August 24, 2024 • 15 mins
Kiwi acting veteran Madeleine Sami's career is running hotter than ever.
The second season of her local comedy series, Double Parked, has just started airing on Three - and she's due to head to Darwin to start filming the latest season of her Logie-nominated series Deadloch.
Sami says she enjoys taking advantage of all these new opportunities.
"The pandemic was really good for that - sitting back and having a bit of time out to be like: How do I want to lead my life... and it taught me how to narrow things down."
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News TALKSB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Madeline Sami is comedy royalty in New Zealand. Diversatile actress, director,
presenter and writer. She is crazy busy at the moment,
She's in hot demand and in a great run of
career form. Last weekend she was up for Best Actress
at the Logis for Deadlock and now her homegrown comedy
Double Parked is back. Madeleine is both director and one
(00:34):
of the lead actresses. Season two launched on three this week,
and Madeleine is here in the studio with me. Good morning, Hello, Kyotra.
Double Parked is out. Now you're in the thick of
promotion for that. You're heading back to OZ to film
season two of Deadlock. We've had to move this interview
by day because you've been working here in New Zealanders
while picking up some more work. I did read that
(00:56):
you were the kind of person who likes to have
five projects on the go, and we've seen that that
is the case.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's like in our industry.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
So you start, when you start out, you're so desperate
for work. You're so grateful for any work you get
because it's you know, it's a tough industry to be
and there's a lot of competition, and so I feel
like it's kind of a mentality from back when I
was like eighteen and starting out in the industry, I
was like, must take work because you never know when
the next job will come. So, yeah, I probably am
(01:27):
a bit of a workerholic. I also do, definitely probably
have undiagnosed ADHD. I also do just like working, and
I think when you get good opportunities, you got to
take them.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean you'll say,
notice something you don't want to do?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh, definitely definitely. I mean that's something I've learned the
older I've got. In fact, I think like the pandemic
was really good for that sort of like sitting back
and having a bit of time out to be like,
how do I want to lead my life? And why
do I want to feel so tired all the time
and not necessarily doing the thing I love, you know,
and sort of taught me a bit to narrow things down.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So how did that change? Were you just more discerning
about the project chose?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I think so yeah, I think I was just like, oh, look,
I don't just have to wear myself out and do
everything I can. I can pick the things that I
love more. And yeah, it's and for me, it's like,
you know, a variety. I love variety, and I love
you know, I love doing a bit of directing and
acting and writing. Having those it's also survival because like,
sometimes one of those things is all right up and
(02:29):
the other things are going going good guns.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And you know, that was exactly what I was going
to say, you know, the acting, directing, writing, presenting, it's
it's do you kind of go through seasons of each
or can they often be sort of going at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I mean I think often they're going at the same time.
Often I'm in a year. I mean some years I
do more acting than directing. I think last year I
probably did more directing than acting. And it's just nice
to have the it's just nice to kind of.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Have the variety.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Really, I think that I love doing both of those things. Obviously,
acting is the first thing I still doing, so it's
always going to be my one true love. But then
it's really fun to be creative in those other spaces
as well.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Do you like directing yourself? Do you like acting and directing?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It's very hectic. Yeah, it's very hectic to try and
have your brain in two spaces at once and kind
of be because the director has to kind of be
the center for every other crew member, cast member on
the set for all their questions. And then when you're
also trying to think of a performance for yourself, you're like, oh, wait,
(03:37):
what do I want to do in the scene. How
do I want to act in the scene? You know,
like it's quite a lot, and I definitely feel exhausted
after doing that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Where's your priority at the moment? Are you in an
acting phase a directing phase? I mean, where would you
like to sort of as things progress or are you
very open to just carrying on taking whatever opportunities come
pretty open?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I think it just sort of depends on the project.
I think sometimes, like with acting, your really front and
center of something, and the kind of energy is quite
different from from directing. Like directing sort of feels like
more behind the scenes. Obviously more problem solving, which in
itself can be quite exhausting, but sometimes it's less exhausting
(04:17):
than actually being on camera yourself, which you know, when
you have to kind of delve into yourself emotionally to
create a character or you know, portray an emotion like
that itself can be so exhausting. So I think I
like the flipping between because sometimes it's nice just to
sit behind a camera in your own clothes and you know,
say cut well just.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
As you say, just think about one thing on that
particular job. Now, am I right? Double Park Season two?
