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September 12, 2024 27 mins

Lucy Lawless joins Sienna and Ben to share her incredible journey from becoming a household name as Xena: Warrior Princess to achieving a hugely successful career in numerous TV and film roles.

In this episode, they discuss:

  • Success from anywhere: How growing up in a small country like New Zealand doesn’t limit your potential, and what it’s like to break into the global entertainment industry and how maintaining a positive mindset can help navigate the tougher times.
  • The role of fortune: The impact of hard work paired with a sudden stroke of good luck, as well as the eerie experience of a fortune teller predicting a serious accident.
  • The power of kindness: Why being nice to people not only makes you a better person to work with but also a better human being.

About The Show:

Sienna Boyce is 13 years old and constantly tells her Dad, Ben Boyce, what she wants to be when she grows up – an actor, scientist, rugby player, singer, chef or politician. 

Each episode of ‘When I Grow Up’ aims to showcase inspirational females from around Aotearoa and shine a light on them, what it takes to do their job and learn about their story of how they got to where they are so that Sienna can help make up her mind.

This is a podcast to help the teenager in your life dream big.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Heads podcast network.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Mine never seeing it and this is my dadmin. Hi,
and when I grow up, I want to be a
TikTok start right, or a sports.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Player Okay, I hang on people, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Even a fashion designer. Actually maybe in all the players.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Okay, slow down. Maybe we should talk to some amazing
females who inspire you and who you want.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
To be, like, yeah, and we can find out what
they did to get where they are.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yes, and let's do it as a TV show.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
No, Dad, only old people watch TV. Let's do it
as a podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I guess that works. Snake.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
This is when I grow up.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
This episode is so exciting. Two words actor Lucy Lawless.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
There's three words the last Okay. But Lucy is truly
world famous. I mean she played the iconic character Zena
Warrior Princess, one of TV's most popular characters.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yes, and then she's acted in so many massive movies
and TV shows, proving it actually doesn't matter where you're
from and you can do anything anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, she's super talented. But her story involves a lot
of luck, you know, good luck and actually bad luck.
And you know how she got the role of Zena
and good luck. But how she didn't listen to a fortune?
Tell the hell's that?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah? That story is incredible, plus dealing with the rediction
and also believing in yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, it's all on this episode with the legendary Lucy
Lawless to.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Wards, can you do her Zena battle Christ very well?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
No, don't, maybe we do it? Don't please don't?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, No, when I grow up, I want
to be an actor like Lucy Lawless.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
All snapsy because when I grew up, I want to
be an actor like Lucy Lawless. But Lucy is here
right now, she's joining us. Lucy. I'm sure you want
to know why Ciana wants.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
To be like You're right, Why do you want to
be like an actress like Lucy Lawless?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, Lucy, you are from a small country, but you've
acted in huge, huge international movies and shows and that's
super inspiring. And like your character Zena, you are a
role model for all females in real life who fight for.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
What they believe in.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
That's good. Yeah, I've watched a lot of international TV
shows and movies, not quite the same as being in them.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yes, thank you very much, It's I got It's sort
of good luck coupled with being ready and working hard,
but there is a luck element in it.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, I was going to say, because Zena, you know,
as the role that made you famous, well famous, did
you have any idea when you got it that was
going to be such a big role in such a
popular TV show and character?

Speaker 4 (02:21):
I just assumed it would be I'm so damn green.
But what was it about that only got the gig
because somebody else fell out at the last minute and
they'd been training for like a month doing stunts or
something in another country, and yeah, they fell out. They
were having too good a time over in London, I believe,

(02:45):
and it just fell to me.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
And in fact, the producers said, let's use this local
kid in New Zealander, and the studio said, no, here's
a list of five other actresses Americans that would rather
you go to first, and they all turned it down
because at that time the show my character appeared on Hercules,
the legendary Journeys was it was untested, it had never screened,

