James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to recap the Auckland FC Wellington Phoenix clash, the All Blacks' narrow victory over England and Tonga beating out the Kiwis.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Pine
from Newstalk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
James mconey, Hello Jason Pine. Well a day for you yesterday,
the drama of the derby and what a game.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Yeah, it was. It was quite the occasion. The weather
turned it on Wellington, it was. It was a bit
ropey in the morning, but yeah, by the time it
kicked off, the weather was fantastic. Twenty six thousand, there, James,
heaps of Auckland FC fans making a lot of noise
down at the northern end.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Great occasion for the game here.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Do you know what I think that's I feel like
that's the closest I've ever seen to a New Zealand game.
That felt like an FA Cup, you know, an FA
Cup final semi final. It just had the pageantry, the noise,
just the tension, the intensity of the tackles and look,
I know it's never going to match the FA Cup
final because you're not shaking hands with the Royals or
anything like that. But and you know, there's a few
(01:04):
fewer fans twenty six thousand, I think it was. But
what it showed you in New Zealand is what we're
capable of. It feels like a massive turning point for football,
and the only disappointing thing is that the Phoenix kind
of threw it away.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, it was a shame that it was decided in
that way.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Jacob Spoony, alongside Men commentary, said, this game feels like
it's setting itself up for either a moment of brilliance
or an error, and unfortunately it was the latter. You know,
you've still got to be there to capitalize in Jake Brimmer,
you know, a terrific player, and then got the second
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah did you? I kind of? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I feel like Auckland FC did enough to win the game,
but it would. But but then again, another part of
me thinks, what if it was a draw? That would
have been fair too, even if the Phoenix hadn't one.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I know, well, I thought the Phoenix had the best chance.
I can't believe. I think it was a shigi who
headed the ball down and over the bar. I think
both you and Jacob spurnly said that it was harder
to do than get it into the goal, and why
he hitted it I'll never know, but it's probably because
he's short and he thought I'm going to dive with
this and it got to the point where he could
(02:12):
have just prodded at home. That to me was the
best chance of the game. And then and then calamity ensued.
And I feel sorry for Oluwayemu, who's just a young
guy who's from English Nigerian guy who's got tons of
potential and chief he has been in the way that
(02:33):
he is as a coach given him that chance and
said no, we're believe in you, and now it's that
was just a howler for people who didn't see it.
He cleared the ball but only about three meters straight
to a Orkam, the FC player who was what six
yards from goal.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I'm not sure if you heard me say before you
might not have. But after the game, you know, the
fans will come down onto the pitch or want into
the pitch, and they line up and the players go
along and sign auto gravsk and photos and stuff like that.
He stayed out the whole time. Could easily have gone
on ahead, but he stayed out, signed every autograph, every
photo chattered to the fans was clearly distraughted what had happened,
(03:15):
but fronted up, stayed out there.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, I know, and that's the thing. I mean it
was unfortunately for the Yellow Fever and even the Phoenix organization.
I mean they flew up playing over Mount Smart the
week before, so this is a humbling experience for them,
but it means it's so tantalizing for Derby number two,
which is I think December the seventh at go Media
(03:41):
Mount Smart. So well, there were The one thing I
noted is that the kind they've seen must feel pretty
toughed at signing a hole of players from national league
level domestic football, and they were perfectly at home and
a league in fact, looked like they were the best
on show as well.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Hey did you see the billboard that Auckland put up.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah? Yeah, the Ellington Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So clever, so clever.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
For those who haven't seen it, the sign reads welcome
to Wellington, but it actually reads welcome to Ellington and
underneath it says we took the dub well the w
back to Auckland. I think that's tremendous, tremendous.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Last Actually, I haven't seen football on this kind of
high since the Bahrain game, which was two thousand and nine,
And this is what I think New Zealand footballs really needed.
It's incredible to think there was fifteen years ago Piney
probably one of my favorite experiences. But now I think
fans in Wellington and Auckland can look forward to some
(04:48):
really exciting times.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yep, looking forward to it. And now we seem to
talk about Wallace Satiti every week. But I feel like
we should talk about Wallace a Titi again.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, I think so. I think he's going to be there.
