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August 10, 2024 39 mins

Today on The Panel, Tim Beveridge is joined by Kyle MacDonald and Niva Retimanu to discuss the biggest stories from the week that was. 

Reports of poor quality Paris Olympic medals, Christ Church Cathedral has government funding cut, the Interislander is out of action yet again, Woolworths staff have voted to strike over low wages, and more. 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from News Talks
d B had a very good afternoon. Welcome to the
Weekend Collective. This is News Talks and'd B. My name
is Tim Beverage, looking forward to your company over the
next three hours. In just a moment, it will be
my pleasure, as it always is, to introduce our wonderful
panelists for the afternoon for the next hour, but from
four o'clock, just looking a little further ahead for the
one roof radio show. At four we're joined by Ashley Church.

(00:28):
We're going to have a crack. We'll probably we'll have
a crack at someone. We'll have a chat about whether
the how does the equation for property look now, because
the difference between how much people are having to subsidize
their mortgages versus the income they're getting doesn't look so
flash these days. And we'll be having a chat, no doubt,
also about the Reserve Bank what they're up to, and

(00:49):
the Parents Squad. John Cowen joins us to talk about
how do you help your kids choose a career and
subjects at school? Asking for a friend actually, because we're
in that stage right now, because it seems like when
I was young, and I still remember being oh, you
have to make your minds up now when you're about
thirty ten years old. I'm still working out what I
want to do, and I'm a little bit older than that. Anyway,

(01:09):
that'll be at five o'clock. We'll be taking your calls.
You can text any time, of course, you feedback on
nine two nine two, and you know the number one
hundred and eighteen eighty after four o'clock. But right now
it is time to introduce my panelists. And look, we'll
just keep it nice and simple. He's actually quite a
nice guy, but we're trying to get him into angry
mode for the panel to this afternoon. He's well known

(01:32):
to our listeners. He's off and on our Health Hub
as a psychologist and also the host of Hosts and
Nutters Club at eleven o'clock on Sunday nights. And it's
Car McDonald. How are you, Kyle.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm very good. I'm not even slightly angry. I'm sorry
to say.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Actually, be curious to know what angry Carl McDonald would
look like, because there'd be the counseling part of you,
which would be sending you your little Jiminy Cricket on
the shoulder, going, remember Carl, maybe what you learned A
you're supposed to do this, don't repress it, do this,
express this.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
You know, I dare I point out the house painter's house.
I'm not sure that all people who weaken me to
the necessary really as Karma's that.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I just like, I think it'd been amusing to see
you just in one of those moments where maybe the
kids have driven you nuts, and you're like, I told
someone to do the dishes? What do I have to
do around here?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
It does happen. I think I think my kids described
me as a growley beer. When I get to that.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Point, even that sounds like a compliment. He's a growley bear.
I should have put that in my own troll so
that for that sounds like a great time. And my
next my next guest, who's such a professional that even
though she wanted to laugh at some of that band
are there, she kept it there because she knew it
would undermine my introduction. She's look, I've given up saying

(02:42):
how many times she's won awards, so I just say
she's she's won of she's won more awards than Lisa
Carrington has gold medals.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Just thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm great. I'm just just listening here. And this is
the first time I've met Kyle. I know who Kyle is.
I've heard you know, like on the Nutters clubinet, but
this is first time i've seen you face to face
it And when you were saying, oh, you know about
the beer, I thought, you know, cuddly beer, cudly lovely,
I'd say you.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Actually, I keep getting because I've clicked on a few
things on YouTube. I'm getting quite a few beer videos.
Because there was one really funny one. It's a massive
grizzly beers and somebody. They often go up against trees
to scratch themselves, but they go from this quite intimidating
looking animal and you just see them they're just scratching.

(03:33):
They go, oh gosh, that's good. That's good. And then
the next one has one, which was slightly more violent
video of eating another animal, and I was like, okay,
good reminder, they're not that safe. But of course, you know,
a grawley beer is as bad as you'd get, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Carl The irony I mean, I actually saw beers in
the wild years ago in North America and you don't
get out of your car when you see a family
of black beers. They are very dangerous.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, did you see more than one beer like at
the same like a family?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, yeah, on the side of the road in the
middle of the Yukon.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh it would be you could just stay in the car.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
And I remember thinking to myself, how good are be
is at climbing trees? They just sort of make their
way gently up And then so I put that into
the Google engine and literally the bears can sprint up.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Oh yeah, that's most quickly.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
It's insane. Anyway, that's nothing to do with the topics
we had today.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
That's not listed at all.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Hey, look, the Olympics are not over. They are almost over,
and we've got some amazing got some amazing events to
come up. But I'm really going to miss it. But anyway,
just the Olympics needs You are.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Obviously loving the Olympics, especially too because of the the time.
It's just perfect for newstalksz be for those who are
on early shift, you know, from five am. And you know,
and I've got to say big ups to our commentary
team that our commentators, all the sports boys here, you
know at Newstalks z B they have done a marvelous job.