(03:12):
so people didn't know it was going to be a hit,
and they didn't want to leave Ala during January, which
in those days were called pilot season, Like everybody had
to be in town for pilot season to compete for
the jobs. They didn't want to go to New zeal
in the bottom they're like where we weren't known as
a film mecher in those days.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Well, I was thinking of that. Nowadays you're filming Avatar here.
Well you know, now film the Avatar, Lord of the
Rings or so many productions. Yeah, and Minecraft, But back
then you were probably paved the way a lot for
productions in New Zealanders.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
I mean, I won't say me, but definitely my husband,
the guy who would later become my husband, and our
production certainly taught a lot of people how to make
swords that were functioning, had different functions. Wow, and they
Richard Richard Taylor, Sir Richard Taylor, he started out. I
remember him being the horse's ass, you know he was,
I mean he his design was it was like a

(04:01):
centaur or something, right, So he was inside the centaur
with everybody else operating the This is Richard Taylor.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Who's Richard? He's the guy that it's Weta workshops. They
do amazing stuff on Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Everybody starts somewhere. He designed the horses ars. I'm not
saying that's all he was doing. Wasn't just occupying space?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Actually did over job for you.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Now, can you explain Zena for us?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Gen Z, Well, Lucy's here, I mean, Lucy can help
me explain it. And Zena was kind of I mean
it was you were a kick ass fighting a warrior
warrior princess in the name, but it also was like
a mythical sort of time, like finding gods and goddesses, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
And the reason it stood out, Cena is that in
those days you didn't have two female leads without some
sort of male running the show. So Charlie's Angels had Charlie.
He was in the title, so it it was one
of the very first shows that made the first two
leads to women without husbands, without you know, any means

(05:09):
of male support.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
And it's pretty cool going back to what you said before,
how it was a bit of luck and obviously your
talent as well. But isn't it for I guess for
young people listening right now, how you your life can
just change in an instant and you don't know when
that's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Dude, I should have known, you know why?

Speaker 1 (05:23):
It was?

Speaker 4 (05:24):
It was new Year's nineteen ninety five, I guess nineteen
ninety four. I can't remember. Let's say nineteen ninety four
New Year's and there was three days of like horoscopes
and my one was like fame and fought, you know what,
all the stuff where I was with my husband and
my little baby down the bottom of New Zealand. I was,

(05:48):
how old twenty I guess twenty four down the bottom
of New Zealand on a camping trip in the middle
of nowhere. It seemed like ridiculous, you know, and I'm
not anyway. I kept it for a while, actually that
because like four days later, I'm in Auckland. They're dyeing
my hair and you know, putting me on a horse
and saying, go be Zena. Wow.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Wow, that's amazing, amazing.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, Warrior Princess from complete.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Anonymity to doing some role that would then spin off
into its own show.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yew Well, we watch some Xena online and love Zena's
better cry so off.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
When are you busting that out these days?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Not much? You know, I seldom do that sometimes when
go to just to be a good sport, you sport, right,
but but I don't like to be a performing monkey generally.
The few times that I have actually done it of
my own volition would be in the car to stop
the kids from fighting space. That's like really obnoxious.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
That's a good thing for parents. Le's think right out.
I didn't know I could bust out a Zena Warrior
cry just stops them every argument. You can do the
Warrior Princess nowadays without the warriors or something like that.
Amazing if you want to remodelize.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
It anyway, I reckon that should be on a big
billboard up who Obviously we're talking about Zena, the job
that change your life, and you've done so many other amazing.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Roles too, which we'll talk about.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
But what we don't see is the times you didn't
get the jobs. I've done a bit of acting and
it's super tough. So what's your advice for well young
people dealing with that rejection?

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:22):
That's brutal, isn't it. I suppose that's why. That's how
you know if you can't, if you can't handle the nose,
go do something else. There's so many jobs in the
even in our business that aren't don't end up making
you feel like you're getting punched in the guts all
the time. But if you are made for this, you
can take it. Because you cannot help yourself by getting

(07:45):
back up. Your hope keeps springing eternal. You just keep
coming back. You believe in yourself in some weird way
that you can't explain. That's no guarantee either, by the way.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Because it must be hard to get, you know, your
hope back up, Like you say, how do you keep
doing that and not going to an audition or and
this is probably for any job and not go ah,
I'm not going to get this.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
I don't know how to explain it, except it's a
little bit like that very very old movie called Gone
with the Wind, Like you're so down. This woman has
lost everything. The house is burning, her lovers rejected her,
She's lost everything she has. The tomorrow is another day.
You just you can't you live so in the moment.

