Full Show Podcast: 05 April 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
A cutter good afternoon and welcome into Weekend Sport on
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producer Andy McDonald. We're here until three cricket, rugby, football,
rugby league and lots more including a bunch of live
sport to get suck into this afternoon. But I want
to get straight into the show today and just a warning.

(00:51):
Our first segment of the show today discusses serious themes,
including suicide. Former All Whites goalkeeper Jake Gleeson, who played
eight times for the national side between twenty eleven and
twenty fourteen, has been awarded thirty five million thirty five
point seven million New Zealand dollars and damages after he

(01:12):
brought a medical malpractice lawsuit against an ex team doctor
at Portland Timbers Football Club. His career came to a
halt in twenty eighteen after surgery to treat a stress
fracture in his leg went terribly wrong. Both legs became
infected after a plate inserted into his leg hadn't been

(01:33):
properly sterilized. This led to multiple surgeries, serious medical problems,
and eventually the end of his professional career. Jake Gleeson
is with us on News Talk z'b. Jake, thanks for
joining us to tell us the story. Take us back
to twenty eighteen, back to the start, and tell us
how this all began.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate having me on. Yeah, it's kind
of funny to think back now. I just remember having
some champagne for quite some while some time back then
and getting worked.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
For some shin splints.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Went in for an X ray one day, and yeah,
they told me that I had some some stress stress fractures.
I only had a stresstructure on one side and in
the beginning of the street stress structure on the other side.
So it's a bit of a bit of a Cafar
fault this time. But went into surgery that next week
with about a two to three month recovery time. I

(02:29):
didn't think too much of it, thinking I was going
to be out on the field and probably that two
month time frame back up training playing doing what I loved.
So yeah, left left the training field that day not
knowing that you know what was to come and that
would be the last day would be training or be
a professional footballer.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Really, when did it become apparent after that initial surgery
that something wasn't right?

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yeah, so it's a it's it took took a few
weeks there, the in fiction shut up about just over
two weeks, I believe from the initial surgery showed up
kind of just as a traditional infiction word. I was
put on some medication then for it to help subside it,
which initially did work. At this point I had no

(03:16):
idea what had occurred in the first surgery, so you
know when in there took all the antibiotics that they
gave me in at the end of the course of
those oral antibiotics, the infection just kind of came back
with a vengeance, and at that point the second surgery
was needed for them to flush out you know what
that infection would be. And this is on my right side.

(03:36):
So the play that got inserted that only went through
and we can get into the small sterilization process. This
has only happened in my right league. My lethlete's perfectly
fine at this time. So they do the washout, which
has an eighty percent success rate if it's just a
surface level in fiction. Plus me being a young, healthy

(03:57):
individual and being on the oral and at that point.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
At a pick line and so a tube.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Then when into heart, so I was pumping an antibiotics
Schumer league, we had a very good chance if it
was the surface leavil in fiction to kick it, and
it probably would have set me back about, you know,
maybe maybe two to three weeks. So that was the
first side of the infection and the first surgery. After
the infection, they decided to not remove the plate and

(04:24):
leave the plate. Then they didn't inspect the underside of
the plate or the screw holes, which where the infection
was actually brewing, because it came from the initial initial
surgery and the breach and sterilization protocol. And so at
that point I was just injecting every six hours, injecting
fluid into this peck line and just hoping this infection

(04:46):
would subside and go away.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
But it didn't, and you had multiple surgeries after that,
and what it just kept on getting worse.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yes, I'll kind of go through the story as I've
been in the format that I can tell it best. Obviously. Yeah,
it actually just got worse with the infection. My wound
didn't hear. I had pretty gross stuff coming out of
the wound on my right hand side. At this point,
my left flip was completely fine, no signs of fiction,
was always going well, but my right leg wasn't getting

(05:17):
better with any of the antibiotos that I was on,
and I was on some really really strong antibiotics at
the time. After about another two weeks, I'm not sure
on the timeline, it's been a few years, they decided
to remove the plate on my right leg that was
the side that barely had the streets stricture. I think
at that point the stret structure had healed and so
I'd gone from having a barely having a streets fracture

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to now having sex massive holes in my right shin.
So they went in there, pulled out the plate and
then did a washout, and then they closed up that wound.
It was a few days later I went in on
a check up for the plate remove on my right leg,
where my left leg started to show signs of infection,
and so essentially what had happened ist at this point,

(06:01):
I was pretty sick, so I was grey, I wasn't
eating about like I was riding from the inside. And
I went in and they saw the left leg, saw
that same riddeness same warmth, same everything that was a
sign of in fiction, and they pulled that plate out
straight away. And essentially what had happened is because I
developed austin malitis and my right leg, essentially the in

(06:24):
fiction had traveled through my blood and settled on the
foreign hardware on my left leg. So if I had
just removed the plate on that first surgery, or even
chip the underside of it to know that that's where
the infection was, that at that point we could have
avoided a lot more of the surgery that I went through.
On my one week follow up, I went to see

(06:44):
the same doctor and this was the same doctor who
was caring for me. Who's the main doctor in this
in this in this case, doctor Edilson looked at my
left leg and he said, yeah, your left leg's healing
really really well. Everything looks okay. It looks like, you know,
we caught it and there's no future in fiction. I've
told him. I felt like I was riding from the inside.
And then during that appointment, I said, my right leg

(07:08):
isn't healing and there's actually past still coming out of
it and the wound and this is two weeks post
surgery from that right plate being removed. I was like,
my least leg, I'm not concerned about. It does look
pretty good because you got in there and cleaned it
up quickly. The right leg was just oozing past and
pass using pass And he looked at me and said,

(07:28):
it's just bad blood flow. The wound hit will heal,
and you're fine. At that point, I just lost all confidence.
I probably should have a little bit earlier and called
another team doctor called him and said, I need you
to look at my leg. I think something's wrong and
I feel like I'm rotting from the inside. I went
in to see that other doctor the next day and
then was rushed in to have three emergency surgeries in

(07:51):
five days to clear what would become ostermulitis and dead bone.
And so they had to go in and chunk out
big parts of my bone. It was dead tissue in there.
It was Yeah, it was. It was a bad bad scene.
Once you develop ostroumolitis. It's it's about it bad as
it can get as far as an infection goes. My
body's going septic one hundred and four fahrenheit degree temperature,

(08:15):
and I'm cuddling a bag of ice on my couch,
which with all this medicine still coursing through me every week.
So it was after the first surgery of the new
doctor when I found out about what had occurred in
the first surgery.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Right, So what'sn't until then that you learned of the
unsterilized plate being put in you in the very first surgery.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah, the doctor had essentially broken national state and his
own practices sterilization guidelines. It's about a six hour process
that you have to go through to sterilizing, you know,
in an implantable device which stays in the body. And
he put this through about a twenty minute cycle and

(09:00):
then pulled it out early. He didn't even run the
full flash cycle, which is only meant for instruments because
they don't remain in the human body.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
At this point, it's I want.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
To say, October of twenty eighteen, and I've lost a
bunch of weight, got really really sick, still on the
pik line, and I've gone from having the start of
two stress fractures to six massive holes in my shin
and I'll stimulatist in my right leg.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
So yeah, it happened really really, really.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Quickly, and there's a few gory details in there that
I'll leave out for this interview, but yeah, it was
It was painful to say the least.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
So Jake, at that point, are you still hopeful of
a return to play?

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, So we kind of threw a hail mary, which
is a football term.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
I don't know if the New Zealand and It's familiar
with it.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
It's like a when a quarterback just throws the ball
into the end zone and just hopes that his team
catches it. So in February of the next year, after
my bone had kind of after things had set her down,
I was off antibiotics, we decided to try and rod
my legs, which means you put two I think the

(10:19):
titanium rods through the middle of your tibia to make
it stabilized. And at that point, if that had worked,
that means that those six holes in my league didn't
really matter because the titanium rod would kind of keep
them stable. I don't know the exact date, but we

(10:39):
did both legs on the same day, so I've got
two rods put on my legs on the same day.
So needless to say, I wasn't moving too much. The
same kind of thing happened on the right leg. Because
of the amount of damage and ostumoilightis reinfections can occur
and because of how deteriorated that bone in the area was,

(11:00):
that right rod became infected and it kind of followed
the same path line at this point. Then you doctor
was like, if this rod comes out, your career is over.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
And I knew that.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
So when in for more surgeries, was on placed on
another perk line, so it was injecting more things than
to me to try and try and my best to
get my career back because once that thing came out,
those holes take years to fill in. So I'm not
passing a medical Ireland Bay and Wellington when they picked
me up mate with holes in my leg like that.

(11:30):
So eventually it was in the hospital. Was really sick.
Perk line wasn't working. Perklin got invicted as well because
it had been on me for so long. I had
a wound that hadn't closed in three weeks and was
oozing puss and texious disease. Doctor walked in the room
in the hospital, looked at me, booked how gray I
was and how much way they lost, and basically said

(11:53):
that ride has to come out and has to come
out today and that was it. That was the end
of any chance of playing football game.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
So during this time, how much pain were you and
how much pain are you? Are you still on?

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, So going through the surgeries, they there's an ebbed
and flowed like because you would have one and then
you'd get back where you could start walking around a
little bit, and then you'd have to go in and get
another one and another one. So it was this constant
battle of getting yourself through it. I would say, I
would like to think that I have a pretty high
pain tolerance as a human being. This was, yeah, unbelievably painful.

(12:33):
I think the physical pain obviously people could probably understand.
I had just think called a woundback put in my leg,
which is like a tube that goes in and sucks
in the infection out of your bone. And so I
would click, and when it clicked, I knew it was
about to start and for about thirteen twenty seconds. It
would suck and it was just like agony. I would
start shaking and I would have to hold onto things.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
So that was on my leak for a little while.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
But yeah, you're just getting cut open and butchered for
months on you. And the physical pain was it was brutal.
But I'm I'm pretty good handing physical pain. I would say,
there's constant pain, like I don't I don't know what
it is to not have some form of throbbing or
pain in my legs. It will only get worse. Order

(13:18):
I get I'll have to go see some new specialists.
The way that I explain life right now, it's a
cost It's like a cost analysis.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
If I want to go for a long hike, I can.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Do it, but it's just like as it worth the pain,
whereas before I could do it with no, no issues,
no worries. I tried snowboarding for all this once my
bones are healed up.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
You know.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
This is a couple of years ago, and got the
gear and haven't been back since because the cost analysis
didn't work. It was just too painful, you know, hobbling
around the next day. So that's kind of where my
life is right now, it's shooting nerve pain. On occasions,
it gets worse with more activity. Running is something I

(14:04):
can do, but like you said, it gets wor some
work some more I do it.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
So you just have to.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Kind of transition your life and your health and what
you used to do to new normals that they really
take the load of what's going to really impact you
and hurt you. So yes, just a cost analysis is
what I call it. And it's not fun, especially from
going from a professional athlete to thinking about how much

(14:30):
is it going to hurt going on a five cornitter walk?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
And I mean that's the physical side of this. What
about mentally, Jake, how much of a toll has this
taken on you mentally? Can you articulate that?

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
And I'll do my best not to break down for you, mate,
I haven't. I've put it in a box inside me
for a very long time. So the trial I kind
of let it all out. I was able to tell
my story.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
I think.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
There are points where I just didn't want to live
anymore simple as that. The best way to explain it is,
I felt the world would be a bit of place
if I.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Wasn't in it.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
I was just a burden on my friends, a burden
on my now fiance who's the most wonderful person in
the world for putting up with me. And we had
just started dating seeing them all this happened, and she was,
you know, picking up my scrips, helping me eat when
I came making me eat.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
And I couldn't. She was there through it all.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
So there was a long time where it was, yeah,
very very very dark times.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
I'll give you. I'll open up quite quite open here.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
And the worst that got was I basically had a
pill job because I've been prescribed so many you know,
oprio It's like painkillers and entire anxiety and all these things.
So I filled this pill jar up with enough pills
that I know that if I took it all at once,
so it would kill me. And I drove out a

(16:13):
few times to different places, all one place, a couple
of places around Portland with that, and and I had
that around me for for a few months. And there
was definitely some some close calls where I thought that
that was going to be the day, but.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Never never did.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
It never went through with that, which I'm I'm happy about,
but I'm also you know, you battle with the internal
side of it of letting yourself get that bad. So
it's an interesting space to fall in. But it was
a very it was a very dark time and it's
it's something I wouldn't wish on wash on anyone. And

(16:55):
you know, there were there were a lot of factors
that that kind of led to that for me to
get to that point and the last few years, I
would just say it's been a slow climb out of
a very very deep, dark hole.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
All right, Jak, that might be a good time to
take a short break. Please stay with us. We're back
with more from Jake Gleeson right after this on Weekend Sport.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
The Voice of Sport on your home of Sport Weekend
Sport with Jason Hin and GJ. Gunnomes New Zealand's most
trusted home builder News.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Talks twelve twenty seven on Weekend Sport. Our guest is
former All Whites goalkeeper Jake Gleeson, awarded thirty five point
seven million New Zealand dollars and damages after he brought
a medical malpractice lawsuit against an ex team doctor at
Portland Timbers Football Club. So you've told us about what

(17:52):
happened Jake, how did you then decide upon the path
of legal action?

