June 29, 2025 • 40 mins
Reports say we need 2.5 hours of exercise a week, and 10-thousand steps a day.
How can we find the time and motivation to stay fit? Is there a method to sticking to a workout-plan despite a busy schedule?
Tim Beveridge is joined with Health and Mental Well-being Expert Kent Johns...
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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But right now we want to talk about well health,
exercising and exercising in ways it doesn't take forever as well,
because your juggling life can be tricky. You know, there
are reports that say, what did I see? Adults need
two and a half hours of moderately intense workouts a
week doesn't sound too bad. If it was a day
would be a bit too much for me, or seventy
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five minutes of super vigorous exercise.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
What that looks like.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Additionally, the experts say we should be aiming to walk
thirty minutes to an hour each day. How much of
your day is getting whittled away already but busy schedules.
How can we find time to meet these quotas? And
on top of that, motivation comes and goes. So how
can we develop the exercise habit and diet plan without
falling off the wagon? I would imagine falling off the
wagon would be one of the chief problems of just
getting fit, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Anyway, I don't have to provide.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
The answers because we get other people who spend a
lot more time thinking about and advising on these things.
And he's a health and mental well being consultant. And
his name's Kent John's and he's totally familiar to you
all because he's been around the radio scene for is
it Donkeys years, Donkeys years or e or Hey.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Nice to be back to It's been a wild man,
I've mischief.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Where have you been?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I've been bouncing all over the show? What about yourself?
Did I stuck rigid at work?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
No, No, actually, this is my last day for a
couple of weeks. Ectu.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I'm off heading down south to a bit of the
white stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Hopefully you like your skiing, don't you. Oh, I just
you know what, It's funny. If skiing was an indoor sport,
I wouldn't do it. It wouldn't be interesting at all.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Skiing, I think eighty percent of it is the environment.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
A sunny day. You know.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
When we went overseas and we skied through the trees
in France, that was one of the top experiences of
my life. It was just like, and it's not good,
you know, hopefully you do a few nice turns, but you.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Just look around and you go, look where we are,
look at nature. It's amazing. There we go, there's my
thoughts for the day.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I'm like that with swimming, just jumping in the oceans
and having a lot more fun, mostly than a pool
for example.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Right, yeah, Actually, what swimming do you do these days?
Are you you're a bit of a stickle snorkelne and
going on the fish?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, I like his snorkel.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
I took my daughter snorkling when we were away in
Fiji last year and it was so great to see
for her the first time in her life. Her mind
was boggling. It was just, oh my god, Dan, what
is under the water? And that was one of the
great parenting moments for me. So I love a good snorkel.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, actually that was That reminds me of the first time.
I think, what's the fish reserve up the marine reserve
up north of Auckland.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
And Goat Island.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, that's the one. And even Goat I mean Goat Island.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
It's not the Cook Islands or anything, but even that
you sort of you know, there's the water and then
suddenly the kids go under you and you see the
snapper and the color of the first and everything. It's
a mind blowing world underwater at the sports, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
We had that conversation on Radio Sport many years ago.
Would you rather spend the rest of your life out
at sea or out in space?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
What is scarier?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
And we came to the conclusion that actually the ocean
is all no.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
For what it's worth.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I think being stuck in space for that, I think
that would be the Maybe they're quite similar anyway, Hey,
look one of the things we're talking about is you
know people everyone can you know they can see someone's
post on Instagram or whatever they've got into the new
exercise habit. And I've managed to keep things up regularly,
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maybe three four times a week. But it's because the
prime thing I said was alex FULNTO actually had me
to do a program recently a while back, and I
just said, mate, I just want to be in and out.
I don't want to spend any extra time because you
know people who decide they love the weights, and before
you know it, you've done your warm up, you've had
a three or four minute rest between weights, and before
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you know it, there's two hours gone. It's just not sustainable. So,
I mean, how much of a challenge is it with
the people you work with that they're just like, I
just want to get it done.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I reckon the challenge is actually making the time to
even do ten minutes, let alone two hours. Honestly, people
are just and you and your intro they team you
talked about recommendations for thirty minutes a day and for
one hundred and fifty minutes a week and everything else.
How much of your schedule's already been taken up just
by exercise and movement. People honestly are struggling to meet
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the bare essentials of movement, which is, like you say,
one hundred and fifty minutes. So the people that I
work with, and the people that I talk to, and
just my mates and myself. Often I'd love to do more,
but there's only so much we can do with the
schedules that we have in front of us. So really
it comes back to the simple question. I have to
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make the time. I have to carve out the time
for movement and exercise. Therefore, how much time do I
actually have? Do I have an hour or do I
only have thirty minutes? And if I only have thirty minutes,
what can I do within the thirty minutes to make
sure that I'm getting value from that?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Well, that was the reason I was what I've had
a bit of a niggle of an injury to stop,
stop running and get to the gym. But the thing
I loved about the running was you do it from home. Basically,
your shoes go on, you get out the door, and
then you get moving and then half an hour forty
minutes later you're back. And that I mean as opposed
to if you live a little bit more remotely, you
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got to drive for the German. I don't know minimum
five minute drive, ten fifteen, twenty minutes each way.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Before you know it, you just you commute. It's it's
a pain in the ass. What do you do? You
do you go to a gym or what's your exercise?
What was the exercise regime that got it to stick
for you?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I think finding something that I really enjoyed to start with,
and that was walking. That was but I had the time.
I was had a lot of time at home a
few years ago, so I could go for a one
hour walk each day and I loved it, and I
had the time.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It was not a problem for me.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
But since I've started working at the Autonomy Health Clinic
for three days a week tim I have found that's
a squeeze now is to try and get in as
much exercise as I would like. So for me, getting
my heart rate up now might mean going for a run.
And I'll tell you what's opened my eyes a little bit.
And I'm not a big guy on metrics. I know
(07:11):
people love metrics, and for good reason. Some people will
come what a metrics metrics would be? Your garment watching,
your Apple watch and your aura rings and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
We are actually measuring health data in real time.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
But what I've come to really appreciate is if I
want to bump my heart rate up in a very
short space of time, then running is the way to
go as opposed to the walk. So I can go
for an hour's walk and my heart rate will probably
not get up beyond zone three, whereas if I'm going
for a run, I'm in zone five going hard for
probably eighty to ninety percent of the time.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So that's one way to look at it.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Like, if I've only got half an hour, if I've
only got ten minutes, am I able to do something
maybe of higher intensity? Or can I actually take my
time and do things a little bit slower if I've
got more time to be able to do that. And people, look,
there's no elegant solution here, tim because quite quite frankly,
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there's only twenty four hours in a day. Everyone has
to sleep for eight working hard, you've got to want
to move, you have to want to exercise, and then
of course you have to make the time for it.
But if you've only got five minutes, if you've only
got three minutes, if you only got ten, there are
things that you can do to at least tell yourself, hey, man,
I did something today, And that might be doing some stretches,
it might be doing some little exercise snacks, it might
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be doing a little quick hit t a hit session
for example.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
For the Because what do you find most people's motivators
are I think you have when we've discussed it before
you one of the big things you've emphasized is you've
got to find your why why you do right. I
mean you've got to. I mean because in the end,
if you're not motivated, then you're going to give up.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Aren't you.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
It won't stick unless somehow you're a peculiar kind of
creature who just needs to write it in your diary
and you do it. Maybe that's part of it. I mean,
what's the most common why for the people you work with?
Is it because they want to take off their shoe
and before they get in the shower, look at themselves
in the mirror and go and not go yuck.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
I think body image is a big one. I think
not wanting to get sick is a big one. I
think wanting to be active for children and grandkids is
a big one as well. So I reckon those would
be the big three that I would run into. And
you're right about motivation. Mine is to not get chronically
ill and to still be fit and active and healthy
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into my eighties and nineties. And I want to be
I want to be a contribute. I want to be
a fit, healthy father who's active with my kids. And
then I want to be a fit and active grandkid,
our grandfather further on than.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
You, really, I mean, I guess we should expect this
from you, because if somebody's not going to think it
right through, you would be the man given what you do.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Well, I'll tell you who inspires me as a made
of mine from the tennis club who His name is
Don and he's eighty years of age. He's eighty, so
he's got more than thirty years on me, and he's
playing tennis every week, And a couple of my mates
and I who play with him are like, Wow, can
you imagine if we're still able to do this in
thirty three years from now? What a hell of a
great example he's setting. Tim, So I want to be
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like him?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Are they are the best motivators about you? About the individual,
in other words, your sense of well being or your vanity.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I don't mean vanity in a mean way. We're all
we've all got levels of vanity.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You know, there's a point where we'd look at each
other and go, sorry, this is this has got beyond
the pale. You know, even the most unvain would be like, no, no, no, no,
I can't be able to look at this any longer.
