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October 31, 2024 23 mins

In this episode, Sienna dreams of becoming a star netballer like Silver Fern Goal Shooter Grace Nweke. 

Grace joins Sienna and Ben to share her inspiring journey, which began with her family's immigration to New Zealand and finding the sport of netball which has evolved into a remarkable sports career.

Episode highlights include:

  • Grace's insights on handling the immense pressure of joining the Silver Ferns at just 18 years old and how she overcame feelings of intimidation while competing on the international stage.

  • Strategies for dealing with major setbacks, including injuries, and the importance of maintaining motivation and rekindling a love for your career during challenging times.

  • Believing in yourself! As Ben tests Grace to make a pressure netball shot in the podcast studio with scrunched up newspaper and a rubbish bin!

Finally, Grace reflects on her journey and shares what advice she would give her younger self at Sienna's age.

About The Show:

Sienna Boyce is 14 years old and constantly tells her Dad, Ben Boyce, what she wants to be when she grows up – an actor, scientist, rugby player, singer, chef or politician. 

Each episode of ‘When I Grow Up’ aims to showcase inspirational females from around Aotearoa and shine a light on them, what it takes to do their job and learn about their story of how they got to where they are so that Sienna can help make up her mind.

This is a podcast to help the teenager in your life dream big.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Heads podcast network.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Mine neber seeing it and this is my dadmin. Hi,
And when I grow up, I want to be a
TikTok start right, or a sports player okay, I hang
on people, Yeah, even a fashion designer actually maybe in
all the players.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, okay, okay, slow down. Maybe we should talk to
some amazing females who inspire you and who you want to.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Be, Like, yeah, and we can find out what they
did to get where they are.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yes, and let's do it as a TV show.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
No, Dad, only old people watch TV. Let's do it
as a podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I guess that works, snake.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
This is when I grow up.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I was super excited to chat to our gifts on
this episode New Zealand nipbuller Grace Niwiki because one, she's
a top sports person and also two I love.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Playing nitball and three that was it.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
You have to actually listen to find out the first.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well, well three, I watch a lot of your neckball,
So I had a lot of questions for Grace as
well in this chat, though, when she said that she
made the New Zealand team at age eighteen years old,
I was just like, man, what am I doing with
my life? You don't want to know what I was
doing at Ajten's either, Why I know what you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
You're crashing her own car into your driveway.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I did it, yeah, right off of came drive. But
nothing aout me.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
In that chat with Grace, we find out what it
actually takes to make it as a top sports person
and how hard it is dealing with all the pressure
and when things don't actually go right.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yeah, Grace is awesome. I can see why you look
up to her.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Because she's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, because she's awesome and awesome because she's tall. That's
really tall.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, I know she's tall. Ignoring that, enjoy a really
fun and interesting chat with Grace Nowiki as I find
out if I really want to be like her. Hey,
dad today, when I grew up, I want to be
a knit buller like Grace.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Nooky.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, well you know how this works. You know the drill.
We've done these a couple of times now. I always
put you on the spot and say, why do you
want to be like Grace, remembering that Grace is right
here as well, so she wants to hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Grace, I find you super inspiring. You've inspired lots of
kiwis all different backgrounds and they all look up to you.
You've achieved so much at such a young age, and
you've seen in New Zealand and being one of the
world's best knitbullers. You've also had a lot of setbacks,
but you've just improved and come back from them.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Thank you. That's very good.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Sometimes it's such a key we thing is that you
don't know how to take a take it. Take a
nice thing, a nice compliment. We talk about this and
weven on the show. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
No, I'm definitely the same.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Are you the same? I mean, it's a lot of
people do look up to you, but literally look up
to you as well. I imagine it was your six
six four.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Six fours chase.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah yeah, Okay, we can do it back to back
at the end there and see how we go. But
I definitely think you're winning that one.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, and you've played a lot of sports growing up.
But why did you fall in love with knitball?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
It's a great question.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
I think I definitely gave lots of things to go
in primary school, high school, and nitball just stuck with
me for the social aspect. I did high jump for
a webit and I really enjoyed that, but it was
a very individual sport and it was like you versus
you the whole time, and it was quite mentally challenging.
But I think nitball stuck with me because of the

