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Dani and Ify give you their favorite moments from 2018 in part 2 of this New Year Clip Show!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello and happy New Year to all of our nerd ma'am,
I'm Danny Fernan. Isn't sitting across from me is gay?
And I hope that you do. You do accomplish all
those resolutions you said before yourself, because you got it.
You got this year. It's a new year. It's a
new you say bye to your old boo. You know
what I'm saying. Wait, what was that you said? Say?

(00:31):
You didn't say you said say bye to your old boo. No, people,
I mean, hang on, if your old boot has been
down for the count all these years, it's like now,
it's like now knew me? You know that person that
stuck around with me and during my bad times I'm
getting ready. That doesn't make I'm out of here. I'm
out of here. I need to find someone else. I

(00:53):
want to find someone that only likes the new shiny me,
not the person that was down before I made it. UM,
Welcome to a difficent We are strolling down memory lane again.
This week was some of our favorite moments from the
podcast from this past year. Um Iffy, does anything jump
out at the top of your head like a favorite moments? No,

(01:14):
just your life, just just my life. No, Yes, favorite moments.
I was about to give you something in my life.
You know, there's been tons of favorite moments. I think,
like I said on Twitter, you know, Hector detailing the
good Doctor Who and hearing those like like hearing Riley's

(01:35):
great story about how Doctor Who inspires her and I
even you know, hanging with an old Cannon and Chris.
You know, that was a good time. And like a
lot of y'all, a lot of the nerd fan really
appreciated us touching on the lgbt Q plus community in
the nerd community, and you know that's that's why we
did it. We want you to feel seen. Yeah, you know,

(01:58):
I was really surprised that Lucy tom Lee Brenner, who
did our Halloween episode, was able to do Halloween. They're
just so many of them, and she did it so
well in a way that was entertaining that it wasn't
just like you know, reading off of Wikipedia or something
like she was she Yeah, I was surprised that she
was able to do that, and I enjoyed it. Yeah,

(02:19):
and I we got tons of more fun like that
coming in two thousand nineteen. But for right now, here
are some of our favorite clips. If you have something
I need to say, though we are I don't know
if you all know this a part of How Stuff
Works comedy. We are two comedians and we're not going
to just make this an educational, boring podcast. If you

(02:40):
want that, go somewhere else. The reason why Iffie and
I got picked up and got hired and we're sent
some money's from How Stuff Works to be on this
network is because our previous podcast where we had a
really good chemistry together, so we like sharing our experiences.
If you want someone to go over minute details of
a nerdy thing, this is not the podcast for you.

(03:00):
Yeah that it feels like some people just want the
boring part about nerds stuff. I think the fun and
and I know some people just took their headphones are like, yeah,
I think the fun in nerddom and the information from
nerdom is people's reactions, which is why we have tons
of guests who are passionate about the source material we're

(03:20):
talking about, even if we may not be as well
versed in it. That way, we have at least one
person in the seats jazzed up, and also we get
to turn around and let them tell us about their
experience and get to share that with y'all. This isn't
gonna be you know, I'm gonna like, we'll we'll give
you the rundown on the basics, but we're not. We're
not gonna like be like pop quiz, here's all this

(03:43):
stuff because an episode thirty six of because I feel
like if we did a podcast about that, people would
only use it for evil. No one would use it
for good. People would only use it to argue with us. Yeah.
I do want to say, though, are most listened to
episode still is our m c U episode with Hector
Navarro where Dan and I were talking about this earlier

(04:05):
where we did go on tangents. We talked about what
we loved about the films and what we didn't. It
wasn't just like here's a factual and then Thor showed
up and then this and that, Like we gave you
the main highlights of what you needed to know from
each film, but then we discussed and debated about them,
and I think that in also laughed a lot, and
I think that is what makes this podcast great. I
don't know, I think you guys should be ashamed of

(04:26):
yourselves for having emotional reactions to things that you love
absolutely should be ashamed of you. I really like our
comic Con episode where I talked about how I got
in by pretending to be with party Boy from Jackass,
and like those are the behind the things things that
you need to know about. And how if you you
got in trouble for like I don't know you were

(04:48):
like sextying with a girl in a O L messenger. Yeah,
like those are interesting fun facts to know a nerd culture. So,
speaking of which, we are Verine with Kyle here today,
who was an expert in Avatar the Last Airbender. You
actually have a tattooed on your body? I do. I
have the symbol of the air Nomads tattooed on my

(05:08):
body with the words let go because air is the
element of freedom. How many people confuse that for a
frozen tattoo? Most people confuse it for either six six
six uh or or they think it's a Celtic symbol.
Can I see I want to see you. It's so
great because I see how it could be frozen. Um. Yeah,
I also have my my French my fandom tattooed above

(05:31):
my wrist to it. Oh yeah, and I got the
biggest meaning I was trying to think of a non
curse word way to describe this character. One of his
battle cries Imperious Rex, and we all got it pretty
close proximity Imperious Rex. Because I wanted a nerd tattoo
that would be subtle, uh and cool. Also I like

(05:53):
it being a reference that not every nerd gets straight
up just speaking of gate keeping, but not even like
to the people feel bad about it, but like one
of those like if you know, you know, because I'm
a big Marvel guy, really love uh, just the whole
illuminati behind it, which yeah, sorry if you don't know
by now. Imperious Rex is name or the submartor's battle cry.

(06:16):
That's what he yells when he goes into battle, and
it's Latin for powerful King. It's a it's kind of
like if you've descended or us send it depending on
your point of view to like a level of nerd
dum you know, like you'll know and then it's like, okay, cool,
you're on my level. He but for all intensive purposes,
he's the worst. And people were looking at me when
I had this tattoo because everyone knows I'm a huge

(06:36):
Black Panther fan. But there was a whole arc where
him and Chia were at Osny're like, how do you
feel about this conflicted? Yeah? Absolutely, I I understand. I'm
an m A Frost fan from it. Also, I understand
conflicting feelings. You know, that's only about three writers got her, right,
So I understand your your your feelings. Well. Before we

(06:58):
totally dive into the timeline of of Avatar The Last Airbender,
what was your first introduction to it? How did you
for I mean, where did you watch it when it
first came out on Nickelodeon's I did not watch it
when it first came out of Nickelodeon because I was
in high school and I was I was too cool
to watch it. But then a friend of mine when
I got into college, I was like, you need to
watch the show. You absolutely need to watch it. And
it just ended. Uh, And so I got a hard

