October 26, 2024 • 10 mins
Assistant coach Jason Ryan believes the team handled themselves well - despite a narrow victory over Japan in Yokohama.
The 64-19 win came without 11 frontline players, who had already left for London to prepare for next week’s test against England.
Ryan joined Piney to discuss the win.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine
from Newstalks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
That's good out to the back line. They'd love to
finish on a high as well, but it's messy on
the deck. Reuben Love's intercept to that and Reverend Love's
ha A store a second on Devo when I was
a platz out of nowhere by the All Blacks and
that is a full time store. In Yokohama sixty four
(00:33):
nineteen Japan started with a hester roar, but the All
Blacks blew them away, and the All Blacks start the
n debated sum with a victory in Yokohama.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yes I do. Elliot Smith with TheCall last night the
All Blacks sixty four Japan, nineteen and impressor first half blitz,
the All Black scoring seven tries, a bit messy in
the second half, but then ending on a high hurricane
Ruben Love coming off the bench for his test aboot
and scoring a couple of lake tries. All Black's assistant
coach Jason Ryan joins us on Weekend Sport. Jason, what
(01:09):
pleased you the most about the performance?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Probably how you know we look at a lot of
you guys took their opportunity. Really there's a different looking
all back team when you think about it. So I
think I think the fact that it wasn't perfect it
was good for us as well. You know, we started,
they put us on our heels, but we stayed really
composed and some young guys have really got us thinking
(01:35):
and I think that's exciting. You know, like last time
I played Japan, we won by four points, so to
actually put them way away quite convincingly at the end
was pleasing.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
So how much pressure are some of these players who
played in this test mates putting on some of the incumbents?
I guess even the ones who have gone on ahead
to England.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Well, look at any any all back you know, whether
not their debut, or they've played fifty odd tests, or
you know that they're in the single figure the test matches,
that they get an opportunity. So we've obviously sent some
boys to London that are over there, but we're pretty
clear on the squad. I think after tonight that we
want to pick against England, but you know, we celebrate
(02:19):
the fact that you know, we're too new all blacks
that that's special on its own, and any test win
is special. But I just think with how we did
this week and that the pressure they put on with
selection and around multiple positions, I think it's really encouraging.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I just want to pick up on that point, Jase.
The players who have been sent on to England, I
think we can all assume they'll start next weekend. Were
you asking the players who played against Japan to put
pressure on you as selectors as you look to name
you twenty three for next weekend and for the big
Test to come.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, I think that's a fair question. Look, yeah, we
don't say we want them to put pressure on us.
We just want them to take their opportunity. Or if
we talk too much for younger guys that are trying
to find their way at the Test there or about pressure,
well that that will make them tighten up. But I
got a few individuals. If you look at Pasilyotossi, he
started his first Test match as tide ed today he
(03:14):
went really well. Semmapenny Fee Now I've got another opportunity
at Sux. He hasn't had much Test foot he did
really well. Even I suffer more more, you know, like
I'm just talking the forwards point of view, but it
gets us thinking and obviously cam Rouguard back as well
with something well, you know, it just makes us I
(03:34):
think definitely about our selection and make the boys understand this.
It's going to be a hard tam to plack. And
when we get that and when we build these guys
confidence and they get exposed to test rugby and pressure moments,
it's it's exciting.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
How happy were you with your ship, Peace, Yeah, I
think we had.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I think we had some good moments. I think, you know,
we got some quality of ball where we need it
and when we needed it. I thought Patty did a
great job during the week and calling our line out options.
For example, they obviously scored a couple of tries as
fast off set piece plays that we'll need to look
at in the review. That will give us something to
(04:12):
think about as we hit to London. But I think
overall we got the quality ball we needed. But you know,
by no means satisfied.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I guess you mentioned Patrick Tweepolotu there he wore the
armband of course in this one. Can you tell us
about Patrick tweep Boloto's week as All Blacks captain for
the first time?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Oh, been outstanding To be honest, that's it was a
real moment when you know, we had a conversation as coaches.
You know, we knew what was going to happen with
with Scooter heating over to England early with the other boys,
and we you know, we talked around it. We're really
clear who our captain was going to be for this week,
and we let Patty know really well, really early, and
(04:53):
you know, right from the time raised the rung him.
