Nuts and Bolts (Part 13)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Go behind the wheel, under the hood and beyond with
car stuff from House Stuff Works dot Com. Hi everybody,
I'm Scott and I'm Ben and this is part thirteen
of Nuts and Bolts. Now I can't hardly believe that
we're up in thirteen installments of this particular type of episode. Yes, yeah,

(00:22):
isn't this strange. This is a long running series of
ours that actually predates our time with the super producer
Noel Brown. All right, all right, you need some kind
of fan fair there, right, yeah, well you'll we'll fix
that in post. Right, He's not. And what we love
about Nuts and Bolts, for anyone who hasn't heard this before,

(00:43):
is that this is our opportunity to take all of
the listener mail that we might have not answered as
quickly as we like, all the stuff Scott sees, all
the back in my day things, all the little tidbits,
fascinating pieces of trivia and so and that we're not
just big enough for their own episode. And we were
just talking about this, and you know how we always

(01:04):
walk out of here with you know a lot of
extra notes, things that we never get to or we
just can't get to in that episode. You're far better
at this than I am about about keeping that somewhere
off the side and getting back to it. I have
a difficult time with the leftover notes from previous episodes,
so most of my stuff is gonna be listener mail
and maybe a couple of things that I see that
kind of thing. But um, you're better about saving stuff,

(01:26):
like you mentioned something from the Citron story, right. Oh yeah,
it's funny you mentioned that, because I'm not completely sure
that it's it's worth doing it. But I just want
to say in case we didn't mention it at the
end of the show, because that was a two part
episode for Scott in Andre Citron was inducted to the
Automotive Hall of Fame in Dearborn, Michigan. I don't remember

(01:50):
if we ended on that one. I'm not sure we
might have. Yeah, I have just some snippets of notes
that I'm not sure we got to. But even if
we did mention the induction into the Automotive Hall of Fame,
what we did not mention, I am fairly confident, is
the park Andre citro In, a public guard in Paris,

(02:10):
named after him in nineteen two. It was built on
the site of get this, uh, Scott the former automobile
manufacturing plant of citroan interesting and you know what, now
that we're talking about it, I do have one thing
that I need to clear up from that episode. What's that? Um?
I have a correction, a self correction. Remember we're talking
about a guy named Flemino BERTONI remember that. Oh yeah, Meno,

(02:32):
I think Flamino BERTONI. He's a designer, right, and he
is Citron designer for for decades, I believe, a long
long time. I was kind of going back and forth
between whether whether he was Italian or French, and um,
you know what was going on there. It turns out
he was born in Italy, so he's Italian, but he
died in France because he was working with Citron and

(02:54):
other other manufacturers as well as a designer at the time.
And so, um, a little confusion, but I thought I'd
cleared up anyway, So he's Italian officially, he is officially Italian.
So it's uh, it's interesting. As you guys can see,
every time that we do with nuts and bolts, we
start going through all this stuff, and what you might

(03:15):
hear is you might hear Scott and I going, oh,
one more thing. But don't be fooled the first few
times you hear it, because we're probably going to keep
going until goal shuts us dead. I think we've even
had shows called one more Thing. We have had We've
had a couple of shows called one more Thing, which
could really be a nuts in both. Oh anyways, okay,
so how about this. Let's let's start with maybe a
Facebook message sounds great, all right? This one comes from

(03:37):
Jerome s. And Jerome says, Hey, guys, many years ago,
back in the late eighties or maybe the early nineties,
I remember seeing a Corvette Sledgehammer too in a racing
game with nine plus horsepower. After a little poking around,
I saw some pages regarding the Corvette Callaway Sledgehammer. It
might be nice to hear about the history of this
series of cars. Well, I mean I kind of dug

(03:58):
around just a little bit about this, um Jerome and
the sledge Hammer was actually a Callaway car, So Callaway
Callaway Car Callaway Cars project, and they made a car
called the sledge Hammer, and they made just one. It
was nine horse power. It had get this in the
in the nineteen eighties. In late nineteen eighties, two hundred

(04:19):
and fifty mile per hour top speed. I think it
broke a record at something like two hundred and fifty
four miles per hour, which is really pretty amazing. I mean,
and there's just one sledge hammer. And now Calaway did
build a bunch of other cars, of course, you know
their Corvette based cars they had, they had Mazda cars,
they had Alpha, Romeyo's, Aston, Martin's, Mercedes Bens, etcetera. But um, this,

(04:42):
this one particular sledge hammer car is something that maybe
we should dig into. Yeah, I think that has legs
where I guess we should say wheels. Oh. You know
the saddest part about that, Scott, is that I worked
on that one earlier. That's that's the worst, all Man,
You're an impro two. I know I should be a
way better. Uh so uh speaking of doing way better,

(05:07):
our super listener Rudy. Who Rudy. I know you don't
like it that much if we shout you out, but
it's only because you send some really great stuff all
the time, all of the time. Here is one that
Rudy sent us that was super interesting to me, Scott,
and I want to see what you think about this too.
The f x x K based on Ferrari's fastest ever

(05:29):
road legal car, the law Ferrari, uh is going to
be something you can theoretically buy if you want to
pay two million pounds. Two million pounds Yep, that's like
three million US dollars. Yeah almost, Yeah, it's in. It's
one of the most expensive cars. I think it might
be the most expensive street legal car. Um. It looks

(05:52):
beautiful if you check out this article I did. I
look at the photos. I was tempted to use that
as my screen saver. It's it's really cool looking car
built or based on the La Ferrari, as we said, right,
the track this is a track only version, however, right, so,
so for for three million dollars, it's it's not a
road legal vehicle. Uh man. You gotta really love attract

(06:14):
a car to be able to throw down three million
dollars or something like that, though, right, and let me
clarify just because I think I mean I've misspoken there.
The f x x K is, as you said, track
only the La Ferrari, which was based upon his road
legal all right, there's something funny about that name, right well,
the f x x K, well, when we say it,

(06:35):
it may not sound funny, but if you read it,
it looks like they're censoring something. Write it out on
paper at home, you'll see what you mean. You see
what you mean is that family show. So you're not
gonna go into too much detail. They're just being pretty
bold over there at Ferrari, is all I'm saying, you know, yes, okay, alright,
so uh well, you know what, Let's tell you what.
Let's not got another one from Rudy here, because this
one is I find this one fascinating and I think

(06:56):
a lot of people are gonna like this because Um,
I had no idea that there's this one region in
Italy that has so many factories so close together that
and you can go tour these factories, of course, or
maybe could go through these factories. But he writes in
about Rudy writes in again about um, um, you know
the princely collection thing that we did, You know that
that rotting collection? Yeah, yeah, the Sultan and Brunei's brother. Um.