Or is it better if you find are the longer
lasting motivators things that are less to do with you
and more to do with others, because I would suggest
you're talking about the wise, you know, And for me,
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I wonder you know when now I've got kids and
things and we enjoy holidays where were active part of it.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It's still about me because I want to enjoy being
with my kids, but it's being or to participate. It's
something at else aside from just you know, how much
to awaigh and how do I feel?
Speaker 5 (11:14):
So that's that difference between an intrinsic motivation, which comes
from within, an extrinsic motivation, which is for somebody else.
So if you're playing a team sport, of course, the
intrinsic motivation is you want to go well because you
have pride in your performance and you want to enjoy yourself,
but you also want to be a good teammate, so
it's important that you're motivated by what others think of
your contribution. I think it comes back to if, in doubt,
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term around motivation have a link to your values.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
What is it that you're really value in life?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
And it's something that I never really thought about or
gave much thought to for a long, long, long time,
and now I think about it all of the time.
What is it that I value in life? What is
important to me? What is my guiding north star? Where
am I going? And a lot of us fall out
of our touch with our values, and that's partly why
we end up going off the rails and we find
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ourselves in a position of the poor mental wellbeing or
poor physical well being because we've we've drifted over a
period of time. So we can quickly bring that back.
What is it that you value? Do you value being
out in nature like you do? Do you value being
still able to run a sub three hour marathon when
you're fifty five years of age? Do you value being
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supple and nimble on the ground and rolling around with
your grandkids and know that you've got the energy to
be an awesome grandparent, like, what is it that you
really value? Because if you can tap into those, the
motivation often comes off the back of that.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So I mean in terms of your own journey, because
you know, as we know you were we worked in
radio for quite a while.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
In the sports realm.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Were you always see I'm trying to remember when we
first met, whether you were the lean, mean machine that
we see today before us today, were you?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Was there a.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Time, you know, in your broadcasting career where you were
interviewing sports people and you thought, God, look at me,
I'm a shocker.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
There's a photo of me when I was doing sideline
for the Warriors, interviewing one of the Warriors players. This
is but I think it's forteen to fifteen years old now,
and there I am in a hooded switchhet on the
ground interviewing one of the Warriors players, and my face
was fat, and my skin was sort of yellowy, my
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eyes were puffy. And I've since been able to go
back and have a look at my blood test results
from all of those years ago, and I was actually
metabolically sick. I was carrying too much weight. But that's
not the biggest deal. The biggest deal was I was
crok and I didn't know it at the time. So no,
I haven't always been the lean machine. I was out
of shape mentally and physically for a lot of years
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and just didn't pay enough attention to it.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
What didn't pay enough attention to it?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I mean, I don't know how much you want to
share about the stuff, because sometimes the staff gets pretty personal.
But what was it for you that triggered it did
the change?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I'd talk about the stuff all the time because I
do a lot of public speaking, and I run workshops
and speak at conferences. And I was speaking to a
group at Fonterra and Hamilton just three days ago, and
I got up on and I shared some of my
story that what drives me to be healthy, tim is
the fact that I know what it's like not to be.
And I was burnt out. I hit the wall. I
was not looking after myself. I had chronic inflammation, I
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was drinking too much alcohol. I wasn't coping with the
job that I used to love. And I'd had enough.
And so anyone who's been through burnout, anyone who's been
to the depths of despair, bloody hell bad not depression,
I wouldn't go that far, but I probably was running close.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
You don't want to end up there again.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
So that has greatly helped me in the last six
or seven years to keep on track.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
So I know how I know? Life is really hard man.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
It's so challenging and at times it's overwhelming, and I
still feel overwhelmed. But I know that if I didn't
take these steps to look after myself, I would shudder
to think where I'd be. So I know that coping
mechanisms actually help, even when we know that would rather
be somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Because it's quite emotional stuff listening to this in a way,
because I'm sure there are a lot of people who
have either been through that they might be there now,
you know. I mean, life's tough across the living is expensive,
you know, and things get on top of you lose
a bit of motivation. Next thing you have another five
ten kilos heavier. You're not happy and yeah it's pretty
fall on, isn't it. Well we want to take your course?
Is sorry?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Where you go kent?
Speaker 5 (15:23):
No quick just real quick tim Often I asked people
when was the last time you felt great about yourself?
And they go, oh, eighteen, and they'll look up and
you know you'd land a good question. And you do
this with your interviewing whenever someone looks up and thinks,
you know, that's a good question, and they look up
and they go, I'm not sure, and they think about it,
and they think about it and they think about it,
and they'll say, oh, it was ten or fifteen years ago,
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and you'll say, what was different then? And they were
either single or they had they were young and had
a job that they really loved. And chances are tim
they were active, they were moving, they were fit, and
they didn't have the pressure of a mortgage and kids
and having sick parents.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
They went sandwiched.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I see so many people in their forties and fifties
and early sixties who are sandwiched with so much pressure
and so much expectation, and they're trying to be everything
to everyone and they're struggling to cope and look after themselves.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Man.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
And it's a really, really hard road. But I am
also an optimist when it comes to the stuff, because
I know that you can turn it around in a
pretty cook space of time.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Wow, Hey, look we want your calls. Eight hundred and eighty,
ten and eighty, And it is The general question is
about what if you have got going with the exercise,
what is it that's kept you going?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
What's your motivator?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Because there are a lot of people everyone, we're all
on in this constant journey all the time, and you
can turn in and out of these sorts of hours
and then suddenly something and you get engaged by it,
or you might have fallen off the wagon. What was
it that worked for you and then suddenly didn't work
for you? We want we want to talk about what
is your motivator to keeping healthy? And I mean, gosh,
that question about what's the what's the last time you
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felt great about yourself? It's quite a challenging question. I'm
trying to think how i'd answer that one. Actually, you
can give us a call. We'd love to hear if
you want to pick Kent's mind about about getting going,
or you're seeking some inspiration, maybe we can put our
heads together and help you out. Eight hundred eighty ten
eighty And also how much is time a factor in
you making a change in your fitness and your well being?
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I want to hear from you now over to you
twenty four past four Kent, and I'll keep chatting of course,
but if you want to join us, then that's the
number eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We'll be back in
just a moment. This is a weekend collective on news
talk z edb.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Yes, Yes, welcome back Tim Bever's work.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
This is a week in collective health up with Kent
John's what's your motivated? What helped you stick to your goals?
We want your calls on eight hundred eight ten eighty.
I will just say quickly that when I say eight
hundred eighty ten eighty, we had a few calls and
they all just wanted to talk my producer, and really
the aim of the game is talked about you actually
have to want to come on air and share your
stories and look, we're quite we're quite nice. I did
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see a few calls flash up and then my producer
Isaiah was like, they just.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Want to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I was like, okay, well not quite the name of
the game, but anyway, so we want your cause. Just
before we go to Matt Jason, somebody what somebody's just
asked that they're in the space you have described about just.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Being you know, unhealthy. What Yeah, and you talked about
creating space. Did that mean? What did that mean? That
mean leaving your job? What was creating space for you?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Look, I was.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Talking about creating space from I think a movement and
exercise position a little bit earlier. But I know when
I was really striking a little while ago, I had
to It's it's hard, you know, when you're in it, Tim,
I don't know if you've had those days or weeks
when you you just can't see much beyond your own existence,
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and it's it's a real battle, and it's a it's
a real struggle, and going through this, you're vaguely most
of us are, right, if we're vulnerable enough to talk
about it, most of us have been in that position,
and we know what it's like.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
It's for me. You know.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
What's a really good tool is to catch yourself and say, Okay,
what am I out of ten right now? Let's say
I'm a two, two out of ten? Bad day, bad day?
How do I get myself to a three? Because the
problem is we're all wanting to go from a two
to an eight, or a two to a ten.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
It's bloody hard to go from a two to a ten.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
It might take days, weeks, months to get there right,
But what can I do to help myself get to
a three? Is it to make myself a nice coffee?
Is it to go for a ten minute walk? Is
it to ring a mate? Is it a hot shower?
Is it to read a couple of pages of a book?