Is there a breakthrough performance that will rugby hands out.
I mean that's going to him surely. Right after that
Testamatti just looks so assured and good things happen when
he's got the ball.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I don't know, he just looks like he's been there
forever and you know he's good in the loose, but
he makes his tackles, he makes good decisions you offload
for Mark delay, but also off the pitch. By the
sounds of it, He's just an absolute diamond of a
human being.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
He really is a lovely guy and this is his
first season at any high level. Just bear in mind
first season of Super rugby. Straight into the All Blacks
forces his way into the top side. I mean, England
will be gutted that Wallace t TEETHI has emerged because
he could have just spent his year as a squad player,
you know, but he was given a chance took it
(05:48):
with both hands. He's one of those rarities where he's
hurting people without the ball. So he's so good in defense,
but on attack you're just so excited to see him
in possession and that offload for Talaia for the first try.
But I've got to actually, if we're going to talk
about this game, we have to talk about Slen. It's
finished for the second try. Incredible four tacklers I'd say
(06:12):
he got rid of, including George Ford. And that's foreshadowing
to a moment that's coming up. Damien McKenzie probably silencing
a few critics of you know who seem to text
into your show with that.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
A few, I could tell you he hasn't silenced all of.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Them them, which is good, which is what we want,
always going to be open for the criticism, right, and
then George Ford missing a penalty and a drop goal.
I think it wasn't quite the same as the Phoenix
throwing away the game, but I think by subbing Marcus Smith,
the England first five, who is world class talent. When
(06:52):
he was having such a good game and especially off
the team, I think that decided the test match in
the end.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, couldn't agree more, could not agree more. Did you
get Did you get the chance to watch the Rugby
League last night?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yes? I did, and I love the Kiwis of all
my heart, but it does feel like a work in progress.
Kiwi's team. We've had to and I mean this is
no excuse, but we've had to bring Sean Johnson out
of retirement. Let's and Joey Man who's gone off to rugby.
So it means that jar Oh and Hughes, Joseph Marnho
(07:27):
and Nelson iss off of Solomon and probably are three
three of our best players aren't there. I know it's
no excuse because I think they're the talent was there
to win it. But let's just accept that we are
bloody point players like you know, Jan O'Kinney the fullback
ran for over two hundred meters. Just wait and see
what this kid can be in the in the Kewis jersey.
(07:50):
But look, I'm a bit tongue really myself. I love
that team and they came out of a block so
fast and it just took a couple of you know,
it's extremely gutsy tackle and defensive plays to keep the
Kiris out.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, indeed it was. Yeah, it was quite the contest.
I mentioned before. I only read half an eye on it.
But even when you look at the scoreboard and you
see it half time, Tongue are twenty four to six ahead.
In fact, they were twenty four mill up, weren't they
after thirty four minutes? And then you look at the
final score at Yeah, crazy old game, but no, well
done to tong and great crowd there too. You look
(08:29):
into the stands at Mount Smart and it's equal measure
red and black there for a Tonga Kiwi's test.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I feel like the Tongon fans are the best fans
in the world, and that's I mean, they showed us
in that twenty eleven World Cup Rugby World Cup what
they could do, and I think it sort of inspired
a lot of other fans to go, okay, yeah we
can do this too. But I mean there are obviously,
you know, football fans from other nations who'd say we're
(08:56):
the ones are traveling support and all that sort of thing.
But just seeing them come out with that kind of
fervor and passion and just basically create the atmosphere by
themselves at the stadium. You would not have that for
Kiwis versus Kangaroos.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
No, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. Hey, just before
you a cricket day, how many days have we had?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Only two?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Haven't we?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Where? What have we won?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Seventy one for nine in our second and he's lead
of one hundred and forty three. So well, I mean
when yeah, when Willow Rock comes into bat, I think
you kind of get ready to kind of get ready
for things to wrap up, don't you. But so what
India we need one hundred and fifty odd to win.
They'll probably win the Test, doesn't it? She matter, does it?
