Part One: Mike Adams: The Deadliest Fake News Icon You've Never Heard Of

In Episode 69, Robert is joined by Dan and Jordan from Knowledge Fight Podcast to discuss how Mike Adams got rich spreading death and paranoia online.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hmm, what's spreading dangerous misinformation my empire of fake news websites.
I'm Robert Evans, host Behind the Bastards with another really
bad introduction. Sophie is not here to be disappointed in me,
so the disappointment will have to flow from my guests
for today, which are of course Dan and Jordan from

(00:22):
the podcast Knowledge five. Thanks for having us, man, it
is a real honor to be your first ever repeat guest. Uh,
this is a real treat. I don't I don't think
that's true. Doesn't have regular the show. Dan doesn't listen
to the show. I'm sorry, Robert, he's he's been lying
to you this entire time. That was me trying to

(00:43):
come out of the gate with a hot bit and
it just fell flast. Well. I listened to y'all show constantly.
It's one of my regular pieces of Jim listening. You
do a show about Alex Jones and his his entire
world of of madness. Uh, and and Jones himself is
such a typhoon of nonsense that he provides you with

(01:04):
enough content for what five to seven hours a week
of podcasts at least it's too much. Whatever it ends up, Yeah,
it's a he's It's it's really crazy. You know, I've
been doing the show for like two years, and I'm
still surprised from time to time. It's a he's nuts.
Somebody showed us that we had done three hundred episodes
and we had no idea. That's no sane amount of content.

(01:27):
That was like six months ago like that. We have
no idea you blazed past that number at this point again, um, well,
today we're talking about someone who is very much in
the orbit of Alex Jones, although at this point it
might be fair to say that Jones is more orbiting
around him, or maybe they're one of those situations where
I think you both know more about astro faces than
I do. But aren't there situations where you have like

(01:48):
two sons in the solar system and it it's terrible
for everything? Do you mean a binary star system? There
we go, Thank you, Star trek Man. I know no
further things than that it's called a binary star system.
I was just bluffing so hard it was great. George
also doesn't know who you're about to talk about. Intentionally
withheld that information from It's our gig man. I'm not

(02:09):
supposed to know what's going on? Oh beautiful, beautiful, Well,
our audience will not know this person, you will know them. Well,
we are talking today about Mike Adams was Now that's
what the response he deserves. UM. So I'm gonna start

(02:29):
with a lead in from something you guys already know
a little bit about, but is something I think we'll
we'll draw the audience in before we started, back at
the beginning of Mike's career. So, if you'll indulge me
in this um. On February eighteen, roughly two thirty pm,
a Nazi piece of ship walked into the Marjorie Stoneman
Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, and started shooting. He

(02:49):
left seventeen people dead in his wake, along with dozens
upon dozens of traumatized students who would deal with the
mental scars and survivors guilt for the rest of their lives.
Some of those children went on to become gun control
at gets. One of the most prominent of this group
is a young man named David Hogg. Now, when someone
chooses to enter a political debate like the gun control debate,
they opened themselves up to argument into their views being questioned,

(03:11):
but certain segments of the armed right. We're not content
with just disagreeing with David Hogg. A concerted effort began
to turn him into a boogeyman, a fascist monster, and
potentially a government deep cover agent. Less than a month
after the Parkland shooting, a website called Hogwatch went live.
Are you guys aware of Hogwatch? All to Yeah, I
bet you've forgotten, but I'm I was aware of that

(03:31):
for sure. I know it exists, but I refuse to
believe it is anything other than a dedicated farm cam.
And that's that's the end of that polishing up a pig.
Do you remember when the National Park had those dedicated
cameras for eggs to see when they were gonna they
were gonna hatch. That is what I want Hogwatch to be.
I remember when we all thought that's what the Internet

(03:53):
would mostly be, is weird little things like that. That
was a good time. And it's like, speaking of Hogwatch.
One of my favorite things on the old Internet. It
was this crazy old hillbilly in Louisiana who would just
like kill Havelina and like increasingly like convoluted ways, like
it was his job. Like these these are like an
invasive species, and they would destroy like all of these
rice farms and stuff, and there were too many of

(04:15):
them to deal with with like conventional weapons, so he
built like drone rigs and stuff to help him. It
was just like this lunatic out in the middle of nowhere.
I wish that's what Hogwatch was, but it's not. Unfortunately,
the website called David Hogg an anti guns sociopath, a
gun control fascist, and declared him the most dangerous man
in America. The fact that this teenager used curse words

(04:37):
in public a few times led him being dubbed a
profanity laced, foul mouth student who was seething with anger. Yeah, justifiably.
So yeah, like that's fine. I mean yes, seeing a
lot of my friend shot would fill me with anger.
My response would Yeah, pretty normal reaction. Um. Hogwatch was
ground zero for spreading the myth that David Hogg was

(04:58):
a crisis actor. When a vicious meme comparing a picture
of Hog to a picture of Adolph Hitler was deleted
from Facebook, a fellow named Mike Adams, founder of the website,
wrote this one meme that has also been banned, apparently
shows Hog raising his right arm in a manner that
the Nazis used to raise their arms juxtaposed next to
Hitler raising his. The comparison works because it's exact. Now.

(05:20):
No one knows if Mr Hogg is a believer in
Nazi ideology it's doubtful, or if the raising of his
arm at the rally was intentionally provocative, but the optics
are a lot truer than Trump's take a pledge gesture.
More than that, Trump has never advocated for anything close
to what Hitler advocated for and did to Jews, to
inferior races, and ultimately to the German people in his
own country. He then goes on to argue that Hitler

(05:43):
was a gun control advocate, and thus he and David
Hogg have one thing in common, which is of course
not true. Hitler actually loosened gun control laws in Germany
after the end of the Weimar Republic, under which most
guns were banned. He just didn't loosen gun control laws
for Jewish people. Um. But yeah, so Mike Adams is
the foul d of Hogwatch uh and that alone would
be enough to earn him the title of bastard. Over

(06:05):
the last twenty years, Mike has done so so so
so much, so much more. Adams has been an integral
part of the anti vaccine movement, the White UK paranoia craze.
He got involved in uh fucking Ebola panic and urged
people to spoilers drink a bowla infected blood. So this
is a guy, This is a guy worth talking about

(06:29):
for about roughly two hours. So now we're gonna, yeah,
we're we're we're gonna delve into this ship. Um, it's
really fun. I'm thrilled to be talking to you about
this because, uh, for personally, I know so much about
Alex Jones and I look into him obsessively, but Mike
Adams is a real piece of his world that I
know very little about. So as much as I am

(06:52):
sort of an expert in in a lot of these
worlds I I am, I am going to be shocked
by a lot of this, I think. And one of
the question is about Mike Jones, Like when I when
I put together three part Alex Jones series, there's a
ton of information about Jones's early life, about his childhood,
about what he was up to in high school, like you,
because actual journalists like Rolling Stone and whatnot have like

