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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We need to talk conversations on wellness with Coast FMS
Tony Street.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hello, welcome to We need to talk. When you think
of wellness, what comes to mind? Perhaps it's the physical,
whether you're getting enough cardio for heart health, lifting weights
for strength well, maybe it's pilates and yoga for flexibility.
Or maybe you think of your mental wellbeing. Are you
stressed out, are you practicing positive self talk? Do you
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have anxiety? Are you depressed? But have you ever considered
soul wellness? I certainly hadn't, but it's a term that
I stumbled across during one of our shows on Coast
Breakfast Radio, and today we have astrologer Deirdre Wilton to
explain what it is and how it can actually improve
our lives. Dedri, it's lovely to have you here. The
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term soul wellness was very new to me. What does
it actually mean?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So your soul is the part of you that is everlasting,
and so we need to keep it well and healthy
because it's kind of the director behind everything. So when
we're ignoring our soul and not looking after it, then
we're two caught up in our heads and we're making
all of our decisions and taking actions only based on
logic and practicality, and we're ignoring what we feel and
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what directs us and what inspires us and what fulfills
us in life.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
So when we ignore.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
The soul and we don't look after it, we often
find ourselves very unhappy and very unfulfilled, and living lives
that are sort of only only half complete because we're
only honoring or looking after one part of us, the
logical part of us, and not the soul, which is
the part that inspires us and guides us and looks
after us in the background.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So soul wellness does this apply to people that perhaps
don't believe that our souls are reincarnated, because we'll have
people listening to this that believe that when you die,
maybe you go to heaven, or when you die, you die,
and that your soul isn't reincarnated. So is soul wellness
still relevant to them?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yes, absolutely, because it's still that part of you. It's
the link to your intuition or your gut instinct or
whatever you want to call it. So when we're you know,
as I said, if we're only operating on that logical,
practical side of ourselves, we're not really honoring the creative
side of ourselves, the intuitive side of ourselves, and that
deep part of you that there is here to be
fulfilled because you know, as I believe it, we're here
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to learn things. Every lifetime we come here, if we
believe in reincarnation, we come here to learn new things.
Your soul wants to learn so it can grow, and
it can expand and it can evolve. So it's sort
of looking after you in the background. But if you
ignore it, then you find yourself repeating things and doing
things the hard way all the time, when there's always
this easier sort of little voice on your shoulder saying, hey,
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you could look at it this way, you could not
stress out about it so much, you could rise above it.
But instead we get very stuck in that no pain,
no gain kind of attitude.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So how do we know if our souls are unwell?
What are the telltale signs?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You would find yourself very stuck in your head, so
all the decisions you made, everything you did in life
was very much completely based on practicality. Like an example
of that would be all your life, you've done a
particular job, and you've done that job because you're good
at it, but you kind of get to a stage
up you've done it for maybe ten or fifteen years,
that you realize, yes, I'm very good at this job.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It gives me the lifestyle.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
That I want, It pays my bills, It ticks all
the boxes practically, But I'm miserable every day I go
to work, and I feel that there must be more,
There must be something else I can do, some sort
of joy or fulfillment I can get from my daily life.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
But I'm not getting it.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
And that's a very good indication that your soul is
not being locked after you're only looking after the logical,
practical humanness of yourself rather than the part of you
that really wants to help.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
You and inspire you, get you to grow in a
different way.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And I think when it comes to people that you know,
friends or family members, generally you can tell which people
are sort of more in touch with their intuition and
their feelings and some, you know, they just get on
with it type of people and perhaps don't have that connection.
So how do we get it if we fall into
that latter category.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Usually what happens your soul is constantly sort of nudging
you and encouraging you to look at things a little
bit differently, or to honor what you feel in a situation.
So often those sorts of people already switched off to
what they feel. They don't put enough emphasis on being happy,
and as you talked about before, that mindfulness and looking
after yourself on that deeper level, they're just going with
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what's presented themselves. There's sort of like robotic in some
ways that they're not a living what they feel to
blossom and grow. And the main reason for that is
usually fear. People get very scared of change or scared
of stepping out of the box, or stared of doing
something different. But your soul will always encourage you to
change and evolve and do something different.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
But it's whether you allow.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yourself to kind of feel the fear and do it anyway,
or whether you allow that fear to stop you from
listening to the soul and listening to its encouragement to
go in a different direction or to do something in
a different way.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Do you think the fast paced world that we live
in currently, where busyness is a thing for so many people,
we have so much choice. I guess there is an
expectation that you are achieving and you're doing all these things.
Do you think that can be a factor in us
losing our connection to our soul.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
We're so conditioned to be productive, you know, we're really conditioned.