He was an emotional moment for him, you know, with
his family and to lead the All Blacks and I
think he's the agency and captain. It's not many out
of twelve hundred plus all Blacks, so he really got
around the boys. He gave and so much confidence just
how he delivers his message. His experienced all Black now
and got around the younger boys and just had little
(05:13):
conversations during the week behind the scenes. We're not that's
at dinner or after a meeting and just helping guys
out and couldn't speak high enough any played exception a
well too, I thought.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Indeed, indeed he did. And you talk about the twelve
hundred plus All Blacks, she added two new names All
Black twelve hundred and twenty two, Peter Larkeye All Black
twelve hundred and twenty three is Ruben Love. Couple of
tries for Ruben Love on his debut. How do you
celebrate new boys in the All Blacks?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Oh? Really special was we just had a you know,
we call it the all Black circle and we're really
grateful that we had very retellent Aaron Smith, Dane Cole,
Sam Whitelocke in the sheds with us and we celebrated
and Sam came presented him with us all black tie
and to Pete he's been rooming with them all week
(06:03):
and then teacher parent are presented Reuben with his So
it's just great to have those legends in the room.
You know, three hundred test all Blacks. It's pretty special.
And obviously Colzy he's had a lot to do with
the Saffo and that sort of thing from Afar, so
having those boys in the shed that are over here
in Japan was a special moment. So that's a celebration.
(06:25):
But we'll get around them and stay in at the
hotel tonight and with an early flight to London, so
we'll get around them and have some dinner and enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Around the sort of fifteen minute mark. You brought six
players on at the same time. It looked like a
bit of a bomber squad all coming on together. Was
that always the plan to bring on multiple subs at
the same time with about half an hour ago.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Now, look, you talk about different situations that might happen
in the game, but you know we were a point
where we're a few points up, weren't we, and we
were just like, let's get all the boys on and
man that can have it. It's challenged at times as well,
and we probably lost a little bit of momentum, whether
or not that was through the changes or our decision
making on need to look a little bit further at that.
(07:08):
But you know those boys that will train really well,
so get them out there and get into it. You
know someone's going to be brave, and we did that,
and you know they all had good little individual moments.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So you've used forty two players now in twenty twenty four,
and there have been a bunch of guys who played
against Japan who haven't had a heck of a lot
of opportunity up until now, and you mentioned a couple
of them before. Jase, how much of a coaching challenge
is to manage a large group of players, all of
who want to play, but many of who will only
get limited opportunities. How challenging is that as a coaching group.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Yeah, look, it can be if you're not upfront, it's
a challenge. If you're not upfront with them, you know,
you just can't, you know. But they know that we're
not just going to give out all black caps. You know,
we want to pick our best test team that we
think will win the Test in front of us. And
they needed to train extremely well, put pressure on the
(08:05):
other boys during the training week. You know, they still
get opportunities at training. We review each training hard and
that's sometimes life is an all black and what it
is life is an all black that you're going to
get a limited opportunity, but when you do get it,
take your chance.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Probably an example that is have a penny fee. How
he had a bit of a you know, play two
tests against England. He knows himself and he wasn't quite
where he needed to be, and he's gone away, he
put on a bit of weight, some good size and
now he's come back and played this Test and he
should have a lot of confidence from it, so the
margins are close and small for those players to perform
at the highest level on the world stage at Test rugby.
(08:44):
But we made no excuse about that because that's that's
how the All Black should be, all right.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And the players who have gone on ahead to England,
they left before the Japan Test, what will they have
been doing before the rest of you arrive and catch
them up.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yes, so we obviously we had a bit of a
head out during the week, just a bit of a training,
a couple of scenarios against Panasonic, so that was really good.