(08:27):
I've always lived my life like I'm a goldfash, like
I like everything's new. I don't know how to explain it.
There just seems to be the truth for me.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Wow. And after Zena, you went on to work on
so many TV shows and movies. But I've got to
ask about voicing on The Simpsons, it's pretty much our
favorite show. What was that like?

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, what was that? Quite quite intimidating, you know, it
really helps if you don't have any association when you're
going on to somebody else's big show, Like, if you're
intimidated by it, you're not going to do your best
works to be a bit ho hum about it. Then
you're relaxed. Relaxation is the key to all creativity. That's

(09:07):
why I'm nice to everybody on my TV show. I
want them to be the most relaxed, the most. Love
them into the position so that they can be everything
they can be, because I want them to be good.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
So when you're voicing for someone like The Simpsons or
you Despicable Me, or you're inspired man, how do you
not deal think about all the things that are going
on around you.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Well, Matt Groening is such. He's one of those guys
who makes you feel great. All those people they just
love what they do and they love their actors, and
they set that tone so they'll help you get there.
That was one of the highlights of my career. Actually,
I can imagine looking back, I go, oh my gosh,
I was yellow, you know, I was that in my laugh.

(09:50):
The comic book guy collected me.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, and I got to fly and even say my
own name at the end of the episode.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Did you voice that? Sorry, I know this is not
about just voicing for the we love the show, but
did you voice that over there and with other characters
or how does that work?

Speaker 4 (10:05):
No, you don't do it with the other characters. You
do it a lot. That's the weird thing. If you
were with them, you could write on their energy. Yeah,
but you've just got to rely on the producers to
get you where you need to be and just trust them.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
So you're on your your own private like room and.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Ever see them. I mean they live all over the world.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
This is when I grow up. Well, recently you started
in another hit show, My Life is Murdered, really great show,
and I got to film with you one of the days,
and as you were saying before, you always be kind
and nice to everyone and see it which actually really helped.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Me, so you didn't need to be as kind of
Let's see when I came home and said how lovely
you were to work worth and how you gave time.
I mean you could have got it to get your
coffees and all sorts of stuff. You know, it's so
lovely that you do that. Do you learn from other people,
like when you're acting with other people as well, that
being nice to people and creating that environment.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Ah, I'm sure there have been people who definitely have
inspired me. Wendy Maylee as an actress that you all
know if you see her, She's one of those people.
So she's very inspirational to me. But generally that's just
how you want to live your life. Yeah, it's only
about the quality of a connection with whoever you're with.
And I don't enjoy being emotionally siloed off from you

(11:18):
or you or you fun in that. Yeah, you know,
you want to feel people's goodness, your hearts and just
be open to whatever they've got going on that day.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
It was great also seeing how the actors were.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Did you the Zoom did you remember? Because it was
around COVID times and as you know, got the role
just to be in one scene with you, which is awesome.
She I loved it. But you had like a read
through on Zoom the whole castle crew and seeing her
light taking and she was by herself in the room.
We're like, all right, we'll see on the zoom. Your
scene was done in how long?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Like moans the very first scene, it was a five
minute scene and I was on for two hours.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Afterwards, she was like, it was awesome. We've got to
see how the other characters read and all the sort
of stuff that goes on.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
I know, who what was that?

Speaker 4 (12:02):
So what did you take from that?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Patients and also how.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
They Yeah, seeing how they work it was really cool.
But also I was like, I don't know understand because
I've never watched.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
My Life as Murder.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Obviously I watch it now, but I was just like,
what is going on? Right?

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah, you're right. Patience is a big thing. And enjoying
other people's work. That's what you learn at drama school. Actually,
a lot of the time, you don't get up to
do your scene. You have to watch other people and
you're going to be interested in them, and you show
the dissecting how they're doing things, why, what strategies work
that that's part of the craft. Yeah, but you're right,

(12:42):
patience is a big thing.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
How would you go in real life solving murders? Are
you like your character?