(07:12):
picked through his life and talked to people who knew
him when he was younger, and like, so you can
put together a pretty complete picture of his development. We
don't have that. One of the mysteries we have with
Mike Adams, in addition to why he calls himself the
Health Ranger, is why no one's been talking about this guy,
because he's actually hugely influential, and I don't know why

(07:35):
up until very recently, he's not gotten any sort of attention.
So that's kind of one of the mysteries running through
this tale. Because he's been ranging the Southwest solving health
problems one city at a time, and he shows up
right after Chuck Norris does. He's the Health Rangers. He
shows up right after Chuck Norris and right before Dr
Quinn medicine woman does a lot of cleaning up after

(07:58):
Mike Adams, his aunts ter So he's the original Ranger.
Oh so wait, so he's he has he's he has
the blood of newman Or in him. Yeah. Absolutely, I
mean he is a little bit stacked. I'm not gonna lie.
He created one of the silmarillion. How many more references
can we toss it here? I'm not gonna stop. So

(08:20):
when it comes to like his actual biography, where he
comes from, what his young life is. I don't know
very much about that at all, and in fact, it
were mostly left to the bio he wrote himself on
his personal website, health ranger dot com, which always reliable,
super reliable. Do you think do you think there's a
possibility it's a fake name and that's why it's hard

(08:41):
to trace down his biographical information, you know, I don't
think so, just because he's run at least one legitimate
business and nobody's brought up issues with that before, like
people have delved into into him. But at the same time,
like I really don't know, I really don't know, Dan.
It's it's possible that his name is so boring Adams

(09:05):
so boring, yeah, he I mean, so is Alex Jones.
Yeah it's true. Yeah, But for whatever reason, Alex Jones
has become like you can use Alec Jones as a verb,
like that guy's Alex Jones being pretty hard. Like nobody
does that for Mike Adams. His website states Adams was
born in nineteen sixty seven in Lawrence, Kansas. He owns

(09:26):
a bachelor holds a Bachelor of Science degree in college
entrance exams and Graduate school Entrance Exams ADAMS School in
the ninety nine percentile across all US students. He aced
the English Mathematics and Science sections of college entrance exams,
scoring a hundred on three out of four sections, earning
numerous offers of scholarships from various universities, including the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology, which he chose not to attend. Now

(09:51):
you seem to find a lot of that pretty funny
Jordan's Jordan's laughing his ass off. I'm aggressively shaking my head. No, no,
what You notice something suspicious about the way he phrased
his credentials there anytime any one of these guys claims
to have a degree, I'm always like, Oh, it's from
it's from Turkey. Where's it from? Where? No one knows

(10:11):
it was? Because he does not say where he earned
his BS, which leads me to think that it might
be BS. Uh. Now, I did find a breakdown of
his biography on think Progress that notes m I T
financial aid has been entirely need based since the nineteen sixties, um,
which means that he's definitely lying about M I T

(10:32):
offering him a full scholarship because they just they just
don't do that. If you get into m I T
and you can't pay, then you can qualify for help.
But they don't just like, oh, you're so genius, we'll
pay your way in come onto m I That's just
not how m I T works. Um, so there's one
they're running low. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's sucking m
I T. Yeah, they have a dearth of options, to

(10:54):
be honest. Now, Mike claims that he chose not to
attend graduate school, but was offered numerous scholarships to do so.
And again he's not specific about any of this, so
it's impossible to track down where he even graduated from.
I can say other Mike adams Is have graduated from colleges. Yeah,

(11:16):
maybe it is a fake name. Uh. It seems to
be very important to Mike Adams that you know that
every college in America badly wanted him and that he
wouldn't he wouldn't give in to them. So he's he's
he seems to have this urge to college teas a
little bit. Um, he's nagging all the collegiates, nagging the
higher education system. These guys, these guys put ninety nine

(11:39):
percentile into their bios the same way putin is like
I won with the vote, Like you're you're going too
far overboard there, it's too clear. Not to brag, But
when I got my G E D I was in
the like percent time putin there it is, Yeah, not
to brag, but before I dropped out of college, I
had a solid tune nine hell yeah yeah, And if

(12:02):
you triple that, it's basically nine. Not quite but close enough,
close enough for jazz. Yeah yeah. Now, according to Mike,
Mike got numerous offers from colleges to a to attend
graduate school, but he chose not to because alas he

(12:22):
had another mistress software. Mike claims he opened a company
in that quote went on to become a multimillion dollar
entity that provided email technology solutions to many fortune firms
and specialized in email alert technologies for universities and government offices.
Now this brings us to the first of Mike's claims
that we can really dig into, and it kind of

(12:42):
seems to be at least largely true. The Yeah, the
company he launched was called Aerial. It's still around today.
They did and do mass email management, and they wound
up being used by big names like Microsoft, U C
l A, and the U. S. Treasury Department. It is
a legitimate company that operates UM and has has worked
with some really big players UM. When I started reading

(13:05):
about what his company does, it seemed like it might
kind of be a little bit spammy UM. And one
of the problems of researching Mike Adams is I ran
into some allegations that that's exactly what he was doing,
that he ran a gigantic email spamming operation. But the
article that made those allegations was health wise spelled w
y z E Media, which is a very strange website.

(13:29):
They are definitely weirdo Christian extremists who believe strange things
about healthcare. They also dug really deeply into Mike Adams
because they hate him and documented their claims about him
really authoritatively. So it's one of these, like it's a
very strange case. They do claim that Ariel was an
industrial spamming operation UH and their their evidence for that

(13:51):
included citing an Aerial Software press release which included quotes
from Mike Adams boasting about Arial's ability to help company
of aid anti spam software. UM once a personalized email
messages composed Campaign Enterprise version seven point five. Users can
simply suppress the anti Spam test button to perform an
instant check of their outbound mail. The messages then instantly

(14:13):
run through a preprogramed checklist, which uses a set of
evolving criteria to will evaluate the outbound email messages anti
spam compliant if any part of the email message resembles
the traits of spam. The users alerted that the intended
email message could be perceived a spam by recipients of
email filters. Now health wise me like translates this as
he's running a big spamming operation. Other sites I found
talking about it make it seem like maybe he's just

(14:35):
helping large companies email their customers without their emails get
caught by spam filters. It's probable that both things are true. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
the software could easily do both has like a use
legitimately and then yeah, which is very fitting for some
chunks of Mike Adams's career. Um Now, he claims that

(14:58):
he sold the company into thousand three, although other sources
I found list him as a CEO. Still, I don't
know if he's still involved with Aerial or not. It's
very possible. He claims that he sold it, and it
seems like it one way or the other, it made
him very wealthy. That's one of the few things that
I do know about him is he's like insanely rich. Yeah,
he's got a super rich Yeah. Yeah, I mean he's

(15:21):
like his fucking treasury department in Microsoft that a bunch
of Fortune five really did use his software. And he's
kind of in the same spot where McAfee was in
the late nineties where if you were like the first
guy to offer this service to big companies, you could
just make a billion fucking dollars like for easy. Yeah.
He's like a few steps away from where McAfee is now. Yeah,

