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April 5, 2025 • 10 mins

James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to discuss  Liam Lawson's next big race, the latest with the Super Rugby and the Black Caps' latest win.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks b.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
As always on a Sunday afternoon. Great pleasure to welcome
in James mcconey to the show. Hello James, Hi, poney.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
If you had a little weekend in Aukland?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Have you?

Speaker 3 (00:20):
I have?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
And I know you know that because can I say
it was an absolute honor to be in the Alternative
Commentary Collective Commentary booth the other night as you called
your Chiefs to another victory.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, it was great to have you there, pony. I mean,
no pressure. I couldn't work out what your hand gest is.
Where were you going up the Chiefs? I'm hoping.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, if it wasn't obvious, maybe you need to work
on them.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah you do. Yeah, there was fingers evolved. It couldn't
work it out. But the thing is the Chiefs. I
mean then it was a week game. It was. It
was a horrible game. I think the Chiefs deserved it.
But I also thought there was an incredible try non
try by Harry McLachlin Phillips the Clint Queens and Reds
first five. It was such so close and I mean

(01:08):
he partially bobbled the ball when he slid over the
goal line. But it was it felt like it was
a try. They should have given that. I mean, you
can't come back. I mean, are we going? It's too
much of a fine tooth cone for me. Look, it
looked like a great try, but meanwhile, there's lots of
other things that they let go and rugby, so what
would I know, Piney and the end, the Chiefs got

(01:30):
it done and Shawn Stevenson one hundred games that sort
of sneaked up on me. But hey, what a great
servant he's been.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Absolutely and I just feel like the Chiefs, I mean,
all the other New Zealand sides sort of tend to be,
I don't know, picking their way through inconsistency. I mean,
the Crusader's won in Figiys today for the first time,
so they're back up to second. But the Hurricanes losing
last night to the Blues who have been underwhelming, the
Highlanders lost again. I think the bright light in all
of this, apart from your Chiefs, is Molwana PACIFICA Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
I know, what a game. And it looked like they
were going to get undone by Joseph seuer Lky, So
imagine that the sort of highest profile probably highest paid
pacifica play on the other team looking a million or
every bit of his two million or four million US
America Australian sorry dollars. But then what happened is that

(02:17):
I think early in the second half Artie sa Via
tackled him and pushed the sort of driven back about
seven meters and then a few minutes later he got
the ball and shrugged him off, and I was thinking, okay,
that is a welcome to rugby moment, you know from
basically the sort of the big chief on the block,
and that is Artie. He leads that team so well.

(02:41):
But the way the style of the tries was incredible,
just champagne rugby on a sunny afternoon in the North Shore,
a lot to light about their resolve and also a
props going a hat drink.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh look, that was so good. I just loved everything
about it. And I now look ahead to next weekend
when the Blues welcome Mawana Pacificate to Eden Park. I
think it's to four thirty five kickoffs, so got a
sunshine hopefully around although dlight saving has finished, of course,
I reckon there'll be more there supporting Mowana PACIFICA.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, this is the problem, the battle for Auckland, especially
with bums on seats. I mean, well, the Warriors are
winning it right and then the Blues. It's hard to
tell with Eden Park how many they get there, but
it didn't look good last night against the Hurricanes and
they had some epic battles and just recently last season.

(03:33):
The last regular season game last year between the Blues
and the Hurricanes was one full time, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
It was?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
There were Test match firs last night too. But I
think duples could Fish summed it up pretty well when
he just said, you know, it's just small moments will
decide games. And I think he won a turnover and
then he conceded a turnover attempt. It just came down
to that kind of stuff and Bowden slatted as goals.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
They took about the battle for bums on seats and
a cross town at the home of the Warriors. It
was Auckland FC again getting eighteen and a half thousand
there yesterday. I've been to all of their home games.
I've been very lucky to get the chance to work
at them. It's been a buzz all year. Yesterday was
I think even even bigger in terms of the Firs.