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, when once I found out what had occurred in
the first surgery for me, what he had done in
the corners that he had cut, as you know, the
New Zealand's not you can't do this in New Zealand.
I didn't even know what my rights were, even though
I'd be living in the States for a long time
and there are people around me who knew a little

(18:19):
bit more about it, and they said, you know, my
agent actually at the time, was like you should just
go speak to a lawyer. When spoke to the law
who ended up representing to me, and I told him
the story and it was a pretty crazy one and
it gets some pretty deep and left there, and I
think my uncle came over and visited and he met
with him. He's an attorney as well, and they asked him,
is he telling the truth because if this is true,

(18:41):
like this is big and this seems like a bit
of a crazy story that a doctor would do this.
And my uncle responded, he's you may not be the
smartest boy, but but sure, he's sure is an honest one.
So yeah, at that point, I think once I found
out the play had basically just been.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
The way that I can explain it.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
It's like putting a piece of rock chicken in a
microwave for a minute and in fat feeding it to
someone while they're asleep.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
That's essentially what he did.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
There was no turning back once once I found that out,
that I had to kind of move forward to bring
light of it and then also to make sure that
this doesn't happen again. Like you know, the story has
got a lot bigger than I thought it might have.
But I think hopefully that it puts in perspective that,
you know, if you're a surgeon, you don't have the
autonomy to just do what you want. Your actions impact

(19:33):
your patients. What he took from me, he can never
give back. And I even hit it to my lawyer.
I was like, if they don't want to, you know,
offer any money, or if you win money, I would
happily exchange it for a time machine, but unfortunately that's
not that's not a possibility.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
How has this changed your relationship with with the Portland
Timas Football Club and with the club's fans.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I felt, well, the football club, I would say, tweet
me under the rug. I think if you pay attention
to the upper management or you know, the stories of
who is or was at the club at the time.
You know the kind of people that were managing it.
Those stories you can go and google yourself. I won't

(20:17):
bring those up. So they, yeah, just sweeped under the rug,
thrown out like trash. And so that was really really
hard to deal with because I'd moved here when I
was nineteen and considered these people an extension of my family.
You know, to play at the club for nine years
is not normal in the world of football. So yeah,

(20:42):
definitely felt not good about that. I ended up moving
to San Francisco at the beginning of twenty twenty after
all the surgeries and recovering and getting that separation I
think really really helped me. But I'm back important now
because my films got a job here. Doesn't feel the
way that it used to. But I'm going to actually
ten my first Timbers game in April, and it will

(21:04):
be the second game I've gone since all this, not
the Timbers game, but any football game with the Timbers Army.
So although I felt like I was thrown out blay
the club, the response from the community from all this
has been really positive, so I have to appreciate them
for that.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, that's great. It's not getting away from the fact that,
you know, the settlement is big. You know, twenty million
US thirty four and a half million New Zealand dollars.
I know you'd prefer the time machine, obviously, but what
does this settlement mean for you?

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, I mean there's still a long way to go
in that regard. There's appeals, there's all these things in
legal gargon that I know nothing about, so we still
don't know what will happen over the next six months
to a year. This is the first step, and once again,
a very long path. I don't think it's sunk in yet.
I'm very tired.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Still. Trial is a very.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Grueling process, and I wouldn't recommend it for anyone. The
more cathartic side of it all has been able to
tell my story. The money is an added bonus once
we figure out what it all looks like, because I'm
not currently sitting with a twenty million dollars US check.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
If anybody's asking. It doesn't work like that.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
So you know, once it all see it was and
that it was as confirmed, we've already started conversations with
some local groups around here to highlight this, and I
really want to kind of utilize it also to bring
attention to mental health as well, especially for for athletes.
I think it is growing and I think there is
support there. But it's tough to lose something that you

(22:34):
identify with so much, whether it's taken from you or
or you have to walk away from it. So I'd
like to do something in that realm, and then I
would like to go somewhere nice with my fiance and
throw my phone in a lock box somewhere and just
kind of take take a week to to take some
deep breaths and kind of start to put this all

(22:57):
behind us as we as we move forward with our life.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Last question, have you fallen out of love with football?

Speaker 4 (23:09):
It's a great question, no, because if you.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
If I could play one more professional game and walk out,
whether it be with All White game, Timbers game, I
would I would give a lot to do that, basically anything.
And the reason I know I haven't is that there
are still mornings I wake up and I forget everything
that's happened, and I actually get up thinking I'm about
to go into training. It's a game that gave me

(23:43):
a lot of opportunity. I owe the game a lot.
There was a period after all this where I had
to walk away from it, and I did, and I
looked at it as a source of anger or anxiety
or stress. But I think slowly, over time, I can't
deny the fact that I love football and that's that's
been in me since I was a kid.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
So I'm I'm excited to watch more.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
I haven't really watched much, and to slowly get back
into it and hopefully it hurts a little bit less
and less over time that I can no longer do it,
and I think one I'm most excited for us to
see the boys in between twenty six course some upsets
in the States. I couldn't be more excited for the
Al Whites and the boys on the team that I know,
and all the young guns coming through. I mean, they're

(24:32):
an impressive bunch, so I'll be there supporting them for sure.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
As well we all. Jake, I can't thank you enough
for being so open and honest about what you've been through.
I wish more than anything that you didn't have to
go through this and I could find you that time machine.
But now that you have and you're out the other
side and the US justice system has done its job.
I wish you only peace and fulfillment in the years ahead.

(25:00):
Thank you so much again for joining us in such
an authentic way.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
No, I appreciate I appreciate you reaching out and it's
a story that I think needs to be heard. And
I'll say it again, if anybody needs any help or
is going through anything, reach out to me. I'll hopefully
I'll have something a little bit more established as we
move forward. But yeah, like I said, it's a story
I needed to tell to me. Make sure that it
didn't happen to anyone else. So appreciate your time, mate,
Appreciate your riching out, and you'll see what the future holds.

(25:27):
But I think it's a little brighter than the last
seven years, which is hopeful.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
No doubt, no doubt. Thanks Jake Jake Gleason, their former
All Whites and Portland Timbers goalkeeper with quite the tale,
Quite the story twenty five to one. I eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty If anything stood out there,
you want to react to heaps of feedback coming through
on text, which is great to see any thoughts, anything

(25:55):
you want to add anything you want to say about
a quite remarkable story. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is our number nine two nine two text messages twenty
five to one. News Talks EB the Big Issues.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
On and after Fields Call eight hundred eighty gen eighty
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Speaker 2 (26:22):
News Talks at being Weekend Sport. It's what are we
twenty one away from one? Heaps of feedback coming through
on the text line about the Jake Gleeson interview. A
chance to listen back to it. All of our all
of our material goes on to our podcast feed, So
wherever you your podcast, just look for Weekend Sport and
all of our interviews are put up there welly pretty

(26:43):
shortly after they play. So if you didn't get the
chance to listen to it, then then I hope you
will get the chance to really listen. Great and sobering interview,
says Mike, what a journey. In one sense, it's beneficial
it happened in the US, as he would have got
no financial compensation in New Zealand. I hope Jake's future
is a positive one. Julie says, what an incredible interview.

(27:04):
In a response to your question about his love sport.
He got me crying, Thanks Julie. Jason, this is heartbreakingly tragic.
What an awesome young guy. My heart goes out to
him so brutal and I hope he heals Okay, Jason,
I can't find anything to say, says Judy. I'm so
glad he made it through the dark days and has
won his case. It won't replace his health, but he'll
have financial support now, Thanks Judy. And Greek says Jake.

(27:28):
I've been through some medical misadventures, knowing there what you've
been through, mate, but just want to say all strength,
do you stay strong? And kia kaha. Yeah, really really
interesting stuff and another one that has just come through here.
Everything to be said for advocating for ones self, trusting
one's instincts, and accepting that doctors and specialists sometimes aren't

(27:50):
all that Wishing Jake all the strength and I don't
have the right words in the world to him. I've
had my own chronic and life sentence experience. One of
the most difficult and heartbreaking things is looking functional but
living with a health related experience or condition that is
incomprehensible to others. Don't compromise on your own truth would
be my best advice. You'll meet those that impose their

(28:10):
own ideas of how you are, those that need you
to be normal in order to be acceptable, and you'll
meet those who will let you be crap and that's
okay their gold. An extraordinary young man. Thanks and really
appreciate you taking the time to put your thoughts down
on a text to us as well. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty other meters around today, there is

(28:31):
a bit going on. I can tell you. We need
to cover off for RUGB, we need to cover off
a bit of football. We need to cover off some cricket.
In fact, let's start with the cricket, shall we, Because
the third and final One day International between New Zealand
and Pakistan has been delayed by rain in Well, I
think it was overnight rain more than anything, because it

(28:53):
pretty much rained everywhere in the Upper North Island over
the last forty eight hours, didn't it so at Bay
Oval and mountamong Going to week, the match has been
reduced to forty two overs per side. Forty two overs
per side, Pakistan one the toss and have sent New
Zealand into bat a forty two over a side match
and one change to the New Zealand side, with Tim

(29:14):
Seifert coming into the eleven. He'll play his first One
Day International since twenty nineteen. So Tim Seifert in Nathan
Smith will drop out and as I say, play reduced
to forty two overs a side. Nick Kelly and Reese
Martyhoo about to go out to bat for New Zealand.
Henry nichols Dale on Mitchell, Tim Seifert, Michael Brace, wore
the captain, Mhammada Bas, Mitch Hay, Ben se As, Jacob Duffy,

(29:35):
Will O'Rourke. Shame they couldn't find a way to get
Addie as Shock a game in this series. He's in
the team the Auckland spinner, but has not has not
managed to get himself a game. I guess the pictures
have been kind of dirty green seamers for want of
a better phrase, haven't they. So just you know whether
it's too nil, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Andy?

Speaker 2 (29:54):
We won the first two of these, didn't we. It's
too nil? Yeah, So I know it's a shame they
didn't give him a crack addie as shock. Anyway, they've
made their decision and out they'll go New Zealand to
bat first against Pakistan very very shortly. Also this afternoon
the start of a Super Rugby quadruple header, so if

(30:17):
you wanted to, could you could follow along on Goldsport
and iHeartRadio. Four straight Super Rugby matches, five pasts to
this afternoon, one a Pacifica off the back of that
magnificent one over the Crusaders last time out, welcome the
war Retars to North harborst Stadium, So five pass two
for that one. The Warritars, of course, smarting after they

(30:39):
had fifty pot on them by the Hurricanes a week ago.
Then were up to Fiji, up to Suva, where the
Fiji and Drewer welcomed the Crusaders off the back of
that lost to mine A Pacifica and Crusaders fans, and
in fact many rugby fans will know that Fiji hasn't
necessarily been a happy hunting ground for other Crusaders. In fact,
I don't think they've won up there since the Fiji

(31:00):
and Drewer entered the competition. So they'll give that another
crack this afternoon from four to thirty five Eden Park
in Auckland Tonight five past seven. This is said to
be another little Bobby Dazzler the Blues against the Hurricanes.
The Blues trying to break out of this dreadful run
of form that has seen them with just one win
in their first six games as they look to defend

(31:22):
their Super Rugby Pacific title. The only thing that's keeping
them off the bottom of the table is the Fijian
drivers slightly inferior points differential. But the Blues welcome the
Hurricanes this afternoon themselves. They've had a pretty inconsistent season.
Took them a while to get going, but the win
over the Waratars last weekend potentially was a launching pad
after a narrow loss before the bye, a narrow wind
before the by against the Highlanders. So after two o'clock

(31:44):
we'll chat two members of both sides, Kurt Ecklund out
of the Blues, Duplessy Kadifi out of the Hurricanes, and
the final match tonight nine thirty five out West in Perth,
as the Highlanders, speaking of inconsistency, look to break out
of theirs. They started so promisingly the Highlanders didn't They
We sort of watched them at the start of the

(32:05):
season and you know, I thought maybe they were a
team that could perhaps rise above the stuff that they've
been doing in recent times. They had a couple of wins,
didn't they. They beat the Blues. That was I think
the one where everyone thought, Okay, this team's got a
bit about them. Then they went to Albany and beat
Mina Pacifica. They were up in the sort of the

(32:25):
top two, top three. Unfortunately, it's gone west a little
bit since then, So Highland is four, so more in
Pacific Warriortors five past two, Fiji Androi Crusaders four to
thirty five, Blues Hurricanes five past seven, Forced Highlanders nine
thirty five. All of those games are live and free
on gold Sport and on iHeartRadio. Now the game that
has been played was last night in the pouring rate,

(32:48):
the torrential rain that we saw in Hamilton last night,
and it was the Chiefs who got there. They were
ten all at halftime with the Reds thirteen ten with
about ten minutes to go, and then a couple of
late tries got them across the line. The Chiefs against

(33:08):
the Reds. Roger Randall assistant coach in charge of attack
is going to join us after one o'clock ause we
have a have a we chat about that. So yeah,
there's quite a bit of rugby to focus on this
afternoon as well. And let's not forget the football. Auckland FC.
I've got a game this afternoon against the Western Sydney
Wanders five o'clock out at Mount smart Well. I get

(33:30):
inside the Auckland FC camp as well before before we
knock the show on the head. Fourteen away from one
lines are open. Oh, eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty.
Anything you want to pick up on it can be
some rugby. We've got more of that to come after
one o'clock, but you can pick up on it early
if you like anything from the Jake Gleason interview or
anything that's caught your eye around the cricket. When New
Zealand have got an underweight against Pakistan batting first, I

(33:51):
Mount Bong and two forty drives a side. Reese Mauter,
you and Nick Kelly are out there to open the
batting for New Zealand Weekend Sport on News Talk SEP.
We're back after this.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Let's go from the trag Fields and the Court on
your home of Lord weekends for.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
New TALKSB, News TALKSB and Weekend Sport. Ten to one
safe start for the black Caps, one without loss. They
are through the first over. Reece Martio and Nick Kelly
together some talk around the office yesterday and initiated by
me actually that a team of under thirty year old
black Caps might be a good chance to beat a