(15:43):
they're actually not very different people. Yeah. Um, although you know,
Mike is much more focused on health and McAfee is
much more focused on pounding bourbon and uh yeah, self
care is important. Yeah, it is critical now. On Mike's
personal website, his bio goes right from selling aerial to

(16:05):
founding the website for which he is most famous, natural
news dot com. But there was an interlude grift that
he leaves out. Uh. In nine, Mike Adams got deep
into the White two K business. Now, I assume you
all both remember what White two K was. Some of
our listeners were young, so basically in the late nineties,
there was a worry that like this calendar switchover on

(16:28):
computers from was going to fuck up a bunch of software.
And most people were like, oh, it could cause some
complications for companies that have digitized, you know, their their operations.
And crazy people were like, it's got to be the apocalypse.
And Mike Adams was on the crazy person's side of
that spectrum. Um surprised me too much. This is right

(16:48):
on brand for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey guys, this
is gonna pop into the middle of the episode at
a weird point because I forgot to call the ad
break at the point I was supposed to, but it's
time for ads. So Mike Adams was actually one of
the chief drivers of the fear about a year two

(17:11):
thousand info apocalypse. In he launched a website called White
two K newswire um Now. The Daily Beast summarizes it
as promoting all the worst White two K scares stock
market collapse, power grid failure, food scarcity, societal implosion, even
as experts debunked those fears He sold nine subscriptions to

(17:31):
White two K Newswire, which he build as providing access
to a wealth of information, much of it too sensitive
for public release. So he goes right from software to
kind of sailing right into the same sees that Alex
Jones was was was learning to captain right and around
the same how's the website doing now? Though, actually we'll

(17:52):
talk about that. It doesn't seem like a good long
term business. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't ideal. It seems really
wild to me that that like his time and software
like predates this Y two K fear. That kind of
implies that he would have some knowledge about how these
programs work and how you know he knows computers. Maybe

(18:13):
he has, but that's what makes the scam even better
for him. He knows there's no chance of anything going negative,
so he can ride that out. He has the appearance
of false authority. Yeah yeah, yeah, well, and he knows
how to like, he knows how to make authoritative sounding
claims about what's going to happen because he knows actual
computer language. He knows enough about computers to scare sixty

(18:34):
year old people who uh, like, we're scared of them
and had like bought them for their company because some
young gun executive was like, well, yeah, to digitize you know.
I that is interesting. That might have gone hand in
hand with his software selling for those major corporations, as
he saw all of those people trying to adjust themselves
to a new software and he's like, these people are

(18:56):
too easy to scam. Yeah, I'm gonna start my own
side hustle. And he met Alex. Yeah. I suspect that
may have had something to do with it. Jordan's now,
Mike didn't just sell subscriptions to his his white u
K news wire though, h he this is gonna sound
very familiar. He sold survival food for doomsday bonkers. He
sold gold coins because every grifter is legally required to

(19:19):
sell gold and at least one point in their career.
You gotta call it. And I'm sure he used the
word bully and constantly. Oh yeah, I wouldn't even be
surprised if he was involved with like Ted Anderson too,
but I didn't. I didn't find any evidence of that,
but yeah, it's entirely possible. Um. He sold special one

(19:40):
year subscriptions to his his service for five hundred and
sixty nine dollars. That came with what he called one
year basic food unit, which I think was just like
dried food, and access to his emailing list for fucking
six hundred bucks. Um talking about basic Give it to
me in a bucket and I'll call it great. On
November eighteenth, nine, as they presume apocalypse approached, Whitewok news

(20:04):
wire started selling ten ounces of gold coins in a
package for three thousand, three hundred and fifty dollars, which
is only seven hundred dollars more than the index prices
for gold on the open market at the time. So
that's steel a steel, yes, steal. What a bargain now?
According to think Progress quote in a sense deleted excerpt

(20:25):
on Adams, a site published by zd Net, Adams boasted
that in ninete and an effort to fine tune his
web marketing techniques, Michael Adams launched a six month experiment
to determine what kind of revenues are possible when combining
his proprietary techniques and technologies with a high awareness topic.
The result, with only the help of one employee, he
created a subscriber base of over fifty thou people and

(20:46):
sold over four hundred thousand dollars worth of information products
while offering an open ended money back guarantee. So Mike
starts using he because he's built this email company's he's
starting to understand like keywords and how computers are and
how these the algorithms that are just now being built
to sort of govern the Internet react to certain words.

(21:07):
And so he's figuring out how to reach the highest
number of people by like specifically angling topics in a
certain way. Like he's figuring out what we would call
search engine optimization techniques. In so he's one of the
very very first people in like realizing the opportunity here. Um.
One of the things that like drew the most people

(21:27):
into his White two K news wire site was an
article called thirty nine Unanswered Questions about White two K,
which is sort of like an early listical, which is
like Mike Adam is being like, Okay, this is this
is how you get people, not just like because they
like to BuzzFeed. He did BuzzFeed before BuzzFeed or crack
or cracked because we beat BuzzFeed to it, but being

(21:48):
nothing more terrifying than a cunning, clever more on like
this guy. Yeah, yeah, when a monster deeply deeply innovative.
Um and so yeah, he's he gets a lot of
attention at the time for just like how effective his
his spamming techniques are in his ability to reach people
with his bullshit? Is now why two K came and went?

(22:10):
And uh, spoilers, the world didn't end? Um very little went. Yeah,
well you might think you might think that this would
be at least a moderate embarrassment for a man who
had built a career off of warning people that doom
was headed in the Erie two thousand, But Mike Adams
actually leaned into it, replacing his website White two K

(22:32):
Newswire with a one page Q and A In it,
he noted in the end people were lucky they were
not placed in harm's way. If they didn't know, didn't
hurt them. But through this entire process, the public never
knew the extent to which their government was preparing for
Why two K was our government prepared to declare martial law?
Of course government leaders would have been irresponsible not to

(22:54):
consider that possibility. That is too good, too good? How
dare he get it right? Yeah, he's He's not a
dumb man. It implies a lot of flexibility. Yeah, that's
what a lot of these these folks do. It's like,
you know, when their predictions don't come come true, it's like, wow,
we were close. It almost happened. You. They all have

(23:17):
to be pivoters to be successful. And like Alex Jones
used to be a pretty decent pivoter and he stopped
pivoting after Trump got elected. Or you know, he's tried
a few times, but he can't. He just can't do
it anymore. He has to pivot within the box. Yeah,
he's not free like free range animal. Yeah. A health rangers,

(23:38):
A health ranger. Yeah. Now. Mike framed government efforts to
stop people from panicking about hit tu K as the
government telling people not to prepare it all for natural disasters.
He twisted the government warning people not to stockpile for
ye two K into a conspiracy. The government, he said,
was trying to discourage individual preparedness. Later on in his
fact sheet, Mike launches into what might be the earliest example.