(05:02):
I mean there's about nine of them. We all know
who they are, Jason Pine and Edwards and blah blah
blah blah blah blah they have blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah ah. Yes, but they just know
they just put you on that high when you're doing it.
It's a skill, it is, it's adam. Yeah, it's a

(05:23):
great skill to have. But you know, like I mean,
just on the when you think of New Zealand and
particularly with the girls winning with Lisa Carrington and everyone else,
and just the last few medals in the last few
days and the guys as well, I mean, you know,
it just puts you in a great mood. I think
this is where New Zealand we come together. We are
relatively a small country, but just even not from New Zealand,

(05:46):
but seeing everyone else on that global scale and all
the small African countries and the great stories and and
everything that's come out of those you know, the games,
but especially to you know, like one of these stories
that we're going to touch on is about the the
medals and the quality yet not yet or is it
not going to be Now we're going to touch on that,

(06:06):
but I wanted to.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, so I'm performances of you what aspects of it?
And I don't it doesn't have to be in New
Zealand performances.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
What the river has really upset me a lot.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I've got to say, you know, swimming.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
No, I'm one of the lucky ones, but a couple
of the I just thought, I mean, I know it's Paris,
and we've all been to Paris and we know how
lovely it is and it's the great setting for that.
But you know, with the scene and just how you
know the trithon, you know how the swim it was
delayed for a couple of days. I was rolling my eyes.
I thought, do you know what have a plan be?

(06:41):
I mean, we know, we know what the E coli
levels and I think there's a couple of athletes that
have tested positive for E coli and that, but that
kind of upset well.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I thought, you know what, that rolling lake looked pretty clean.
I don't know why they couldn't just run off and.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well that's what a few of us thought. You know
what couldn't have been somewhere else?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Actually I do. I do love the setting for it though,
how they've made the most of Paris for it, and
even the beat beach volleyball with the Eiffel Tower and
that's cool. Yeah, and the Hodel. I think the archeries
that hotel does Invalids is it which is in Paris,
and just the backdrops and Paris is the city. It
just makes me wish I could have gone, although if
you were there expensive for tickets. I think I heard

(07:22):
some guy on the news saying we played twelve hundred
euro for the today. That's for the main stadium and
the start de France, I mean. And the purple the Lila,
I love the sort of purple line looking.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
It must be amazing.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
For the sports.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
The the random sports is what I love, and especially
when we went a gold medal in a random sport
like Kinousulalem, who knew that was the thing that was
a great spectator sport Wars fantastic, But they get crowded.
Twenty thirty forty thousand, These are, you know, athletes who
have never performed in sort of front of crowdsat size.
It's fantastic, But I just want to give a shout
out to to Dame Lisa Kanington. It's not really enough

(07:55):
superlatives left. But if she wins tonight, she's going to
be on the same number of gold medals as the
same bolt, eight gold medal, eight gold medal. Bolt is
one of the great Olympians ever. But that's going to
be up there.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
She's a phenomenal athlete.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
She's the goat.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah. Actually it's you know, the thing that struck me
more than any I don't know if it's because I've
I look at it through a bit more grown up
now and I watch these things, but I think it's
also that how times have changed in the Instagram world
where everyone's a lot more connected, but the way the
way the athletes seem to support each other, regardless of
country rivalries and the sports men, sports personship, whatever the

(08:34):
word is in these days, that the generosity they have
towards each other. So, for instance, the one that stood
out for me was Amman du plantis the amazing Swedish
pole vault phenomenal and he had won the gold medal
and he was going for the world record, and the
silver medallist I think was in the American and his
other competitors were basically whipping the crowd up, come on,

(08:55):
encouraged us that they wanted to see him break the
world record, and that you know, it's the Hayde and
wild moment where he congraduately thanked the other guy and
the team for helping him get to a position where
he could have won old. And it just seems that
the goodwill generally has been from one of them. Yeah, wonderful.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
The camaraderie has definitely been there. And even on Friday morning,
you know when we're watching and you know the women's
Karen and was it Elise Andrews and her dad obviously
the coach as well, so that was fabulous that he
was their track side with her. But you know, I
was watching that just before I was reading the news
and I was I felt I was quite emotional, you