(07:19):
drive with the three seasons of The Last Airbender and
I just ran through it and it became I watched
it at such a perfect moment in my life because
so many of the lessons just kind of like I
don't know, emboldened me and made me a better person
in a lot of ways, and especially helped me like
come into my own as like a queer person, so
like I don't know, just a lot of ways. It
really helped me out. It was the best. Yeah. I

(07:40):
also didn't watch it in high school because I don't know,
so I was looking at the timeline. It first aired
February twenty one, two thousand and five, and that's when
it premiered, and I was in my junior year of
high school. Same thing, like the area that I lived,
and it wasn't really cool to watch quote unquote cartoons
and I was still kind of secretly watching Dragon ball Z,

(08:02):
but that was something that I started when I was ten,
so a little bit different. The dragon ball Z can
span a lot of age ranges, I feel like true,
but it was still weird for me to watch it
as a teenage girl where I was. And then I
was looking because Legend of Cora then came out in
twelve and I was like, oh, I was getting married then,
and then I was getting divorced, so like I actually

(08:23):
didn't really grow up. I didn't really watch this series
at all. Like I still haven't really picked it up.
And that's why I'm really we brought on Kyle to
kind of one because you're a huge expert and love it,
but also to kind of fill in the gaps for me.
You don't need to write me anybody. I know that
I need to watch it, along with a billion other
things that I haven't had time to watch. But I'm
just saying those times in my life were times when

(08:45):
I wasn't when I was married, I would have to
secretly like record anime that I wanted to watch. It
was so weird. My husband kind of made me feel
weird for being adult that watched cartoons. It's just a
reminder and again I'm saying, I know it's not cartoons,
but like that's what we'll call it, and just a
reminder to me that there's still so many areas like
that where we're really lucky to be in an area

(09:08):
and I think in like part of nerd culture where
it's cool or or acceptable, but like there's still so
many areas and probably people listening where like they can't
even openly talk about it with their coworkers because they're
seen as weird, like if you don't have children, especially too.
I think it's it's uh, if I could go back
in time and tell myself in high school, like, you know,
you need to watch this show because it is a

(09:29):
kid show. It is on Nickelodeon, But it was written
in such a way because originally it wasn't necessarily intended
to be a kid show. Um, but they randomly got
a few chances at Nickelodeon and they kind of turned
it into a kid show. But the themes and the stories,
so much of it is so dark, like they tell
such an adult story. And by the third season it's like,
oh no, like straight up, like you can blood bend people,

(09:50):
like it's it's messed up. Can can we curse on here? No?
But if you do, they messed up, messed up. It
is some messed up stuff. There we go. So what
is bending? So water benders um when they are during
a full moon changes a little bit in legend core,
but in the Last air Bender, water benders on a
full moon can bend the water in your body and

(10:11):
basically turn you into a puppet, which is horrifying and
it also looks extremely painful, and it's like once once
it gets to that level, it's like, oh yeah, you're
not playing around, Like that's that's really messed up. Theoretically,
they could pull the blood out of your body if
they wanted to. Man, Yeah, no, it it's so funny
because looking at this timeline was everything clicks back yea.
So it dropped February two thousand and five, which was

(10:35):
coming on my birthday and my junior, does you bring
this up like as many times as you can, you know,
deep in my weep face, you know, I'm watching Cowboy Bebop,
according which on Robin on the PHS got the Nauto
DVDs given to me at this point. So yeah, no,

(10:57):
I looked down on Avatar heavy, like the worst type
of And that's why it's so funny when people gate
keep because when you when you do that gate keeping stuff,
you are only hurting yourself because you do, especially when
you do like elitest things like that. Like Avatar is
a beautiful show. I I I've popped in and watched episodes,
uh kind of, I think like during season two and

(11:20):
three because it kind of still it gained traction at
my school and people kind of were talking about it
and so like I peeped in and then I graduated
and people were openly to so I kind of but
I never gave it the honest full watch. Um and
that's and it was all because of stuff like that.
I think another I've I've I've I was that type
of person It's a it's definitely a personality type where

(11:42):
if something is popping, you want to find a reason
not to like it. I did that with m F
Doom and that's one of mine. That's that. It was
with m F Doom that I told myself I would
never do it again because everyone loved m F Doom,
Like I think around same time junior senior year of
high school and I was so like, he's over rating
and for no reason, like I did not even know

(12:04):
it m F Doom song, but because everyone was so
into him, I had to be the guy who was
not into him. So then he first did a feature
on November has Come with the Gorillas, and that's when
I heard it and I your boy loved the rap.
But of course I've already set up this persona that
I hate himf do so so much of other people

(12:24):
are like this is a dumb thing that if he's
doing but okay, and like I was like yeah, no,
I was like, okay, I'll give it to you guys.
His verse on November has Come was great obviously at
this this point, that's the only I heard, and I'm like,
oh man. And then it wasn't until like I graduated
high school and I was like, let me just check

(12:45):
this out because I really never have. And I listened
to Food, which came out in two thousand six, and
it was made for people like me. It was literally
a rapper that was made for me. He was he
m F Doom. He was supposed to be Dr Doom.
He inter cut like old Fantastic four clips into his wraps,

(13:08):
like stuff that would blow my mind. I didn't know about,
didn't even listen to because of this random need to
be superior in my and I was gonna say nerddom,
but they had nothing to just to be cool because
I have to go against the grave, so for me,
like on its most simple form, Doctor Who is a

(13:30):
serialized sci fi series about a time traveling alien who
travels space and time in a spaceship that looks like
antime machine and spaceship that looks like a police box
for nineteen sixties and that's and basically travels around usually
with a companion, once in a while alone but very
rarely because it shouldn't travel alone. Finding people like kind

(13:52):
of stumbling upon people who are in trouble and helping them.
And that's basically the premise of the show. So it's
not unlike how like the premise of Star Trek is like, Hey,
we have a thing that's happening in this area space,
let's go check it out and see what's going on.
That's basically what Doctor Who is like. They're often like
the it's kind of quirky and at the hardest, which
is the ship that they that they fly around in,
which stands for time and relative dimension in space, Like

(14:15):
they'll be like, Oh, we're gonna go to this cool
vacation planet, and then they show up instead of planet
instead and like there's like trouble of Bruin and they'll
kind of figure out what's going on and then stop it.
Are they often here on Earth? Other? Yes? Okay, both
yes equally? Would you say, I'll make it goes from
season to season. It can be. Some seasons are real
the Earth heavy. We've actually had a pretty Earth heavy

(14:36):
several years, But other seasons they almost never come to Earth.
So this most recent scene they always look human. For
the most part. There are aliens that are alien aliens
but for the most part, doctors always doctor looks well,
humans look time from the show, Yeah, there's a lot
of humanoid races on this ship. Oh so there's an

