March 21, 2024 • 29 mins
Mia and James discuss how Democratic lawmakers are using national deployments and rafts of anti-crime laws to run a crime panic fueled authoritarian crackdown.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Also media, welcome jac and appen here.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The podcast We're Getting Medication takes like four fucking hours
because of a bunch of unbelievable bureaucratic bullshit. I your
host Neo Wong, who was asked by by pharmacists today
and I quote, have you been pregnant or have there
been pregnancies?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So I like, have that being pregnancies? Yeah? That was
when I was like, what shooting of human life?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
She like, she walks up to the thing, right, and
she she she puts the like she puts the meds
like like she's about to ring them up right, and
then she stops and then turns and walks with other person,
starts talking to her boss, and then comes back and then.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Asks me if their pregnancies. I'm like what it's like,
I am not passing.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm just wearing I'm just wearing like jeans, like a mask.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's like a random coat. It is. So it's been
a it's been a time, yeah, achievement in the world
of healthcare where they can simultaneously like ask you for
being pregnant and then make you fucking labor unpaid for
half a day to obtain your like basic hormone therapy
or whatever it is that you need. Like, my favorite
(01:20):
is when the health insurance makes me this just existing
podcast about health insurance and now we hate it. Have
you enjoying it? When they're they're like, hey, we need
a doctor to confirm you still need to instantly? What
the fuck do you think has happened? You would have
heard about it. I didn't at home. Pancreas transplant didn't
(01:41):
bill you guys for it. You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah. With with me is James who is from a
country that is more normal about healthcare.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
But yeah, the right word, but.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's less ship is the correct word, unless you're trans
in which case it's about as.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, country which
has a different approach at least at least like has
accepted the fact that if we're going to have the
state pay for like sending bombs to kill little children
in Palestine, it should also pay for my incident, which
I think is a good a good place to start.
I guess, yeah, there's an ideal combination there. No we
(02:22):
no one has yet reached.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
This is this is this is the task of international socialism,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah. Yeah, I will accept the necessity of the state
only when it funds incident, not bonds.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, but we we are here to talk about another
incredibly violent state bureaucracy and the people who run it.
We're gonna be talking about a series of very bizarre
and incredibly authoritarian crackdown so that democratic well governors, city councils,
many many such cases, yeah, have have been have been
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invoking two nominally cracked down on crime, a thing that
is down everywhere and has been down everywhere for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, I in many such cases. It's great that the
Democrat like local politicians are now doing everything that we
were warned that Republican president would do four years ago.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, it's really fun and I mean this is one
of these things. So the place we're going to start
is New York governor cultural I think houtral Yeah, I
don't know. New York keeps going through politicians faster, and
I can learn how to pronounce their names. So with
what they're gonna have, like Andrew Clobo, the fourth in power,
by the time this episode goes out, there'll be like
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two There have been two new Kings of England.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
The secret sibling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not making a
podcast about the royal family. Nonsense, we don't care, no, no,
this is.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
This is this is the best that you're getting out
of that. But yeah, so Houtral has deployed seven hundred
and fifty National guardsmen to stand outside of some subway stations.
That's a tone wister. Try saying that one five times
the beast in the mirror to like do bag checks
and generally just sort of stand around and be intimidating.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, it's great. I'm sure it's what those people signed
up to do. I'm sure they feel fulfilled, and I'm
sure everyone in New York feels safer and happier as
a result of random people in camouflage being standing around
a subway. Yeah, and we're going to get into this sort.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Of emotional effective aspect of this, because that is ultimately
what this is about. But I think, okay, there's a
lot of sort of interesting aspects of this. So okay,
there's been a lot of talk about what the sort
of precursors to this are, and I'm gonna ask you
about because there's a lot of national there's a lot
of very weird, absolutely dog shit National Guard deployments that
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have happened.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yes, yeah, yes there are I have Yeah, yeah, we
can get onto that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, but I think I think the most immediate predecessor
to this that that leaps to mind. This is on
thing I talk about on the show all the time,
because everyone else seems to have completely forgotten it. I
refused to let this be memory hold. Which is the
time that my previous shitty mayor ordered a bunch of
in twenty twenty, ordered a bunch This is in February
twenty twenty. This is this is pre uprising. Put just
started putting swat teams on subways. Oh great, They immediately
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did the thing that swat team does, which is they
started putting swat teams on the fucking red line. The
immediately shot a guy for no reason, like I think
I if I'm remembering correctly, the thing that originally they
said it was fairrivation, And it wasn't fairrivation. It was
the guy walked from one train car to another train car,
a thing that like millions of people do every day.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, and capital punishment for ferrivation is also wrong. I'm bad.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, Well, look this guy somehow survived. They shot him back,
but yeah, they also tasted him a bunch of times
and then shot him, so right, good, yeah bad. However,
thankfully this guy survived. But yeah, but this is something
that that happens. This is only that you know, with
the current crop of right wing mayors have been doing
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and you know, the twenty twenty one end, it was
such a fiasco that even even like Chicago's machine well
it wasn't really quite rechea, but like even Chicago's right
wing Democrats were like, Okay, we probably shouldn't do this
lest the swat teams have their like start the killing moment.
But you know, so that that's like one sort of
predecessor to this, And the second one is I wanted
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to actually ask you specifically about the Federal National Guard
deployments on the border because I think, yes, that's the
part of this has just been like disappeared.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yes, exactly. Again, those have been like completely overlooked and
kind of memory hold by most apparently like since since
Biden came to power. Like there's there's a Texas state
deployment right which we're very familiar with. They get cheated
out of their their benefits. They tend to die from
suicide from bringing their own firearms on deployment or getting
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drunk and driving around. They've had like higher casualties, and
they've had deployments to a rock in their the Texas deployment, right,
the federal one is different. I see these dudes often.
