Episode 100: Scary Movie

Dani and Ify celebrate their 100th episode with a special 20th anniversary look back at the Scary Movie franchise with guest, Rotten Tomatoes Film Critic, Chauncey K. Robinson.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello, and welcome to another edition of Notificent. I'm one
half of your host, Danny Fernandez. Sitting across from me
as always is your boy. If you way, do you wait?
Just jammed up, charged up, ready to go. I had
some chuckles and me gotta gotta gotta keep going. Right,
did you had a good birthday? We all came to
your birthday party? Oh yeah, I mean and the hangover

(00:31):
I didn't have. I feel like I have it now.
I have like a headache to go away. But you
know what hydration. You're drinking caffeine right now, that's the opposite.
Well that's because my body needs it. It's like I'm
giving you a headache cause you ain't drank enough caffeine.
So then you drinking love it, love it. Today we

(00:51):
are talking about a movie, um that is twenty years old.
We're old. Holy crap. Some of it, like so much
of it. It was so funny because as I was
watching it, UM, I was just like, wow, they were
the first ones to really do this. Yeah you can
hear you too, totally hear you. Yeah. Yeah, your boy's

(01:15):
back on keto. So my snacks are back to being crunchy.
So for everyone who keeps asking and keeping tabs on
everything I'm eating on Twitter. Yes, I'm back on Keto's now.
That would drive me nuts better. You've got no one
better write me a single thing about anything I eat. Ever, Well, yeah,
there's there's a there's a a nice trolley relationship I've

(01:36):
built in with our friends of the pod and the
stream and a super punch that everyone needs to make
sure the things I'm eating is keeping the keto. Thanks
for keeping me accountable. Now you can do it. We're
back on. My face is getting fatter. I was going
to say the thing that people try to hold me accountable,
which I've asked them not to appeatedly, is when I

(01:57):
post my workouts and I started posting a lot of
people know like I have lime in hashimotos and so
like I took up took a year, honestly off when
I was trying to heal myself from working out or
I couldn't work out to the level that I used to,
so I was like diving back in the last couple
of years of doing strength training. Now I'm like squatting
quite a bit. But like people will be your form
this and that and blah blah, blah, and I'm like,

(02:18):
I'm sorry, do you want me to only post when
it's absolutely perfect? Like that's not I'm posting my progress.
And also I did not ask you. I do not.
I literally have a trainer that you can see in
the video. So it's like I pay somebody so you
don't have to tell me crap. But still people will
tell me, like especially in the chronic illness community, they'll
be like, oh, man, like I saw you do that,

(02:38):
so then I tried to do it, Like that's the
whole reason I post. Yeah, I mean in the end,
like forms gonna shift and change based on the amount
of weight and struggle, and you know, like and there's
some dated like things people say about form, Like they're like,
keep your chest up, keep your chest up when you're squatting.
But if you have your chest up when you're squatting
big numbers, you're curving your back and that's way you

(03:00):
do not want to do that when you're squatting. So
I just laugh at people because it's like, oh, you're
not used to big weights. Don't ever talk to me
in your life again. Also, just a reminder, I have
my bachelor's Bachelors of Science and kinesiology, which is literally
exercise science from the University of Texas where all the
money went into sports. So just going to throw that
out there. It is our one hundred episode. Enjoining us today,

(03:25):
we have film and TV critic. She's written for Rotten Tomatoes.
It's Chauncey Robinson. Hi, Hey, thanks for having me. I'm excited.
You are a big horror head. Yes, yes, I love horror.
Horror is my jam. I do a lot of film
and TV critic reviews, but I can have a real
love for all horror that's so dope, which I usually

(03:46):
give it a lot more space when I review because
you got something, you know, you get those indie ones
and staff that aren't you know, I give space. So
what was your first like, uh, what is the scary
movie that you remember the most? Like? When how old
were you when he first saw I don't know, your
first horror movie. I don't know, probably like I mean,

(04:08):
my brother and my mom tell me it was like
six or seven years old. It was like the Nightmare
Elm Street franchise, which I was like deathly afraid of.
And any time my mom would go out and my
brother was ten years older, me would babysit. He My
mom was like, now, don't play Nightmare Stree, and of
course he would play it. At any time that Freddie
came on. He would cover my head with the blanket,