(09:34):
know because it was just such a lovely moment and
she had tears there and it was so great that
her father could be there as well. But you look
at these young people New Zealanders and and even Lisa
Carrington and the girls there that they hold themselves really well.
You know, they're young, but they're professional, they're really young
adults and and it's yeah, there is this love for

(09:57):
the whole teamwork. I mean that's when you look at
them and you see the New Zealanders and I feel
so proud because it is about teamwork. It's not just an.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Individual absolutely, and this related, but I really love the
stories coming out about New Zealand House, how it's thrown
its doors open and you know, there's no a lot
of other countries have sort of charged a fee to
go in and you know hang and embassies and stuff.
But has it just been you know, total manachitanger just
to turn up and watch some Olympics and hang out
with us something.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
It's great and we've got a we've got a big
twenty four forty eight hours coming up. Of course, we've
got the showdown between Amy Fisher and Lisa Carrington. That's
going to be you know, amazing over and a blink
of course, not as much of a blink as one
hundred meters of course, that really is pretty quick. And
Hamish Kerr is in the final four. I mean, if
we got a gold medal, If he does get a

(10:47):
gold medal, and look, you know anyone can win it
on the day, that would be a phenomenal achievement for
New Zealand to be you know, on the on the
gold medal side of things on the track and field.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
What's our meddle count at the moment.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I'd have to get got the last I saw sex.
I think we've got about sure exactly how many We've
got fifteen in total so far, so we could well
we will have. Let's face it, we're gonna have another
couple in the canoeing and if I want to count
the chickens, but I think have we counted that chicken
is going to get going on? Please? One? But wouldn't

(11:21):
it be rain in our parade if some you know,
muscular germ and suddenly zips ahead of it, Like what
the hell didn't see that happening? Anyway, that's great stuff. Hey,
but now we can get onto that one about the medals.
So the there's a the Olympic skateboarding medalist, Naya Niger,
I'm not sure how to pronounce his name, says as

(11:41):
Paris medal is not as high quality as you might think.
These Olympic medals look great, but whin they're brand new.
But after letting it this is the bit, after letting
it sit on my skin with some sweat for a
little bit and then letting my friends wear it over
the weekend. They're apparently not a quality as you would think.
I reckon he's just trashed as.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Metal as possible. It's a bit like when you get
cheap jewelry done and leaves green on your fingers, you know,
when you get one of these sort of cheap tarnishing rings.
May maybe it's just placed on the air.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's probably the one of the reasons why we've never
had an Olympics, and because the medals were just tarnish
and all.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
That must be the reason.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Budget I supposed to you know, like if you, yeah,
the bronze meddle, but I mean any medal I suppose
you know, like when you get that one, that award
or that medal, are you supposed to just gently put
it in a case and have, you know, and not
wear it.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Or I mean, what's like some of them are just
not taking them off, which I think is completely understandable.
You just probably sleeping it.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Or just just maybe have a layer. I mean, I
don't think i'd let a medal set against my skin anyway,
just for but.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
We're too old, you see, you're talking about young people.
They'll be just a nice open next shirt and it's
not over the yeah medallion open shirt.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Ah you know, I mean, of course it would never
touch my skin because of the massive thatch of thatch
of hair I've got on my chest to bring a
little bit neander Fel.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
The other thing too, is that you know what, if
you're a winning you've won a medal and you have
that round your neck, you get into things that are
for free over there in Paris probably as well. You know,
if you're a medal winner, they'll be going, oh, you
come on, have this for free or get store. So
it's actually why.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I was wondering what the rules are for the athletes
getting back, and because there are a huge number of
athletes there, because I saw Ryan Krauser was there supporting
a discus throw from another country, and he was like,
but I think he was there as as part of
a support crew. But there was another thing. There's an
American athlete, you know, cheiring for a native as he's
obviously got to know through the other from a different country,

(13:41):
and he was.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Just with track and the field. There's been a few
photos of some of the medal winning athletes that went
to the same colleges in America of course, because they
come up through the college system.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well, and if even the overseas athletes they get scholarships
to these kind of Houston and things like that. Yeah, boy,
I tell you what, some of those college games must
be pretty amazing to watch.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, anyway, a right, look, actually you know what I think,
come back and talk about some other stuff and just
a moment. Christ Church Cathedral looks like it's going I
do know what a mothboard cathedral looks like, but maybe
we're going to find out talk about that and some
other things as well. This is the panel on the
Weekend Collective. I'm with nivaretty Manu and Kyle MacDonald and
we'll be back in just a moment. It's twenty one