(24:00):
I found a FEMA conspiracy mongering who the pre y?
T u K? Information battles brought forth a new dangerous
line of thinking that individual preparedness is bad for society
as a whole. This theory, supported and publicized by various
government leaders, removes the possibility the responsibility of preparedness from
the people, moving it to centralized government agencies like Femaam there.

(24:22):
It is from nine or two thousand, right after the
new Yea, the millennium balls on that guy. Yeah it is.
It is the most annoying bullshit that they always get
that if it does, it's the disaster doesn't happen. The
preparedness was them like hiding the secret from you. If

(24:43):
it does happen, the fact that you didn't prepare enough
is why the government is trying to kill you. There's
no win. They always get you. Yeah. Yeah, like you
have this and and and as further evidence of that,
like you could see and I think a reasonable person
would see the way that of the whole world kind
of moved to compensate for the white two K problem

(25:05):
and like fixed all of the problems and computers that
we had so it wasn't a big issue. You can
see that as like, oh, maybe the technological order of
our society is a little bit more robust than we thought,
and we are capable of like adapting to problems like this. Uh.
Mike Adams wrote that this was actually a bad sign
because now the fault tolerance of our civilization was still untested.

(25:25):
Oh it's like superbugs. Yeah, we're all too healthy. Yeah,
now we're all too we're all too healthy. We don't
know what. We didn't get a chance to sweet summer children. Yeah. Now.
Mike Adams also claimed in this article that he never
made a dime off of selling White two K preparedness equipment.
Contrary to what was misreported in several newspapers and websites,

(25:48):
White two K Newswire was never in the White two
K supplies business. It never made a dime from product
sales or recommendations, and it refused to accept advertisements on
its website. This sounds a lot like Alex's whole, Like
wars doesn't sell anything if a war store sells everything. Yeah,
they're different things. And later in this he also claims
to have donated like tens of thousands of dollars to

(26:08):
the Red Cross from the prophets he made solid White
preparedness equipment against them. Yeah, they're they're a religious organization
of some sort. He's pretty religious. But yeah yeah, now, uh.
The end of that post notes the shutdown of White
two k news Wire, which you know. Mike shutdown after

(26:29):
putting this post up and claimed that he was moving
on to write at a website called zop dot com,
which he described as a personal empowerment website, a site
dedicated to improving the lives of one million people by
bringing them new knowledge and skills covering alternative medicine. And
not one person, more exactly a million exactly. Guys are

(26:51):
joking around, but this sounds like a pretty cool venture.
If this, if this website, if this website helps one
million and one people, I'm gonna have to kill somebody
one in one out at club now. Zop dot com
was only active as a health and wellness website until
mid two thousand two, when Mike Adams seems to have

(27:11):
wounded down to focus on natural news. However, as I
trawled through the sites archives on the way Back Machine,
I noticed something interesting. The domain seems to have been
allowed to allie fallow for a year, but then it
came back in mid two thousand four. But this time
zop dot com was not a health and wellness site.
It was a mass email subscription service for websites operated
by Aerial Software, which by this point Mike Adams claimed

(27:34):
not to own anymore. Fucking guy. That's that's such a
tip my cap to you, sir. Well done. Now, in
two thousand three, Mike Adams launched natural News. At least
that's when he claims he launched natural News. The Daily

(27:57):
Beast dug into it and found out that he didn't
register the site until two thousand five and didn't actually
start publishing articles regularly until two thousand eight. But somewhere
between in that five year period, he was he was
thinking about it before I founded it in my mind. Yeah,
built it in his head first. Now, even lie about
the small stuff, even the smallest stuff, that gotta lie

(28:19):
about it. Yeah, it's like Paul Manafort. If they they
if they if they stop doing the thing that they do,
they explode. So they just habitually do it. And uh yeah. Now.
Natural news dot Com was initially at least a pretty
standard Woo and Crystal sort of website about fringe healthcare treatments.
Many of its articles focused on concerns that are pretty

(28:39):
common on the left wing, to fears about GMO crops,
articles about how monsanto is literally worse than Hitler, claims
that Big Farm is poisoning people. Pretty pretty standard fair,
which you'd kind of expect to find on any sort
of like you know, lefty health news website. Uh. And
in its early days, Natural News regularly adopted fairly liberal
attitudes towards social issues. They even did things that might

(29:01):
have verged on decent reporting. For example, this two thousand
eight article illegal immigrants create far lower healthcare cost burden
than previously assumed, written by David Goodier. As the article
seems to be, it's like it's it reads like an
acceptable piece of reporting. I'm going to read a quote
from it, just because everything that comes after this is
going to seem so fucking crazy that, like, it's insane

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to me that it started here. A common argument among
those pushing for a tougher line against illegal residence is
that such people provide a drain upon public healthcare resources.
But according to Phoenix Nuniyaz, former director of the South
Central Family Healthcare Center, illegal residents try tend to shy
away from primary care visits because they are daunted by
having to provide social security numbers, identification and employment histories.
My gut would have told me that they'd be higher

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users of emergency services. Because they're not coming in for
routine preventative care. Nunias said, the assumption is not borne
out by the u c l A study, which also
refutes the idea that illegal resident residents use less medical
care because they tend to be younger and healthier than
the general population. According to the researchers, the difference in
medical visits remained even after adjusting for age, health status,
insurance status, and poverty. This kind of study is really

(30:06):
important because it forces you to look at the data
and rethink your assumptions. Nunia said, what, Yeah, that's like
a normal, reasonable article about something meaningful. How dare the
health rangers sully his good name with reasonable reporting? Bullshit?
I don't know what the funk was happening in two
thousand and eight, but that's an article they published and

(30:27):
it reads I don't know. That's the hardest thing I've had. Yeah,
that's tough. It's it just is a perfectly normal seeming article.
Uh Now, what's set Natural News apart during its early period.
What's not its content, which was mostly forgettable, but the
skill with which Mike Adams manipulated Google's algorithms to maximize
his traffic in addition to Natural News, he registered a

(30:49):
string of health advice websites Expectant Mothers dot com, News
Target dot com, hoodia factor dot com, which I don't
know what the funk that is emerging future dot com,
spa m anatomy dot com, Vitamin factor dot org, Counterthink
dot com, health factor dot info, junk Science dot info,
Brain health news dot com, low karrest oral Diets dot

(31:10):
diets Link dot com, Public health news dot org, Pharmawatch
dot info, Home Toxins dot com, poison Pantry dot org,
Depression Factor dot org, web seed dot com, and Consumer
Wellness dot org. Now, all of these websites would regularly
link back to Natural News, using its articles to support
for their claims about the dangers of GMOs and why
you should buy various supplements, which, of course Mike Adams

(31:31):
sold on the Natural News store. Mike essentially created an
alternative fact ecosystem consisting of dozens of websites, many of
which seemed legitimate and claimed to be the work of
actual medical professionals. These sites would bolster each other's credibility
and spread advertisements for products Mic sold on natural news
dot com. Mike Adams was one of if not the
very first people to pioneer this strategy. So yeah, it's

(31:53):
almost like a weird like just completely self contained affiliate
marketing operations. Yeah, file file that under things that we
didn't know should have been crimes a year ago. Yeah,
a long time ago. Yeah. No one thought, at the
dawn of the Internet, we should make it a crime
to create your own universe of lies. Yeah, I think.