(14:58):
episodes actually actually from the show. Someone says, well, you
look human. He goes, no, you look time lord. So
there are what we perceived to be human. Time Lords
basically look like humans, but they have two hearts and
that's like the difference. That's the big difference between them.
And they also can regenerate and have like longer, and
they also can they've also I'm really glad that So

(15:19):
I'm just gonna ask some questions. Sure um, and I'm
gonna let you continue. So do they choose what they
look like when they regenerate? Some can not, all can, um,
some people have randoms. Sometime lords have random regenerations. Others
can choose it. It's not super dug into the plot.
That's kind of one of those things where it's just
like in one episode the writers thought it was funny
they have this woman changed her appearance a bunch, So

(15:41):
I guess sometime lords can. The show is so fast
and loose with cannon that it's like really fun to watch.
Fans then like scramble to try to like this this
is what this means, because basically what happened is there
was one episode in the seventies where a character or
named Romana who was the Doctor's companion, but she was
also a time lord time lady. They replaced the actress

(16:01):
in the second season that they had her, so they
had her regenerate into the other actress and so they
just had like a jokey scene the first episode with
her where Romana kept walking in with different forms until
she like solidified the one she was going to take
and then travel with the doctor and it was La
La Ward who was amazing. So that's like, so then
like when you if you play the Doctor Who role

(16:21):
playing game and you play, like if you're playing as
a timelord, you can choose like customized regeneration as one
of your options. Whereas you played the Doctor, you have
like you can't choose your regeneration, Like the doctor can't
like consciously choose his or her regeneration happens at random
random generation. So there's two questions. Yes, so I remember
there was a limit on how many regenerations that the

(16:44):
doctor has, Uh, have we reached that it's been reset
because the thing is the thing with that something like that,
and that's that is a thing that was written into
the show back in the like seventies and when they
first started like fleshing out time Lord culture. Because when
the show first started in sixty three with William Hartnell

(17:05):
the first Doctor, the phrases that I'm using time Lord regeneration,
two hearts gallop, right, none of that was part of
the show yet. That was all the doctor was just
a weird alien and he and his granddaughter were traveling
the universe in this police box that like Tartist has
now become like on the show the term people used
for these ships. But in that episode, like the granddaughter

(17:28):
just called her ship the Tartist because of the initials.
That wasn't like the official title for it, but it's
just been reckoned over time, Like yeah, they're all called Tartists.
So the original one was like thirteen regenerations, and then
what happened was at the end when Matt Smith became
Peter Capaldi, there was they they had squeezed in an
extra regeneration when they did the fifty the anniversary special.

(17:51):
So there's a regeneration between Paul McGann, who was the
Doctor who the actor who played the Doctor in the
nineties TV movie who was the eighth Doctor, and christ
for Eccleston who was the ninth Doctor, they squeezed in
John Hurt as what we call the War Doctor. And
the reason for that is because Eccleston didn't come back
virtually special, so they replaced so since he wouldn't come

(18:12):
back for it, they wrote in this new version of
the Doctor to kind of fulfill his role. So the
idea is like, basically when the show came back into
thousand five, when it kind of like had this soft
reboot where it still had the old continuity, but it
was kind of a new format show. Now it went
from being a serialized twenty two minute episode show to
being an hour each week, and each hour was like
a pretty self contained story. They introduced this concept of

(18:36):
there had been this awful genocidal war in between when
the show ended and when it came back that they
called the Time War, and at the end of that
time War the Doctor. It was between the Doctor's race,
the Time Lords, and their greatest enemy, the Daleks, and
the end of the Time War was at that point
was written to me that the Doctor did something that

(18:59):
was called the moment. He unleased weapon called the Moment
that destroyed both races and he was the only survivor
of the war. And that's why Echolson's Doctor is so
torn and tormented because he has this guilt of being
the destructor of his own race on another race as well,
which is very against what normally the creed of the
Doctor is, which is very antigenicidal. And like there's an

(19:21):
episode in Classic Who called Genesis of the Daleks where
the Time Lord send the Doctor, which is Tom Baker's
doctor back in time to the Daleks home world to
try to prevent them from ever being created in the
first place, and he ends up not doing it because
he doesn't feel like he morally has the right to
to deny and that our species the chance to exist.

(19:42):
And it's a really interesting, fascinating episode. And so that
was kind of the the crux of the new shows
that Doctor had like broken his own promise, and that's
why they brought in John Hurt, like he was like
he hadn't even referred himself as the Doctor. He's the
one who failed to be the Doctor. And then that's
why he's the other ones are all feeling guilty then on,
So that was one regeneration that was squeezed in. And

(20:03):
also you may remember during David Tennant's run this Net
Present episode where he starts to regenerate and then like
sends the energy out of him into a hand and
turns into a new doctor. So that was like counted
as regeneration as well. And so basically what happened was
when Matt Smith was at the end of his run,
he said, like, I've used my regenerations. I'm dying. When
I die, I'm dead, and then through plot things that

(20:26):
I won't spoil for people haven't already heard it, they
like re set his regenerations. And so Peter Capaldi was
the first doctor of this news cycle and they've kind
of now gone like, we don't know how many he
has because they don't I think. I think when they
made thirteen as the number that was back when the show,
I had no idea they would last and come back

(20:47):
after a break. So it was easy to toss out
like a number. It seems super fluck when you're on,
like when you're all on the fourth Doctor, it's easy
to go, Yeah, thirteen regenerations, We'll see whatever. Now that
we're on Doctor. It's like they don't want to say
a set market. We might hit twenty six at some
point because we're kind of going through these people every
three years or so. That's true. Yeah, I wanted to
go through some of these facts about when it first premiered.

(21:09):
It was all over them out there, So no, no no,
no nos, I want to stop you because I want
you to go through those facts after these messages and
we are back. I wanted to touch on the c
w C. They're superhero shows, well several of their shows,

(21:30):
but definitely their superhero shows seem to be really taking
initiative as far as including more queer characters. I know,
there's Thunder and Black Lightning, there's Curtis Holt on Arrow,
there's the Flashes, Captain Sing, there's Alex Danvers and Supergirl
Sarah Lance and Legends of Tomorrow gave a sharp and
Ledgends of Tomorrow. Now we have Ruby Rose as Batwoman.
I don't know if you saw that that was announced. Yeah,

(21:51):
that's very exciting. I think the main character too. You
know bat Woman, he's one of the most fascinating characters.
And you know, if it was a few years ago
and you told me that they would announce Ruby Rose
as Batwoman and she would be getting tons of hate.
I'd be like, oh, is it because it's a lesbian character? No,

(22:11):
because nerds are bad? And and if if they think
you don't because you know, all nerds are the perfect
casting director. All these great fan casting picks that we see.
By the way, that's what's so funny. It's every time
fans cast something, it's always trash, or the budget would
be insane, or that person would not dedicate, like it's

(22:33):
like get out of here, like they were upset with
Was it Heath Ledger when he was originally Yes, that's
so true. Fantastic um. Yeah, and there's also isn't Voltron
have characters? They just confirmed it at Comic Conto. Oh
and uh, thinking of even video games because I forgot
this reference. Tracer from Overwatch the one of the main

(22:55):
faces of over watching lesbians. So yeah, I would be
remiss if I mentioned Stephen Universe, which is brilliant, beautiful,
such a positive bright. I mean even they though if
even their fans are bad bad you want to like
hit I want to like roll up a newspaper slash
like spray them. But I also think it's the issue.

