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October 5, 2022 65 mins

In part four, Prop now switches to the Contra side of Iran-Contra Affair and how Ronald Regan was bout that life. 

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And uh, the illustrious Robert Evans. Yes, the awardless is

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Bob Marley, he never won any sort of music award,
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Wow that that that makes me feel better about the
fact that I have never been awarded anything. I am
the Bob Marley of podcast whoa Stretched Armstrong? No one,
but yeah, I agree, man, uh yeah, it's a good
list to be on. Yeah, all right, were we at?

(01:54):
Where were we at? Oh? I remember? Where were at?
Where we when we laughed? Where we last left our heroes? Uh.
Oliver North had a light bulb idea as to how
to solve this problem. He did. That's because he's aware
of a whole other situation that's happened on the other
side of the world that we have not yet talked about.
And just for a brief aside, the reason that Ali

(02:16):
is aware of everything that's happening. So I said in
the first episode that um McFarlane has centralized all intelligence.
So it's going through the NFC. They have this computer
system and it's this physical set of terminals that like,
the data runs directly into the terminal. It's not like
a you know, it's flying through the air or anything like.
It's running along the these these wires to the specific

(02:39):
set of terminals, and it's this group of three big
screens that all of everything the United States as an
entity knows about the world runs into these three screens.
And the guys sitting behind the screens is Ali North
and he was like on the internet before everybody, So
Ali is aware of and he's also like in charge

(03:00):
of all this stuff, you know. So uh by Bud McFarland,
he's like, look, can you do this? Can you fix this?
So one of the things he's worried about is who
we talked about in the beginning of this was the
contrast this rebel group in Nicaragua who's fighting against the
Sandinista's this again socialist group who overthrew their dictator, and

(03:21):
Reagans just like jocking just he cannot be so just
like rock hard for these guys, he calls from the
moral Yeah, I'm sure you're getting to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
like the yeah, the more the force of good in
South America, like just all kind of just out of
pocket extra shit about the contrast and that we need

(03:45):
to support our brown brothers down south just absurd, right uh.
And again, like we said before, it's based on this
fear that socialism is gonna spread in the America's right,
um on the western hemisphere period. You know, if you're
gonna if we're gonna have communists, let them be on
the other side of the Atlantic. You know what I'm saying.
At least it's not at least it's not on our

(04:06):
side of town. But either way, he's like we rocks
with the contrast and whatever they need. And he's been
on the TV like, yo, whatever these fools need, we
need to ride for him. And Congress is like slowdown, chief,
Uh buddy, you'll remember Vietnam. Yeah, this shit don't work. Fam. Yeah,
we're actually not okay with big writer. Die for these guys,

(04:31):
um because exactly. Yeah. So in two they passed what's
called the Bowling Amendment, which is if you are a teacher,
a parent, an older sibling, whatever the case, maybe you
would resonate with something like this. It's one of those
laws that or those rules that you can't believe need
to actually be stated, you know, if you know, you

(04:52):
know when you see one of those like please do
not walk off this cliff, please do not lick the
door knobs like that. Shouldn't have to tell you the
why is this a rule? Well, it's because somebody did
walk off this click and somebody actually used to lick
this door knob. So we had to make a law.
And the law was and you can't use our money
to overthrow Nicaragua. Yeah, you can't like it was abroad,

(05:14):
it was you know, you can't just go overthrowing governments
and funding militant groups without asking Congress. Right, you can't
just be you can't be cutting checks to overthrow government's
fam like but pre texts for everyone who wrote was
involved in making it was like specifically looking at what
Reagan was trying to do in Nicaragua like that because yeah, yeah,

(05:36):
because he wasn't high and he was like, no, we
rock with them. Sandinistas are dangerous. We need to help
these fools. And they're like, okay, listen, bro, We've been
down this route before. You can't just be cutting checks
for these people like this. Uh. But Reagan's like, okay, word,
I hear you, But like what if I want to? Though,
you know what I'm saying. He's like, but but what
if I But what if I you know, own our point?

(06:01):
I want to So it was Bud McFarland's job to
make sure that we still have these fools back without
actually breaking this law. Right. So who does Bud McFarland
put in charge? Oh Ali Ali Oxen free right, puts
the big armie in charge. So in Bud tells Ali, Uh, listen,

(06:28):
this what we'll do. Hey, have the contrasts, set up
this offshore account right this that you know and and
and if you've seen a movie ever, you know what
the offshore account is. You know what I'm saying. Uh,
you know, uh for contributions that are made to them
that are direct deposits to the cause. Ali is like,

(06:49):
got you, let me tap in with some homies who
know some people down there. So he hits Bill Casey
again from the CIA. He's like, Yo, who you got
down there that can help us over there and set
this thing up. So they so Bill Casey can nexting
with the homie Adolfo Colero, right, who's big Nicaraguan businessman,
big baller. You know what I'm saying, shock caller, moving
in circles out there with the contrast and he so

(07:11):
Bill Casey lays out the play. He's like, look, small
amounts per month, but only small so that nobody notices it, right,
and when it's time to go, because if you go big,
that's how you get caught, right. And if we do
get caught, you know what I'm saying, the money is offshore, right,
so nobody will know that the US had anything to
do this at all. We don't want we can't have

(07:33):
our name on none of this, but we want you
to know that we got you. Right. Um, work sounds cool.
So the next obvious question is like, all right, well
where is this money coming from? If the bowl Nack
says that we can't fund this, right, that's cool, But
there's no problem with us letting the homies no that

(07:55):
our homies need some help. Yeah, yeah, we could just like,
well we get funded, but we can promise favors to
the King of Saudi Arabia or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, I
wonder where the name Saudi Arabia came from. How did
they get involved? Is this not the seventh country to
be involved in this story? Right? So you're right. So
they say, hey, you know, we've been We've been slaying

(08:16):
weapons to the Saudia's for a while. I think they
might owe us some favors. You know what I'm saying.
We've been selling And not only have we been selling
them blicky's, I mean we've been selling them that good
good I mean as Zaza, We've been giving them like
the realness. So they look, they say, hey, listen, man,
we been it takes planes out of the sky. Yes,
we've been shooting you to take plays out the sky

(08:38):
because off your shoulder. This look, we ain't been selling
you that gas like we've been giving you the zaza.
You know what I'm saying. So if that's the case, hey, man, like, look,
we're gonna need you to do us a favor real quick.
We've been giving you this good stuff. Hey, I need
you to sign slide of millie or two into this account,
just just here and there, just the millie, right, you
know what I'm saying. And this, this is this is

(08:58):
your way. This is your way of thanking us for
giving you that good good Right, that's all we're gonna
need from you, Saudi Like, all right, word, we got you.
Will slide him a million month to the off shore.
The problem is that's not enough, which is crazy that
that's not enough, right, So that's nuts. So now enter

(09:19):
another acronym, uh, the NSPG, which is the National Security
Planning Group, right, which they connect in June to talk
about contra because listen, they find a run out of
money and they're about to lose this and the only
people that know the money is going through the saudiast
is oh Ronnie Reagan, Oliver North, Bill Casey, and Budding Farland.