It'sneely always dudes. Of course women could be deployed in
the capacity, but I haven't seen them, and they are for
the most part, like scared kids with firearms guarding prison
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camps full of children. Like I had one of these
guys go to drawers pistol on me the other day
because I was trying to alert him. Yeah, I mean,
like I guess, like it's it better in that situation that,
like it's not my first time having someone draw a
pistol on me, and I can tell them to sit
down and stop being a dick. But this in this
case where someone had was experiencing cardiac distress and I'd
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gone to the nearest person who I can do, right,
Like I can't call an ambults and having to come
in there. I have to go to either get BP
to radio or in this case National Guide. But what
they're doing is in addition to like guarding these open
air attention sites on and off. Is they are conducting
kind of surveillance along the border. So often see them
with like surveillance arraysed cameras, I assume also like listening
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to radios and stuff like that. They're not actually like
interdicting or resting vigrants. They're not supposed to be anyway.
But what they's supposed to be doing is that that
kind of having that surveillance capacity and I guess protection
when it comes to the to the o ADS. But yeah,
they are everywhere, Like I see these people all the
time down here in you know, certainly on their eastern
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San Diego County border, and and they're all in rented
vehicles as well, which is weird that they haven't got
their humvees or whatever. It must be a significant expense.
And obviously border crossings are not decreasing thanks to them
being there, right they you know, they mostly like cruiser.
I was out doing a water drop on Sunday and
you'll see them cruising around the dirt roads and then
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obviously people therefore just avoid the road. It doesn't make
it doesn't reduce migration like everything else. It just makes
it more dangerous. But yeah, they've been here for a while.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It's one of these things where you know they're they're
doing okay. So like the guys in New York just
basically seem to be standing around and doing bag checks,
whereas those guys are doing a lot more. But I
think there's one of the things that's been happening here
and this has been this is you know, this is
not just the focus has been on on the like
the Republican textas deployments, right, but this is something that
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both the Republicans and the Democrats. This is from what
we're seeking to ease. Yes, and the federal government have decided that,
you know, the thing that we are going to be
doing is what are what are and I mean active
militia deployments Like that's insane like that that is a
level of that is a level of authoritarianism. That is
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you know that that has become effectively normal, right, Like
there was there wasn't I mean, there was kind of
an outcry against the subway stuff, but like it hasn't stopped,
like as best I could tell, like they're still out
like yeah, like it not that all of it stopped.
It that we've been you know what the thing that
we've been forced to accept is not even not just
you know, because we've already been forced to accept the
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sort of the militarization of the police, right, but now
it's just straight up the total militarization of society to
the extent that like, yeah, we just have a bunch
of soldiers wandering around doing like random security checks and
doing surveillance and like holding people in these open air prisons.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, exactly, and like deployed way outside their stay often, right,
Like I think some of the people hear from Missouri
or Illinois, like some of them the less kind of
insane are you, You know, the people who mistake me
if I guess for a member of the cartel, judging
by that guy's actions or like some ridiculous somehow a
threat to him. You know that we can talk to them,
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and yeah, it's it's a very bullshit mission. And I
think most of them would agree. Like further east, they're
just like standing around by the border wall and the
baking sun in the desert, just just yea doing security theater,
but with as you said, real consequences.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, And it's like the thing that is happening is
these people have realized that the National Guard, if you
are a senior enough state official, is just your private army.
You could do whatever the fuck you want with it.
And this is the thing that they're doing with it,
and I think you should. You know, it's worth looking
at what the sort of justification for this is.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Which are probably also I neglected to mention that there
are a dozen Republican governments governors who have deployed their
National Guard to the border, right like not as part
of the federal deployment, like to your private army thing.
And I believe that North Dakota it's funded by a
private individual, Like a private individual is covering the state's
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costs to deploy them to the border. Like this is nuts, yeah,
fully insane, like serving as a fucking PMC.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, but I mean we're seeing, you know, very explicitly,
we're seeing this fusion of like personal state and corporate
power and that's being used to just deploy a bunch
of guys with guns to a bunch of random places.
And you know, like it's worth mentioning that, Like crime
rates are down, they're down year on year, they're down,
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like the broad trend is down. They're down, like like
outrageous like I think it's not like almost like fifty
percent or something from the nineties, right.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, And likewise, the ratio of people crossing the border
to agents to process and is it's much lower than
it was in the nineties. You know, we have more
border patrol agents, we have a more militarized board patrol.