Is what is it that can help me just move
up the scale just a little bit?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I think that is one of the best bits of
advice I've heard for people who are struggling, because a
lot of the time people and we've got calls, we're
going to get them too it straight away if you're
sitting there holding the Thing I like about that is
that it's not I think a lot of people think
I've got to get my life order, and they look
at the whole picture and they go, oh, you know,
I need to probably be going to the gym three
or four times a week and doing all this, and
it's just such It's like it's like I'm sure that
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you know. It's like every masterpiece starts with a few brushstrokes,
and I just think for me, it was about the
simple goal was to put my shoes on and get
out the door. I didn't even think about the walk
all the run, just get the shoes on, and out
you go. Job done. In fact, that's sort of still.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It's like going to the gym. I just get in
the car and I head to the gym. Job done.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Once getting the door, Well, what are you going to
do there? You're not going to sit there crocheting, are you?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
And when we're two out of ten, you're right, three
or four going to the gym three or four times
a week, that's beyond us. It's overwhelming. We're not going
to be able to manage that. But what if we
could put our shoes on and go for a walk
and get one hundred meters down the road and think,
you know what, since I'm out here, I want all
keep going. Yeah, five minutes later, we start to feel
a little bit better. And the other part to that,
tim also is to trust our experience rather than our thoughts.
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And what I mean by that is, you know, when
we're on the couch and where woe is me? The
victim mentality kicks and we're feeling like a dog's backside
and we just want to sit there and wallow. I
know that if I get up and go for a
walk or go for a run, I one hundred percent
will feel better, and I know that from past experience.
So now you're in that push pill, that push pull,
there's the tension. Do I stay on the couch feeling
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like rubbish? Or do I actually get up and move
knowing I will feel even just a little bit better.
And that knowledge is greatly helpful because I know therefore
that if I do move, even if I cannot get
to an eight, I'll probably get to.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
A three or a four, and that sure as hell
is better than a two.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I reckon right, let's take some calls.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Matt Gooday, Hey, you going to guys me by man? Yeah,
Tim knows. I've been on the journey over the last year,
lost twenty kilo's been walking. I've since bummed up from
six thousand steps a day to seven and a half
when I can. I didn't today because it was miserable.
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But I'm looking at going back to full time works
soon then, so time won't be as good as it was.
Like like you mentioned, but to take up running is
kind of a slight handicap with bad knees, and also
when you've got a bit of a pot gup that's
really hard to shake, feels like it's jiggling around if
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you you know, when you try and jog and it's
a bit awkward. Is there any way around just that
hurdle in your opinion?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Well, I think walk running is a good one. That's
an underrated one.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
As are you buying two together?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Well, sort of just walk and then run and then
get the you know, jiggle and ache and then stop
again sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
How I think? Yeah, No, I was just about to
say to them.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
A lot a lot of us think, oh no, people
are looking at us or feel bad if I start, Well,
what if you run on the flat in the downhill
and then walk the uphills like that is bloody good
exercise man, and you're getting it out and you're doing it.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
That's the way to combine the two.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Or else what you can do, Matt is maybe shorten
things up a little bit and do some exercises whilst
you're at work. It's called exercise snacking. So the reason
why walking is so good, particularly after a meal, that
helps with something called insulin sensitivity, and going for a walk,
even for ten or fifteen minutes can help the way
that the body metabolizes what we've.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Just had for lunch.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
If you can't manage fifteen to twenty or thirty minutes
because you're busy at work. Do a whole lot of
air squats once an hour, Do ten air squats once
an hour, do some pushups, do some sit ups once
an hour for six or seven hours. And the thought
is now, to believe it or not, that the benefits
from doing that are about the same as going for
a half hour walk, which is perfect for people that
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are in office jobs or who are busy and simply
cannot justify going out for twenty to thirty minutes at
a time.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Hey Matt, what are you walking? Did you say at
the moment still or no? I can't remember, couldn't remember
what you said? You're doing curardly?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah? I walk every day?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
How fast?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Uh brief walk? Try and get the heart rate going,
you know, because my truck driver when I'm working, so
some of those exercises thanking a lot of time for
well half our break and stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
The reason I ask is because I got a friend
of mine who was over one hundred kilos who's been
he's gone on, he's got in touch with the NUTRITIONNIS
so sorting his diet out, and he's doing half an
hour of almost uncomfortably fast walking. But it's just brisk
walking every day.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
And he's lost.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
He's now under ninety kilos and all he's doing is
he's watching has died a bit. I wouldn't say religiously,
but he's walking his ass off literally, I think.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Is that what I went for one hundred and two
down to like eighty five eighty seven? I seem to
hover around there but doing well. Yeah, but it's just
the timing keeping it up for struggling to run is
what I'm trying to get it when it sort of
hurts your knees and.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
You know, I think the obvious answer is he doesn't
need to run, does he?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
No?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I mean an exercise bike is quite good.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I mean physiotherapist they love bikes right because you're getting
on there.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
It's a hell of a good workout.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
You get your heart rate up real quick, and it's
non weight bearing and good for joint pain and reducing
inflammation tim So that's another option. Of course, the good
old cycle or swimming there of course is the time
constraints because you've got to get to the pool, you
go for your swim, you get out all that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
People need to figure.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Out how they can get the most out of the
time that they have available to move because it comes
back to just having to make the time for it.
And if we don't, if we're unable to make the
time tim then I can come up with one hundred
different forms of training where anyone can say, hey, do
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this or do that. But if you're unable to carve
out the time or make the time will make it,
then it's all rather pointless.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
The other thing, Matt, if you don't mind me saying, Matt,
because we've been chatting a while on talkback and you
know people that would have remembered your cause when we
we chatting at nighttime, and I think you've got to
give yourself a break and pat yourself on the back
because there was a time I think when you probably
went the happiest guy around. And I can tell from
what you've been doing fitness wise that you've you've made
major changes.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
You need to give yourself a bloody give yourself a celebration. Mate.
I think you're doing great.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Thanks work in progress, and someone else get on you.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Good on you, But seriously, yeah, good on you, mate,
I mean you do you've also, he just said, I
was over one hundred kilos.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Now I'm down to eighty five. I mean, bloody hell.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Anyway, it's a journey rather than a destination. He's making
some great changes to me.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
And look eating well, watching what you eat and then
having the energy to move and then doing something with it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
There's there's the key to the kingdom right there.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Right, Chuck's going to brag about how good he is
at tennis. I think let's just check Chuck.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Hello, Hi, Yeah, yeah, I maybe one, and I played
tennis twice a week, and I know a few other
people my age and older that play regular And it's
a really good thing because it doesn't just keep you
physically fit, it keeps your mind active because you've got
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to think how strong is one of the opponents, like
when you're playing doubles, and if I do this, can
my partner help me out or whatever. So it's really
good mentally and physically.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
So you're thinking if you've got to partners a bit
slower than you, like I'm going to have to cover
the whole of the back corks the rint is about
three feet.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Yeah yeah, or they could be better as well too.
There's some you know in the club I played. There's
this woman played till she was ninety.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
How about injury, how do you mean?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean, how do you look after yourself with because
of an injury can slay down? There'll be a bit
of a nuisance, wouldn't I've been.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
I've been very fortunate because before I got into tennis
a bit more seriously, I used to run and with
a joggers club and I do half marathons and that,
and I'm very fortunate. Moneys are fine.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, good, and and at any as the motivation the.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Competition, oh well, it's we're not too competitive, that's the thing.
And we never it's a good good social clubs I'm
into and we never criticize your partner if they miss
a shot or if they take a shot when you
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should have got. We're not competitive like that. And then
after the games we socialize and have coffee.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
On that good stuff. Jack, you save the competitive stuff
that talk back good Yeah, okay, you on your Chuck.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
I'll tell you what that that's exactly he's just what
Chuck's described him as exactly what we do on a
Thursday morning at my tennis club. There are a lot
of gee sorry mates every weekday. Oh I should have
got there. Sorry man, No, no, you fine, It's okay,
don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I don't worry.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Look, if you if you just want to you know,
if you just want to not move, that's fine. You
just start at the front of the net there and
if it's if it's not reachable, don't worry. Don't you
run for that bathering gust. By the way, if you're
if you're a tennis partner of Chuck, and he has been,
he's been hiding his competitiveness.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Let us know.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We'll be back with Jenny
and Helen straight after this.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It's twenty one minutes to five news talks. He'd be so.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I wonder if that might be Kent John's theme music
when he's working out. Make your work, make you burn,
make your sting, something like that. Anyway, we're talking about
your motivation with Kent John's and Jenny.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Hello, Hello, Tim, Hi, I'm just sitting here listening and
enjoying your program. I don't want to ring up, but
I have to ring you up about motivation.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
So I'm in christ Church and twice a week I
go up the hills. I live on the other side
of christ Church from the hills, and twice a week
I get in my car, drive to the bottom of
the hills, over the other side of town and climb
up to the sign of the Keyway all around there
for two or three hours. Now if motivation, I don't
think about it. If I thought about it, I'd find
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every excuse not to go. But I get in my
car and just do it. Just do it, don't think
about it, just do it.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Is that well, this is partly routine, But I thought, no,
it's not wrong. You just get in your car and
then the job's done. As soon as you're in card
you're driving and you have to finish it off.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
Well, I look at my diary to see what's on,
so I don't say, right Tuesday morning I go up there.