(34:31):
team of over thirty year old black Caps. Because what's
happened now is we've built this next generation depth in
the New Zealand side. It is now possible for the
black Caps to field a team of players with international
experience entirely under the age of thirty. Now bear in
mind this is probably for a white ball game. I'm
not sure you'd send this team out in a test match,

(34:53):
but you could in a One day international. Here it
is Reee Martyo who's playing in this current game. He's
twenty three years old, opening with Finn Allen who is
twenty five years old, and then Tim Robinson coming in
at first drop he's twenty two. Then you get to
the experienced core of the team, Rich and Ravendra he's
still only twenty five, and Glenn Phillips, he's twenty eight

(35:14):
years old, and then the freshly arrived but hugely exciting
twenty one year old Muhammad Abas. So there's your top six.
Then wicket keeper batsman Mitch Hay look at the other
day ninety nine not out, he's only twenty four. And
then there's a pace quartet Nathan Smith twenty six years old,
Zach Folks twenty two, Ben Sears twenty seven, and Will

(35:37):
O'Rourke who is twenty three. And if you wanted that
spin option, then Addie Ashock, as I say, who's played
a couple of games of white ball cricket for New Zealand.
He could play twenty two years old. That's a pretty
good team, don't you think, Mario Allen, Robinson, Revendra Phillips, Abbas, Hay, Smith, Folks, Sears, O'Rourke.
How do you reckon that team would go in a

(36:00):
T twenty game against an over thirties team. If you
wanted your over thirties team, you'd you could pick. I
guess you'd go Will Young and Devin Conway. Then came Williamson,
Mark Chapman, who I actually thought was younger than thirty,
but doesn't Daryl Mitchell, Tom Latham, Michael Bracewell, Mitchell Santner,
Kyle Jamison, another one I thought was under thirty, but

(36:20):
doesn't Matt Henry, Jacob Duffy. I mean that team would
probably win, wouldn't it, just for its greater experience, But
in a T twenty game, you think, well, the other
team's pretty exciting. I think what the point is, the
most salient point of the whole thing, is that we
are now able to even choose a team like that

(36:41):
that's under thirty, because for a long time I think
that was the discussion, wasn't it. There's no you know,
there's no regeneration going on, and for a long time
there didn't need to be, especially around the Test side
when they were doing so well and around the World
Test Championship, and you know, the store warts of that
of that time came Williamson and Ross Taylor, and then

(37:02):
of course the three pronged pace attack of Neil Wagner,
Trent Bolt, Tim Saudi with Jamison and latter times jumping
in there Matt Henry of course too. You know, we
didn't need to regenerate necessarily. But I think through the
white ball side they've definitely done it. There's no question
that that. You know, we've started to build a little

(37:23):
bit of depth in our in our white ball cricket,
so that's great to see. We might have a chat
about that tomorrow actually on the show. How has this
depth been built and is there you know, is there
a bright future for perhaps some you know, for those
players who then who once they gained some white ball experience,
then start to play a bit of red ball cricket.
Vicky says, I love this idea, Jason, bringing cricket to

(37:46):
a younger market as well. Make it happen. Make it happen. Look,
I don't know where they've put it in the calendar,
but it's only one day, isn't it. Surely they could
do it in over thirties and under thirties. I'm reasonably
sure they'd find they'd find a reason not to. But
I don't know. It feels like cricket would be a
game where you could do it. If you did it
in some other sports, slightly more contact sports, then you

(38:08):
might find yourself in a little bit of trouble. Hey,
Formula one as well. David Coltard is our guest on
the show tomorrow Oscar Piastre ended Friday on top at
the Japanese Grand Prix. He was fastest during free practice too. Now,
the session was disrupted by several red flags, the first
stoppage coming after a heavy crash for Jack doan Lando

(38:31):
Norris set the pace during the first free practice earlier
in the day, in a session that also saw home
favorite Yuki Sonoda making his debut for Red Ball. The
driver's return to action for the second hour of practice
around three local time, dry and sunny conditions. But if
you look at you look at the best practice results

(38:53):
in practice too, you don't have to go down too
far to find Liam Lawson. He was fifth fastest in
the second free practice session. So look, we all know
the story around Liam Lawson coming out of the Red
Bull team and into the Racing Balls team. But both

(39:14):
Racing Balls drivers Liam Lawson and Isaac Hadjar went faster
than both Red Bull drivers Max Forstappen and Yuki Sonoda,
who's all the way down the bottom. There was more
to it than that, and I don't really have the
time unfortunately to go into it. But what it does
prove is that Liam Lawson can drive fast even in

(39:35):
a supposedly slob a vehicle. Isaac Hadjar the same, so
Piastre was the fastest and practiced too. Then Lando Norris
then Hadjar, then Lewis Hamilton and the Ferrari and Liam
Lawson making up the top five. So clearly he's found
his mojo back, certainly in practice anyway, qualifying as this afternoon,
there's one more practice sestion, I think around three o'clock,

(39:56):
then qualifying later on tonight, and the race itself goes
at around five o'clock tomorrow afternoon. So yeah, David Coultart
is our guest just after midday tomorrow to break this
all down. Final few time X messages before we go
to the news. Pint of the over thirties would smash them.
They're mentally stronger, says mentally stronger. You know what, I
don't know that at MEDS in T twenty i'd back,

(40:17):
but I'd back my young guns in that game. But
the thing is also those older heads, there is no
way in the world that they would want to give
up bragging right to a bunch of young upstarts. So
maybe it would be the over thirties who who would
do what was required to get in the heads of
the Younger Brigade. I don't know, Shirley says, thanks for

(40:38):
the very revealing story from Jake Gleeson, courageous young man,
strong and his belief for his right to wellness after
all that medical misadventure. We wish him the best for
a long, happy and healthy life, wishing him every success.
Thank you surely. And another one from Mars after that.
And to be Pinty, I don't think I'll ever complain
about having a sore back ever again or saw knees.

(40:58):
I just feel so bad for Jake, which I'm sure
is the last thing he wants people feeling sorry for him.
But you honestly can't buy your health, mate, that's for sure.
Thanks Mars, and Peter says, great, I'd hear about the
overs and Unders, Pinty. Remember when the Junior All Blacks
played the All Blacks and Fat Graig we could do
that too, under twenty five All Blacks. This is over
twenty five All Blacks. Yeah, I mean, I've often said,

(41:21):
and the quest for you know, cut through. Nothing should
be off the table. Overs and Unders news next at
one o'clock and then Roger Randall out of the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's the only place to discuss the biggest fours issues
on and after fields.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
It's all on Winter.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
And Sport with Jason Taine on your Home of.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Sport or one o seven. Welcome in. This is Weekend
Sport on News Talks dB. I'm Jason Pine. Andy McDonald
is the show's producer and brains. We're here until three.
Roger Randall shortly assistant coach at the Chiefs. They got
there last night. Man, how wet was it down there?

Speaker 7 (42:02):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
My god, so west in Hamilton. But they got the
job done. Beating the Reds twenty seven to fifteen will
cover that off. Your thoughts on that game or the
four that are coming up today, I'm not sure that
you could with any degree of certainty pick the four
winners today. I mean, you obviously know who you think
might win, but I'm not sure that if we all

(42:25):
had a big bet, if we all just sent in
our four winners, we might even do that. Let's let's
do that. Set that up, will you. We'll do that shortly.
Send in your four winners from today and let's see
if anybody gets it right. Adam Peacock from across the
Tasman as well, will keep eyes on the cricket for
you two. Also, today I know around the country a

(42:48):
lot of winter sport is starting, a lot of you know,
the grassroots senior winter sport and football, rugby, rugby league,
netball such like. So it may well be that that's
where you're off to. You're heading off to begin your
season of lower grade football or praises, rugby, your master's
neb or hockey whatever it is, rugby league. Hope the

(43:10):
season goes well, and just remember the governing body of
your sport is not waiting on the edge of their
seat for your result to come through, So treat your
game in that fashion and it'll be better for everybody,
Andrew says Piney. Jake Gleeson's story brought back scary memories

(43:32):
six years ago when our son had an infection inside
his ankle. Ultrasound picked it up, no wound or spray
and he was rushed to Wellington Hospital and operated on immediately.
Spent two weeks in hospital recovering. Took another eighteen months
for him to mentally and physically recover. Jake spoke so
honestly about his situation. All the best of him. Keep

(43:53):
the great interviews coming. By the way, says Andrew, my
son's back playing football and duneed and today the season
starts today. Good stuff, excellent, excellent stuff. Are from the
cricket in Mount Monganui. New Zealand have lost their first
wik at Nick Kelly is the man out and so
through five overs, New Zealand are twenty four for one,
twenty four for one, Nick Kelly out four to three.

(44:16):
Reece Marty who is unbeaten on fourteen. His Canterbury team
mate Henry Nichols is there on two. New Zealand twenty
four for one at the end of the fifth over.
We'll keep you posted from the beautiful Bay Oval in
Mount Mortganui where Reecee Martio has just dispatched one over
midwicket for six, so thirty for one now good stuff.
The Chiefs back to the top of the Super Rugby

(44:39):
Ladder a twenty seven to fifteen win over the in
form Reds of Queensland and Hamilton last night.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
They're now three outs advantage to the Chiefs.

Speaker 8 (44:51):
Takeyaho makes an eighteen ten rampling.

Speaker 9 (44:55):
Oh he gets through two, three, four, He's a capital
meters out.

Speaker 6 (44:59):
He's a meter out.

Speaker 10 (45:00):
Rose got any.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Saving a row Minty and Steve. We've gone and loving
it there in Hamilton. Last night it was so where
it wasn't it tries in the final ten minutes to
hook a summer Sauny Tokiajo and half bag zavir Row
getting the Chiefs across the line after the score was
locked at ten all at halftime. Chiefs assistant coach Roger
Randall is with us here on weekend Sport. Thanks for
joining us, Roger. Is it any better down there today

(45:26):
in Hamilton? Weather wise? Mate?

Speaker 11 (45:28):
Pretty much was raining all from Thursday night or yesterday
until to start the kick off and she's a blue
sky at the moment.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
The irony, the irony. How much did the weather I
mean it looked terrible on TV. How much did the
conditions affect your game plan?

Speaker 11 (45:46):
Oh? Yeah, both teams MO day game plan. We knew
it was going to be wet. I think midweek we
saw what was going to happen with the weather. You know,
you make adjust months, but it's still really really difficult.
Havcoon raiser before our game. So the field we held
up pretty well, but she's never going to be a

(46:08):
pretty game. But that we got the job done.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, with ball in hand it must obviously it changes
things completely. So when you're when you're devising your attacking
strategies and you you know, you look at the forecast
and you say, man, it's going to absolutely team down.
How much does that change the way you put your
attack together.

Speaker 12 (46:27):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (46:28):
Yeah, you have to have a pretty good set piece,
and Scrum was going really rough our line out. I
had a few wobbles in the first half, I think
both both teams, and then second half come good. Having
that set piece carrying pain of discipline, you know, went
in the year with some of the contestables. So when

(46:48):
we were able to control that, you know, we're able
to a bit of pressure. But when we weren't, that
gave them entries into our twenty two and it made
it difficult for ourselves.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
The defense of the rolling mall though they're rolling all,
I mean, your defense of it was was pretty good.
How how pleasing was it that you were able to
withstand that kind of pressure that they were putting on you.

Speaker 11 (47:12):
Yeah, John O Gibson. The forwards done a great job there. Yeah,
Like you said, they haven't kicked a goal penalty goal
this year any of their game, so they often kept
to the sideline and give them a nudge and back
their scrums. So they've come to Hamilton with a pretty

(47:36):
pretty uh obvious game plan, game plan that's really suited them.
And yeah for the forwards to withstand that was pleasing
early in.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
The second half the run and near triy for Harry
McLaughlan Phillips. Uh, did you think it got that down
at first?

Speaker 5 (47:52):
Luck?

Speaker 11 (47:55):
No, No, we thought it had knocked on a rolled
out of his because we have about five angles up
at our box, so we're just waiting for them to
go to the view five. Frequently the five rolls out.
But yeah, I was touch and go there when we
were listening to the combos between the TMO and in

(48:15):
the referee.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yeah, I mean he's definitely he hasn't got it down,
but I mean you look at it and yeah, you
can see why they took so long, but at least
they reached the right decision and then you know, you
pulled away at the end thirteen ten ahead. I think
as we reached the seventy minute mark, what do you
think gave you the ability to pull away with those
two late tries?

Speaker 11 (48:36):
Probably just going back to was talked about before getting
our set piece right, Our discipline was good. We're getting
our catching our high balls and then we're able to
exactly some pressure our kick game into the twenty two.
Just jacb come on and got a fifty to twenty two.
So that was outstanding. And yeah, got our set piece

(48:59):
sorted and we're able to get the big funny over
for one of the more tries and the xavier just
through the amount of pressure we put in put them
through in the twenty two. Come up with those couple
of chores.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
You mentioned Josh Jacob there. How have you assist his
development this year?

Speaker 11 (49:19):
Oh, outstanding. He's he's probably had more super games than
his now. So he's been in the twenty three every
week and said about four or five starts come on
at critical times last twenty minutes to ten and they
made some beat the fifteen. So even just watching Damian

(49:40):
and how he runs a week and has been outstanding
for us as a young a young player. You know
that's there's been prousting to her a super super rugby
team to lead them around the field. Like I said,
without a hell of a lot of EBC experience, he's

(50:04):
doing a great job at the moment. He's only go
to get better.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
He must have been quite a levelhead as well, Roger,
because a lot of guys, I mean, everybody wants to
play right and he did for the first three games
while Seawan Stevenson was away and Damien was playing fullback.
But but you know, and now that Damien McKenzie has
just signed a new four year deal, Josh Jacob must
have a you know, a pretty good outlook on it all,
thinking okay, well I'll stay and I'll benefit from being here,

(50:27):
even if it is behind Damien McKenzie.