(04:30):
but of course I could still hear Freddie, so I'd
have dreams. And I never really knew what Freddie looked like,
so he always took the form of like my old
teachers or so ever, like trying to kill me with
claws of some sort. And it was really cool because
once I got older, Um, I grew up a lot
of boys, like so I was like the baby but
surrounded by all boys. So they would play tricks on
me with with Freddie and stuff. But then I got

(04:51):
oldered for some reason, there was like some sort of
switch and I just came to love Freddie and all
of that. And I just actually recently visited the Nightmare
elm Stree house that's actually here in Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah,
and it is. It was very exciting. I tried. I
stayed behind the bushes so that the homeowner when I
took my picture, but yeah, it was very it was

(05:12):
like a full circle moment. There's a couple of those
out here, a couple of famous horror one, Halloween one
is out here. It's a little bit further out. It
was more in the valley, the Halloween one. Um. I
also went to the Brady Bunch House too, isn't there one?
Is that the one where the Halloween houses and passage? Yeah?
I think yeah, the Halloween Yeah. And then right next

(05:33):
door to it, they have a very cool um gallery
there that has all the pictures from the So they're
kind of capitalizing on the fact that people go there
for it. Um. Yeah, because they actually they moved it.
They the house was moved because I guess it was
in line for demolition and they were afraid that, you know,
because it's like an historic part. So they just moved

(05:55):
it across the street. And now it's like a train
track right there. So there's only like a little bit
of part to like take a picture in front of,
which kind sects, but like you know, you kind of
get the selfie on the angle and then like high
behind a tree and like sate Michael and stuff. It's
so funny. Yeah, I know, like they have you been
to the Amityville House? I haven't. Yeah, there's so many

(06:17):
like horror houses and have you done any because Danny
is Um. I'm trying to find a better way to
say this, but I say crazy because she goes to
a lot of haunted places. Do you ever do any
of that stuff? Oh? Yeah, one of the things I
wanted to do when I mean I grew up. I
was born and raised in Jersey on the East Coast.
I can hear about about three years now down in

(06:38):
Los Angeles, and one of the things I wanted to
do eventually was like the go because a lot of
the haunted places seems to feel like they're more so
on the East Coast, like the Assylum and stuff. So
I want to eventually, like maybe spend the night in
one of those places and just kind of like fill
it here. An asylum I can't do. I mean maybe
maybe if I had like a crew or something with me,

(07:00):
because I did this like comedy ghost Hunting Pilot, where
we spent the night at Bob Baker's Marionette Theater, which
has a good vibe to it, and not all places do, um,
but someplace I would recommend is in San Diego. They
have the Whaley House, which I've been to multiple times.
In fact, I did like a paper on it, and um,
it's one of travel channels most haunted places. I think

(07:22):
you can't spend the night there. Um, it was like, yes,
it's an old town San Diego. Several people have died
for various reasons in that area and old town is
historical and it's awesome. Like there's a cemetery that's close by,
and there's like you know, people wear garb from that time,
and there's like candle making and and all of that.

(07:43):
The house is small because people were just like smaller
back then. You know. It's like everything's more petite, Like
the beds are petite, the doorways and stuff. Um, So
I love it. But yeah, actually I don't. I can't
remember if I've said this on here, but we just
filment back when he was more famous. He like spent
the night they're doing a story, uh as a reporter,

(08:05):
and he said he saw like a woman crawl up
the wall and he was like, I'm never never again.
Oh my gosh, you should do it, if you know.
I was so for BuzzFeed multiplayer, we're going to do
a video where we try and stream a scary game
in the Queen Mary, which is haunted, and like they

(08:25):
had the room set up and all that. But due
to like do to paperwork, like we yeah you know,
yeah yeah, the producing side of things like you know,
location releases and all that, we couldn't get get it done.
So everyone's like, oh dang, And I was like, yeah,
oh damn, I was. I hated it. It was so

(08:47):
like we're in the room and even with the lights on,
like there was this locked door, like it was like
it went no one would mention it, and I was like,
what's up with this? And no one talked about And
I was like, see this is a problem, Like y'all
got to explain everything in this room and I'm pointing
to this locked door and nobody want to talk to
me about it. But you're so much bigger than me.
It's so funny that I like openly go into these faces.