It depends on what's on. But I make it my
business to go twice a week, and then I just
get in the car and go. If I thought about it,
I'd say it's too cold, too wet. I'm coming up
eighty seven and I walk up there. I have no
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puffing and blowing. I sail straight up the steepest part
of the hills.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I'll tell you what Jenny. If I'm doing that when
I'm your age, that's awesome. So, I mean, Jenny's keeping
it simple asn't she kent. It's just I'm not sure
what his secret is.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Presumably, Jenny, you enjoy the walk.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
Well, I just do it because I know over the
years I've reaped the rewards. Now I'm so lucky. I'm
so agile. If I was walking on the flats, it
wouldn't do it for me. But it's the hills. It's
getting the heart rate up, and it just changes the
whole psyche for some reason once you get on the hills.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Are you one of those?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Are one of those?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Are you one of those smug older people who passed
the sort of person half your age is puffing away
just like.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
No, I've always skied. Look, I've skied and tramped and
climbed and I skated and I've had that many injuries.
I was a mobile skier and you know what that's like.
And it's amazing. My knees touch wood, but honestly, my
legs are really really good.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, I think, actually, you've just kept active all your
life and then yeah, I mean, yes I have.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
And I would encourage people, but all I hear is
I haven't got time, or I'll make time. I'll go tomorrow.
You have to have it in the psyche. Not necessary
to make a plan, but just do it. Don't analyze
it and worked it all out. Well, look, I think
I'll go tomorrow afternoon or go. It's definitely just do it.
I think that's a huge one.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You're not sponsored by Nike, are you? Are there lessons
to be gleaned from Jenny just keep I mean she's
established an active lifestyle over decades obviously, just always been
outdoors doing things.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah, look, I'm guessing she enjoys the walk, so even
when it's a little bit windy or a little bit rainy,
she knows she's banked enough mileage in her brain enough
experienced him to think, you know, this is good for me.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
So I'll continue to do so.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
And it's probably one of those things that she's found
that is protective of her health. So if we can
all find at least one of those, then we're ahead,
because then we can think, Okay, it might not be
the first my first choice right now to be doing this,
but I'm probably better off for having done it than not.
And so I think that that can be a motivator
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for sure.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I have a friend who did one of the coast
to coast events. It was the one where it's a
two day event or something, and he said the low
point he was in his forties.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
He said a low.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Point came when he was passed by an elderly gentleman
who was singing to himself as he ran past. And
it's like, I almost wonder if that was the sort
of tactic he thought. The older girl is like, I
think I might sing a little song as I passed
this poor sap.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Why not hang on?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
What's the time? Thirteen to five? Helen? Hello?
Speaker 9 (34:11):
I used Hi, Tim and Ken. Now just a long
story which I won't I'll try and be brief. I've
got a progressive neuromuscular condition tous injuries. And when I
had this condition of mine, diagnosed years years ago, I
was dairy goat breader right and anyway, I was told
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that I should keep farming as long as I could.
It was the best thing. Now I found that this
was very difficult because there was no support at all. Anyway,
I am still farming. I've had to change everything. I've
got some small acreage and I keep some few cattle
and that gives me some exercise. But I can't do
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all the stuff that I keep being referred to, you know,
push ups, running, walking, I can't do any of that.
I've had to completely rethink every thing. And I do
everything mostly out of my car and along the fence line.
And I could do some stuff with I can have
held my balance, I mean balance is completely shot. But anyway,
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I listened to these programs and I sort of feel
doomed because I can't do all the stuff that held
we have to do otherwise, you know. So I was
just when I was just wondering if you could actually
do a program for people with disabilities. It's a huge
(35:37):
topic of very wide and I don't know how you
do it, but that there must be something because well
I was.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Not a suggestion for us for now. Actually a.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Lot of awful lot of people with disabilities out there,
and I mean I really feel doomed. I mean I'm
trying kind of honestly that the neurologist was right, but
it's very, very difficult. But I'm kind of addicted to it,
you know, Like I mean I get out there and
then there are a whole hay around and stuff like that.
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That gives me some fitness, but I can't. I'm quite disabled.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Okay, Helen, Look, we're short of time unfortunately, and you're right,
this is that would be a great issue for us
to address a program.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
On and I'll make a note to our producers about that.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Have you got any movement specialists bringing a movement specialist
some great idea?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, so, Helen, Yes, I'm sorry, I'm not sure what
we can advise right now, but we have been assuming
sort of able bodied, able bodied really and of course,
but there are plenty of I gather there are there
are plenty of people out there who can advise. I'm
not sure who they would go to, what sort of
organizations were exercising for disabled people.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Movement therapists, movement specialists.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
There are there are people out there who are well
versed in helping those of us that are not as
able bodied as we'd want to be.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
And hey, just before we go, we're going to quickly
come back with one more care but just one quick
text here. Somebody just has asked an interesting question, who's
hit the magic ten thousand steps that the likes of
the New Garment of set in place, and what should.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
You do if you're a bit older seventy.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I don't remember the name of the company.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I think it was either a Japanese or a Korean company,
caught a few year years ago, and they were wanting
to sell perdomitives.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
And it was just ten thousand, because we're obsessed, we're
fixated with teen.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I had no it didn't have necessarily any science. They
just like ten thousand. There's the magic number. Boom far. Anyway, Look,
we can try and doing a bit of googling if
we need to find any more. In the break it's
nine and a half to five news talks. He'd be yes,
great conversation about your wives and their motivation forgetting exercising.
I did mischievously put a call out to people to
if you played tennis with Chuck. There's a Texas saying
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basically saying it that they were a member of Chuck's
tennis club. But just don't mention that you're a big
fan of Jacinda Adern when you're playing with him or
against them, and you'll be just fine.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I think we could work that out there.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I think we could probably just guess that anyway, Sally.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
Hello, Hello, I've been diagnosed with a congestive heart failure.
Is it a danger putting my heart rate up?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Okay, Kent, mild heart conditions.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
I would talk h Yeah, I would talk to an
exercise physiologist about that.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, they can help.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
They can help reintegrate movement and exercise based on the
way that your heart's functioning.
Speaker 10 (38:34):
Right, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Have you sought any advice yet, Sally? Have you sort
have you had a chat with your doctor about this?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Have they give you given you any No?
Speaker 10 (38:43):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I just.
Speaker 10 (38:47):
I have a sedentary sort of life in my nineties.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Okay, Well, I would say definitely worth having a chat
with someone, and certainly don't go out and try and
do anything to extreme for sure. But you've asked the
question on National talkback. So there's your motivator. You've started
talking about it.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Talking about it. It's a good way to get going,
isn't it, Kent?
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Man, tell people, tell people what your aspirations are, because
that can help hold you accountable to what you want
to be doing and ultimately make yourself feel more successful.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Yeah, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
And actually this one that says gosh him. I'm sixty eight.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
My phone has just told me that this year I'm
averaging thirteen thousand steps a day plus plus a day
I walk kids to score and I walk a dog
twice a day. In fact, I've had a few people saying,
you want to get exercising by a dog.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Yeah, I've heard that too.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, it's not the strangest bit of advice.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Enough for me though, not enough to sway me to be.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
A dog and your cat man? Are you?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Oh die curious?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
And just the last one.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I thought we'd end off with a little love note
really from Lynde, says my husband walks and bikes. Mike
has done magnificently after all that he's been through. Well
done Mike regards Night Listener. I think that means love
Night Listener, unless the regards as for me, the loves
for Mike anyway.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Hey, great to catch that out.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Now if people want to catch up, we'll get a
bit more advice from you professionally.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Where do they go?