Speaker 11 (50:32):
Yeah, like I said, we're both in the twenty three
and give him some real good game time. So Josh
is learning a lot and he's with his own spin
on things. He's got some different attributes to Damon as well,
which are really beneficial for us. So he's gone, good guns.
We love him.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Sean Stevenson one hundred games for the Chiefs. Can you
articulate his contribution to your site?

Speaker 11 (50:59):
Well, yeah, he's not many people will be able to
do that. So, yeah, come back from Japan and get
these you know, those last three or four games that
he was after and you know, hopefully put into the season. Well,
but reflect back on the last ten years, he's you
know how much he's grown. I guess as a person
as well, seen that he's quite enigmatic. I guess during

(51:23):
the during that that career where fish really doores do
some some really great stuff and got in and out
of the team. But like in the last three or
four years, this last three years, he's really just owned
his position and probably one of our first backs packed
each week's stuff because of his consistency giving assistent game time,

(51:46):
which helps him, you know, showcase the things he's really
really good at, which is attacking ability. So you know,
he's a big, big cog.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
For us, no doubt. And interesting situation with obviously Clayton McMillan,
you know, leaving at the end of the season that
was telegraphed a long way out. How has that changed
things in the coaching group or has it not?

Speaker 11 (52:06):
Not really other than Haven having to shop more copies for.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
The coaches fair enough, fair enough?

Speaker 11 (52:12):
Yeah no, No, it's a B A U. And then
that's you did say, that's what we're doing. So by
a couple of jokes generally from me towards them, it's
everybody just pretty focused about getting the job done. He's
been awesome, like he's you know, he's making sure he

(52:33):
keeps having on the track as well. So you know,
these players that will go off contract at in a
year and coaches as well, firs part of the business.
And we've got a job to do this year and.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Just back to the team to finish. I mean, this
feels like last year. It feels like the year before.
You made it to the Grand Final both times without
being able to take that final step. Do you I
don't know. Do you have to lose a couple to
win one?

Speaker 13 (52:57):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Is that accurate? Do you feel in a better shape
this time around? Can you win this thing?

Speaker 4 (53:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (53:03):
We believe we can, and I know there's a few
other teams that believe the same thing. So we're still
only eight nine rounds into the competition, so there's a
lot of rugby to be played yet to try and
get into the top six. So then, you know, I
think good enough again in the top six, you's just
trying to get enough points to be potentially in the
top two and get towards those home semis. But there's

(53:25):
a lot of rugby to be played, and yeah, so hopefully,
but you know, I'll bully, I'll tell you in about
two months time.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I was both fair enough, we'll have a chat then, Hey,
congrats on the win last night. That Roger. Enjoy the
sunshine and the tron.

Speaker 11 (53:41):
Today, mate, all do, thank you, thank.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
You, Roger, Roger Randle, that assistant coach of the Chiefs
in charge of attack, which I'm sure was a slightly
different brief as he said last night with all that rain.
But the Chiefs, well they got the job done, didn't
They back to the top. They jumped over the top
of the Reds who were top before last night. So
the Chiefs twenty six points from their seven games, the
Reds twenty three from their seven games. Then the Crusaders

(54:07):
on nineteen, the Brumbies on nineteen, the Warritars on seventeen,
the Fourth on fifteen. All four Australian sides inside the
top six. Now that might change, of course, Hurricanes Highlanders
could jump into the top six depending on how their
results go today. Even Wheer Pacifica could do that if
they get all five points against the Wartars. But the
fact remains, it's you know, it's what we've talked about

(54:30):
for a long time, a competition where the Australian sides
are competitive. Always disappointing, says this text when the Chiefs
play on Friday night, because the quality of the remaining
games over the weekend is that much poor. Yes, spoken
like a true Chiefs fan. They are favorites something Chiefs fans,
Are you willing to embrace the favorites tag? Because it

(54:54):
seems to me, and I think I've said this on
the show quite often, that when the Chiefs do well,
which is most of the time in the last three years,
nobody from that part of the country is willing to
come on and beat your chest. You're just too humble
about But maybe that's because of what happened last year
and the year before two years ago, in particular twenty
twenty three, the Chiefs were by far and away the

(55:15):
best team right across the round robin into the finals,
and they hosted the final where the Crusaders came up
and did a job on you and raised a got
his breakdancing routine out for the last time as the
Crusaders won. There was seventh in a row. Whatever it
was last year, not perhaps quite as dominant across the season,
but sensational performance down in Wellington to beat the Hurricanes

(55:38):
and then into the final where they were well beaten
by the Blues. So yeah, I think last season was
a bit of a step back from twenty twenty three,
but still into the final. It just seems like this
year well, I mean, the Blues have completely fallen off
a cliff. Now that might change, obviously, but at the
moment that's the way it looks. The Crusaders, I think
there was a bit of a well, bit of optimism,

(56:01):
a fair degree of optimism when they beat the Hurricanes
first up, but then lost to the Chiefs. Then three
were in a row, including that big win over the
Blues at Eden Park, but then a lost to Mowana Pacifica.
So the drew of this afternoon, then the Hurricanes, then
the Blues, then the Highlanders. So the Crusader's got a
bit of a bit of interesting match play coming up.

(56:23):
So if it's not the Chiefs who are favorites, then
who is it. I'm almost certain it's not the Blues.
I'm pretty sure it's not the Crusaders. The only other
team rarely I guess you could put in the conversation
would be the Brumbies, although they've had three losses from
their seven games. Who is Super Rugby favorite and can
we look at this remaining can we look at this

(56:47):
remaining quadrant of games? Is that even a word? The
four games to come up today and try and pick
winners for them. Jump on the phone and join me
in a game of pick the winner. Eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is our number. We'd love you to
do that. I've got Moonda pacifica Warratas Fiji and Drewer Crusaders, Blues,
Raccainn's Force Highlanders, And this is what we have always wanted.

(57:13):
Four games where really you don't know who would be
the biggest favorite in all of those games. I'd say
probably I was going to say the Crusaders over in Fiji,
but they haven't won over there. Maybe the Force would
be the biggest favorites against the Highlanders. Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty, give us a hol let's go
through some of these games. Or even if you just

(57:34):
want to pick the winner of one or two, I
want to make a point about the Chiefs or any
of your favorite teams or your favorite team in Super Rugby.
We're great to get your thoughts on it. O eight
one hundred eighty ten eighty it is what are we?
Twenty three past one. Quick update from the cricket where
we threw to forty six with not without lost forty
six for one, forty six for one New Zealand at

(57:57):
the end of the eighth over Mari. You're there on
thirty Henry Nichols alongside unbeaten on nine forty six for
one News Zeland having been sent in and what is
now a forty two over a side match one twenty four.
Back with your calls after this on weekend Sport one.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Crutch Hold Engaged Weekends for It with Jason Pave and GJ.
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Speaker 2 (58:24):
One twenty seven. Our text line is nine two ninety two.
Text me the winners these four games. Mina Pacific out Warritas.
I've got Mana Pacifica winning that Fiji and Drewer Crusaders.
I've got the Drawer winning that Blues Hurricanes. Of course,
I'd have the Hurricanes winning that Force Highlanders Force Highlanders. Yeah,

(58:48):
i think I've got the Highlanders winning that. So Maaanda Pacificer,
Fiji and Drewer Hurricanes Highlanders for me nine two nine two,
fire them through. Let's see how close we can get.
I don't I don't. As I said before, I don't
give anybody a better than fifty to fifty chance of
picking four winners today. If you can't, then you're better
than most of us.

Speaker 6 (59:09):
Hello, Calvin, they're going to.

Speaker 13 (59:10):
Athenn to you, Jason. From where I live here in
the tron I when they're playing rugby at what I
still call Rugby Park, the stadium, I can see the
lights and hear the old fireworks and see them going off.
But I'm I'm only a follow of rugby union, you know,
but from a distance. But I would definitely put down
the Chiefs, and of course the Damien McKenzie. His class

(59:36):
is one of the best, if not the best he's
in a rugby player. And then there at the moment,
isn't it. It's only in recent weeks a lot of
people were boo pooingham putting him down.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Yeah, it was just on the new four year deal,
hasn't he Calvin? So clearly, clearly the powers that be
at the Chiefs are big fans.

Speaker 13 (59:55):
Now my brain's getting on for eighty four years of age.
Now I still rightly or wrongly, sendra a recall Damien
McKenzie being in the New Zealand marry or was he
was that correct? Or am I dreaming that?

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
I'm pretty sure you're right there. I don't think. I
don't think you're you've you've knotted off and are having
a dream about that, Calvin. We'll check, but I'm pretty
sure he's played for the New Zealand Molory Year or
the Moldy All Blacks.

Speaker 13 (01:00:19):
Yeah, well he's a he's a good man. He's got
he's a redhead, you know, a ginger blue eyes and
white skin soas and he's a married team good on him.
He's only a small bugger too. No, he's going great
now that you put me down for the Chiefs a
big time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Well, well I will, Calvin, And there was never any
doubt that you would go that way. Yes, he has.
He has played for the Maori All Blacks. Damien McKenzie,
just getting confirmation of that that he I'm just trying
to get the against the lines in twenty seventeen, Thank
you very much. Indeed, Andy any McDonald doing his uh
his wonderful researching in the background. So yes, Damien McKenzie

(01:00:59):
has played for the maldy All Blacks. It's it's we
talked about this during the week when he signed his
new deal. You know, it's that's such an interesting time
around that first five position. Boden Barrett is back for
the Blues tonight. Speaking of first fives, how will that go?
Hopefully well for the Blues. They hope he as many
games the mist he didn't play the Chiefs or the Crusaders.

(01:01:20):
Did he bote in Barrett, But he is back in
the starting side tonight. I was thinking about this yesterday
from a Hurricanes' point of view, and of course, you
know they will. They'll be looking to bounce back from
a very ordinary start to the season for them, given
the fact that they were, you know, across the round
robin the best team last year, lost to the Crusaders,
beat the Druer, then lost to the Blues, lost in

(01:01:41):
more one in Pacifica, so down the barrel of one
win from the first four games squeaked in against the
Highlanders beat the Warritars comfortably a week ago. As a
Hurricanes fan, I just worry a little bit about the
Blues tonight and just the desperation inside that team because
you know, they had that loss at Eden Park it
was two weeks ago, wasn't it, Because they're coming off

(01:02:03):
the buye and they were so poor that night. Blues
so below where we expect them to be, or certainly
below where they were last year. Last year they just
they were like a juggernaut. Last year they just rolled
on and on and on and swept all before them.

(01:02:24):
But this season has been a very different story. It's
it's very similar, isn't it to what happened with the
Crusaders last year off the back of their success not
just the year before that, but the years plural before that.
But you look at the Blue side that is going
to take the field tonight and it is quite different,
quite different from the side that lost to the Crusaders.
Even though you looked at that team that played the
Crusader and say, well, there's a fair sprinkling of all

(01:02:46):
blacks and there's still a fair amount of you know,
particularly in the backs where you had Caleb Clarke on
one wing, Mark Tlayer on the other and ricco Yowanni
at center. You know, three first choice all blacks really
in their positions. Stephen Petifetta was at first five that night,
Harry Plummer came off the bench from memory and slaughtered

(01:03:07):
in there quite early on in the piece. Finm like
Christy came off the bench. But anyway, tonight's game, I
just it feels like it's a more formidable Blues side.
Boden Barrett for starters in at first five, Patrick Twey,
Pilot Tou who missed the Crusaders game. He was in
a moonboot, but clearly has recovered from that. He seems
to have remarkable powers of recovery. Patrick Twey Plot two,

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he's back in there tonight. Anton Segner, who wasn't in
the team against the Crusaders, having played in a variety
of positions. Actually he's in the number six jersey tonight.
That's he's played all the loose forward positions from the
start now or will have no he was in the
blind side position for the first game. So Anton Segna

(01:03:51):
has become a pretty important part of this of this
Blues side. And yeah, Patrick two Poloto as I mentioned,
and Boden Barrett too, So yeah, it just feels like
they're a better side. Stephen Petterfetta will come off the
bench tonight, so that's a change for him. Nine nine

(01:04:12):
two is our text line. Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is our phone number. Thanks Dana Pinty. The
Blues are like your phoenix getting smashed as common. That's
a bit harsh on the Blues, I have to say,
it's a bit harsh on the Blues. Speaking of football
though there was a game this afternoon as well. I
was bringing a piece on in the Herald this morning
about how Auckland sports fans are just absolutely spoilt for

(01:04:36):
choice this weekend. They've got so many things that they
can get along to, either to get to or to
take in Albany this afternoon on the North Shore, Mowana
Pacifica up against the Warratars at five past two. Then
you can get across if you've if you want to

(01:04:57):
to go Media Stadium where Auckland FC up against Western
Sydney Wanderers that's at five o'clock, or if you would
rather get straight to Eden Park there is the Super
Rugby opicky clash between the Blues women and the Hurricanes
POI at around four thirty and then tonight of course
of Eden Park Blues Hurricanes. So spoilt for choice if

(01:05:18):
you're in the Auckland region, interested to know what's taking
your what's catching your attention, what's taking your fancy this afternoon,
Auckland sports fans, or are you just going to sort
of watch and listen from a distance. New Zealand is
sixty for one, sixty for one near the end of
the tenth over, batting first against Pakistan at Mount Monganery

(01:05:38):
Bayoval and Mount Monganery forty two overs aside. This game
there was a delayed start because the rain had affected
the pitch overnight, but they got it dried out. It's
a nice day in the Mount, so forty two overs
a side and New Zealand at the end of the
tenth over our sixty one for one race Muddy, who
is making a pretty good fist of playing for New Zealand.
This guy that I've been talking about for a long

(01:05:59):
time down in Canterbury. He's thirty four not out off
that many balls, a couple of sixers and four fourths.
Henry Nichols also garnered to run a ball now eighteen
unbeaten off eighteen deliveries. New zually on sixty one for
one in the tenth over. The man out as Nick Kelly,
who was dismissed for three when the score was thirteen.
So these two are building nicely. A second BIK of partnership.