(32:15):
I think just no one thought you could pull it off.
Like someone will, someone will stop him before he gets yeah,
no one will buy it. Ye that turns out to
do Yeah. Yeah. Now, like any good grifter, Mike invented
a sympathetic backstory for himself. He started claiming that, at
age thirty, he'd been diagnosed with type two diabetes. Rather
than taking the advice of doctors, he'd started researching wellness,

(32:38):
and as one of his website bios reads, he cured
himself of diabetes in a matter of months and transformed
himself into the picture of perfect health and mind, body
and spirit. So, using this backstory and the fact that
Mike Adams is a legitimately stacked and very fit looking man,
he embarked on selling bullshit health solutions to millions and
millions of people. You've called him stacked twice now, which

(33:01):
he's Look, man, you know I'm gonna I'm gonna call
a swall a swall boy is yoked. Yeah, we can.
We can attack somebody and not like I can. I
can attack Alex Jones and admire his incredibly thick neck.
Absolutely credit, according to the Daily Beast quote. In August

(33:27):
two thousand seven, Adams wrote a fifty eight hundred word
independent review of the Amazon Herb Company, a multi level
marketing organization selling herbal supplements. The article and others originally
appeared on his site News Target, but we're transferred to
Natural News with their original time stamps intact. The special
report offers a detailed third part of your review of
the Amazon Herb Company from a truly independent perspective, meaning
I'm not an employee or associated of the company, and

(33:48):
I have absolutely no financial ties with him either, Adams
wrote in his review. Now that makes me think he does. Yeah. Yeah.
The result is that he and the founder of the
company had entered business together into thousand six or two
thousand seven. Based on Arizona nonprofit business records dug up
by The Daily Beast and the Amazon herb company was
not the only multi level marketing scam might got involved with.

(34:09):
Can I see your question really quick? Absolutely? Is that
related to Amazon the company or as the rainforest? It's
I think using the name of the rainforest because rainforest
makes you think of health, even though it's one of
the most deadly disease riddle places on the planet. Actually
just making sure because it would be very bizarre if

(34:30):
he was involved with someone running an herbal MLM that
was affiliated with Amazon. No company, No, no, not as
far as I can tell, I'm always weirded out by
people because you run into like a lot of use
of Amazon and like rainforest imagery in uh, in like
health companies and stuff. And I spent my childhood reading
like the stories of like Victorian colonizers who like would

(34:51):
wander through the Amazon and like of them would die
horribly of like flies burrowing into their bodies and stuff.
So that's because they didn't eat the right stick. To me,
the Amazon is a place of horrors. But yeah, to
Mike Adams, uh it was an opportunity to make a
lot of money, and he did, and he made even
more money working with an m l M called mos

(35:13):
or which sold Omega three supplements made from green lipped muscles.
Microrote articles about the supposed health benefits of these supplements
and advised his readers to enroll as distributors with the company. Um.
Of course, Mike also was on the board of mocks
Or as well, and was you know, an employee there,
But he didn't talk so much about that. Yeah. So

(35:35):
he hits upon a solid business plan early on, which
is you build this this audience, you get a lot
of people reading your stuff, and then you start selling
them on m l m s, which he does twice
in a row, but then doesn't seem to do later.
So it may be that he found out that like
the m l M biz you know, isn't as as
profitable as he would have hoped. He got bored. The
man has conquered so many worlds, like Alexander the Great,

(35:58):
he cried salt tears, No more m lms were there
for him. Well, and he you know Jordan's He's he
was already rich at this point. Um. But Mike, Mike
Adams is not the kind of guy who likes to
flaunt his wealth. Um. And in two thousand eight he bragged,
today I live in a modular trailer unit in Austin.
I still drive a Toyota pickup truck. I dressed like

(36:19):
a rancher in blue jeans and flannel shirt, and nobody
gives it a second thought when I'm out in public.
Some people want to look rich and popular, so they
wear a lot of blaying and drive a high end
card they can't afford, and they live in a house
they can't pay off, and they try to fool everybody
into thinking they're rich and powerful. I'd rather fool people
into thinking I'm not powerful. That's so fucking annoying. He
that is the most annoying thing you could do. I'm annoyed.

(36:40):
It creeps me out even more than someone who wants
to have like like really nice watches and trick people.
It's like, what are you hiding well? And and that
kind of goes into a little bit about how this
guy is deeply influential and has done a lot of
damage over the years, but has flown under the radar,
and it's like, oh, that's his goal. He knows on

(37:02):
some level that turning himself into an Alex Jones type
would not have gone well for him. Yeah, yeah, I
shouldn't you pop your head up and then you get popped? Yeah,
kind of like whack a mole kind of thing. He's
got the type of wealth and the type of ashholesh
nature of using it that makes you think maybe he's
actually just got a pyramid somewhere that he's like all
of his money has gone towards an actual pyramid that's

(37:23):
going to be buried in, like Nicolas Cage, Like that's
all he's doing with all the associate writers of Natural
News around him as his U. I thought you were
going to say that Nicholas Cage was going to be
buried with all of the associate writers of National Treasure
of those movies got Diana Krueger. It's called case. Is

(37:46):
that what it's going commit to the bit I I
will say this speaking of Nicolas Cage, and then we'll
get back to topic. I will be shocked if he
is not buried with other living human beings. Yeah, that
just seems very on brand for nick. I think there
will be about the population, like let him do it.
It's fine. Nicolas Cage in his greatest role, the murderer

(38:10):
of eight people. He's nuts, but he's interesting. Now in
two thousand eight, the same year that he got involved
in those m L. M. S uh Mike wrote a
book called The Seven Principles of Mindful Wealth. In it
he describes his operating philosophy. He describes his operating philosophy
as quote, getting past self imposed limits on wealth. Karma

(38:31):
doesn't pay the rent. Good karma isn't the recognized currency
in modern society. Dollars are. But again, it's like he
seems to be one of these guys who every now
and then will drop a little hind is like I
don't give a shit about good karma, about being a
good person, Like I'm about making that fucking money. But
he phrases it in such a way that it's like
like a self help sort of uh tip, rather than

(38:53):
like him what he's really saying, which is like being
a good person doesn't pay the rent. Yeah, that's it.
Have the ring of some like really bland self help stuff. Yeah,
it's just like all right, yeah whatever. Yeah, it's just
a little bit of darkness in here, but it's bland
and boring enough that you don't notice it, which is
again a good summary of Mike Adams as a person. Now,

(39:14):
I wanted to take the time to discuss and deconstruct
one of Mike's larger articles here, both to give you
an idea of how he presents his ideas and how
to illustrate how much his website changed from two thousand
eight to two twelve. So in February, Mike himself published
an article titled Microsoft buyas eugenics technology from Mark becomes
drug development partner with top global vaccine manufacture. So the