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Kent Kent John'shealth dot co dot m z' love to
hear from you. Thanks for having me, Tim, good to
catch up.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, great chat mate, and we'll be back, that's smart Money.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
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But right now we want to talk about well health,
exercising and exercising in ways it doesn't take forever as well,
because your juggling life can be tricky. You know, there
are reports that say, what did I see? Adults need
two and a half hours of moderately intense workouts a
week doesn't sound too bad. If it was a day
would be a bit too much for me, or seventy
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five minutes of super vigorous exercise.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
What that looks like.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Additionally, the experts say we should be aiming to walk
thirty minutes to an hour each day. How much of
your day is getting whittled away already but busy schedules.
How can we find time to meet these quotas? And
on top of that, motivation comes and goes. So how
can we develop the exercise habit and diet plan without
falling off the wagon? I would imagine falling off the
wagon would be one of the chief problems of just
getting fit, wouldn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Anyway, I don't have to provide.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
The answers because we get other people who spend a
lot more time thinking about and advising on these things.
And he's a health and mental well being consultant. And
his name's Kent John's and he's totally familiar to you
all because he's been around the radio scene for is
it Donkeys years, Donkeys years or e or Hey.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Nice to be back to It's been a wild man,
I've mischief.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Where have you been?
Speaker 5 (02:10):
I've been bouncing all over the show? What about yourself?
Did I stuck rigid at work?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
No, No, actually, this is my last day for a
couple of weeks. Ectu.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I'm off heading down south to a bit of the
white stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Hopefully you like your skiing, don't you. Oh, I just
you know what, It's funny. If skiing was an indoor sport,
I wouldn't do it. It wouldn't be interesting at all.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Skiing, I think eighty percent of it is the environment.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
A sunny day. You know.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
When we went overseas and we skied through the trees
in France, that was one of the top experiences of
my life. It was just like, and it's not good,
you know, hopefully you do a few nice turns, but you.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Just look around and you go, look where we are,
look at nature. It's amazing. There we go, there's my
thoughts for the day.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I'm like that with swimming, just jumping in the oceans
and having a lot more fun, mostly than a pool
for example.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Right, yeah, Actually, what swimming do you do these days?
Are you you're a bit of a stickle snorkelne and
going on the fish?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, I like his snorkel.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
I took my daughter snorkling when we were away in
Fiji last year and it was so great to see
for her the first time in her life. Her mind
was boggling. It was just, oh my god, Dan, what
is under the water? And that was one of the
great parenting moments for me. So I love a good snorkel.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, actually that was That reminds me of the first time.
I think, what's the fish reserve up the marine reserve
up north of Auckland.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
And Goat Island.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, that's the one. And even Goat I mean Goat Island.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
It's not the Cook Islands or anything, but even that
you sort of you know, there's the water and then
suddenly the kids go under you and you see the
snapper and the color of the first and everything. It's
a mind blowing world underwater at the sports, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
We had that conversation on Radio Sport many years ago.
Would you rather spend the rest of your life out
at sea or out in space?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
What is scarier?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
And we came to the conclusion that actually the ocean
is all no.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
For what it's worth.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I think being stuck in space for that, I think
that would be the Maybe they're quite similar anyway, Hey,
look one of the things we're talking about is you
know people everyone can you know they can see someone's
post on Instagram or whatever they've got into the new
exercise habit. And I've managed to keep things up regularly,
(04:21):
maybe three four times a week. But it's because the
prime thing I said was alex FULNTO actually had me
to do a program recently a while back, and I
just said, mate, I just want to be in and out.
I don't want to spend any extra time because you
know people who decide they love the weights, and before
you know it, you've done your warm up, you've had
a three or four minute rest between weights, and before
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you know it, there's two hours gone. It's just not sustainable. So,
I mean, how much of a challenge is it with
the people you work with that they're just like, I
just want to get it done.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I reckon the challenge is actually making the time to
even do ten minutes, let alone two hours. Honestly, people
are just and you and your intro they team you
talked about recommendations for thirty minutes a day and for
one hundred and fifty minutes a week and everything else.
How much of your schedule's already been taken up just
by exercise and movement. People honestly are struggling to meet
(05:17):
the bare essentials of movement, which is, like you say,
one hundred and fifty minutes. So the people that I
work with, and the people that I talk to, and
just my mates and myself. Often I'd love to do more,
but there's only so much we can do with the
schedules that we have in front of us. So really
it comes back to the simple question. I have to
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make the time. I have to carve out the time
for movement and exercise. Therefore, how much time do I
actually have? Do I have an hour or do I
only have thirty minutes? And if I only have thirty minutes,
what can I do within the thirty minutes to make
sure that I'm getting value from that?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Well, that was the reason I was what I've had
a bit of a niggle of an injury to stop,
stop running and get to the gym. But the thing
I loved about the running was you do it from home. Basically,
your shoes go on, you get out the door, and
then you get moving and then half an hour forty
minutes later you're back. And that I mean as opposed
to if you live a little bit more remotely, you
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got to drive for the German. I don't know minimum
five minute drive, ten fifteen, twenty minutes each way.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Before you know it, you just you commute. It's it's
a pain in the ass. What do you do? You
do you go to a gym or what's your exercise?
What was the exercise regime that got it to stick
for you?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I think finding something that I really enjoyed to start with,
and that was walking. That was but I had the time.
I was had a lot of time at home a
few years ago, so I could go for a one
hour walk each day and I loved it, and I
had the time.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It was not a problem for me.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
But since I've started working at the Autonomy Health Clinic
for three days a week tim I have found that's
a squeeze now is to try and get in as
much exercise as I would like. So for me, getting
my heart rate up now might mean going for a run.
And I'll tell you what's opened my eyes a little bit.
And I'm not a big guy on metrics. I know
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people love metrics, and for good reason. Some people will
come what a metrics metrics would be? Your garment watching,
your Apple watch and your aura rings and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
We are actually measuring health data in real time.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
But what I've come to really appreciate is if I
want to bump my heart rate up in a very
short space of time, then running is the way to
go as opposed to the walk. So I can go
for an hour's walk and my heart rate will probably
not get up beyond zone three, whereas if I'm going
for a run, I'm in zone five going hard for
probably eighty to ninety percent of the time.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So that's one way to look at it.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Like, if I've only got half an hour, if I've
only got ten minutes, am I able to do something
maybe of higher intensity? Or can I actually take my
time and do things a little bit slower if I've
got more time to be able to do that. And people, look,
there's no elegant solution here, tim because quite quite frankly,
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there's only twenty four hours in a day. Everyone has
to sleep for eight working hard, you've got to want
to move, you have to want to exercise, and then
of course you have to make the time for it.
But if you've only got five minutes, if you've only
got three minutes, if you only got ten, there are
things that you can do to at least tell yourself, hey, man,
I did something today, And that might be doing some stretches,
it might be doing some little exercise snacks, it might
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be doing a little quick hit t a hit session
for example.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
For the Because what do you find most people's motivators
are I think you have when we've discussed it before
you one of the big things you've emphasized is you've
got to find your why why you do right. I
mean you've got to. I mean because in the end,
if you're not motivated, then you're going to give up.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Aren't you.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
It won't stick unless somehow you're a peculiar kind of
creature who just needs to write it in your diary
and you do it. Maybe that's part of it. I mean,
what's the most common why for the people you work with?
Is it because they want to take off their shoe
and before they get in the shower, look at themselves
in the mirror and go and not go yuck.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
I think body image is a big one. I think
not wanting to get sick is a big one. I
think wanting to be active for children and grandkids is
a big one as well. So I reckon those would
be the big three that I would run into. And
you're right about motivation. Mine is to not get chronically
ill and to still be fit and active and healthy
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into my eighties and nineties. And I want to be
I want to be a contribute. I want to be
a fit, healthy father who's active with my kids. And
then I want to be a fit and active grandkid,
our grandfather further on than.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
You, really, I mean, I guess we should expect this
from you, because if somebody's not going to think it
right through, you would be the man given what you do.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Well, I'll tell you who inspires me as a made
of mine from the tennis club who His name is
Don and he's eighty years of age. He's eighty, so
he's got more than thirty years on me, and he's
playing tennis every week, And a couple of my mates
and I who play with him are like, Wow, can
you imagine if we're still able to do this in
thirty three years from now? What a hell of a
great example he's setting. Tim, So I want to be
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like him?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Are they are the best motivators about you? About the individual,
in other words, your sense of well being or your vanity.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I don't mean vanity in a mean way. We're all
we've all got levels of vanity.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You know, there's a point where we'd look at each
other and go, sorry, this is this has got beyond
the pale. You know, even the most unvain would be like, no, no, no, no,
I can't be able to look at this any longer.