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Tim Seifert is back into the side today as well.
I don't think he's going to keep wicket. I think
Mitch Hay will keep the gloves. But Tim Seifert's come
into the squad to stiffen up the batting. With Nathan
Smith dropping out, I guess that means they have to
find those ten overs elsewhere all of my b ten
overs will it only be eight overs with a forty
two over a side situation. But they can get those

(01:06:40):
overs out of the likes of Braceweiller, Bass, Duffy, Seers,
O'Rourke Daryl Mitchell could bowl a couple if need be,
so I'm pretty sure they'll be able to get the
forty two overs out no problem at all. Twenty five
to two. Let's take a break. When we come back
across the Tasman, we go Adam Peacock, our regular Australian correspondent,
talking about Super rugby and how these four Australian sides
have all ended up inside the top six. Were across

(01:07:03):
the Tasman in a moment. Text line remains open on
eighty ten eighty nine, two ninety two on text. Just
a text before we go. I know there's a lot
of sport on in New Zealand, but please don't forget
practice three and qualifying for Formula one today and this
evening lean Lean. Absolutely we will not forget that, as
we understand that the next or the third practice session

(01:07:25):
just after three o'clock and then qualifying a couple of
hours after that sort of five six o'clock tonight, and
then the race tomorrow at five. We're absolutely not forgetting that.
I get the feeling our sports news will be led
by that a little bit later on. And then I
mentioned last hour, but it bears repeating. David Coulthard is
our guest on the show tomorrow after midday, by which
stage will know the starting positions on the grid, how

(01:07:47):
Lawson's looking, how Sonoda's looking for Stappan as well, and
all of the others. David Coulthard's a Red Bull ambassador
as well. I mean, I'm not exactly sure what that means,
but he will have no doubt some insight if he's
able to give it to us of what happened with
the Laws and Sonoda switch. You know we've gone over
there quite a bit in the last week. I don't

(01:08:08):
want to religate old old stuff, but yeah, have a
chat to David about that. But don't worry, Leanne. We
have not forgotten Formula one. Absolutely not the case at all.
Back in a sec note Across the Tasman with Adam Peacock.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
You be the TMO have your say on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Vain and GJ. Gunnerholmes,
New Zealand's most trusted home builder news Dogs, they'd.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Be coming up twenty to two. Across the Tasman and
sec from Paul. He sent in his predictions for Super Rugby.
In normal circumstances, says Paul, the Drewer might win, but
the Crusaders have a do or die game they must
win to even be considered a good team anymore. Well,
I honestly think that the Drawer are probably favorite. But no, sorry, Paul,

(01:08:52):
I shouldn't digress from your your thoughts. But okay, so
I've got the Crusaders up there, the Blues over the
Hurricanes for me, says Paul. Well, they will lose the
following week Highlands forced fifty to fifty. It really is.
I checked the odds before that. The Force are a
dollar sixty favorites for that game over the Highlanders. I

(01:09:13):
think it's way more fifty to fifty than that. Yes,
the Force are in the top six, and yes the
Highlanders have been a bit underwhelming in the last month
or so, but I still I don't know. Again, it's
perhaps a situation where they are desperate to find you
a sceric of form and getting themselves back into the
top six race. Lost to the Brumbies over in Canberra

(01:09:34):
last weekend, but there's no disgrace in that. I guess
you got to get all the way to Perth. They
would have stayed there, they wouldn't they the Highlanders. They
would have stayed over there and sort of just jumped
on a plane across the Perth. Last time the Highlanders
won a game was that more one of PACIFICA match
on the twenty eighth of February. It's the fifth of April. Now,
as I said, they beat the Blues, they beat more
on a PACIFICA two wins from their first three and
that narrow loss first up against the Waratars over there,

(01:09:58):
so only a try from memory right at the end
of that game that gave the war Retars to win.
The Highlanders were ahead at the eighty minute mark and
lost at thirty seven thirty six anyway, So Highlanders and
Warrators over more one for me, says Paul. Thanks Paul,
appreciate you taking the time to send us your thoughts.
Yours are welcome as well. Are eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty or nine two ninety two on the text machine.

(01:10:18):
Just tell us yeah, as Paul has who you got
in these four games, the first of which is only
about twenty five minutes away. Nathan Limb has the call
for you on gold Sport and iHeartRadio. Andy Duff executive
producer of our rugby coverage this afternoon. So nothing will
go wrong. I can tell you that Australian correspondent Adam
Peacock is with us.

Speaker 14 (01:10:39):
Has your week been made a bit of a quiet
one ahead of Champions League returning next week when as
the Quacks go back over here this weekend? So yes,
that can be a pretty alarm clock. So I need
all the busy stiff I can get before the big
stuff quarterfinals over there kick off.

Speaker 11 (01:10:57):
So it should be great looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
All right, some Australian sporting matters to discuss today. Let's
up with a super rugby table. All four Australian teams
in the top six right now. The Read's golf beaton
and the rain last night by the Chicks, but they're
still on the top six. Do you think the removal
of the rebels, the distribution of talent across four teams
and not five, has been a big part of this.

Speaker 14 (01:11:17):
Yeah, yeah, it's been affect I think a couple of
maybe also players not going given what's on here in
the next couple of years, namely with the Lions two
here and then maybe the World Cup might be a
bit out of stretch for twenty twenty seven. But it's
maybe in a back of some players' minds that ordinarily
those players might have gone and taken overseas opportunities, but

(01:11:39):
maybe hung around just to stay in front of like
front of mine for selectors and things. So yeah, a
few factors, and the fact I think where they're at
at the moment, the drawers have gone to a couple
of our teams. Samely the warts have. You didn't even
have to go there or it felt like for the
first month of the season that they got my owner

(01:12:01):
pacificate today obviously, but yeah, as soon as you sent
me that message, mate, oh let's talk about the your
fixt sense do really well you're going to have last night,
So yeah, thanks for that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Look, I didn't mean to jinx anything. And to be fair,
what's that game and the Reds weren't so till quite
near the end. So look, it's I think from our
point of view over here, we've always wanted a competition
that's some that's you know, got Jeopardy week to week,
game to game, and that's what we're getting.

Speaker 14 (01:12:25):
Yeah, and I mean how long did it go piney
when I think there's this ridiculous streak where not one
super rugby side from over here beat one super rugby
side from over there. Yeah, it was insane. I think
with the Yeah, the distribution of talent not as stretched
because let's face it, we don't have bottomless pit over here.
That that's probably the overriding factor.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Just all right, long mate, continual, Let's go to rugby league,
where the state of origin eligibility rules have been in
the news this week.

Speaker 14 (01:12:51):
Tell us more about this, Yeah, this is a really
odd story that not an odd story, but something that
looks like common sense has just changed. But there seems
a bit of pushback over here that. Okay, a key
one nation in rugby league is Australia, England and New Zealand.
So basically they say, if you declare your allegiance to
England like Victor Radley has done, or New Zealand internationally,

(01:13:15):
you can't play state of origin no matter where you
were born. Now may if you're eligible to play state
of origins in New South Wales or Queensland, playing your
first and your footy, I think as a teenager in
those states you can't play. But it's seems a bit
odd because you can do it if you're from Tomra
or Sama. Now, last time I checked, those two sides
are rapidly closing the gap between New Zealand, England and

(01:13:37):
Australia in l footage. So what about we kind of
repurpose these rules and not say open flather. If you
were born in New Zealand, then you come across here
and play nurl, you're all of a sudden eligible to play.
And you said, well no, it's those players who perhaps
were born over here, but elect to represent New Zealand.
Open it up, there's no harm. So yeah, I think

(01:14:00):
they need a tweet because Michael challis my colleague. On
the podcast over here the Triple Lamb made the point
that twenty years ago, not one or not one New
South player was eligible for another nation. Now seven are,
so yeah, don'thing that's to change. I think they've got
to rethink it because the demographic of player and where
they're coming from has has definitely changed with the rise

(01:14:22):
of the where these plays like the Polynesian Malanesian population,
it's Sydney massive and yeah, they've been born and bred
to you. But then I elect to play for Sama
Tima to make their family proud, which is unreal. And
you want to strengthen that international game. But don't dilute
state of Rhods and just because you've got an archaic rule.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yeah no, very well said, very well said. Let's go
to football. Sam Kirk back with the Matilda. She's been
out with her acl injury for quite some time and
of course her court case has gone on during that period.
How has her reintegration into the Matilda's been received.

Speaker 14 (01:14:57):
Yeah, yeah, great by all accounts. That the players of
loves having her back. The public as well. She was
up on the big screen a couple of times early
in this game against Korea last night. Crowd went nuts.
So yeah, any any confirmation about the fact that what
she's been through and obviously they hashett quickly she was.
She was in court for allegedly abusing a police officer

(01:15:18):
in London what two years ago now, but she was
acquitted of those charges. She made her piece with Football
Australia and they all got on the same page and
welcome her back into camp. She's not ready yet, she's
just rehabbing and continuing her rehabilitation. From an atl inside
the camp, she's nearly ready, but no. By all accounts,
the buzz around the camp was higher with having Sam

(01:15:39):
there as it would be because she's she's a positive
person with her teammates and yeah, they're like having her back.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Apparently absolute superstar. I bet I bet they are. And
just to finish, a couple of AFL fans brought their
guns to a game between Carlton and Colling. What I
shouldn't laugh? They how how did they even get the money?

Speaker 14 (01:15:59):
I had chuckled at some of the headlines in Melbourne,
which is basically something happens in AFL like that, and
it's a societal problem. Something happened like that in a
league you and I know, finding that the canceled sport.
So yeah, it's a little two faced how it's come across,
but it's a se if this matter. Obviously, we're not
not having to go at the fact that it is
an absolute serious now that these two guys are apparently

(01:16:21):
out in bail there there run. Yeah, they haven't been
on the right side of the law all their life,
put it that way. And they got in apparently they've
got these screeners that that AI based or something, and
they got in. They didn't know they're carrying on like
idiots in the ground, so they ended up getting chucked
out and when they got chucked out, they kind of
got searched. So two loaded guns, so pretty insane that

(01:16:45):
by all accounts, they weren't going to do anything. They
just you know, they're tough guys. They thought they'd walk
them through to the loaded gun, which I don't know
how you get to that stage in life, but anyway,
so do it. But yeah, pretty serious. All the security
protocols have been looked at the mcg all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Right, well, thankfully nobody was hurt in the whole thing.
Yeah maybe a yeah, maybe just a tale of increased security.
And I don't know, maybe humanized are better than AI
eyes after all, I don't know. We will leave that
for we'll leave that. Who would have thought we'll leave
that for another day? Great, Deten has always mate, enjoy
your weekend and we'll catch up next ourday.

Speaker 14 (01:17:20):
Thanks everyone, You have a go one to mate.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Allen Peacock, our regular Australian correspondent. Around this time every
Saturday afternoon, eleven to two, Nicholas has sent in his
picks for Super Rugby. First up, though, Nicholas says, matchup
of the day Zarn Sullivan against Rico Yoanni in the centers.
That will be a battle. You're so right, Bailan Sullivan
has been sorry, Bailan Sullivan, not Zaran Sullivan, bayl and

(01:17:42):
Sullivan has been playing so well, so well. He started
off at center, but he's moved into second five. It's
an odd one, they often say. You know, center and
second five are interchangeable, but in many ways, you know,
guys sort of tend to settle on one or the other.
I mean Riccae Yuanni doesn't play second five very often.
For example, but the Hurricanes had had bail And Sullivan

(01:18:04):
at center for the first five games and Peter Umuger
Jensen at second five. Last week they flipped them for
the one over the Warratas and they've kept that same combo.
So Sullivan's gone into second five and Umunger Jensen des center.
Look when they line up in a back line, either
defensively or on attack, sometimes they interchange. But in terms
of jersey number, that's interesting. Rico Yuwanni, Yes, you know,

(01:18:25):
I don't think he's had the most convincing season for
the Blues. He's started every game. He's I think one
of only two players. He and Mark Talaya are the
only two players to have started every game. And as
far as the rest of the selections, before we move
on to Nicholas the selections, he says, bizarre selection of

(01:18:47):
the day, pinety sever Reese at thirteen. What's that about?
What is that about? Down in Crusaders Country. I didn't
even know sever Reese could play at center. Ampat him
during the week, say that he might. You know that
he's played there he was growing up, But I mean
I know David Harvili is not there, so that's compelled
Dallas McLeod to go in one to second five. But

(01:19:09):
they've got Levir Moore and he played center last week.
Yes it was in a loss, so maybe he just
didn't They just don't trust Leevir Moore in the centers anymore,
or just want to try something different with sever Reese.
He's from Fiji, isn't he, So maybe he turns up
there and just has an absolute blinder in thirteen and
all of a sudden he's an option there for the
All Blacks as well. Anyway, sever Rees and the thirteen jumper.

(01:19:31):
So Nicholas's production predictions Crusaders by four, Hurricanes by eight,
Highlanders by one, Mowana Pacifica by thirteen. All right, yeah,
well yeah it could easily be the other way around,
but thanks Nicholas for sending your your predictions through quick Check.