It's released this week? It is such a unique, fun concept.
But am I right that you were actually always going
to direct, that you weren't going to act in it,
and then you've ended up in one of the starting roles. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I was asked to direct, and then it was like
do you want to act? And I was sort of
not sure about it, and I think I was on
another job at the time, so I hadn't really considered
it the acting of it. And then I finally got
my hand on a script before we were going into auditions,
and I sort of was like, I couldn't believe that
(05:13):
Chris had written this part. It felt like he had
written me or a part for me at least. And
Antonio weirdly now looking back as well, but has he
ever denied that has he ever said you actually Girls Night. No, absolutely,
It's like no, I just wrote the characters and then
it just felt like and I was like, well, I
have to play the character. It just feels so close
to me. And also, you know this obviously representation in
(05:37):
diversity is so much better these days, but it's still
real to be able to make a show about a
queer couple and kind of I think maybe at that point,
Nat was the first queer character I had played on screen,
or I played a bisexual character in The Breaker Rappers,
but like, so it was you know, in a career
(06:00):
of over twenty years, it's like, not a lot of
queer characters I've gotten to play, But in the last
few years, you know, it's obviously getting better. But yeah,
I sort of had to take the opportunity. Really as well, it's.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Such a fabulous show. You know, if you look at
the end of season one, it ended with this hilarious
episode where the two of you are giving birth and things.
You come back in into season two and actually the
first p is you know, and it was end of
season one. It was funny but moving as well. You
come back in and we're straight into full drama, you know,
(06:34):
And so I just love that there's all this room
there while there's this brilliant comedy and there's amazing cast
and some hilarious cameos, Go Montgomery giving you a epidural
and things brilliant condigs. There is so much room there
for it to be more than just one thing, which
I love.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, and I think that's what Chris has really got
his finger on, you know, Like he's such a funny guy,
and he's known as being such a funny comedian, but
he's just got a very brilliant mind, and he's got
a really great kind of take on something that can
be you know, he can make something really funny and
(07:09):
moving as well. And you know, this show is very
heartfelt and it's made with a lot of love, and
it's written with a lot of love, and I think
that's what sort of comes across in the final product.
But yeah, this season, the stakes are a lot higher
because there's two new beings in this flat full of
chaotic people, and so yeah, there's a lot. It's a lot.
(07:32):
It's just heavier because it's it's harder. It's hard.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
You've been involved in another one of my favorite shows
from the last few years the Ousie show Deadlock, which
is just so wonderfully bold and it's humor and so
much fun. You're heading back to OZ now to start
filming season two. Am I right in saying once again?
You started out as a writer on that show and
then ended up starring in this theme here is I
(07:58):
don't know what the theme on the door.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
And then it's quite funny because I'm forty four and
I'm like, you know, this career has been sort of all,
you know, like a career of an actor, sort of
all over the show. And I sort of diversified a
few years ago when I started getting into writing as well,
to kind of tell the stories I wanted to tell.
And you know, like I said before, I'm like, I'm
just grateful for the work. And I'd known the Kates
(08:22):
for a few years. They asked me to direct a
a web series that they were doing, and we'd always
just kind of kept in touch, and then the opportunity
to write came along. I was like, I have to
work with these women. They're like too amazing, too funny,
too clever, too silly, And so I started writing on
the show, but it was through lockdowns and pandemic, and
so we were sort of in virtual writers' rooms. I
(08:43):
was in Auckland in Lockdown and they were in Melbourne
and Lockdown and started writing on the show. And then yeah,
it just it just I got asked to audition and
I messaged one of the Kates and said as as
a prank. I thought it was a prank, but ended
up working on the show.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
There you go. Yeah, and the first one mostly sat
in Tasmania, and the second one you're off to Darwin,
which is apparently an amazing city, but you know, one
of quite extreme temperatures and large amount of crocodiles. A
large amount of crocodiles. Yeah, but you've had your crocodile
safety briefing.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I've been doing a lot of my own pre pre
production crocodile research. I've been watching a lot of Steve Irwin,
which is fun. Actually, it's nice to throw back to
watch with Steve viewin. But yeah, no, there's like one
hundred thousand crocks or something. They've grown all the crocs back.