We've won the series.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, we've won the series. It's fine. It's a bit
like with the netball. You know, we've won the Constellation
Cap and then you know, Dame Auntie Knoles just put
out a whole of you know, sort of experimental selections
with this one. Well, we won the series without Kin
Williams and our best player, you know, for example, so
we're we're they'll still be on the high. It's just
(09:57):
a bit gunning because they've got themselves into.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Almost good positions. But really, the one thing I think
with this black Cat side is yeah, it's great that
we've in India, but it does fail with so many
players I think eight of the eleven over over thirty,
there's going to be a bit of a changing of
a guard at some point, and maybe a look at
the lower middle order as well, just to see what
(10:22):
happens there. And it just shows how someone like bj
Watland was just worth his weight in gold, and even
Daniel Vittori and Jakes Warm in their later years. You know,
we had those bottom order fight backs that we don't
seem to have from this Black Tap side. But it's
no real criticism, just something that maybe needs some tinkering.
(10:45):
And look, they're going to come home victorious and they've
made history.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I've done.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
We need to put the call out for that.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
You know, the next kind of cricketing prodigy, you know
how came Williamson at school was famous but no one
could get him out. He used it to battle day
every day and his dad even reversed the batting order
one day to give everybody else a go. Same with
rich and Ravendra when he was coming through Ellington, everyone
was talking about this kid out of hud International Boys
School who was the next big thing. I want to
know who that is now, who's this fifteen sixteen year
(11:13):
old who's just getting pots of runs around the country
somewhere and now we can get them out?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well, maybe you and I need to go away and
work on that. You go to hubs of the National Boys' School,
all right, I know the Ham Boys High because that's
where Mitchell Satna came out of. And between Heibbs is
that what they call him?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
They call yeah hoops, that's it.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Between Hebbs and hand Boys, we'll find the new prodigy.
I guarantee next week's show we'll be naming names and
basically giving us some hope for the future.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Love it good man, James grind to Chan has always
made always love our chance. James mccarony big part of
our Sundays here on News.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Talks EDB for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine.
Listen live to News Talks EDB weekends from midday or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Pine
from Newstalk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
James mconey, Hello Jason Pine. Well a day for you yesterday,
the drama of the derby and what a game.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Yeah, it was. It was quite the occasion. The weather
turned it on Wellington, it was. It was a bit
ropey in the morning, but yeah, by the time it
kicked off, the weather was fantastic. Twenty six thousand, there, James,
heaps of Auckland FC fans making a lot of noise
down at the northern end.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Great occasion for the game here.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Do you know what I think that's I feel like
that's the closest I've ever seen to a New Zealand game.
That felt like an FA Cup, you know, an FA
Cup final semi final. It just had the pageantry, the noise,
just the tension, the intensity of the tackles and look,
I know it's never going to match the FA Cup
final because you're not shaking hands with the Royals or
anything like that. But and you know, there's a few
(01:04):
fewer fans twenty six thousand, I think it was. But
what it showed you in New Zealand is what we're
capable of. It feels like a massive turning point for football,
and the only disappointing thing is that the Phoenix kind
of threw it away.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, it was a shame that it was decided in
that way.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Jacob Spoony, alongside Men commentary, said, this game feels like
it's setting itself up for either a moment of brilliance
or an error, and unfortunately it was the latter. You know,
you've still got to be there to capitalize in Jake Brimmer,
you know, a terrific player, and then got the second
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah did you? I kind of? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I feel like Auckland FC did enough to win the game,
but it would. But but then again, another part of
me thinks, what if it was a draw? That would
have been fair too, even if the Phoenix hadn't one.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I know, well, I thought the Phoenix had the best chance.
I can't believe. I think it was a shigi who
headed the ball down and over the bar. I think
both you and Jacob spurnly said that it was harder
to do than get it into the goal, and why
he hitted it I'll never know, but it's probably because
he's short and he thought I'm going to dive with
this and it got to the point where he could
(02:12):
have just prodded at home. That to me was the
best chance of the game. And then and then calamity ensued.
