Organisers of the Aotearoa Music Awards have labelled Chris Bishop's comments as 'inappropriate' - and say they have no place at their event.
The National Party Cabinet minister's come under fire, for saying "what a load of crap" during a Stan Walker performance.
Bishop says he was criticising what he described as 'overtly political' Toitū te Tiriti flags and banners, but should have kept this thoughts to himself.
Flicks.co.nz editor Steve Newall says the organisers went on to say they are committed to creating a safe, respectful and inclusive environment.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks edb.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
New music from Lord this week. This is Man of
the Year and of course she turned up at the
Altro Music Awards, which was also very exciting and she
performed in a Ymca toilet. Most excitingly, she did tell
us that of course you will never miss a New
Zealand tour, so she will be back at some point,
which is excellent. Joining me now is talking entertainment Steve Neil,
(00:33):
editor at flex Star, coded and ze good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good morning. What a night it was on Thursday. Wonderful,
wonderful ceremony, an excellent mood in the room and so
many deserving winners are taking the stage throughout the night.
A real joy to be celebrating the successes of alter
Or music at the Armors this year.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, no, it was. It looked like an amazing night
and we've spoken to people who've been to it, and
you know, it's really interesting that genuinely there is a
very supportive community feel around New Zealand music, you know,
and everybody was there to celebrate, but maybe not quite everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, Well, the behavior of a senior National Party MP
continues to overshadow the actual kind of good and fun
news of the awards. Unfortunately, social media video of course
circulating of Chris Bishop taking very verbal exception to elements
of Stan Walker's performance on Thursday night and being told
off by New Zealand music legend Don McGlashan for his
(01:29):
i'd say borish behavior in the room. But the story
that doesn't go away today. Altered Our Music Awards and
Recorded Music New Zealand have publicly shared a statement they
issued to other media yesterday, just kind of kicking this
along a little bit. They said, yesterday we provided a
statement relating to the actions of one of our guests
at the Alted Our Music Awards on Thursday night and
(01:50):
we wanted to share it with you here. We loved
celebrating all the finalists, winners in our music community at
the event and enjoying the credible performances marit quite Au
and the statement says the inappropriate comments made by Honorable
Chris Bishop during Stan Walker's performance have no place at
the Alted om MUSS Awards. AMA is committed to creating
a safe, respectful and inclusive environment for everyone involved, and
(02:12):
expectations were clearly communicated to all who attended the event,
the awards respect and honor til Mary, and we were
proud to support stand with his vision for his powerful
rendition of Maori quita Ao. Like the song itself about
sustaining and perpetuating the Maori language and Malori culture, it
felt like a very organic celebration and celebrating tidity feels
(02:34):
like an extension of that. Nothing about that felt like
it was grandstanding in the room. It was notably like
I've been to music awards that had much more anti
government sentiment coming off the stage, and no, that is
not how it played in the room. So I think,
you know, if anyone's thinking that that mister Bishop was
(02:56):
on the receiving end of punches from a lefty music
community on the night, I wouldn't want to be told
off by. But he's embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You can have your opinion. It might not be your
favorite performance of the night. You might not like the
way other people participated, but actually it's not your house.