(07:19):
Also about the factory podcast. You know, the Factory Tours podcast.
I guess, so, he says, after after thinking about the
prince and a deteriorating collection for a while, it occurred
to me that it's just an extreme case of neglect
that I see frequently with boats and cars. We've all
seen homes where one or more cars or boats lay
rotting in the side yard. And that's exactly what's going

(07:39):
on there on a much larger scale, right Um. Now,
I mean he was taking care of him as most
people do take care of a car or boat that
they pull off to the side. But then eventually, you know,
the leaves start to pile up on top of it,
and you forget to wash it that month or whatever,
and uh, it just becomes a wrex. And that's exactly
what's going on, but on a huge, huge scale. Also,
he says, they want to take I want to thank

(08:00):
you for the Hyndai Plants podcast. That's fascinating stuff. I
like to hear more podcasts about the manufacturing and automation
and of the car industry, so maybe we can consider
that as well. And he says, realize this is a
biased interest of mine, of course, but maybe other listeners
would be in on it too, And he says, I
hope you get a good response about it, and actually
we did. We got some decent response about um factory

(08:21):
tours and people that have been on factory tours or
you know, have clued us into some unusual factory tours
that you can go on. Um. Also, he says, thanks
just for the simple idea of asking about factory tours.
Because my son recently graduated from civil engineering school congratulations, congrats,
and having passed his first professional exam as an engineer
and training, he'll be working near Milan in Italy, of course,

(08:45):
which which is cool in itself. But since you mentioned
factory tours, I did a quick check and became intrigued
with some possibilities for when we go to visit him.
And then there's kind of like an even laugh, like
and then he uh, he sent this this chart or
this this map for there that shows what's in that area,
and I clicked on the chart, and this is really
in the in the in the Milan region of area,

(09:07):
very close together. You can go to Maserati, Pagani, Ferrari, Ducati,
and Lamborghini, and it looks like they're probably within a
day's reach of each other. I mean much closer than that.
I don't I don't even know the distance. There wasn't
a scale there, but um, pretty cool that they're all
close together, like that you could make a quite a
week out of this if you wanted to. I thought

(09:29):
it was pretty interesting anyway, So thanks Rudy for for
sending that. And I'm gonna look into, uh each of
these factories and see if there are factory tours. Yeah,
that's a good idea to get back to us, because
maybe we could take a field trip. Do you think
the Bostil spring for it? Honestly? No, Well we will
let's ask. We can ask. We can always see what
kind of evil laugh he makes. Right. Our next message

(09:51):
comes to us from Kevin f Over on the car
Stuff Facebook page. He said, you guys said you hadn't
heard of scooter side cars that used to be quite
popular here in the UK, And he has some links
to and some classic restorations where he has a picture
of a beautiful Bambini scooter sidecar. Did you see this?

(10:11):
Did look at the photos? Yes? This seems so strange
to me because one of my questions, and not to
not to be dismissive towards scooters, but one of my
questions would be how well the engine can perform with
the added weight of a side car. Sure you have
like what a forty nine c c engine right, and
it's it's working pretty hard and fairly hard to move

(10:33):
that one person that's on the scooter through traffic. Typically
if it's uphill, forget about it, right, I mean it
slows way down. Um, so when you add a second
person plus the weight of a sidecar, uh, it seems
like you'd have to have one of the bigger or
one of the higher end scooters in order to make
that work. Right. I don't know what the displacement on
those engines are. Maybe they're a little stronger than we think,
but um, yeah, that would be my only question. They

(10:55):
do look really cool though, Yeah, they look great. Here's
another one from Brad who said, hey, guys, could you
do a podcast on airless tires? Airless Oh, tweels? Yeah, twheels?
I remember. I think we've talked about those, haven't we.
I don't know if we did a whole podcast or
if they were just in our in in our podcasts

(11:17):
on tires in general. Possibly, yeah, but I know we've
talked about tweels in the past, but they were always
kind of um, you know, in development or something. But
now Michelin is actually selling airless tires right for a
t V s and some other off road vehicles, I believe.
I don't think I haven't seen any on a car yet.
Maybe there will be soon. But I think also for UM,

(11:38):
I think long Equipment might have some airless tires as well.
There's some applications there now. Of course, Brad also went
the extra mile and on our Facebook page he posted
a video about airless tires or twheels. So we hope
that you will check it out. And by the way,
feel free to friend us and like us on Facebook,

(11:59):
where you know you see stuff that doesn't make it
under our show all the time. Okay, all right, so
here's another thing from Facebook another post. This comes from
Jesse s and he says, Hey, guys, love the podcast,
especially the historical ones. I work in the oil patch
here in Alberta, Canada, and so I drive a lot
while I listen to the podcast most of the time.
Lots of people around here are really into diesel performance

(12:21):
in our trucks. I'm not sure if you've done an
episode on this or not, but some of the horsepower
people are getting out of these these motors is unbelievable. Uh,
while still being able to get thirty miles per gallon
trucks with triple turbo setups or even compound turbos are
running in the one hundred and fifty mile per hour
range in the quarter mile. That's a truck um and
fourteen hundred horsepower is becoming a thing. Now, this is ridiculous,

(12:45):
I think, I mean that's now, that's what he's saying.
It's ridiculous. But um amazing. I mean I did had
no idea that people were tuning their their diesel pickup trucks,
you know, the street type trucks up to four hundred
horse power. Who is that listening again? This is Jesse
s from Facebook and uh man, what a good idea
about modern diesel performance. Maybe we could do um an

(13:05):
episode on just that. You know what. That is a
fantastic idea, and we are going to keep going. Let's
switch it up. Let's go back to good old fashioned email. Here.
We've got one from John G who writes to us
and says, hello, Ben and Scott. As I was listening
to the podcast about chain driven vehicles, I was wondering
if you and your listeners know what is considered a

(13:26):
motorcycle by the state of Nevada, as and many other
states and We've talked about this before. I think on
air in Nevada motorcycles to find as a motor vehicle
with one drive wheel. Thus, the can Am Spider is
a motorcycle since as one drive wheel, and a motorcycle
driver's license is required to drive it. However, the Harley
Davidson trike is not a motorcycle since it has to

(13:47):
drive wheels and they can be driven with a regular
driver's license. He goes on to say, the reason I
have researched this is that I own a nineteen fifty
nine Harley Davidson servit car. I have attached the photo
of it, and this thing looks pretty cool. Um, I
just said that. He didn't write that it is a
former police traffic unit and we think out of San
Francisco p D. Thanks for the information, and uh, this

(14:09):
was interesting because did you get a chance to look
at this one? I did. That's a beautiful vehicle. I mean,
it's really nice, well done, it sure is, and it
looks fantastic. And uh, we have talked about let's see,
we've talked about the spider, I think, which is where
we talked about the tricky definition of motorcycle. Yes, and
cycle all that too. Yeah, and we talked about the

(14:31):
Harley Davidson in our chain driven vehicle. That's that specific model.
I mean, I know it was made for many many years.
That was their long long run for Harley, but um,
that was the one that had that weird differential set
up with the chain going into the middle of the
differential to drive the rear action and strange, strange looking
um set up. But clearly it worked for them because

(14:52):
they kept it around for decades. Complicated stuff, you know.
And I thought it was interesting that we had uh,
some new people writing about the change driven Vehicles episode. Yeah,
people really like that. A decent response for that one. Well, John,
thanks for writing, and uh thanks for the photo by
the way, that's really cool. I would love to put
that on our Facebook or Twitter because you guys just