And I feel sorry for Oluwayemu, who's just a young
guy who's from English Nigerian guy who's got tons of
potential and chief he has been in the way that
(02:33):
he is as a coach given him that chance and
said no, we're believe in you, and now it's that
was just a howler for people who didn't see it.
He cleared the ball but only about three meters straight
to a Orkam, the FC player who was what six
yards from goal.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I'm not sure if you heard me say before you
might not have. But after the game, you know, the
fans will come down onto the pitch or want into
the pitch, and they line up and the players go
along and sign auto gravsk and photos and stuff like that.
He stayed out the whole time. Could easily have gone
on ahead, but he stayed out, signed every autograph, every
photo chattered to the fans was clearly distraughted what had happened,
(03:15):
but fronted up, stayed out there.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, I know, and that's the thing. I mean it
was unfortunately for the Yellow Fever and even the Phoenix organization.
I mean they flew up playing over Mount Smart the
week before, so this is a humbling experience for them,
but it means it's so tantalizing for Derby number two,
which is I think December the seventh at go Media
(03:41):
Mount Smart. So well, there were The one thing I
noted is that the kind they've seen must feel pretty
toughed at signing a hole of players from national league
level domestic football, and they were perfectly at home and
a league in fact, looked like they were the best
on show as well.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Hey did you see the billboard that Auckland put up.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah? Yeah, the Ellington Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So clever, so clever.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
For those who haven't seen it, the sign reads welcome
to Wellington, but it actually reads welcome to Ellington and
underneath it says we took the dub well the w
back to Auckland. I think that's tremendous, tremendous.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Last Actually, I haven't seen football on this kind of
high since the Bahrain game, which was two thousand and nine,
And this is what I think New Zealand footballs really needed.
It's incredible to think there was fifteen years ago Piney
probably one of my favorite experiences. But now I think
fans in Wellington and Auckland can look forward to some
(04:48):
really exciting times.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yep, looking forward to it. And now we seem to
talk about Wallace Satiti every week. But I feel like
we should talk about Wallace a Titi again.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, I think so. I think he's going to be there.
Is there a breakthrough performance that will rugby hands out.
I mean that's going to him surely. Right after that
Testamatti just looks so assured and good things happen when
he's got the ball.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I don't know, he just looks like he's been there
forever and you know he's good in the loose, but
he makes his tackles, he makes good decisions you offload
for Mark delay, but also off the pitch. By the
sounds of it, He's just an absolute diamond of a
human being.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
He really is a lovely guy and this is his
first season at any high level. Just bear in mind
first season of Super rugby. Straight into the All Blacks
forces his way into the top side. I mean, England
will be gutted that Wallace t TEETHI has emerged because
he could have just spent his year as a squad player,
you know, but he was given a chance took it
(05:48):
with both hands. He's one of those rarities where he's
hurting people without the ball. So he's so good in defense,
but on attack you're just so excited to see him
in possession and that offload for Talaia for the first try.
But I've got to actually, if we're going to talk
about this game, we have to talk about Slen. It's
finished for the second try. Incredible four tacklers I'd say
(06:12):
he got rid of, including George Ford. And that's foreshadowing
to a moment that's coming up. Damien McKenzie probably silencing
a few critics of you know who seem to text
into your show with that.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
A few, I could tell you he hasn't silenced all of.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Them them, which is good, which is what we want,
always going to be open for the criticism, right, and
then George Ford missing a penalty and a drop goal.
I think it wasn't quite the same as the Phoenix
throwing away the game, but I think by subbing Marcus Smith,
the England first five, who is world class talent. When
(06:52):
he was having such a good game and especially off
the team, I think that decided the test match in
the end.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, couldn't agree more, could not agree more. Did you
get Did you get the chance to watch the Rugby
League last night?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yes? I did, and I love the Kiwis of all
my heart, but it does feel like a work in progress.
Kiwi's team. We've had to and I mean this is
no excuse, but we've had to bring Sean Johnson out
of retirement. Let's and Joey Man who's gone off to rugby.