(09:08):
Well then that's the thing where it's like I wouldn't
be afraid of fighting like a monster or two per cobra.
But ghosts, you know, they don't you know, they don't
really hard to you. They harm you because they're terrifying
just that they are there. But there's not too too
many stories of them actually like picking up a knife
and stabbing you or something like they do in scary movies.
You can usually pick up on vibes to can you

(09:30):
like believe in that sort of thing? Like I have
three cats, so that's supposed to keep demons in that
spirits the way I really do believe in that. So yeah,
they're like royalty. Yeah yeah, Like historically I got the
segment tattoo right here. That's cool. If I was going
to say, while we're still talking to geeking out about
horror stuff, our friend Ali Gertz, remember she had like

(09:50):
Halloween party or whatever, and somebody was like, I'll bring
agi board like in the Facebook group, and I'm like,
unless you want something, if I'm there, something will happen.
Like I just a racked that open energy, and I'm like,
I don't, I don't. You're not gonna be like playing
around if I'm there, Like something's gonna percent show up.
Uh yeah, well, speaking of all that are what are

(10:11):
you what are you speaking out about? Um? Recently, I've
been watching The Hunters on Amazon, the al Pacino. It's
you know, executive produced by Jordan and Pill but it's
a really good one about uh Nazi hunters uh that
I really loved. I actually did a review on it
too that people can find on Rotten Tomatoes where it.
I love the fact that it mixes real history with

(10:34):
you know, this kind of origin of superhero of uh,
because we actually really did have like Nazi hunters back
in the ninety seventies and one, and there's still some today,
you know, in terms and um yeah, it's just great performance.
It's really bloody. If you like the Boys on Amazon,
then you like that. I didn't care for the Boys,
but I like this. I like the Gore is this

(10:55):
is similar, but I think the characterizations are a lot better.
And Alpacino it's a it's like his most Alpacino and
um yeah, it's great ten episodes and it's good, good
hearty um entertainment. Ye yeah, No, I'm super excited to
check it out because I've been hearing like, you know,
mixed sides where some people are like, oh man, I
love it and some people are oh man, you know,

(11:18):
and that I usually like, I feel like, you know, now,
there's this weird thing of like everyone has to like
or hate something. But I the more enticing to me
is because once again I'll go on this again, is
UH is like if you dislike something, you need to
be able to tell me why and go into detail
instead of saying this thing sucks, because that isn't criticism,

(11:39):
that's just being you're you're just that's nothing that gives
me no information. So uh, that's that's what I like.
Is I like watching things, even if I might not
not necessarily be the biggest fan of it. Is like,
let me see why don't but I'm probably gonna like it.
That's that's how I was with um, I can I
cannot stand Hereditary came out. I couldn't stand. I loved

(12:01):
it and I hate scary stuff. And then I actually
went to go watch mid Summer and after that I
was like, boo me once, shame on you, shame on me.
I'm never coming to a theater to watch areos. This
is so funny. I'm not doing that because I I
saw it with you, right, I saw Midsummer or whatever.
I did not like it either. I did not enjoy it.

(12:22):
It made me, but I was like he did. And
they had us fill out a survey after arts two,
and I felt so bad because I don't want to
give this. However, what for me? I was so uncomfortable,
did not enjoy it like that element of it, and
so I was like, you did your job if you
made me feel any type of way, and then having
no emotion, I'm like, you made me hate this movie
and I was so uncomfortable and you did your job

(12:45):
then if that's what you wanted, Like, you can't control
people's reaction to it. So but it's so funny to
hear that because so many people were in love with
it and I can't. You did your job, well, you
made me feel well, that's the thing with Ari. And
it's so interesting because I find that a lot of
like horror ends typically are like, Okay, we get what
you're doing, because like there's a formula and he kind

(13:05):
of goes against it. And that's kind of what I
like because it kind of spoon feeds me where he
just does long, drawn out dread. It's not very jump scary.
It's very slow paced and like and I just eat
it up. Did you um watch the problem with the
the or it's the weird thing about the kid didn't
sit through that? But I saw I was like nope,

(13:26):
And but then when I saw I found out about
that after I watched this stuff, and I was like,
this makes perfect sense. This guy had such a bleak
view of humanity. Yeah, there's just no hope. And I
know it's weird as a horror fan to say that
I actually enjoy hope and horror movies led to me.
I like, you know, when I dissect films, I look
at story structure, right, I look at you know, is

(13:47):
there a journey I can go on that I can
you know, hope for something, whether it's for the monster
or whether it's for the you know, protagonist. And I
just felt like he just has these movies where it's
just like there's no hope. What what is this like
two hours of just feeling really uncomfortable. It's it's so
funny because you know, I don't think it's a weird thing.
I think that's what makes horror enticing to a lot

(14:08):
of horror fans. I think it's it's the it's for example,
the movie because I just did um, Haley Mancini and
George oz is uh Godzilla podcast and almost like, didn't
god look them out during the reconstruction period in Entrepanels.
I yes, because Godzilla is an allegory the devastation of
the atomic bomb, and like that. I think that horror
moves is that same way of like, yes on the outskirts.