(09:43):
They're the only people that notice, and that's really who's
in this group, right, And they're like, okay, so we
need to figure out they need more money, right, how
do we help the contrast right, which we're not supposed
to be help in any way, but we slick, slick,
kind of low key under the table figure out how
to do this, right. Uh So then they say, if

(10:06):
anyone finds out that we're getting money from other countries
to pay for this, if we're like, well, that's not
tax cay perpayers money, we just got money from somebody else.
If they don't do it directly, then they're like, not
a's still impeachable, Like we can't just do that, right,
But they're like, I still don't know how to do this.
Cut to Oliver North right in the group text with

(10:27):
Colero and nossaudis to making sure that the money is
going through, the money is going through. Everybody's cool, right,
but again it's still not enough. But while everybody's sweating
about this, the funny part is like dudes like Weinberger,
who's like, listen, I don't understand what y'all problem is
this is perfectly legal. Yeah, like we're not. We have

(10:49):
not done anything wrong. Listen, we have no control over
their money, right, and and just because we connected the two,
that's not like just because we connected them. Yeah, I'm saying, like,
we haven't broken no laws here. Now. Vice President Bush
Senior he's in the room and he's like, listen, man,
what's I don't I don't understand what everybody worried about.

(11:09):
What's wrong with us doing a solid for the homies? Right,
as long as we don't get anything in return, we
all agreed, let's it's it's okay. Let them keep doing
what they're doing. And uh, if we get approval from
the A G. From the Eternal General and now everybody
knows this, then I don't understand what the problem is. Right.

(11:29):
Ronald Reagan like, okay, I get it, as long as
I know one thing. This is one time. I was like, Okay,
this is a good Ronald Reagan quote. He's like, this
works as long as everyone keeps stay fucking mouth shut.
I was like, great, if you don't say a goddamn thing.
I was like, okay, Ronnie, all right, you do you
show some humanity that I agree with. He's like, okay,

(11:49):
Ronnie does understand. You can try to convince me this
is legal, but just in case, I need nobody singing now.
As anyone who us know who's ever tried to put
together a lick or a mission or a scheme, the
more names involved, the more people involved, the more chances
for problems. Right. But but still we're still in a

(12:11):
situation where Oliver North is down there, you know, again,
since he's the middleman between the Southeast, you know, Collaro
and the Contrast. Right, the Contrasts are still just a
rebel group. They're not a five star purple hearted general.
You know what I'm saying, Like Oliver North. So Oliver
North down there kind of low key giving them game

(12:32):
here and there, right, just like yo, man, okay, listen,
So when we'll give you this, this is how you
set stuff up, right, you know what I'm saying, Like, well,
we'll figure it out, you know, and we'll try to
get you some more money. So while this is happening,
in October of night four, the Congress passed another Bowling
amendment that was like, okay, listen, you can't pay for

(12:55):
the Contrast, but you also can't indirectly fund the contrast, Man,
you're not allowed like we you know, you're not allowed
to loophole funding a foreign military organism. We see what
you're doing, letting you do this. Yes, we see what
you're doing. Bro, I mean the wind up letting them
do this. And they eventually but they're just like, Bro,

(13:16):
you can't just like, okay, listen, Doug again, we thought
maybe this was clear, but you can't directly or indirectly
fund them. So everybody who hears that that was funding
indirectly the conscience goes, Okay. So so what you're telling
me is we just have to come up with a

(13:36):
better system to fund the conscious, right, that's what you're saying. Like, no, no,
we're saying, don't do it. They're like, so do it better?
Got it right? So they're just like that means we
gotta turn up. So five Oliver North gets them, gets
the saudiast to double their monthly pledge. In between four

(13:56):
and six. It says that the Saudis gave them thirty
two million dollars to the contract. Ali knows it almost
thirty two million dollars, right, It's like and he's down there, Ali,
down there giving him all kinds of games, weapons, war strategy,
eleven million in guns, eleven million dollars eleven million worth

(14:18):
of guns, and they still significant number of guns. Like
that's not a tiny number of guns, it is. Yeah,
So and they still lose. That ship goes far back
that yes, a still losing. Yeah, listen what I mean.
One of the things that is we should probably hone
people in on on here if they haven't picked up

(14:40):
on it. The Contracts are not a very good rebel group.
They not they this should have been. Yes, they do
get better, like in terms of their competence at fighting,
Like near the end of the story, they're like they're
really bad at at being being an insurgent militia. It
just really not doing well. And they've taken on another
insurgent that over through another government who clearly got some

(15:02):
more experience on you. You know what I'm saying, So like, fam,
this should ain't working like and and it's like and
we're just dumping money into you. But again, as America
or Reagan and them is concerned, we have a vested
interest in y'all win in this war. And it's almost like,
look the purse, the purse can't have a bottom on
it because I need you all to witness, right, And
now cut to Oliver North. Right, uh Ali, Remember this

(15:28):
is all happening at the same time while we're still
trying to get them hostages out. It's the same time, right,
so we still ain't got no hostages. Jump saying we're
dumping money here. Now. Remember we're not giving the Southeast
these weapons, they're buying them, right. But so the agreement
was agreeing to sell to us, right. That was the

(15:48):
part that I always missed when I was like trying
to really understand the story growing up. I was like, well,
I understand where the money coming from. Was like, well, no,
they're buying It was like, they're paying for these weapons. Yeah.
The fucking arms industry is getting their cut of this.
Yeah yeah, yeah, everybody making money, you know what I'm saying.
So this is happening at the same time we still
ain't got our hostages. So in November November five, Israel

(16:12):
calls Oliver North to be like, okay, back to the beginning,
our last Hawk missiles didn't clear customs. Remember we told
you about that. It didn't clear customers list and it
got sent back, right, So that's when Oliver North calls
bud Vic Farland and tells Ronnie he's down for whatever. Right.