Or is it better if you find are the longer
lasting motivators things that are less to do with you
and more to do with others, because I would suggest
you're talking about the wise, you know, And for me,
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I wonder you know when now I've got kids and
things and we enjoy holidays where were active part of it.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It's still about me because I want to enjoy being
with my kids, but it's being or to participate. It's
something at else aside from just you know, how much
to awaigh and how do I feel?
Speaker 5 (11:14):
So that's that difference between an intrinsic motivation, which comes
from within, an extrinsic motivation, which is for somebody else.
So if you're playing a team sport, of course, the
intrinsic motivation is you want to go well because you
have pride in your performance and you want to enjoy yourself,
but you also want to be a good teammate, so
it's important that you're motivated by what others think of
your contribution. I think it comes back to if, in doubt,
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term around motivation have a link to your values.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
What is it that you're really value in life?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
And it's something that I never really thought about or
gave much thought to for a long, long, long time,
and now I think about it all of the time.
What is it that I value in life? What is
important to me? What is my guiding north star? Where
am I going? And a lot of us fall out
of our touch with our values, and that's partly why
we end up going off the rails and we find
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ourselves in a position of the poor mental wellbeing or
poor physical well being because we've we've drifted over a
period of time. So we can quickly bring that back.
What is it that you value? Do you value being
out in nature like you do? Do you value being
still able to run a sub three hour marathon when
you're fifty five years of age? Do you value being
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supple and nimble on the ground and rolling around with
your grandkids and know that you've got the energy to
be an awesome grandparent, like, what is it that you
really value? Because if you can tap into those, the
motivation often comes off the back of that.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So I mean in terms of your own journey, because
you know, as we know you were we worked in
radio for quite a while.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
In the sports realm.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Were you always see I'm trying to remember when we
first met, whether you were the lean, mean machine that
we see today before us today, were you?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Was there a.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Time, you know, in your broadcasting career where you were
interviewing sports people and you thought, God, look at me,
I'm a shocker.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
There's a photo of me when I was doing sideline
for the Warriors, interviewing one of the Warriors players. This
is but I think it's forteen to fifteen years old now,
and there I am in a hooded switchhet on the
ground interviewing one of the Warriors players, and my face
was fat, and my skin was sort of yellowy, my
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eyes were puffy. And I've since been able to go
back and have a look at my blood test results
from all of those years ago, and I was actually
metabolically sick. I was carrying too much weight. But that's
not the biggest deal. The biggest deal was I was
crok and I didn't know it at the time. So no,
I haven't always been the lean machine. I was out
of shape mentally and physically for a lot of years
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and just didn't pay enough attention to it.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
What didn't pay enough attention to it?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I mean, I don't know how much you want to
share about the stuff, because sometimes the staff gets pretty personal.
But what was it for you that triggered it did
the change?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
I'd talk about the stuff all the time because I
do a lot of public speaking, and I run workshops
and speak at conferences. And I was speaking to a
group at Fonterra and Hamilton just three days ago, and
I got up on and I shared some of my
story that what drives me to be healthy, tim is
the fact that I know what it's like not to be.
And I was burnt out. I hit the wall. I
was not looking after myself. I had chronic inflammation, I
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was drinking too much alcohol. I wasn't coping with the
job that I used to love. And I'd had enough.
And so anyone who's been through burnout, anyone who's been
to the depths of despair, bloody hell bad not depression,
I wouldn't go that far, but I probably was running close.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
You don't want to end up there again.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
So that has greatly helped me in the last six
or seven years to keep on track.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
So I know how I know? Life is really hard man.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
It's so challenging and at times it's overwhelming, and I
still feel overwhelmed. But I know that if I didn't
take these steps to look after myself, I would shudder
to think where I'd be. So I know that coping
mechanisms actually help, even when we know that would rather
be somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Because it's quite emotional stuff listening to this in a way,
because I'm sure there are a lot of people who
have either been through that they might be there now,
you know. I mean, life's tough across the living is expensive,
you know, and things get on top of you lose
a bit of motivation. Next thing you have another five
ten kilos heavier. You're not happy and yeah it's pretty
fall on, isn't it. Well we want to take your course?
Is sorry?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Where you go kent?
Speaker 5 (15:23):
No quick just real quick tim Often I asked people
when was the last time you felt great about yourself?
And they go, oh, eighteen, and they'll look up and
you know you'd land a good question. And you do
this with your interviewing whenever someone looks up and thinks,
you know, that's a good question, and they look up
and they go, I'm not sure, and they think about it,
and they think about it and they think about it,
and they'll say, oh, it was ten or fifteen years ago,
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and you'll say, what was different then? And they were
either single or they had they were young and had
a job that they really loved. And chances are tim
they were active, they were moving, they were fit, and
they didn't have the pressure of a mortgage and kids
and having sick parents.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
They went sandwiched.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I see so many people in their forties and fifties
and early sixties who are sandwiched with so much pressure
and so much expectation, and they're trying to be everything
to everyone and they're struggling to cope and look after themselves.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Man.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
And it's a really, really hard road. But I am
also an optimist when it comes to the stuff, because
I know that you can turn it around in a
pretty cook space of time.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Wow, Hey, look we want your calls. Eight hundred and eighty,
ten and eighty, And it is The general question is
about what if you have got going with the exercise,
what is it that's kept you going?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
What's your motivator?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Because there are a lot of people everyone, we're all
on in this constant journey all the time, and you
can turn in and out of these sorts of hours
and then suddenly something and you get engaged by it,
or you might have fallen off the wagon. What was
it that worked for you and then suddenly didn't work
for you? We want we want to talk about what
is your motivator to keeping healthy? And I mean, gosh,
that question about what's the what's the last time you
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felt great about yourself? It's quite a challenging question. I'm
trying to think how i'd answer that one. Actually, you
can give us a call. We'd love to hear if
you want to pick Kent's mind about about getting going,
or you're seeking some inspiration, maybe we can put our
heads together and help you out. Eight hundred eighty ten
eighty And also how much is time a factor in
you making a change in your fitness and your well being?
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I want to hear from you now over to you
twenty four past four Kent, and I'll keep chatting of course,
but if you want to join us, then that's the
number eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We'll be back in
just a moment. This is a weekend collective on news
talk z edb.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Yes, Yes, welcome back Tim Bever's work.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
This is a week in collective health up with Kent
John's what's your motivated? What helped you stick to your goals?
We want your calls on eight hundred eight ten eighty.
I will just say quickly that when I say eight
hundred eighty ten eighty, we had a few calls and
they all just wanted to talk my producer, and really
the aim of the game is talked about you actually
have to want to come on air and share your
stories and look, we're quite we're quite nice. I did
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see a few calls flash up and then my producer
Isaiah was like, they just.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Want to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I was like, okay, well not quite the name of
the game, but anyway, so we want your cause. Just
before we go to Matt Jason, somebody what somebody's just
asked that they're in the space you have described about just.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Being you know, unhealthy. What Yeah, and you talked about
creating space. Did that mean? What did that mean? That
mean leaving your job? What was creating space for you?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Look, I was.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Talking about creating space from I think a movement and
exercise position a little bit earlier. But I know when
I was really striking a little while ago, I had
to It's it's hard, you know, when you're in it, Tim,
I don't know if you've had those days or weeks
when you you just can't see much beyond your own existence,
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and it's it's a real battle, and it's a it's
a real struggle, and going through this, you're vaguely most
of us are, right, if we're vulnerable enough to talk
about it, most of us have been in that position,
and we know what it's like.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
It's for me. You know.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
What's a really good tool is to catch yourself and say, Okay,
what am I out of ten right now? Let's say
I'm a two, two out of ten? Bad day, bad day?
How do I get myself to a three? Because the
problem is we're all wanting to go from a two
to an eight, or a two to a ten.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
It's bloody hard to go from a two to a ten.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
It might take days, weeks, months to get there right,
But what can I do to help myself get to
a three? Is it to make myself a nice coffee?
Is it to go for a ten minute walk? Is
it to ring a mate? Is it a hot shower?
Is it to read a couple of pages of a book?