If you're not doing something with your time, or not
producing something or making something, then you're.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
A waste of space.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So and that's very hard on the soul because the
soul understands that a lot of time in life we
need to be still, or we don't need to chase
after things, or we don't have to be going at
one hundred miles an hour every day because, as we know,
when we're still and we're quiet, you know, we're more peaceful.
We get in touch with the deeper side of ourselves,
and we get to know what we really want and
what we really want to do on that deeper level.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I feel like you're speaking to me right now because
I am one of those people that are very busy.
And what I find and you might be able to
relate to this if you're listening and you are a
bit like me. Look, I'm a busy mum of three
kids and they're doing a lot of things, and I've
got my own work, and so I am busy I
guess it's my own fault, but I also know that
I need to stop and be still sometimes. The problem
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I have is that when I do, I actually struggle.
I struggle because I am so used to being busy
that I almost feel uncomfortable when.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Rightly I am still. Yeah, because we feel like we're
doing something wrong.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I'm not producing anything, I'm not being useful, then I
must be you know, I must be doing it all wrong.
But really we don't allow ourselves. We need time to
be quiet. We can't constantly be switched on.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
If we're switched on.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
All the time, it's like it's like a light that's
on for all the time, it's eventually going to blow
the ball because it can't sustain that. So we have
to allow ourselves at times to be still, to allow
the soul to take over and just allow us to
just be.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Is there anything you would recommend then to get better
at the stillness?
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Is there?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I don't know daily things you can be doing. Is
it a change in mindset? Is the practical things we
can do?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yes, we definitely meditation. That's something that you know always
calms the mind, and a.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Lot of people do struggle with this.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So if you're listening to this and you do struggle
with meditation and think, oh, I've tried that and it
doesn't work for me, my recommendation would be to try
guided meditations where you're working with someone who's actually taking
you through a process or a story, and so your
mind then cannot go off and start thinking about what
it's going to have for dinner that night and what's
in the fringe.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
It's going to stay listening to the.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Person that's directing you throughout the guided meditation. So when
we meditate, of course, we allow ourselves to be still,
and for some people actually meditation can be swimming or
running or doing things like that.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
It's just when you're getting out of your head.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
And getting out of that constant thinking, analyzing, wondering all
of that, and actually just allowing what you feel and
what you're doing in the moment to be more important
than all the things you've got planned, all the things
you think you should be doing.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
You're listening to we need to talk with Tony Street.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
How does it improve our life? Then if we are
able to switch from being disconnected to our soul to
fully in touch with it, you.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Will always feel supported. You will always feel like you're
doing the right thing, and you'll always know that you're
looking after every part of you. So we've got sort
of our higher self energy, which is your connection to
your soul, and then our ego energy, which is the
connection to the humanness of us. And so many of
us are very stuck in that ego humanists because of
being so busy all the time.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
But when you switch over and.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Allow that higher self soul energy to come in, then
you allow yourself peace. You allow yourself a day off,
You allow yourself to sit down and stare out the
window and.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Look at your beautiful garden for a while.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
You allow yourself that because you understand that it makes
you feel good and it makes you feel rested, and
we forget what that feels like to actually just slow
down and stop and smell the roses.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Technology doesn't help with that either, and it worries me
actually for the next generation coming through. My eldest daughter
doesn't have a phone yet, but she's at the age
where a lot of her friends are getting them, and
it's inevitable she will end up getting one. But what
can we do, you think, as parents to try and
raise soulful children.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Keep them away from their devices, well, not as much
as possible, but you know, to limit that time so
that they still enjoy other things. I mean, if we
think about when we were growing up as children, we
spend a lot of time outside playing. We spend a
lot of time, you know, making things with our hands
and using our imagination. And when we're doing that, the
soul is fully activated because it wants to create. It
wants to kind of allow you, without being directed by
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a machine or something else, to actually follow what you're
being drawn to, to allow yourself to feel things and
allow those feelings to be what guides you over and
above your logic.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
How does the soul connect to gut feeling? Because the
gut and gut health is a huge buzzword and wellness
at the moment, and I think we're all learning that
if we have a healthy gut, then that absolutely helps
with us both physically and mentally. How does the gut
and the soul connect.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
The gut and the soul connect because they feel things.