(16:33):
I Ran thinks Israel sabotaging this stuff, and they're like,
if you if you blame America, they're gonna kill the hostages. Right.
So we're in a situation that we got to figure
out how to take care of both of these situations.
There's not enough money here. We still ain't got our
hostages over there. Incomes January six, the diversion. Now, according

(16:55):
to Oliver North, he said, Goo Bonafar came up with it, right,
and uh, we can't know because it was like a
movie scene where you out in London. Y'all remember that meeting,
I said, when they talked in London. Right, they're out
in London, they're having a conversation. You gotta picture a
movie scene where the food Gabonafar pulls his food into

(17:17):
the into the into the bathroom, turns the water on. Right,
So nobody hear him talking, right, And according to Oliver
North in his story, according to his story, he's like, listen,
I got an idea how you could get an extra
millie for you? I got an idea and you can
make an extra million on it, right, but it's gonna

(17:40):
take a few steps. So he's like, okay, here's the plan,
stopped using Israel. Okay, sell directly to Iran and mark
up the price and take the rest and put it
in that offshore account that the Nicaraguan set up. And
if you won't to, won't you mark it up a

(18:03):
little bit more and you can pocket a little bit
like you put in your life in danger here. Anyway,
you're probably gonna go to jail over this ship, so
you might as well make a little money, you know
what I'm saying. And you know, boy scout Oliver North
is like, well, I can never do that, right, But
he doesn't do it, so he doesn't take the money right,

(18:24):
but he definitely is like huh it basically huh So
they need more money. We need our hostages. Iran thinks
Israel is the problem. So if we remove Israel, sell

(18:45):
to y'all directly, mark it up, take that extra money,
put it in an offshore account. That way, we get
our hostages and we pay for this war that we're
not allowed to pay for with money that actually don't exist,
because remember we're not supposed to be settling to them anyway,

(19:07):
so that in that case, if you if you work
it right, the money never touches our account, it never
comes into your bank account because the money are not
supposed to exist anyway. And again, like we said in
the beginning, brilliant, right, although quite a bit of that
money is going to wind up in a physical safe
that all of our north keeps. Like he winds up,

(19:30):
he's grabbing. There's points points of this where he's like
paying off people in our government and stuff, and he's
just like handing folks like bearer bonds he keeps in
his fucking safe and the white It's hilarious. It's the
most messiest, Like it's very messy because these people aren't
actually criminals. You know what I'm saying. All right? Uh

(20:25):
So Ali goes up, pulls up to the new National
um Security Advisor. His dude, John Poard Dexter, who I
thought was a made up name, right, That dude's got
a real last name, and he's really hard. Yeah, and
he was like one of them like true believer type dudes,
like first class and one like you know, Navy pH
d and like nukes as being he's extremely smart, yes,

(20:48):
and he had. He also he's he's described as being
extremely intelligent and having effectively no independent thought whatsoever. Like
he's this brilliant man who who's never had an idea
of his own, but he's unfailingly loyal. Yeah, he's just down,
true believer down. So January, Reagan finally uh signs the

(21:13):
finding right to drop the middleman, to be like, this
is what we're gonna do. I'm gonna sign the finding.
Remember he did the retroactive one, but which was already fraudulent.
Now he's about to sign one that's gonna say we're
gonna cut out the middleman. The problem is it never
goes to Congress, so Congress never saw it. Right, But

(21:35):
the diversion is now off to the races. Right. So
missiles that we sold to Iran for what should have
been three point seven million was ten million. That's where
we raised the price to from three point seven to
ten million, and we take the extra six million and
we fund them the constrass. Right, that was a plan.

(22:01):
It was working, except we still ain't got the hostages.
They still gave them up. Bill Casey is fucking dead, yes,
yeah or not. Casey Buckley is dead. Day you get
like one guy or something. At one point in this

(22:22):
like almost no movement at all, like that, they're they're
handing over literal tons of weaponry and they're trying to
get six dudes. Now, look, I'll tell you right now,
if I've got six guys and you give me five
hundred tons of anti air and anti armor weaponry, I'm
gonna give you those six guys because I'm an honest man. Um.
But no, hisipal is just like, you know what, Now,

(22:43):
see how long we can run it ahead, See how
long we can run it. And at the end of
the day, it's like, I don't blame them if y'all
keep sending them. They're like, why would I stop? It
seems like the US is just a gun paniata right now?
Why not? Like there's a downside? And what's crazy is
in this whole story, the real is the only real

(23:04):
ones in this story so far as has blood. Because
they was like, look, we'll do it if you give
us weapons. And I'm like, wait, so you'll still give
us weapons even if we don't do our partners Iran?
Yeah is Iran. They're like, wait, you'll still give us
weapons if we don't give you what you want, I mean,
we'll ship like you saying like I don't know. I

(23:25):
mean that it's it's cool, right So anyway, Uh So
Ronnie hits uh blud McFarland back and he's like, listen, dog,
I don't sucked up. I need some help here, right.
So in May eight six they land in Tehran, right, uh,
with a couple of spare parts of a hawk missile,

(23:47):
a kosher cake for some reason, and a Bible as
a chord in the Ronald Reagan story, and a chord
in a Bible with a message from Ronald Reagan. Now,
why in the world Ronald Reagan would think this was
a good gesture is beyond me. But they were there
to negotiate the terms of release, right, So basically it

(24:11):
was like, okay, we're moving out Gabana far. This is
us talking like, let's talk face to face, all right,
here's a situation, and as a sign of good faith,
here's this. Here's this Jewish thing that I'm giving y'all right,
at which I still don't understand why he thought that
was a good idea unless it's a dig towards Israel.