(14:30):
It seems like this very scary movie, but at the
heart of it, it's hope that no matter how scary
things get, no matter what's going down, there's hope that
you can survive, that you can outlast, you know, the
horrors of the world around you. And are kind of
just takes that and goes, no, everything's bad. Yeah, I
don't know if I want to keepetting my money. I understand.

(14:51):
I did it because I had a similar situation with
a video game. I forget what video game it was.
I'm gonna find out in we're talking, but it was
this video game where the premise the premises the world
the apocalypse happened, the world ended, there's not that many
humans left, We're not going to survive save what's left.

(15:11):
And I was like, well, this it seems like I
already lost, like an existential crisis. Yeah. I just like
after the intro, was like, I kind of don't want
to feel like the bad guys already wanted. Yeah. Well,
speaking of horror scary movie, would you say that there's Well, first,

(15:35):
what was everyone's favorite memory from this film? I remember
as a kid watching this, you know when because this
came out in two thousands, so now I wouldn't I
wasn't a kid. I was like a teenager and this
hit right at the age I needed it to hit.
And you know, like it was like it was that
goofy funny and you know, going back and watch there
are some things that just definitely do not hold up,

(15:57):
but in a way like it's it's like it kind
of like is still trying to be like funny. You know.
I feel like there's some stuff when people will do
like off color jokes where you can tell is just
being malicious and like making fun of where more it's like, no,
we're just having fun and this is just all silly.
And like the references to all the movies like picking

(16:21):
up on that was great. I said this before we
record it is I've also recently rewatched Screaming the Matrix,
so like I was able to kind of pick up
on those things, especially like they really did like knock
it out the park Um and I have to say,
it is ambitious to uh to do a parody of

(16:42):
Scared of Scream when scream itself is almost a parody.
It's a parody of slasher films, so like it's this
should not work, but because they play with it, they're like, Okay,
what if we take this and make it more slapsticky,
make it more you know, fart jokey, and it works
the literal most part. Job penis. I'm like a lot

(17:08):
of that by men, just like remember when they were
teens wanting to get laid constantly. Um so yeah, so
if he is right, it's twenty years old, it's and
a lot of it does hold up, which is is
uh to me. They were the first ones to really

(17:30):
make these parody films stick. Um. And that is the
Waynes Brothers. It's Keenan Ivory Waynes, and it was writers
Marlon and Sean and then they had collaborators Phil Bowman
and Aaron Seltzer. Definitely felt very guy heavy with all
the jocks. Oh, I think we can just slowly make
our way to this movie because the thing I do

(17:51):
like about the movie is it is so perfectly early
odds it from the outfits to the re princes. I mean,
so we have the opening scene that matches, it matches,
it's matching the opening scene of screen and um, I
didn't get the name of that. I remember back then,
I knew who the Carmen Electra. Yeah, that was Carmen
elect Gosh, why didn't I notice that was Karmen Electra.

(18:16):
It was funny too because they were talking about her
in Dennis Rodman Yes, and then they made a Prince joke,
which was, Yeah, it really kind of needed to have
her as that because so many of the jokes that
play were based off of her whole thing, like running
through the sprinklers and then that whole because she was
supposed to be like the next Pamela Anderson when all

(18:37):
that came out, and just what she said about Prince
about my boyfriend, I just screwed him. Yeah, that was that.
That whole opening scene was funny, but it also like
sets the tone for the movie in such a great
way because it's funny, but it it also is like
that scary movie violence, like even the gag of like

(18:57):
stabbing her boob and and silicone coming out, which like
also that's like it's there's a level of like like
not taking yourself seriously to allow that happen in a
movie and like play along with it. That. I got
to give props to Carbon Electra two because I feel like,
you know, people can be very guarding of their image,
and she's like, no, we're gonna make fun of myself

