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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We first saw Keewy acting star Jay Ryan as a
nineteen year old playing Jack Scully on Neighbors. He's gone
on to appear in many local shows Go Girls, Jane
Champion's Top of the Lake Creamery, or films like Muru.
But these days Jay is making an impact overseas, picking
up international recognition for roles of Beauty and the Beast
and the film It Chapter two. Jay's new film brings
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him back to New Zealand. It's a psychological thriller. It's
called The Ridge.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Cassie's dead. She fell off a class and she's dead.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm on the other side of the world and I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Know what to do. It was an accident that happens here.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It just doesn't make sense to me. My sister wasphone
dad at the bottom of the hill that she could
have claimed in her sleep. So you're questioning whether she fell,
no questioning Poe and why she fell. Jay Ryan joins
me in the studio. Good morning, good morning, so lovely
to meet you. I'm very excited to meet you because
I feel like every time I flick on the tally
at the moment you're in a show, whether it's Scrublands
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or No Escape or of course there was Creamery. I
feel like you're all over the place.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I am.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
I've been very fortunate to you know, go to different
parts of the world and film and now the world's
much smaller, you know, as we're just discussing before, you
can be anywhere. Now you can live in a small
part of New Zealand and still you know, have your
foot in the door for Hollywood. So yeah, I've been
really lucky. Australia has been good to me, the UK,
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America when there's no tariffs, they'll let me in.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
But yeah, it's been wonderful.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
But it looks like I'm working all the time, but
it's still as an actor's life, you know, there's still
a lot of downtime and a lot of nail biting
thinking when the next job is going to come.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
So even though it looks like you've shot three shows
in one year, you might have only shot one in
one year. But then all of a sudden they're all
released at the same time, all.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Released at the same time. Yeah, just kind of happens.
If I get one show a year, I'm happy, and
one show in one film that's perfect, and then I
can have a good life here as well.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I've only seen two episodes of this new series, The
Roache so far, and I have no idea what to
think of your character. And I think, yeah, this is
something I think that you're really good at. It happens
quite a few times when my watch shows that you're
in I don't know whether you're a complete psycho, were
just a normal, sort of complex person. How would you describe.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
You in Well, he is he's kind of in the
gray area between those things. I think he's trying to
figure out who exactly he is still in his early forties.
But he also is a bit of a chameleon. He
plays to his audience, and in his audience he has
the small town, the rural people, the farmers, environmentalists who
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he kind of is leading the pack. He's sort of
the only heir to a bigger state which was sort
of purchased by his Scottish parents some years ago. So yeah,
he's a bit of a leader in town. But he
has many different masks and once Mia Beaton, who is
the Scottish sister of Ewan's fiance enters New Zealand for
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the wedding. She begins to uncover that she's got the
grit to sort of figure out who he is.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Do you like that in a character? Characters that leave
you guessing?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Yeah, I mean they're really hard to play because you're
constantly I mean I am anyway, I sort of think
about the edit, which I shouldn't be as the actor.
It's got nothing to do with me, but I do
think about I wonder how they will cut this scene
because I don't want to give too much away here
or here. I want to give away, you know, the truth.
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So for me, it's like a puzzle piece that I
get to be part of. It's more of a collaboration
when the character is hiding many things.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
This is a New Zealand and Scottish co production. It's
going to be screened here on Sky and on BBC
Scotland and BBC two. You mentioned before that you have
had quite a bit of work in the UK. But
will this be sort of, you know, off, maybe provide
more opportunities in that neck of the woods.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Possibly, I mean hopefully It's always been like the know
In fact, you know, the UK is the hardest to
break into. Okay, swear the real work happens, I guess.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
But I've been lucky, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I did Neighbors many years ago, so that kind of
gave me a bit of a you know, a show
in there, even though it was soap, but it's beloved
by the Bretts, you know. And then I've had little bits,
even did a panto in the UK some some time back.
So I've been lucky to have little pieces. And then
scrub Lands, which you mentioned before, which was a co
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production that was on the BBC. So now they keep
coming back.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Oh, they're quite familiar with you. Now. Interesting you mentioned Neighbors.
Do you get sentimental about shows? I mean, obviously that
was at the beginning of your career. I think you
were nineteen and things, and that's finally come to winning.
Do you get a bit sentimental? It's that the series
that that show was coming to end. Were you actually
quite impressed it last as long as it did.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I am impressed, especially once Prestige TV came in, you know,
with HBO and and the like, because soap oproa was
kind of getting pushed back. But there's a familiar kind
of love for it that audiences have, I guess, but.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, it's coming to an end. You know.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I'm really proud that Shortland Street it's still hanging on
because a lot of the other international shows are dropping off.
But yeah, it was sad to hear that it was
no longer because it still has a big audience in
the UK and it's such a great training ground for
young artists.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It's really interesting that you because you what did you give?
