an ongoing impact from that,
hasn't there. I mean, has the music industry and the
sort of the touring industry for local artists, has it
(06:06):
fully recovered yet?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Absolutely not. No. No, isn't a pretty diet and pretty
dire shape at them, isn't it? What's that? What's those
weather events coming back in after COVID? You know, like
that was most of our summer's canceled, which is obviously
normally eighty percent of our income, but just a lot
of the smaller promoters who do it for the love
of it and kind of you know, just to break
(06:30):
even and to you know, sort of have events like
that on and and other sort of smaller venues, and
you know, just sort of across the board, there was
a lot of people who just couldn't continue to to
to do it. So and you know, obviously with the
global industry being impacted. We have a lot more internationals,
you know, including New Zealand on their tours, which just
(06:53):
means that you know, obviously, people you know, save a
lot of money to go to those bigger shows and
that's kind of their entertainment budget for however many months,
and so yeah, it's it's a really strategic, strategic time
and you know, obviously trying to diversify. I'm doing a
lot more mentorrying and teaching and things which I enjoy doing,
you know, And but yeah, I mean I'm picking up
(07:16):
other work when I can, just to trying to make
ends meet. Really, it's yeah, it's financially not not a
great time to be in the art sector at this point.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And so Holly that that's the kind of experience that
most musicians are having in the industry.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't talked to anyone who's having
a wonderful time of it. But you know, you've obviously
got artists who you know, work on a slightly different
scales than most. So yeah, I don't I don't know
of anyone who's who's not sort of struggling with things
at the minute.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
How can people support local artists? What is the best
way to to financially try and support them. Is it
about streaming? Is it about buying vinyl? What? What is
it these days? Is it about going and seeing them
when they do when they do head out into it?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, I mean I just encourage, you know, if you
do enjoying artists and they're coming through your areas and
you know, just try and try and get along and support.
If you've got you know, extra means, go go find
their website and see if there's any merchandise that you
can support. I mean, streaming obviously is great in the
way people are generally, you know, listening to music these days,
(08:25):
but you know, those numbers are so so very small
that you know they're not they're not really going to
make a huge difference unless about eight other million people
join you. So yeah, just just you know, if you
have a love for New Zealand music, those artists you enjoy,
then just just see what they've got going on and
if there's any way that you can help them directly.
(08:46):
A lot of people are doing sort of fund me
type things for albums or you know whatever else, So
there's a few different ways you can look into how
you can support locally.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, Now, I can't think of anything better than coming
to a small, intimate venue and hearing you perform. And
that's what you were doing. You're heading out on tour
with the Bones to A two. What happened to Bones
to A one to one?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So basically, much like I was talking about the art exhibition,
really I sort of just needed to get a bit
more disciplined and have a bit more routine on a
daily basis, because you know, normally I'd be away every
weekend and prepping every week for different things and working
on Edmund and all those kind of things. So at
the moment, so last year when I got back here,
I just sort of I'm going to put a tour
(09:33):
on and I'm just going to play entirely new songs,
and so I have to write all the songs before then.
So I took all new songs on the road and
just complete essentially the bones of so just you know,
brand new songs that haven't been developed or produced or anything,
you know, very very basic outlines of things, some not
(09:55):
even finished, some lyrics not finished, you know, so just
really quite personal and intimate and talking through what the
songs were about and what sort of inspired them, and
you know, so it gets it got quite you know,
sort of quite personal a lot of things. So basically
I'm just doing that again. A few more songs to
add and then that.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Was really beneficial. Did you find that as a songwriter
that the sort of the response that you got from
the audience and things that kind of informed you as
to where things were going right when something might need
to I mean, to be going out and doing that again.
Do you do you just love that intimacy or actually
is it also really helpful for you as an artist?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Sort of across the board, It's sort of a few
different things. It's really nice to be in an environment
where because you know, like the minimum amount of people
is like fifty people. I think the maximum things like
two hundred or something, so super super small, you know,
like almost to the point where for me it's like
just sort of sitting in my lounge room and having
a bunch of people over listening to some stuff, which
obviously I never do, but it's that kind of vibe,
(10:55):
you know, So I'm sort of talking and we're talking
to each other, and you know, like there's almost conversations
happening at the same time, and it's just really nice
getting to know an audience and a more intimate setting
as well, and just getting really nice feedback on the
songs and sort of thing, Yeah, what works and what
connects with people and you know what doesn't.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
But we throw that, We throw that whole idea about
We talk about the importancy of being authentic, don't we
in this decade? You know, we go on and on
about it. But actually, how nice is it for a
fan to have that kind of honest, genuine connection with
an artist that they love. That's quite hard to kind
(11:40):
of achieve these days, especially when you know, as you say,
you might be going to see your favorite band in
a massive stadium and you know, like that's actually quite
a treat for a fan.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, well, I definitely haven't had any negative reviews regarding
the shows the first time round. You know, all of
them were sold out and just had people really really
appreciative of opening up about particular thing and that people
could relate to, and then you know, sort of finding
it quite therapeutic to understand that people are going through
(12:13):
the same things and all that kind of sort of
commonattery and when you actually share stories and realize how
many people are going through the same things. So yeah,
I had some really lovely, you know, real personal commentary
back from it all as well, and you know, I
need to get on the road. I need to keep
working for a number of different reasons, obviously if I
actually been one of them, but just to stay you know,
(12:36):
like just vocally. Over the last few years, I found
it really difficult because I haven't had enough shows in
my voices just not where it should be at all.