They have all these assets that were previously seen only
like see a black Hawk all the fucking time. So
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like we call it a scrap hawk. It's like it's
like several several black Hawks. It's like it's not any
particular submodel of black Hawk. It's like the surviving pieces
of several black Hawks. But yeah, they have a lot
of kit that you would think would be military kit.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, And you know, so I was I so when
I was really good about this, I was like, Okay,
so try how many crimes are actually happy on New
York subway system. But I'm going to read this paragraph
from Reuters because it is it is outrageous. There were
thirty eight robberies and seventy thefts, including pickpocketing, on the
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subway system in February, compared to forty robberies and ninety
eight thefts in the same month last year, according to
police data, there were thirty five assaults, the same number
as for February twenty twenty three. About ninety million trips
were taken on the subway over the month. Now that
is nuts the subway, including pickpocketing, right, you're at about
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one hundred.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, reveal a trivial number of incidents.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Ninety million trips, right, This means that like per trip,
your odds of being pickpocketed are almost literally one in
a million. This is this is about the same odds
you have of being struck by lightning. You are seventeen
times more likely to get killed by a b or
bopsting than you are like pickpock, like pickpock, not even robbed,
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pickpocketed on the subway. Right, So there's I from what
I can do, I think there was three killings on
the New York Subway in February.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, that was a shooting. I think today yesterday wasn't that.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, but this is the thing, So these things
gonna get a lot of attention.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But again, thirty million trips, we're talking like maybe three
maybe four people getting killed a month, So that's like
one in thirty million rides. Yeah, someone gets shot. That's
outrageously safe, Like that is bafflingly startlingly safe. But this,
this sort of brings us to Wow. Okay, the thing,
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the thing that this immediately brings us to is an
ad break.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But it will be a second thing.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, great, I it's a good one.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
All right, we're back for the ads. We're bringing you
actually amazingly advertisements. Part of what part of the whole
thing's happening here, because you know, one of the one
of the big drivers of what's happening in New York
and the reason everyone thinks the subway is unsafe is
New York's media market and very this is a like
you know, so like the media market in the US
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is not good, right, but very specifically, the New York
media market is absolutely batshit. They are nuts. And this
is one of these things where you know, you may
have like a one in thirty million chance of getting
killed on a subway, but every single one of those
thirty million like incidents, like why all those one thirty
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million is every single one of those is like front
page news, right, because this is you know, this, this
is both part of the part of the actual sort
of conservative politics of these media organizations. They are you know,
New York media market is dominated by a bunch of
right wing tabloids and a bunch of newspapers that are
normally not right wing but are. Yeah, and so you know,
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there's this sort of breathless coverage of every single time
one of these attacks happened. And this is one of
one of the things that Hutu very much like literally
says about this. And you know, like we're at a
point in this sort of crime cycle where enough journalists
have been screamed at by people who are like the
crime rates are all down, that the journalists have to
include in the article a thing that's like the crime
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rates are down. This took like four years of just
screaming at them. Eventually it worked. But you know, like
Kuhl's like asked about this and she goes, yeah, well,
it's it's about people feeling. It's about that, like the
feeling that people have because they don't they don't seem
to this n yeah, yeah, And you know, and this
is one of these things where like this is like
how insane the New York media market is over this
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stuff has had like an actual substance of political impact,
and this is something that you know, the Democrats embrace
of this sort of like, especially in New York, this
like tough on crime thing has gotten to the point
we're literally Eric Adams has to be the guy who's like, no, no, no,
actually hold on, like it's the New York is safe.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Please stop panicking. I got my bag, got.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
My police funding already, Please stop like fleeing the city
in terror.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, it's amusing though. That's similar to what's happening in
San Diego, another city Democrat councilor mayor. Right, so we
have this Gloria terrible mayor, serial bullshitter, and Gloria in
the State of the City speech was saying we should
be locking up criminals, not laundry detergent. This was his
big line. He was very proud of I have successfully
purchased laundry detergent that was not incarcerated since then. But
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I think he was talking about target. I guess apparently
he's legislating for the interest of target. But you have
then his opponent in the Maora race, who's a former
marine cop Republican guy, being like, yo, I think we
fucked up on our homelessness policy. We're just like criminalizing.
This is not just the answer. And we've got Gloria
to being like, no, lock him up, you know, like
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they're trying to push this. Is this continued, like this
California bill that will force incarcerate people with mental illness
right against their will. Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's fucking
I mean, it's not bizarre because, like I think, so
many Democrats and like certainly publications here have really leaned
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into like suburban grievance politics and you know, like fixed
the potholes and make it so I don't have to
see poor people is their entire ideology. But it's still
I know, it's just kind of I don't I'm struggling
for the words here. It makes me really fucking pissed off.
The people who showed up to one or two BLM
marches are now out there like barking for a second
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border wall and machine gunning the unhoused.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, and you know, and this has had a especially
in New York, this has had an actual This has
been having a substantive, like electoral impact. One of the
stories that kind of got buried in twenty twenty two
is that you can actually if you look at the
electoral map in twenty twenty two, you can actually literally
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see where the New York media market ends, because all
of the districts in the New York media market became
significantly more conservative. And this is this is and this
is not a joke. This is literally this whole tough
on crime shit is literally the thing like and in
this New York media market, this this is what caused
the Democrats the House because basically everywhere else in the
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country there was okay, so like like red districts shifted red.
Every single district that was contested, like all of the
sort of like purple blah blahh like the districts they
all went, they all shifted to the left because of
abortion stuff. But then specifically a bunch of the like
what are supposed to be like very safe blue districts
went red because they were all because all of them
were doing this insane tough on crime stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And those seats, like the seats they.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Lost in New York are the reason the Republicans have
control of the House. So like, you know, this isn't
working for them electorally, but they're still doing it because
it's their ideology and we're gonna get into a bit
more about why about that that part a second, But
before we do that, I want to talk about I
think another one of these things that has gotten kind
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of lost in the shuffle, which is do you do
you do you You heard about the giant like DC crime
Omnibus bill.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
About this? Yeah? Yeah, Like I will say, I'm not
familiar with it other than like herring that it's bad. Yeah,
so okay.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So so in DC, the City Council passed this enormous
sort of like giant set of like omnibus set of
like policies are supposed to be there, like keep DC
safe crime omnibus thing.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
There's a couple of things to note about this. One
is that it's actually not as bad as it was
originally going to be because there was so much like uproar,
because I mean, the original one like had provisions that
was like banning masks at protests and ship and it
was like it was really bad and it got like nuked.
But it's still really bad, and there's a lot of
it's a lot of really weird kind of grievance stuff,
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Like there's this provision specifically that's supposed to be about
like like targeting quote quote organized retail theft, which is
one of the insane.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
This is yeah, this is one of the most like
storm in a teacups that has been going for a
while now.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, But I mean there's also kind of like there's
just a standard police stuff, which is it They're they're
trying to expand pre trial attention on which they did.