And they've got our game plan effectively already that we've
been talking around, for example, put in context their line
out menu and what we sort of feel we'll run
(09:19):
there with Tupo Y and Scott Barrett being over there,
so they'll have a look at that. But there's no
guarantees that they are the guys that will be in
that squad either, but you know, there's a fair indication
that we're sent them there for a reason and to
get ahead of the travel that's coming up. But they
know which game we want to play. We've had leaders
meetings were needed to so that we can hit the
(09:39):
Northern tour running because effectively we've got a full week
for England in six days a goot Ireland, so they
need to be on the front foot and that's why
we did it to keep these boys. Are those boys fresh?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You know?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Three big tests, three or four big tests in.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
A row, all right? Yeah, exciting times ahead for you
and for All Blacks fans as well. Congratulations on the
one over Japan, Jayce, thanks for jetting to us.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Safe travels, mate, no worries, thank you, Thank.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
You, Jase Jason Ryan, then assistant coach of the All
Blacks sixty four nineteen.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talks it B Weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine
from Newstalks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
That's good out to the back line. They'd love to
finish on a high as well, but it's messy on
the deck. Reuben Love's intercept to that and Reverend Love's
ha A store a second on Devo when I was
a platz out of nowhere by the All Blacks and
that is a full time store. In Yokohama sixty four
(00:33):
nineteen Japan started with a hester roar, but the All
Blacks blew them away, and the All Blacks start the
n debated sum with a victory in Yokohama.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yes I do. Elliot Smith with TheCall last night the
All Blacks sixty four Japan, nineteen and impressor first half blitz,
the All Black scoring seven tries, a bit messy in
the second half, but then ending on a high hurricane
Ruben Love coming off the bench for his test aboot
and scoring a couple of lake tries. All Black's assistant
coach Jason Ryan joins us on Weekend Sport. Jason, what
(01:09):
pleased you the most about the performance?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Probably how you know we look at a lot of
you guys took their opportunity. Really there's a different looking
all back team when you think about it. So I
think I think the fact that it wasn't perfect it
was good for us as well. You know, we started,
they put us on our heels, but we stayed really
composed and some young guys have really got us thinking
(01:35):
and I think that's exciting. You know, like last time
I played Japan, we won by four points, so to
actually put them way away quite convincingly at the end
was pleasing.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
So how much pressure are some of these players who
played in this test mates putting on some of the incumbents?
I guess even the ones who have gone on ahead
to England.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Well, look at any any all back you know, whether
not their debut, or they've played fifty odd tests, or
you know that they're in the single figure the test matches,
that they get an opportunity. So we've obviously sent some
boys to London that are over there, but we're pretty
clear on the squad. I think after tonight that we
want to pick against England, but you know, we celebrate
(02:19):
the fact that you know, we're too new all blacks
that that's special on its own, and any test win
is special. But I just think with how we did
this week and that the pressure they put on with
selection and around multiple positions, I think it's really encouraging.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I just want to pick up on that point, Jase.
The players who have been sent on to England, I
think we can all assume they'll start next weekend. Were
you asking the players who played against Japan to put
pressure on you as selectors as you look to name
you twenty three for next weekend and for the big
Test to come.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, I think that's a fair question. Look, yeah, we
don't say we want them to put pressure on us.
We just want them to take their opportunity. Or if
we talk too much for younger guys that are trying
to find their way at the Test there or about pressure,
well that that will make them tighten up. But I
got a few individuals. If you look at Pasilyotossi, he
started his first Test match as tide ed today he
(03:14):
went really well. Semmapenny Fee Now I've got another opportunity
at Sux. He hasn't had much Test foot he did
really well. Even I suffer more more, you know, like
I'm just talking the forwards point of view, but it
gets us thinking and obviously cam Rouguard back as well
with something well, you know, it just makes us I
(03:34):
think definitely about our selection and make the boys understand this.
It's going to be a hard tam to plack. And
when we get that and when we build these guys
confidence and they get exposed to test rugby and pressure moments,
it's it's exciting.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
How happy were you with your ship, Peace, Yeah, I
think we had.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
I think we had some good moments. I think, you know,
we got some quality of ball where we need it
and when we needed it. I thought Patty did a
great job during the week and calling our line out options.
For example, they obviously scored a couple of tries as
fast off set piece plays that we'll need to look
at in the review. That will give us something to
(04:12):
think about as we hit to London. But I think
overall we got the quality ball we needed. But you know,
by no means satisfied.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I guess you mentioned Patrick Tweepolotu there he wore the
armband of course in this one. Can you tell us
about Patrick tweep Boloto's week as All Blacks captain for
the first time?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Oh, been outstanding To be honest, that's it was a
real moment when you know, we had a conversation as coaches.
You know, we knew what was going to happen with
with Scooter heating over to England early with the other boys,
and we you know, we talked around it. We're really
clear who our captain was going to be for this week,
and we let Patty know really well, really early, and
(04:53):
you know, right from the time raised the rung him.