You know, even practicing at home it's never going to
be the same as performing, so to keep your chops
up and yeah, to try and get through these sort
of vocal issues I've been having. I just sort of
need to keep active and keep my voice exercising because otherwise, Yeah,
(12:58):
it's it's been quite difficult in that regard as well,
and being a you know, sort of touring musician my
whole life, to all of a sudden not really be
singing much, it's made quite an impact. So it's also
it's also that that I'm focusing on this tour as well.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I did chuckle at the fact that it starts at
seven point thirty so that you can be home and
in bed. You're a woman after my own heart. I
appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Well. The thing is, when you're touring for a vocalist,
it's really not rock and roll. I mean, that's what's
really hard when you're touring with the Banes stuff, because
everyone's having fun and like talking and hanging out and laughing,
and you're just going, I can't talk because I'm gott
to rest my voice for the shows. And so it's
actually quite nice to sort of being able to work
and have the show go how I'm heaven any night.
(13:45):
It's just sort of, you know, as many shows as
I'm doing in a short amount of time as well,
I just really need to make sure I'm looking after
myself physically and vocally. So it's incredibly unrock and roll.
It's very unrotten roll. So it's generally the most soberish,
slash unpartying tour one. Generally, I just get home and
(14:08):
go to bed and that's great.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I love it. Hey, Holly, thank you so much for
your time today and best of luck with both the
exhibition and the tour.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Enjoy. Thank you so much, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That was artist Holly Smith. Her It's Not Music exhibition
is on now until June twenty seventh at Eyes on
Fire Gallery in Auckland. The Bones tour Io opens in
Fideanga on June twenty eighth. For more information and dates,
you can head to Hollysmith dot co dot nz.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
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You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News talks'b Right Keevy.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Musician Holly Smith is well known for her music, but
it turns out she's a woman with hidden talents. Turns
out Holly is a bit of a painter and need
to diversify from music. She currently has an art exhibition
open in Auckland called It's Not Music. The music hasn't
been checked aside, though. She's also heading out on a
small venue tour of New Zealand later this month. For
(00:34):
a bit of a catch up, Holly Smith joins me.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Now, hey, Holly, good morning. How are you doing.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm really good. Have you always painted?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, I've always been out to stick. Yeah, I did
a lot of I mean I did at school and
then sort of they've always painted since then, but you know,
sort of depending on where I'm living and how much
space they have and all that kind of thing. So
sometimes not for a few years and then other times
quite a bit. So yeah, just along timeline as it happens.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
What have you mostly painted for this exhibition?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Mainly female form. Always really enjoyed painting woman. Yes, so
mainly kind of nude, slightly different perspectives, sort of slightly
different viewpoints and body shapes that might be sort of
your more classical kind of female form type paintings, but yeah,
all different shapes and sizes.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Basically are they you have you? Are they self portraits?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
There's a few of me? Yeah, I took a few
of me, and I've got photos of several friends as well,
who I may get naked, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
What do you love about a nude?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Just the shapes and you know, I just love the
different sort of perfections and imperfections of you know, different
curves and in shapes and things. And you know there's
my own imperfections of hands and feet, which I'm still
learning how to do.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, I can have met Yeah, hands and feet are tracking.
I'm terrified of a white piece of paper. So you
know the fact that you know you've got something down
on papers amazing. How has a bit of painting at
home turned into an exhibition?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well it was kind of sort of the other way
around really. I mean music's been super quiet. You know,
the industry is still really struggling sort of well post
COVID instead of with all of those weather events that
happened that kind of first summer back into it, and
I recently moved back to my house in Totong, so
I'm just on my own down here and just had
a lot of time on my hands, and I really
(02:35):
just needed another sort of creative outlet to focus and
have a bit of a routine during the day. So
I talked to Haley King, who's an artist known as Flocks.
She has a gallery in Auckland when I'm showing it,
and I showed her some things and she was like, hey,
why don't we do an exhibition? And then I sort
of was like, Okay, let's do it sooner rather than later.