One of the the absolutely insane ones that have been
declared unconstitutional, but apparently they're just back now is allowing
police chiefs to designate certain areas quote drug free zones.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Where yeah see, I'm I'm I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
But basically what it lets it basically, what it lets
you do is it lets the cops just harass a
bunch of people even more than they already do, like
mostly mostly what it does is just when you declare
one of these areas it's where all the black people are,
and then the cops just have cops in like an
incredible like incredibly increased ability to just randomly stop people
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and search them.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Right and yeah, ship stop and frisk law. Yeah, there's there.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So there there is a thing that like part of
the Mask provision stayed in force, which is that they're
making it. Basically, it's like like wearing a mask with
the intent to commit a crime is a crime, right,
the cops like determine, right, your intent, So like, yeah,
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it's one of those laws.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like they do this a lot with gun laws, right,
they passed gun laws. It don't make anything that wasn't
already illegal illegal. They just make it so that if
they if you, if you, if you're caught, you're going
to prison for longer.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Now, yeah, this this is actually there are there are
provisions like that in this too. There's also a bunch
of random like gun provisions. There's all the like more
nuts ones, like there's there's one where cops can arrest you.
So if if they're trying to cite you for not
paying a toll, if they they they claim that you
didn't pay a you didn't like pay a transit fare,
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you have to give them your full name and address
and if they don't, and if you don't, they can
arrest you.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Which is nuts. This is like don't disrespect me on
the train in front of everyone, nor, isn't it? That's
what that is. It gets There's another one. There's another
one which is like I I don't I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Have another way to describe it other than this is
the this is the how to get Away with Murder bill,
which is this is so one of the things that
they're doing is letting cops review their own helmet footage
before police inquiries.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Right, ah, this is.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
This is the get the narrative straight bill?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Do you also get to edit it? I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Well, okay, so here's here's the thing about that quote
unquote No, however come these things mysteriously vanish time serious?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
He disappears.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, there's also like a whole thing about like there
are certain groups of people who the cops can just
like force DNA collections from.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Oh wow, which is.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's a lot less broad than it used to be.
But yeah, it's still a provision in there.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
But yeah, this is a.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Nightmare's bill that they've been able to pass. And you know,
I think it's worth thinking about why this is actually happening,
which is that all of this stuff, all of these
are are sort of long range reaction to twenty twenty. Right,
this is this, This was the sort of strategy after
twenty twenty for rebuilding legitimacy of the police, and you know,
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and and and also now rebuilding sort of rebuilding the
I don't know, psychological capacity, I guess to you know,
I mean, just deploy a bunch of troops on US soil,
right right.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, sort of building up that tolerant Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And you know, like this is all of this stuff
is sort of born on you know, on on on
protest crackdowns on one of the things that's also sort
of worth noting about. This is all of this stuff.
I mean, the DC crime build but in the works
for a long time. But the subway stuff is all
stuff that happened like pretty quickly after they air ambush
and all self in Malaysian. So a big part of
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this has been the sort of the democratic ruling class
kind of losing their minds after watching how widespread twenty
twenty was, watching the extent to which they were forced
to like you know, like like there are democratic politicians
in twenty twenty like talking about like I mean, there
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are like elected people talking about defunding the police. There
are like they're all remember the weird like like that
whole like kneeling thing in Congress they all do oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
The pitch of the morning Ken take with yeah, yeah,
ooh yeah. Powerful in sense of cringe.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, but there's a lot of like, you know, there's
there's just the sort of memory of that has been
has been sort of drilled deep into into the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And so what has been.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Happening like like you know, and that what's been happening,
and this has been happening in blue states very explicitly
is this is this strategy of hypermilitarization with the explicit
like not explicit, sorry, with the implicit but not very
well concealed goal of putting everyone back in their place
after twenty twenty. And that is extremely grim. I mean,
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I think, I don't know, I'm glad the DC stuff
isn't as bad as it was original because the original
one we're just like straight up a bunch of fascist shit.
This is also fascist shit, but like not as unhinged
as the original bills were. So you know, it's like
like the tide of this stuff isn't inevitable, right, but
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also very very powerful factions of the Democratic Party have
decided that this is the thing that they want to do,
and it absolutely sucks, and you know, and and and
and this is you know, and this is in a
similar way to sort of the stuff on the border
being bipartists. I mean, at some point I'm going to
do an episode about the absolute shit show that's been
happening in Chicago where yeah, they're like a a kid
(27:16):
got fucking measles in one of these and one of
the micro shelters and Pilsen in Chicago, and now the
mayor's like evicting a bunch of a bunch of people
from the bigrant shelters. Jesus, you know, so like there's
a bi I mean, this is the thing like in Chicago.
I mean there's just outside of like you know, we're
like outside of just like basically every like Walgreens or
(27:40):
just on street corners, there's a bunch of refugee families
like just sitting out there in the cold, trying to
get some money because there's fucking nothing for them here.
And this is a bipartisan you know, this is this
is a bipartisan political project.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Of you know, just sort of terror inflicted on most
at people in society.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, it's it's really depressing to hear that, just because
I know that, like, you know, I see people here
and then they get out and my friends see them,
and we turn into the airport and my friends feed
them and look after them there, and they get on
their planes and we hope for the best for them,
you know, and then then yeah, they just go to
some other city where some other dog shit democrats who
lied four years ago is gonna do everything they can
(28:26):
to make life as hard for them as possible.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
The good thing is you have to vote for them
while you're voting for fascismo oray. How sad?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah that that that That's what I got today. We'll
be back tomorrow with something.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
What are we back there? Yeah, it will be a podcast.