(39:37):
article starts by revealing that Microsoft just bought a piece
of genomic information software from Mark to use in their
Amalga Life Sciences platform. This is a program you probably
haven't heard of that Microsoft sold to research institutions, drug
companies and universities in order to help them evaluate data
while carrying out clinical tests. It sounds pretty dull, right, Yeah,
not if you're Mike fucking Adams micro quote. Rupert Vessi,

(40:01):
the vice president of Mercurysearch Laboratories, openly admits his deal
puts Microsoft in the role of being a bold drug developer.
He says, we look forward to collaborating with Microsoft developed
new bio informatic solutions to enable an expedite drug discovery
and development. This is a key statement to understand because
the term bioinformatic can only mean one thing, what stores

(40:23):
information in biology. There is only one digital information storage
system in human biology, and that is of course d
n A. Therefore, the idea of developing bioinformatic solutions really
means to develop gene targeting drugs and vaccines. This is
fully consistent with Bill Gates's admitted agenda of reducing world
population with the help of drug companies, technologies, and of course,

(40:46):
mechanized mosquitoes. Oh boy, Yeah, I can't disagree with anything
that he said right there. Pretty sure he's he's really
nailed it. He's the leaps of logic are right on.
He does bring up the mosquitoes in this article, of course. Yeah,
all these people do. Mike goes on to note all
this comes on the heels of other recent news that

(41:07):
Bill Gates is funding sperm destroying technology to cause widespread
male infertility. Now, are you aware of Bill gates is
sperm destroying technology, Dan, We've we've wrestled with some of
Bill Gates's false, nefarious plans through Alex's, uh, his rhetoric
in the past. I'm not sure if I'm not sure
if we've touched on the specifics of how he's going

(41:29):
to get rid of sperm. Yeah, did when did he invent? No,
the actual story that he's referring to is the Bill
and Melinda Gates Foundation gave a hundred thousand dollars to
researchers who had developed a non invasive method of birth control,
which in this case involved destroying sperm with ultrasound. So

(41:50):
that's the actual story, which she translates to Bill Gates
is going to kill your sperm. I mean, if you
can do with ultrasound, eventually we'll get a gon. Yeah,
that'll just you know, shoot somebody's sperm from I think
that's an effective tinder to turns now. Mike puts all
this together and concludes that Bill Gates is plotting to

(42:10):
depopulate the planet in order to kill off large swaths
of human beings. The most efficient mechanism to use as
a self replicating gene targeted bioweapon, Microsoft's Amalga Life Sciences
technology developer March, which he misspells Mark's name there, theoretically
provides a viable platform to develop precisely such bioweapons. It
is interesting that no announcements from the company appeared to

(42:31):
have been made since being acquired by Microsoft in two
thousand nine, indicating that their work is now being conducted
in total secrecy behind closed doors. I bet they did
make an announcement. I bet they did. They did an
announcement in two thousand sixteen that they'd sold the company
to ge because it wasn't profitable. But to Mike, the

(42:54):
case is clear. There is no better way to promote
the vaccine profits of the pharmaceutical industry than to actually
release an engineered bio weapon virus into the wild. And
there is no faster way to reduce the world population
than to engineer either a vaccine or weaponized flu virus
that burns through the human population, targeting those of an
undesirable genetic profile who need to be cleansed from the
human gene pool. People. I gotta read this next paragraph, Danny. Sorry,

(43:20):
think about this the next time you think about purchasing
Microsoft Office Windows or someone in a Microsoft project. By
doing so, you are funding what could very well be
a global eugenics agenda with the ultimate goal of wiping
out a significant proportion of the human race. If you
save something in a dock x file, you are killing

(43:41):
your children. I am so glad that I've spent most
of my life torrenting microsoftware just so that I have
your hands are clean. Oh my god, didn't he used
to work with Microsoft in his email company? Yeah, he
definitely did. They were a client of fists. M M.
Now it occurs to me. We're now forty something minutes

(44:04):
and I've forgotten too ad breaks because I am a
hack and a fraud. So the first this AD break
that people are gonna hear is going to be the
second ad break. Uh. And I'm just bad at this.
I'm bad at my job. You should you should hate
and and be ashamed of me, but you should still
buy the products that support this show. We're back. God,

(44:32):
that was really unprofessional in me. I'm ashamed of myself. Yeah,
I mean you could look at it as unprofessionally, could
look at it as we're having a fun time talking
about a horrible dude. Yeah, we're We're really sorry for
entertaining you. No, I mean I I thrive on the
shame a little bit. And since Sophie's not here, I'm
just gonna have to imagine the judgment. Um, but I'll

(44:53):
be okay, I'll get through it. I'll get through it.
So as the Obama years rolled along, Mike grew more
and more committed to using his power for explicitly political ends.
Up until about two thousand ten, he was more or
less an a political figure, avoiding falling hard on one
side or the other of the ideological idol. But as
with his friend Alex Jones, the election of America's first

(45:13):
black president was a profoundly radicalizing experience from Mike. According
to the Daily Beast quote in two thousand ten, when
Natural News began selling its own products, most were hippie
food products like cheesy kale chips or raw macadamia nut butter.
The more questionable products included a buffet of supplements and
parasite cleansing droplets. Today's story takes on a more apocalyptic tone.
Under a category called Nuclear and Biological, readers can buy

(45:36):
breathing masks for children and hundred and sixty dollar electromagnetic
field reader. Meanwhile, far right conspiracy theories who begun to
crowd out articles on the benefits of turmeric powder when
I began writing for them in two thousand ten, I
wrote for about four and a half years. It was
mainly health. One former Natural News writer who spoke on
the condition of anonymity, told The Daily Beast there was
still some political commentary, it's become more extreme in their viewpoints. That,
coupled with some other things going on with that site

(45:58):
and how they were restructuring writers, was one reason I left.
I didn't agree with a lot of what was being
said on the site. So it genuinely wouldn't surprise me
if that was actually a quote from Mike Adams under
under an assumed name, like I'm ch t Adams, Like, yeah, okay, man, background,
I'm not thrilled with what's happened. Yeah, I mean, it's

(46:21):
one of those things most of the people who talk
about him do so anonymously because we'll talk about this later.
He's pretty vicious at the people who come out against him,
which I think is again part of why he hasn't
been covered more, um because he he strikes back when
you go after him. Swing at Mike yeah, yeah, well yeah,
if you take a swing at Mike Adams, He's going

(46:41):
to try and take a swing back at you. Now.
The clearest sign that things at Natural News were shifting
in a truly dark direction came at the end of
two thousand twelve, when Adam Lanza killed twenty children and
six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Two days after
the massacre, Mike Adams wrote a post on natural news
dot com. The title was gun can troll? We need
medication control. Newtown school shooter Adam Lanza lightly on meds