(24:31):
It just doesn't make sense to me. And a Bible.
I don't get it. The point is, according to them,
that's what they say. Now. Oliver North and Hissary story
is it wasn't no Bible. And the cake was something
that he bought in Tel Aviv, right, which is why
it was culture. Uh. But either way, they was in
this meeting. They brought Blood back from from retirement because

(24:56):
remember Bud was like, Dog, I'm out man, I don't
want none of this. Bud came back to because Ronald
asked him, and they was in this situation, and Ali
was like, Okay, here's the move. That's what we're gonna say.
We're gonna negotiate the terms is what it is. We're
here directly. You know, you ain't got worried about Bonafar,
who has cash, plenty of checks, right, and and it's
clearly in on the thing, right. So we're having a

(25:18):
talk and then Bud flies off the handle, Blood throws
the whole thing up. He was like the Iranian. The
Iranians offered two hostages. It was like, okay, well we'll
slide y'all two hostages. Bud was like, hey, hoey, it's

(25:41):
everything or nothing. Nah, fam, we didn't come up here
for two for two. We came up here for everybody, right,
and he was like look, look and and he leaning
over and he leaning over to uh Ali and them,
and he's like, listen, Doc, you gotta do this with
these foods because they're not gonna They're not down, they're

(26:01):
not going to give us anything. He was like, I
knew they wasn't gonna do this because listen when we
flew in here, they didn't even meet us for this meeting.
Like they wasn't day to say no cars. We had
to straight like uber to this ship like they ain't
got no we ain't got no hotel. We gotta figure
this out. They're not really here for us. A matter
of fact. Uh they had us waiting for two days.

(26:24):
He was like, fool, we had this meeting. We've just
been sitting here for two days waiting for these foods
to come. You don't understand. You ain't gonna hustle in you.
He was like, they hustling us, fam nah everybody or nothing.
That was Bud's thinking, because you remember Buds Gangster. Yeah right,
so uh so he's like, um, all right, well, either

(26:52):
we could do this, try to figure this out, you know,
all or nothing, and while they're saying all or nothing,
Irandon already unloaded the plane, so they already got the weapons,
so they they already got the parts, so they don't
even worried about anything. You talk about anything anyway, We
got all these parts, right, which meant that they paid
for it. So they was like, we're gonna get you.
We'll we'll pay for the money, but we're still not

(27:13):
gonna give your hostages. And we already got the pieces anyway.
So so so the negotiation is done. So yeah, I mean,
y'all want what y'all want to do. Y'all want, y'all
gonna head back home, right, So he goes head back home.
They all on the plane. So Oliver North calls back
home and he tells and uh and he's and he's

(27:33):
and and oh, I forgot this is an important part
about this. Bud McFarland don't know about the diversion. Bud
don't even know about the raising the price to to
send it to to Iran like or to send it
to uh Nicaraga. He don't even know. Because again the
c i A like, they're not they don't like the
NSC right. All these organizations are greedy they all want

(27:54):
to be like running shipped through themselves, so like everybody's
compartmentalizing information and stuff. Yeah. Head, so they on the plane. So,
uh they on the plane right now, on their way
back home, and they're like damn dude, like Ali, like,
damn man, that's dang. It didn't work again. But at
least we got the dough for the for the contrast.

(28:14):
He just slips, or at least we got the doll
for the contrast, right, and but it's like, yeah, wait,
what we got to what now? So he's like, oh,
he just dry snitched on himself. So now he's like, uh, well,
I guess I guess I guess that's what we're doing.
So he's like, well, tell the President that the negotiation failed, right,

(28:41):
I guess that's it. So flashback to eighty six. We're
still trying to deal with Nicaragua. Right. So finally August six,
Reagan finally convinces the Congress to pass to Chill on
the Bowling Act. Right, so there's a hundred million dollars
appropriation bill. Now keep in mind, we been paying these
foods for three years, Joe said, but now you didn't.

(29:04):
Finally got the Congress to agree to a hundred million
dollars appropriation bill. The Republican Republican just like back then,
just like now, are like, yo, let's ride. The Democrats
are like okay, cool, wait, but we have so many questions,
like we're just you're just gonna cut a check for
these people, Like what, okay, can we can we discuss
this a little bit? Didn't answer. This man named Lee

(29:25):
Hamilton's right, he's from the Intelligence Committee in the Congress,
And he asked Oliver North and them like, okay, listen, bro,
we've been We've been discussing this ship for a while.
I need you to keep it a whole century with me,
keep it a buck with me, bro a hundred keep
it real. You've been down there with the contrasts already.
Have you been given them military advice this whole time? Son? Right?

(29:55):
And it's like, listen, we don't look the laws already passed. Okay,
it's already fast, bro. And he's a lot of this
is happening in d C. Like he's meeting with their
reps and handing them fucking bags of cash that he
takes out of a safe in the fucking headquarters of
the US government. It's fucking it's so funny. Oh, it's

(30:17):
it's such just like crime stuff. Like it's not like
they just they did a thing and then found out after,
oh my god, we violated some sort of congression Like no, no, dude,
you're you're shoving bearer bonds into a sack to hand
him to a dude who you are now telling how
to kill people like it is the war's equivalent of
Shaggy's classic song it wasn't me. That's right, that's right there,

(30:40):
you got me in a shower, it wasn't me, Like
you just cut just picture it where he uh, what's
that fucking service? You can pay famous people who are
kind of on the down slide to record videos for you?
What is that? Uh? Is all the north On cameo?
We could get him to do that. It would be
pretty Yes, you just oh man, it's so funny. Yeah,

(31:06):
it's just it's totally a movie. It's like when you
ask when you ask him, hey, have you been doing
this already? You just cut to the flashbacks of him
doing all this ship and him being like, Okay, I
know this is the great place you want to be.
I know what y'all know. If you're the one doing
the crimes. It's better for me to know how much
everybody else knows. And I know y'all don't know ship, right,

(31:30):
So you need to craft the answer to say, I'm
gonna only give you an answer that confirms what I
know you already know, and only as much as I know.
So his answer quote, Well, I'm a military man, and
when I sit down with other military men, it's inconceivable

(31:51):
that we won't talk about military things. So even if
I thought I could give them good advice, you and
I both know we can't run this war from Washington, okay.
Unquote okay some text, Uh yeah, we're actually running this

(32:12):
war from Washington. Yeah. And they're literally like giving them
stuff like, hey, we need you guys to do an offensive.
Now you've got to like try to take this area,
this these camps and stuff back because we need to
be able to like put some victors, some some dubs
on the board. Like it's very direct coordination. He's literally
coordinating this war. And then they asked him something like, hey,
uh look, just just keep it real. Have y'all been

(32:40):
raising money for the Constress? He was like nah, uh nah,
what what wait? Like raising money. Uh nah, hey, hey,
but hey, hey yo, hey, we weren't. No, we haven't

(33:03):
raising money, wine Burger, do do you know? Vid? No,
we haven't raising no money. That's cool, right, And the
Congress is like, well, I guess that covers it. So
uh he said no, So I mean he said he didn't.
So yeah, I guess you want to cut the check? Everybody?
Everybody good, every good? We cut the check. Right, we

(33:25):
did our work, We did our job. We're supposed to
ask he said, no, I don't know to tell you. Right,
the rest of just paperwork seems easy. M hm. Right
now we are now back at October of right before
the money was supposed to get cleared. Right before this,

(33:47):
a hunted Milly was supposed to get clear. Jean from
Wisconsin had asked, getting shot out of the sky, Oh
Jean got dammit, Geen? Fuck did all of Jean? What
do you do? And your name is Gene and you're
from Wisconsin. What are you doing in Nicara doing? Come on?