(19:19):
and my relationships. But it was um, but then it
was also still very violent, and then you're like, oh man,
this is pretty violent. And then she gets ran over
by her parents, who are who are you know doing
a little drive action. So it's like perfectly gets you
ready for the movie that you're about to see. Well,
I was gonna say, speaking and making fun of yourself.
This was on a Ferris breakout role how she became

(19:43):
known and I was watching this and I was like,
I would have been, So she was in her early twenties,
like so insecure about so many of these jokes. Like
it was it was also peak, like you said, it
was peaked, TRL peak like Brittany, Christina, Jessica whatever, all
of those which you kind of looked like a a
elaboration of all of them put together. Um, but even

(20:03):
the jokes of her like having Harry boobs or like,
there were so many jokes like that where even in
the second one to where I was like, man, that's
so funny. You just don't really see actresses being willing
to do that. Yeah, uh, and she definitely was. So
she also like just her comedy chops were the fact
that she hadn't really been acting for at least in
anything major. I was super impressed with. Yeah, she didn't

(20:27):
even have an agent when she she said in interviews,
like it was she didn't even think she had a
head shot. Yeah, that's so wild, I mean, and also like,
you know, I can't we can't get in a scary
movie without me play paying respects to the the parody
movies that preceded it that made it, which was my favorite,

(20:47):
Don't Be a Menace to South Central while Drinking Juice
in the Hood, which Keen and Ivory Waynes produced that
he was an actor director in Scary Movie, but he
produced that, and then even before that, he was a
writer and director of I'm Going Get You, Sucker, which one,
Oh my gosh, I always think about that, like it's
like a whole movie can be made on the bit

(21:07):
of the like pimp being released and yeah, in this
age that has passed him up. I'm like, that's a movie,
Like that's a draw, Like I would love to see
that drama of a pimp being reintroduced to the world.
And they like, no, pimps aren't cool anymore and they're
making fun of him. Oh yeah, so so the so
parody isn't new to Keenan Ivory Wayne. So like if

(21:30):
anyone was gonna do it, it definitely was him. Uh.
And of course, uh, since Keenan Ivory Waynes had a job,
so did the rest of his family. Yeah. I love
I love that model. So yeah, so then we go
from the murder to you we open up. We were
introduced kind of to our main cast as um, you

(21:52):
already said Anna Faris, and then we also had um
Regina Hall. But who was the the girlfriend that who
was spoofy the American pie Buffy? Yeah, Buffy? What was her?
What's the actress who played Buffy? Actress Shannon Elizabeth. Yeah,
so Shannon Elizabeth is playing Buffy. Anna Faris playing Sydney.

(22:15):
And Regina Hall. What was the name of her character?
Oh my god, Oh my god, Brenda Brenda. Yes, because
the Brandon Brenda, which honestly just these two Regina Hall
and an affairs. I want to I need them to
do another movie together because I remember, like, not only

(22:37):
in this movie do they kill it, but in Scary
movie too, they kill it and just there. The way
they play together and then on their own is like
comedy super team. I'm so glad that they brought Regina
Hall back for two at three. Okay, so the actor
that played Greg who's been he's been in like a
couple of other things to he always plays the same,
like the kind of dick. I just was like, this

(22:59):
man looks like he's in his late thirties. And I
loved it because it was actually and um I think
Regina to she was like thirty I think at the time. Yeah,
I just love the fact that that is so on
part because when you would see like Freddie Prince Jr.
He would be like twenty seven playing a fifteen year old.
I made all of us insecure, I think growing up

(23:20):
because he thought we were supposed to look like people
we were like fifteen or something and they were all
like twenty five. And actually make that joke in the
movie like oh they'll get like Jennifer Love huge tits. Yeah,
and like people who are twenty five playing then and
they're all joking because they're approaching thirty. That's so yeah,
that was so funny. Uh So they they're they're all

(23:40):
kind of sitting around chopping it up and and so
then we get to one of the one of my
first big laugh moments. This is one of the scenes
that I would just rewind over and over, which is
all the different news reporting on the killing, and we
get to black black news and it was funny because
it's is tackling because this was still when that trope

(24:02):
was live that you know, black people were killed first
and scary movies, so they they just kind of nodded
to that, got out and just was in. Then we
kind of get to be not too I know what
you did last summer, and we'll get into those details
right after this break and we're back. How are you doing?