It's with tomorrow Friday. Oh yeah, tomorrow's Gaza day. So
it's not getting anty better for you. Yeah, lucky you,
lucky you. Tomorrow we'll be hearing from our friends at
park or Gaza.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
The podcast We're Getting Medication takes like four fucking hours
because of a bunch of unbelievable bureaucratic bullshit. I your
host Neo Wong, who was asked by by pharmacists today
and I quote, have you been pregnant or have there
been pregnancies?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So I like, have that being pregnancies? Yeah? That was
when I was like, what shooting of human life?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
She like, she walks up to the thing, right, and
she she she puts the like she puts the meds
like like she's about to ring them up right, and
then she stops and then turns and walks with other person,
starts talking to her boss, and then comes back and then.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Asks me if their pregnancies. I'm like what it's like,
I am not passing.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm just wearing I'm just wearing like jeans, like a mask.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
It's like a random coat. It is. So it's been
a it's been a time, yeah, achievement in the world
of healthcare where they can simultaneously like ask you for
being pregnant and then make you fucking labor unpaid for
half a day to obtain your like basic hormone therapy
or whatever it is that you need. Like, my favorite
(01:20):
is when the health insurance makes me this just existing
podcast about health insurance and now we hate it. Have
you enjoying it? When they're they're like, hey, we need
a doctor to confirm you still need to instantly? What
the fuck do you think has happened? You would have
heard about it. I didn't at home. Pancreas transplant didn't
(01:41):
bill you guys for it. You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah. With with me is James who is from a
country that is more normal about healthcare.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
But yeah, the right word, but.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's less ship is the correct word, unless you're trans
in which case it's about as.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, country which
has a different approach at least at least like has
accepted the fact that if we're going to have the
state pay for like sending bombs to kill little children
in Palestine, it should also pay for my incident, which
I think is a good a good place to start.
I guess, yeah, there's an ideal combination there. No we
(02:22):
no one has yet reached.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
This is this is this is the task of international socialism,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah. Yeah, I will accept the necessity of the state
only when it funds incident, not bonds.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, but we we are here to talk about another
incredibly violent state bureaucracy and the people who run it.
We're gonna be talking about a series of very bizarre
and incredibly authoritarian crackdown so that democratic well governors, city councils,
many many such cases, yeah, have have been have been
(02:57):
invoking two nominally cracked down on crime, a thing that
is down everywhere and has been down everywhere for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, I in many such cases. It's great that the
Democrat like local politicians are now doing everything that we
were warned that Republican president would do four years ago.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, it's really fun and I mean this is one
of these things. So the place we're going to start
is New York governor cultural I think houtral Yeah, I
don't know. New York keeps going through politicians faster, and
I can learn how to pronounce their names. So with
what they're gonna have, like Andrew Clobo, the fourth in power,
by the time this episode goes out, there'll be like
(03:39):
two There have been two new Kings of England.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
The secret sibling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're not making a
podcast about the royal family. Nonsense, we don't care, no, no,
this is.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
This is this is the best that you're getting out
of that. But yeah, so Houtral has deployed seven hundred
and fifty National guardsmen to stand outside of some subway stations.
That's a tone wister. Try saying that one five times
the beast in the mirror to like do bag checks
and generally just sort of stand around and be intimidating.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, it's great. I'm sure it's what those people signed
up to do. I'm sure they feel fulfilled, and I'm
sure everyone in New York feels safer and happier as
a result of random people in camouflage being standing around
a subway. Yeah, and we're going to get into this sort.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Of emotional effective aspect of this, because that is ultimately
what this is about. But I think, okay, there's a
lot of sort of interesting aspects of this. So okay,
there's been a lot of talk about what the sort
of precursors to this are, and I'm gonna ask you
about because there's a lot of national there's a lot
of very weird, absolutely dog shit National Guard deployments that
(04:47):
have happened.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yes, yeah, yes there are I have Yeah, yeah, we
can get onto that.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, but I think I think the most immediate predecessor
to this that that leaps to mind. This is on
thing I talk about on the show all the time,
because everyone else seems to have completely forgotten it. I
refused to let this be memory hold. Which is the
time that my previous shitty mayor ordered a bunch of
in twenty twenty, ordered a bunch This is in February
twenty twenty. This is this is pre uprising. Put just
started putting swat teams on subways. Oh great, They immediately
(05:16):
did the thing that swat team does, which is they
started putting swat teams on the fucking red line. The
immediately shot a guy for no reason, like I think
I if I'm remembering correctly, the thing that originally they
said it was fairrivation, And it wasn't fairrivation. It was
the guy walked from one train car to another train car,
a thing that like millions of people do every day.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, and capital punishment for ferrivation is also wrong. I'm bad.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, Well, look this guy somehow survived. They shot him back,
but yeah, they also tasted him a bunch of times
and then shot him, so right, good, yeah bad. However,
thankfully this guy survived. But yeah, but this is something
that that happens. This is only that you know, with
the current crop of right wing mayors have been doing
(06:03):
and you know, the twenty twenty one end, it was
such a fiasco that even even like Chicago's machine well
it wasn't really quite rechea, but like even Chicago's right
wing Democrats were like, Okay, we probably shouldn't do this
lest the swat teams have their like start the killing moment.
But you know, so that that's like one sort of
predecessor to this, And the second one is I wanted
(06:24):
to actually ask you specifically about the Federal National Guard
deployments on the border because I think, yes, that's the
part of this has just been like disappeared.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yes, exactly. Again, those have been like completely overlooked and
kind of memory hold by most apparently like since since
Biden came to power. Like there's there's a Texas state
deployment right which we're very familiar with. They get cheated
out of their their benefits. They tend to die from
suicide from bringing their own firearms on deployment or getting
(06:56):
drunk and driving around. They've had like higher casualties, and
they've had deployments to a rock in their the Texas deployment, right,
the federal one is different. I see these dudes often.