(02:58):
connection you can have as your teammates and being able
to lean on them and have that friendship on and
off the court.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
So that's probably why I.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Stuck with it. Can I ask because I see you
in a place near bo, it's just a place nearby.
They love it. It's a great game. But at what
stage do they go inside? Because it's like the nible
seems like the sport. It could be a hurricane, hurricane
or a blizzard or it's like it's terrible conditions and
they just carry on play.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah it's rain, hale, sunshine, whatever, Like you're just going
to stay out there. I think have played in like
Direct Haile, like Sideway Tale back in the day.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
They're really committed to keeping the game going.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
So I was like, you know that cancelling a game
is an option, but they just keep going.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
They just love it. To Netful culture, Yeah it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
And your parents are originally from Nigeria. They came to
New Zealand where you were born and you want to
be an inspiration for other Kiwis, for families who came
from overseas as well.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Right, Yeah, absolutely, I think I'm proud to hopefully be
an inspiration to everyone. But I think physically, with my
background being Nigerian, being born and raised in Auckland, you know,
there aren't very many other athletes like me, you know,
you know, showing what you can do and.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Being that point of difference.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
So I'm really proud of that, and I hope that
other kids with a similar background to me can see
me and feel like they can do what I'm doing
or be inspired by my experiences.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
That's awesome. Just a quick question for me Tuesday night.
You're free for social netball.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
You wouldn't believe how many times I get asked these
kind of questions. Even if I wanted to, I could it,
and I definitely don't.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Contraction like what you play it what socially? Socially Yeah,
I can imagine you would get asked that.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, all the time. My DM, there full of people
wanting a little nipball villain. I'm sorry, guys, they can't
do it.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Do they still check your nails like they're doing seeing
able before. Do they still do it?

Speaker 3 (04:44):
They're still checking their nails yet game?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, even at international level. Yeah yeah, Well on some
of the other things. You guys have it on your neighbor.
You have the candy selling.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Candy salad, and we've got Player of the Day. Do
you still get players?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
MVP?

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Get you block of chocolates.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
We actually want to make candre so you can't, which
is we've got so much chocolate.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's great Mandarin's halftime.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
We have a lolli jar, and we have just like
gels and all the rest, like hydration stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
So the candy cellar is kind of almost the thing. Yeah,
the purpose bring their candy along. I don't know how
long it lasts.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
No, it's sucking moldy sometimes if my room isn't tidy.
I've got grumpy dad. Okay, right, you say you have
grumpy knees.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Oh gosh, yeah, I just got I've got the knees
I said, like a nine year old man, and I'm
twenty too. They're just not very good. I think nipple
has already taken its toll on my knees. And I've
got jumpers knee, which is like batalentint numpathy. So that's
like my diagnosis. It's a chronic injury, so it's not
like a one time thing. It's just a constant thing
I'm going to manage throughout my career. So money suck.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, So how much we're in tear? Is that on
your body? Because it is a lot of jumping and landing,
right and this imagine you trained for it, but there's
still just a lot of pressure on your body.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
We do all we can in the gym to strengthen
and prepare my tendons and knees for the load.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
But yeah, it's just hard.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
I think in my position as well, jumping and landing
all the time, that's my job, and so my knees
are definitely struggling a bit, but we're working on that.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
And it's a sport too, where you don't always get
to land on back on the surface, right, there's other
people's legs and all sorts in the ways.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Absolutely, I've taken some pretty dodgy landings before, and you know,
it's quite competitive and people are trying to you know,
push you here, there and everywhere. So it's a bit
of a balance trying to figure out how to do
that safely.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well, you've had some really tough injuries. You took your
kneecap at the World Cup, You've been injured this season.
How do you deal with all these setbacks?

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, it's a great question. I think I'm still learning
how to deal with it. The World Cup injury was
really hard, and I kind of I look back on
it and I still feel like we so could have
won that, and I feel really good to not have
been able to do that and be able to contribute
to the journey there. But I learned a lot from
that experience and it's really revived my love for the game.

(07:02):
And then coming back this season and kind of re
enduring in the same way was really frustrating, and I
think it's been the most frustrated I've been with my
body in a long time.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
And I think I'm still learning as I go.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
I don't really know what to say, Like I feel
like I'm at a place now where I just have
to play and work hard, and if I reinjure or
whatever happens, it's just the way the cookie crumbles. But
I'm just like happy to be on court in training
when I can be tearing.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Your kneecap doesn't sound it doesn't sound that fun.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
No, No, it looked like.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Your body go kind of into shock when that happens
or what happens.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, well the kneecap sounds like a bit of an exaggeration.
It was my batality day and your batality and kneecaps,
so it's.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Like a whole.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
It's a pretty weird injury. You know, people do the
acls and arcolllees and nball and it's super dramatic. You
can see, you can literally see or hear the tender
or whatever it's here. With me, it was just a
really awkward jump and land. It's stung for a bit,
but it wasn't that bad. And so the next day
I was walking. I wasn't in a brace. I could
move around pretty confidently. So it was so frustrating to