Speaker 4 (12:47):
I don't know. I don't I don't think I'm the
right sort of person. But I'm really dogged, you know,
I'll weasel my way to the.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Truth, right.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
I needed that for making this documentary, so you need
to I'm interested in what people have to say, and
I'm and my brain is very I'm very oral. So
listening to you, I'm going to hear not just what
you're saying, but how you're saying it. Compare it to
how you say and then I'm going to go.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Now I'm feeling self conscious what is the.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Relationship between these and so that's evident in this film
that I've made. So I don't know how you even
got on that subject. It's just about however your brain
works best is what you've got to work with. So
I'm oral.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Do you think it's important to be your yourself as well?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Like?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
How much of it? Because I know there's so many
people and lots of industries, but acting in particular, there's
so many people want to be actors from all over
the world. Like how important is it to offer something
that's unique? You know, be yourself as well?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Well?

Speaker 4 (13:44):
That's important from the point of view of the studio
or whatever, that you have something that they think people want.
But how do you try to be unique. If you
try to be unique, you're just a phony or a persona, right,
So I mean everybody's unique, and if you've got to
trust that, I guess. But I think some of the

(14:05):
best actors in the world are people who are hiding
from their true selves.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Really.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
I mean, look, how many of these brilliant, brilliant actors
grew up in cars with their families, with really unstable environments,
the drugs and things up to cover up this whole
of this dearth of stability in their lives. They're the
greatest actors because there's nowhere else they'd rather be them
on set. That's the safest place to be home with

(14:31):
the parents, no thank you, which may be the back
of a car. So I don't know how to answer
that question.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Actually, yeah, well, you personally have had an amazing career,
but one horrible moments when you fell off a horse
during the filming of Late night American talk show and
you fractured your palvis. Is that Is it true that
a fortune teller predicted this?

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yes, that really happened.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Oh my god, it was a cutout in the paper,
not like.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
You were in Turkey. My husband and I. This is
before our kids were worn, so I must honeymoon something
like that. We're in Turkey and our guide says, I
have a sixteen year old cousin who tells reads coffee
grinds to you want to do that? And we're like,
she was like no, no, she's really really good. Well okay,
so he gets us on the Bloody Fairy and we

(15:22):
go to the across the Bosphorus and into the eastern
part of town. This sixteen year old girl speaks no English,
but she does know who Zena is. Yes, well, it
was already a big hand. This is way early days,
but it was.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Still the internet, like so you know, you know the internet,
that's probably before the internet, right, So go weou at
the same time worldwide, it's pretty amazing.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, it was much harder on those days to get
cut through, but played really big and places like the
quite religious places actually Iran, Turkey, Philippines, Italy. Wow places. Yeah,
just had this weird appeal and I can't really say, well, anyway,
this girl she knew who I was, is what I'm saying.

(16:04):
She could have researched, I guess. So she said, yeah,
you're oh, you're going to do really well. You're going
to make some money, You're going to have some children.
I'm like, don't they say that to everybody? Probably she's
seen me on TV. It's an assumption. She knows I'm
with this man who is ura is going to be

(16:26):
my husband. But she's saying, look, there's a man all
through an interpreter. There's a man with a big chin.
Who's the man with a big chin? And I'm like,
I don't know, Yes, you do? You know this guy
big chin all through the interpreter. I don't know anybody.
She said, yes, you do. He's got kind of long hair.
It's black and black and not it's really gray. It's
not really dark, it's a mixture. And I'm like, she says,

(16:49):
he's going to hurt you really badly. And I'm like,
I wasn't allowed to tell the story on the Jay
Lennard story, but they didn't want me to say that line.
But this is what she said. He's going to hurt
you very badly. And I'm going, I don't know who
you're talking about. She says, yes you do. She said,
I went, oh, you know, I have an ex husband

(17:12):
who's got here like that, but he doesn't really Virginia
would never hurt me. It's not you know, it's not
like and she goes, you know this person, stay away,
he's going to hurt you. Two weeks later, I wake
up in a hospital bed and my husband goes, remember
what that girl said?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
A lot of this talk show you got on a
horse fan.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
But I wasn't booked for it. I was a ringing
because Ivana Trump dropped yeah, because they were doing the
First Wives Club, so she was the you know, the
first wife of Donald Trump, and those days not anything
like a president. He wasn't even in politics. She dropped out,
and they just plugged me in and put me on
a horse and made me ride in and I and
I said, this horse, because I ride English, this horse