(34:10):
Hassing foss is this ship? Get get out of here?
So Bill Casey like, look, burned the books, now I'll
get out. Now, we got to get out. Now we
coat we burnt blow yeah, start throwing some ship in
the furnace. Yes, look, everybody shredding. It is not going

(34:34):
to be Oliver North player. Everybody, you ain't gotta go home.
You gotta get the hell out of here. Dog right,
time to go, Time to go, down to go, everybody,
time to go. Now, this him near burnt the White
House down behind them. Yes, this is the This is
the famous ship that I remember being a very small

(34:54):
child and seeing on television. Right and and don't that
what's her name? Uh? President Biden just talked about UH
officers getting reparations over this ship, right is? He says, says,
everybody gotta go home. We need no evidence. And by
I mean no evidence, I mean we are bulldozing these buildings,

(35:16):
digging a big hole, throwing everything in the pill everything
in the old nigga, the chairs, the printer, the desks,
the water cooler, everything going this whole burn the ship
on fire, and the man the jungles in Nicaragua, just
burn the ship, burn it off like burn everything, right,

(35:41):
So why everything getting burned? Gene from Wisconsin had asked,
is doing an interview with Mike Wallace on sixty minutes? Awesome?
Good call, Jean get your money, Jean. I have so
much respect for Gene, for Gene from Wisconsin, because Jene,
it was like, you're gonna pay me to do what?

(36:02):
To fly? To fly where? Word? Oh oh, y'all nothing okay?
And you just you guys, you guys just said you
don't know. Man, You just said exactly, I don't know
what kind of cards do you think you had left
over me here? Because when worst came to worst, when
we was down, when ship hit the fan, do you

(36:23):
understand what I'm saying? You was not down? Okay? Cool,
I'm gonna go get my money. Then you know what
I say. I look, Gene, Gene and the Iranians are
the realist people in this story. Yeah. Ja was like,
all right, so well now that's bullshit. This is what
they had me do. My man was on sixty minutes
telling this old story. So then, oh man, so now

(36:49):
but although in October of eighteen eight or nine eight six,
because the bolden Act thing was repealed, they really now
we don't need no diversion, so we can stop, we
can stop like trying to hide it out all this stuff. Right,
But uh, as long as like Reagan said, everybody keeps
stay mouth shut. However, as we all know, no one

(37:13):
ever keeps their mouth shut. Now, then in the history
of keeping your mouth shut, no one ever keeps stay
mouth shut. We did an episode on her politics about like,
like how many years you gotta throw somebody before they
start snitching? You know, And I don't care how hard
of a gangster they are, Like year five years, that's
a vacation. You have somebody hold you know, hold your money,

(37:35):
you know what I'm saying. Like holiday was cool, Like
as long as you're good, you got enough people in
the sin, you could do a year, you could do
two years. Start talking about ten years, you start talking
about twenty five years. They people start sounding like Mariah
carry out this mouth like you become you become Rihanna,
like food starts singing when you throw enough time on him. Right.

(37:56):
And also, if you're a journalist, oh there's some pulletzer
prise ship, Like you're gonna change your life forever you
break this story. So in November of a newspaper in
Lebanon called Al Shara drops the expose and fam day

(38:21):
name names everybody involved, Day name names dead, fool Day
lit this thing up. Now all of America is like, Uh,
what the hell, White House, y'all got something to say?
The White House is like, oh, uh what this is

(38:44):
so weird. I don't what are you talking about? I
don't know what she's talking about. That's crazy, right, it's crazy, right,
she was saying. You see all that that they said,
it's crazy, right, I don't know, right, So you can
kind of play it off. But again, everyone snitches, and

(39:09):
not only does everyone snitch when you have somebody like
a character like a Ronald Reagan, right, which is what
you're watching play out in a lot of ways, just
in a very uncouth way with Donald Trump, in the
sense that if a person feels like they too smooth
to get caught, they'll start dry snitching on themselves. Then

(39:29):
they don't listen to That's That's the one thing about
learned about a narcissist. A narcissist will always reveal their play,
always because they need you to stroke their ego, right,
They need you, they need you to be impressed about
their prowess. So and they're gonna go off script because

(39:51):
they believe they're invincible always in the same way that
Trump snitched on itself about about the box of clas
to find documents that was laid out on the floor
when he was like, man, they spread it out there,
they spread all that ship out on the floor, Like
I was a slob. I kept all my documents in

(40:11):
a nice folder. Oh, we're the documents that you ain't
supposed to have, the ones that you said that you
already gave back Joe till. I'm like, fam, you just
you just dry snitched, Like, oh so you do got
the documents right, right, So we're gonna watch President uh
Reagan continue to try to try to dance right now,

(41:16):
the first person to actually snitch is the weirdo Don Reagan, right, um,
Because again, if you're in a situation like this, like
you have to, like anybody in this situation, who do
you think everybody's gonna try to protect? I mean the boss? Right,
You're gone. Yeah, that's the way that works, especially like

(41:39):
Ronald is he's gotten reelected by the point that this breaks,
but he's also kind of losing his ship, right Like
he's he's seriously like Nancy is kind of running things
for a large chunk of this. Yeah. Yeah, so Nancy's
running up. He's he's starting to lose his marbles. But
he's still to don't He's still to boss. And if

(42:00):
you know that, you start what you should do is
start calculating where on the totem pole you are, because
the lower you are, the most likely you're gonna get
thrown to the wolves. Right, So, if you got any sense,
you like, I need to set this shut up for
myself because you're not gonna look out for me. You'll
remember Jeane Hawson fast from Wisconsin. You're not gonna look