(23:17):
I mean, Cannon sometimes deals with this working at PlayStation.
There is sometimes a huge amount It seems like it's
a large number of people on Twitter, but it's because
it makes people's voices sound bigger than it actually is.
And a lot of times the Internet will freak out
about something. It doesn't necessarily reflect the majority. It doesn't

(23:38):
reflect sales, it doesn't reflect the majority of a fan base.
It doesn't really reflect anything except for Internet. You know,
Twitter height, which sometimes means absolutely nothing. It's it's bizarre. Yeah, no,
that's that's true. I know that you're good friends with
Kelly Marie Tran and she experienced like so much hate
that she got off social media. But the thing is

(24:00):
that when I was at Comic Con there were so
many people dressed like Rose Tico that it was just
I mean, what it like. People just love her so much,
But it's hard when like all you've seen as a
small minority of Star Wars obsessive harassment. Yeah, and the
majority of Star Wars fans are super lovely, nice people.

(24:22):
I think a lot of it has to do with
two with people will have multiple accounts that the log
into it makes if you. You you can have represents
so many different people on Twitter that it it allows
to for a falsehood of what actually is. But it's
also I mean, it's why you know, Kelly's not on
you know, Instagram. It's because sometimes you don't need to
read everything all of the negativity. Yeah, and also it's

(24:45):
one thing that's important to know. It may seem like
when you're getting all the notifications and all the people
in your mentions, you know, it may seem like, damn,
this is a huge amount of people who think this,
but only seven percent of them Americans are using Twitter.
That's seven percent of Americans are using Twitter. A fake account.

(25:07):
That's a lot of fake accounts, and that's a lot
of like that's not a lot of people. So so
that and and you know what it is. I find
that to be true because whenever something big happens on
Twitter and you do kind of step out to the
real world and you're like, have you heard of this?
And someone hasn't, You're like how, But like when you
see a number like that seven percent, you're like, I guess,

(25:29):
I guess not, you know, I guess I guess it
isn't as as big a big a world as we
think it is. It just feels that way. It is
people from other countries and smaller areas as well. I
was also going to say, talking on the thing of
online harassment, I mean it's something that Cannon has had
to deal with working with PlayStation and everything. I don't know,

(25:50):
if you can talk at all, you get like death
threats from LinkedIn. They used to be really common, so
when the PlayStation never was a little bit less reliable
than it is now. Any time we have an outage,
it's totally common for people that have PlayStation and they're
linked to profile to get death threats in your inbox. Wow,
it's fairly common, and it's it's it's not it's endemic

(26:12):
to the whole gaming industry. Like I have female friends
that work at studios, and a lot of them won't
even put what the name of the studio they're working
at because the game will get released and then someone
will be like, well, this level, this thing was misdesigned.
So I'll go and find a female graphic artists and
just start sending her death threats and hate mail, and
then everyone just bandwagons. And I remember that was a
huge thing that happened with I believe mass effect where

(26:35):
they were blaming this one woman for ruining the game
and someone had to come in and be like, well,
she didn't even have that huge a part of it.
There's actually these men, but you guys are targeting her
and it is interesting, and you know, does PlayStation do
anything to protect y'all? Like can you report these people
and you know, get their accounts yanked or anything. I mean,

(26:56):
it depends on the social media using. I mean, Lincoln
has a pretty robust reporting system for offensive material, so
it's not so bad. But eventually saying that LinkedIn is
like the not the thing that you should be doing.
Like LinkedIn, you can see where they work and who
that person is that doesn't like Twitter, I understand because
you're like a random anime avatar, but like linked In,
the fact that someone is oh man, I mean. But

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the craziest thing is you would think that Twitter would
have a more robust reporting system than LinkedIn, because LinkedIn
at least you're a level of professionals where Twitter should
be doing everything it can. But we're learning more and
more every day, and I'm gonna just leave it at that,
and you know, just leave it at that. Yeah, I
think um one thing. And this probably may sound crass,

(27:40):
but you just sort of learned to rise above it
and ignore it because it used to really bother me.
And then I just started saying, you know, none of
this matters, Like they're not going to do anything. These
people are hiding behind a keyboard. And all the people
that I went into, like, I have a When we
launched the PS four, everyone got jackets that said PS
four Launch Team, and I would just sometimes wear that
I'm not thinking and I would have people come up

(28:01):
in grocery stores and in malls and just randomly and
they'd be like, oh my god, you worked on the
PS four. Can I shake your hand? And they just
like the fans are like the best part, right, And
it's I think it's important to remember the good experiences
more than the bad ones, because if we let the
bad ones kind of occupy our mind space, then everything's
gonna just it's so difficult. I feel like for me,

(28:21):
I look at it as a glass of water with
the amount of sexual harassment that I deal with, and
I send it Chris, I feel like you have been
such a positive I just want to take this moment.
You're just you and Iffy have seen so much of
the the harassment that I've dealt with trying to be
in this space, and I just both are very supportive
men in my life. But I wanted to say I

(28:42):
look at it as like a glass of water, and
it fills up, fills up, fills up, fills up, and
then eventually I can't take it anymore and overflows, and
then I kind of spiral from the harassment and I
might take a break, I might step back, and and
it sucks. I agree, because I want to read all
my comments. I want to answer the messages, but that
means I have to see all the really bad ones,
and it's very hard mentally to handle that. I think

(29:04):
the scary thing is how Twitter is like the new
KKK hood. I mean, I do mean that though, because
I mean people. It's so crazy how people who are hateful,
spiteful individuals they do it in a way where they
can still go to their day jobs. Like you must
morally know deep down inside that you're doing something wrong

(29:24):
and hateful if you're acting that way, but I think
you're It's a lot of people who are on the Internet,
and I think the biggest way that I've used to
combat hatred is with our group meeting nerds who are positive,
whether it's queer, people of color or just people who
are loving, you know, people who are doing something for
the better good. Whatever your group is, it's finding people

