Craziest Custom RVs

Custom-built recreational vehicles are a popular travel option for anyone who likes camping, family vacations or just experiencing the freedom of the open road. Join Scott and Ben as they discuss some of the latest (and craziest) custom RV designs.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Go behind the wheel, under the hood and beyond with
car Stuff from how Stuff Works dot Com. I welcome
to Car Stuff. I'm Scott and I'm Ben. We are
joined us always by our team of super producers. We've
got uh Dylan Fagan editing for us today, and we've

(00:23):
got we've got a long time co host partner in
crime met man Man Frederick here. Uh. I guess we
should give him a more appropriate nickname, but we will.
We will get to that because we're returning to a
subject that we have explored in the past and off
and on obsession of mine. Yeah, we're talking about like

(00:44):
mobile homes and r vs and living on the road really, right,
motor homes. Yeah, you've always wanted to have like a
custom van or a motor home or camper or something
like that, right, And I think we'll kind of cover
all those. And I do want to point out that, Uh,
you know, in our earlier episode we talked about all
the different clas designations and you know, kind of the
nuts and bolts are the specks of all the different

(01:04):
uh UM sizes that you can find, and you know,
the variants. Maybe, so today what we're gonna talk about
maybe is just more like some of the crazy, wild
stuff that we've seen and what what's possible. And because
there's some really outstanding RV's available, um, you know that
some that are more like um like rolling palaces practically,
you know, they're they're incredible, aren't they. I Mean when

(01:26):
you look at the photos, they just blow you away.
But first, can I kind of just before we even
talk about this, a little sidebar, and I want to
point out something that, uh, well, a couple of things
I guess maybe, Um, I'm I'm I'm coming back. I'm
just not coming back from a trip to Detroit. I
was there for the holidays, and um, I want to

(01:47):
point out that I noticed while I was there a
lot of people are most people don't have a mobile
device in their hand when they're driving. And I find
that remarkable compared to where we are right now in Atlanta,
because I've fine, it's the opposite here. It's that, you know,
it seems like if you don't have a phone and
you're not texting while you're driving, you're in the minority. Yeah,

(02:08):
it's strange because like most parts of the US, we
also have a law banning uh phone, mobile phone use
while driving unless I think you can do it if
it's hands free. There are a few things. Okay, there's
a few stipulations to this, and I'll have to read
up on, you know, exactly what's happening where. But one
of the reasons that the that that it's not as

(02:30):
prevalent up there, I believe is because from city to
city they have different rules. So in some cities you
are allowed to use a phone that you're holding in
your hand, and others you have to be hands free,
and others it's completely banned. So no one wants to
risk going between city lines, you know, like if unless
you knew the rules for each city that you pass
through what to do. But it's remarkable you'll find that

(02:51):
almost nobody is doing that. But here in Atlanta it's
the opposite. It's almost that, you know, you can't count
the number of people between you know, the office here
in my house, how many I'll see that? Have you know,
the phone up in the either ten or two position
on the steering wheel texting while they're driving. That's how
bad it is here so well, and they can be
pulled over. Welcome to Atlanta, where red lights are a

(03:13):
break time for your phone. My point in all of this,
I guess you know now that we're five minutes into
this thing or whatever, is that I wanted to point
out this and and I hope that uh, somebody else
can maybe do the same thing, because I feel this
is only right. I've been taking advantage of those people
in traffic, ben I've been. I've been. I've been using
that to my advantage, um for a long time now,
and I figured I just mentioned it now, is that

(03:35):
you know, it's stop lights and things, and you can
tell when somebody is texting, you know, in a stoplight
line or a stop side or whatever. There's usually a
long gap before they look up and realize that everybody
has gone on through the light without them. You know,
it's two feet or whatever. Um, that's a perfect advantage.
You can jump into those spots anytime. So I've been
doing that in all kinds of stop and go traffic
in the morning, when I'm you know, driving on the expressways,

(03:57):
when you know it's again bumper to bumper traffic, people
people texting are the trend is leaving more and more
open space on the highway. If you can find those
people that are doing that, and then you can get
in front of them. The problem then, however, is that
you have in the back of your mind that person
is texting and driving, and are they gonna pay attention?
Are they gonna run into the back end of my car?
And you just hope that somebody else does the same thing.

(04:18):
So I just wanted to know if other listeners have
been doing the same thing and like, you know, kind
of praying on the people that are texting and driving
and traffic, you know, like taking advantage of the open
road that's left behind. You know, I have, Yeah, I have.
I'll be honest, because even if someone just has a
reasonable dash mountain, they're using ways or some other GPS service,

(04:43):
I will I have done it before, not necessarily cut
them off to take advantage of the open space. I'm
not saying cut off. I'm saying that, you know, if
it just it just presents itself, you know that you
know there's that stoplight that's the four way stop, and
you know you can't turn left and let's you know,
you have to yield on green right. Think it's more
of yeah, I think it's more um For me. It's

(05:03):
more of going with the flow of traffic, which they
have chosen not to participate it. That's a good way
to put it. Yeah, but it does offer up these
opportunities that weren't there, say, five years ago. UM, And
I don't know. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
I just want to know if everybody has kind of
seen the same trend where they live, but we see
it here anyways. Okay, so that's way off topic from
what we're talking about, but let us let us know. Yeah,

(05:25):
I'd love to know that so UM or some extreme
examples that again not not really cutting people off or
anything or being a jerk about it, but just just
you know, again using the using the situation your advantage.
All right, So we were talking about um customer r
vs and some crazy things that we've seen recently, because
you came to me with this idea, and I would
guess I'm gonna I'm gonna take a wild guess here,

(05:45):
but you probably saw one in particular that you had UM,
maybe maybe you saw something that you had never seen
before in r V. Is that right? Yes, you are correct,
my friend as usual? So what did you see? I
found this thing called the Night Seen seventy one star
Streak motor home and it is Griganto and I'll show
you just another picture here. You know what, I know

(06:08):
this vehicle. Yeah, I have seen this. I've posted this
vehicle on our Facebook page. I think that might be
where I found it. Maybe maybe it's months and months ago,
but I love that vehicle. It's a it's a custom
built r V right. Yeah, it's built on a Toronado chassis,
the nine. Because you know there's the second version in
seventy six. Well, people have to look this thing up. Yeah,
the seventy six version is the one that they built