(17:52):
rides American. It's different language, horse language. And I said,
I can't ride this horse. And they're like, oh you can.
She thought I was being modest. I'm like, no, really
can't ride this horse. This horse is nervous and I'm
giving it the wrong signals. And then so we do
it once it's fine, they go, let's do one more
time for insurance, one more time for safety. Of course,

(18:13):
that's the time the horses feed go right, up from under,
I'm slammed on the ground and yeah, I break my
pelvisin and give myself a concussion.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
And the fortune teller pretty much predicted that.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
She said that, And poor old Jay Lennard to do
with him, obviously, he.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Is quite a large GenZ the talk show famous.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Very famous, and of course I did know him, but
he wasn't top of mind. I wasn't, so that was
just a wacker do thing. Yeah, there's some things happen
in life that you just can't explain.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
This is when I grow up.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Can I ask adair question here, like, so, how important
do you think it is to have a backup plan
for what you want to do? Or do you think
that kind of gives you a sort of out in
some ways mentally to go? You know, like if you
weren't going to be an actor.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Fine for dads to say that, right, because if a
kid's going to take your advice, they should take your advice.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
For me, there was no other It was my first
to my tenth thing. That's that was what I was
made for. And it's the thing that my brothers used to,
you know, put me down for that. You know, they
go you up yourself if you are anyone yourself inside out,
and I'm like, looking back, I was like, because I
was extrovert, probably a bit of exhibition, you know, dancers.

(19:34):
I was writing things. My friend we put on little plays,
and that was showing off because my brothers are all
like tradesmen, right, so they could not deal with my
out there irishness. But my parents never said you you
can't do that. They were like, go for it.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
For it's so cool.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
There are so many actors out there and everyone wants
to be a start. What are some things you need
to succeed.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Lot?

Speaker 4 (19:57):
And what is and what is succeeding? Do well in it?
You've just got to have this unbelievable drive and faith
in yourself. You can be really successful and not a
nice person, not successful in any other way. So there's
two types of success there, and they're not mutually exclusive. Really,

(20:18):
we want to be successful in both, don't.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
You You have a a ballance?

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Yeah, be nice to people, which you've you've done both,
know you know what.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
In the old days when I was come out, I
used to be really horrified at the actresses who would
get the jobs who just were famous. All actors for
really bad behavior. But in those days you could get
away with it. These days, if you are unreliable because
you're using substances or something. It's not enough to be talented.

(20:48):
You've got to be clear of all. It's because you
will not get insured, and insurance drives Hollywood. You need
to be bankable, which means they can trust you to
show up and do the work and not be a
not be unreliable for any of the reasons that one
might be unreliable. So it's it's harder these days to

(21:08):
get away with bad behavior in my opinion, Yeah, it
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, Okay, before you go, we're gonna do some quick
fire questions to find out if I really want to be,
like yes, this or that acting in a hat movie
or in a hat TV show movie.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
It's much less work. The television is hard.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
I guess where you're look at Zena or spart I
guess all these other.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Shows for years, like you're on, especially if you're starting it.
You're on all day, every day. There is no social life.
You see your family, so you have to recalibrate your
expectations of forget work is your social life. It's like
three or four months max.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Camping or staying in a hotel camping.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Camping is where you got your break. I guess you're
still camping.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
I can't stand hotels.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Really, You've probably lived your life in a lot of hotels.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I've been staying in B and b's because I don't
like having anybody between me and the street. You know,
I don't want I can't stand it, and I want
to wash a machine. I want my own kitchen.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Camping playing a character with a New Zealand accent or
a UIs accent.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
I'm very much enjoying a Kiwi accent at the moment,
just because it's it's fun to experience a character that's
more like me, and somehow the accent is part of that.
It is a different cultural Do.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
You find it's easy to flick between the two for you,
like as far as being able to yah, you can
do that, but you get.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
A bit lazy. You know, you must get a bit
lazy if I'm in New Zealand for a while. The
muscles that you require to get up and over words,
the way they do it requires you not be so lazy.
Whereas that's why New Zealanders like doing Southern accents because
it sits in the same place, the same musculature as
a key accent.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
We just visited family in America, and every time I'd
order like a hot drink, I loved saying my name
and seeing what I get written down on the order.
I had been pie independent.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
He did bear.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Beer, like a grizzly beer. I'm like, yeah, because you
try and over announce beer, you know they'll go, oh yeah,
I got it.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Like beer bean.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
That's part of the butt. Actually, I was like, what
am I going to get today?