It's hot, it's sweaty. I'm not sure I'm prepared from
this New Zealand winter to head into that, but I
(09:41):
am a half Fiji in Indian, so I probably should
be able to handle it a little bit. It's in
my DNA.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Surely, here we go. You know, we're talking about two shows,
Double Parked and Deadlock, and both we see quite refreshing
perspectives on characters that we don't normally see on TV.
And you kind of alluded to this a little bit before.
Do you love what TV is kind of throwing our
way now throwing audiences?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I think it's just I mean, it's it's kind of
about time. But also, you know what's been lovely to
see is is I think for a long time TV
was just quite sanitized, was quite mono. You know, it
was a certain group of people that we saw all
the time, and a certain age group of people, and
(10:27):
it's just what passed as television for such a long time,
and for you know, like in my twenties, you know,
I'd always be like, how come I can't get on
without actually stating the obvious, you know, people that looked
like me weren't being cast. And then you know, through
time and probably like I would say, even in the
last like fifteen years, you know, it shows I feel
(10:49):
like show like Orange is the New Black, where it
was just like women of all colors and races and
sizes and sexualities and genders, and you know, like it
was just I feel like there was just this kind
of explosion of diversity, and I think, you know, there've
been all these massive movements that have contray tributed to
the need to kind of share and projict more of
(11:12):
what society looks like. And so I feel I feel
like it was time, and it just it's crazy to
be like in my forties and and getting all this work.
It feels like when I was in my twenties, women
and actors and their forties were put out to pasture,
you know, women especially, So.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You're just entering your prime now injuring my.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Prime, did lock on Prime?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
There we go, Yeah, Hey, you're working across the New
Zealand and Astrata quite a bit at the moment. How
are we doing in comparison with our local content?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I mean, I don't know, it's a pretty I would
say it's a pretty skill. I mean it's a very
topsy tivy time for the industry in general, media TV
in the world, I think, not even just New Zealand. Like,
I feel like I feel like there's this little bubble
post pandemic, where you know, everyone was out of the
bubble and making stuff, and now there's been this obviously,
(12:04):
like you know, economic kind of contraction across all all
kind of across the world, and all industries and the
our industries really felt that as well. So there's been
a lot of you know, a lot of great shows
that have been cut and and so I feel very
(12:26):
lucky that we're getting to do that. I get to
do a second season of these shows, and obviously there's
an audience for them, and that's great. And in terms
of Australia and New Zealand, like I don't know, I
feel like I'm always really proud of how much New
Zealand has been a head of the game in terms
of like champion championing diversity and our you know and
(12:48):
indigenous culture and out within our sort of arts and media,
and you know, it's always a sort of start contrast
when I go to somewhere like Australia and you've realized
how how sort of behind in some ways they are
culturally in terms of like where we're at with our
race relations and how that affects the flow and affect
(13:09):
of that into TV and to what gets made and
all that sort of stuff. So I always do feel
like a bit you know, kind of up myself when
I come back to New Zealand and go, you know,
like we are representing people and we're doing it better
than a lot of places, and we're telling stories from
you know, I just think about Kevin and Co who
(13:30):
I make double part to it. You know, it's a
queer story about you know, two women who have babies
together and then they've got raised by refugees, which is
a show I directed with Paxacity who you know, it's
about a refugee family. And then you know you've got
all these kind of like people championing diverse voices. And
I think we've we've got a history that if you
(13:51):
go back to like the Top Twins Willie t you know,
there's always been no matter what era we've been in
or government, we've had New Zealanders love each other. I think,
and I think that we're not afraid to kind of
just be ourselves. And I know I think I do
feel really proud. I do think we do it better. Well,
(14:12):
sorry Australia.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Wells said, Hey, look I wish you all the best
saying that.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Did Locke is a very diverse show, and I think
that's another thing that people have really responded to us,
just absolutely, you know, it's one of the ones that
sort of stands out.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, but hey, look all the best for the next
four months. You're and when will you get to see
will your daughter join you at all?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I'm not going to be indwn the whole time, moving
around a bit, so I'll probably get her over when
she's a bit closer, because Darwin's basically like Bali, So
I'm like, it's so far away, she won't be able
to handle that flight. But if i'm I'll get her
over when it's a bit closs. Also, she has to
go to school, so she does. She must go to school.