(15:15):
have to see this nineteen fifty nine. It looks beautiful.
So let's keep it moving and go to our next
our next story. Scott, do you have listener mail or yeah,
I've got some stuff here. Um, let's see what you
know what I would like to knock out. There's a
bunch of them here that are talking about the bath
first uh episode that we did now this is the

(15:35):
regarding the Bathroost one thousand, and it was Aaron s
SoC Ietea. Aaron. Uh, what's his last name? There? Aeron
Saliba Saliba, And Aeron writes in He's written in a
few times, several times. So high, Aeron, And he wrote
in again just after he listened to the Bathroost one
thousand episode. And as a matter of fact, they wrote
and said, you have a horrible job. No no, I said,

(15:57):
I had a lot of information that I that I
didn't know about, you know, the history, and it was
the perfect podcast listen to on the drive down to
the event. How cool is that? So so Aaron's listening
to our podcast as he's headed to the bathrooms one thousand,
so trying to get, you know, drum up some excitement.
I guess maybe that's what's going on, right. He said
it was the most amazing motorsport experience I've had so far. Yeah,

(16:17):
really cool, I mean, he said it was a thrilling race.
He said it involved ten safety cars, um sixty three
minute race stopped to repair the track, cars being flipped
a kangaroo accident, the League car on the last lap,
running out of fuel in the car which started from
the last place ended up winning it after almost eight
hours of racing. It sounds like a good event. I mean,
it sounds like a lot of fun. And I know

(16:38):
that when you're there and there's the excitement, the the
roar of the engines, the smell of the crowd, you know,
that's that's pretty exciting. I just want to point out
for everybody who thought, wait, did I hear that right? Yes,
according to Aaron, at least there was a kangaroo accident.
Oh I thought you were going to comment on the
small the crowd comment. Oh never mind anyway, So so yeah,

(16:59):
there was a kangaroo accident and all that happened. I mean,
you know the race was stopped. Um boy, the the
lead car running out of fuel on the last lap.
I mean, those are those are exciting finishes. So I
know what he's talking about. When you're there experiencing that,
that's great. And he's got a suggestion also for us,
so maybe um racing simulators, um and also games like

(17:19):
fours and Grand Tarismo games, because those are pretty you know,
pretty close to drive in a real car, I mean
as much as it can be in your living room.
So I don't know that's a good idea of racing simulators.
We haven't ever talked about those. I don't know. The
closest we ever got it was we talked about things
like the cars of video games. Yeah, so thanks Aaron
for the suggestions, and uh, I'm glad he had a
good time at the the event. Um next to we've

(17:42):
got three or four of these if you don't mind,
how quickly go through them? One clarification from from Kath
Fisher on Facebook. Kath writes in to say, guys, the
reason the change for the change of the bathrooms race
from five miles to one thousand kilometers because remember I
did that at some point. Um, it's because Australia officially
converted its road signage from imperial to metric in nineteen

(18:04):
seventy four and the race was adjusted to comply with this.
So that makes perfect sense. Okay, Yeah, thanks for the
Thanks for the lead there, Kat, thank you. We appreciate
his Kath, Kath, thanks for the lead there, kathar me,
I want to make sure you get it right. Well.
I am a very appreciative of you checking out my annunciation. Sorry,
I'm sorry I try it to be a jerkor no,

(18:25):
so you put up with too much. It does sound
like I open up a podcast with the mouth of marbles.
I get it. I never said that, but okay, alright, so, um,
all right, here's another one from Eddie, and Eddie says,
let's see, I'd like to say thanks for a great podcast.
Makes my work commute much more bearable, especially here in
Toronto in the cold winter months. So well, it seems

(18:47):
like a lot of people right in and say that
about their commute. They listened to us in their commute.
That makes sense, I think. So people have long days,
they listen to podcast. It kind of makes a day
go faster. Things like that. Um, but it says, he says,
living in Canada for almost nine years now. Um, I'm
originally from the suburbs of Sydney, And he says that
back in my younger days, I actually did once go
to the mounta Panorama Racetrack. I think it's sometime in

(19:07):
the late ninety nineties. Um, Austin petrol heads do love it.
But but since I've been away so long, it seems
like some things have changed. Brocky who he's talking about,
Peter brock was a national hero and I had just
been living in Toronto for six months when I heard
the news that he had passed away. One thing that
you guys didn't mention is that the roads that make
up the Mountain Panorama Circuit are actually public roads that

(19:29):
are closed for the duration of the race, and says
cops tend to bust a lot of would be racers
coming down the Conrad Straight when it isn't the race weekend,
in so using it as a racetrack when it's when
it's you know, for public use not really allowed. That's right,
because they know what's going to happen. Also, there's a

(19:50):
correction and a few people sent this in, but I'm
just gonna read one from Eddie here. Uh He says
that I wanted to mention that you guys keep referring
to the Toronto gtr x U one with the V six.
How Ever, I believe they only ever had an INLINE six,
And a few people rode in to say that, yeah, yeah,
that was just an oversight on our part. We saw
the the I six and and said V six during

(20:10):
during our podcast. But thank you Eddie for the correction.
And uh man, that'd be cool to driving that track,
wouldn't it. No kidding. I would I would love it.
I've got an email here from Rob and Rob says, Hey,
Scott and Benn, I have an idea for a show.
I'd be surprised if you haven't covered it already, but
I haven't heard it. My ideas for car dealerships, new
and used. Possible topics include how they decide how many

(20:33):
and which trimp levels to stock, how our profits split,
what happens to unsold cars at the end of the
model year, how do they side which makes the pair?
You know, Chevy Nissan, if you work in Honda, etcetera.
A typical day in the life of salesperson, major differences
between you and used dealerships, et cetera. And I think
that's a pretty good idea. Yeah, very good idea. He
goes on with something specifically for you, my friend for me, Yeah,

(20:57):
he says, Also, Scott, I believe you're really interested in
true crimes stories. There's a podcast I think you'll really
like called Serial. If you already know about it, you
can stop reading now. Do you already know about this one?
I do not. I've heard about it on the radio,
though I've heard people talk about it. Yeah, it's a
story week by week. Uh. They've done nine episodes so
far as of the time that Rob wrote this. Uh.
It starts with investigation and this guy who's in jail

(21:19):
for killing his girlfriend in when he was seventeen. He said,
he's innocent all all along. The program does a lot
of digging. Uh. He says he finds it riveting and fascinating.
He hopes to check it out. Uh, and he said
he likes the show. Now it is true. You're you're
a pretty big true crime fan. I've listened to Cereal.