(06:30):
on a Cattillac Chess. Now the Toronado would be a
front wheel drive if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, it's kind
of interesting for a giant vehicle like that. That's that's
pretty uncommon. But you have to you have to see
this thing to understand how cool it is. Really. Yeah,
the guy, the guy who built this is engineer, so
he knew what he's doing when he built both of these.
He built them by himself at home. He had Uh

(06:56):
it's weird because he built up you know, he built
a car up from the chassis or built the vehicle
and uh, he used a well there's plenty wide enough
that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Uh. The second one, the uh,
the Cadillac chassis right, Cadillac El Dorado nineteen seventy six,

(07:16):
and it was designed He designed both of these vehicles
to fit in a standard residential garage door. But they
like just barely figured. Are you kidding me? Looking at
those things, you would never guess they would fit in
the garage. I bet they're scraping the top. They must say.
You know what he when he says standard, it's probably
his garage, you know, whatever that is. He used that

(07:37):
as the standard because it seems like, you know, you
get anything bigger than like a small pickup truck anymore,
and it won't fit in a garage, it seems. Anyways,
they put over a hundred thousand miles on the first one,
but before you know, they donated this um to the
California Automobile Museum out in Sacramento, so you can go
check that out. Well, there's not too too much on

(07:58):
this one, but it got me thinking about, you know,
the strangest crazy strvs because people there's such a long
history of people building the custom vehicle of their dreams. Yeah,
and I know where the other one is. Where is it.
I'm gonna I'll tell you as we get to it,
but I'm pretty sure that I know where the other

(08:18):
one is. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure unless
it was like an on loan type thing to another museum,
but I will I'll dig into that in just a
minute here. But um, yeah, there there's some crazy vehicles.
And I knew that there was something that had to
have sparked your interest in this again, you know when
you're searching around and you find something like that, because
that's a that's a really that's an unbelievable example of

(08:39):
custom coachwork. You know, somebody that somebody's built something custom.
All these are custom of course that we're talking about,
every single one of them. And whether it's you know
the big type that is like a like a tour
bus almost you've seen those on the road, I'm sure
with you know, the toad vehicle behind and some even
have like a boat and a car behind, you know,
with like a two tier trailer thing. Uh, some really
cool setups. Um, they are extremely customizable. You can go

(09:02):
to a place that builds customer r vs, you know
how you can you can have them built from scratch,
you know, they start out with their their basic frame framework.
You know, whether it's um um, you know, the Prevost
Millennium model or you know, whatever it is, it's a
Volvo or a Liberty Coach or whatever. The manufacturers you
can go to them and have them custom build a
vehicle to the exact spects that you want. And we're

(09:24):
talking about if you haven't looked into this in a
in a while, and I mean the last maybe ten
years or so, take a look at some photos of these,
because they're almost like luxury homes inside. You can get
you can get all the stone work done that you want.
You can have any kind of fabric that you want,
the window coverings, all the all the entertainment system, yeah,

(09:45):
and the guy lights, yeah, the master bathrooms and you
know how many how many people it sleeps. You know,
that's that's part of it as well, because um, you know,
there are a lot of different considerations you have to take,
UM when you're when you're creating something like this, because
you want it to be uh something typically for you,
something that's custom built for you. Because they're not cheap either.
That's the other thing too, We need to talk about

(10:05):
a price. UM. I've often guessed at what some of
these things cost is they're rolling down the road, and
I'm way off on the prices, apparently because I looked
into some used ones recently, and not not because I'm
gonna buy, but because of this podcast. So I looked
into some of those giant um I think it's pronounced provost.
I hope I'm pronouncing that right, p R E V
O S T Provost. And those are the big bus

(10:28):
type ones and the really custom coach looking ones, the
ones that are like um, big tour buses that you
see for modern bands going across the country, but they
make um, you know, RVs for individuals as well, if
you want to buy one. And I looked at one
that was, oh my gosh, ben it was used, it
was ten years old, and it was pretty nice inside.
It still looked really good, but ten years old, yeah

(10:52):
to a degree, and you know, it's got significant miles
on it because they're used for traveling across country. Four
hundred thousand dollars was about the low end of the
ones that I found. Four hundred thousand for a ten
year old Provost bus that um, you know, and that's
again again there's a range here. You know, it could
be three sixty five thousand, It could be could be
eight hundred thousand, depends on what's inside that fan, you know,

(11:15):
or the the r V. Rather, the one I found
was kind of like the middle of the road, you know,
look pretty nice inside, had medium mileage and I don't
remember exactly what the mileage was, but it was high. Um.
But it's really it's it's unbelievable. Keep saying that it's
unbelievable what you can get inside these those things are
like apartments, man, Yeah, the stuff, I mean, they have

(11:36):
living rooms. That's bizarre to me. Yeah, And you know,
the limitation, I guess would be that you're you're limited
to a certain extent to the width of a of
a highway lane. You know, whatever the width of a
of a standard highway lane is. Is how why these
buses are. Of course, some of them have these pop
out extensions. They can fold out for you know, sleeping
quarters or you know whatever, just more room in general

(11:57):
when you're in them. It gives you a better feel inside. Um,
but you're limited withwise and that's what It's. One thing
that I wanted to bring up during this podcast too,
is that, um, you know, inside. To me, they have
kind of the feel of it like a luxury yacht almost,
you know, like those old photos of old luxury yachts.
But the thing was is that with a lot with
a luxury yacht, you can go almost as wide as

(12:19):
you want. You don't have to. You're not restricted to
lane with you're restricted to maybe you know the uh
you know, the the the dock space, I guess the
bay that you're gonna fall into. But yeah, maybe some
structural stuff about seaworthiness, but there's nothing, I mean that
really doesn't matter because you can just park that somewhere
else in the marina if you have to. It's not
like you have to adhere to uh, you know, national
standards in order to make this thing work on the road.