She can't come out and have fun with me and crocodiles.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Just occasionally maybe, just pretty sure every time. I'm Adelan Sammy,
thank you so much for your time. Thank you, and
you can catch Madeline and Double Parked. It is on
three now and screening every Thursday on three.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Madeline Sami is comedy royalty in New Zealand. Diversatile actress, director,
presenter and writer. She is crazy busy at the moment,
She's in hot demand and in a great run of
career form. Last weekend she was up for Best Actress
at the Logis for Deadlock and now her homegrown comedy
Double Parked is back. Madeleine is both director and one
(00:34):
of the lead actresses. Season two launched on three this week,
and Madeleine is here in the studio with me. Good morning, Hello, Kyotra.
Double Parked is out. Now you're in the thick of
promotion for that. You're heading back to OZ to film
season two of Deadlock. We've had to move this interview
by day because you've been working here in New Zealanders
while picking up some more work. I did read that
(00:56):
you were the kind of person who likes to have
five projects on the go, and we've seen that that
is the case.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's like in our industry.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
So you start, when you start out, you're so desperate
for work. You're so grateful for any work you get
because it's you know, it's a tough industry to be
and there's a lot of competition, and so I feel
like it's kind of a mentality from back when I
was like eighteen and starting out in the industry, I
was like, must take work because you never know when
the next job will come. So, yeah, I probably am
(01:27):
a bit of a workerholic. I also do, definitely probably
have undiagnosed ADHD. I also do just like working, and
I think when you get good opportunities, you got to
take them.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean you'll say,
notice something you don't want to do?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Oh, definitely definitely. I mean that's something I've learned the
older I've got. In fact, I think like the pandemic
was really good for that sort of like sitting back
and having a bit of time out to be like,
how do I want to lead my life? And why
do I want to feel so tired all the time
and not necessarily doing the thing I love, you know,
and sort of taught me a bit to narrow things down.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So how did that change? Were you just more discerning
about the project chose?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I think so yeah, I think I was just like, oh, look,
I don't just have to wear myself out and do
everything I can. I can pick the things that I
love more. And yeah, it's and for me, it's like,
you know, a variety. I love variety, and I love
you know, I love doing a bit of directing and
acting and writing. Having those it's also survival because like,
sometimes one of those things is all right up and
(02:29):
the other things are going going good guns.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And you know, that was exactly what I was going
to say, you know, the acting, directing, writing, presenting, it's
it's do you kind of go through seasons of each
or can they often be sort of going at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I mean I think often they're going at the same time.
Often I'm in a year. I mean some years I
do more acting than directing. I think last year I
probably did more directing than acting. And it's just nice
to have the it's just nice to kind of.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Have the variety.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Really, I think that I love doing both of those things. Obviously,
acting is the first thing I still doing, so it's
always going to be my one true love. But then
it's really fun to be creative in those other spaces
as well.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Do you like directing yourself? Do you like acting and directing?
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It's very hectic. Yeah, it's very hectic to try and
have your brain in two spaces at once and kind
of be because the director has to kind of be
the center for every other crew member, cast member on
the set for all their questions. And then when you're
also trying to think of a performance for yourself, you're like, oh, wait,
(03:37):
what do I want to do in the scene. How
do I want to act in the scene? You know,
like it's quite a lot, and I definitely feel exhausted
after doing that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Where's your priority at the moment? Are you in an
acting phase a directing phase? I mean, where would you
like to sort of as things progress or are you
very open to just carrying on taking whatever opportunities come
pretty open?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I think it just sort of depends on the project.
I think sometimes, like with acting, your really front and
center of something, and the kind of energy is quite
different from from directing. Like directing sort of feels like
more behind the scenes. Obviously more problem solving, which in
itself can be quite exhausting, but sometimes it's less exhausting
(04:17):
than actually being on camera yourself, which you know, when
you have to kind of delve into yourself emotionally to
create a character or you know, portray an emotion like
that itself can be so exhausting. So I think I
like the flipping between because sometimes it's nice just to
sit behind a camera in your own clothes and you know,
say cut well just.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
As you say, just think about one thing on that
particular job. Now, am I right? Double Park Season two?
It's released this week? It is such a unique, fun concept.