(14:19):
past three. Yes, welcome back to the Weekend Collective. This
is our panel with Niva Retty Marnhu and Kyle McDonald
and now on too slow away from the Olympics for
a bit, well probably for the rest of the panel,
be honest, because we have had a sports show as well.
But the christ Church Cathedral looks like it's going to
be moth bored after funding his cut from the government,

(14:41):
so the crowded already provided twenty five million. There's another
request for another sixty million dollars and it looks like
it's not forthcoming and it's likely to be mothboored. I
find it difficult to comment on this stuff, guys, because
you know, there's still a lot of emotions surrounding icons
like the christ Church Cathedral. But I have to say
I've never thought that as a building. It was particularly

(15:03):
blew me away, and I just thought they shoul have
taken the opportunity to build something really unique. But anyway, Kyle,
what do you think. Oh, look, I.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Think it's a bit of a shame. Really mean, it's
kind of the value of culture and history, really.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Isn't it.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
And I imagine for a lot of people it probably
is quite still quite distressing to see it in the
state that it's in, even after all this time from
the earthquake, I mean, interesting laugh. I know it's not
the nature Notre Dame Cathedral.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
But we christ Church as Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
But the rebuild of that was actually featured in the
in the admisshere of many of the Olympics, because they
didn't even question it. In Francis, they just literally rebuilding
it with the same techniques. That's so, you know, so
there's something about what your value isn't it.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
It's an expression about Yeah, I would I think you
can make an argument for Notre Dame being you know,
on the scale and size and everything, whereas and I
don't want to have a crack.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
At the christich Cathedral. But when you do go overseas,
you see one on every street corner just about in Europe.
And so it's not exactly like it's a distinct design.
It's sort of I don't know. I wish they had
I wish they had just done something within a budget
which was really unique, like the cardboard Cathedral. Okay, it
was always temporary, but it was actually architecturally probably quite

(16:17):
a bit more interesting.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
It's not insured, and there's a ridiculous practical question. But
was it not insured? Because it was insured, surely you
just rebuild it wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Actually my facts are missing on that. I just assumed
that it wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
I mean, look, the disappointing thing about this is that
it's it's a part of Canterbury, you know, it's a
part of christ Chuch. I mean, every christ Chach person
listening to this will be crying and you know they're
so disappointed. I mean, look, I don't go to Christ
Church that often, but when I do visit and have
been over the last you know, a few years while

(16:48):
it has been mothboard, the first thing you do is
you walk down. Then you say, oh, what's happening with
the cathedral? Where are they at? I mean everyone, every terrorist,
whether they're from New Zealand or whether they're overseas, you know.
I mean, so there is that history and christ Churches.
You know, the cathedral is part of christ Chute. But
that's a sad fact about this. But you know the

(17:11):
government has given a lot of money to it and
another twenty seven or no sixteen million, isn't it. That's
a lot of money when you know where everyone's crying,
poor and all these different sectors and what's happening at
the moment. You know, I just wish that there was
a there was a really there was a billionaire, There
was a Cantabriyan, there was a Canterbury billionaire who would

(17:34):
just be able to shed this money and give it
to you know, for the cathedral. I mean, this is
a problem where it's it's not real it's not a
public place, is it. And that's part of the problem
what the government is saying that, Look.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
There's got to be a solution somewhere. It's just that
the rebuild idea is dead in the water now. They
have to find something else to do. And maybe that's
where creativity and ingenuity and everything come in. I would
hate to think that it just becomes an empty space.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Well it cut?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, Well, I mean the Anglican Church is not sure
coin is it? Oh that's right locally? No, right, Maybe
it's time to go knock on the.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Archbishop of Canterbury's door something for one. That guy is
actually the one in England? Is it a woman now?
I'm not sure, but that wasn't really part of my research.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
They got a stack of money somewhere.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yes, and even have to go down to the you know,
like the next option of the cheaper option of you know, like, okay,
how can we get this going in shave off?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Well, just just redesign it and have something different. It's
got to be doable somehow, says he with no knowledge.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
But I tell you what I do.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I do know how to screw on a sheet of
jib and to do the plastering and caving.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
But you go down there, we'll get a scaff We
can do it between us.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Could you imagine I've already got the name for our company,
what Growley Bear and cove perfect.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
I was going to say dumb and dumber. She can
really dish it out.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I still love you. I'll never say any negative until
we're off here. Hey, speaking of icons, though the inter
the inter Islander does seem to is it cursed? I
believe in curses. I'm pretty sure you don't believe in curses.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
But if you don't, think it would depends on whether
you consider it underfunding to be a curse.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Well, but that's it's doesn't seem that it's an issue
of fairy choicement. And it looks like just somebody, somebody
drove it into the war.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
How many nineteen sixty eight carolas are still on the road.
I mean, eventually, things we're out to and this is
the thing you trade and you get a new one.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, yeah, I think if it manages to birth successfully
every time, it sounds to me like Operator Air. In fact,
even the ground thing was Operator Era. It turns out.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Do you look when I heard this story, A couple
of days ago. I was screaming and then I was
laughing hysterically because I thought, this is just, I mean, pathetic.
What what could we could do a better job trying
to drive that?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
I give it a cracky I.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Think that could be this that could be the subject
of some sort of d I Y series this week.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
The thing that maybe laugh was in the story it
says whilst docking in strong winds and I'm like, well,
surely that would be part of the job.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
And the other part that was really funny was at
a teddymate low speed, low speed contact low speed as.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Opposed to it would come steaming up for another.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
I mean, I don't think it surprised anyone when they
heard that story on the news. It's like, well, of course,
you know, when hasn't it flippin' you know?