(42:20):
out for me, you know what I'm saying. So, uh,
you you should know what this situation right. Um, but
now this now that's now this snitch Don Reagan, who
nobody knows it's a snitch at the time. They call
Washington Post. Um, they say, he say the President didn't
have nothing to do with it. He was trying to like,

(42:42):
which is which is quite a calculation for him. He's like,
all right, let me not I'm a snitch, but not
on the big Boss, because I don't want that to
come back and bite me in the ass later. So
he snitches and the person he throws under the bus
is Bud McFarlane. Yeah, and he says that man never

(43:03):
told the president what he was doing. Of course that's
a lie president, of course, And and and there's yeah, the
President definitely knew. There are a bunch of shady things
where like McFarland will say, well, no, I got his
specific approval before I did this thing, and it'll be like, well,
when did you do that? Well, I called him and
he's like, well, there's not a record of this phone call.
And there's now there's other records of Reagan knowing about it,
Like yeah, you know, that doesn't mean on the day

(43:25):
to day. Just to make the point, McFarland absolutely lies,
of course what Reagan knew, but Reagan also knew, although
it is possible that the Alzheimer's caused him to lose
significant pieces of it. Absolutely, And it's like and when
you run in a lick like this, and especially like
Bud McFarland and Ronald Reagan, like they're actually like buddies,

(43:45):
you know what I'm saying. So it's very possible that
like he is just like calling on a fly, like oh,
by the way, they're just hanging out or something. It's like,
by the way, but it was during a thing. Yeah, yeah,
I gotta send six million to yeah to Iron You cool, Okay,
you know what I'm saying, like you dialing around like
the what specifically did the president? No, well that's a
harder question to answer. But did did the president know

(44:07):
and approve of the plan? Yes? Absolutely? Yeah yeah so
so uh so the hope was that, like listen, tell this,
tell this, tell this cover story. Ed Meee was the
Attorney General at the time, and he's like, listen, Bud,
Bud retired, right, So Budd retired. He's not gonna lose

(44:27):
his job. If we put everything on Bud, Bud knows everything,
We're we're cool, right, like, then then that way we
can get out of it. That's the story, Ronnie. That's
the story, is like Budd did the thing. Here's the
situation point. Dexter hollazat at Bud and he says, yo,
if you tell Donna back off, like Don out here

(44:48):
trying to like drag me. I remember I said later
on that Don tells this story to the press that
Budd is cheating on his wife, just like just a
dick hole, right, So Bud, it's like, okay, I'll take
some of this seat, but fuck Don Reagan, like you
know what I'm saying, Like you're not gonna do this
to me like this, He's like, okay, cool, just protect
the president. Now, reaganga and slaughtered. This is this is

(45:11):
the least popular he ever is. He kinds of has
a breakdown around this point. Nancy is running the show.
He's basically hiding and watching like old movies on television.
No one can reach him. Um, they actually there is
a period of time where they consider, um, they actually
like bringing an outside guy to secretly analyze Reagan whether

(45:33):
or not they need to do a twenty fifth Amendment
and like pull his ass over there because he was
losing it, which is how he how he dipped dipped
out of impeachment. Yeah. I was like, well, don't be cool. Um,
so he getting slaughtered and guess what, dim hostages is
still in Iran, which is still funny to me. It's

(45:57):
not funny because that's their life. But it's like all
this ship and you still ain't got the hostages. Uh.
But he says he has to make some sort of statement. Now,
if you are Reagan again, your pride is involved here? Right.
If the story is they're doing all this ship up
under my nose and I don't know it, then I
look like a punk. You know what I'm saying, So, like,
I don't know how cool I am with this point,

(46:19):
Dexter says, Listen, he tells the press. Uh, listen, it
was I know everybody was saying this was about arms
for hostages, and it was not FAM. This was always
about being good with Iran because everybody know they're crazy
over there, so we needed to make sure that we
was good over there. We was tapped in. Everything was cool,

(46:39):
and it all happened in eight six. Anything before that, Yo,
that was Israel like it Remember that was the cover
the whole time, running through Israel. So that when you can,
so you can tell your people if it do come
out like, oh, I don't know, FAM, that was Israel.
Like whatever they did with them that I don't know.
You could check the ledgers. We would sell and them

(47:00):
stuff because that's what we do. We've been selling them
stuff for years. Like I don't understand the problem, right, uh,
but everybody knows. Look, man, somebody's got a role. Don
Reagan's Like, listen, man, head gotta roll. This story ain't
gonna hold up. People gonna figure this out. And as
long as that head ain't Reagan, we're gonna be cool. Right. So,

(47:22):
h Reagan goes with the story, right, but he got
to go talk to Congress right now, This is where
it gets super funny. Right. So now we're in November twelve,
this is six and Reagan gotta talk to talk to Congress. Right,
We're talking Bob Dole, We're talking bit Cheney, right, all
these like big, big like Reagan stands that ended up

(47:47):
ruining and most of our childhood as they became part
of the leadership of our government. Right. Uh So the
Congress is like, okay, fam, when did this start? Uh? Uh? Well,
I think it started in November five, but we don't
do no transfers to the heaters until six. Um. Yeah,

(48:10):
I mean that's a total lie, right uh And the
Reagan says, Yo, yeah, this was like a clandestine thing
because we don't negotiate with people. That ship is a lie.
He out here trying to be a cowboy, like you
think you really y'all really think y'all really think I'm
that much of a punk. Then I'm gonna be out
here negotiating with these terrorists. That's a lie. Fam. I
don't be negotiating with no terrorists. That's not what I did.