(29:46):
in person to talk to, because I think the best
way to combat the internet hate is making a present
outside in person is the best way to combat that.
I was just gonna don't want to get too political,
but you know, a big part of the Trump election
for me was processing how kind of awful it made
me feel and how terrible I thought everything was. And

(30:08):
what I eventually decided after kind of coming out of
that fog, was that, you know, I can't change anyone's mind,
I can't fight the hate directly. But what I can
do is I can spend my time, my energy, and
my money on helping the people in my community and
then building that up. And that's kind of what made
me get into activism. It's why I volunteer at the center.
That's why the Ely Gaming Society is starting to have
fundraisers for the queer youth of Los Angeles so that

(30:31):
we can get people, you know, onto a better track
so that they're not homeless or not alone, or they
don't feel so depressed all the time by all this negativity.
And I can say that by putting my focus towards
those kinds of things, my outlook has approved exponentially, even
though the news un a fairly consistent negative is crazy.
Like having a positive outlet where I can take kind

(30:53):
of that nervous negative energy and work it into something
has made a world difference for me. Well, I mean
you saw like you see negative homophobic like Kitako would
have like a negative you know, this homophobic thing happened today.
They didn't write about like our E three party, how
we raise so much money for the we I think
we raised I don't even know how many, like five

(31:14):
over five thousand dollars just for video games for LGBT,
you know, youth to play at the center, um, so
that they can have an outlet, which is amazingly enough,
by the way, video games is such a healthy outlet
that brings people together. And and then seeing people being
brought together who are queer nerds who are thirty to
forty years old, you know, who never had that outlet

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and in an adult space, I think they're positive things
that are happening by us focusing on our community. I'm
hoping that maybe the news can eventually pick up on
some of those positive articles. To quote a great movie
by the name of Nightcrawler. If it leads, it leads,
you know, and that's the that's what the news is.

(31:57):
In the business of the moment, the news became the
business this it's less about you know, sharing the news
and more so what can we do that's going to
you know, activate people and get a reaction out of
them and get them sharing our stuff. So, yeah, it does.
I find that in multiple communities and multiple things throughout

(32:17):
the news scope, everything positive kind of gets swept under
the rug because they'd rather get someone mad who's going
to retweet it and then say something snark and then
someone's gonna add their snark. Me usually I'm involved in that.
But yeah, so it is. And I think that is
a great advice to anyone in their communities is if

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you are feeling hopeless, are feeling like, how do I
make a change? Everyone thinks that, you know, I find
that a lot of people believe that you need a
million dollars to make meaningful change, and that's just not
the case. You know, meaningful change could just be as
simple as mentoring you know someone who is you know
just like you, or someone who you think needs it

(33:02):
if he did. You want to go over some of
your favorite games? Yeah, I'm we're just going to do
a quick dash all through the games because there are
so many, and I just want to talk about the
like huge influential ones, uh, instead of just going through
all of them that have spanned from to this very year.

(33:23):
Uh So you had, you know, Sonics one and two
two was the game. I feel like it was the
staple game, the spin Dash, the one everyone played, and
then three took it up a notch by introducing Knuckles,
because really, that's a third character in this franchise that
you now get to play. You're able to play as
uh Tales or Miles if you want to be Danny
when you with the second player, and they would be

(33:44):
able to run besides you. So that was like the
two player aspect. I think the next big game in
the series actually came after Sonic and Knuckles. I didn't
realize these were back to back. I always felt there
was so much time between them, and there was a
Sonic and uh Sonic. The Hedgehog three dropped four years
later we get Sonic Adventure, and Sonic Adventure came out

(34:06):
for the Dreamcast, and it was a moment because because
the Dreamcast was was hot at the time. It was
the reason people. Yeah, that was the reason people bought Dreamcast.
And then it introduced that like Dreamcast used to have
this uh I forget the name of it, but it
was like a yeah that you would put in and
you would put the what is it, the chow's the

(34:28):
chows from the game, and you'd be able to take
care of it outside of it. So basically all this
like all the kids going crazy over the Pokemon, the
poke ball, plus that you get to it was like
we've been on that since since the Yeah, yeah, we're
sounding like old crotching. So there were great games after

(34:50):
that because you had um Sonico six. Yeah that was
that was when your emails Yeah, oh man, well were
I'm not no, no, you're right, because you're mentioning the
whole thing. Because the Sonic fans, which I used the
term loosely because this isn't very fan is a fan

(35:11):
centric way to act, oftentimes will say that Sonic Adventure
or Sonic Adventure two was the last good game or whatever,
Sonic they like was the last. But one thing everyone
kind of did agree with was Sonic which one was it? Yes,
Sonic Rush for the d S, which was not on
this list, which makes me smarter than the internet. Uh,

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Sonic Rush was super fun and in it you you
played as Sonic and also your your counterpart was what
was her name, Blaze the Cat And it was a
very fast paced, fun game it was, and everyone agreed,
because you know, I hate when I really like a
game and everyone's like, no, you shouldn't like it. It's that.

(35:57):
Luckily that didn't happen with this game. Everyone liked it. It
It had a fun story, it looked great. It was
such a blast Sonic Rush. But then those knuckles in that,
I mean, how could you enjoy that? If your favorite
I like you, I guess, I guess you're kind of cool.
Super cool that you got that you got to play
Sonic and Super Smash Brothers. Yeah, so cool again, like

(36:23):
getting to be a part of something like this, Like
those things just sort of like kind of fall into
your lap, you know what I mean. It's like it's
one of the things that kind of and it's like
a crossover. Absolutely same thing with the same thing with
with you know, Record und Ralph. Yeah a sudden it
was like somebody called them and they're like, yeah, Disney
wants you for something. I was like, for what this
thing Record Ralph? And I'm like, okay, what what a

(36:44):
what am I doing? They're like, you're doing Sonic. I'm like, no,
something's wrong. I was like no, I don't think you know.
And then showed up and they're like yeah, we we
we we wanted sound like the Hedgehog and they're like
you got to use our guy. And it was like
all really so because that was gonna be my question
on the the side. Was it a them hitting you
up and you needing permission? But so they wanted Sonic

(37:05):
and Saga was like Roger, I would imagine it was
a licensing thing. I mean, I think that's how that works. Um,
you know. I mean obviously I'm a brilliant voice actor
and they were lucky to have me regardless, and it's
just pure luck that the licensing. No. I actually think
that that, um with most of those characters. I think
that they mandate that, if you know, because when you
think about something like, you know, Disney doing a Record