Speaker 1 (20:49):
I just love that. Some of the big stories recently
about things that have made a big difference to the
way effecting New Zealand is going about getting from a
to B or their way of life have generally been
operator era. I think the grounding turns out that that
was to do with operator error, what to do with
taking it off autopart, and it even goes back to
those that pilot in Northland where they just didn't they
unscrewed all the nuts.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Maybe that's right.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Maybe some of the old cars that don't have the
backing cameras, maybe we need to sort of just get
some aftermarket sensors and put them all around the outside
of the ferries. Who starts beeping at them closer to stuff?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Did I think people that I hear Mike being hassled
about dinging his car even though he has reversing cameras.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
But I wonder how I go with low speed content.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
I'm sure it was. Yeah, I wonder how I would
go without my reversing cameras now, because I really do
rely on you've.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Got reversing cameras.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, last time I jumped in the car with no
reversing camera and need he backed into something because I
was I wasn't even looking back. Start you just start reversing.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well, I don't have reversing cameras, and I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Good, what are you driving?

Speaker 3 (21:53):
What? Tina?

Speaker 1 (21:54):
The Tita? Really? Actually, isn't it funny? I just assume
everyone's got reversing cameras unless you've got a classic car.
And I'm not sure and Tita has quite made it
to that that's data.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Tell you what, I'm a great driver.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
I still keep you that's all right.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
You always got to be aware of people who claim
that they are good drivers. I always think that's a
bit of a warning sign. Now Wayne Brown is looking
for control over at good Old Way to be handed
back to the council. He's sick of being blamed for
things that he doesn't control, and he said that AT
has had twelve years of complete independence.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
I've got I'm on Wayne's side, me toood on you.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
When was the lastening here on the show? I was
talking to you about Sydney. The infrastructure and public transport
over there is so integrated and well run. And I'm sorry.
I mean, I get we don't have as much. Sorry,
we don't have the resources. But AT, I mean, come on, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I think the problem. I think that we just see
so many things that with AT, and it's just like
why that you just want someone else to run it?
And so for that reason I'm sort of sympathetic to
it as well. But then if you look at Wellington Council,
would you want them running the transport or the transport there?
I don't even know if they do. Actually, but because

(23:10):
they don't seem to be rocking and rolling with a
few of their key issues, and they couldn't even make it,
make their minds up with it to get rid of
the speed bumps on Thornton Key that walking out of
a meeting.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
So take it over, take over or fully funded, get
people off the roads. I reckon free public all Auckland
residents included in the rates and free go.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Big core sense like you. You could have even been
a candidate for the Green Party.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
What it might have happened once?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Stop it but no, Actually, Kyle, probably in the last
year or two might have been the time to stick
your hand up because they did seem to have a
bit of an attrition.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Rate there they did. Yeah, no, there might have been
a slot, but no. But seriously, I mean, it's one
of those things, isn't it where we look at public
transport and when it actually works in a city like Sydney,
it's tremendous. You don't even think about it. It's it's
one card and I think you can just swipe your
fone to get around and you do pay to get around.
But it's also capped, which we took a while to

(24:10):
figure out we started jumping on something and it wasn't
charging us, and we went, oh, we must have hit.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
And they turn up at least the trains and the
buses turn up. You know, they don't if they're trying
to close down all these streets and want us to be,
you know, leave our cars at home. You can't do
that unless you've got a flipping great you know, transport system,
and we don't. And I'm with Wayne Brown here, I
think you know, at has had twelve years, twelve years independence,