(08:00):
be told you can't play. But I could walk upstairs,
I could run as I tried. And so it's a
pretty weird injury, and I think going through the rehab
process made me respect more how bad it actually was.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
But it's not one that gets a lot of sympathy.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
No, yeah, you need because your job, like a podcast
or something. Ye just sitting down all day.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
This is when I grow up. I also read that
injuries helped you fall in love with the sport again
because you realized how much you missed playing it.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yep, absolutely. I.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Before that big injury at World Cup, I'd had a
pretty smooth rise to the top. I'd say, like, injury free,
I'd like get out of the car from pulling up
to training and be on the court in like ten
minutes and just love training and have no issues with
my body. And I think that injury kind of put
my career thus far into perspective, and I had more

(08:54):
of an appreciation for how lucky I am to be
able to train and play and run, and how much
you can miss out on when you are injured, and
kind of reminded me of why I play and what
I want out of my career.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I guess I thought about.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
It a lot and was very unsure at times, and
I think that injury really cemented that I want to
be around for the next World Cup. I want to
be around for the next this or that, and so
I feel like that informs what I do with my
life now.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Must be cool. What was it feeling like because you've
just come back. Yeah, you know from that injury. Is
was it like running back out into the court again.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
It's so great. Yeah, it's hard to describe. It's so awesome.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
I think I just feel really bleased and I feel
like I'm just like lucky to call nipple my job
and show up and play with my team, and it's
like those warm featheris like, I just like, it's just
hard and it has been really hard. So to be
able to like take the box and make progress and
see that on court, it's really cool.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Oh that was really cool. Let's go back a little bit.
When you came into the Mystics professional team as a
teenager playing against adults. You played for New Zealand when
you're eighteen. You're only twenty two. Now, how do you
not get intimidated by these older players?

Speaker 4 (10:00):
I definitely was. I definitely was. My teammates were, They
were awesome. They were very scary, and I think, yeah,
I was definitely still a kid. I wasn't very organized,
and I was a kid going into a very professional
sitting working alongside adults, but being in a team environment,
and so it was a very steep learning curve. And
I'm still very scared of some of my teammates I've

(10:21):
known for a long time now, So yeah, it doesn't
get any easy.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Kind of throwing you on the DV? I guess a
little bit, but you probably learned so much from that, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Absolutely, There's some lessons that I had to learn the
hard way in my first couple of seasons that stick
with me now, and that I look at other girls
in similar shites to me back then and I can
kind of see what that was like for me and
try and support them through that as well.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
So should I be harsher on the YOUA like, I'm
trying to you know, she's coming through this podcast, this
radio thing.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
I'm like, you know, yeah, tough love always looks yeah,
doing too good.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I was like, all right, just just hold back, all right?

Speaker 2 (10:53):
You know? So I sawd you on social media and
you seem to have a lot of fun outside of
sport with your friends, travel concerts. How important is it
to have fun? Please tell dad it's.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
So important exactly. I love it. I love a gig
and live music and travel.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
So cool.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
We get to do a bit of that after pinning
cool events the past couple of years. So I love
getting amongst it and big into music, so if I
can get to a live show, I'm stoked.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
You must be a little bit of a nightmare to
be behind in the concert.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Gosh, absolutely, and it ruins my experience because I feel
so guilty. You're aware of myself. But I'm trying to
like Gobert and just be like sorry out sorry.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I just love to be here too, But I think
I'm very aware of you.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Have you always been tall?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:38):
I was like tallish in primary school, but as long
as I can remember, I've been talling everyone else.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well I've always been sitting down in school photos.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
So what's that where the shorter ones are? Well, that's
the thing. I mean, you played it well. You love
neball as well, but it doesn't you know, it's a
cool thing about the game. You can be really tall,
but then you can also be not as tall but
quick and you edgoe and that's kind of cool. You know,
you kind of play for your strengths.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Right, Absolutely, there's a room. But everyone kids always come
and say like, oh, I'm not tall enough, or I
need to be tall to place. You absolutely don't need
to be, and I think it's for everyone tall. Being
tall helps and turning positions, but the shorties have a
place here too.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
You're also super driven. You're at UNI as well as
playing nipble. How do you manage both those?