Speaker 4 (23:15):
I use an American keyboard on my phone just to
keep my accent crisp. So when I dictate into my phone,
I do an American. My my friends think I'm bonkers,
but it's so.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
But unfortunately, being in New Zealand, my mouth gets lazy again.
So I'm always signing this business leader, You're sincerely pussy.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay, well that's what I didn't.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Your bright lawyer pants suit and my life is murder.
Or Zena's leather suit.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Oh my god, modern clothes.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Every time that suit the iconic. So I measured. There's
a few of them. Do you know where they are
in the world?

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Ones in the Smithsonian really in Washington, in Washington, DC. Yeah, wow,
But you know, they bring them out for a short time,
then they put them back in their archive. They keep rotating. Yeah,
but that's cool, that's very cool. The others I don't.
I don't really know.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Okay, singing or whistling. I hear good at both.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Whistler. You know, I haven't sung in ages, which is terrible,
but so I'm gonna go with whistling this week.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
At this moment, a fan taking a selfie or a
fan giving you.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Fan artwork, because you get a lot of fan artwork too.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
They take a selfie, I think.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I imagine the artworks amazing. But then you're like, job,
I put this, put this up.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Sometimes that's horrifying, right, Often it's great. But my fans
know this. I can't stand it when they come they've
got pictures of me and my horse and stuff on
their backs or something like full like twelve gallon.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
People.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Oh yes. Bruce Campbell and I have this like competition
of showing off which of our fans have the most bizarre?

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Was his the bizarre? But my fans are bigger, like
they have you know, fullo podcast tattoos.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
On the fact, it's cool. I mean to have a
role like that. It's pretty that people want to tattoo
on themselves. Impressive.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Well, Lucy, thank you so much for your time. I
think you've shown us young people what you can achieve
from anywhere.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
And finally, what.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Would you tell your thirteen year old or fourteen year
old self.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
I think we all adults would go back and tell
our fitting yourself, it's gonna be okay. You know, you're
gonna figure it's gonna feel tough, and it's gonna feel scary.
It's gonna be okay because as the obstacles as you
meet them, your skills and your understanding the world is
going to help you surmount them. So chill, bro, it's
gonna be okay.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Could you imagine that yourself at thirteen and fourteen doing
what you've done.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
It's totally what I imagine. That's maybe this is a
thing too. If you can imagine it, you can head
towards it. So allow your kids to dream, you know,
let them like, let them head for it, because life
shape the dream as it has to. And I'm a
very pragmatic, very really flexible with these things. But you
flex and you change, but you eventually get there. It

(26:10):
can be a slightly sneaky path, but that's good. Wow.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Oh LSSI thanks so much for learned. I've learned so
much and I'm sure seeing it has. Thank you so
much for your time. We really appreciate my pleasure. You
know you're way too good for this podcast, right, You
know that you've been so nice and lovely, So thank
you for all your advice. It's been awesome.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I was buzzing after our chat with Lucy was so awesome.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
She took the time to chat.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I know how cold. Maybe she thought she was coming
on a bit of podcast No, but that's the thing.
I mean. She said she's nice to everyone, and she's
so nice to us, and then she wants to make
people succeed, which is great.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, and it doesn't matter where you're from. You could
be an iconic TV character like Xena or on the Simpson.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Don't forget to like or subscribe to our podcast or
like and subscribe.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
I can subscribe.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
We'll be joined next week by another inspirational female to
hear their story.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
And maybe I can figure out what I want to
be when I grow up. No,
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