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October 26, 2024 15 mins

British comedian, actor and writer Jack Whitehall has confirmed that he and his father will stop over in New Zealand as part of their latest tour.

Jack and Michael Whitehall have been exploring the world for years as part of their Netflix series Jack Whitehall: Travels With My Father - and Kiwi fans can catch them in January 2025.

The pair have also joined forces for another Netflix series about Jack's own fatherhood journey and experience becoming a dad.

"I've never thought Travels With My Father was over - we did stop doing it, but we all had such fun. I still think - you never know, it might come back. But with these live shows we're doing, it's come full circle."

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talks EDB.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
British comedian, actor and TV personnelity Jack Whitehall and his
father Michael have traveled all over the world through their
show Travels with My Father. We've witnessed them many hilarious adventures.
Well now they're heading down under to Little Old New
Zealand for their live tour in January. The duo have
also joined forces again for a new Netflix series documenting

(00:33):
Jack's journey to becoming a dad. To tell us all
about it, I'm delighted to be joined by Jack and
Michael Whitehall. Good morning, Thank you so.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Much for being with us, Thanks for having us on.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Jack, you are a year into the wonderful life up
ending journey of parenthood. Elsie's just turned one. How's fatherhood going.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, it's going good. Every day is a learning day
and she's.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Like growing up so quickly. But it's been an absolute
whirlwind and amazing. Although last night she was in the
bed and it was like she been possessed by Bruce Lee.
I was up all night and yeah, you learn very quickly,
as apparent that you can never rest on your laurels.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's yeah, it's a.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Lot, Michael. How is Jack really going well?

Speaker 5 (01:26):
When Chack was one, he was an absolute nightmare And
the problem with that was that it didn't get any better.
I thought, you know, when he gets to two or three,
you know, we all have broken.

Speaker 6 (01:39):
The back a bit. But now he went on. I mean,
I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Think actually, to be really honest with you, he's quite
got there yet, but he's certainly moving away work in progress.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
You did have some concerns for Jack before Elsie arrived.
You impreased with his parenting skills.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
Yes, I think.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
I think he's picking up quite a lot of good tips.
His mother's very helpful in that respect because Hillary used
to work as a duela when she was younger, and
so she knows all about babies. So she's on call
from Jack at any time, day and night. So I

(02:26):
have quite not unhappy, but quite restless nights because my
wife is getting out of bed all night and phoning
Jack to give him advice on what to do with
a baby fantasist.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, I'm not making calls to my mother in the
middle of the night, so it must be someone else
that she's on the phone.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
Too.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
But that's quite good praise there, Jack from Michael about
your parenting.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, that's about as much praise as I'm likely to
get from Michael.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
That's what praise sounds like when it comes from his mouth.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
It would be fair to say that you were sort
of healthily petrified of fatherhood. Has it been as as
bad as you thought it would be?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
No, but it is as overwhelming as people warned me.
I definitely found, although there was also a lot of
parents that kind of change their tune. I found in
the lead up to it, they're all like, Oh, this
is going to be so amazing and it's the best
thing you'll ever do, and you know it's going to
completely change your life. And then you have the baby
and you see them like six months later.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
And they're like, ah, I got you.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
It's a lot, isn't it. Don't worry? It gets better,
and like, where were you before with this? And then
the other psychopaths that I like, and there's already been this,
When are you going to have another?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I'm like, that is not something I want to hear
right now.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
The thought of that.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Is I often wonder why people learnt as honest about
things beforehand. And maybe it's because it's it's just not
a it's not something that's sort of over and done
with quickly. Hints. Why start sort of terrifying people before
you then you know, become a life parents.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
I suppose yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
And they also, you know, like parents can't wait to
show you pictures of babies when they're like really cute
and behaving well and all like dressed up nicely. They
never show you the like the reality of it, and
the pictures of them red faced and screaming and covered
in vomit. And you don't actually see the real side
of what parenting is and what babies are like. You're