(01:19:54):
On the black Caps before we go to the break,
they're batting first against Pakistan in a forty two over
a side match now at Bay Oval and Mount Moganui.
This is the final match of the men's international home summer,
and having been sent into bat they've reached drinks after
fourteen overs seventy five for one, seventy five for one
recemat are you thirty nine not out or forty five balls?

(01:20:14):
So going along nicely as he looks to notch up
a maiden international half century. Henry Nichols, who's been around
for a long long time. There's plenty of those twenty
seven unbeaten off thirty one balls. These two came together
when the first wik at fell out of Nick Kelly
thirteen for one, So they've had what sixty two runs
so far? Looking good. The spinners are on at Mount

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Montanui four Pakistan New Zealand's seventy five for one, batting
first in this forty two over a side game. A
Pintey apparently said, who played all his rugby at center
until he went to the Crusaders and got put on
the wing?

Speaker 13 (01:20:50):
Is that right?

Speaker 6 (01:20:51):
Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
You probably know you're a Crusaders fan? Sever rees? Did
he play at center before he got to the while
he was at the Chiefs before?

Speaker 10 (01:20:59):
Wasn't he?

Speaker 12 (01:21:00):
Was he?

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
I can't ever remember him playing center. I don't recall
him playing center for US at least, So he might be.
He might be amazing. He could be He might have
forgotten though as well. The other thing is also it's like,
I don't think I've ever seen Severa Reese pass the ball,
have you?

Speaker 9 (01:21:15):
He doesn't have to when he's on the wells faster
than everyone else on the field and runs and runs
in and the only passing he ever does is from
his hand down to the try lines.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Try line. He forces it and says, right, that's a try.

Speaker 9 (01:21:28):
That's that's that's me passing five points from from the
from my team to the scoreboard.

Speaker 5 (01:21:34):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
I don't mind it. Yes, So, I mean we always
talk about sentence having to sit up there outsides. I
hope he has a blinder. I hope Severa Reese's man
of the match at center. Let's see seven to two
news Talks.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
He be analyzing every view from every angle in the
Sporting World Weekend Sport with Jason Hie they call eighties
eight us Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Four to two After two will focus in on a
couple of big sporting fixtures in the next few hours
and go Media Stadium five o'clock this afternoon. Auckland FC
up against the Western Sydney Wanderers. Win this game at
Auckland FC will go ten points clear for the meantime anyway,
and could could secure the Premier's plate in the A
League as early as next weekend. Dan Hall back into

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the side after a long layoff with a broken ankle
and a big part of the clean sheet they kept
last week against Brisbane, so he's on the show before
three o'clock. First up though after the News Blues the Hurricanes,
Eden Park will get inside both camps Kurt Eklund out
of the Blues and Duplessi Cudifee first up from the Hurricanes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
The only place to discuss the biggest fours issues on
and after fields.

Speaker 6 (01:22:43):
It's all on Weekend Sport.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
With Jason Paine on your home of Sport New Talk.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Hello, do this is Weekend Sport on News Talks. He'd
be until three. Tim Beverage will take over after that.
Lots to get through before we can hand over though.
As you heard during our Sports news, New Zealand have
lost their second wicked of Mount Bonganui. Henry Nicholls out
for thirty one, New Zealand ninety one for two in
the eighteenth over Reese Mario's brought up his maiden international
half century unbeaten on fifty off fifty five balls at

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the moment, joined by Daryl Mitchell, who's faced three balls
without yet scoring ninety one for two. It's a forty
two overmatch to finish out the international home summer meantime,
on Auckland's north shore at North Harbor Stadium, Albany, they're
underway between Wana Pacifica and the Waratars. What on earth
is going on with these shirts?

Speaker 5 (01:23:35):
Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
What is going on with these shirts? Who is who?

Speaker 6 (01:23:39):
Who is who?

Speaker 9 (01:23:40):
Well, poney, pony, and I'll make it easy for you.
In blue is Minor Pacifica and in blue is the
war Retars.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Did that clear that up? I mean my Wana Pacifica
are slightly darker blue, and that is it?

Speaker 6 (01:23:53):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:23:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:23:55):
Well kind of like the shorts are the same color
as the Waratar's shirts, yes, and vice versa. Yeah, and
the Waratars shirts of the and shure it's the same
as mine and Pacifica's shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
So this sort of back to front I suppose. I'm
not sure what's going on. What I can tell you
is they're underway and there is no score through ninety
seconds of this game. We'll keep you up to date
with that and with the cricket and anything else that
jumps into our radar as well. This out Duplicy Codifi
out of the Hurricanes, Kurdkland out of the Blues, dan
hallland of Auckland FC. As we look forward to a

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big few hours ahead in the City of Sales. Before
we get to any of that, though, as we always
do around about this time on weekend sport, let's get
you up to date with some of the things that
you might have missed in case you missed it, as
the name of the feature, and we start with golf,
the Valero Texas Open and an ace for Tony final.

Speaker 6 (01:24:55):
Good line again, that's one way to get inside.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
The number of yeah holdand one for Tony Fenale still
a bit off the pace though tied for thirty eighth
kee we Ryan Fox though has missed the Cup, tied
for one hundred and thirty thirty won't play the weekend
to the A League and MacArthur picking up a big
win over the woefully out of form Brisbane Raw in Brisbane.

Speaker 6 (01:25:22):
Now it's a seventh added type silver to send it
in and Sire does get his car maybe with the
last touch to the ball of the night.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
That's up Cot five one MacArthur over Brisbane. Liam Lawson
impressive in practice session number two at the Japanese Grand Prix.

Speaker 8 (01:25:44):
Who with Piastri we go now towards spoot Curve, such
a crucial corner.

Speaker 15 (01:25:48):
As Lawson goes third fastest to get right on entry.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Add that to the on exit too, so Liam Lawson
finishing the disrupted practice session with the fifth fastest time
ahead of both of the Red Bull cars. Third practice
session coming up in about an hour or so, then
qualifying later on tonight, the race tomorrow and in the
the NRL. South Sydney had the better of the roosters
in their blood feud or looking.

Speaker 8 (01:26:10):
At field goal, they couldn't have done it any better.

Speaker 6 (01:26:14):
With sous Are up.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
Shallow, Mitchell shows up for pass.

Speaker 8 (01:26:19):
What a show that what a starf tat Staff in
the quarner.

Speaker 6 (01:26:25):
That is remarkable.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Twenty fourteen they're in favor of the Bunnies. Also, the
Penrith Panthers have gone for in a row. But shockingly
it's four losses in a row for the Panthers as
they fell to New Depths losing to the Cowboys. They
need to score right here.

Speaker 10 (01:26:42):
It's Kennyth dummy half he goes to Cleary shows a
clean out, the back comes back to the middle, Schneider
puts it down, Clifford curses the era and the Cowboys
have run for the second week.

Speaker 8 (01:26:57):
In a row.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Breaking down the hail Mary's and the epic fields Weekend
Sport with Jason Vine, new Stalk Envy incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
The Penrith Panthers continue to show they are human after all.
No Nathan Clary though, of course, which is a big
part of all of that. He was there last night,
all right, even he couldn't rescue them. Goodness me, Penrith,
what's going on? I guess all dynasties do have to
come to an end at some point. Let's go to
Super Rugby Blues Hurricanes, Eden Park just after seven tonight

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on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio. They've picked it up from.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
The both Roy Guard the Little sell and go. He's
boken through.

Speaker 12 (01:27:33):
He's got crave on the inside.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Tuplicy can Ave is away, Tupy Cave Star.

Speaker 5 (01:27:39):
Thirty eight minu hen he loves it.

Speaker 16 (01:27:41):
Can Right Guard, welcome back, the Canes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Are up by five to know our nice work. Cross
Bond on the commentary, Hurricanes loose forward and co captain
Duplasy Kadifi is with us here on Weekend Sport. Thanks
for joining us on game day, Duplicity, as you look
to break out of some early season inconsistency. How big
a result has significant a result and a performance was
last weekend's big win over the Waratars in Wellington.

Speaker 16 (01:28:06):
The last week's game was it's the awesome I guess
note to the coaching and work we've been doing throughout
the week, so it was really nice to just see
things click in a sense and build a little bit
of momentum following on from the Hollander's winning the Bie week,
so you know, hopefully we can build on that again
this evening against the Blues.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
When you look back on the first four games of
the season, just the one win there, as you were
trying to work out, you know, what was going on,
were you able to put your finger on any specific
reasons for the slow ish start.

Speaker 16 (01:28:40):
Yeah, it's a good question, I think, you know, yeah,
there is probably a few things that you could probably
I guess look towards. But I think just we've seen
in the Highlanders game a real trust in our system,
especially on defense, and I think that flowed on to
the to the Warrtars game. But you just saw the

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boys playing with a real sense of connection, trust and
each other, trust in the plan, and you know that
that held us in good stead. So yeah, I would
I would tend to say that might be one of
the one of the big rocks that we kind of.

Speaker 11 (01:29:18):
Have looked to fix.

Speaker 16 (01:29:19):
But yeah, it's probably a few other things.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Just on that defensive system and the trust in that system.
It's an interesting concept to me. So what does that
look like when there is full trust in a defensive system?

Speaker 12 (01:29:31):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Is it basically knowing that that your teammates are going
to do what's required of them as long as you
do what's required of you.

Speaker 16 (01:29:40):
Yeah, to put it as simply as possible, it's trusting
that just like you say, the guy next to he's
going to do his job, which means you won't see
boys go out of said system or you know, try
to make things happen for the group. They just do
what as required of them in their particular moment, knowing
that someone else is going to do the same in

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the next moment. So yeah, it's pretty much like that.
You know, we've got fifteen boys on the field, and
you know if we're not trusting each other and boys
are trying to step on each other's toes and do
do X y Z, and it's it's not going to help.
So yeah, that's kind of yeah, like you say, that's
how it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
The Hurricanes have probably the most stacked loose forward unit
in the whole comp There's yourself, Braidon, You'll see Peter Larkeye,
Brad Shields. All of you have had at least one
game off the bench. Brandon and Peter have played in
different positions. How does that loose forward dynamic work during
the week as you're prepare for the role that each
of you us asked to play in each game.

Speaker 16 (01:30:44):
Yeah, we're really we're really blessed, I guess with the
talent and the not just the talent, but the work
ethic that we have within our listrio. You know, we
were boys that we're at home they haven't played yet,
that are challenging us every week. Johnnie Halloeyla Patrick reci
even Devin Flanders he's coming back from a broken ankle.

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So you know, we're we're really lucky in their sense
and the group works really well to you to figure
out what what the boys who are playing need and
we go after that. So yeah, it's a massive challenge.
And I don't en be our coaches trying to pick
the tree each week because you know, any number of
us could start week and week out. So I think

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as players and as a group, our focus is just
to put our best foot forward and make that decision
as hard as possible for the coaches, and then once
they make the decision, just trust that they're making the
decision for the right reasons and work of that. And
so you know, testament to Brad, he was on the
bench last week and he's there again, but you would
never you would never tell if you were talking to

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him throughout the week. Nothing changes around his breath and
how he leads the group. Heiece fully supportive of the
three that are starting. And yeah, I just have an
extreme admiration for players like that who don't change whether
they're starting on the bench or not playing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Yeah, total pro that's for sure. When you review your
own performance, as dupes, when you on a Monday or
whenever it is, review your own performance, what are the
metrics or the stats that you pay particular attention.

Speaker 16 (01:32:17):
To look at a lie party, I don't look at
any stets, I just look at whether I'm effective or not.
And so an example of that is, there's a ruck
that I need a claim. Have I done a good
Am I effective there and done exactly what we need

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in that moment, you know, to produce goodball for a
half bit, there's a tackle that needs to be made. Yeah,
I could make the tackle in their counts as a
tackle made, but you know, is it an effective tackle?
Is it a dominant tackle? So yeah, just to shed
a little bit of line in your Christian I don't
really look at stats because I don't think stets pay

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the whole picture. I look at whether or not what
I did in the moment benefited our team in a
positive way or if it put us on the bad foot.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
So yeah, good answer. I do have a step. I
do have a step for you. Though you've you personally
have only conceded two penalties in six games this season.
Is that a part of the game that you have
specifically worked hard on? I mean, look, you and I've
spoken about this on the past. You know I used
to give up penalties. You know you don't give them

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up very often at all. Now, is it a work
on that you have specifically focused on.

Speaker 16 (01:33:34):
It is definitely a work on that I've focused on,
but I haven't focused on not giving away penalties. Are
focused on just being better and making better decisions, and
the penalty count as a byproduct.

Speaker 14 (01:33:46):
Of that, I hope.

Speaker 16 (01:33:50):
Yeah, it's something that I'm really really proud of. But
it's no like, yeah, I guess it's no biggie because
at the end of the day, that's all we want
for our players is to be reliable and not give
away penalties. So yeah, in a sense, I'm actually just
doing my job. So yeah, I think I've just yeah,
I've just really worked on my decision making. And I

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think early on in my career, especially you know, twenty nineteen,
twenty twenty one, a lot of those penalities were driven
by ego me thinking that I could get something that
you know definitely could not get, you know, like and
then we allude back to the trust, which we talked
about it out of the start of the interview. There

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wasn't a lot of trust from me in the system,
whereas now I don't need to put myself out there
in a compromised position because I know that we might
get the ball back a few phases later or someone
else is going to do it in a better position.
So yeah, it is a it's a byproduct, I guess,
the penal account of just making better decisions and trusting everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Well, it's part of your game. That is part of
the whole game, which is turning a lot aheads your
performances this season. Most people are picking you to make
the All Blacks this year. Uh are you aware of
that noise?