But am I right that you were actually always going
to direct, that you weren't going to act in it,
and then you've ended up in one of the starting roles. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I was asked to direct, and then it was like
do you want to act? And I was sort of
not sure about it, and I think I was on
another job at the time, so I hadn't really considered
it the acting of it. And then I finally got
my hand on a script before we were going into auditions,
and I sort of was like, I couldn't believe that
(05:13):
Chris had written this part. It felt like he had
written me or a part for me at least. And
Antonio weirdly now looking back as well, but has he
ever denied that has he ever said you actually Girls Night. No, absolutely,
It's like no, I just wrote the characters and then
it just felt like and I was like, well, I
have to play the character. It just feels so close
to me. And also, you know this obviously representation in
(05:37):
diversity is so much better these days, but it's still
real to be able to make a show about a
queer couple and kind of I think maybe at that point,
Nat was the first queer character I had played on screen,
or I played a bisexual character in The Breaker Rappers,
but like, so it was you know, in a career
(06:00):
of over twenty years, it's like, not a lot of
queer characters I've gotten to play, But in the last
few years, you know, it's obviously getting better. But yeah,
I sort of had to take the opportunity. Really as well, it's.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Such a fabulous show. You know, if you look at
the end of season one, it ended with this hilarious
episode where the two of you are giving birth and things.
You come back in into season two and actually the
first p is you know, and it was end of
season one. It was funny but moving as well. You
come back in and we're straight into full drama, you know,
(06:34):
And so I just love that there's all this room
there while there's this brilliant comedy and there's amazing cast
and some hilarious cameos, Go Montgomery giving you a epidural
and things brilliant condigs. There is so much room there
for it to be more than just one thing, which
I love.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, and I think that's what Chris has really got
his finger on, you know, Like he's such a funny guy,
and he's known as being such a funny comedian, but
he's just got a very brilliant mind, and he's got
a really great kind of take on something that can
be you know, he can make something really funny and
(07:09):
moving as well. And you know, this show is very
heartfelt and it's made with a lot of love, and
it's written with a lot of love, and I think
that's what sort of comes across in the final product.
But yeah, this season, the stakes are a lot higher
because there's two new beings in this flat full of
chaotic people, and so yeah, there's a lot. It's a lot.
(07:32):
It's just heavier because it's it's harder. It's hard.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
You've been involved in another one of my favorite shows
from the last few years the Ousie show Deadlock, which
is just so wonderfully bold and it's humor and so
much fun. You're heading back to OZ now to start
filming season two. Am I right in saying once again?
You started out as a writer on that show and
then ended up starring in this theme here is I
(07:58):
don't know what the theme on the door.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
And then it's quite funny because I'm forty four and
I'm like, you know, this career has been sort of all,
you know, like a career of an actor, sort of
all over the show. And I sort of diversified a
few years ago when I started getting into writing as well,
to kind of tell the stories I wanted to tell.
And you know, like I said before, I'm like, I'm
just grateful for the work. And I'd known the Kates
(08:22):
for a few years. They asked me to direct a
a web series that they were doing, and we'd always
just kind of kept in touch, and then the opportunity
to write came along. I was like, I have to
work with these women. They're like too amazing, too funny,
too clever, too silly, And so I started writing on
the show, but it was through lockdowns and pandemic, and
so we were sort of in virtual writers' rooms. I
(08:43):
was in Auckland in Lockdown and they were in Melbourne
and Lockdown and started writing on the show. And then yeah,
it just it just I got asked to audition and
I messaged one of the Kates and said as as
a prank. I thought it was a prank, but ended
up working on the show.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
There you go. Yeah, and the first one mostly sat
in Tasmania, and the second one you're off to Darwin,
which is apparently an amazing city, but you know, one
of quite extreme temperatures and large amount of crocodiles. A
large amount of crocodiles. Yeah, but you've had your crocodile
safety briefing.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I've been doing a lot of my own pre pre
production crocodile research. I've been watching a lot of Steve Irwin,
which is fun. Actually, it's nice to throw back to
watch with Steve viewin. But yeah, no, there's like one
hundred thousand crocks or something. They've grown all the crocs back.
It's hot, it's sweaty. I'm not sure I'm prepared from
this New Zealand winter to head into that, but I
(09:41):
am a half Fiji in Indian, so I probably should
be able to handle it a little bit. It's in
my DNA.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Surely, here we go. You know, we're talking about two shows,
Double Parked and Deadlock, and both we see quite refreshing
perspectives on characters that we don't normally see on TV.