It'sneely always dudes. Of course women could be deployed in
the capacity, but I haven't seen them, and they are for
the most part, like scared kids with firearms guarding prison
(07:16):
camps full of children. Like I had one of these
guys go to drawers pistol on me the other day
because I was trying to alert him. Yeah, I mean,
like I guess, like it's it better in that situation that,
like it's not my first time having someone draw a
pistol on me, and I can tell them to sit
down and stop being a dick. But this in this
case where someone had was experiencing cardiac distress and I'd
(07:40):
gone to the nearest person who I can do, right,
Like I can't call an ambults and having to come
in there. I have to go to either get BP
to radio or in this case National Guide. But what
they're doing is in addition to like guarding these open
air attention sites on and off. Is they are conducting
kind of surveillance along the border. So often see them
with like surveillance arraysed cameras, I assume also like listening
(08:04):
to radios and stuff like that. They're not actually like
interdicting or resting vigrants. They're not supposed to be anyway.
But what they's supposed to be doing is that that
kind of having that surveillance capacity and I guess protection
when it comes to the to the o ADS. But yeah,
they are everywhere, Like I see these people all the
time down here in you know, certainly on their eastern
(08:28):
San Diego County border, and and they're all in rented
vehicles as well, which is weird that they haven't got
their humvees or whatever. It must be a significant expense.
And obviously border crossings are not decreasing thanks to them
being there, right they you know, they mostly like cruiser.
I was out doing a water drop on Sunday and
you'll see them cruising around the dirt roads and then
(08:49):
obviously people therefore just avoid the road. It doesn't make
it doesn't reduce migration like everything else. It just makes
it more dangerous. But yeah, they've been here for a while.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It's one of these things where you know they're they're
doing okay. So like the guys in New York just
basically seem to be standing around and doing bag checks,
whereas those guys are doing a lot more. But I
think there's one of the things that's been happening here
and this has been this is you know, this is
not just the focus has been on on the like
the Republican textas deployments, right, but this is something that
(09:23):
both the Republicans and the Democrats. This is from what
we're seeking to ease. Yes, and the federal government have decided that,
you know, the thing that we are going to be
doing is what are what are and I mean active
militia deployments Like that's insane like that that is a
level of that is a level of authoritarianism. That is
(09:48):
you know that that has become effectively normal, right, Like
there was there wasn't I mean, there was kind of
an outcry against the subway stuff, but like it hasn't stopped,
like as best I could tell, like they're still out
like yeah, like it not that all of it stopped.
It that we've been you know what the thing that
we've been forced to accept is not even not just
you know, because we've already been forced to accept the
(10:09):
sort of the militarization of the police, right, but now
it's just straight up the total militarization of society to
the extent that like, yeah, we just have a bunch
of soldiers wandering around doing like random security checks and
doing surveillance and like holding people in these open air prisons.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, exactly, and like deployed way outside their stay often, right,
Like I think some of the people hear from Missouri
or Illinois, like some of them the less kind of
insane are you, You know, the people who mistake me
if I guess for a member of the cartel, judging
by that guy's actions or like some ridiculous somehow a
threat to him. You know that we can talk to them,
(10:45):
and yeah, it's it's a very bullshit mission. And I
think most of them would agree. Like further east, they're
just like standing around by the border wall and the
baking sun in the desert, just just yea doing security theater,
but with as you said, real consequences.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, And it's like the thing that is happening is
these people have realized that the National Guard, if you
are a senior enough state official, is just your private army.
You could do whatever the fuck you want with it.
And this is the thing that they're doing with it,
and I think you should. You know, it's worth looking
at what the sort of justification for this is.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Which are probably also I neglected to mention that there
are a dozen Republican governments governors who have deployed their
National Guard to the border, right like not as part
of the federal deployment, like to your private army thing.
And I believe that North Dakota it's funded by a
private individual, Like a private individual is covering the state's
(11:39):
costs to deploy them to the border. Like this is nuts, yeah,
fully insane, like serving as a fucking PMC.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, but I mean we're seeing, you know, very explicitly,
we're seeing this fusion of like personal state and corporate
power and that's being used to just deploy a bunch
of guys with guns to a bunch of random places.
And you know, like it's worth mentioning that, Like crime
rates are down, they're down year on year, they're down,
(12:07):
like the broad trend is down. They're down, like like
outrageous like I think it's not like almost like fifty
percent or something from the nineties, right.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, And likewise, the ratio of people crossing the border
to agents to process and is it's much lower than
it was in the nineties. You know, we have more
border patrol agents, we have a more militarized board patrol.