Speaker 16 (01:35:10):
Yeah, you didn't know. I guess be under a rock
not to not to see it and feel it. But
I think I'm mature enough now to not take any
of it in my stride, not you know, like not
let it thick me. If they think my week, I
think my prep just taking it in my stride. You,
for example, plenty of a lot of respect to you,

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so I always want to give you my time. But
I don't feel like, you know, doing media is something
that has a negative effect on me. Yeah, it's just
part of the job, really, And at the end of
the day, it's not up to me. It's not up
to the media hopex the thing. It's up to the
after the big dogs. And you know, if I'm in

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that picture Soviet, if I'm not, then all I can
do is play well for the Hurricane and at the moment,
you know, that's something I'm extremely passionate about and so
hopefully we can. Yeah, hopefully I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Put my beast for forward for our You're certainly doing that.
And last week you recommitted to the Hurricanes and New
Zealand Rugby through until the end of twenty twenty seven.
Like I'm sure you could have. You could have earned
a lot more money overseas. How big was the lure
of of the black jersey and your your love for
this Hurricanes club and your decision to stay.

Speaker 16 (01:36:28):
Yeah, it was messive. I wouldn't say it was. I
wouldn't say it was the whole piece of the Like,
was the whole reason for me to stay. A lot
of the decision decision came around fulfillment leaving and having
water kind of questions floating in the back of my mind,

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feeling like I wasn't using my you know, my best
rugby years to their full extent. So yeah, a lot
of it actually was that they were just just knowing
that I had a little bit more to gourb or
more to gurb and and things. I guess that I'm
out the way we wanted them to. Then at least
I know and within myself that I gave them my

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all and I can be at peace in a sense.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
All right, let's circle back to tonight to finish the
Blues just the one win in their six games against you. Actually,
even given that, how threatening an opponent do you expect
them to beat in part tonight?

Speaker 12 (01:37:26):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (01:37:27):
Massively, there's no. Yeah, there's no two ways about it.
They're having a you know, they'll be the first to
admit that they're having a rough season, but that does
not mean that on the night they can they can't
beat anyone. So we know that they're raigning champs. They've
got a lot of boys coming back from injury this
week and they're calling me side a lot of a
lot of experience in their group, So you know, the

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challenge in front of us is one that we're we're
extremely aware of, one that we're really looking forward to
as well, and we know that last time down and
down in Wellington we probably didn't play to our standards
as well, So you know, extremely extremely dexcited to be
playing and we know that the Blues are going to present.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
A mess of absolutely good on your thanks indeed, for
the chap made all the best tonight. That's duplicit codify.
Out of the Hurricanes Blues their opponent tonight, Kurt Ecklund
out of the Blues with us shortly. What an impressive
guy like you know, very biased of course because the
Hurricanes are my team, but I don't think you have
to be one eye to see that he is having
a terrific season. Duplaicit codify. And the race for that

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seven jersey in the All Blacks is a race with
him in it now, There's no question about it. He really,
if you look across the New Zealand sides, is probably
the form seven across the New Zealand teams. You look
at the Crusaders and Ethan blackatter I see is coming
off the bench tonight. He's He's worn seven though for
the Crusaders for four games this season, so he's obviously

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in the conversation. I actually really like what I've seen
from Sean Withe as well from the Highlanders or they
see he's playing number eight tonight and has the last
little while there is this versatility that comes into it.
Of course. Up in Chiefs Country, the likes of Luke Jacobson,
although oddly he hasn't played seven. It's been been others

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who have been in the seven jumper there and of
course for the Blues you land on Dalton Papal. Another
good battle tonight, you know, the battle of the sevens.
We talked before too about the battle of the of
the midfielders tonight, in particular Sullivan up against Yowanne. Well,
not that sevens necessarily go head to head, but you
can certainly at the end of tonight look at it
and say who stood out more, Dalton Papale or duplas

(01:39:42):
koifiet the feeling we will get the you know, get
further clarity perhaps around who the form number seven is
in the competition by watching that game tonight. I mean
I think Dalton Papoali, by his own admission, would say, look,
he hasn't had an absolute standout season, but you know
he's a quality footballer, a quality player inside the Blues

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camp at a moment. This from a short time go
though at North Harbor Stadium, Albany on the North Shore,
courtesy of gold Sport.

Speaker 17 (01:40:11):
Attacking open side left now for Kitty flings the ball
out to Swale bit a space numbers on the outside quotes.

Speaker 8 (01:40:17):
The passover O'Reilly tight time in the left corner. Tars
gone five nil four a half gone a golf sport night.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Hard right out Nathan Linn with the call of a
Waratar's try which was converted, so seven nil. They lead
the Warritars seven nil over Winea Pacifica at Albany, with
about twenty minutes gone in that game and New Zealand
had lost another wicke at Reece, Martio has been dismissed.
He did get through to fifty though a maiden fifty
in national colors for Reece. Mardio dismissed for fifty eight.

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New Zealander one hundred and ten for three in the
twenty second over. With Tim Seifert back in the team
the one to eighteen for the first time since twenty nineteen,
he's joined Darryl Mitchell siphon. I'm beaten on one and
Mitchell on ten, one hundred and ten for three, batting
first in the twenty second of forty two overs two
twenty five on the dot. When we come back, we're

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into the Blues camp. Kurt Ecklund to join us after this.

Speaker 4 (01:41:08):
It's more than just a game.

Speaker 1 (01:41:10):
Weekend sport with Jason Hyne and TJ. Gunnomes New Zealand's
most trusted home builder.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
News Talks MB two twenty eight on News Talks EDB
Super Rugby Round eight continues Tonight Blues Hurricanes Eden Park
seven o'clock kickoff on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio. They march
forward the Blues as Christy Pickins and more players from
the backline marching towards the twilight over. They go Kurt
Eckland the try for the Blues and they are packing it.

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I don't even know when that game was.

Speaker 6 (01:41:38):
When was that game?

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
I don't even remember that try, calling that try from
Kurt Eckland. When was it the start of last season?

Speaker 9 (01:41:46):
Money Kurt Eckland tryvus the Hurricanes, obviously because you were
commentating that, I'm glad you picked what he was playing
for the Phoenix for some reason. I'm glad you picked
out that try. Kurt Eckland himself will be delighted, I'm
sure he joins us. Now, thanks for your time, just
a second appearance of the season for you. So what
was the injury that kept out for the first month

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or so of the season.

Speaker 12 (01:42:09):
It's been a bit of a frustrating one of.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
Torn where my.

Speaker 12 (01:42:15):
What is it? My editor ad meets my where I'm
supposed to have ads?

Speaker 16 (01:42:22):
It torn that.

Speaker 12 (01:42:23):
Anyways, it's been a bit of a frustrating one. I've
got a bit of a Scots issue there that keeps
getting reaggravated. And you know, it's on a good course
coming back for that Chiefs game, but probably a little
bit too much too soon sort of thing. So having
missed the following game and having by which I think
has given a good time to settled down and be
ready for tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
All right, so you feel like it, I mean, I
guess you can never be entirely certain, can you, But
you feel like like you'll be able to get a
run of games and now that this is kind of
behind you, Yeah, I'm hoping that.

Speaker 12 (01:42:53):
I think I'm just around my management of load and
things like that throughout the week and then the way
we're playing the games. If I'm smarter about that, then yeah,
hopefully it's just so be a good run into the
rest of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
I guess nobody likes to be injured. But how how
doubly frustrating was it watching on as the Blues you know,
endured a pretty tough start of the season and you
weren't really able to do too much about it.

Speaker 12 (01:43:15):
Yeah, it's tough, mate, Like you know, you're in their
environments and you feel are hurt, you know, and I've
been able to get out there to help or try
and you know, ye do your thing to help the team.
As frustrating, but you know, you can only support the
boys where you can, and that's what I was trying
to do, mate, Just try and keep the level of

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energy and enthusiasm up. And you know, I think, like
we're still going a really good team and we only
missed out in a couple of games by like one
or two points, So I've been there there, you know.
Once we make it all click and hopefully that's tonight,
then yeah, things start going our way.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Oh, no doubt. You're a good team. There's there's absolutely
no question about there. With a couple of others coming
back and as well yourself, but also a couple of
ye your big big players, Patrick Doop a lot to
Bote and boar It both back in the mix. How
influent influential are those guys around your environment?

Speaker 12 (01:44:07):
Yeah, that are great leaders and the experience and probably
the composure that they bring to the team is you know,
probably what we need at this time of the season.
So you know, we'll be looking forward to having them
back out on the field and see what they can do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
Unfortunately, they you've lost your front row mate or for
talking the fussy for the rest of the season. I'm
sure you're all getting around him to add support. But
how big a loss is he?

Speaker 12 (01:44:32):
Yeah, again, he's one of those players like you just
mentioned before. You know, the experience and maturity that he
brings to the team is huge. You know, he's going
to be like greatly missed. He's been great for their
young front rows and has been for the last few years,
you know, really helped getting around them, learning their roles
and things like that. But you know we've got some

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young boys as well who can step up and take
their opportunity now. But you know, well we'll still get
around Offer and he'll he'll be in and around the
camp and stuff like that, so you know, I'm sure
he'll still be involved as much as he as a
or U.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
Let's talk on field stuff, Kurt, Well, what have you
mainly focused on in the past week or so building
up towards tonight in your quest? You know, to turn
things around and to start to gain some consistency.

Speaker 12 (01:45:17):
Yeah, well that's a big thing. Consistency. We talk about,
you know, being good in patches, but been able to
play the game for the whole eighty basics man, And
that's like any rugby game. You know, you you now
your basics, you hold onto the boy right into the field,
and then you know, things start going your way. So
I think just three if we've got a game plan

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that seems pretty drummed into us, and everyone seems pretty
clear on the role that they need to be taken.
So you know, it's been a good week of training too.
The intensity has been good. I think the break, the
week off has let everyone just refresh, get away from
ugbly a little bit, and come back with a bit
of enthusiasm.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
The nature of your role of it's always interested me
in the hooking role in that it's very rare these
days to play eighty minutes and and you know you
play a mixed don't. I think last year you applied
a mix of starting hook or an impact hooker. Swapping
sometimes from week to week, are the roles quite different
if you're wearing two rather than sixteen or vice versa.

Speaker 12 (01:46:18):
I think, like for a mindset, they're a little bit
different because when you're starting, you're getting all the reps
throughout the week, you're getting everything that you need, and
when you're coming off the bench, you probably get a
little bit less around training. So your mindset around your
homework and your clarity has to be right on because

(01:46:39):
you aren't getting as many reps. And then when you're
coming off the bench, you've got to be very clear
because you don't have time to like work out what's
going well. You've got the time on the bench to
work that what's going on, but you just got to
slot in where when you're starting, you know, if you
feel the game out a little bit, see how things
are flying. But once you're coming off the bench, you

(01:47:01):
really got a job to lift the energy. Now you're
set peace and you've got to slip in seamlessly. Does
that make sense?

Speaker 6 (01:47:09):
It makes it?

Speaker 12 (01:47:10):
It does?

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
It makes perfect sense. Yeah, No, it's great insight tonight.
Of course, you don't have to worry about coming off
the bench starting. Do you do you look across the
you know, across the other team, and do you do
you have a personal battle with the opposition hooker Tonight
I suffer a more pretty powerful, pretty powerful ball runner.
Do you have a personal battle with the opposition?

Speaker 12 (01:47:29):
Hooker's good players isn't here? Yeah, he's big boy too personal.
I don't know if it's personal, but you never want
to go out in a game and get one taking
over you? Is it? What am I trying to say?
You never want somebody to get one over you?

Speaker 14 (01:47:45):
Yep, especially if he's your opposition.

Speaker 12 (01:47:48):
So personal, I'm not too sure. You know, like stuff
as a god dude, may you know mind him at all?
But you know, when it comes to like I said,
you never want your opposition to get one over this.
You know, you get out, You get out there and
do everything you can to make sure that doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Yeah, and there's still plenty of time left this season.
Do you feel as though it'll just take one performance perhaps,
or maybe that consistency of a couple of wins in
a row to spring board yourselves back to where you
really want to be as you look to defend your title.

Speaker 12 (01:48:17):
Yeah, I think seriously made If we can get this
one on tomorrow, then you know the positivity and the
energy are really listing Just for the confidence, I think,
not that we lack in confidence, but you know, winning
is contagious and if you can get one or two
under your belt then things just have a flowing affair
from that. So made if we can get this one

(01:48:38):
over the line tonightw it'll be huge.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Outstanding, Hey kurk, great to get the chance to chat
to you, mate, all the best. Great to have you
back from injury as well, and all the best against
the Gaines. Thank you, Brett, Thank you, Kurt, Kurt Eklin.
There back into the two jumper tonight for the Blues
against the Hurricanes. A very very interesting proposition, this one.
No way really of knowing. I don't think who's going
to win it. I see the Blues are favorites at
the tab. That would have to be by home advantage

(01:49:01):
only and the fact maybe they've got a couple of
their they're more important players back the likes of to
be Pu lot to Inbode and Barratt. But yeah, it
Canes are a chance, especially after the way they dealt
to the Waratars last weekend. Speaking of who this from
a short time to go a short time ago at
North Harbor Stadium.