So it means that jar Oh and Hughes, Joseph Marnho
(07:27):
and Nelson iss off of Solomon and probably are three
three of our best players aren't there. I know it's
no excuse because I think they're the talent was there
to win it. But let's just accept that we are
bloody point players like you know, Jan O'Kinney the fullback
ran for over two hundred meters. Just wait and see
what this kid can be in the in the Kewis jersey.
(07:50):
But look, I'm a bit tongue really myself. I love
that team and they came out of a block so
fast and it just took a couple of you know,
it's extremely gutsy tackle and defensive plays to keep the
Kiris out.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, indeed it was. Yeah, it was quite the contest.
I mentioned before. I only read half an eye on it.
But even when you look at the scoreboard and you
see it half time, Tongue are twenty four to six ahead.
In fact, they were twenty four mill up, weren't they
after thirty four minutes? And then you look at the
final score at Yeah, crazy old game, but no, well
done to tong and great crowd there too. You look
(08:29):
into the stands at Mount Smart and it's equal measure
red and black there for a Tonga Kiwi's test.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I feel like the Tongon fans are the best fans
in the world, and that's I mean, they showed us
in that twenty eleven World Cup Rugby World Cup what
they could do, and I think it sort of inspired
a lot of other fans to go, okay, yeah we
can do this too. But I mean there are obviously,
you know, football fans from other nations who'd say we're
(08:56):
the ones are traveling support and all that sort of thing.
But just seeing them come out with that kind of
fervor and passion and just basically create the atmosphere by
themselves at the stadium. You would not have that for
Kiwis versus Kangaroos.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
No, one hundred percent, one hundred percent. Hey, just before
you a cricket day, how many days have we had?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Only two?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Haven't we?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Where? What have we won?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Seventy one for nine in our second and he's lead
of one hundred and forty three. So well, I mean
when yeah, when Willow Rock comes into bat, I think
you kind of get ready to kind of get ready
for things to wrap up, don't you. But so what
India we need one hundred and fifty odd to win.
They'll probably win the Test, doesn't it? She matter, does it?
We've won the series.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, we've won the series. It's fine. It's a bit
like with the netball. You know, we've won the Constellation
Cap and then you know, Dame Auntie Knoles just put
out a whole of you know, sort of experimental selections
with this one. Well, we won the series without Kin
Williams and our best player, you know, for example, so
we're we're they'll still be on the high. It's just
(09:57):
a bit gunning because they've got themselves into.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Almost good positions. But really, the one thing I think
with this black Cat side is yeah, it's great that
we've in India, but it does fail with so many
players I think eight of the eleven over over thirty,
there's going to be a bit of a changing of
a guard at some point, and maybe a look at
the lower middle order as well, just to see what
(10:22):
happens there. And it just shows how someone like bj
Watland was just worth his weight in gold, and even
Daniel Vittori and Jakes Warm in their later years. You know,
we had those bottom order fight backs that we don't
seem to have from this Black Tap side. But it's
no real criticism, just something that maybe needs some tinkering.
(10:45):
And look, they're going to come home victorious and they've
made history.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I've done.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
We need to put the call out for that.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
You know, the next kind of cricketing prodigy, you know
how came Williamson at school was famous but no one
could get him out. He used it to battle day
every day and his dad even reversed the batting order
one day to give everybody else a go. Same with
rich and Ravendra when he was coming through Ellington, everyone
was talking about this kid out of hud International Boys
School who was the next big thing. I want to
know who that is now, who's this fifteen sixteen year
(11:13):
old who's just getting pots of runs around the country
somewhere and now we can get them out?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Well, maybe you and I need to go away and
work on that. You go to hubs of the National Boys' School,
all right, I know the Ham Boys High because that's
where Mitchell Satna came out of. And between Heibbs is
that what they call him?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
They call yeah hoops, that's it.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Between Hebbs and hand Boys, we'll find the new prodigy.
I guarantee next week's show we'll be naming names and
basically giving us some hope for the future.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Love it good man, James grind to Chan has always
made always love our chance. James mccarony big part of
our Sundays here on News.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Talks EDB for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine.
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follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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