(37:28):
Ralph with all those different video game characters. I think
if they're gonna say, we're gonna use your guys or gals,
we want to have, you know, the characters, be honest,
because they had Kylie barras we you That's what I
was gonna go to. Now is it seems like you're
in secause you're Insanega's Wheelhouse. Now they're like, you're you're
Sonic your son I mean, until I'm not. Once they

(37:50):
see you take a self with with Mario, Yeah, there
you go. It's like, oh, he's doing a Twitch channel
and he's he's as the character. We don't allow that. Yeah,
oh my gosh. But yeah, that was pretty much the games.
And then you know, the first Sonic series that we
referenced with Julio White was the height of like nineties
games fever, when we had your Super Mario movies, when

(38:13):
you had the Super Mario TV show, They're like this,
you need a TV show because games are popping right now.
But then after that you got I think there was
the Sonic anime series before. Yeah, Sonic X. Yes, I
remember Sonic X because Sonic X was one of those
shows that were I was a little too old for
it at that time. It came out two thousand four,

(38:34):
two thousand five, which means I was a junior, uh
in high school, and I was like, you know how
old but they had video games back. Oh yeah, I
was in it though. I was like, look, I don't
care what people say. I love Sonic, a Sonic anime.
Let's go. But then then we got the Sonic series

(38:59):
that that everyone's talking about. Did I skip? Was it
Sonic Extan Sonic Boom? I'm not crazy? No, yeah, I know.
I was under my fourth wife. I think at the
time that Sonic Extra is coming out, so you know, yeah, yeah,
using that. Oh that's funny too. I'm trying to look
up Sonic Boom while we talk about it, and of
course I got videos of Fighter Chain, funny Sonoma, Sonic

(39:26):
Boom cartoon that might be a little better, but we're
so we're going to get into Sonic Boom right after
these messages. All right, welcome back, Still sitting here with

(39:47):
Aaron Powell and my man Ed Greer holding it down.
This has been a fun one we've been It's been
like an open conversation dropping facts instead of going you know,
in the normal order. But that's what happen is when
you know, when we're tapping in, it feels like instead
of an episode where we're falling along with an expert,
we have three passionate experts. So you know, sorry, this

(40:12):
one's a little harder for you to fall along. I
implore you to tweet us. We will keep the conversation
going on. But I feel like we're doing a good
job of like weaving in the top and bottom. But
you know, one thing we didn't touch on, and I
did say we're going to talk about playing with emotions
is how people reacted to Miles and and once again,
this was another thing that we were all so luckily

(40:33):
able to experience live and direct. And it was funny
when you know, while like Stanley gave it the okay
thumbs up and people like us really loved it, you
had those fans out there that do what they do
anytime any diversity initiative launches a diverse character, switches up
or red cons and add something. You had people complaining

(40:55):
that you know, this is just a move for for
political correctness and and you know you're just trying to
check on PC. And you know there's many takes that
people have, many responses and minds is always yep, so okay, yeah,
it's a thing we want to be represented. So it's
like yelling at a dude in the tesla, like you're

(41:16):
just trying to save the environment. Yeah. The one, the
one thing that I always brought at and on that
regard is when they go, Okay, you're just doing this
for diversity, You're just doing this for whatever reason. Everything
is just for some reason. Everything is just for some agenda.
And up until very recently, the agenda has been I
don't want to call it white supremacy, but let's call

(41:37):
it white a Okay, you know what I mean. It's like, okay,
I like to call it that. The one rule that
most waves of business go back. It's called I'm white,
and I say so, that's usually that's usually the reason
for a lot of things. And then when we we
get something like it's a comic book character, it's a
fictional character, and he had your own separate but equal you,

(41:59):
and first for a long time, exactly, they eased you
into it. He didn't show up with your mom, your
new daddy. Well, here's the funny thing about it, and
here's my like less cynical way of doing it because
I try, and you know, as I get deeper in
the nerds space and as we become more talking points,

(42:20):
I try and like take a little bit of snap
energy because you know, rest in peace. John Schnapp, he
always like one thing I want to take from him
is just his ability to kind of like try and
like ease you into it and not be the DMX
of nerdom, which I am usually want to do. And
the way I look at it, is it, honestly, if
we're not being just straight up cynical and we're just

(42:42):
being facts for facts. Before a certain time media was
made for white people. You you knew you were creating
it for a majority white person. You know that the
only people who needed to relate to it is white people.
But what we all know now, especially as all of
us are creators, We are writers, we are actors, We

(43:05):
we work in this industry industry, So this isn't speculative,
This isn't speculation, this is just facts. When you are
creating art, you're trying to touch your audience. You're trying
to touch your viewers, and you're gonna do everything you
can to make them feel included. You're gonna do everything
you can to look on that screen and have them go, oh,
that can be me. And you know, for so long

(43:30):
a lot of people of color had to look at
these white people on screen and and find themselves in them.
And in the end we made it work. And now
we're getting to a place where you're getting a lot
of creatives who are like, let's switch it up. Let's
you know, create this character who you know black kids
can look up to and go like, that's me. But
it's the all quote about how equality seems like oppression.

(43:53):
You haven't, you know, get it out. And I think
that that when they see they don't realize what it
was like for me as little kid to be like
looking up to Thor Thor don't look like nobody that's
been in my family history for a hundred and fifty years.
And I got to see myself and this North do
with a belt made of cow hide and all this jazz.
But you can't see yourself in a Brooklyn teenager when
you probably was a teen in Brooklyn. Have these people

(44:15):
who are balking at Miles lived Miles his life and
saying they can't see it themselves in them because of
his skin. And I think that's that's that's a weird situation.
But like you said, snap energy, I feel as though
it's also the fact that it's belying that jazz about
there is no audience for this when I've gone into
several comic book stores and seeing people unbidden Like sometimes
I've walked into several combook stores and had a diversity

(44:36):
in comics. Uh conversation pop up as I walked in
the store. I don't know what that's about. And all
of a sudden, it's time to talk about diversity in
commix and how whack it is. And I'm just people.
One of the main talking points they say is black
people and women and lesbians or whatever you want to
connect with the Latinos. They don't really read comics. That's so,

(44:58):
and I would just love for that. That is also
part of it. It is a business. There is a
business reason beyond a lot of this diversity, and it
is to sell to people who are playing comics that
do not happen to look like regular Peter Parker. Yeah,
and lots of times it's just dated information and that
you just kept using, like the example that a black
lead you know, movie can't do well overseas, and then