(48:32):
I had this clandestine ship and and and point dexter
in them is like, NIGGD. If you don't shut the
funk up, you're not supposed to know what happened. That
was the story. The storyline is, you don't know what happened.
He's like, nah, man, I let them make sure they
we don't negotiate with terrorists. Like okay, fam, oh lord,
here we go. So after all this, Shultz meets with

(48:53):
everybody and he's like, George Schultz is like, Fam, I
tried to tell y'all this ship wasn't gonna work. I
tried to tell y'all this what's gonna happen, right, And
Don is like, look, if everybody stick to the script,
it's gonna be cool, right Uh. But Shultz is like, listen,
this math ain't mathing. Everybody gonna figure this out. This

(49:15):
is Watergate all over again. Right, it's not gonna work.
It's I'm trying to tell y'all Reagan losing his marbles, right,
don't let this man talk. But I'm telling you. Shoult
is like, fam, who were gonna throw under the bus
because they gonna figure this ship out? Like, people are
not stupid. This story don't make sense. The story we're

(49:36):
telling them don't make sense, and the numbers are obvious. Right,
this is Watergate all over again. So then now it's
like Reagan again with his like I'm a superhero, was like, okay, listen,
let me go ahead and talk to the nation. When
now in this situation, anybody who got any sort of
like street you know, any sort of like street wisdom,

(49:57):
would know that you are now in a posit and
where you are going to look people in the face
and lie to him. So you this was wrong. This
is not the move, fam, because now you officially lied
to our face. Right before it was confusing, before it
was just uh, just you know, ambiguous. Now you've been
a lot to us, right, So he was like, listen,

(50:22):
what they're saying about me ain't true. I made no
concessions and we didn't get him no gun guns America. Like, Fam,
he's gonna lie to us like that, like this is
so obvious what you did. And he like, I'm trying
to tell y'all, this ain't one we did. Right that
same day, point Dexter getting grilled, right, and he like, listen, dog,

(50:45):
we ain't getting more weapons. Okay, maybe a few weapons
because a couple of weapons, a couple right, and then
Reagan on November ninety doubling down, and reporter says, Yo,
then this is the part that like went viral if
their version of viral. Right, one of the reporter it
was like, Yo, you say you ain't trade no weapons

(51:08):
for hostages, but um, every time one of them hostages
kind of came home, the records show a major shipment
of guns. Uh, what's that about. That's kind of weird.
It's like when a hostage lands weapons leave. That kind

(51:31):
of seemed like, I mean, I'm just reading the ledger,
it kind of seemed like you was giving weapons for hostages, right,
that kind of looked like that and breaking in them. Like, look, dude,
ship weapons all the time. If it happens at the

(51:53):
same day, I mean, I don't tell you, fami, it
just kind of happened at the same time, right. Uh.
And it's just your lie getting getting worse and worse
and getting paper thin. Somebody's gonna figure this ship out.
Somebody gonna have to take this fall because the script
ain't working and the scripts only kind of true, right,
and Reagan keep talking too much the more you talk,

(52:16):
because he feeling like you know, you know, when you
lying and people figuring out your lie, yo, yo, yo yo,
your instinct is to double down. But once you start
doubling down, like I said, you start dry snitching. It's
getting worse and worse and worse. And your story is
not adding up. This It don't make sense. This is
what's playing off all over the news. If Twitter was
around on this time, this would be just a great

(52:37):
time in Twitter. The sit not making sense right November twenty,
Shultz is telling him, like, listen, bro, just come clean right,
just this. They're gonna figure it out. And if they
figure it out, it's worse, right, And Reagan does text

(52:58):
buck White Boys stuff, and he says, uh, listen, I
didn't mean this is great again textbook. Why didn't mean
to sell weapons for hostages? So if I didn't mean
to do it, I didn't do it. Yeah, my my

(53:20):
heart tells me I didn't do it. But literally a
thing he says, yes, So there's just this intention say
we didn't do this, but all the evidence says we did.
So who's to say what happened? Well that's my Reagan?
Yes we so. Uh. The next day they like, look,
this is we're gonna do. We're gonna lunch an internal investigation,

(53:42):
right and mess like, look, let's launch an internal investigation.
Let's figure out what's going on. Let's holler at the
National Secretary Advisor, right, point Dexter and figure out these findings. Right,
So point Dexter knows exactly what he gonna find out
because he gonna find out that the papers that were
supposed to be turned in and finding was never turned

(54:03):
in and one of them was backlogged. So basically, when
he finds them papers which we all know exist, is
going to prove that the president knew everything. Right now,
guess who else knows all this? Oliver mop and North Yep,
he sure does. He know all this and got all
the paper when everything comes into He's got it all.

(54:28):
And if this fool got at all, there's a there's
papers for everything. So he's like, well, what is the
most logical thing to do right now? Probably the same
thing you did in Nicaragua. You just gotta get rid
of the evidence, right first, make a copy so I

(54:49):
can have my own. You need to get rid of everything.
This is These are serious felonies, y'all. Like, let's let's
not let's Okay, I mean they can't shred government documents
to cover up war crimes like this. This is terrible, right,

(55:10):
So he calls his assistant like a dumbass. So he
caused his assistant to go do it right, which again
crime number one, one on one. You can't just send somebody,
even I don't care how close this person is. You
can't send somebody else to come do this. You need
to make sure this ship is done correctly, right, because
if anything is missed, everybody going to jail. So they

(55:36):
go about and they shred fifteen months of correspondence, right,
fifteen months and one and missed Robert. They missed one document. Well,
that's pretty good, and that one document prove the whole
thing of all the documents that they shredded. They did

(55:59):
it shred. Follow me, follow me. The one document they
did it shred was a memo entitled the diversion Memo. Yeah,
the crime note how to crime, How we're going to
break the law repeatedly. Amazing, guys, what we're going to
do that we're trying to cover up? Memo? You get

(56:20):
so lazy when the whole apparatus of government is on
your side, Like that's that's really what this is. It's
the same thing you see from all these like right
wing groups being like, here's our meeting chat where we're
going to overthrow the government. Meanwhile, kids who are like,
I don't know, burning a police car with nobody inside.
It's been like years planning and like the rest of
their lives, frightened that the laws behind them and burn

(56:44):
all of their clothing, never see each other again. Meanwhile,
the guys trying to overthrow the entire government, like, let's
just do a signal loop for that, and I'll loopen
my guy with the Trump White House and we'll just
all get in the same group and figure out how
we're gonna kill all those things. All good, bro, Literally
a memo called the Diversion. Now you nerds like you

(57:05):
named it the crime? What the hell is wrong with y'all?
You know, saying so, so that's the one that got out,
because that's the one they missed. Now by this point,
Ed Meets knows everything you know. Reagan is still you know,
stiff lift. I don't know what's going on. I do
nothing wrong. Literally, the document shows that you absolutely did right.