(04:25):
If Auckland happened to win that game, I think that
place would have exploded, I know.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
And that's the other thing. I mean, if the Wars
are winning, then Auckland they're see in second position, aren't they.
And it's really hurt the Blues in particular that the
I mean it was a one all draw in the end,
but you can tell when you're watching the highlights because
I missed the game live. Just the energy and the
crowd noise. It's just like nothing else I've really seen

(04:53):
in New Zealand football, not on a regular basis like that.
So they're on to something special there. It was a
bizarre medal game. I will say at the end, the
most experienced player, the Japanese international, it's a pretty good
chance that fell to his left foot. Of course he's
the right foot, but I would say that if you
were a young footballer out there, if you've got a

(05:15):
young footballer in your family, at least get them to
have a decent shot off their weaker foot. You've got
to have it for moments like that.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Pinty look as that ball came across to him. I
remember this so distinctly, I think everybody it was almost
like that that moment you know before a goal scored,
where there's just that split second of silence. Everybody just
holds their breath and then gets ready to explode with ecstasy.
Unfortunately that didn't come, but there was just that split

(05:42):
second of silence as Sakai approached the ball. And I mean,
like I said, if that had gone and I don't
know what would have happened to that ground, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
But instead, because it felt his left foot, he pretty
much passed it to the keeper. Yeah, and so you
do have to have it. Just work it out. I
don't care what you do. Practice against the wall, whatever
it is with your weak foot work, you know, find
a way to voluny with it and to shoot with it,
and then you will not get yourself into a problem
like Sako had yesterday. It would have, like you say,

(06:13):
the place we have would have exploded.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
A couple of other matters we've been speaking about the
depth building in New Zealand cricket, particularly in the white
ball side. A fairly new look side wrapped up the
three nil series went over Pakistan yesterday and Mount Moganu.
There are some quite exciting and promising young cricketers starting
to make a bit of a name for themselves.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah. Indeed, reyes Marty, who remember the name? He scored
a fifty on debut yesterday. And I think it's time
for these players to step up and make the team.
It's always been quite a close shot when you think
about how long players can stay in the side. And
I know that we've watched, you know, witness excellence of
people like Tim Salvi, Trient, Polt Caine Williamson and Ross Taylor,

(06:56):
so we've been spoiled. But now I just think, well,
it is time for this new generation to come through,
because even though we've had that golden era and we've
made you World Cup Final and with won that Test Championship,
to be honest, I feel that we've still been a
step behind Australia and some other top sides. You know,
we really haven't been able to compete with Australia that

(07:19):
entire time. So it's up to the next generation to
do it. And to be honest, I was a bit
disappointed to see that King Williamson has decided not to
play because he's commentating in the IPL not playing commentating,
So look if you're going to do that, mate, let's
let's just let the young guys have the run of it.
And he's going to retire a legend. And I'm happy

(07:41):
for him to carry on and test matches, and because
I feel that that record that he's gotten test matches
is the most important thing to him. We haven't got
many this year, but let him carry on. But at
these other levels, I think it's time to let these
guys play. And I'm talking about Muhammed Abas, I'm talking
about Mitchell Ay and Reese Martiou. You know, just give

(08:04):
them the spot.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Did you came, Williamson? Did you see that clip where
they've basically used AI to change his language from English
to Hindi.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, it's incredible, and in fact was so good that
it almost felt just one of those things we know,
you're not allowed, no one's allowed to do an Indian
accent anymore, piny, but they pretty much forced him into
it with his AI and it was perfect. I mean,
he was speaking Hindi in this AI clip, but I
was just thinking, Okay, that's that's one of those things

(08:37):
where initially I was going, what is going on here?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I know, it was quite confronting almost it.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Was and yeah, good on them. It's it's it's it's
just AI is taking over. You know. I must say
I've dabbled with AI songwriting and and it's it's fun,
you know, it's it's it's not bad, but yeah, that's
and obviously you know, you see a lot of images
that you could tell AI now, but it's you can

(09:04):
get easily get fulled by it and the AI voices
that come out. This is where you have to be
extremely careful. And I know it's caused problems before with
you know, Fordster's getting hold of it. So you know,
I've had an AI voice creator of Christopher Luxon and
it's bang on as it bang on.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I mean, is this definitely you?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yes, it is me Jason Pine. Great to be on
your show. Is the best in the world, I think? No,
I mean this is the whole thing AI. Can you tell? Yeah,
it's tough, it is tough, but it's going to be
interesting in our industry anyway. Will you get AI, Poney,

(09:49):
Well we.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Might, but I'll never get AI, James Maconey, I can
assure you of that. Look forward to chatting next Sunday
with you or someone who sounds like you. Thanks mate.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
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