Speaker 8 (01:49:17):
It's Swalli straight through the gap, Joseph Swali in space
up to the tent. He's going to play on the inside.
Tristan Riley, there's no one in front of him. Tristan
Roddy's gonna run it for the try at war Tars
are gonna go intoed. Tristan Riley gets two twelve No,
the Warrtars leads twenty three. Got a Godsport and iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (01:49:36):
Now, I think by their own admission a week ago,
the war Tars were very very average, particularly in the
second half against the Hurricanes where I think the Cane's
got thirty three unanswered points or something. The Warritars opened
the scoring and then scored early in the second half,
but that was it anyway. They've scored two unanswered tries
against Mana Pacifica who had by most metrics, their best
ever victory last weekend against the Crusaders. So again week

(01:49:59):
to week, game to game, you just do not know
what's going to happen in Super Rugby. You can hear
full commentary of all all games involving the New Zealand
sides on gold Sport and iHeartRadio right across this Super
Rugby season just on the Cricket one twenty nine for
three New Zealand one twenty nine for three about to
become one thirty one for three as Tim seiferd and

(01:50:21):
Daryl Mitchell are together. We're in the twenty fifth over
or near the end of it, only forty two overs
side Mount Montganuit Seiphered nineteen and Mitchell on thirteen not
out one twenty nine for three after twenty five one
thirty one for three after twenty five overs at Bay Oval.
We'll change the shape of the ball from oval to

(01:50:44):
round when we come back. Auckland f C can take
another big step towards the Premier's plate in the A
League Men's if they can beat the Western Sydney Wanderers
at go Media Stadium in a few hours from now.
Dan Hall, big part of their side, back into the
team after a long time out with a broken ankle.
He'll join us next here on news Talk seit b the.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
Tough questions off the turf weekends for it. It's Jason
him and GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
News Dogs nineteen to three ten haul out of Auckland
f C in just a moment. But Mawna Pacifica have
finally arrived in the rugby game after thirty minutes in
deepended so.

Speaker 8 (01:51:19):
Well so by Tavia right top, go back to the left,
bustling it up, Savia.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
Can you get the ball down?

Speaker 8 (01:51:23):
No, just shorton picking go now from side to op
ow he's over the line type time Mowanna.

Speaker 6 (01:51:29):
They're on the board.

Speaker 8 (01:51:30):
Fourteen to five on the right hand side of the
field and it's side to how with the trip majana.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
And converted by Patrick Palegrini, So fourteen seven. Now the
Waratars lead Mowana pacifica with about two or three minutes
to go in the first half there at Albany Auckland
FC Western Sydney Wanderers this afternoon, five o'clock Go Media Stadium.

Speaker 7 (01:51:53):
That's the last opportunity of the contest. Auckland too strong
in this battle of first versus second from bottom. The
form guide respected, the league table respected, and most importantly,
seven points clear the top the standings with just five

(01:52:15):
matches left to play.

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
Isn't he that was a week ago and went over
Brisbane Raw this afternoon Western Sydney should provide a much
stiffer opponent. Let's bring an Auckland FC central defender Dan Hall,
who has recently returned to the side from a long
stint on the sidelines with a broken ankle. Dan, great
to have you back in the side and thanks for
joining us on match day. How do you reflect back
on your time out? By my maths, it was ninety

(01:52:36):
nine days out of the side. How do you reflect
back on that time.

Speaker 15 (01:52:41):
Hey, Piney. Obviously I didn't do the math, but it
did feel like a long time, so ninety nine days
makes sense to me. It was obviously frustrating because I
wanted to be there helping my team, but you know,
the boys did really well without me there, and I
was just proud to watch on from the sideline and
focus on my rehab to be back out on the
pitch with him.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
How did the injury actually happen?

Speaker 15 (01:53:04):
Yeah, so it was actually just a incident. It was
literally the lot final ball of training, match day minus two,
and I've gone for a slide tackle. I do a
lot of them usually in training, and my foot just
got stuck in the ground and I've just gone over
the top of my ankle and then yeah, broken fibular
and torn ligaments.

Speaker 12 (01:53:25):
So not ideal.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
Not ideal. Indeed, had you suffered an injury previously in
your career which had kept you out for that length
of time or even longer.

Speaker 15 (01:53:36):
No, this was probably my most severe injury today. And
I've had obviously a few things that have kept me
out for a while, but for one that's during the season,
this has definitely been the most severe for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:53:48):
And how were you watching? I know most most sports
people don't like watching injured. How were you watching from
the sidelines as you as you recovered and rehabbed.

Speaker 15 (01:53:58):
Yeah, it's it's obviously a different vibe when watching and playing.
I honestly think I was more stressed just watching ON
than playing. I feel like when you're when you're actually playing,
you know, it's you, just you're in the moment, much
more than watching on the sideline, where you know you
ride every tackle when you're watching and stuff like that.
So it was stressful times watching ON for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
So you came back in after all that time away,
you could have been forgiven for being a bit short
of match fitness, But you've played ninety minutes and both
of the games since your return, So how are you
able to keep your your aerobic fitness and your match
fitness up while you were out?

Speaker 12 (01:54:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:54:37):
Obviously it wasn't wasn't it wasn't easy, but credit to
credit to the physio teams and the people doing my rehab.
I guess I spent the last three months I was
in the gym and then on the assault bike. I've
became quite familiar with the assault bike every day, so
you know they've done well. Even though I couldn't physically

(01:54:57):
run and stay fit that way, there was other ways
to try and keep me fit, and you know, I
was just grateful that I somehow got through the first ninety.
And then once you get through that first ninety, then
you know you're good to go.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Yeah, that first came back, it was ironically enough against
your former side, the Mariners. I think you said to
me afterward, John, he's supposed to play an hour, but
I mean, were you're blowing near the end of But
how are you feeling after the ninety? The first ninety
minutes back?

Speaker 6 (01:55:20):
Yeah, man, it was pretty funny.

Speaker 15 (01:55:23):
I mean I remember looking up thinking like, I don't
know how much longer I got, and it was literally
the fifty third minutes. So I think just a lot
of I think, you know, I think for my family
was sending me their best wishes and prayers, So I
think that's what got me through, to be honest, fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
Well, you're back in there now. Last time out to
miliwin away at Brisbane. That's the first clean sheet the
team has kept for the last four games. How pleasing
was it to, you know, to keep the clean sheet
against Brisbane and come away with the three points.

Speaker 12 (01:55:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:55:56):
Obviously, you know, at the start of the season we
focused on maintaining clean sheets and we were very strong defensively.
I think we've still been quite strong defensively, just eating
a few unfortunate goals here and there. But as I said,
you know, the coaches please with us getting back on
that clean sheet mentality and hopefully we continue that come

(01:56:16):
the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
You came into the side, I mean everybody's new, right,
So you came into a defensive unit that you were
pretty unfamiliar with in terms of personnel, but quickly established
a really solid defensive unit. I mean, all those clean
sheets in a row to start the season. How did
that all come about?

Speaker 12 (01:56:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:56:37):
I think with any team, I think it's important that
you build good connections off the pitch and then as
a result, you know, you see the good results on
the pitch. But obviously credit to the scouting team from Auckland.
I see they've put together a very strong team and
talented players and good people as well. So whoever's in

(01:56:59):
that role, playing center back or playing left back, right back,
then you know they put do a job for the team.
And obviously when you have Alex Tolson behind you, if
you do make a mistake, there's a good likelihood that
he'll bail you out, so credit to him as well.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
So your next assignment Western Sydney this afternoon. They're the
league's leading goal scorers. So how big a defensive challenge
are you expecting from the Wanderers this afternoon?

Speaker 15 (01:57:23):
Yeah, there are credits. They are a very good side. Obviously,
they score lots and lots of goals. So I guess
for a defend there, it's my job to try and
prevent that today. And you know, I think we're just
trying and focus on trusting the process and what we've
done throughout the week in practice to try and you know,
keep them quiet is hopefully what we'll do. And I

(01:57:45):
guess at the end of the ninety we'll see who
comes out on top.

Speaker 2 (01:57:47):
I guess the feature of their side two. Dan Is,
they've got a number of three. You know, it's not
just one guy's getting all their goals. Nicholas Milanovitch has
got ten, but Bojid arkry of seven, Zac Sapsford seven,
Mark Zentenson six, Brandon Morello current SOCCERU with six. How
much more challenging does it make it when you're not
just focusing on on shutting down one guy?

Speaker 12 (01:58:08):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 15 (01:58:09):
When obviously a quality side like the Wonderers have goals
coming in from every way, it's obviously quite a challenge.
But you know, I think we're quite sound defensively as well,
So I think as a defender, you know, you look
forward to these games where you know there's multiple threats
coming in at once. So I'm excited to play and

(01:58:30):
I'll see how I go.

Speaker 2 (01:58:31):
So depending on how things go over the next couple
of weeks, it's possible that you could secure the Premier's
plate as early as next weekend. This relies on a
few things happening, you guys, winning other teams, not that
sort of thing. Do you look at the table, do
you do the maths? Are you that kind kind of play?
You got that kind of footballer Piiney.

Speaker 15 (01:58:52):
Look, I've never been very good at math, so I
feel like even if I wanted to do the math,
I wouldn't be able to work it out in my head,
or I'll be here till the end of the season
trying to figure out if we've won or not. So
that being said, you know, it's been quite common throughout
the team that we all stay humble and we just
look at it each week by week and hopefully, you

(01:59:14):
know we're trusting the process by building results each week,
we'll get their awards by the end of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
Well, you you come in with championship pedigree. Of course,
you went back to back A league championships with the
Mariners last two seasons. Last season, you want a treble
of trophies? Do you since in this Auckland FC team
some similar qualities to the Mariners teams that you were
a part of in the last couple of seasons.

Speaker 4 (01:59:37):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 15 (01:59:38):
I think, you know, having a winning mentality and just
being very competitive in training translates a lot to the games.
And obviously with my former side and current side, you
know there's good people around you that push you each
week and each day. So I think that's just the
recipe for success, and it's working so far.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
Certainly is. And you are still waiting for your first
Auckland FC goal. I know you've been out for a while,
you know that, so that hasn't helped. But has that
been a topic of conversation at or Nando's got one friend,
he's got one Heroki? You know, has it been talked
about at all that you're still to open your account?

Speaker 4 (02:00:12):
Yeah, well I'm glad.

Speaker 15 (02:00:14):
I think you're the first one to mention it because
I've been, to be fair Finney, I've been thinking about it.
I mean, this Nando guy that plays next to me
is almost our leading golf scorer, so it's not making
me look very good. So I think I'll have to
work out something because I've got enough. I've got lots
and lots of celebrations to pull out when I do
finally get one.

Speaker 4 (02:00:32):
So you'll have to stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (02:00:34):
I will stay tuned. I'll hopefully it will happen this
afternoon or certainly at a very important time. Dan, such
a pleasure to catch up. Awesome to have you back
out there with Auckland FC for the run towards the finals.
Thanks for the chat mate, and all the best against
the Wanderers this afternoon.

Speaker 15 (02:00:48):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
Take care now you take care to Dan Hall. What
a character center back for Auckland. The FC Western Sydney
Wanderers are their opponent this afternoon, five o'clock kickoff at
Go Media Stadium in Auckland, nine and a half to three.
News Talks it'd be when it's down to the line,
you may do call.

Speaker 1 (02:01:08):
Eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Hine News Talk ZMB.

Speaker 2 (02:01:11):
Coming up six away from three back to Albany. We
go on gold Sport.

Speaker 17 (02:01:15):
Warritas trying to get the shunt on front row, goes
down Monkey Glease and takes it off the back short
side right.

Speaker 8 (02:01:20):
Crichton floats the ball over the top to Callaway right
head corner pass try nineteen seven.

Speaker 17 (02:01:26):
They go off check the coum be negaging to go
into the break, leading three tries to one. Andrew Callaway
scores in the right corner and.

Speaker 2 (02:01:35):
Was converted to half time. At Albany and the Waratars
twenty one seven ahead of Mowana Pacifica twenty one points
to seven in the early game. You can catch the
second half on gold Sport and iHeartRadio to the cricket
in Mount Woganui, where New Zealand are into the twenty
ninth of forty two overs, having consented the bat in
the third and final ODII against Pakistan one forty five

(02:01:56):
for three. Tim Cipher back in the side to run
a ball twenty five and Dalril Mitchell there on twenty one,
but slower Darrin Mitchell twenty one not out of thirty
nine balls, one forty five for three. As we approach
the end of the twenty ninth over, that is the
end of weekend sport for today. We're back tomorrow. Just
reminding you our guest after midday tomorrow is David Coulthard

(02:02:19):
the Formula One Royal team. The third and final practice
is about to start in Japan, followed by qualifying bo
so by the time we chat to David tomorrow will
know where Liam Lawson is in relation to for staff
and Sonoda and others. Lots of other things to cover
off on the show tomorrow as well, including football and rugby.
Thanks for listening in some beverage after three any McDonald

(02:02:40):
superb job producing what's our exit song? Today?

Speaker 5 (02:02:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (02:02:43):
Piney A lot of chat this week about tariff's. I
don't know what a tariff is actually, can you are
you able to enlighten me.

Speaker 2 (02:02:50):
A look, I just know that whenever you talk about them,
it's usually negative.

Speaker 5 (02:02:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:02:54):
I don't know what they are. I know they're sort
of money related. So I've gone for dia straits money
for nothing. To stay on theme, I think of this
week again. If anyone wants to explain to me what's
going on, Actually, I probably won't listen.

Speaker 6 (02:03:08):
It sounds boring.

Speaker 2 (02:03:09):
Your grasp of geopolitics and dump and such like is
just astounding. Thanks mate, money for nothing of us to
take us out. We'll see them Mark midday buff.

Speaker 4 (02:03:20):
Now that ain't working.

Speaker 5 (02:03:30):
That's the way you're doing.

Speaker 4 (02:03:32):
You've play a guitar on MTV.

Speaker 5 (02:03:35):
That ain't working. That's and do it. Money born nothing
and your chicks for breathing money for nothing, chicks, look
at that, look at that.

Speaker 1 (02:04:00):
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