(47:05):
labeled as having personality disorder. Now this is a familiar
line of of discussion to you guys. Alex Jones has
the same opinion. That was a Yeah, there was a
large part of his immediate stuff about Sandy Hook was
definitely a lot of medication stuff. Yeah, And that is
one where I think Jones had Mike Adams beat, because

(47:27):
Jones has been on the they're all xanac zombies or
whatever line for a long time. If I'm not in
a stage all the way back to Columbine. Yeah, Well,
I'm not sure if he was relevant at the day
at the time of Columby, but yeah, yeah, for sure.
In the two thousand nine two thousand eight period we
cover a lot of times shootings, he does talk about
prozac heads and what have you. So, yeah, I mean

(47:47):
it's it's yeah, It's definitely been a long standing part
of his rhetoric. Yeah, so I'm gonna quote what Mike
Adams wrote in that article. According to ABC News, Adam Lanza,
the alleged shooter, has been labeled as having mental illness
and a personality disorder. These are precisely the words typically
hurt in a person who is being treated with mind
altering psychiatric drugs. One of the most common side effects

(48:09):
of psychiatric drugs is violent outbursts and thoughts of suicide.
The Columbine High School shooters were, of course, on psychiatric
drugs at the time they shot their classmates in nine.
Suicidal tendencies and violent destructive thoughts are some of the
admitted behavioral side effects of mind altering prescription medications. Adam's
next pivots to claiming that prescription drugs cause a hundred
thousand deaths per year and using this as a justification

(48:31):
for why guns should not be banned. He goes on
to write for guns to be as deadly as medications,
you'd have to see a Newton style massacre happening ten
times a day, every day of the year. Only then
would gun violence even match up to the number of
deaths caused by doctor prescribed FDA approved medications. Now, caused
is an interesting word in there. But yeah, yeah, caused

(48:52):
is an interesting word. And uh, I've got a breakdown
of exactly why this is bullshit because I think it's important.
I can't I can't take credit for doing all the
research on this. I founded on the personal blog of
a fellow named Dr David Gorsky. Now Dr Gorsky writes
under the pseudonym RAQ on a blog called Respectful Insolence. Uh.
He's a real doctor and a real surgeon, and he

(49:14):
also writes for Science Based Medicine, which is a great side.
He's he's a very credentialed fellow. Um. And since most
of the mainstream press has ignored Mike Adams for years
and years and years, uh, piste off, scientists and medical
professionals like David for a long time have been the
only people really keeping tabs on him, and David did
the hard work of breaking down exactly why Mike's claims

(49:34):
in this article or bullshit. Uh. He points out that
the main studies cited by Mike Adams was published in
p L O S One by Thomas J. Moore, Joseph
Glenn Mullen, and Kurt die Ferberg. And entitled prescription drugs
associated with reports of violence towards others. Now. The study
was a result of the f d a's Adverse Event
Reporting System from two thousand and four to two thousand nine,

(49:55):
and the authors basically looked for drugs whose users seemed
to be involved in an unusual number of violent altar cations.
They picked out thirty one medications, including eleven antidepressants, three
A D D drugs, and smoking cessation drugs as well
as you know. So, I don't know if you guys
listened to the episode I did on the anti vaccine movement,
But one of the main pieces of evidence that anti

(50:15):
vaxxers will use for the dangers of vaccines is vair's data,
which is the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System. So anytime
someone has a vaccine and something bad happens to them,
it goes into this database, and it's useful for researchers
trying to determine if there might be patterns of illness
associated with something, but it doesn't prove causation um And
the database that this this information is being drawn from

(50:38):
that they're using to conclude that psychiatric drugs cause violence,
is the same sort of database, and it has the
same problems. For one thing, it doesn't tell you, you know,
they're picking out all these people who had violent altercations
after being prescribed psychiatric medications. The FARES database doesn't tell
you if they had violent issues before being put on
those drugs. So it's possible that all of these people

(50:58):
had violent criminal history before getting medicated and then continue
do commit crimes given a full account of their context,
what their lifestyle is, where the their economic it is position. No,
it's just yeah, it is a passive reporting system and
it is only meant to be used and like a
high level thing for doctors to be like, oh, you know,

(51:20):
we've noticed this weird cluster of of behaviors associate with it.
We should look into this way way way more and
do focused research, and only then should we conclude that
there is a problem. But people like the the authors
of this unscrupulous people like the authors of this report
can use the data to make a claim that there
is an association between violence and psychiatric medication UM, and

(51:45):
that seems to be what's happening in this exact study.
David Gorsky goes on to note quote about the authors
of that study. Mr Moore has received consulting fees from
litigators and cases involving peroxytane, which is one of the
drugs in the study, and was an expert witness in
a criminal case involving Vara Nikelean, which is another one
of the drugs in the study. Dr Glenmullin has been

(52:05):
retained as an expert witness in cases involving varnikelein and
psychiatric drugs including antidepressants, antipsychotics, bindozai, azepines, mood stabilizers, and
a d h D drugs. Dr Ferberg has received consulting
fees from litigators and cases involving GABA penton um and
also Dr Glen Mullin has written books about solutions to
getting off of antidepressants and claimed that antidepressants cause violence

(52:27):
and profited off of books he's written making those claims.
Was the book called Have You Tried Just Feeling Better? Yeah,
it's the same ship with Andrew Wakefield. All of these
guys had been hired by lawyers to make the case
that they made in the study and then used to
help the lawyers they were working with sue companies and
as you as you were saying that I was just

(52:48):
aggressively nodding because it was that like, it's just so familiar,
it's the same fucking thing. So that's the chief evidence
Mike Adams has to support his claim that, um, you know,
it's it's it's chiatric medications that are behind mash shootings
like Sandy Hook and not the fact that literally anybody
can buy a gun for no reason. Well, he has
those studies and weirdos like John Rappaport telling him that,

(53:12):
you know, like hang up that yeah. Now. Mike Adams
quickly found that mixing in far right conspiracy theories with
his bogus health news was an incredible recipe for printing money.
In the Obama era twoteen, his site was regularly drawing
in two to three million unique visitors per month. Mike
used his understanding of search engine optimization tactics in his

(53:33):
eye for the next big thing in bogus medicine to
capitalize on every health fear that went viral on the Internet.
He became a semi regular co host of Alex jones
Is Info War Show. Do you know when left started?
I don't know when that started. I think it was
around though, because he seems like a pretty long time. Yeah,
he's been added four years, um, and I don't know

(53:56):
why he started calling himself the health Ranger. I'm so sorry.
It's a cool name for someone like him. I understand
why he would do it, but I want to know
if there's like, I'll tell you why. Because he's got
a fucking sword in his garage. God damn it. I
would love to be a health ranger. Yeah, it sounds
like a hoot. Now. During this period of time, Mike

(54:16):
wrote articles for his site with titles like implantable r
F I D chips capable of remotely killing noncompliant slaves, vaccines,
lower immunity fluoride means lower i q S and more
mental retardation, and jumping rope and nine eleven truth how
the sheep will have been trained to avoid unpopular truth
about World Trade Center Building seven? What was that? What