(12:42):
But but honestly, like if if you've got a forty
ft long apartment that's two stories tall in some cases, um,
you know, you can cram a lot of stuff into there,
some really interesting stuff too. And as you said, they
have custom uh custom kitchens, they have customer living rooms,
sleeping areas. Yeah, they have captain's chairs, they have um,

(13:02):
you know, anything you can find in a house really
is is there on a smaller scale maybe no. And
of course we'll say this is not about r V culture.
Uh And I myself am at best decades away from
actually buying an RV if I ever did. I think
what I would like to do is take a trip
in one with someone else, you know what I mean,

(13:23):
like road trip like rent one maybe maybe or if
they own one. Is that what you're saying, Yeah, maybe
bum a ride somebody's familiar with it. I'll to be
like the cook. Yeah, I'll be crew on an RV
because some of these are big enough where you have
to think, like, what do they have a crew? If
you know, it almost feels that way, like somebody would
have to maintain this, and I would bet that, you know,

(13:43):
the downtime is also expensive, you know, like hating things
maintained and and keeping them in condition to be used. Again,
Let's say it's let's say it's three months in between
your next you know, when you came home and your
next trip. There are things that you'd have to do
to get that ready. And I would guess that a
lot of people that own the really big ones, you know,
the million dollar h you know rings, are the ones that, um,

(14:04):
you know, they can have them professionally maintained. I would
think I would. I would guess you would do that.
You take it to the fact of the manufacturer and
have them do that and have it ready for your
next trip or it's your baby and you spend those
three months working on it. Well, yeah, if you're retired,
you might be able to do that. You might have
to have the time to be able to you know,
fix whatever you want to. And I think that's probably
um the case for a lot of people is that
they're they're do it yourselvers, you know, even though they're

(14:25):
they're they're working on these million dollar rigs. So Scott,
you and I looked into it, looked into this before
and and we're constant like off air, we end up
trading a lot of different lists, you know, like what
are the um best performance cars under stuff like that,

(14:45):
uh too, really crazy things like, um, what's what are
the largest engines in the world? And this idea of
craziest RVs. You know. One inspiration was the nineteen seventy
one Star Street But the original inspiration for me, uh

(15:05):
for for a long time actually, even before you and
I started working on this show together, was this thing
called the surface orbiter. Have you heard about this? No,
not the surface Dobberton surface orbiter. I'm gonna I'm gonna
show you just how do you spell Dobberton d O

(15:27):
B B E R T I N. Okay. So it
looks like this. It looks like something out of Flash Court.
Yeah it does. It's all chrome, it's uh, it's got
it's amphibious. It's got six large tires and then six
spares on the top. I know what it reminds me
of now, But you know those like and let's say

(15:48):
in Scooby Doo or something, they're gonna have a boring machine,
you know that that like tunneling vehicle. Yeah, it has
a very pointed end. It looks like a drill bit almost.
That's what that looks like to me. Well, this, the
body is nineteen fifty nine stainless steel milk tanker. The
guy who built it this is this is pretty interesting.
His name is Rick Dobbertson. He was born in Madison,

(16:09):
Wisconsin in nineteen fifty two. His dad worked for g M. A. C.
And so he was always into designing, engineering and several
several things like this. He designed two hot rods on
his own. Uh back in the eighties. You know, he

(16:30):
probably grew up seeing the old air stream trailers as well,
you know, the silver air stream trailers. That probably had
some influence on him. So this thing, the Dobberton Service
at orbiter thirty two ft long, made from stainless steel.
He wanted to circumnavigate the Earth over it with land
and sea without any type of support vessel. Wait wait

(16:50):
wait wait wait, land and sea. Yeah, so this is
something that's an amphibious vehicle. Yeah, I would never guess
that's amphibious looking at that. Maybe are there portholes on
the side maybe, uh, maybe that would indicate that it's amphibious.
I don't know, No, I think just the just the
structure itself from the cockpit would be fair to call it.
On this it reminds me of like a big tundra
type vehicle or something you like, really high up and

(17:12):
it's got big wheels and just you see, it doesn't
seem like it's amphibious. You can go to the website
and see pictures of it cruising your lakes in the Atlantic.
In the Atlantic. The guy's crossing the Atlantic and that
thing thirty thousand miles on land three thousand miles at
sea way yep, and uh. He said that he encountered
rough waters as well. Well, I can imagine after you know,

(17:33):
across train across the Atlantic, you're gonna encounter rough waters. Yeah,
no kidding, but but this is not This was featured
on Japanese television, is featured on US TV two. I think, uh.
And you can read the you can read the specs
and how he built this on his um on his

(17:54):
website and how he made this thing actually float and
actually work. Because a lot of people have that dream,
like circumnavigating the globe. You hear it most often with
someone saying, you know, I want to take my boat,
my my yacht or whatever, or or a vehicle and
they're gonna ferry the vehicle, you know, across the bodies
of water they can't drive through, of course, but this

(18:16):
guy wants to do the whole thing in one vehicle, right,
which I'm sure, I'm sure it's been done before. I'm
just saying that thing. I mean, you'd never guess that
that thing would make it really, I mean, it looks
cool and everything, but it doesn't look like it would
stand up to and around the world trip right. Uh so,
it's just my first impression. It's fascinating, you know. I
think he ended up going I mean, he ended up

(18:38):
going at least twenty eight countries to continents, but he
also didn't stop there. He also built another thing called
the hydro car. Uh. He launched the project in two
thousand two, and as of let's see, I didn't follow
up on who owns it now, but in two thousand

(19:00):
eleven he was selling it on eBay for seven hundred
seventy seven thousand dollars. It looks nice man, hydrocr okay,
uh and uh, I just say that because he's still
building stuff. I know it's not exactly an RV. The
surface Orbiter is way closer. As of two thousand eleven,
the surface Orbiter belonged to a guy named Chuck Parsons,
Chicago area car collector, who bought it in two thousand four.

(19:23):
That's got to be on display somewhere for an undisclosed
price for Okay, I wonder, I wonder. I don't know. Yeah,
but this and these are just like two examples of
one offs. These are not These are not anywhere near
the world's most expensive. No, no, And I think I have.
I've probably seen a few of the world's most expensive

(19:43):
not in person, but I mean on on some of
the sites that I've gone to. Because the the luxury
interiors that I'm trying to describe, which I don't know,
I don't know if I'm even coming to the word
is opulated. Yeah, that's it. I mean some of the
let's say that you have a custom kitchen in an
RV and to add some extra glamour to the whole thing,
they say that they've got, you know, swart Ski that's

(20:04):
how you pronounce that. I guess the Swartsky crystals. Yeah,
I think that's it. Yeah. That like the door handles
or the drawer handles, I guess on these cabinets are
of the of those crystals. Uh, you know when like
different color gemstones and stuff. You know, it's like that's
that's the kind of level of detail that they're talking
about here and again granite countertops and marble, handcut wooden flooring. Yeah,
that's right. Yeah, marble and handcut wooden flooring, and um.