(21:41):
I like it, you do. Yeah, okay, I've to check
this out. I mean I've heard yeah. I mean there's
a little bit of controversy over the whole thing as well,
So I mean, I'll listen to it and see what
I think. But it sounds interesting. So thanks for the
Thanks for the tip. I appreciate it, And thanks for
the suggestion. With dealerships, we've done some dealership stuff lately.
We've done the AMC dealership, Yeah we have. And uh,

(22:01):
let's see what are some of the other ones. We
did how to buy a car several different ways? Yeah,
that's right. Yeah, and some of the tips and tricks.
I guess you know, for getting the best deal, that
kind of things that we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, that's right,
all right. I know there are others along the way too.
It seems like man, with so many episodes, it kind
of gets lost in the in the in the shuffle, like. So, yeah,

(22:21):
that's not a bad idea. Maybe we can do something
on new cars, used cars, etcetera. I think that's probably
a good idea. Oh quick sidebar, Yeah here, Uh, we
should tell people that a Tesla dealership recently opened up
in our neck of the woods. Yeah, right across the street.
As a matter of fact, Yeah, we're gonna walk down
and check it out in person, hopefully on a lunch
break one of these days. Uh. However, everything I've heard

(22:45):
about this is positive. People are going nuts and bananas
over this place. Yeah, and we are seeing on the
streets of Atlanta a lot more Tesla vehicles the model
s place. And you mentioned a color that I have
not seen yet. You're right, I'm just gonna go ahead
and say it. I saw a roadster with an ugly

(23:05):
shade of orange, an offensive shade of orange, a morally
reprehensible hue of orange. And I rarely say stuff like
this but you and I were talking off air earlier
today and we were talking about how some colors just
seemed to fit some vehicles better than others. Like I'd

(23:27):
be fine with a yellow Dodge Challenger, right, I would
not be fine with a yellow minivan. Or what if
you're your My Carlo was yellow, right? Yellow? Like school
bus yellow. Oh, I don't know if I could deal
with it. You know, there's a guy who used to
drive like a nineties seven money Carlo around the time

(23:48):
when I was at school in Tech and he had
that he had custom painted it so that it was
Tech colors, and uh no, it just didn't look good. Yeah. Yeah,
there's some questionable decisions made there. But to each his own, right,
that's your that's your car. Do what you want with.
I just still stick with Henry ford Man. I prefer
a car to be black, honestly, that's true. And what

(24:11):
about um, I guess, up until this point, right until
we just we're speaking here, I think you're talking about
the model s being that orange color because I haven't
seen them made in that in that color yet. Maybe
maybe there's one out there that's been repainted already that
has you know, some kind of wild paint job because
right now, I think they're selling them in you know,
like black, red, silver, white, that kind of color scheme.

(24:31):
And I'm interested to see what they have over there
at that dealership because it's in a mall, and don't
they just have one vehicle on display. I think it's
not like a typical dealership. It's more like a like
a retail store almost. Yeah, it's like they call it
a store. And you know, it's been pretty controversial for
everybody who's been following the Testless story. It's been pretty

(24:52):
controversial when they open up a new store because it
breaks the usual rule of dealership business. Right. In fact,
some states have have made it very very difficult for
them to open up any location within that state. I
think when we say some states, we mean the dealership
lobbies in those states. Yeah, you know what, I've got

(25:14):
another little bit here, um, and it's from Richard C.
And Richard C. Writes in and says, this is also
related to um, you know, dealership, So I thought i'd
mentioned this. He says, Hi, Hi, Ben Scott and nol
without whom the show would not be So there's a
shout out to knowl Um says I discovered the podcast
recently have been listening to back episodes that caught my attention.

(25:35):
One was the ten Inexpensive Use Sports Cars and Luxury
Cars episode. Remember when we did that one? There were
some surprises on that list, He says. Let me share
a thought um based on my own experience. I work
at an independent Accura Honda dealership in Greensboro, North Carolina.
I've worked on them since when I first worked at
Crown Accurate. During those years, I have seen countless people,

(25:56):
many young people, by a second hand Accura of some
descript and that they could finally afford to purchase, but
not own. And here's here's what he means by that,
because he describes us. I recall one lady who bought
a used two thousand six r L and absolutely love
the car. However, when she had to buy the first
set of tires, she literally stood at the count front
counter and cried. Unfortunately, we could do little to help her.

(26:18):
Tires in that size are are all expensive Z and
W rated tires. Unlike her former Accord, she couldn't step
down to an s ort rated Asian rim tire. The
truth is she could have, she couldn't afford to buy
and finance the r L that she couldn't afford to
own the vehicle. And that's the big difference, right, that's
always said so many times with the maintenance costs and
these things. I think we even talked about, you know,

(26:40):
the affordable Ferrari. You know there's you know, the twenty
thou dollar Ferrari that's the type that Magnum p I
drove back in the nineteen eighties. You know, you can
get those for around two dollars now if you find
you know, a bargain still. But the maintenance is where
it will just kill you. Yeah, that's where they get you.
And a lot of people don't really contemplate the cost
of owning a vehicle, just the cost the upfront cost

(27:03):
of buying it, that's right. So that's the difference in
what he's pointing out here is that you can afford
to to buy in finance if you can't afford to
actually own that vehicle. And I says, you know, it's
it's sad to see someone purchase a wonderful car and
you know, be happy with it, and you know then
eventually just have to let it go or maybe worse,
you know, hang onto it. And watch the car suffer
from neglect because the owner can afford the upkeep of

(27:24):
you know, a premium car, and that is a problem
and you gotta you gotta take all that into account.
And UM, I don't know, I think it's a it's
a good lesson to learn. But he says, you know,
like when um, you know, like a basic oil change
is relatively same for most cars, but when an r
L or t L in you know the case the
accurate comes in with Brembo breaks and requires two hundred
and seventy dollar brake pads. Uh, you know, there's no

(27:46):
quality aftermarket part available for these things. That becomes an expensive,
expensive vehicle to own. So good point, Richard C. We
appreciate it, and uh, and keep listening. And now we're
going to go to a Facebook message from a long
time friend of ours, uh where we can actually say
his full name to Ryan George. Oh, yes, Ryan sent

(28:10):
us this really cool article from Wired said about how
you ship an F one vehicle across the globe in
thirty six hours. And we've got it. We've got it
here on our Facebook page, which if you visit you
can you can check out the messages people have sent
each other and us over the wall, and I'm glad

(28:31):
Ryan wrote in because you know we hear from him often,
not as often as we used to. I'm sure he's
a busy guy. He runs an auction service, right, Yes,
he had the vehicle that was wrapped, the a Mini
that was wrapped, and we did a full episode on
how to wrap a vehicle based on that, I mean
his experience. Um, we always get fascinating emails from the guy.
He's always doing something somewhere. It's always uh, it's always

(28:53):
interesting to see what he's up to. Yeah, and at
the end of the year he since the Christmas card
like thing with the diff An adventures. Yeah, it's amazing.
The guy gets over it, gets gets around that guy
and does some fun stuff too. So here is here's
a little bit of detail from that from this article
that they sent us. Uh. So, the two thousand fourteen

(29:14):
Formula One season wraps up this weekend in Abu Dhabi.
They say, as they're writing this, um November twenty one,
two thousand fourteen. For some it's time to celebrate. For
others it's time to worry about the future. But they
will have to ship im Pack twenty two cars and

(29:35):
a few tons of equipment across the globe. So uh,
they they're nineteen races right in Formula one, held over
eight months on six continents. The turnaround from one race
to the next can be as short as one week.
Each of the eleven teams travels sixty two thousand miles
during the season, bringing two cars each and fifty tons