You're a guest. Dare I say be better? And actually,
you know, keep your comments to yourself for the uber
home or something.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I completely agree. I think McGlashan put it much more
succinctly by saying, shut up, dick head.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Okay, all right, there we go. I really want to
get your thoughts on a brand new film which has
just been released on Neon. This is Jesse Armstrong, who
of course is responsible for the TV show Succession so
many people loved. He has released a satire come black
comedy called Mountainhead.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I loved this now it felt a little bit from
the trailer like Jesse Armstrong was just going back to
the Succession genre and you know, let's get some let's
let's make fun of rich people. Let's let's make them
look stupid and give them some good insults and maybe
I can buy a new house on my victory lap
from Succession. But it proves to be a lot more
than that. The follow four senior tech executive senior tech
(04:09):
executives who are sequestered away in a mountain retreat playing
their kind of playing their sort of Marcho games with
one another, and as the world is actually kind of
crumbling on the TV around them through the direct consequences
of their own actions.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Love to ras each other, don't they, which is actually
really and so the people.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
The people you'll you're you're encouraged to consider them being
like Elon Musk or Peter Tiel or Jeff Bezos, and
it's very unflattering portrayals of them, but without being caricatures,
like without being directly this is Elon Musk with his
Ketaminius and South African accent, and you're just encouraged to
kind of get to I guess, like the psychological core
(04:50):
of what makes the people tick and man. According to
Jesse Armstrong, it is not pleasant. This is a this
is a chilling comedy in places.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I said yesterday when I talked to
Carl Pushman about it, I see look, to be honest
with you, I found all the bro talk, these characters
who are all desperately pretending they're friends, who clearly are
more kind of collaborators and competitors probably than what I
would call good friends, and I didn't I found it
quite hard to watch because they're also greating and I
didn't really understand the language they speak about the world,
(05:21):
and with the philosophy and an ethics that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I think they don't understand, they don't understand what it's
so like. Mountainheads clearly refers to the fountain Heads. It's
appropriating an ideology that's probably quite familiar now to everyone
emanating out of this ultra rich sphere. But yes, the
fact that they are powerful, stupid, but capable, so they're
kind of not the bump. They're not sort of the
(05:45):
bumbling execs we see in Succession. I'd like, these are
successful people running successful companies and everything's just kind of abstract.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, I know. But then there's this point in the
film where Steve Carell's character walks into a glass door,
which just felt so it's sort of randomly human in
amongst this film. And I tell you about that gig just
never never gets old. And then for me the film
kind of turned into this black comedy and then I
was one hundred percent on board. I just loved the
absurdity of it. You know, there is no limit to
(06:15):
the agreed and their arrogance and seemingly their forgiveness.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And I think distinguishing it a bit from Succession that
it's got a bit of a theatrical field because it's
kind of these people sequested on one location, so unlike
sort of jumping, you know, jumping around different plot strands,
you really are just stuck in there with these guys.
This is coming to Neon today. Neon has it listed
as a drama. That's probably one way of it'sing it.
But it's not a drama, no.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And look, I know you loved it from the get go,
but if you start watching it and you're not one
hundred percent sure, just stick with it because I've totally
fell in.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Love with that.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, I think those Jesse Armstrong rhythms. It'll stop feeling
like a succession clone pretty quick, and it's it's very
much its own beast.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to news Talks there'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks edb.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
New music from Lord this week. This is Man of
the Year and of course she turned up at the
Altro Music Awards, which was also very exciting and she
performed in a Ymca toilet. Most excitingly, she did tell
us that of course you will never miss a New
Zealand tour, so she will be back at some point,
which is excellent. Joining me now is talking entertainment Steve Neil,
(00:33):
editor at flex Star, coded and ze good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Good morning. What a night it was on Thursday. Wonderful,
wonderful ceremony, an excellent mood in the room and so
many deserving winners are taking the stage throughout the night.
A real joy to be celebrating the successes of alter
Or music at the Armors this year.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, no, it was. It looked like an amazing night
and we've spoken to people who've been to it, and
you know, it's really interesting that genuinely there is a
very supportive community feel around New Zealand music, you know,
and everybody was there to celebrate, but maybe not quite everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, Well, the behavior of a senior National Party MP
continues to overshadow the actual kind of good and fun
news of the awards. Unfortunately, social media video of course
circulating of Chris Bishop taking very verbal exception to elements
of Stan Walker's performance on Thursday night and being told
off by New Zealand music legend Don McGlashan for his
(01:29):
i'd say borish behavior in the room. But the story
that doesn't go away today. Altered Our Music Awards and
Recorded Music New Zealand have publicly shared a statement they
issued to other media yesterday, just kind of kicking this
along a little bit. They said, yesterday we provided a
statement relating to the actions of one of our guests
at the Alted Our Music Awards on Thursday night and
(01:50):
we wanted to share it with you here. We loved
celebrating all the finalists, winners in our music community at
the event and enjoying the credible performances marit quite Au
and the statement says the inappropriate comments made by Honorable
Chris Bishop during Stan Walker's performance have no place at
the Alted om MUSS Awards. AMA is committed to creating
a safe, respectful and inclusive environment for everyone involved, and
(02:12):
expectations were clearly communicated to all who attended the event,
the awards respect and honor til Mary, and we were
proud to support stand with his vision for his powerful
rendition of Maori quita Ao. Like the song itself about
sustaining and perpetuating the Maori language and Malori culture, it
felt like a very organic celebration and celebrating tidity feels
(02:34):
like an extension of that. Nothing about that felt like
it was grandstanding in the room. It was notably like
I've been to music awards that had much more anti
government sentiment coming off the stage, and no, that is
not how it played in the room. So I think,
you know, if anyone's thinking that that mister Bishop was
(02:56):
on the receiving end of punches from a lefty music
community on the night, I wouldn't want to be told
off by. But he's embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You can have your opinion. It might not be your
favorite performance of the night. You might not like the
way other people participated, but actually it's not your house.