(20:26):
You know one thing that I found this is this
is really interesting to me. I never really thought about this,
but in a lot of these custom r vs. The
big ones. You'll rarely find a bathtub, and that's probably
with good reason. I would guess that. You know, it
would be a difficult thing to do to take a
bath if you're moving anyways, which is highly dangerous. But
it takes up so much space. That's the reason. Yeah,

(20:47):
I think usually they have. It goes back to space restrictions,
like you say, because usually they would have maybe a
showering facility. Yeah, they well, they almost always have a
shower versus having a bathtub. So that's one thing that
you would have to give up, a creature comfort that
you'd have to give up if you're on the road
in your r V unless you had one again custom
made with the bathtub, knowing that you're giving up a

(21:07):
lot of space for that bathtub. It also reminds me
of the the tiny house movement, you know about those guys, Yeah,
I do. We've had a few of those visit here
in our building, right, I mean they've they've pulled a
few on their property and a lie you to walk
around inside them in exchange for a wet a certificate,
for got an ice cream cone or something inside they

(21:27):
get they drop, you know at tension, but um, Yeah,
they're there. The tiny house movement is really I I
would say that it's kind of waning at this point,
don't you think. I think part of it is depends
on what part of the country you're in, but it's
maybe it's not getting as much mainstream attention. The reason
I bring it up is because, while they are two
very different endeavors, the idea of space management is um

(21:52):
is a priority in both of those. It's almost identical, right,
I mean, uh, in that you have to create a
living space that you're comfortable in for more than you know,
an overnight stay somewhere, you know, just like like maybe
a pop up camper would be. You're creating more of
a home environment. Yeah. I stayed in the tiny house
thing in Nashville the last time I was the last
time I was there, and from an engineering perspective and

(22:15):
a design perspective, I was profoundly impressed. I had no
idea you had done this. Is this? Was it like
a community of tiny houses or what. No, it's just
this one and on this lady's property, just like a
rental thing. Yeah, and it was pretty cool, man. I
think I could live in one of those by myself.
That's pretty interesting. If I lived with another person, we'd

(22:38):
have to be very uh, we would have to be
like married or something, well, super compatible, super compative, you
couldn't have any disagreements. But but well that's that's and
so you can't have a shower there and you can't
have I'm glad you brought up tiny homes too, because
a lot of people have done this where they're they're
towing their tiny home on a trailer and calling at like, Uh,

(23:00):
well it's not really an RV really, but it's similar,
you know, and the principle I guess behind it is
the same as what you're talking about, you know, where
you can't have certain things. You have to um carefully
plan every inch of your space for maximum use. Yeah.
And so these despite their opulence, uh, and there very

(23:21):
high end. Uh a coutra mall. I think we can
go French at that point. Uh, They're they're very high end.
Uh different bells and whistles, they still have the same
restrictions on space. So what do you say, Scott, what
are some of the craziest RVs that you've seen? Well,
I've seen some that have of course, you know, I
guess it's interesting idea to me that they would have

(23:44):
um sleeping quarters for as many as like twelve people,
you know, that you could you could take um it's
almost like the idea behind the old sleeper cars and
trains really um that you know, you're stacked almost like
uh and not quite as bad as this, but you know,
like in a submarine where you're like on one on
top of the they're bumps, you know, really really tight.
It's not quite that bad. It's more it again is
more like a sleeper car for a train. UM. But

(24:06):
I think to me, some of the most impressive ones
that I've seen are the ones that have um like
a theme to them. Yeah, Like if you you're particularly
fond of a specific region in the United States or
in the world or wherever, you could kind of you know,
build this themed vehicle around uh, you know that that region,
whether it's you know, the native woods of the area,
or it's the artwork or you know, whatever it happens

(24:27):
to be. UM. It's it's kind of an interesting idea.
But you know what, before we we talk about more
themed vehicles, maybe let's take a work. They can break
for a work from our spots and we're back Scott,
I've got one, all right. Okay, there's one called the

(24:50):
wood Wagon, which some people are not gonna find very impressive,
but it's definitely thematic. And you mentioning native woods made
me think of this. It's built on a nineteen thirty
nine Ford Forestry truck chassis. Uh, but it's been described
by its critics as a rolling tinder box. It has
a shingled roof of wooden door. Uh. It's recommended to

(25:13):
get when you go completely insane. Oh boy, but it's
you know, it's it's super old school. It's made to
the camper part is made to look as if it
is a rustic cabin or log. It looks like a log.
It looks like a log. It looks like a Lincoln
log with a door in a window. Giant log. It's
kind of crazy. And it's built on an old truck chassis,

(25:33):
and the the actual cab of the truck is separate
from the from the camper, so you'd have to exit
the truck to enter the cabin. That's that's it. Yeah,
you're right. So there's there's no ease of access between
the two. They're like there is in the modern RV, right,
because um, you know, I wonder that too. I also
I often wonder how much fun is it for the
guy driving the RV really, I mean, I think everybody

(25:55):
else is having a much better time in that r V,
oh yeah, than the drive. And I've kind of out
that way about custom vans all along too, you know that,
you know, it might be fun to drive for a while,
but the people in the back are the ones having
all the fun. You know, they're in the they're in
the swivel seats, they're you know, they're drinking their dirt,
you know, playing games, whatever they're doing or whatever. I
don't want to let's not go down this road. I

(26:15):
just they're doing whatever they are doing back there. But
it's they're having more fun than the driver, absolutely, And
that's what that makes me think. This is off topic,
but that makes me wonder if r vs, luxury r
vs are going to be some of the first to
pick up autonomous vehicle technology. Oh yeah, well, would that
be an interesting idea? And then you could just drive
in this great big party bus, right yeah, But if everybody,