(29:56):
just stuff, you know, parts, um frint components that should
be replaced. That's enough scott to fill six Boeing seven
forty seven's and keeps these people on the road for
as much as two hundred days a year. And if
you want to learn more about how they actually pack
these things, get them on a plane, get them across

(30:19):
the globe. Um oh, I'll go ahead and break down
one more thing. Each team carries enough spare parts to
rebuild their cars. Forty sets of tires, two thousand liters
of fuel, two hundred leaders of motor oil, nine of coolant.
And that's not even counting the tools. That's a separate thing.
That's not even kind of the computers separate thing. This

(30:42):
becomes a huge logistical nightmare, I would think. But the
the thing that they've got going for them is that
they've done this so many times before. I mean, all
they have to do is look to another team to
see how they do it, because they've been doing this
for years and years and years, right, because f one
has I mean it's it's traveled across continents, as he said,
for for decades and uh, and it's just it's just
what they do. They know how to do it well

(31:03):
and they've got it down to a science at this point,
I'm sure. But man, it sounds pretty interesting how they
do I'd love to see them actually packing to go
and how quickly all that happened. Yeah, and although it
sounds daunting, it's still the same team that can do,
you know, a six second pit stop, That's true, and
so this is probably pursued with the same tenacity and efficiency.

(31:26):
Maybe it takes them like four minutes to pack everything,
you know, to do the whole thing. It's like it's
like watching them in fast motion. Yeah, but thank you
for sending this that, Ryan. That was a pretty illuminating
I hope other people check it out and good to
hear from you again, So keep keep writing in and
we appreciate it. Um. All right, here's one from another
car stuff message from I'm gonna try this one. Ben.

(31:47):
I'm telling you why I'm trying this, because he says,
extra points if you can pronounce my Belgian last name.
And I'm gonna give it all right, so his name
is Ben boss Suit. I'm gonna say it's boss Suit
or boss site maybe sit Well, he'll let us know
right then, I hope. So I gave it two shots.
I don't know. Maybe it's cheating well, Ben says, I
have a couple of ideas for future shows. Um. One

(32:10):
would be the creation of Chevrolet, which I think is
a fantastic idea. How have we not done that? I
don't know? I mean it's it's come up in other
podcasts I know, Um, but only as a side note.
Maybe I travel Monte Carlo. How have we not that?
I don't know? And he's also He also mentions, um,
he'd like to know about the seventies split bumper Camaro
who and her special model? And then maybe the best

(32:31):
idea I think out of this whole thing. I mean,
Chevrolet is pretty good. I like that. But the legacy
of Leay A Coca, I mean he was the head
of Ford when the Mustang came out and the savior
the Chrysler brand afterwards in the nineteen eighties. I think
that's a fantastic idea. There is another really really good
idea you can focus on Leia Coca. Yeah, but you're
knocking these out of the park now because you took

(32:54):
the pronunciation challenge, Scott. You know I'm never gonna leave
you an alert. I'll take one as well. I'm probably
gonna get this wrong, so Laudon s rites to us.
That's m L A d E n uh right to
us with this uh with this great story. And I'm

(33:14):
just gonna go ahead and read it to you. Okay,
do you remember this one? Yes? Hey, guys, I just
listened to your first car podcast, Ben. I think I
have a story that beats yours. I had a nine
eight Cutless Supreme. It was in great shape. I got
it for the price of a new battery for it.
A family friend had it sitting on its farm. All
it needed was the battery. We got it running, but

(33:35):
it's stalled out as we were getting it going. As
we left the farm heading back to the city, it's
stalled out on me, and without coming to a complete stop,
I shifted it into park right there. I messed up
the transmission and that was the end of the car.
It kind of ran and we managed to get at home,
but we had the shifter in neutral and driving forward
when we got it. Almost all the way home it's
stalled out again, but this time we had to put

(33:57):
it in reverse to drive forward. So once it got home, Uh,
it was right to the Kidney Foundation from there. Uh.
You know, the Kidney Foundation of course can take donations
of cars. Sure, the the charity donation of vehicles, right. Uh,
it was a sad day for me. The next car
I got myself was a nineteen eight seven Labaron Turbo.
That car I got for six hundred dollars and it

(34:18):
lasted me over years. I was able to trade it in.
There's nothing really good about that car other than that
I was able to go anywhere I wanted on my own. Man.
You know what, there were so many of those LeBaron
turbos on the road just a few years ago, and
now you hardly ever see them. Yeah, I wonder what happened.
It's weird sometimes that cars seem to come in waves,
but not always cars that have a new model year

(34:39):
or something. You know. But I remember, you know, three
or four years ago. It seems like even that, you know,
there were there were not a huge group of them
or anything like that, but um, there were a few
here and there that I could spot, you know, on
the way to and from work every day, or you know,
driving around the weekend, you would see Labaron turbo convertible.
And now I just don't see any of them. It's
like they've all just disappeared off the face of the earth.

(35:01):
It's really strange. You know. It's interesting you say that
because down south of Atlanta, where I was growing up,
there was a period where the entire area was just
lousy with Mustangs. You know, they were they were, they
were everywhere. There were the Honda Odyssey of their time.
And now there's a relatively few or the newer models
right right, the newer models, And it's strange. Oh and uh.

(35:23):
One other thing that he has for us here is
a suggestion too. He says, I've been listening to all
your podcasts. I'm really enjoying them. The only problem I'm
having is that I'm listening to him faster than you're
coming out with them. So I'm beginning to the end
of the next few weeks keep up the great work.
I do have a suggestion. You guys have mentioned a
few times, so I haven't gotten to yet. The Nissan Skyline,

(35:44):
more specifically the R thirty four Skyline. For me, when
I was eleven years old, I saw Too Fast, Too Furious.
I saw the Skyline in that movie. It's only in
there for like ten minutes, but it captured me, and
this was the car that got me interested in cars.
Goes on to say it's his dream car, and uh,
we can import them to Canada, where he's based, but
it's out of his price range at this point. See,

(36:06):
these are the cars that were legal to have here
in the United States and also in Canada, and now
they're starting to become available on the gray market. Remember
we talked about gray market cars. There's a I think,
I think it's a pretty fascinating podcast on that. I mean,
as far as the rules and regulations and what you
have to go through in order to get a car
imported that had been previously unallowed because of safety regulations,

(36:27):
you know, what have you? Sure, yes, safety regulations are
the biggest one, but then there there's also just some
political stuff. I think, Oh that's a great idea. Yeah,
that is a great idea, the Nissan Skyline, and I
owe I owe Maladdin an apology because I've forgot that.
In the PostScript, he tells us how to pronounce his thing. Well,

(36:49):
let's hear it. I feel I feel like such a
such a heel. Now he said. This is so helpful,
He said, to pronounce my name. I'll help you out
so you won't butcher it too bad on air. You
choose these my too late? For is that her first name? Maladden?
Think Aladdin, but start with an M, so like Miladden. Okay,
well I just got it yet, actually bad. He did