You said, notice something to do neighbors. You turn things
down to do Nabors Arrangers, right, Yeah, So that's interesting
because that could have made you big in the US
at that point. And the do you think were you
thinking strategically like that when you're that young one?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I was, Yeah, I was thinking strategically. And I had
a lot of advisors at the time as well, and
they were great, and they sort of said, you know,
Power Rangers may push you in a direction for your
teen years, but maybe not a longer career.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
But you know, for me, it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Was just any opportunity to get on screen and sign
a contract and say yeah I.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Got a job was worthy.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
And I remember I did have the contract for Power
Rangers and I was so kind of you know eagerly
wanted to sign it, but yeah, all the advice was
to go to neighbors, and it was good advice.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
That's really interesting. Has that strategy remained with you? If
I look at your career, I imagine that you've been quite
strategic throughout mostly.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah. Mostly, sometimes.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You just kind of got to take what is available
and on offer. But it's often been pretty good. And
even when I've thought, oh, no, this is going to
be a dud, it hasn't been so much that case,
and it's given me many different facets. And now I'm
lucky because I get asked to do comedy dramas. Really yeah,
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I haven't been pigeonholed. And you know, now I'm in
my early forties, so I think I'm going to be Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
You made it. Are you able to pick and choose now?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
But I still have a family to support, so, you know,
the industry has become really tight at the moment and
things have dropped off. So I just feel grateful every
time I get a job. Basically, and with the looming
AI threat that we have upon us, especially within you know,
the acting world, now I'm just like I'll do pretty
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much anything because AI can too, So if I get
the opportunity, I will do it within reason, of course,
But there is that kind of thing in the back
of my head.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It feels unfair. Right, You've put so much, You've put
all this hard work into your career. You are at
this point I think, I think you're at a peak
of your career. I mean, some incredible performances over the
last decade or so with Muru and things like that,
and then all of a sudden something comes along that
kind of you know, puts you back to almost square one,
saying yeah, I'll do what, I'll do whatever I can.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's just I don't know how
much time we've got, probably years and years and years,
and it won't be doomsday. But to me, that's always
a worry, you know, even like SAG after the equity
in the US for actors and artists, I can tell
they're a bit worried too, you know, after the strikes.
And now they're sort of promoting vertical dramas, which is
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micro dramas, which is because we all watch our phones now,
you know, we can handle thirty seconds of a story.
So that's the new thing in Hollywood is filling the gap,
and it's sort of low budget drama and it's made
very quickly and it's very simple storytelling. So you know,
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there's many new things happening, but we just got to
kind of pivot and adapt.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
And I imagine why. I imagine that's why these kind
of collaborations are really good for New Zealand, that we
see this sort of UK New Zealand collaboration and look,
they have been happening for a while, but it just
helps us. It enables us to create good.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Drama, it really does, and bringing everyone together and it
makes sense, you know, because the world's become so small
in terms of accessing entertainment. So you know, with the
joint forces of the BBC and Sky and Neon, they're
going to drop you know, on the same day, so
October twenty first, the UK can see it and New
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Zealand can see it at the same time, which is great,
especially for me as the artist trying to promote it,
and because everything goes out to everyone globally and saying, well,
you guys get to.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Watch it next year or so.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah, so we're those are positive things that are happening
that bring us all together at the same time.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
You mentioned your family before, and I know that you've
got a twin daughter and things. How does this kind
of you're back here in New Zealand, based back here
in New Zealand after being in Canada for quite a
while and things, How does this kind of job? You know,
how do you manage the family and traveling and work
and things?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Well, I mean jobs locally here in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Work a treat because I can be a normal person,
leave home.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
In the morning and go home in the evening. So
it works great.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
That was part of the reason why we came home,
because we were in Canada for fifteen years on and off,
and the facts. I've always wanted to be a full
time actor in New Zealand, you know, go to work,
working on beautiful locations and go home. So yeah, that
was a real draw card for the ridge for me
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and my family. They love it when I can come
home at the end of the day. Yeah, because my
daughter has really been a trooper. She has traveled all
over the world with me and even up to the
Arctic in Canada on a show called North of North
on Netflix, which is shot in the Arctic, so she's
been up there she's spent a week with that one.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
That was delightful. That was kind of really beautiful.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah, and made by Inuit creators, so really authentic about
what it's like to live up there, which is a
true experience.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So yeah, she got to come up and.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I was like, oh, this is going to be a
disaster because it's minus thirty outside and I'm getting it
to be an extra in the back of this two
day shoot of the end of the Arctic tundra. But
she was a trooper, so she loved it, and yeah,
that's a good life.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
For all of us.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Oh, it's amazing. Okay, so what haven't you done that
you'd love to do.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
More New Zealand film.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Yeah, I'm just always very impressed with what we create here,
but it's just very few and far between, so the
opportunities are, you know, harder to get back here. But yeah,
New Zealand Film, we when we had it right, we
had it so well and it would be great to
see a bit more output in that department.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Over about thirty years of talking about New Zealand Film,
I've done it a very unscientific survey and it generally
takes the New Zealand Film makers seven years to make
a film, so you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Seven years at least of grind and sweat and going
through different commissions and funding rounds.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It's yeah, it's tough as the creator.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
But we are very lucky that we have in New
Zealand Film Commission New Zealand on are because in places
like you know, the States and many other countries, it's
just not possible.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's all private.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Jo Ryan, thank you so much for popping in Love
the Ridge. I cannot wait to see, thank you, just
how this character turns out. Very much appreciate you popping in.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Thanks Francesca.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
He's definitely dodgy Ewan, but I am interested to see
how that all pans out. The Ridge is on sky
Open this Tuesday, with all episodes available to stream on Neon.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
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