(26:38):
if every human drive human possible driver there is drinking
or something, then that ideas could put you'd still have
to have someone be the d d well right now,
you would you have to have someone sit sit there
even if they're not driving. Things are changing so fast
then that it's gonna happen. And that's okay. That's another
thing we keep, you know, branching off into different things.
This is what makes it fun is that. Um. I

(27:01):
often wonder about the seat belt rules and these two
because I believe there's probably a seat belt rule that
they're they're supposed to be buckled in you know during well,
the vehicles in motion. But I wonder how often that
is uh, that's you know, it's kind of pushed to
the side. Yeah. Um, I would bet that happens a lot,
you know, because you can get well, why not if
you can start making you know, the sandwich is before
you get to the picnic area, and why would you

(27:21):
do that, you know, why not before you get to
the Yeah, yeah, you know you need to get the
you know, the flotation devices ready for when you get
to the the lake or whatever. I bet that really
depends on each vehicle, you know, like the family or
the people. And yeah, and also I mean how possible
is it? I mean how stable do you really feel
in there when you're going down the road at sixty
five or seventy miles an that's that's and and again

(27:44):
if something happens, man, you're in bad shape because you're
flying across a room, you know, instead of just contacting
the dash. You know, if you're buckled in or whatever,
it could be really really bad. And how far should
these go? Because there's almost a session in the minds
of some people with building the most extravagant, outrageous thing,

(28:06):
just like the just like the custom vans we talked
about in Japan. Like here's here's another example. This is
called the castle on wheels. Look at that. It looks
like a church. It has a two story part and uh,
and it's built on it's built to be hauled by
a Peter belt. It's Peter built three seventy nine. And
then just a custom built house. But it looks like

(28:28):
you can't turn on on it. It looks like you
can't really take it anywhere other than straight. And one
of the questions about this is at what point should
you just get a real house and a separate car.
But it's not mobile. It's not mobile. But look is
this thing mobile? It's it's questionably mobile. It's semi mobile.

(28:51):
It's a very good good Wait I just got that.
Hey that's true. Now, I guess, I guess you know,
they're they're probably still restrictions on these things, you know,
the maximum length and width and height of court of course,
to be able to travel on the on the freeways.
But um, yeah, that one. To me, it doesn't look
like you can make a make a ninety degree turn
with that thing anywhere. It doesn't. It seems a bit frivolous,

(29:13):
I guess in a way, right. I mean, it's like
you just can't do a whole lot with it. It's
not as functional as another RV would be if you
were to have something that was maybe a little bit
more team in appearance. But then again, that's probably got
a lot of features that maybe you can't get in
something else because the size and that that might be it.
You know, Ben, we talked about we've talked about some
of these crazy you know, one offs and stuff, but

(29:34):
there have been versions of this that are um not
not quite as extravagant for a long long time too.
And that's like old band busses, right, they sell them
on the same site. So if you go to an
RV site, you know, for motor homes or whatever. For campers.
They sell band busses and they tend to sleep a
lot of people, like you know the twelve sleeper or
the six sleeper that that bunks and they have a
small kitchen area with the dyning with a dining table

(29:58):
and maybe like a little loungerry that you can hang
out in with a couch or something like that. It's
like a small version of it. It's definitely not as plush,
and it's a lot more like an old bus, like
a like a tour bus or like a team bus
or something. And I think those work for people because there, um,
you know, if you're in a band situation, earning touring situation,
then you are spending the majority of your time in

(30:22):
that vehicle, so you it makes sense for it to
become like an apartment. But it's still small quarters for
twelve people. Well sure is. And you know, there's even
some other versions of this that I want to talk
about a moment, but let's take a break for a
word from our sponsor and we're back, and I wanted

(30:46):
to mention another type of um, I don't know if
you can call it an r V or not. It's
not really in r V, but it kind of gets
lumped in with them too. These are like, um, you
can call them house cars, I guess, and it's house cars.
And the earliest example I could find it this was
some from someplace that we want to talk about in
just a moment. So maybe we should talk about that
place first and then we'll get to this vehicle. It's

(31:09):
a roundabout way to get to this, isn't it. This
is from the RV and Motor Home Hall of Fame,
which has also another branch of that's called um like
called the r V Founders Hall. So the r V
Hall of Fame is in Elkhart, Indiana, and it's a
it's a great, big campus. I mean, you can park
your giant RV there and and go in and see this.

(31:30):
But the RV Hall of Fame has been around since
nineteen seventy seven, I believe, and I'm sorry, nineteen seventy two.
And in nineteen seventy two they inducted you know, the
first class of people that you know, they thought were
um um I guess, deemed um part of the yeah,
influential or somehow part of the history of the r
V movement historically signify which goes back a long, long way,

(31:53):
and that gets to the vehicle that I want to
talk about in just a moment. But this r V
Hall of Fame is UM again. It's maintenance over four
hundred members today and there's kind of like a wall
of fame that you can go see and UM they've
got this great library with like twenty thousand industry publications
that you can go and take a look at. So
if you're really into r vs, this is a place
to go in Elkhart, Indiana. There's more to it than that.

(32:15):
For the for the Hall of Fame, but that's the
one where they actually induct members. The thing that maybe
would interest most people, would be UM in our audience anyways,
would be the RV Founders Hall. And the RV Founders
Hall is a display of trailers and photographs and memorability
that goes back all the way in the nineteen twenties
and nineteen thirties, and it's open to the public, so
you can go and look at this kind of this

(32:36):
big museum that presents in a chronological and technological advanced way.
I guess in a chronological manner. The technological advances that
were made in RVs and motor homes. UM that that
range from really right after World War One all the
way to present day. So they've got a lot of things.
And the one that I wanted to talk to you about, Bend,

(32:56):
now we're finally getting to it is a vehicle call
the house car, and it's in particular it's May West's
nineteen thirty one Chevrolet house car. And I'll show you
a photograph out here. It's this blue vehicle in the corner.
Anybody can look this up. It's not really in r V,
it's not really a motor home. It's more of a
UM like a like a luxury vehicle that she could

(33:19):
relax in on the way to the studio. The studio
bought this vehicle as a way to uh, you know,
get you know, May West, who was a Miss West
as they call her, was a um an actress, and
it was a way to get her between um Paramount
studios and her home. And so they would they would
shuttle her back and forth in this uh this this
comfort coach or this uh this this house car so