He was an emotional moment for him, you know, with
his family and to lead the All Blacks and I
think he's the agency and captain. It's not many out
of twelve hundred plus all Blacks, so he really got
around the boys. He gave and so much confidence just
how he delivers his message. His experienced all Black now
and got around the younger boys and just had little
(05:13):
conversations during the week behind the scenes. We're not that's
at dinner or after a meeting and just helping guys
out and couldn't speak high enough any played exception a
well too, I thought.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Indeed, indeed he did. And you talk about the twelve
hundred plus All Blacks, she added two new names All
Black twelve hundred and twenty two, Peter Larkeye All Black
twelve hundred and twenty three is Ruben Love. Couple of
tries for Ruben Love on his debut. How do you
celebrate new boys in the All Blacks?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Oh? Really special was we just had a you know,
we call it the all Black circle and we're really
grateful that we had very retellent Aaron Smith, Dane Cole,
Sam Whitelocke in the sheds with us and we celebrated
and Sam came presented him with us all black tie
and to Pete he's been rooming with them all week
(06:03):
and then teacher parent are presented Reuben with his So
it's just great to have those legends in the room.
You know, three hundred test all Blacks. It's pretty special.
And obviously Colzy he's had a lot to do with
the Saffo and that sort of thing from Afar, so
having those boys in the shed that are over here
in Japan was a special moment. So that's a celebration.
(06:25):
But we'll get around them and stay in at the
hotel tonight and with an early flight to London, so
we'll get around them and have some dinner and enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Around the sort of fifteen minute mark. You brought six
players on at the same time. It looked like a
bit of a bomber squad all coming on together. Was
that always the plan to bring on multiple subs at
the same time with about half an hour ago.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Now, look, you talk about different situations that might happen
in the game, but you know we were a point
where we're a few points up, weren't we, and we
were just like, let's get all the boys on and
man that can have it. It's challenged at times as well,
and we probably lost a little bit of momentum, whether
or not that was through the changes or our decision
making on need to look a little bit further at that.
(07:08):
But you know those boys that will train really well,
so get them out there and get into it. You
know someone's going to be brave, and we did that,
and you know they all had good little individual moments.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So you've used forty two players now in twenty twenty four,
and there have been a bunch of guys who played
against Japan who haven't had a heck of a lot
of opportunity up until now, and you mentioned a couple
of them before. Jase, how much of a coaching challenge
is to manage a large group of players, all of
who want to play, but many of who will only
get limited opportunities. How challenging is that as a coaching group.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Yeah, look, it can be if you're not upfront, it's
a challenge. If you're not upfront with them, you know,
you just can't, you know. But they know that we're
not just going to give out all black caps. You know,
we want to pick our best test team that we
think will win the Test in front of us. And
they needed to train extremely well, put pressure on the
(08:05):
other boys during the training week. You know, they still
get opportunities at training. We review each training hard and
that's sometimes life is an all black and what it
is life is an all black that you're going to
get a limited opportunity, but when you do get it,
take your chance.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Probably an example that is have a penny fee. How
he had a bit of a you know, play two
tests against England. He knows himself and he wasn't quite
where he needed to be, and he's gone away, he
put on a bit of weight, some good size and
now he's come back and played this Test and he
should have a lot of confidence from it, so the
margins are close and small for those players to perform
at the highest level on the world stage at Test rugby.
(08:44):
But we made no excuse about that because that's that's
how the All Black should be, all right.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And the players who have gone on ahead to England,
they left before the Japan Test, what will they have
been doing before the rest of you arrive and catch
them up.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yes, so we obviously we had a bit of a
head out during the week, just a bit of a training,
a couple of scenarios against Panasonic, so that was really good.
And they've got our game plan effectively already that we've
been talking around, for example, put in context their line
out menu and what we sort of feel we'll run
(09:19):
there with Tupo Y and Scott Barrett being over there,
so they'll have a look at that. But there's no
guarantees that they are the guys that will be in
that squad either, but you know, there's a fair indication
that we're sent them there for a reason and to
get ahead of the travel that's coming up. But they
know which game we want to play. We've had leaders
meetings were needed to so that we can hit the
(09:39):
Northern tour running because effectively we've got a full week
for England in six days a goot Ireland, so they
need to be on the front foot and that's why
we did it to keep these boys. Are those boys fresh?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You know?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Three big tests, three or four big tests in.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
A row, all right? Yeah, exciting times ahead for you
and for All Blacks fans as well. Congratulations on the
one over Japan, Jayce, thanks for jetting to us.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Safe travels, mate, no worries, thank you, Thank.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
You, Jase Jason Ryan, then assistant coach of the All
Blacks sixty four nineteen.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talks it B Weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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