(24:35):
haven't done a thing, hasn't been successful. Wayne does get
the blame for it. He's quite right, get them out,
move on, change the law.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Yeah, actually I'm surprised that. So when we went to London,
I was impressed that you could just as long as
you use the same use the same credit card basically
once you get on the buses or you know it
just it's got a maximum fear, it charges you depending
on what zone you're in, and just away you go.
And that's it. And it seems that we're still going
with the I think we.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Are going to go coming in, it's coming and going
at the end of.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
The The one change I'd make it's reversing cameras on
the bus.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
And it was a lessoner. It was something I was
surprised at in Paris. But and maybe for some of
the shorter intersections, you know that the little man goes
flash and there's the countdown. Here, you've got about thirty seconds.
You could literally crawl across the road and back by
the time that the lights change. In Paris, it's like

(25:30):
eleven seconds. Move it, move your butt, and it's like
just not just speed everything up there again, come on,
and but.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Tom, for goodness sake, I mean, I've waited at the lights,
you know, in the car, and I know exactly what
you mean. But people here they walk so slowly. Everyone's moved.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
They can you give them ten seconds? Watch seconds?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Is we need thirty seconds because most Aucklanders take that
long or longer to get across the streets.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I bet you're one of these people who does the creep.
You'll creep around the corner, start to signal you sort
of yeah, creep right up to the pedestrian crossing.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Woudn't you just oh no, I'm quite friendly. Actually, I
should actually say, by the way, if anyone's listening, and
if it saves any lives. Please people take your no
because I actually almost almost was involved in an accent
where a pedestrian ran out in front of me and
if I'd hit them, they would either be in hospital
or dead. And she was standing at the side of
the road with a friend. She had a hoodie on

(26:25):
and I could tell from that she was on her
phone talking to someone with their earphones in. And I
think I would guess she was an overseas person because
she looked in the wrong direction and she literally just
ran straight out in front of me and I it
was funny because I was watching going I hope this
person's not going to run across the road, and all
of a sudden she sprinted. I slammed on my brakes
and horn and swerved and I have no idea how

(26:47):
I missed her, and she just carried on running across
the road. But I think she's probably running and going home.
You know that adrenaline had kicked him, but just take
those bloody things off and should be drying.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Would would not have hit that wolf?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, well maybe that's the defenses of the wolfs jumped
out and I have no idea anyway, Hey, look, we'll
come back with some more stuff with that wonderful panelists
Car McDonald, Never Ready Marnu and Tim Beveridge. Is the
week In Collective. It's twenty two minutes to four news
talks enp Ah. Yes, Hello, welcome back to the Weekend Collective.
I'm Tim Beveridge and this is the panel Never Ready

(27:26):
Many with Carl McDonald actually just in the background. I
know it's not live obviously because we get in the
delayed coverage. But the artistic swimmings there's a bit of
a highlights thing and it used to be called synchronized swimming,
but even just by the branding artistic swimming, but they
are I must I don't know how they hold their
breath for so long. But of course, and you'd need
that peg on your nose, wouldn't you, Kyle, when you're
going upside down?

Speaker 2 (27:47):
I can say from doing the old headstand in the
backyard pool, were you definitely need a peg on you.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I think that, you know, just actually, let's not digress
too much, but you know how we've all got. I
like the idea that sometimes you if what would your
Olympic sport be if you had your time again, or
you could have a crack at something. What would you
ever go at? I'm guessing synchronized swimming wouldn't have been
would be talked to lest neither have you thought what
you'd have a crack at?

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, no, we've had this conversation the house actually shot
put or hammer. I quite like the idea of the hammer.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Hammer you look like a hammer thrower.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I like the idea of being able to really get
that chain going.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Yes, well, I you know, just in the break I
was you did the Paris Marathon. I did the Paris Marathon.
But the only problem is I would come last.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah. It's something with the prospect of success success, What
do you reckon?