(37:12):
pretty well the first time. Well that is really kind
and these are great ideas. I'm really looking forward to
that Skyline episode. You know, our coworker, Christian Sager loves
loves Fast and Furious, so we might have to have
him back on the show. Oh yeah, that's right. You
know what later Uh you know, I think we're gonna
actually tell you what I'll do it right now. Here's

(37:32):
one that kind of relates to that podcast that we
did with Christian. Remember we did the Pony Cars episode
and we talked about several cars, and there's I'm gonna
try to search through my notes here while we're talking
about this one as a matter of fact, because I've
got another one. But there is a note here from
Adam Davidson out of Sydney, Australia and says feel free
to mention my full name. So I did. Um. He

(37:53):
says this, and the title of this, the subject of
this is why the Pontiac GTO is definitely not a
pony car. Um. And then the spoilers. It has to
do with where it's built, and we talked about that.
We did say that, yeah, it has to be an
American car, but we kind of argued a little bit
over it because it's made by a by US manufacturers,
well sort of. And that's what he's clearing up here,

(38:15):
and I'll tell you what he means. Um, big fan
of the show and really enjoyed your episode on pony Cars.
Just finished listening and felt compelled to mention the debate
you're having regarding whether or not the g t O
circummit To late two thousands could be regarded as a
pony car. The Pontiac GTO is missing a major requirement
in the pony car checklist. It's an Australian built car
and essentially, aside from the few aesthetics like the iconic

(38:37):
Pontiac twin grill, it's essentially a Holden Menaro. Then he's
exactly right. I mean that was what was going on.
It was. It was a an Australian built vehicle that
they rebadged as a Pontiac in the early part of
two thousand and by two thousand eight it was was
essentially gone. It's just it's a country of origin, is
what it was. It was gone because Pontiac dissolved at

(38:58):
that right, So we've got one other one of the
note here that regarding the gt O that I think
we have to we should mention. We really should, and
it comes from Joshua Baker, and Joshua Baker someone who
writes an off and as well. Um, he says, good
morning fellers. Sorry, I have an email in a while
I wanted to drop. It was supposed to be a
quick line but turned into a little more than that.
And there's a long note here which I've read all

(39:18):
of it, I promised josh but um, I'm not going
to read it here online. But there's one really good
idea and then a g t O correction. So we'll
get to that. The one good idea is um about
a car called the nineteen three. I believe it's heiny
VELAs or velo Um. This is a guy that he
was a piano maker and an auto enthusiast that decided

(39:39):
to become an auto dealer in nineteen o three, and
not long after that he decided to build his own cars,
right he in nineteen o six, Uh, the San Francisco
earthquake put a stop to both of those plans, you know,
his auto business plans and his piano building plans. But
he got his piano business back up and running first,
and then he went back to work building a car
and he it started and around nine I think is

(40:03):
when he started selling his cars. His first cars um
in nineteen twenty three. Acts. Actually, when he sold his
first car ninety three, he sold it for seventeen thousand dollars.
That was a price tag on one of these, So
this is a premium, high end vehicle in ninety three.
But he says that he ended up giving away five
all five examples of his vehicle, so maybe he didn't

(40:23):
sell his car. I mean it says here he started
selling the car in nineteen twenty three but I guess
no one bought them. He ended up giving them away
at some point. Uh. It's a big, stately car with
a V twelve engine and it looks amazing. So we're
gonna definitely look into that as a possible topic. Yeah,
I'd love to do that. And this is kind of
the g t O SmackDown from Joshua. I guess on this,
on this spit here and and well taken. I mean
we understand that we were we were mistaken with this,

(40:46):
or at least I was, and it was my fault.
I'd take full responsibility for this one. I mentioned in
the Pony Car episode that NASCAR had a g t
O and it sometime in two thousand eight in the
Nationwide series. I thought that is not true. I I
looked and looked and looked to try to find where
I got that note from. And I'm I'm laughing at
myself here. I think I think it was probably a

(41:07):
cut and paste there on my show notes. And I'm
sorry for that. I mentioned the g t O. I
know in the Nationwide Series and the other vehicles that
we mentioned were there. I promised you that, But there
was no uh g t O in NASCAR in two
thousand and eight. The only ones that were there were
you know, from the uh. I want to say that
the what the early nineteen sixties or nineteen set, like

(41:30):
late nineteen sixties maybe I think that was it. Nineteen
nineteen sixty six and nineteen seventy one, I think is
when he found them. Anyway, so we were we were
wrong on the g t ONFO and he says, you know,
he says, I love you guys, and I hope you
know that because what I'm about to say may offend you. Uh,
but I think you've kind of bungled your g t
O facts again as I'm a big, big fan of

(41:51):
the g t O. So he knows his stuff, and
you know, if we misquote something or have something wrong,
he's he's right there on it. So we appreciate that, Joshua,
because someone's got to keep us a line. I appreciate that,
keep us honest and seriously like, that was my mistake totally.
I put them in the notes there and shared them
with everybody else, and then we all got it wrong,
and I apologize for that. Hey, you know what, don't

(42:11):
beat yourself up. Don't beat yourself up. I would have
liked to have seen a g t O in the
nationwide series in two thousand eight. That would have been cool.
That's true. Maybe it was just wishful thinking. Maybe maybe
it was well, your mistake, as you're calling it, has
nothing on the mistake I'm about to tell you about Scott.
It's in the news recently a treasure trove of sixty

(42:36):
extremely rare cars have been discovered in western France after
forty years, maybe decades of being lost. And when I
say rare cars, I am talking about um a Ferrari California,
a s wb uh ultra rare Maserati's the way that

(43:01):
this happened, and I'm gonna show you some pictures of
this too and a bit uh. The way that this
happened was a a gentleman wanted to buy pre war cars,
a guy who's like a transport I don't want to
say tycoon, but he was doing well for himself. He's
an entrepreneur. So he purchased over eventually over a hundred cars,

(43:24):
and then during the seventies he had to sell fifty.
After that the rest the other sixty remained untouched but checked,
so he had overs unbelievable all those photos really nice. Yeah. Now,
and there's you see that Ferrari, Yeah, has buried under
piles of magazines. It looks like magazines, newspapers, things like that.

(43:46):
And so people are hunting down the lineage of these
these cars because these are beat up. These are kind
of like there, they're in slightly better shape than that
a MC dealership. These are these are barn fresh car. Yeah,
these are barn fresh. And you know, it looks like
several of them could be restored. I don't have the

(44:06):
whole laundry list of how many cars or the makes yet,
and they are going to be going to auction, I believe. Uh.
Oh okay, here's some of the here's just a short list. Uh.
There are three Volson's, a Bugatti Type fifty seven, Vintol
eight de La Hayes uh a Fossil Vega Exit albums,

(44:30):
Hispano suizah H six b A Laganda LG forty five,
Cabriole UH four, Pahard La Vassors, a Porsche three fifty
six eight Talbot lagos Um And the people, the experts
are saying that not since the revelation of the Schlump collection,
which we did a great show on earlier in Malhouse

(44:51):
has such a group of emblematic automobile has been disclosed.
And what is more, in such original conditions, visitors to
the Retromobiles salon will be able to share in our motion,
much like that experienced by the people who entered King
Tut's tomb. That's fascinating when they find something like this,
isn't it. I mean a huge collection like that, and

(45:11):
it was nearly twice as big just you know, a
couple of decades ago. I wonder, you know, I wonder
what's gonna happen to that collection? Is somebody gonna buy
the whole thing? They're gonna buy individual cars? I mean,
what's what's gonna happen with this? Yeah, let me tell
you one thing about that Maserati though it was a
Maserati a six G two thousand Berlinetta, one of four
in the world. So these are really really rare cars.