Speaker 4 (12:24):
I get assis question all the time, and I always
say that I don't. I struggle, and it's always that
one thing's doing really well, the other thing's not doing
so well, or vice versa. And it's been really, really hard.
And I'm in my thirfty year of study now, I've
still got just about a year to go to finish,
and I'm very much over it, and I'm adopted the

(12:45):
mindset that sees get degrees, which I'm just like, it's okay,
Like as long as I'm passing and going to the
next thing, I'm just happy to keep moving on.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
But do you think it's good to have like, you know,
because obviously nipbule's your passion, you're playing for the highest level,
But do you think it's good to have those those
options as well too have something else? Because you know,
like you're at the rally of netball is that you
know you can get an injury and you can't you
might not come back, So I guess you're probably thinking
about that, right.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
I always knew going into net but I still wanted
to go to UNI, and I enjoy being able to
have my netball work, and that could stress me out
and then kind of clear my head doing UNI work
or other things in my life and then kind of
that balance of not just being completely consumed by the netball.
So it's nice to have something away from that.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well, how do you deal with all the pressure out there?
Playing Ossie on TV? Thousands of people watching you go to.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Share, say how do you do it?

Speaker 4 (13:38):
The pressure is definitely for me that I'm working on
I think an am D Now, I'm all good, like
I don't get phased very much, but international is definitely
like a high pressure situation. And those Ozzy girls don't
give much away and they're very very physical. And yeah,
I've learned to find my feet, and I think knowing
that the coach is back me, knowing that I'm actually
good at what I do, has really helped. But there

(14:01):
are definitely those moments where like you miss a shot
or you kind of miss theming up and you're kind
of beating yourself up, but you just have to let
it go and keep going because you're there for sixty minutes.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
So yeah, we'll put the pressure on you right now.
We're going to a newspaper. Okay, great, Yeah, that's great.
Oh yeah, what am I take the scrunch up by
the newspaper? I got here and see you know, you
pick up that bin and let's see if you can
make a shot now grace pressure shot? How I could
do this having not warmed up though, having not warmed up,
Here we go, Here we go. Okay, okay, here we go.

(14:30):
Oh we got one more? I love it. Let the
pressure gets to you.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
We no, exactly exactly, like it.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Says the thing. You are always got to miss some shots, right,
you know every game you're never going to be perfect. Yeah,
so you probably just need to shrug those off.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah. Absolutely, that's part of the game.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Like I crumble, I would crumble, I'd be we're crowd
to get my own here, and I'll be starting to
light you know, so you know, just being I guess,
as you say, been confident in your own ability. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, I think the more that I do it, the
more I know that I'm good at it. And yeah,
I think, excepting that you might miss one or two,
just don't miss any more than that.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Try not to you should. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, we see playing games on TV, but we don't
see all the work that goes into it.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
How much work?

Speaker 2 (15:18):
When does the beef test stop?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
You always talk about the.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Test yet we do a yo yo. Yeah. Yeah, it's awful.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
It's awful, and people will never see what really goes
on behind the scenes. But you know, it's our jobs
to work hard and to train, and so I think
when you change your mindset a bit and just like
lean into it, it helps a lot. But it doesn't
get any easier that running tests is always I'm not
a runner, like, it's not my strength, but I'm getting
there and it's just part of the job at end
of the day.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Do you find it because I've been you know, we've
been to a couple of Silver Ferns games and it's
a vibe. It's so much fun. The music's crank. These
people with sparkly works with cheer sticks and Shanaia Twain
music and their mums are up and done. It's lots
of fun. Do you do you feed off that or
do you kind of do you hear the crowd? I
mean what happens?

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yeah, absolutely definitely can hear the crowd home crowds are
always great. I love seeing my family and friends and
getting that support from people in the arena, but I
almost love the away games more. I like going to
new places and I think kind of having that villain
kind of story where like you can get a good
shot in or you're playing while you can silence a crowd.
You know that they're not cheering for you, but they
don't have anything to say, so they're quiet, and I

(16:24):
kind of feed off that silence even more.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
So.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, I love just that intense atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
I love playing netball. What is the best bit of
advice You've got?

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Best bit of advice would be to play other sports.
That's what I always say to people. I think, just
do other things. Enjoy your life, enjoy your friendships.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
And then you can enjoy.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
It antbre more, enjoy the people in netball, and don't
focus as much on the actual game. Try other positions
and just have fun with it.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
What about me on the sidelines? What advice? How much
am illaw to yell out?

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Not a lot. We always get told, like the parents.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
It's just they really go for it, really into it.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, as well, Okay, we're gonna do some quick fire questions.
You have a twin brother, do you guys have a
twin to lifts the thing going on?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Quite different?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
We are very different and also like it's what do
you call it? But not identical. We're the other one, right,
So I just feel like we just missed that opportunity
to be like really similar. But like wise, hell, I've
been told than him our whole life and then he
just shut up like last year.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, and does he play sport at all?