Speaker 3 (28:39):
I mean, I have to think about that. The success
would be to finish it. Yeah, absolutely, but that would
be successful for me if I finished.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
It doesn't matter if you come last. You can always
call yourself an Olympian. That's kind of call.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's the one I for thinking, Kyle,
I love that or.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Skeet shooting, Oh yeah, yeah, or both at the same time.
That'd be fun and that would be a new event.
You would be in a boat moving along and pop
a couple of ducks out of the all they the
vegans wouldn't go for that.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Have they got fencing? Have they got fencing?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (29:10):
I see, I've always wanted to be fencer, but I've
never tried it, so.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
A lot of hypotheticals today.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
I've never picked up a hammer either. If there's any consolation,
you mean a hammers and like a hammer chain.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Actually they I reckon it'd be fun to have a crack,
but I'm just worried i'd kill someone in practice. You know,
you need to let it go at the wrong time.
You need those.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
And they wouldn't want to do it at your local park.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I bet your people do go and practice. You'd have
to be like anyone more than three sixty degrees more
than a closer than fifty meters. Anyway, right onto more
serious things. We're worth staff for striking for more pay
after their jobs have started coming well, one of the
arguments that they're basically striking for more pay, But they
are talking about the amount of risk with ram raids
and just the general safety of people who work in

(30:03):
retail at steak. It's difficult to comment on this sort
of stuff because I think that people in those jobs
who are forward facing, you have to deal with. I
mean everyone, they deal with wonderful customers and they deal
with the worst as well. And I don't know how
you recognize that in a paython Kyle.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Oh yeah, hey, so I reckon solidarity with First Union
remember when they were essential workers. Yeah, and then COVID
finished and everyone put their payback down again. All they're
asking for is living wage. And the other thing about
this is, you know, to here's a.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Number for you.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Four hundred and thirty million dollars a year was what
com com, the Commerce Commission came up with excess profits
of the two great big grocery companies. They are creaming
it and well, what happened to actually just sharing a
little bit with the people who are down on the
on the shop floor actually may helping you make that money.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
What do you reckon theaves?

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well, I think they're also saying too that will wars.
They start the starting rate is twenty four dollars ninety three,
and then they're looking at Costco the new staff for
getting twenty seven an hour. And I know you're always
kind of like comparing, but I mean, you know that
speaks volumes in itself. I mean also two with the
whole security. This is okay, it is allways, but it's

(31:16):
all supermarkets. I mean, it is not safe. I feel
for those guys, for the staff there. I mean, we
know that crime has gone up. People going in the
air and are stealing. I mean, and you know the
staff can't deal with that.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I mean, you know, sorry, Cam.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, I mean, all these issues are there. I mean
one of my neighbors was saying that she was at
the supermarket last week and she said, oh, for goodness sake,
she said, someone went in with the suitcase. We've heard
of all these stories where people go in and they
have full trolleys and then they start running out. That's
just that happens daily. And when people are in there,
you know, no one is a customer. I wouldn't run

(31:56):
after them because.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Well, actually the thing is that that's an argument against
them getting more paid, because they're told just to let
people just if someone's going to steal something, don't don't.
Well they've told they were required to stop them and
have a confrontation. Then you'd be I reckon, they should
just give all the they should give the security guys
and girls. They should just give them, you know, extra
powerful tasers. Anyone that packet of nuts. You paid for it? No,

(32:20):
I thought, you said, you're a nice guy.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I am, he's not coming down.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Work as the tools they need to taste people.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I thought when my neighbor was saying that she was
sore that this person had the suitcase and was throwing
in stealing food and throwing it in a suitcase, I thought, God,
are the days you know when yoused to take a
little we handbag. Not that I did, but people would go, oh,
you know, just put a you know, like a beg
of chips in a little we bag or try to
steal that.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Well, that's well, would they do that if they knew
that a taser was waiting for them at the exit?
I suspect not.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Well, they might turn up with a shotgun. See, this
is the problem to I do think, just to be
serious for a moment, I do think there was such
a thing as social license too. And I think that,
you know, when we talk about the big corporates that
are actually creaming it our expense, a little country that
doesn't necessarily have the ability to create as much competition
as would be needed, I think this is a great
opportunity for worlworst to say, Okay, we're going to come

(33:16):
to the party and we're going to recognize that we
are making a lot of money, and we're going to
share that around a bit. And I could also.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Share it around with their customers who pay through that
duopoly exactly.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
This is the thing I think eventually, when you're a
big corporate you do start to lose that social license
and people start getting a bit peed off with you.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
I'm disappointed that old Steven Tindalden managed to put together
that detail to turn the warehouse into a third supermarket chain.
But who knows, maybe someone with more money than sense
set up a third supermarket.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Maybe we should start up our own supermarket in the
cathedral once we've renovated.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yes, Growley Bear Supermarket supplies. Quickly, go get that internet name. Look,
tell you what. Let's come back, because there is actually
another sporting occasion coming up, which I'd completely forgotten about
out because we're all focus on the Olympics. But there
is actually an all backs test. We might have a
little bit of a chat about that in the moment,

(34:10):
whether anyone's actually going to be happening to set their
recorders and remember the time. A lot of forty four
mil Oh yeah, I've got the right numbers, hopefully, fingers
crossed eleven and a half minutes to four News Talk
said b it's welcome back. This is the weekend collected
the panel almost almost the conclusion of the panel, because
time flies when you're having fun with car MacDonald and

(34:31):
Nivaretti Marnu. Anyway, looking ahead to sporting occasions, there is
another I'd forgotten completely guys that we have a Test
match coming up tonight at five past seven and against Argentina.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah I had. I'm just a bit of a rugby
tragic so oh you have. I'll be flicking. I'll be
flicking backwards and forwards between.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Them Wellington and Wellington, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
I still I didn't even know where.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Park next week?