(45:18):
which is totally so surprised that black panthers this smash
hit that is doing well. Look at Fast and Furious,
which is a black lead movie, Like, get whatever you
think out of your mind. Almost all of those actors
in that movie, if they're not Latin X people, they're black.
The Rock is black. I'm sorry people, it's sorry people forget,
but look his daddy. His name is Dawaye Johnson. D

(45:42):
Wayne Johnson, Okay, his name is Dawayne Johnson. He is like,
no matter how much they've tried to poke up his
I don't think he's ever played a black person explicitly
on film, but the Rock is a black dude. He
was in a faction called the Nation of Domination based
on the Nation. Well he's doing the news. Uh, he's
doing the new Schwitzenegger where it's like this fool's name

(46:05):
is John Matrix and he got the thick German excit
but he got all the clearances with the Delta Force.
Oh well, well they do that with Dwayne right now.
John Claude, Van Damage Street Fighter. Yeah, and I called
him Russian, not the muscles from Brussels. So when when

(46:25):
my some of the some of the reactions to him. Yes,
there were some people who definitely balked at him, and
there were also the people. Let's kind of talk about
some of the people who are just like, well, why
can't he just have his own thing? Oh, let's yeah,
you know what I mean, Because there are some people
like that. Yeah, they're the yeah and they and they
really try to try and make that strong argument of like, yeah,
if he had his own thing, that'd be better than

(46:47):
just rebranding X Y Z. And really it's coming from
the same place. I think. You know, I think there
is a corner of people who like it is driven
by racism, but I think there's another corner of people
who just don't like change. I think it even if
it was like you know, Rammy Schwartz and it was
like just this new Jewish kid who was Spider Man,

(47:07):
people would be just as mad. And it was just
because they're like, you're changing the thing that I like,
and for some reason, I'm forgetting that I always have
every future iteration of the thing. And what's the funny is,
like people being mad about Miles Morales, they were actually
doing that thing that people try and say where it's
like we are creating this own thing. But now it's
a problem. It's a problem because like they weren't saying,

(47:28):
could they create their own thing? With the eight kid flashes,
we've had no one said, No one's saying that, you know,
but but we get a black kid flash. Now it's
a problem. Why can't he have his own thing? Okay, yeah,
black dude running fast, kind of racist, but you know
his name is Wally, which is an old black man.
Well are you having with the first one? That second

(47:48):
one feel like a reach. Can't think Wallace Wallace Willis West. Anyway.
The thing I was thinking about also is given these
legacy characters personally, I think I am one of the
few fans that I love the fact that he's Spider Man.
I love the fact that he had Spider powers, but

(48:09):
he's more than Spider Man as well. It's almost like
he's in a situation where Cassandra Caine Batgirl was in
for a long time. Cassandra Caine as back Girl was
for my generation, the best bad girl and she she
could do so many things that Barbara Gordon could not
do as a as a because she was different and
she did speak, yeah, full stop. She was different. She

(48:30):
had a bunch of different stuff, and Myles has so
many different things. I would love to see him become
a character kind of like the Scarlet Spider or the
night Wing situation or something like that. If they did
that organically, I would not think that was capitulating to
racism or whatever. I would just think that was like,
because if he's not gonna be the Spider Man of
a universe, this whole two Spider Man jazz does weird
be out? It kind of does. What are you trying

(48:51):
to do? Is like it be like if there was
a Daredevil that fought and this three three acre section
of Kill's kitchen, and then a Dare Devil that was
chilling in Manhattan and had better suits and better clothes
and stuff. That's kind of how they did it for
a minute. And now Spider Man's a poor bum again.
They made him lose his company to ground him a
little bit. It's almost like people forget that what they
love about Spider Man is their own youth, yea, their

(49:13):
own youth. They were sitting on a bed at fourteen,
and that was reading about this white Spider Man going
through his troubles, eating his wheatcakes, and that was their dude.
That they know what I'm saying. And uh, well, of course,
since you brought up we're gonna stop and talk about
Quang's toy collection, because you know, everyone has a collection
in mind when you think of someone's toy collection. But

(49:34):
let me tell you my experience of witnessing the glory
that is Kwang's toy collection. I was that who was it? Was?
It a birthday? Christmas party? Knows the Christmas party with
yesterday's Christy all have the best Christmas party. And I
am waiting for my invite for this year's. Uh man,
it's and that secret saying I got sniped. I don't

(49:57):
think I'm not still mad about that. It was the
it was so good. It was a Mickey Mouse, uh
toaster where it scores Mickey Mouse. Yeah, And I was like, oh,
this is dope. It's gonna be for Naomi. She's good
and someone. And so just so people understand what we're
we're doing secret Santa in the sense where everyone brings

(50:18):
a gift. It's in the pilephant, white elephant. But yeah,
it gets pretty pretty vicious. Yeah, so everyone can swap
two times, so you and if you and everyone can
only get stolen from two times, so if after you
get stolen from the second time, you're safe. So stolen
from once, it was like the last round two and
I was like, I think I'm good. I had this

(50:38):
Mickey Mouse toaster and then nope, I someone stole and
gave me this creepy doll that's a light and you
know it's a cool doll but also very creepy. It
comes with a ghost too. Yeah. Actually know someone stole
the ghost for me because that was because I think
that was my first thing and I was like, oh no,

(50:59):
don't want someone like, oh no, this is my bag light.
But so we go um and uh. I think it
was Quang who was like, you want to see my
toy collection there. We were like yeah, yeah, yeah, I
mean yeah, but I was I was game. After the
ghost doll, I'm like, let's go. Uh. And we go

(51:19):
to like your basement and you turn on a light
and it was the most toys I've seen in one place.
And this is someone who's been to melt down rest
in peace. Uh, and like it was just so many
and I was like, oh, this is what I need
in life. I wish I can have this many dope toys,
you know, I was really lucky that my mom just

(51:41):
really didn't throw anything away. Um And and in all honesty,
I've gone through like a lot of different times of collecting.
I've I've been collecting like designer Vinyl toys for a
very long time. And I actually weirdly went through a
phase of where I got so over it when you know,
um eBay sort of took hold of of it and

(52:04):
like the prices just went out of control, uh you know.
And and so I actually stepped away from the hobby
for a long time. And then I took a trip
to Japan. And then there's a store kit called Him
and Rock out there, which is you know there there's
like it's a chain, there's a few. Yeah, there's a chain. Yeah,
there's a chain of them. There's a you know. But

(52:25):
the one that I was first introduced to is basically
like an eight story mall where each floor is like
a different like era of toy um and and the
shelves are just packed and you can only fit like
one person through at a time through the aisles, and
the prices at the time, um, we're very um good.