(33:42):
that she could arrive, you know, well rested and ready
to go. I thought that was pretty interesting, and we've
seen other vehicles like that. When we were at the A. C. A. Museum,
we saw a vehicle it was a I think it
was a piercing yeah, for the studio. Yeah, one with
the silver wheels. Yes, that's right, and tennessee on that
out of a tough time with that silver wheel. We

(34:04):
all do it occasionally, right, But yeah, they had created
these uh um, this this different kind of class of
vehicles that was meant for extreme, extremely luxurious trips to
and from the studios. Like if you lived up in
the Hollywood Hills, you would ride into the studio and
again you would be ready to go when you got
on setter, you'll be at least well rested, and that
you know, worn out from this exhausting trip in these

(34:24):
nineteen twenties and nineteen thirties cars. So I thought this
was an interesting thing. And the founders Hall, I'm gonna
say it, man, I believe I checked out there. They
have an inventory UM tab and I think that that
is where I saw the nineteen seventy six Cadillac version
of the UM you know, the early one you mentioned
you said the star Streak was the nineteen seventy one

(34:45):
version of the customer r V. I believe the nineteen
seventies six Cadillac is in this Founder's Hall exhibit. If not, um,
I think it was a rental maybe like a loner
vehicle R Yeah, I'll check out that tab again because
I was looking at last night, and they've got a
little bit of everything. You walk down this uh this
roadway UM in in this Founder's Hall and it kind

(35:06):
of takes you, as they say, you know, it's like
a road back into time where they go back, you know,
from different pop up type campers and early vehicles that
look more like tents on wheels really, And I think
they even have a Model T version there that there's
one that's built on a Model T that has more
than anything. It's like just a tent on top of it,
but it's got a bunch of pullout drawers that were
custom made. And that's kind of like the early early

(35:28):
version of this. And then later on they go into
some vehicles that were restored by the manufacturers that built them.
So if they have significant, significant vehicles that were built
by say Winnebago, Winnebagol would be in charge of the
restoration of that vehicle, so you know that it's spot
on restoration. It's exactly right. And you know, like there's
the Fleetwood Pace arrow, and there's um uh you know,

(35:48):
pop up trailers, and there's the g MC motor home.
You know, like the classic version of the Boundary, you
know it was there, um you know, the prototype that
they made for Pounder. So all kinds of stuff in
this museum. And I know it may not sound super
interesting to everybody in the audience, but it's kind of
one of those things that I feel like if you
went to see it, you would probably be enthralled by

(36:08):
it and more interested than you thought, um a lot
in the way that uh, you know we we kind
of felt maybe the same way about the bus exhibit
at the A c. A. You know, it's like, well,
it's it's interesting. You got a bunch of busses downstairs.
Maybe we can just stay up here and look at this,
But we do went down and looked at them, and
they ended up being one of the most fascinating parts
of that museum to me. To me, yeah, I mean

(36:31):
it's really really cool. And it's not that I didn't
want to see them or anything. It's just we were
tight on time. And when our tour guide said, you know,
let's go take a look at this, we thought, well, okay,
they we'll go look and see, but we've probably spent
a few minutes down there. It turned out we were.
We actually got really excited by it because what we
found down there, it was amazing. So these busses and
r vs and everything, if you give them a chance,
if you go and really see them and you know, um,

(36:53):
maybe read some of the history about them, Uh, they're
probably more interesting than you think. Yeah, because they came
from a time when the majority of interstate travel I guess,
with the majority of trips that people would normally use
a plane for, we're accomplished by not cars necessarily, but
commercial buses. Yeah. Yeah. And so the buses then had

(37:16):
a pretty luxurious interior. I mean there's a lot of space.
They were you know, maybe velvet seats that had arm rests,
and they had foot rests and stuff. And then they
have people. They had people who functioned as stewards or
stewardesses yea, and they had like wood planks on the
floors in between them, and it was just really like
it was really well done. And they had a lot
of space up ahead, you know, overhead for yeah, I mean,

(37:37):
and for for bags and things like that too. There's
plenty of room in there. It was just it was
a really interesting experience, and I just have to feel
I kind of feel the same way that this RV
museum would be the same way if you went we
were to go and explore it. I think that most people,
you know, taking it face value, they would think like,
I don't really want to go, But once you're in there,
I think you would be excited by it. Well yeah, then, plus,

(38:00):
who can resist a good museum on any kind of vehicle? Well,
that's true, and I would guess that they've got some
modern examples too. If you want to check out some
of these luxury coaches, and if not, if you know,
if nothing else, check them out in the parking lot,
because you know that everybody that's stopping there is going
to have one, right, they're gonna have, you know, a
million dollar machine outside or two million dollar machine, because
we don't we haven't really said that. There's some that

(38:20):
break the two million dollar mark on this on the ease,
and those are the ones that you know are over
the top of the decorating and the materials that are
used inside. You know, it's very they're very opulent. And
I have the lounge areas you know, to make business
deals or whatnot. The r vs of ICs, which is true.
They are the RVs of of chiks in the Middle East.
That's true. Yeah, that happens as well. So, oh my god,

(38:43):
can we just talk about this one? Yeah sure, I'm
so okay. This is the one that blows my mind.
Is called the Marchie Mobile Element with two capital ms Palazzo. Okay,
I can't I'm lost. What is it? It's this wol
oh wow, it's that's crazy. Two point five to three

(39:05):
million dollars and uh. The easiest way to spot this
one if you do a search, is that it has
a circular windshield. Yeah. Uh here, I'm going to while
I tell you a little bit about this. You know,
let this uh animation play for you, Scott. And this
is something that people can look up at home when
you're not driving. So what you get for this is

(39:28):
essentially a transformer. It has a It has an upper
deck that launches up out of the vehicle to create
seating at the top, a staircase that drops down. It
is of of course insanely customizable. Uh. And it has
also those slide out sections where people sleep. It looks

(39:51):
like somebody smacked the a UFO on the front end
of the vehicle. This does look like a yacht, doesn't
exactly like it has a lot of island of a
modern yacht. And when you're describing that as a transformer,
that's exactly what it does. That that upper deck the yeah,
I guess you called a full deck, right, because sides
fold up to make a make a railing, and then