You're a guest. Dare I say be better? And actually,
you know, keep your comments to yourself for the uber
home or something.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I completely agree. I think McGlashan put it much more
succinctly by saying, shut up, dick head.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Okay, all right, there we go. I really want to
get your thoughts on a brand new film which has
just been released on Neon. This is Jesse Armstrong, who
of course is responsible for the TV show Succession so
many people loved. He has released a satire come black
comedy called Mountainhead.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I loved this now it felt a little bit from
the trailer like Jesse Armstrong was just going back to
the Succession genre and you know, let's get some let's
let's make fun of rich people. Let's let's make them
look stupid and give them some good insults and maybe
I can buy a new house on my victory lap
from Succession. But it proves to be a lot more
than that. The follow four senior tech executive senior tech
(04:09):
executives who are sequestered away in a mountain retreat playing
their kind of playing their sort of Marcho games with
one another, and as the world is actually kind of
crumbling on the TV around them through the direct consequences
of their own actions.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Love to ras each other, don't they, which is actually
really and so the people.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
The people you'll you're you're encouraged to consider them being
like Elon Musk or Peter Tiel or Jeff Bezos, and
it's very unflattering portrayals of them, but without being caricatures,
like without being directly this is Elon Musk with his
Ketaminius and South African accent, and you're just encouraged to
kind of get to I guess, like the psychological core
(04:50):
of what makes the people tick and man. According to
Jesse Armstrong, it is not pleasant. This is a this
is a chilling comedy in places.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I said yesterday when I talked to
Carl Pushman about it, I see look, to be honest
with you, I found all the bro talk, these characters
who are all desperately pretending they're friends, who clearly are
more kind of collaborators and competitors probably than what I
would call good friends, and I didn't I found it
quite hard to watch because they're also greating and I
didn't really understand the language they speak about the world,
(05:21):
and with the philosophy and an ethics that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I think they don't understand, they don't understand what it's
so like. Mountainheads clearly refers to the fountain Heads. It's
appropriating an ideology that's probably quite familiar now to everyone
emanating out of this ultra rich sphere. But yes, the
fact that they are powerful, stupid, but capable, so they're
kind of not the bump. They're not sort of the
(05:45):
bumbling execs we see in Succession. I'd like, these are
successful people running successful companies and everything's just kind of abstract.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, I know. But then there's this point in the
film where Steve Carell's character walks into a glass door,
which just felt so it's sort of randomly human in
amongst this film. And I tell you about that gig just
never never gets old. And then for me the film
kind of turned into this black comedy and then I
was one hundred percent on board. I just loved the
absurdity of it. You know, there is no limit to
(06:15):
the agreed and their arrogance and seemingly their forgiveness.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
And I think distinguishing it a bit from Succession that
it's got a bit of a theatrical field because it's
kind of these people sequested on one location, so unlike
sort of jumping, you know, jumping around different plot strands,
you really are just stuck in there with these guys.
This is coming to Neon today. Neon has it listed
as a drama. That's probably one way of it'sing it.
But it's not a drama, no.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And look, I know you loved it from the get go,
but if you start watching it and you're not one
hundred percent sure, just stick with it because I've totally
fell in.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Love with that.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, I think those Jesse Armstrong rhythms. It'll stop feeling
like a succession clone pretty quick, and it's it's very
much its own beast.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to news Talks there'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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