(04:31):
definitely shielded from that.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
And I think too, you do get a little blinded
when you have your own kids. I mean, we thought,
especially our first born, we thought he was absolutely adorable,
and you go, they can look at the photos now,
it really wasn't reeliesome. Do you see any of Michael
coming out in your parenting.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I'm gonna say any of Michael coming out in Elsie
because the reality is when she we first give you know,
I said, you give birth. Roxy did most of the
work in that department. But when Roxy to Elsie. A
lot of people were saying that she looked like Michael,
which was not what she wanted to hear when she
just carried this shold for nine months, No beautiful baby
was released into the world, and that was the review.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
She just looked too certainly like eighty four year old.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah, grandfather, No, I don't think she does work remotely
like she.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Had a similar temper to me too.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, you turned your Fatherhood Journey into the Netflix show
Fatherhood with My Father. The series started before Elsie arrived,
and you mentioned on the show that Jack the Led
was on his way out. Has he disappeared in the
last year or has he been forced out or is
he just a little bit still there?

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Well, do you know what I always thought, it was like, oh, yeah,
Jack the lad and like that sort of slightly feckless,
you know, like rascal energy that I had. I figured
that that would be something that I would begrudgingly let go.
But the realities, you were just too exhausted to pay

(06:06):
by that anymore to go out or to like get
drunk and get up to hijinks and do all the
things that you used to do before you were a parent.
So yeah, it's not for grudging, it's just yeah, yeah,
no will to do it.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
You're famously called Michael daddy, and we see this in
the TV show a lot. But I've heard that you're
policing it somewhat since having Elsie.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, it's not great.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Be calling your father's daddy.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
I do try and stop myself from doing it, but
every now and again it sort of slips out.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
On the first episode of Travels with My Father, the series,
which we did, I think did we do five. On
the first one, we met in the foyer of a
hotel in Thailand a famous actor called Steven Steven Sagal.

(07:05):
I didn't know who he was. I had no idea.
And Jack said, oh, there's Stephen sig And we went
over and and I said hello, and hello mister mister.
And I've genuinely had no idea who he was. And
he had sort of minders with him and everything, and
we talked for a little bit, and then Jack came

(07:25):
over and said, Daddy, I think we've got to get
on with the filming. And Stephen Segal said to Jack,
you call your father daddy and gave him.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
A sort of death step. He was noted. And it
is so weird. Did you call your father daddy?

Speaker 5 (07:42):
And I thought, coming from Stephen Sigal weird married.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
So many minders.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
That's something we've experienced that twice in our lives. Stephen
Sigar had all these that bodyguards and minders around him.
The other person was Arnold Schwartz, and you had this
massive entourage of like bodyguards and security and You're like,
these are meant to be like action man. They all
know and had to hang combat like they're the last
people that need security. I did the Graham Norton show

(08:13):
them he had literally like ten bodyguards, and Judy Dench,
who's what like eighty nine, had no one.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Because Michael, it has been a while since you've done
Seasons Travels with my Father. Was it good to get
back to making a show together, even though it was
talking about fatherhood?

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Yeah, it was great, And I've never thought that Travels
with my Father was over really. I mean, we did
stop doing it, but we all had such fun. Still
think that you know, you never know it might come
back again.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
But well, the strange thing as well is that obviously
with these live shows that we're doing now, it's come
full circle because we are the first time we ever
worked together was on stage. It was years ago at
the Edinburgh Festival and we did this like chat show
together and it was me and Michael on stage and
that was the origin of the whole like journey was
basically me having done loads of jokes at Michael's expense

(09:15):
on stage, felt like I had completely exhausted that avenue.
And then my producer was like, why do you just
get him up on stage and do something with him?
So we did two nights at the Edin Refestoral and
it was only ever meant to be two nights, but
there was like someone from the BBC in the audience
and they were like, oh, we'd love to do this
on TV. And then Pandora's box was opened, and then
you know, five seasons of Travels later and all of

(09:37):
these other things that we've collaborated on. It's been an
amazing journey. But it's kind of strange now that we've
wound up back on stage where we started and you know,
doing what we did all of those years ago.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
So Michael, are you looking forward to the live shows?