(40:12):
an entire couch area like a seating area pops up
out of the out of the floor. It's unbelievable. Plus
a canopy on top of that. It's amazing. It's really
cool how this thing, this thing transforms. But for a
three million dollars, maybe that's what you expect to happen.
It is the most expensive recreational vehicle, uh, that has
ever been on sale. I don't know. I mean, I

(40:32):
guess it's you know, subject to taste. But I wouldn't
call this a beautiful vehicle because I think it's very functional.
I bet it's it seems like it's very aerodynamic, like
maybe they had that in mind when they designed it
um to to a point. I guess that wind shields
off a weird. It seems more like, you know, when
there's a very high class art museum or something and

(40:53):
they get an architect to just make something memorable looking. Yeah,
it looks kind of like that. Yeah, I kind of agree.
I don't know how er dynamic it is. And I
see you more as uh, I see I've got I
think I've got a vehicle you like more. What's that?
I think you're more of a feather Light Vantaire Platinum
plus mail boy. Okay, what's this? Oh wow? Because for

(41:14):
only two point five million dollars, Scott, you can get
an RV that functions like a Class A r V.
So it looks, you know, like one of those commercial
touring buses, but with the add advantage of adding of
of stowing a sports car of your choice in the
undercarriage and just taking it with you between the wheels.

(41:35):
Between the wheels, see your park on. It looks like
a platform that that slides off from between the wheels
and on the passengers side, and you, uh, you drive
onto that platform and then I guess it just pulls
it back inside and causes the flap and you're on
your way right, and that keeps it nice and low
and covered and inside that's really nice. That's pretty slick.
I like those. You know what. The other thing, I've
seen this on a couple of other if you look

(41:57):
up the same example, you know on your own, um,
you know, the the mirrors that stick out the front
there look like antenna almost four ears that are bent
down in the front. I've seen that on a lot
of custom vans, are busses, I suppose recently. It's an
interesting idea. It's a it's a weird look and I
guess it kind of like a like a bug appearance almost.
It's a weird look, but it's it's also necessary because
of all those blood spots. Again, it's just enormous. Would

(42:18):
love to ride in them, but would not really want
to drive it. I mean, it's a huge brick on wheels, really,
and you know, we haven't boy, I don't even know
if I've I've got a number here for you. But
I wonder what miles per gallon is in that or
is it gallons per mile? Because you know they have
they have enormous engines. Of course, they have enormous engines.

(42:38):
I think for the element the marchie that I mentioned earlier. Uh,
I think it's probably around a thousand bucks to fill
the gas tank. Yeah, yeah, so it's a lot like
a Yeah again, so giant giant tanks because you're gonna
go long distances and these things, and they're likely a
lot of them are diesel of course, um, so you'll
find a lot of diesel technology and them so they
have enough torque to be able to pull you know,

(43:01):
these things uphill if you're traveling in the mountains or
mountainous regions. Um. But man and also pollint you're pulling
a trailer of course, you know that could be another vehicle,
or could be a boat, or could be a vehicle
and a boat. That Vantaire Platinum for instance, the gas
tank is two thirty five gallons two or thirty five
gallons at today's price. Let's say it's the ballpark at
to fifty something like that. That's a lot of money.

(43:22):
I'm not going to do the math. That's a lot
of money. Um. And take something like that over to
Europe where it's you know, the gases by the leader
by the leader and it's six dollars or whatever. It is.
You know, it's crazy, so um becomes even less affordable
or even more of a luxury. Maybe that's why you
should look at it, you know, that's right. You know,
if if you're tooling around and something like this, that's
a that's definitely a luxury. But I think people who

(43:44):
get these aren't especially stressing the cost of gas. No, No,
I don't think so I'm just gonna go out a limit.
I would think. So what, uh, what do you have
on the docket? Did you find anything that just blew
you away? Uh? Nothing in particular now, because I mean
I was I was looking at the Prevo site and
all of the variants that they sell on their used

(44:07):
site because I was interested in the used ones because
the pricing and the new ones, I know, are you know, outlandish.
I was trying to find something that you know, I
could relate to our listeners and maybe you to look
forward to an retirement or something. Uh, you know, but
the four d dollar mark that's still pretty high for
a lot of people. You know that, Well, that's I
guess if you consider that that's selling your home and
hitting the road for you know, a year at a time. Um,

(44:28):
maybe it's affordable. I don't know. Yeah, and not for everybody,
but it's for some people. Yeah, it's definitely not for everybody,
but it may be uh, something that is right for you.
I want to hear from people who own an RV
and have had the experience, and also want to give
a shout out to our long time listener Rudy who
he cautioned you, who rightly cautioned me. And we said

(44:49):
this on air before, but I want to emphasize this
because he did pick up on me saying maybe I'm
just in love with the idea, and he told me
essentially what a what a pain in keyster RV lifestyle?
Well he had he had experienced as a child, Uh,
you know is camping in a renovated bus. I believe
it was that that you know, it's made into an
r V or a camper of some kind, and said,

(45:11):
it's not exactly what it's all cracked up to be,
right exactly? Wait is that right? See? I do this
every time with these things. Right, it's not it's not
what it's cracked up to be. Yeah, that's right, is
that right? Yeah? Oh I got one. You nailed it.
Knocked out of the park. Run maybe maybe we'll see
I'll look it up later. It's really one of the
easier ones. You got it. Uh So. Another thing that

(45:35):
I wanted to mention briefly while we're related to the
while we're while we're on this stage, is what are
called the earth roamers. The earth roamers are heavily modified
pickup truck chassiss with extended cabs that result in the
results in a pretty efficient but oddly spacious interior. And

(46:01):
they're also they describe themselves not as recreational vehicles, not
as r vs, but x vs, so expedition. It almost
looks like a like a like a pickup truck with
you know, a camper top that's put on the back,
only it's part of the body of the vehicle. Now
it's not really like just flopped on top of it,
so it becomes more of like one vehicle exactly, but

(46:25):
but interesting idea. It's very small, like again, it's just
like a small camper really, but they've made it into
more of an RV, I guess and that you can
and and maybe that's maybe it's not the right maybe
as a motor home, I don't know, as a stronger,
stronger engine as well, because it's on that because it's
on that pickup chassis. But you can see here videos