They have all these assets that were previously seen only
like see a black Hawk all the fucking time. So
(12:37):
like we call it a scrap hawk. It's like it's
like several several black Hawks. It's like it's not any
particular submodel of black Hawk. It's like the surviving pieces
of several black Hawks. But yeah, they have a lot
of kit that you would think would be military kit.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, And you know, so I was I so when
I was really good about this, I was like, Okay,
so try how many crimes are actually happy on New
York subway system. But I'm going to read this paragraph
from Reuters because it is it is outrageous. There were
thirty eight robberies and seventy thefts, including pickpocketing, on the
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subway system in February, compared to forty robberies and ninety
eight thefts in the same month last year, according to
police data, there were thirty five assaults, the same number
as for February twenty twenty three. About ninety million trips
were taken on the subway over the month. Now that
is nuts the subway, including pickpocketing, right, you're at about
(13:38):
one hundred.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, yeah, reveal a trivial number of incidents.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Ninety million trips, right, This means that like per trip,
your odds of being pickpocketed are almost literally one in
a million. This is this is about the same odds
you have of being struck by lightning. You are seventeen
times more likely to get killed by a b or
bopsting than you are like pickpock, like pickpock, not even robbed,
(14:05):
pickpocketed on the subway. Right, So there's I from what
I can do, I think there was three killings on
the New York Subway in February.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, that was a shooting. I think today yesterday wasn't that.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, but this is the thing, So these things
gonna get a lot of attention.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But again, thirty million trips, we're talking like maybe three
maybe four people getting killed a month, So that's like
one in thirty million rides. Yeah, someone gets shot. That's
outrageously safe, Like that is bafflingly startlingly safe. But this,
this sort of brings us to Wow. Okay, the thing,
(14:43):
the thing that this immediately brings us to is an
ad break.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But it will be a second thing.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, great, I it's a good one.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
All right, we're back for the ads. We're bringing you
actually amazingly advertisements. Part of what part of the whole
thing's happening here, because you know, one of the one
of the big drivers of what's happening in New York
and the reason everyone thinks the subway is unsafe is
New York's media market and very this is a like
you know, so like the media market in the US
(15:23):
is not good, right, but very specifically, the New York
media market is absolutely batshit. They are nuts. And this
is one of these things where you know, you may
have like a one in thirty million chance of getting
killed on a subway, but every single one of those
thirty million like incidents, like why all those one thirty
(15:44):
million is every single one of those is like front
page news, right, because this is you know, this, this
is both part of the part of the actual sort
of conservative politics of these media organizations. They are you know,
New York media market is dominated by a bunch of
right wing tabloids and a bunch of newspapers that are
normally not right wing but are. Yeah, and so you know,
(16:05):
there's this sort of breathless coverage of every single time
one of these attacks happened. And this is one of
one of the things that Hutu very much like literally
says about this. And you know, like we're at a
point in this sort of crime cycle where enough journalists
have been screamed at by people who are like the
crime rates are all down, that the journalists have to
include in the article a thing that's like the crime
(16:25):
rates are down. This took like four years of just
screaming at them. Eventually it worked. But you know, like
Kuhl's like asked about this and she goes, yeah, well,
it's it's about people feeling. It's about that, like the
feeling that people have because they don't they don't seem
to this n yeah, yeah, And you know, and this
is one of these things where like this is like
how insane the New York media market is over this
(16:45):
stuff has had like an actual substance of political impact,
and this is something that you know, the Democrats embrace
of this sort of like, especially in New York, this
like tough on crime thing has gotten to the point
we're literally Eric Adams has to be the guy who's like, no, no, no,
actually hold on, like it's the New York is safe.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Please stop panicking. I got my bag, got.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
My police funding already, Please stop like fleeing the city
in terror.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, it's amusing though. That's similar to what's happening in
San Diego, another city Democrat councilor mayor. Right, so we
have this Gloria terrible mayor, serial bullshitter, and Gloria in
the State of the City speech was saying we should
be locking up criminals, not laundry detergent. This was his
big line. He was very proud of I have successfully
purchased laundry detergent that was not incarcerated since then. But
(17:33):
I think he was talking about target. I guess apparently
he's legislating for the interest of target. But you have
then his opponent in the Maora race, who's a former
marine cop Republican guy, being like, yo, I think we
fucked up on our homelessness policy. We're just like criminalizing.
This is not just the answer. And we've got Gloria
to being like, no, lock him up, you know, like
(17:56):
they're trying to push this. Is this continued, like this
California bill that will force incarcerate people with mental illness
right against their will. Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's fucking
I mean, it's not bizarre because, like I think, so
many Democrats and like certainly publications here have really leaned
(18:16):
into like suburban grievance politics and you know, like fixed
the potholes and make it so I don't have to
see poor people is their entire ideology. But it's still
I know, it's just kind of I don't I'm struggling
for the words here. It makes me really fucking pissed off.
The people who showed up to one or two BLM
marches are now out there like barking for a second
(18:39):
border wall and machine gunning the unhoused.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, and you know, and this has had a especially
in New York, this has had an actual This has
been having a substantive, like electoral impact. One of the
stories that kind of got buried in twenty twenty two
is that you can actually if you look at the
electoral map in twenty twenty two, you can actually literally
(19:04):
see where the New York media market ends, because all
of the districts in the New York media market became
significantly more conservative. And this is this is and this
is not a joke. This is literally this whole tough
on crime shit is literally the thing like and in
this New York media market, this this is what caused
the Democrats the House because basically everywhere else in the
(19:24):
country there was okay, so like like red districts shifted red.
Every single district that was contested, like all of the
sort of like purple blah blahh like the districts they
all went, they all shifted to the left because of
abortion stuff. But then specifically a bunch of the like
what are supposed to be like very safe blue districts
went red because they were all because all of them
were doing this insane tough on crime stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
And those seats, like the seats they.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Lost in New York are the reason the Republicans have
control of the House. So like, you know, this isn't
working for them electorally, but they're still doing it because
it's their ideology and we're gonna get into a bit
more about why about that that part a second, But
before we do that, I want to talk about I
think another one of these things that has gotten kind
(20:09):
of lost in the shuffle, which is do you do
you do you You heard about the giant like DC crime
Omnibus bill.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
About this? Yeah? Yeah, Like I will say, I'm not
familiar with it other than like herring that it's bad. Yeah,
so okay.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So so in DC, the City Council passed this enormous
sort of like giant set of like omnibus set of
like policies are supposed to be there, like keep DC
safe crime omnibus thing.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
There's a couple of things to note about this. One
is that it's actually not as bad as it was
originally going to be because there was so much like uproar,
because I mean, the original one like had provisions that
was like banning masks at protests and ship and it
was like it was really bad and it got like nuked.
But it's still really bad, and there's a lot of
it's a lot of really weird kind of grievance stuff,
(21:01):
Like there's this provision specifically that's supposed to be about
like like targeting quote quote organized retail theft, which is
one of the insane.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
This is yeah, this is one of the most like
storm in a teacups that has been going for a
while now.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Yeah, But I mean there's also kind of like there's
just a standard police stuff, which is it They're they're
trying to expand pre trial attention on which they did.