(45:34):
And no wonder they're comparing it to the Schlump collection. Yeah,
and I don't know if they are going there. There
was a car owned by King Farouk. Uh there was
you know, these are cars have been owned by royalty
that have history. Uh. Speculation says that if these are
restored properly, because they're in salvageable condition, that they will

(45:56):
be automatic pebble beach winners. Yeah, they look like it.
I mean, the bodies of these cars are very classic
line vehicles there. I mean, they're they're some of them
are aerodynamic, some are not. Some of them have I'm
sure enormous engines under the hood, but what condition. I mean,
they haven't been started and probably you know, thirty forty
years maybe right. Yeah, And those sixty that are being
sold are not the entirety of the collection that we're

(46:20):
about a hundred remaining, but forty were in such condition
that the family currently owns it found that would be
better to sell it for spare parts. And you have
to wonder because people are being protective of the family's identity.
But Scott, you have to wonder how you can just
lose a hundred cars like they must have a lot
of property, or maybe they didn't know that this property existed.

(46:44):
I don't know how this would be hidden. I don't know.
I'm not sure how that happens. I mean, these enormous
collections turn up and it's like, well, where, you know,
where was it? This whole time. It hasn't hasn't moved around,
It's been there in the same place. Are they related
to the royal family of Brunei and what's going on?
I don't know. It's an interesting it's interesting when that happens.
I mean, I find it fascinated. So yeah, maybe we
can maybe we can even do a show on that one,

(47:05):
you know, like whatever happens with that that collection. Um,
people love these riding car collections, don't they. It's true
that seems like it's kind of depressing that we can't
do too many at once. It makes him feel bad,
A little sad, yeah, a little bit sad. All right.
So here's a here's another Facebook message from Glenn Beck,
and we're talking about the Glenn Beck as we always say, right, yes,
the Glenn Beck, that two bit radio guys. I'm kidding,

(47:30):
I'm kidding. Yeah, So this is the Glenn Beck, the
one that listens to cars, right he says, uh, He says, well,
good Cam discussion. I really really liked that episode. And
that's good. He says. My favorite is the Cobra Daytona
coupe as far as CAM design goes, and I have
to agree, it's one of my favorites as well. He says,
by the way, if you haven't already covered it, the
story of CSXI seven would make for a great episode.

(47:54):
And I think that would make for a great episode.
But I feel like we've already talked about this one.
And and tell me if you were remember this or not.
This is not the super Snake. This is not the
the the the Shelby Cobra, the one that, uh, you know,
only two were made. It is not that one. I
feel like we have talked about this before. We have.
This is the one that turned up in a storage

(48:16):
area in California and it's just been left there. It
was owned by Phil Spector at some point he used
to drive it around l A and the owner had
committed suicide by burning herself on a mountaintop or something
like that, and uh, it just went and it stayed
in this this uh, the storage area for for decades
and no one knew about it. And they finally rolled

(48:36):
it out and I think it's been restored. It's worth
over like four million dollars. But now it's it's been
a recondition and it's it's in some museum somewhere. But
I feel like we've talked about this already. I'm gonna
kind of comb through our records and see what I
can find. But if we haven't, that would make a
fantastic topic. So great suggesting, Glenn. I appreciate it, and uh,
thanks for writing again. Always go to hear from you. Yeah,

(48:57):
update us and let us know how the race goes
next year. Oh yeah, they're right, that's right. They do
the charity event, right, so definitely, yeah, we'll have to. Uh,
you know, I don't have all the information with me
right now, but I would love to uh do another
plug for them, And you know, we're not paid by
them or anything like that, but uh do fantastic work.
And it's one of these, you know, a road race
event or a charity event. They covers several states and

(49:19):
several days and it looks like a lot of fun.
And he runs in a in a Mustang that they called,
um well, the team name is Team Limer the Lime
Green MUSTA very cool thing to do, and we we
get updates from it all the time, and he's always
asking us to join that rally and I would love
to do it because I think this year I believe
he is going to be in this part of the world,

(49:39):
like on this sideway. Yeah, and this side of the
of the continent. Oh well, let's try it out. Uh.
We have so many possible field trips that we should
be taking, and I think maybe the year for him.
So you guys, let us know where we should go,
and we'll do our best to get there. I've only
got one more thing since we're I think we I
think we're reach in the end of our time here,

(50:01):
which I don't know about you man, but I still
didn't get through all my stuff. I have not even
gone through half. Oh well, I guess we'll have to
do another episode of nuts and bowls. Uh. Here, here's
my last contribution that I thought might be interesting to
some folks. The most powerful motorcycles you can buy in fifteen.
I'm just gonna walk through these real quick. Uh. Number one,

(50:21):
the Kawasaki Ninja z X fourteen are it's got two
hundred and seven horsepower, it's fifteen thousand dollars and it's
got a one thousand, four forty one c C engine
and it looks like a monster. Uh. Next, there's the
Yamaha v Max that's a a hundred and nineties seven

(50:42):
horsepower a little bit over that. Uh it's about eighteen
thousand dollars. And I don't know if people really pay
attention to that one as much. I think it's kind
of silent. Almost two d horse power that's pretty strong.
I mean there's there eight they're hatchback cars that have
less horsepower than that, and they're still pretty quick. Oh man. Yeah,
just pointing out again that my dad thought it would

(51:05):
be a good idea to buy a Geo Metro that
one time. All right. So then there's the Ninja h
two horse power grand n c um, it's kind of
the new kid on the block. There's the n B
Augusta F four r R. We're looking at hundred ninety
seven horse power. Uh, save a little bit of money

(51:28):
because remember the one I just mentioned was twenty five grand.
This one's thousand. So if you want to save some scratch,
consider the Augusta. You can buy the extra key fop
that goes along with it. Yeah, well you can make
a down payment on the key pop for sure. The
Suzuki G S x r D. This thing is great.

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It's a hundred ninety horse power. Uh, only a little
bit over fourteen thousands. Um. People say oh, it's a
Hya Boosa and one of the things says, no list
would be complete without a busa. But man, is that
thing not aging gracefully? It's been around for a while. Um,
you know BMW has the HP for um, so I think.