Is what is it that can help me just move
up the scale just a little bit?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I think that is one of the best bits of
advice I've heard for people who are struggling, because a
lot of the time people and we've got calls, we're
going to get them too it straight away if you're
sitting there holding the Thing I like about that is
that it's not I think a lot of people think
I've got to get my life order, and they look
at the whole picture and they go, oh, you know,
I need to probably be going to the gym three
or four times a week and doing all this, and
it's just such It's like it's like I'm sure that
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you know. It's like every masterpiece starts with a few brushstrokes,
and I just think for me, it was about the
simple goal was to put my shoes on and get
out the door. I didn't even think about the walk
all the run, just get the shoes on, and out
you go. Job done. In fact, that's sort of still.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
It's like going to the gym. I just get in
the car and I head to the gym. Job done.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Once getting the door, Well, what are you going to
do there? You're not going to sit there crocheting, are you?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
And when we're two out of ten, you're right, three
or four going to the gym three or four times
a week, that's beyond us. It's overwhelming. We're not going
to be able to manage that. But what if we
could put our shoes on and go for a walk
and get one hundred meters down the road and think,
you know what, since I'm out here, I want all
keep going. Yeah, five minutes later, we start to feel
a little bit better. And the other part to that,
tim also is to trust our experience rather than our thoughts.
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And what I mean by that is, you know, when
we're on the couch and where woe is me? The
victim mentality kicks and we're feeling like a dog's backside
and we just want to sit there and wallow. I
know that if I get up and go for a
walk or go for a run, I one hundred percent
will feel better, and I know that from past experience.
So now you're in that push pill, that push pull,
there's the tension. Do I stay on the couch feeling
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like rubbish? Or do I actually get up and move
knowing I will feel even just a little bit better.
And that knowledge is greatly helpful because I know therefore
that if I do move, even if I cannot get
to an eight, I'll probably get to.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
A three or a four, and that sure as hell
is better than a two.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I reckon right, let's take some calls.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Matt Gooday, Hey, you going to guys me by man? Yeah,
Tim knows. I've been on the journey over the last year,
lost twenty kilo's been walking. I've since bummed up from
six thousand steps a day to seven and a half
when I can. I didn't today because it was miserable.
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But I'm looking at going back to full time works
soon then, so time won't be as good as it was.
Like like you mentioned, but to take up running is
kind of a slight handicap with bad knees, and also
when you've got a bit of a pot gup that's
really hard to shake, feels like it's jiggling around if
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you you know, when you try and jog and it's
a bit awkward. Is there any way around just that
hurdle in your opinion?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Well, I think walk running is a good one. That's
an underrated one.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
As are you buying two together?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Well, sort of just walk and then run and then
get the you know, jiggle and ache and then stop
again sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
How I think? Yeah, No, I was just about to
say to them.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
A lot a lot of us think, oh no, people
are looking at us or feel bad if I start, Well,
what if you run on the flat in the downhill
and then walk the uphills like that is bloody good
exercise man, and you're getting it out and you're doing it.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
That's the way to combine the two.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Or else what you can do, Matt is maybe shorten
things up a little bit and do some exercises whilst
you're at work. It's called exercise snacking. So the reason
why walking is so good, particularly after a meal, that
helps with something called insulin sensitivity, and going for a walk,
even for ten or fifteen minutes can help the way
that the body metabolizes what we've.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Just had for lunch.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
If you can't manage fifteen to twenty or thirty minutes
because you're busy at work. Do a whole lot of
air squats once an hour, Do ten air squats once
an hour, do some pushups, do some sit ups once
an hour for six or seven hours. And the thought
is now, to believe it or not, that the benefits
from doing that are about the same as going for
a half hour walk, which is perfect for people that
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are in office jobs or who are busy and simply
cannot justify going out for twenty to thirty minutes at
a time.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Hey Matt, what are you walking? Did you say at
the moment still or no? I can't remember, couldn't remember
what you said? You're doing curardly?
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah? I walk every day?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
How fast?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Uh brief walk? Try and get the heart rate going,
you know, because my truck driver when I'm working, so
some of those exercises thanking a lot of time for
well half our break and stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
The reason I ask is because I got a friend
of mine who was over one hundred kilos who's been
he's gone on, he's got in touch with the NUTRITIONNIS
so sorting his diet out, and he's doing half an
hour of almost uncomfortably fast walking. But it's just brisk
walking every day.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
And he's lost.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
He's now under ninety kilos and all he's doing is
he's watching has died a bit. I wouldn't say religiously,
but he's walking his ass off literally, I think.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Is that what I went for one hundred and two
down to like eighty five eighty seven? I seem to
hover around there but doing well. Yeah, but it's just
the timing keeping it up for struggling to run is
what I'm trying to get it when it sort of
hurts your knees and.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
You know, I think the obvious answer is he doesn't
need to run, does he?
Speaker 5 (25:17):
No?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
I mean an exercise bike is quite good.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I mean physiotherapist they love bikes right because you're getting
on there.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
It's a hell of a good workout.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
You get your heart rate up real quick, and it's
non weight bearing and good for joint pain and reducing
inflammation tim So that's another option. Of course, the good
old cycle or swimming there of course is the time
constraints because you've got to get to the pool, you
go for your swim, you get out all that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
People need to figure.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Out how they can get the most out of the
time that they have available to move because it comes
back to just having to make the time for it.
And if we don't, if we're unable to make the
time tim then I can come up with one hundred
different forms of training where anyone can say, hey, do
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this or do that. But if you're unable to carve
out the time or make the time will make it,
then it's all rather pointless.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
The other thing, Matt, if you don't mind me saying, Matt,
because we've been chatting a while on talkback and you
know people that would have remembered your cause when we
we chatting at nighttime, and I think you've got to
give yourself a break and pat yourself on the back
because there was a time I think when you probably
went the happiest guy around. And I can tell from
what you've been doing fitness wise that you've you've made
major changes.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
You need to give yourself a bloody give yourself a celebration. Mate.
I think you're doing great.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Thanks work in progress, and someone else get on you.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Good on you, But seriously, yeah, good on you, mate,
I mean you do you've also, he just said, I
was over one hundred kilos.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Now I'm down to eighty five. I mean, bloody hell.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
Anyway, it's a journey rather than a destination. He's making
some great changes to me.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
And look eating well, watching what you eat and then
having the energy to move and then doing something with it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
There's there's the key to the kingdom right there.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Right, Chuck's going to brag about how good he is
at tennis. I think let's just check Chuck.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Hello, Hi, Yeah, yeah, I maybe one, and I played
tennis twice a week, and I know a few other
people my age and older that play regular And it's
a really good thing because it doesn't just keep you
physically fit, it keeps your mind active because you've got
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to think how strong is one of the opponents, like
when you're playing doubles, and if I do this, can
my partner help me out or whatever. So it's really
good mentally and physically.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
So you're thinking if you've got to partners a bit
slower than you, like I'm going to have to cover
the whole of the back corks the rint is about
three feet.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Yeah yeah, or they could be better as well too.
There's some you know in the club I played. There's
this woman played till she was ninety.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
How about injury, how do you mean?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean, how do you look after yourself with because
of an injury can slay down? There'll be a bit
of a nuisance, wouldn't I've been.
Speaker 7 (28:10):
I've been very fortunate because before I got into tennis
a bit more seriously, I used to run and with
a joggers club and I do half marathons and that,
and I'm very fortunate. Moneys are fine.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, good, and and at any as the motivation the.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Competition, oh well, it's we're not too competitive, that's the thing.
And we never it's a good good social clubs I'm
into and we never criticize your partner if they miss
a shot or if they take a shot when you
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should have got. We're not competitive like that. And then
after the games we socialize and have coffee.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
On that good stuff. Jack, you save the competitive stuff
that talk back good Yeah, okay, you on your Chuck.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
I'll tell you what that that's exactly he's just what
Chuck's described him as exactly what we do on a
Thursday morning at my tennis club. There are a lot
of gee sorry mates every weekday. Oh I should have
got there. Sorry man, No, no, you fine, It's okay,
don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I don't worry.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Look, if you if you just want to you know,
if you just want to not move, that's fine. You
just start at the front of the net there and
if it's if it's not reachable, don't worry. Don't you
run for that bathering gust. By the way, if you're
if you're a tennis partner of Chuck, and he has been,
he's been hiding his competitiveness.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Let us know.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We'll be back with Jenny
and Helen straight after this.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
It's twenty one minutes to five news talks. He'd be so.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I wonder if that might be Kent John's theme music
when he's working out. Make your work, make you burn,
make your sting, something like that. Anyway, we're talking about
your motivation with Kent John's and Jenny.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
Hello, Hello, Tim, Hi, I'm just sitting here listening and
enjoying your program. I don't want to ring up, but
I have to ring you up about motivation.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (30:23):
So I'm in christ Church and twice a week I
go up the hills. I live on the other side
of christ Church from the hills, and twice a week
I get in my car, drive to the bottom of
the hills, over the other side of town and climb
up to the sign of the Keyway all around there
for two or three hours. Now if motivation, I don't
think about it. If I thought about it, I'd find
(30:44):
every excuse not to go. But I get in my
car and just do it. Just do it, don't think
about it, just do it.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Is that well, this is partly routine, But I thought, no,
it's not wrong. You just get in your car and
then the job's done. As soon as you're in card
you're driving and you have to finish it off.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
Well, I look at my diary to see what's on,
so I don't say, right Tuesday morning I go up there.