(52:48):
And I basically it was just like I'm back in Yeah,
you like this. Yeah, I'm thinking I'm back Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And well you know, I I never asked this because
you just kind of started doing it. But I mean,
you're an artist, so you've always been around the toy culture.
But when was the moment You're like, I'm jumping in this. Uh,

(53:09):
I'm gonna make a toy ro com needs a toy out.
It's it's honestly, um, being friends with Quong and uh
you know we we've we've skipped this, but Kwang and I, um,
we started this thing with our friend DJ. Yeah that
when an animal pin company called Yesterdays, and so you
started four years ago and slowly we became the official

(53:29):
pinmakers for the band The Misfits, for the Walking Dead, comics,
for Saga, a bunch of a bunch of comic books,
and so it takes us to all these comic conventions. Um.
But aside from us hanging out all the time for
through through that company, UM, Kuang and our friend Justin
Justin Ishmael. Um. He he makes really great license toys. Um.

(53:51):
He's worked with Famous Monsters Magazine. He's working on a
Billy Bob toy right now, which is from Showbiz Pizza
and um and also the Deadly Spawn. Yeah and so
and so they're always painting and working on toys and
I'm sitting here, dude, that's supposed to be the artist,
and I don't have my toy, and some them like
where's my toy? And so, uh, Jet Jaguar had been

(54:15):
a huge thing in my collection, so I wanted to
kind of create that thing where, um, here's here's my
addition to that, you know, because um, I think even
if you look at fun Maker Mike from fun Coe,
he was looking for a Billy Bob bobble head, Um
not Billy Bob's Big Boy bobble head, and um, he
was on eBay looking at it and it's just so expensive.

(54:36):
He's like, for these prices, I'm gonna make one. And
so he went to Bob's Big Boy and he got
his first bubble head done. And so for me looking
for Jett Jaguar toys all the time, I'm like, I'm
gonna make my evil version and like I can have
all of them. That's so dope. There's so many dope
variants too, because you because there's the Doom one that
we talked about that only I got. Sorry, people keep

(54:59):
asking huong to. They're like, yo, like, can you do
another one? I was like, we can't do if you're wrong,
Like he's got the one off. Look you know, I
would never be managed all, but don't do that. Yeah,
And um so we are running low on time, but
I just want to I guess we'll t R T
L d R kind of just some of the basics

(55:20):
some of the quick questions we have because there are
some things that you know, knowing y'all and talking to
you all about toy you know, culture, that there's like
all these like different things without like quote unquote spilling
tea or anything, but just like you know, honor things
that I thought was kind of cool. Like, so, uh,
I'm gonna let you guide that one. So I don't like,

(55:40):
you know, say too much. So you just mean in
collecting and uh everything. Yeah, basically um uh as as
a maker, I think there's there's always that thing between
you know. When I was getting my toy made, the
number one question was like whereas it being made? Is

(56:01):
a Japanese is a Chinese? You know, like because some
collectors are very particular in that stuff and that they
kind of hate on different things. And what's funny is
they don't understand that collectors in Japan don't care if
your toys dope, it's dope, and then we're in their collection.
And so there's little things like that are interesting, but
it's slowly watched away. It's definitely an old school mentality.
Well that's so funny because I feel like that happens

(56:23):
to a lot of like westernized fandoms, because I feel
like it's the same way with h with the anime
questions exactly, it's it's actually something that's being addressed with
a lot of people that it is. It is a
Western thing that that they definitely see like, hey, like
in Japan, they're like, oh, I don't care, it's you know,
I think that the words of foobie was for a

(56:44):
long time exclusively used as like high end Japanese kind
of thing, and then the people in Japan are like, no,
it's all called food. It's all soft. It's legitimately just
soft vinyl, just like anime is literally animation, and people like, no,
it has to be in Japan and it has to
metal ackwleness. Uh yeah, that's so crazy. So how is

(57:08):
it um? So we talked about kind of like the
creation as a pay as a paint or how is
how is it for you quang? When you like what
Obviously I think that the answer to this is going
to be like things that look cool to me, but
like how do you decide like, oh, that's a toy
that I want to paint, and how do you kind
of come up with the design? It comes to textures
and a lot of it you get really high and

(57:29):
I mean that because of the there's like a lot
of chemicals involved and so you've got to be really careful. Um,
there's a toxic pain. Yeah, that you have to wear gloves.
There's like you know after a respirator. You know it's
it's not I wouldn't call it dangerous, but there is
a lot of chemicals involved, and that's something that like,

(57:49):
as a toy painter you have to know because there
is a responsibility to your customers. And the paint that
I use specifically it's designed for final toys and chemically
bonds um. And that's why when you you know, you'll
take your your Marvel Legends action figure and you'll paint
on it with the critics and rub off. Well, part

(58:10):
of that chemical mixture is making sure this is the
right amount of thinner and everything that goes along with it,
so that it's just adhering correctly to the figure. Um
and and if you don't, you know, you can spray.
You know. I've had guys that will will paint figures
with the critics and they're like, oh clear, code them all,
but your figures end up like sticky, you know, and

(58:32):
like things like that. Um that, you know, for anybody
that buys one of my toys, I like, you know,
and Rocom has definitely seen me like like really like
toil over this kind of thing where I'm like, oh man,
it's not right, Like I need another day to make
this perfect, because somebody's gonna go home with this, and
this is my reputation. Um right. You can't have them

(58:54):
paying like three dollars take this thing home and then
the paint's flaking off of it, you know. And so
that's something I take very seriously. And so when it
comes to like color combinations and various things. When it
comes to the toys, I'll just look at something and
see how it's textured, what it vibes with. There's a
lot of like painting something that looks like something else,
like your Death Jaguar I painted to look like Doom

(59:16):
because I looked at it and it, you know, it
has like this vibe of like the Iron mask, you know, um,
you know, with the robot face and everything else, and
and Doom as a character that I like. I'm I'm
a big Jack Kirby fan um. And that's a That's
another thing people like a nerd out when they come over,
is I have like a Jackkerby original um. And so

(59:37):
you know, I always try to pay homage to those guys,
you know, the things that I love. And I think
when people look at some of my custom work, they
kind of get like if they would like me as
a person, you know, like like I try to put
a little bit of that in my work to where
they might be able to get my personality a little
bit more, or like oh yeah, he he obviously really
likes like John Carpenter movies or think things like that,

(59:59):
like you know, certain references. Yeah, that's so awesome. Wow,
those were great. Look, I'm gonna keep it real with you.
I don't know what that sounds like. We record this
before we couldn't put the clips together, but you know,
I wanted you to feel like I was right there
with what if it was all of the moments that
we messed up them us No, I trust, I trust,

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