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Or is he plays basketball? But he's he thinks that
he's like Lebron's a random guy who's yeah, he's.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Very good shot him.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
You've also got a bronze middle at the Commonwealth game.
So where do you keep it?

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Like in a drawer in my room?

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Just like with another the nicknacks like the mess Yeah yeah,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Do you kind of keep trophies up and about or
do you kind of just want to go cool? I've
done that. I appreciate it, but then kind of move
on to the next thing.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
I'm not really one to like hang up a middle
or put a new vote call up, but I.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Just I'd be wearing anywhere Walter today wearing I think
it was gold. Oh yeah, gotcha the goal one next
time coming.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
To the gray painted girl. This is when I grow up.
You're also into your fashion. You love to create in
so clothes.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, my phone machine is unfortunately clearing a bit of
daf at the moment. But I do love thiming and
kind of going up shopping and finding things to upside cool.
But I've kind of fallen off the wagon a bit
just with life.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Oh you're busy. You know you've got a sewing machine
from grandmar Was it Christmas? It was a lovely moment
to witnessed it. Remember that you were like, Mayge, his
sister had some pants. I think they needed to be
taken up, and you did it and there was a
big hut and I was like that's awesome. And then
it's just said, well I am hangar okay, But she

(19:07):
was like, can you fix my clothes?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
And I was like, yeah, it's going to.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Cost un less. You're doing it, I guess. But you're
sick of the amazing grace headlines like that's a that's
a go to for the newspapers.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
I need to work a bit harder. Yeah, amazing grace. Yeah,
it's been done.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Before, and well they say it's not it's not contact,
but it's the most contact non contact sport around surely.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Absolutely, it's the bruisers and scratches, Charlie. If it's very
very physical, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Before you go some quick fire. That's all that questions
to find out if I really want to be like
you early to bid or stay up late.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Stay up late. But I'm trying to be a little
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
All right.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Playing against your best friend or playing against the stranger
against their best friends.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh really you like that because it must be like
that when you're playing and sometimes you would know them.
You're playing the silver ferns against them, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Is that kind of good to kind of get wide
up over them?

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, just that computer that nature really comes out when
you know them. So yeah, absolutely, And then after court
it can be sweet.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
So okay, fitness or day off fitness, playing in the
rain or the scorching sun, you playing side.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Dog or cat dog.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Always late or always early?

Speaker 4 (20:27):
I am always late that I'm trying to make sure
I made sure TikTok or Instagram, Instagram.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, bubble tea or a frappuccino, bubble two winning by
a landslide or winning by a single.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Point, single point.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Close again?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, okay, I thought it would be way more.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Relaxing, boring, like by a single point than you worked
hard for it, and hopefully like the shot winning.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Jandles or Crocs, Crocks, Kindle or a real book, a
real book, nibble with music in the background, or nibble
in complete silence.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Oh you like that? You like the opposites and crowd
though obviously.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Yeah, when I'm training I like having music on, but
if in a game, I actually hate when.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
I can hear the DJ make a little mixed fu Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, wow, they know you. Then do you hear the advice?
Thank you? I am trying to shoot it. Thank you, guys,
I didn't think of shooting before.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Oh Grace, thank you so much for your time. You
have achieved so much at such a young age. But
I know you have so much full time and you'll
do so much more. You've inspired so many young people
like me, so thank you so much. And finally, what
would you say to your thirteen or fourteen year old self?

Speaker 4 (21:50):
I would say to believe in yourself and to not
read into what you think other people think of you
too much, and just have fun with your sport and
your school and that you've got some cool things in
the works.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Thank you so much for your time today. It is
really inspiring. Loved hanging out with you and it was awesome.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
It's really good advice, isn't it. Have fun but work hard.
I think you know if you're going to be successful.
See you know, there seems to be the key. It
seems to be a theme that we're getting with a
lot of these people.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, you're such a dad.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
I do like it when people say they work hard
and it pays off.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I found Grace really great to chattoo, and I learned
so much about her.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, I know, she was awesome. So I'm guessing, though,
we need to talk to more people before you decide
who exactly you want to.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Be Like, well, you know how this works, so we'll
catch you next time. Also, if you think of anyone
you'd love us to chattoo, hit us up on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, see it up. You want to make your shot
now with a screwed up piece of newspaper. I'm actually
are you sure? You're sure? Sure
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