It depends on what's on. But I make it my
business to go twice a week, and then I just
get in the car and go. If I thought about it,
I'd say it's too cold, too wet. I'm coming up
eighty seven and I walk up there. I have no
(31:21):
puffing and blowing. I sail straight up the steepest part
of the hills.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I'll tell you what Jenny. If I'm doing that when
I'm your age, that's awesome. So, I mean, Jenny's keeping
it simple asn't she kent. It's just I'm not sure
what his secret is.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Presumably, Jenny, you enjoy the walk.
Speaker 8 (31:37):
Well, I just do it because I know over the
years I've reaped the rewards. Now I'm so lucky. I'm
so agile. If I was walking on the flats, it
wouldn't do it for me. But it's the hills. It's
getting the heart rate up, and it just changes the
whole psyche for some reason once you get on the hills.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Are you one of those?
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Are one of those?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Are you one of those smug older people who passed
the sort of person half your age is puffing away
just like.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
No, I've always skied. Look, I've skied and tramped and
climbed and I skated and I've had that many injuries.
I was a mobile skier and you know what that's like.
And it's amazing. My knees touch wood, but honestly, my
legs are really really good.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Yeah, I think, actually, you've just kept active all your
life and then yeah, I mean, yes I have.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
And I would encourage people, but all I hear is
I haven't got time, or I'll make time. I'll go tomorrow.
You have to have it in the psyche. Not necessary
to make a plan, but just do it. Don't analyze
it and worked it all out. Well, look, I think
I'll go tomorrow afternoon or go. It's definitely just do it.
I think that's a huge one.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You're not sponsored by Nike, are you? Are there lessons
to be gleaned from Jenny just keep I mean she's
established an active lifestyle over decades obviously, just always been
outdoors doing things.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Yeah, look, I'm guessing she enjoys the walk, so even
when it's a little bit windy or a little bit rainy,
she knows she's banked enough mileage in her brain enough
experienced him to think, you know, this is good for me.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
So I'll continue to do so.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
And it's probably one of those things that she's found
that is protective of her health. So if we can
all find at least one of those, then we're ahead,
because then we can think, Okay, it might not be
the first my first choice right now to be doing this,
but I'm probably better off for having done it than not.
And so I think that that can be a motivator
(33:41):
for sure.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I have a friend who did one of the coast
to coast events. It was the one where it's a
two day event or something, and he said the low
point he was in his forties.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
He said a low.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Point came when he was passed by an elderly gentleman
who was singing to himself as he ran past. And
it's like, I almost wonder if that was the sort
of tactic he thought. The older girl is like, I
think I might sing a little song as I passed
this poor sap.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Why not hang on?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
What's the time? Thirteen to five? Helen? Hello?
Speaker 9 (34:11):
I used Hi, Tim and Ken. Now just a long
story which I won't I'll try and be brief. I've
got a progressive neuromuscular condition tous injuries. And when I
had this condition of mine, diagnosed years years ago, I
was dairy goat breader right and anyway, I was told
(34:33):
that I should keep farming as long as I could.
It was the best thing. Now I found that this
was very difficult because there was no support at all. Anyway,
I am still farming. I've had to change everything. I've
got some small acreage and I keep some few cattle
and that gives me some exercise. But I can't do
(34:55):
all the stuff that I keep being referred to, you know,
push ups, running, walking, I can't do any of that.
I've had to completely rethink every thing. And I do
everything mostly out of my car and along the fence line.
And I could do some stuff with I can have
held my balance, I mean balance is completely shot. But anyway,
(35:16):
I listened to these programs and I sort of feel
doomed because I can't do all the stuff that held
we have to do otherwise, you know. So I was
just when I was just wondering if you could actually
do a program for people with disabilities. It's a huge
(35:37):
topic of very wide and I don't know how you
do it, but that there must be something because well
I was.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Not a suggestion for us for now. Actually a.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Lot of awful lot of people with disabilities out there,
and I mean I really feel doomed. I mean I'm
trying kind of honestly that the neurologist was right, but
it's very, very difficult. But I'm kind of addicted to it,
you know, Like I mean I get out there and
then there are a whole hay around and stuff like that.
(36:07):
That gives me some fitness, but I can't. I'm quite disabled.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Okay, Helen, Look, we're short of time unfortunately, and you're right,
this is that would be a great issue for us
to address a program.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
On and I'll make a note to our producers about that.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Have you got any movement specialists bringing a movement specialist
some great idea?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, so, Helen, Yes, I'm sorry, I'm not sure what
we can advise right now, but we have been assuming
sort of able bodied, able bodied really and of course,
but there are plenty of I gather there are there
are plenty of people out there who can advise. I'm
not sure who they would go to, what sort of
organizations were exercising for disabled people.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Movement therapists, movement specialists.
Speaker 5 (36:48):
There are there are people out there who are well
versed in helping those of us that are not as
able bodied as we'd want to be.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
And hey, just before we go, we're going to quickly
come back with one more care but just one quick
text here. Somebody just has asked an interesting question, who's
hit the magic ten thousand steps that the likes of
the New Garment of set in place, and what should.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
You do if you're a bit older seventy.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I don't remember the name of the company.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I think it was either a Japanese or a Korean company,
caught a few year years ago, and they were wanting
to sell perdomitives.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
And it was just ten thousand, because we're obsessed, we're
fixated with teen.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I had no it didn't have necessarily any science. They
just like ten thousand. There's the magic number. Boom far. Anyway, Look,
we can try and doing a bit of googling if
we need to find any more. In the break it's
nine and a half to five news talks. He'd be yes,
great conversation about your wives and their motivation forgetting exercising.
I did mischievously put a call out to people to
if you played tennis with Chuck. There's a Texas saying
(37:48):
basically saying it that they were a member of Chuck's
tennis club. But just don't mention that you're a big
fan of Jacinda Adern when you're playing with him or
against them, and you'll be just fine.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
I think we could work that out there.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I think we could probably just guess that anyway, Sally.
Speaker 10 (38:04):
Hello, Hello, I've been diagnosed with a congestive heart failure.
Is it a danger putting my heart rate up?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Okay, Kent, mild heart conditions.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
I would talk h Yeah, I would talk to an
exercise physiologist about that.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, they can help.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
They can help reintegrate movement and exercise based on the
way that your heart's functioning.
Speaker 10 (38:34):
Right, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Have you sought any advice yet, Sally? Have you sort
have you had a chat with your doctor about this?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Have they give you given you any No?
Speaker 10 (38:43):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I just.
Speaker 10 (38:47):
I have a sedentary sort of life in my nineties.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Okay, Well, I would say definitely worth having a chat
with someone, and certainly don't go out and try and
do anything to extreme for sure. But you've asked the
question on National talkback. So there's your motivator. You've started
talking about it.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Talking about it. It's a good way to get going,
isn't it, Kent?
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Man, tell people, tell people what your aspirations are, because
that can help hold you accountable to what you want
to be doing and ultimately make yourself feel more successful.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Yeah, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
And actually this one that says gosh him. I'm sixty eight.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
My phone has just told me that this year I'm
averaging thirteen thousand steps a day plus plus a day
I walk kids to score and I walk a dog
twice a day. In fact, I've had a few people saying,
you want to get exercising by a dog.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Yeah, I've heard that too.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, it's not the strangest bit of advice.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Enough for me though, not enough to sway me to be.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
A dog and your cat man? Are you?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Oh die curious?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
And just the last one.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I thought we'd end off with a little love note
really from Lynde, says my husband walks and bikes. Mike
has done magnificently after all that he's been through. Well
done Mike regards Night Listener. I think that means love
Night Listener, unless the regards as for me, the loves
for Mike anyway.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Hey, great to catch that out.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Now if people want to catch up, we'll get a
bit more advice from you professionally.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Where do they go?
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Kent Kent John'shealth dot co dot m z' love to
hear from you. Thanks for having me, Tim, good to
catch up.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, great chat mate, and we'll be back, that's smart Money.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Max Whitehead's next talking about is it the money or
other things that keeps you in your job? What's the
most important thing in your employment? Back shortly, it's three
and a half minutes to five News Talk z ITB.
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