(52:14):
I don't know, it's got a hundred nine horsepower. It's
twenty thousand, three hundred. I just okay. You and I
are not bikers, but growing up in the South, all
of the bikers I've hung out with have been either
Harley guys through and through or have been you know

(52:35):
what they would call cross rocket guys a smart bike. Yeah,
and um, you know, being raised with the with the
Harley folks, I just get a little bit of skepticism
with like a BMW bike, which I know, guys, I
know intellectually that they're fantastic vehicles. I'm sure. But if
I pick up if I pick up a bike, man,
it's probably gonna Harley. You think you might, I don't know,

(52:59):
I don't know. Um kind of a leaf on the
wind at that moment, and be interesting if what what if? What?
Just what if you and I both went to motorcycle
classes and we learned how to ride bikes. You don't
have to necessarily buy one, right, because I think you
can borrow one for the test, right. Yes, I think
that's possible. Yeah, we talked about that. Yeah, that would
be interesting and I might like to try that. I mean,
I know that it's really not for me as like

(53:21):
a daily commuter or anything like that, but it's always
been something I kind of wanted to try. Um. I
think I've voiced my opinion on this a few times
that I would probably kill myself the first year because
I just know that I would. I would I would
try to push it too hard or whatever, and I
feel more comfortable in a car. Yeah, I just I
would love the excitement of motorcycle. I just don't know
if I trust myself enough on a motorcycle. Well, you know, honestly,

(53:44):
I'll just make up the statistic nine times out of ten.
I'm I'm kidding. But if you look at the accidents
involving motorcycles and cars, the majority of the time, it's
not the biker who is being unsafe, it's the person
in the vehicle. And Uh, unfortunately that statistic bears out. Okay, well,
maybe we can investigate this. Uh this motorcycle school, uh

(54:08):
is in the coming year, let's make a documentary maybe.
I mean, I don't know. I'm not saying that we
will or we won't. I'm just saying that, you know,
it's an interesting idea. I think if we tried it,
and maybe it was, maybe we can get a few
episodes out of it, right maybe video? Yeah, that's true.
You guys, no fool and Scott and I as well
as Noel have been going around and filming episodes of
car Stuff on YouTube where you can see us at

(54:31):
several different events, and you can even see a cameo
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I believe the Ferrari episode. I catch him at the
very end there. Uh, let's see what else have we
got going on. Then we've got several of those. Now
I think we're up to why we've got at least
a dozen videos up online, so you can check that out,
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(54:53):
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the podcast audience knows, but Scott, the honor goes to you.
Yet again, we have failed to get all of our
information out on the Nuts and Bolts. I feel like
we're you know, it's kind of existential at this point.
I don't know if we'll ever catch up though, honestly,
because we get so much listener male and we appreciate
every single bit of it. We read all of it. Yeah,

(55:37):
we've read all these everything that comes in we read.
We don't always get a chance to response. We try
to do shows like this to the ones that we
don't get to respond to online. And uh, and I hope,
I hope we're getting most of it taken care of here,
But I know that I've got several I'm looking at
right now that we haven't yet. So who knows, maybel
and other nuts and Bolts soon. Well, what better way
to end this episode of Nuts and Bolts than with

(55:59):
one more thing one month? All right, So I'm gonna
end here with a short story, and it's not really
that long or you you don't even have to comment
on this if you don't want to, but I think
that you will, right, all right, So I found this fascinating.
So not long ago, maybe month month and a half ago,
I was driving down a major highway here in in Georgia,

(56:21):
and it's headed home, you know, maybe six pm in
the evening something like. It was still light out, and
a car forward of me and to the left of
the sedan you know, just every day today. And I
mean it was just a four door gold whatever. I
don't even know what kind of car it was because
I was so distracted that was happening in this car
at the time. What was happening, Well, as we're driving

(56:42):
along and we're all kind of you know, it's going slow,
it's not really moving that fast, right, We're just creeping
along on the highway here, and all of a sudden,
smoke just starts pouring out of the windows of this vehicle,
the windows of the car. Not from under the hood,
not from the trunk area, not anything like that. It
was from the windows of the car, like inside the
cabin of the car. So they were like smoking in
the car. Well that I didn't know. My initial thought

(57:05):
was that cars on fire. I mean, it was so
much smoke, it was like, um, it was like a
joke almost, you know, like when you know in fast
times a ridge bond eye they come piling out of
the van and smoke pours out. You know, it looks
like it's uh, it's so dense and there you can't
even see, right, That's how this was. It was white
or gray smoke um just billowing out of the car.
It was amazing. And there's no way that the driver

(57:25):
could see out the window. There's no possible way. And
it happened. And this is going on for maybe three
or four seconds of the most and then all the
windows finally go down, because it was just the front
windows before that. And as I started, you know, it's
it's billowing out and it's kind of clearing out in
the car a little bit, not much, but it's still
in there. And as I started to kind of edge
up next to the vehicle, I see what's going on.

(57:45):
The guy is inside his car. He's smoking one of
those hookah pipes, you know, hooka hookah, Yeah, you know
what those are, right, I mean I think like a
bowl looking type thing that has a tube coming off
of it. I don't know how to describe it better
than that. It's like a big water pipe, right, Yeah,
it's something you would picture h digon smoking. You're Genie smoking, Well,
you can look it up. There's I mean, you could

(58:06):
find hookah bars and things like that around so he
can find out what a hookah actually is. But this
thing was smoking like crazy legal to do that, you
know what. I have a feeling that it's not based
on what I saw, because it was clearly obstructing his view.
There's no way that he for that for those at
least that four or five seconds, there's no way that
he could have seen to drive. So if he was

(58:27):
at speed and that happened, there would have been some major,
major problems. I don't know if he felt comfortable enough
to do this while he was, you know, going slow
in traffic. I mean, that's worse than texting. Maybe he
just couldn't wait. Hooka what you call it when you
smoke it? Do hooka? I don't know. I mean, it
was just so bizarre. I mean, I I swear my
I'll tell you what my initial thought was. My first

(58:49):
thought was this guy's cooking meth in his car. I
thought it was a I thought it was like a
rolling meth lab type situation, you know, I thought I
and I thought there was an inadvertent fire, like a
you know, mistake. Sure right, that was my initial thought
because I truly thought this car was on fire. It
was that that smoky. Well, I hope the guy is okay. Yeah,
well he was okay. I saw him drive on. I

(59:09):
mean it cleared out, you know that we weren't going anywhere,
so it wasn't like there's a lot of air flow
through the car or whatever. But it took a while
and it was just one of those bizarre things that
happens occasionally, and you know, you don't have time to
pull out the phone and take a quick photo, and
it would have been dangerous to do. So what a
what a bad decision maker, A bad idea to smoke
a hookah while you're driving, to hooka while you're driving.
It was so weird. It was just on the seat

(59:31):
next to him, but it was a big, big hookah
pipe that he was strange. Well, if you are listening
to our show and you are that guy who was
smoking the hookah, please write to us I'd love to
hear the arresting this story. What were you doing? Yeah,
so we're gonna go ahead and get out of here, folks.
We'd like to give a big thank you to Jerome, Rudy, Brad,
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(59:57):
Josh and Glenn. I hope I didn't miss anybody us
be well, I've been writing these well I know, but still,
I mean, that's that's quite a list. And you know what,
we again, we didn't get to all of them. Right, So,
if you have written to us and we did not
get to your letter, never fear, because something tells me
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