And you kind of alluded to this a little bit before.
Do you love what TV is kind of throwing our
way now throwing audiences?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I think it's just I mean, it's it's kind of
about time. But also, you know what's been lovely to
see is is I think for a long time TV
was just quite sanitized, was quite mono. You know, it
was a certain group of people that we saw all
the time, and a certain age group of people, and
(10:27):
it's just what passed as television for such a long time,
and for you know, like in my twenties, you know,
I'd always be like, how come I can't get on
without actually stating the obvious, you know, people that looked
like me weren't being cast. And then you know, through
time and probably like I would say, even in the
last like fifteen years, you know, it shows I feel
(10:49):
like show like Orange is the New Black, where it
was just like women of all colors and races and
sizes and sexualities and genders, and you know, like it
was just I feel like there was just this kind
of explosion of diversity, and I think, you know, there've
been all these massive movements that have contray tributed to
the need to kind of share and projict more of
(11:12):
what society looks like. And so I feel I feel
like it was time, and it just it's crazy to
be like in my forties and and getting all this work.
It feels like when I was in my twenties, women
and actors and their forties were put out to pasture,
you know, women especially, So.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You're just entering your prime now injuring my.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Prime, did lock on Prime?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
There we go, Yeah, Hey, you're working across the New
Zealand and Astrata quite a bit at the moment. How
are we doing in comparison with our local content?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I mean, I don't know, it's a pretty I would
say it's a pretty skill. I mean it's a very
topsy tivy time for the industry in general, media TV
in the world, I think, not even just New Zealand. Like,
I feel like I feel like there's this little bubble
post pandemic, where you know, everyone was out of the
bubble and making stuff, and now there's been this obviously,
(12:04):
like you know, economic kind of contraction across all all
kind of across the world, and all industries and the
our industries really felt that as well. So there's been
a lot of you know, a lot of great shows
that have been cut and and so I feel very
(12:26):
lucky that we're getting to do that. I get to
do a second season of these shows, and obviously there's
an audience for them, and that's great. And in terms
of Australia and New Zealand, like I don't know, I
feel like I'm always really proud of how much New
Zealand has been a head of the game in terms
of like champion championing diversity and our you know and
(12:48):
indigenous culture and out within our sort of arts and media,
and you know, it's always a sort of start contrast
when I go to somewhere like Australia and you've realized
how how sort of behind in some ways they are
culturally in terms of like where we're at with our
race relations and how that affects the flow and affect
(13:09):
of that into TV and to what gets made and
all that sort of stuff. So I always do feel
like a bit you know, kind of up myself when
I come back to New Zealand and go, you know,
like we are representing people and we're doing it better
than a lot of places, and we're telling stories from
you know, I just think about Kevin and Co who
(13:30):
I make double part to it. You know, it's a
queer story about you know, two women who have babies
together and then they've got raised by refugees, which is
a show I directed with Paxacity who you know, it's
about a refugee family. And then you know you've got
all these kind of like people championing diverse voices. And
I think we've we've got a history that if you
(13:51):
go back to like the Top Twins Willie t you know,
there's always been no matter what era we've been in
or government, we've had New Zealanders love each other. I think,
and I think that we're not afraid to kind of
just be ourselves. And I know I think I do
feel really proud. I do think we do it better. Well,
(14:12):
sorry Australia.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Wells said, Hey, look I wish you all the best
saying that.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Did Locke is a very diverse show, and I think
that's another thing that people have really responded to us,
just absolutely, you know, it's one of the ones that
sort of stands out.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, but hey, look all the best for the next
four months. You're and when will you get to see
will your daughter join you at all?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I'm not going to be indwn the whole time, moving
around a bit, so I'll probably get her over when
she's a bit closer, because Darwin's basically like Bali, So
I'm like, it's so far away, she won't be able
to handle that flight. But if i'm I'll get her
over when it's a bit closs. Also, she has to
go to school, so she does. She must go to school.
She can't come out and have fun with me and crocodiles.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Just occasionally maybe, just pretty sure every time. I'm Adelan Sammy,
thank you so much for your time. Thank you, and
you can catch Madeline and Double Parked. It is on
three now and screening every Thursday on three.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
For more from the Sunday session with friend Skrudkin, listen
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