One of the the absolutely insane ones that have been
declared unconstitutional, but apparently they're just back now is allowing
police chiefs to designate certain areas quote drug free zones.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Where yeah see, I'm I'm I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
But basically what it lets it basically, what it lets
you do is it lets the cops just harass a
bunch of people even more than they already do, like
mostly mostly what it does is just when you declare
one of these areas it's where all the black people are,
and then the cops just have cops in like an
incredible like incredibly increased ability to just randomly stop people
(22:04):
and search them.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Right and yeah, ship stop and frisk law. Yeah, there's there.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So there there is a thing that like part of
the Mask provision stayed in force, which is that they're
making it. Basically, it's like like wearing a mask with
the intent to commit a crime is a crime, right,
the cops like determine, right, your intent, So like, yeah,
(22:31):
it's one of those laws.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like they do this a lot with gun laws, right,
they passed gun laws. It don't make anything that wasn't
already illegal illegal. They just make it so that if
they if you, if you, if you're caught, you're going
to prison for longer.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Now, yeah, this this is actually there are there are
provisions like that in this too. There's also a bunch
of random like gun provisions. There's all the like more
nuts ones, like there's there's one where cops can arrest you.
So if if they're trying to cite you for not
paying a toll, if they they they claim that you
didn't pay a you didn't like pay a transit fare,
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you have to give them your full name and address
and if they don't, and if you don't, they can
arrest you.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Which is nuts. This is like don't disrespect me on
the train in front of everyone, nor, isn't it? That's
what that is. It gets There's another one. There's another
one which is like I I don't I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Have another way to describe it other than this is
the this is the how to get Away with Murder bill,
which is this is so one of the things that
they're doing is letting cops review their own helmet footage
before police inquiries.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Right, ah, this is.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
This is the get the narrative straight bill?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Do you also get to edit it? I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Well, okay, so here's here's the thing about that quote
unquote No, however come these things mysteriously vanish time serious?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
He disappears.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, there's also like a whole thing about like there
are certain groups of people who the cops can just
like force DNA collections from.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Oh wow, which is.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's a lot less broad than it used to be.
But yeah, it's still a provision in there.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
But yeah, this is a.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Nightmare's bill that they've been able to pass. And you know,
I think it's worth thinking about why this is actually happening,
which is that all of this stuff, all of these
are are sort of long range reaction to twenty twenty. Right,
this is this, This was the sort of strategy after
twenty twenty for rebuilding legitimacy of the police, and you know,
(24:37):
and and and also now rebuilding sort of rebuilding the
I don't know, psychological capacity, I guess to you know,
I mean, just deploy a bunch of troops on US soil,
right right.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, sort of building up that tolerant Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And you know, like this is all of this stuff
is sort of born on you know, on on on
protest crackdowns on one of the things that's also sort
of worth noting about. This is all of this stuff.
I mean, the DC crime build but in the works
for a long time. But the subway stuff is all
stuff that happened like pretty quickly after they air ambush
and all self in Malaysian. So a big part of
(25:17):
this has been the sort of the democratic ruling class
kind of losing their minds after watching how widespread twenty
twenty was, watching the extent to which they were forced
to like you know, like like there are democratic politicians
in twenty twenty like talking about like I mean, there
(25:37):
are like elected people talking about defunding the police. There
are like they're all remember the weird like like that
whole like kneeling thing in Congress they all do oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
The pitch of the morning Ken take with yeah, yeah,
ooh yeah. Powerful in sense of cringe.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, but there's a lot of like, you know, there's
there's just the sort of memory of that has been
has been sort of drilled deep into into the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And so what has been.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Happening like like you know, and that what's been happening,
and this has been happening in blue states very explicitly
is this is this strategy of hypermilitarization with the explicit
like not explicit, sorry, with the implicit but not very
well concealed goal of putting everyone back in their place
after twenty twenty. And that is extremely grim. I mean,
(26:30):
I think, I don't know, I'm glad the DC stuff
isn't as bad as it was original because the original
one we're just like straight up a bunch of fascist shit.
This is also fascist shit, but like not as unhinged
as the original bills were. So you know, it's like
like the tide of this stuff isn't inevitable, right, but
(26:53):
also very very powerful factions of the Democratic Party have
decided that this is the thing that they want to do,
and it absolutely sucks, and you know, and and and
and this is you know, and this is in a
similar way to sort of the stuff on the border
being bipartists. I mean, at some point I'm going to
do an episode about the absolute shit show that's been
happening in Chicago where yeah, they're like a a kid
(27:16):
got fucking measles in one of these and one of
the micro shelters and Pilsen in Chicago, and now the
mayor's like evicting a bunch of a bunch of people
from the bigrant shelters. Jesus, you know, so like there's
a bi I mean, this is the thing like in Chicago.
I mean there's just outside of like you know, we're
like outside of just like basically every like Walgreens or
(27:40):
just on street corners, there's a bunch of refugee families
like just sitting out there in the cold, trying to
get some money because there's fucking nothing for them here.
And this is a bipartisan you know, this is this
is a bipartisan political project.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Of you know, just sort of terror inflicted on most
at people in society.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, it's it's really depressing to hear that, just because
I know that, like, you know, I see people here
and then they get out and my friends see them,
and we turn into the airport and my friends feed
them and look after them there, and they get on
their planes and we hope for the best for them,
you know, and then then yeah, they just go to
some other city where some other dog shit democrats who
lied four years ago is gonna do everything they can
(28:26):
to make life as hard for them as possible.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
The good thing is you have to vote for them
while you're voting for fascismo oray. How sad?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah that that that That's what I got today. We'll
be back tomorrow with something.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
What are we back there? Yeah, it will be a podcast.
It's with tomorrow Friday. Oh yeah, tomorrow's Gaza day. So
it's not getting anty better for you. Yeah, lucky you,
lucky you. Tomorrow we'll be hearing from our friends at
park or Gaza.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
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