And then, you know, I've got I work well with deadlines,
(02:58):
so you know, when we sort of established that, and
I knew I just had to paint every day, so
it was more of an exercise of discipline and routine
more than actually wanting to show my stuff. That was
I just needed something, a finish line to motivate me
to be creative every day.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And now it is an exhibition and it's opened. How's
it going.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's odd. I've had some really lovely feedback. You know,
some of my friends and family have seen some of
my work, before, but I've never painted on the scale before,
so there's about eighteen pieces there. So yeah, it's really great.
I mean, the reception I heard from the opening evening
was really lovely. It's some really lovely feedback in a
(03:41):
few sales, and so that was a surprise. I mean,
I was talking to Hailey at one point about pricing
and stuff, and she's like, Okay, well, when you sell
something like, oh, I don't think I'm sound, it's not
right what she's like, Well, but it's what we're hoping
for when we're going up. Okay. I mean, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Far, so good, fantastic. I love the fact that the
exhibition is simply called It's Not Music.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, well, there was a few other sort of more
philosophical names sort of throwing around, and then yeah, I
think me and Hailey had a bit of a wine
and a discussion about it, and let's just keep it sleeper,
simple and everyone knows what's happening and it's not music. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, And how good was the opening when you turned
up and you suddenly realize each I don't have to sing,
I don't have to perform it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It was like the funnest together. Of course, I loved before,
but it was really nice. It was sort of it
felt like being at one of my gigs and I
just didn't actually have to do anything. I just got
to hang out with lots of really lovely people. So yeah,
it was great.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So is art a lucrative business, Holly.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I don't think anything in the arts in New Zealand
is particularly lucrative these days. Well, I don't know. Yeah,
it's it's definitely you know, I wouldn't be following up
art in that regard. It's big jumping from the frying
pan into the fire.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I think I saw that you s to mate, you
made about one hundred and eighty dollars in global streaming
sales last year.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Is that correct going through the statements, Yeah, I mean
obviously I have a label, so you know that's I
don't really get any anything because it's all on a
recoupable However, yeah, going through my statements, it looked like
I was getting about, yeah, forty fifty quarter. But then
I don't have large streaming numbers either, so you know
(05:33):
that obviously can vary quite significantly with different artists, But
in New Zealand, you know, most most people would be
on the lower lower level of streaming numbers apart from
the people that you would expect.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, it's interesting what you mentioned before. You know that
you're after COVID and everybody's live stop and you couldn't tour,
and you couldn't attend festivals, and then of course we
had the weather events. There's been an ongoing impact from that,
hasn't there. I mean, has the music industry and the
sort of the touring industry for local artists, has it
(06:06):
fully recovered yet?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Absolutely not. No. No, isn't a pretty diet and pretty
dire shape at them, isn't it? What's that? What's those
weather events coming back in after COVID? You know, like
that was most of our summer's canceled, which is obviously
normally eighty percent of our income, but just a lot
of the smaller promoters who do it for the love
of it and kind of you know, just to break
(06:30):
even and to you know, sort of have events like
that on and and other sort of smaller venues, and
you know, just sort of across the board, there was
a lot of people who just couldn't continue to to
to do it. So and you know, obviously with the
global industry being impacted. We have a lot more internationals,
you know, including New Zealand on their tours, which just
(06:53):
means that you know, obviously, people you know, save a
lot of money to go to those bigger shows and
that's kind of their entertainment budget for however many months,
and so yeah, it's it's a really strategic, strategic time
and you know, obviously trying to diversify. I'm doing a
lot more mentorrying and teaching and things which I enjoy doing,
you know, And but yeah, I mean I'm picking up
(07:16):
other work when I can, just to trying to make
ends meet. Really, it's yeah, it's financially not not a
great time to be in the art sector at this point.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And so Holly that that's the kind of experience that
most musicians are having in the industry.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I haven't talked to anyone who's having
a wonderful time of it. But you know, you've obviously
got artists who you know, work on a slightly different
scales than most. So yeah, I don't I don't know
of anyone who's who's not sort of struggling with things
at the minute.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
How can people support local artists? What is the best
way to to financially try and support them. Is it
about streaming? Is it about buying vinyl? What? What is
it these days? Is it about going and seeing them
when they do when they do head out into it?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, I mean I just encourage, you know, if you
do enjoying artists and they're coming through your areas and
you know, just try and try and get along and support.
If you've got you know, extra means, go go find
their website and see if there's any merchandise that you
can support. I mean, streaming obviously is great in the
way people are generally, you know, listening to music these days,
(08:25):
but you know, those numbers are so so very small
that you know they're not they're not really going to
make a huge difference unless about eight other million people
join you. So yeah, just just you know, if you
have a love for New Zealand music, those artists you enjoy,
then just just see what they've got going on and
if there's any way that you can help them directly.