(57:29):
The NSC has got all kind of private memos right, Uh,
they gotta blame somebody. Point dexter Finder resigned. Oliver North
is the only person they can blame because it all
came out of his office. Now, the next thing that
happens is the independent investigation from Lauren Walsh. Now this

(57:51):
be Now what happens, uh that what plays out in
public is the part that a lot of us are
familiar with. It's when a special investigator, this is their
version of Robert Mueller, right comes on the scene and
comes in. Just picture the slow motion and this dude's retired,
like just the nerd, retired at home. I'm tired of

(58:12):
doing this lawyer thing. They sent him this situation and
he's like, oh ship, damn God, damn, Okay, yeah, I'll
investigate it. He do the investigation. Foods come on TV
and what was what was televised? Which is so crazy,
it's like just it's almost like the beginnings of how

(58:34):
we see politics. Now. What was what was what was
televised was the Oliver North trials, and that man ended
up being on the cover of Time magazine as one
of the greatest patriots. Because Oliver North figured out how
to play the game. He was like, Okay, listen, I'm
gonna go to jail for this ship. I'm gonna go
to jail as a patriot. And he became this like

(58:56):
right wing superstar. Oh yeah, No, I watched his fucking
TV show all the time when I was a kid.
He got a TV show with Oliver North. I think
he's still on the air Oliver North bro for running
this thing. But basically he became the fall guy now
years later, right, you go after so after President Reagan

(59:18):
was President George Bush Sr. And there had to be
an agreement that like, and you're not gonna like, You're
not gonna impeach me later? Right, He's like, Fam, why
in the hell would I impeach you later? Of course
I'm not gonna because if I impeach you, Nigga, I'm
going to jail because I was in the room the
whole time. Fam, So why would I not do that?
But a trial did happen where Reagan Ronald Reagan, believe

(59:43):
it or not, This is the part that like surprised me.
Ronald Reagan was put on trial for this. It's just
he was so far into his Alzheimer's at the time
that he was able to be like, well, I don't recall, well,
I don't recall he became the quote that all of
us love, which is not to my recollection? Did you

(01:00:03):
up not to my recollection? Would you there? I remember,
not to my recollection. So President Reagan actually got it.
Oh what, No one except for Oliver North I saw
any real time? Yea, And yeah, all of our and
Earth's war stories ran for fifteen years. Yeah, and that

(01:00:27):
my friend and all them Fox News dollars, and that,
my friend is the Iran Constra scandal. What a what
a great story. It really is a great story. I'm
proud to be in American right now. And as you
guys will find out in the book endings of these
series that there was other ways that Nikkarabua thanked us.

(01:00:50):
They did, they showed their gratitude in a way that
uh was was deeply felt in the United States. And
we will be getting into that, or have been getting
into that, or are you're you'll hear that too. It's
all coming out, it's all, it's all, it's all going
to be in your ears, this this whole week. Yeah, beautiful.
In this stage of of recording, we actually don't know

(01:01:11):
which order these episodes are coming out we're working it out, yes,
but but anyway, so that's it. I ran contra uh so,
who's the bastard? Uh n s e c I A
Ronald Reaga. I don't know at the point. All the
North is my favorite guy in it, just because he's
such like he's such a fucking criminal and such a
bad criminal, and it's really funny how bad he is

(01:01:33):
it doing crime. It really is. Yeah, I gotta give
my vote to Ali. Yeah, and then I'm like, but
then I'm like, again, real ones, my real ones in
this story. I still Bona farre still my favorite. Oh yeah, Now,
Gabonafar is the actual, like coolest dude. He's the coolest
dude in here. He's an absolute war criminal, but he

(01:01:55):
is the coolest dude in his story of the war criminals.
He's he's just such a little scamp. It's like, you're
gonna just rob him again, aren't you, buddy? Yeah you did.
You fucked him over again again. Bro, They're never gonna
catch on and just and just he saw it, like
he just disappears from the record. I don't know, I
have no idea. Last thing they talked about him and

(01:02:17):
all the records was he cast a million dollar check.
Ain't seen him a sin he probably and some other
records I couldn't find. No where are they now? Is
Wi Goo Bonafar? Yeah? Why would you know? You? You
you go right off into the sunset with all of
the money that you made. Yeah, and Gene from Wisconsin's
head asked, I don't know where he is either, but

(01:02:40):
I still love the fact that that man did a
sixty minutes. We could probably we could probably find that way, Gene.
I I wish you the very best of luck, gen Um.
Just stay the funk away from Nicaragua. Just don't don't
be flying no weapons in Nicara. Yeah, we're good, We're good.
You fl me some weapons, Gene. Dude, I would love
to go visit. Gene. Just be like, yo, just tell

(01:03:02):
tell me some stories, bro, Like tell you what with
Like how many missions did you run? Like they don't
say that, you know what I'm saying, Like did you
ever get a chance to actually kick it in Nicara?
They're not gonna they're not gonna say that telling nobody
that hilarious. Yeah, well that's about it. Robert Evans behind
the Bastards pod I right, Okay, After the revolution, you

(01:03:27):
can find it on a K press. You can find
it on a K press. That's right, Sophie. You know
what else you can find is my book everywhere else? Uh,
it's it's available everywhere else. So just google After the
Revolution Robert Evans and buy the book from wherever Amazon,
local bookstore, independent bookstore, a K press, I don't care. Yeah,

(01:03:48):
and Mark Margaret Kildoy also has a book, uh cut
that's it. Depending on when this is, it's either before
or after it drops, which is on September. And it's
also from from a K press and uh, if you
preorder it, you can get a nice little book sleeve

(01:04:08):
cover artwork situation and it's called we Won't be here Tomorrow.
That's my plug is for Robert and Margaret's books. That
is a great plug, thank you. Sophie has a book too,
called Terraform. It's a poetry and short story. There's also
a cold brew called Terraform cold Brew. If you're into

(01:04:28):
coffee stuff. It's delicious. I put it on the screen
as if y'all can see it. But the point is
it's very delicious. You can order that Terraform cold brew
dot com and uh by props by Props. Props book
is amazing. I love Props book and it's also just
like a very beautiful beautiful cover cover and just like
I love I love it. I have as signed copy, Brack,

(01:04:50):
Yes you do. Um who else has a book? Let's think? Uh?
No one, those are the only books ever written. No,
I'm just I'm thinking of what's displayed on my book. Oh,
Jake Hanrahan has has a book too. You could get
Jake Hanrahand's book. It's called Gargoyle. Yeah that's it, right, yep,

(01:05:12):
by him? All right, love good. The bastards

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