(46:47):
how it's joined. There's a lot of space in this thing. Yeah,
it's surprisingly well well used. Yeah, it really is. And
and the thing is, I think it looks like maybe
maybe this one that we're looking at is joined to
the cab so that you can access that in the front. Uh.
And that's the difference. I guess that's why I was
trying to startle with just a moment ago, like do
is that? I wonder if that's what makes it an
RV US a camper. Yeah, plopping something on the back

(47:11):
of a pickup truck and columnatic and an r V
can't really do that, I don't think. Yeah, I don't know.
And this one has solar panels and stuff like that,
water filtration system, so it's designed to be out in
the wild a little bit more than you know, many
typical r vs, which depends on a Falsett hook up
or something. Oh yeah, you have to have the utilities
at the prices that you go and make sure that

(47:32):
they've got the space for you and everything. This looks
like more like a like an adventure, you know, going
on a hunting trip or a canoe trip or something.
Remember when we looked at um, was it the modified
was that on a Unimog chassis, the unique hat or whatever,
that vehicle that's designed for expeditions the Sahara and other
desert environments. So I can't believe I can't remember the

(47:54):
name of this thing. The thing with the giant wheels, yeah, yeah,
the soft wheels, yeah, gigantic and soft. This uh, this
is crazy. I know this has been a little bit
of a potpourri or a mix of different recreational vehicles
and live in vehicles that we find fascinating. But Scott,

(48:15):
I just I did not know that the phrase land
yacht had a more appropriate thing. I always used it
as a joke about the big cars that I have
historically driven. Yeah, I guess so. I mean they're looking
more and more like yachts. Yeah, they really are starting
to look like, you know, the on the water yachts,

(48:37):
but but on the road. Um, I think everybody uses
the term land yat is like the you know, the
giant old vehicles that I think so too. Yeah, I
think most people are just way more likely to think
of like an oldsmobile when they say land yacht, yeah,
big Cadillac, yeah, long Cadillac yeah yeah, more than more
than r V. That looks like a yacht. But but

(48:58):
that's the way they're going. They are starting to look
a lot like the custom yachts. And uh, man, it's
just if you haven't looked at one. If you, I mean,
we've given you plenty of examples to look up now,
and I know that sometimes as maddening if you're in
your car or something, you if you write them down
or whatever, but or listen to this again maybe if
that's how painful that is. But um, but if you
if you want to, uh, you know, check out some

(49:18):
of the ones that we've we've pointed you to today
or maybe you know it show us some that you
found or some that are in your area. Like you know,
if you have one that's you know, someone who's a
local that has built something custom and really strange, really unique,
I would love to see it, because there's a lot
of examples of that out there too that you know,
people people build these things in their garage, um, you know,
for that one time, you know that one day when
they're going to retire and be able to you know,

(49:40):
maybe head out on the road for a couple of
months or something. Um, that's their dream, their bucket list,
you know, locations around the U S or whatever. Um,
but I would love to see some of the uh,
you know, the custom jobs that come from small towns
here and there. Yes, and Scott, I have to asked,
would you ever see would you ever see your you
and your family? Uh? Yours now? Uh being part of

(50:01):
that RV No, but I think you know, I like you,
I might like to try to rent one sometime and
uh and try it out. I definitely would not want
to just buy one and assume that that's going to work.
You know that. I think it's it's a dangerous game
to play. UM. But also, man, that'd be kind of strange.
I wonder what kind of training you'd have to have
in order to to rent some of these, Like I

(50:22):
would guess that, you know, for certain size vehicles, you'd
have to have a CDL license, you know, or that's redundant,
I know, but you have to have a CD I'll
have about that. Um, but yeah, you would. You would
probably have to have some type of training to drive
some of the bigger ones. I would think, um or
at least they should if they don't anyways, But I've
seen some smaller ones that are for rent and they
have you know, signs on the side that you know,

(50:43):
this vehicle is rented at. You know, they give the location. Um,
the idea is intriguing, but I don't know, you've maybe
had a better idea, is that you know, maybe just
kind of become frenzy with somebody that has one and
uh and and maybe go along that way. Or you know,
for the people who are especially um especially into an

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RV but not driving one, they would probably I'm sure
there's some company where they would hire somebody to drive
for them, which I wouldn't do. I think if you
if you're gonna get an RV, if you're gonna get
anything like that, you need to get at warts and all.
If you like it that much, you should be driving it.
I kind of put this in the same category with like,

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you know, those crazy custom house boats that they have
got a lot of reservoirs down here in the South
um and you know everywhere really anywhere there's a reservoir,
there's gonna be these giant custom house boats. You can
rent those for a week or a month or whatever
and just head out with the family and see how
it goes. I guess that's maybe a similar thing, right,
I mean, you're you're not on the open road. You're not,
you know, kind of restricted. You're restricted to the waterways.

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But um, you know, maybe that's your thing. You know,
I went through a phase where it was fascinated by
what are called canal boats in the United Kingdom of
you heard of these canal boats. Now, I seem like
I've I've seen one. Is it long, real, extremely thin,
with a cabinet exactly? Okay, yeah, And that's the thing
that got me was I was. I was captivated. I thought,
how could multiple people, you know, camp in one of these?

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It's almost like you you don't have enough space to
get by each other in there. They're so narrow, right,
that was my that was my question. You know, maybe
it's because we're used to more more room naturally here
or culturally. Is that something you've ever acted on? Did
you take a ride in one? Because they offer tours
and vehicles like that. I'm I'm planning to next time.

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I'm at that out that way if I can, if
I can get a good price, then you know, I'm
a chiefscape. But if I can get a good price
on a canal boat rental, then I'm gonna I'm gonna
try it out. But also, you know, uh, when when
we're talking about it's kind of recreational vehicle RV vehicle stuff,
you know, a lot of people end up inheriting these

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instead of purchasing them. And I my parents, just so
far as I know, don't own one, But that would
probably be the most likely way that I would run
into these. Now, do I want to befriend uh, you
know and Emirate uh in the Middle East to take
a take a ride with them in their three million
dollar mobile? Uh, It's just it's essentially a mobile uh palace,

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a palace, mobile palace, a mobile mini palace. Yeah, totally man.
Yeah for one maybe once, just just the once, just
to just to see how everything works, you know, because
you gotta face the facts. Eventually, it'd be really inconvenient
to live in these things. Oh yeah, at sure would.
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