(08:46):
A lot of people are doing sort of fund me
type things for albums or you know whatever else, So
there's a few different ways you can look into how
you can support locally.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, Now, I can't think of anything better than coming
to a small, intimate venue and hearing you perform. And
that's what you were doing. You're heading out on tour
with the Bones to A two. What happened to Bones
to A one to one?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
So basically, much like I was talking about the art exhibition,
really I sort of just needed to get a bit
more disciplined and have a bit more routine on a
daily basis, because you know, normally I'd be away every
weekend and prepping every week for different things and working
on Edmund and all those kind of things. So at
the moment, so last year when I got back here,
I just sort of I'm going to put a tour
(09:33):
on and I'm just going to play entirely new songs,
and so I have to write all the songs before then.
So I took all new songs on the road and
just complete essentially the bones of so just you know,
brand new songs that haven't been developed or produced or anything,
you know, very very basic outlines of things, some not
(09:55):
even finished, some lyrics not finished, you know, so just
really quite personal and intimate and talking through what the
songs were about and what sort of inspired them, and
you know, so it gets it got quite you know,
sort of quite personal a lot of things. So basically
I'm just doing that again. A few more songs to
add and then that.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Was really beneficial. Did you find that as a songwriter
that the sort of the response that you got from
the audience and things that kind of informed you as
to where things were going right when something might need
to I mean, to be going out and doing that again.
Do you do you just love that intimacy or actually
is it also really helpful for you as an artist?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Sort of across the board, It's sort of a few
different things. It's really nice to be in an environment
where because you know, like the minimum amount of people
is like fifty people. I think the maximum things like
two hundred or something, so super super small, you know,
like almost to the point where for me it's like
just sort of sitting in my lounge room and having
a bunch of people over listening to some stuff, which
obviously I never do, but it's that kind of vibe,
(10:55):
you know, So I'm sort of talking and we're talking
to each other, and you know, like there's almost conversations
happening at the same time, and it's just really nice
getting to know an audience and a more intimate setting
as well, and just getting really nice feedback on the
songs and sort of thing, Yeah, what works and what
connects with people and you know what doesn't.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
But we throw that, We throw that whole idea about
We talk about the importancy of being authentic, don't we
in this decade? You know, we go on and on
about it. But actually, how nice is it for a
fan to have that kind of honest, genuine connection with
an artist that they love. That's quite hard to kind
(11:40):
of achieve these days, especially when you know, as you say,
you might be going to see your favorite band in
a massive stadium and you know, like that's actually quite
a treat for a fan.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Yeah, well, I definitely haven't had any negative reviews regarding
the shows the first time round. You know, all of
them were sold out and just had people really really
appreciative of opening up about particular thing and that people
could relate to, and then you know, sort of finding
it quite therapeutic to understand that people are going through
(12:13):
the same things and all that kind of sort of
commonattery and when you actually share stories and realize how
many people are going through the same things. So yeah,
I had some really lovely, you know, real personal commentary
back from it all as well, and you know, I
need to get on the road. I need to keep
working for a number of different reasons, obviously if I
actually been one of them, but just to stay you know,
(12:36):
like just vocally. Over the last few years, I found
it really difficult because I haven't had enough shows in
my voices just not where it should be at all.
You know, even practicing at home it's never going to
be the same as performing, so to keep your chops
up and yeah, to try and get through these sort
of vocal issues I've been having. I just sort of
need to keep active and keep my voice exercising because otherwise, Yeah,
(12:58):
it's it's been quite difficult in that regard as well,
and being a you know, sort of touring musician my
whole life, to all of a sudden not really be
singing much, it's made quite an impact. So it's also
it's also that that I'm focusing on this tour as well.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I did chuckle at the fact that it starts at
seven point thirty so that you can be home and
in bed. You're a woman after my own heart. I
appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Well. The thing is, when you're touring for a vocalist,
it's really not rock and roll. I mean, that's what's
really hard when you're touring with the Banes stuff, because
everyone's having fun and like talking and hanging out and laughing,
and you're just going, I can't talk because I'm gott
to rest my voice for the shows. And so it's
actually quite nice to sort of being able to work
and have the show go how I'm heaven any night.
(13:45):
It's just sort of, you know, as many shows as
I'm doing in a short amount of time as well,
I just really need to make sure I'm looking after
myself physically and vocally. So it's incredibly unrock and roll.
It's very unrotten roll. So it's generally the most soberish,
slash unpartying tour one. Generally, I just get home and
(14:08):
go to bed and that's great.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I love it. Hey, Holly, thank you so much for
your time today and best of luck with both the
exhibition and the tour.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Enjoy. Thank you so much, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
That was artist Holly Smith. Her It's Not Music exhibition
is on now until June twenty seventh at Eyes on
Fire Gallery in Auckland. The Bones tour Io opens in
Fideanga on June twenty eighth. For more information and dates,
you can head to Hollysmith dot co dot nz.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks A B from nine am Sunday,
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