Speaker 6 (09:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
What can we expect?

Speaker 5 (09:54):
Just got a well, exactly one. I'm not asking me
that question myself. What can we expect because there's a
certain amount of improvisation in this show. It's not a
kind of heavy scripted you know, first half forty five minutes,
second half forty five minutes. It's it's a much more

(10:18):
free flowing show than that. So I'm just hoping that
people are like it. They seem to be like they
like booking for it, but whether they'll like it, I mean,
we can't guarantee.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, so you really sold it, you really sold it.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
You've like I would be buying a ticket to this
what I mean talk about like an under cell.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
No, No, I've said the ticket sales are amazing, right,
so you know, hurry up and get buying your ticket.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
But I can't, and you'll be bitterly disappointed because he
hasn't got a clue what he's doing on the night.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
Because I'm not a professional actor.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
I'm like Jack, No, just a Chad Old agent, And
I will do my.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Next subject that the whole ed libbing and sort of
being unpredictable, is that the way you normally work or
will you actually be on stage with quite a structured
kind of plan as to how the evening's going to unfold?

Speaker 6 (11:16):
Yeahe will Well.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
I try to keep it quite structured, and there is
always a framework, and there's always a route through it
that I have in my head, but unfortunately that route
is not in Michael's head, so it always deviates. And
there's always stories that I'm that are plucked out of
thin air. And you know, Michael's got eighty four years
worth of like anecdotes, A it's a it's a war

(11:39):
chest of stories, so you never quite know what's going
to come out. But that makes the evenings feel so
alive with possibility, and yeah, sort of it's exciting.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
I've got some great Winston Churchill material and yeah, that
tends me war in nineteen forty, it's more of a
it's all going a bit fun, but really looking forward
to it.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Michael, I've seen the tour trailers and you're concerned that
your humor might be a little bit too sophisticated for us.
Do you want to talk me through that a little bit?

Speaker 6 (12:15):
Not remotely. I think it's completely the opposite.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
My material is can be slightly sweary. Going to Australia
and New Zealand, we've got to be very careful about
being sweary. So I'm going to be on my best behavior,
being charming and polite and not saying anything rude about Australians,

(12:40):
New Zealanders or anywhere else where we go. So I'm
I'm very much under the thumb of Saint Jack White.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
This is going out in New Zealand. Oh sorry, it
st New Zealand. All of the disparaging remarks you made
about lowbrow audiences about Australia.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Oh I didn't realize that. Yeah, this is New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
This is Zealand.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
So yeah, I wouldn't worry about too much about the
potty mouth. We're all not some of us aren't hugely
well behaved here, but you're allowed to be disparaging about
Kiwi's in Australia and then about Australians and New Zealand.
So you've just got to know where you are, that's all.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, A good note of knowing where I am, because
that's the problem. But I hopefully no before I start
where I am, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
When I'm on stage, But there's a lot of walking
into venues and forgetting what we went in there in
the first place. It's that kind of show.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
There's going to be a few Joe Biden moments. We
just have to accept that, Michael.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
I also know that your question with a Jack was
actually very well known here I can I can assure
you he is. He's very popular. He may lead bodyguards.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, maybe I'll borrow some of Stephen's.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, I believe Hillary is coming to which is lovely.
The whole family coming. Are you making it a family
trip down under?

Speaker 5 (14:16):
There is a very important part of the whole thing.
If it wasn't for her, he probably wouldn't be getting
on stage in the evenings. She's right there, and indeed
we'll be making quite a few appearances during the shows,
unscripted obviously.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
But yeah, she takes takes over.

Speaker 5 (14:39):
She doesn't she she can if she's let loose, she
can take over the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
We are merely passengers.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
It is a wonderful family affair and we're very much
looking forward to seeing you when you get down here.
Thank you so much for your time today. Jack and
Michael would be in New Zealand for their live show
in January. Tickets are on sound now. You can also
catch Fatherhood with My Father on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
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