(54:37):
was that? Hold on? Did you say? Jumping rope? And eleven? Yeah? Alright, cool? Cool?
I was see I was back on Double Dutch and
the Waco disaster, So I I missed that one by
a while. Oh, I see, I've been and I've been
on Hop Scotch and Randy Ridge going to be Rich
Randy Ridge, Randy Because Randy Weaver, Ruby Weaver, Randy Ridge,

(55:03):
Ruby Weaver. That's my warm up exercise that I do
before every That's my If I ever get hired to
like write a children's cartoon and I want to hide
like little bits of darkness in it, I'll have a
Ruby Weaver and a Randy Ridge's characters throwing a little
joke that's six year olds under no circumstances. Kid, Randy

(55:24):
Ridge sounds like where horny teenagers go to overthrow the government.
They're up on the Randy Ridge boy. So hearing all that,
Jordan's Dan, you probably won't be surprised to learn that
Mike rushed to capitalize on the two thousand and fourteen

(55:44):
A Bowla outbreak now. As soon as it hit the news,
he launched a new website, bio Defense dot Com, which
was filled with advice on how to fight the disease. Likewise,
after the Fukushima include his aster, he launched ses um
Eliminator dot Com, which sold products that claimed would protect
people fm radioactive fallout. Both websites regularly linked back to
Natural News as evidence for their claims. In addition to

(56:05):
this more run of the mill grifting. Mike also approved
publication during the Ebola outbreak of one of the craziest
articles I think I have ever read, Treating Ebola with homeopathy.
Oh yeah, right now, right, okay. This article ran on
mike site. It was approved by Mike, but it was
authored by a Norwegian homeo path and it is essentially

(56:28):
the recipe for a homemade of bola remedy. I'm going
to read that now, the whole recipe in case any
of y'all are in the market for an ebola treatment
that uh, I'm sure will work, include salt to taste.
It's it's pretty shocking. How to make your own ebola remedy?

(56:49):
What you need? A face mask and gloves, good, of course,
good start, Good starts. Two bottles fifty milliater up to
five mill eater in glass or plastic bottles with caps,
fine clean water, mineral or tap water. Okay, and a
bola samples. Whoa hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, I get the

(57:11):
ebola samples. But isn't there flow ride in the tap water?
That's my I'm sure that was Mike Adams the same
concern but he decided, like, no, a bowl is serious enough.
They can risk the time, all right, they can risk
the floor, righte, I got you now he he specifies

(57:31):
it as some spit or other disease products, such as
blood from a person infected with a bola or who
is suspected sick with it. Any small quantity will do.
Shouldn't this guy call it? Shouldn't was he calling it spit?
This is not This is unprofessional boy, it's it's shocking. Yeah, man,
that's gonna be an ingredient on hell kitchen any moment. Now. Oh,

(57:52):
there's more ingredients and alcoholic liquids such as whiskey, randy, rump, etcetera. Alright, alright,
and six half an hour of your time. Uh, like
you're making a little cake procedure. Fill the bottle with water,

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leaving about space at the top. Bol Sa in the
water in the water in the bottle, close the top
of the bottle with the cap, Hold the bottle and
strike it hard against a solid surface, such as a
large book forty times? What hold on? What? Exactly? Exactly?

(58:36):
For times? You fill your bottle with a life a
bowl of sample and water, and then you hit it
against a book and then you then you're fuck. Then
you need to get more abola. Now, next you pour
the contents of the bottle out, you refill the bottle
with water, and then you repeat three to six a
total of thirty times. What do you do with the

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water with the aubola in it that you have poured out?
The support down the drain that seems safe? Using the
stock bottle, you can supply the abola remedy to as
many people as you wants. No limit, No, even his
website had a million limit. Where does the booze come out?

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So that's to help your deal with having a bowla? Yeah,
you know, I don't see a clear point which I'm
supposed to add the booze. Oh no, No, when you
store it, you add by volume the alcohol as a preservative. Now, guys,

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you may know where none of us are doctors, but
you may have noticed that advising people to acquire samples
of a bowla swashing around in a water bottle support
down sinks could potentially transmit the abola disease to new people.
Like it feels like a possibility, feels like a chance.
If you're advising people to collect samples of the ebola virus. Yeah,

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that's collecting a sample. Part is really the like it's
the buried lead. Yeah, this advice, where are you going
to get that? Holy shit? Now, the recipe is so bad,
so dangerous in toxic that even Mike Adams was forced
to eventually remove it and put up a disclaimer saying
Natural News does not condone any member of the public
attempting to interact with a bowl up. After that, Mike

(01:00:26):
immediately included a related news link with another Natural News article,
Ebola vaccine to be manufactured by criminal drug company with
felony record. So he found it, he found, he found
the right tone. That he got that, he got the
exit door going as well. I like that botched the
first shot, but yeah, to make one free for Yeah,

(01:00:48):
he got his own rebound. I also don't like the
word eventually being in your sentence about like he eventually
took it took a little while. That's not good now, fellas,
speaking of pivots, it's time for me to pivot to
the end of this episode. Uh yeah, you know, we
have a lot more to talk about with Mike Adams, Uh,

(01:01:10):
including were you guys aware that he'd made a rap video?
What you. How dare you? Oh yeah, why did you
not open this episode with the guy we're about to
talk to made a rap video? That's what I wanted
to hear. Yeah, it's pretty pretty special. People weren't thinking
about sticking around, how they are? Who shot j R? Yeah?

(01:01:35):
So before we before we roll out, will you guys
plug your plug doubles here? Yeah? For sure. We have
a website where our show is our podcast. It's Knowledge
Fight dot com, on Twitter, on iTunes, all those other
places knowledge Fight. Uh yeah, he's We're at Knowledge Underscore Fight.
I'm at go to bed Jordan's and I will be
at Zany's for the entire month of July. If you

(01:01:57):
want to come down, I'll be there. In Chicago, its
Cargo in Old Town. Yeah sorry, go to Zany's in Chicago,
or alternatively, find a business of any kind with the
name Zany's in your own area. There were demand demand
at gunpoint, if necessary, that Jordan be allowed to host
a comedy show. I'm in. Yeah, we will accommodate if

(01:02:20):
anyone forces the issue on this. I am not busy,
is my points. I'm Robert Evans. You can find me
online at I right. Okay, on Twitter. You can find
this podcast at behind the Bastards dot com. You can
find us on Twitter and Instagram at at Bastards pod.
We sell t shirts behind the Bastards or no, we
don't sell them there, we sell them at the public
dot com. I'm exhausted. Um, this is the end of

(01:02:42):
the episode. Go hug a cat, uh feed a homeless person. Uh.
I probably shouldn't allege any other crimes here. It's going
to say some about flipping a cop car, but I'm
not gonna say that. I'm not going to say that
now because I already urged people to uh commit one
set of crimes, and I'm gonna keep us to one
crimes per episodes. So we're done. The episode is over.

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Go be with your families. M h m hm hm