So when we talk about gut health, that's a little
bit different because that's more of a sort of a
nutritional thing, and that is, of course, it's extremely good
for us and will keep us a lot better if
we pay.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Attention to that.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But the soul is more connected to how the gut
feels in a situation. So, for instance, often it is
very much about fear where you might really want to
do something, and your soul will be in the background, going,
come on, give it a go. You know you might
be really good at this. You know you've practiced this before,
You've got a little bit of experience. You could take
it further. But your logical brain is saying, oh, no,
you can't do that. You're just going to fail. You're
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going to look stupid. You know, people won't respect you,
whatever it's saying. And we've got to allow that soul energy,
that gentle energy in the background, to just override our fear,
because are you probably being We could all think of times,
and especially you being a virgo, Tony.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
One of the challenges for being a.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Virgo is you can be very fearful of anything that
you think you might not be good at and so,
but your soul would say, give it a go, go
and try. You might be really good at this, but
your logical mind's going, oh no.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
That won't work. That could make me look really silly.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
So what's the worst that can happen? I guess it's
trying to override that, isn't it. Have you seen examples
of people and your work and people around you where
they have managed to become a lot happier because they
have practiced these types of things and they have connected
with their soul and it's been a great outcome.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Time and time again, I come across people who are
you know, they come to me and they're ready stuck.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
They have a career that they're.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Very successful out, they're doing really well at it, but
they're unhappy. They're miserable, and they don't understand why, because
they can feel that their soul in the background is
going try something new. You know, you always wanted to
be to be a ballet dancer. Why don't you go
and experience that or try that? But their logical mind's going, oh,
I'm way too old to do that now, and that's
never going to happen. But you know, when they do
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actually face that fear and push it out of the
way and try that new thing that's been driving them background,
or their souls been calling them to, they find so
much joy. And especially I've noticed with people very much
stuck in careers where I think we often get our
education leave school and there we feel that whatever we've learned,
we need to keep doing that for the rest of
our lives because that's where we put the end education
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and the learning in and we're too scared to change
and do something completely different. So I often come across
people who are in sort of in their forties to fifties,
and they've been very successful, done something for a long time,
but they finally got to that age and realized that
midlife crisis age about thirty eight to forty two, that
they're miserable in what they do and that there must
be more. It's got to be more to life than
just getting up every day and going to this job.
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Even though it pays my bills and ticks the boxes,
I'm not happy. And the soul then overrides that practicality,
and if you're brave enough, you step into serving something
completely different. And I've seen so much success with people
even more successful than they were before, because not only
are they doing something different, but they're doing it with
so much joy and so much passion that you cannot
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not be successful if you follow what your soul directs
you to.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It's so interesting because I feel like we saw some
examples of that during COVID, where people were forced to
change their careers and then they said, I'm so much
happier than I was before, and it was this pandemic
that caused it. But actually they probably should have switched
careers before COVID hit the shaws, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, but this is where you know, people so often
we don't react or act, we're backed into a corner.
We don't realize that actually, at some stage you can
make that choice. You don't have to wait till all
the chips are down and you know everything's gone wrong
that you finally change then.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
And we're always been nudged.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I mean, I think a lot of those people that
made those major changes, they would have experienced, maybe a
couple of years before that of constant little nagging voice
in the back of the head going, why don't you
try something new, Why don't you look at that you
used to like that, Why don't you give it a go?
But they ignore it, and they ignore it until they're
forced to do it, and then it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So what would be your advice if someone's listening to this,
and even me, as the virgo that you tell me
I am, I've had something sort of bubbling away in
the background that I've thought, Oh, I should do this.
Oh it's not quite perfect at the moment, so maybe
I should wait, which I know is a trait of
being virgoes. But listening to you it does give me
motivation to just go, just do it, and just to
see what happens. And then often even if that's not
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the path you end up on, it can deviate even
from there again, can't it.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And the other thing you find is that that you
might be thinking you're doing something completely different, and you
may be, But what you'll also find is you've got
all of the skills for it already, because you've developed
them somewhere else along the line of your life in.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
A different way.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
But there's still the same skills that can be applied
to this new chapter or this new path that you're
going down.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
So, for instance, you know you were doing radio and
television before you wrote your book.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yes, yeah, so you already knew how to talk, you
already knew how to write, you already knew how to
put things together, and so when it came to writing
the book, although it was a slightly different thing.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
You had all of those skills in place to allow
you to do that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
We get quite tuttele visioned, don't we with our skill set.
So what would be the first step then for taking
action today?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
To look at what you fear and ask yourself why
what is so scary about change for you?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
And really analyze what it is that's stopping you from
taking that, you know, taking that chance on something, or
stepping out of what you're doing, or creating a new
life for you. What is it that makes you so
frightened of it? And look to see what that is
that's stopping you. And from a lot of people, it's security.
They're afraid that they won't be able to support themselves
or pay the mortgage, or pay the rent or whatever
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it might be if they give up this job that
they've got and do something new.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
So it's about, you know, believing in the success that
you can have even though you're fearful. So like feeling
the fear and doing it anyway.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Oh, I think it's a wonderful place to finish. Dedri,
thank you so much, And I'm sure lots of people
listening to this will be inspired by that. It's a
very very good attitude to have, and I think really
timely for the space that a lot of New Zealanders
find themselves in at the moment, where times are a
bit tough and people are contemplating whether things can be
done differently.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
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