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Okay, well Argentina again next week. Isn't just checking? See
this is how this test. I've been with the.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Olympics, I know, but I think everyone everyone's we should.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Won't be interesting though. It's a pretty young team. The
couple of young locks, Sam Derry and.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Well let's do yeah, are you tell us? I think
we will still do that home territory. I think so
I should do the out of Dog's Dinner.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
TJ and Ardie are both playing at home effectively, although
Artie's coming up to more Iner pacifica now. But I reckon, yeah,
twenty plus.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
It should be a sellout, shouldn't it. I hope so
Wellington Wellington are pretty good though, you know these dating
and they all come out for.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Them, were you guys? Somebody was saying that they looked
at the Auckland Wellington in PC last night.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Or something on TV. I was going to pop down
to Eden Park but it was a bit cold, but yeah,
there wasn't a lot of people there.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
How many were that? Did you see anyone on TV?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah? Well, because they only have the one stand going
for the NPC these days, so it always looks a
bit sparsely populated. But yeah, I hope it's to sell it.
I think there's still tickets available for the Eden Park game.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Really Okay? Wow? Look, well they've won what it says here,
they've won thirty eight of their forty one previous matches
against Argentina. Well, probably the ones that they haven't won
a probably more recent to be honest. Argentina's pretty they
got there.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
They haven't been anyone in Wellington since twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Who hasn't Is that true? Are you sure that sounds
like a dodgy stat It doesn't. It sounds like a
very dodgy staut. Very well, we will fact check that
when we do out, when.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
We will tonight for forty four million, I've got a ticket.
The interesting headline nice twenty five dollars twenty Usually I
only spend like twenty dollars between a lot of twenty
five dollars from an.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Interesting headline that I saw is that if one person
wins it, it will be the biggest win because every
time it's got really big, it's off and been split,
which I do like the fact that last time it
was fifty millions, there were seven people got seven and
a bit many.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, that's nice.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Open. The trick is, if you win, just don't tell anybody.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
I'd find it really hard.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I don't tell them. I just carry on, would you yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Would you carry on working?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I would?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Actually, you know, I'm actually my My partner asked me
that this morning when we woke up and she was
buying a ticket online. She said, would you keep working
on that?

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:04):
I might sort of do day through.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, but I love my job.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
I think i'd get bored.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I think it would quickly become Tuesday through Tuesday, in
other words, the same day.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Week. We could fix the cathedral, you.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Know you couldn't You can make a start.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
You'd give money for charity to charity.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
You want to start a trust or something when you
help people out.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Oh yes, yeah, I like to think I would handle
that money in every respect very well, which is why
I should win it, and i'd be mister generosity.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Well, if I won, I'll take you two out for dinner, beautiful.
We'd go to subway.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
We'd have to wonder why you were paying.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Could we go to a subway in Paris? We could
go there.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
We could we.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Could go to the restaurant that Serena Williams was complaining
about being turned away from. And she she she sort
of said, I've been denied entry because even though there
were empty tables, but it was the Peninsular Club and
everything was booked up. It's like, yeah, quite glad there
were restaurants. So I don't care who you are. You've
got a book, you know, a see you late in
the sunshine.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Although it sounds quite French to say we don't.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Care you in fact, I'm probably a selling point. Guess
who we turned away the other day. We were so busy. Anyway, Hey,
nice to see you guys. Nive's got anything interesting looking
forward to apart from bluing yourself to the TV.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
No, that's why I'm here today. I've got no life today,
I've no friends, so I thought, you know what, I've
got time to come in today.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I've just got to get out of the building. Some
pressure air, that's right, and of course car people can
catch you on another slope.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, we'll be back eleven pm tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Excellent. Hey, thanks for coming on so much, guys, and
for being part of our panel, and we'll be back
for the one roof radio shows next. Ashley Church joins
us to discuss whether the end equation for property investing
is not so appealing as it once was. It's now
three and a half minutes to four News Talk Because EDB.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
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