(24:28):
Welcome back to nerdifficent Um. Your host if you wide away.
Across from me is Daddy Fernandez and our wonderful guests, Johncey,
how you doing. I'm good, You're doing a good job
so far. We have our guests place. This is something
that we we mentioned every couple of months is that
we're on the comedy side of the network, so we're

(24:51):
not all facts and uh yeah, yeah, we kind of
I can't say the word that I want to say.
We kind of talk around, kind of dock around. We
messed around, We messed around. We like to have fun here.
We're talking about fun properties as in scary movie. So

(25:12):
if you were getting into the I Know What You
Did Last Summer, which honestly, it's kind of funny with
those two franchises, the Scream franchise and the I Know
What You Did Last Summer franchise was just like two
teen high schools like battling each other at the time.
You know, it was like the Freddie Prince Junior, Sarah
Michelle Giller, and then you had um, um crap boy,

(25:32):
am I blanking on her name? Who's Nev Campbell? Yeah? Um?
And then Matthew Lillard and that whole you know, ended
up doing Scooby Doo and then and then that's in
the same universe. See, you had Freddie Prince Junior and
Matthew Lillard and Michelle Dillard came back together. I don't
know why I was doing scissors, um so yeah, So

(25:52):
I loved that. There were other things that they spoofed
in here, though, like a lot of pop culture things
that weren't just horror related. Yeah. Yeah, we had Matrix
pop up in there. We had American pie American Pie. Yeah,
there were. There's usual Suspects. My favorite part, one of
my favorite ports because I love that, you know, um,

(26:15):
this movie twists. I think we always think of, like
you know, the sixth sense. We think of, uh, you know,
Planet of the Apes. We don't talk about the cool
twist of usual Suspects. They're like, oh, I can't walk,
just kid, and I can and I'm cool as hit.
Like that is to me. It's so cool and I
love that they like truly did it and like there

(26:36):
was no joke to it. It's just like, no, that
we're doing this because it's like one of the coolest moments.
And I think movie twists. But so, speaking of those
pop culture moments, Roger Ebert actually said he remarked in
his review that to quote to get your money's worth,
you would need to be familiar with the various teenage
horror franchises. I mean, I guess so you don't think

(26:57):
that you would have to have watched I mean it's funnier.
You know they're making fun of it, but you can
just tell they're actually you can just tell they're making
fun of the dumb girl trope like in a lot
of it, like there's a scene with carminal Lecture that
we didn't talk about where like she has the gun,
the grenade, the blobble and she grabs a banana, you know,
and it's just like stuff like that where you always
are screaming in the movie, like why are you going upstairs?

(27:18):
Why are you going upstairs? You know, And so it's
just kind of like I think horror movies in general,
which is like what if he was saying that scream
was already kind of making fun of those. Yeah, I
think it also played on I mean not just the
horror pictures, but also just like we were saying, like
pop culture in general, like the fact that with Karma
Karmen Electra, she had to be that the main person

(27:38):
in the beginning because there were just so much of
her and the news of that in that area. So
it just made sense she was relevant and even if
you didn't know horror, you knew things about her and
Prince and Dennis Rodman and and just her being in
Playboy and stuff. So I thought it was one of
those things where it used horror and kind of not
even like to subverted, but like just what horror the
horror genre can be, which is a reflection at times

(28:01):
of twisted reflection of society in general, and so I
feel like there was some sort of like meta but
also comedy throwing into that because the Wayne's brother is
particularly keenan. They're just so like well first in that
sort of way that they go about their comedy. He's
just so smart. Oh yeah, he's definitely smart and ahead
of his time, and a lot of his movies will

(28:23):
show you that. But I think you made a good
point is you know, a lot of people, to go
back on our horror theory, which we went off on
earway in the episode. A lot of what makes horror
work is taking uh you know, things that that we
are actually fearing and growing. The reason Exorcist was as
big as it was was that was back when people

(28:44):
were afraid of demons possessing people and you know, Chainsaw
massacre based off of actual murders and nineties. This time
of time, there wasn't you know that many like horror
style phobias, which is why you had so many slashes,
because that's kind of like an easy go to. Everyone
is afraid of getting stabbed no matter what's going on
in the world. So it was I think it is

(29:06):
like to think of like that formula for a horror movie,
it's a parody. Is a no brainer because if you're
doing references, now you can reference you know, the things
we are scared of and you know, movies and stuff
and the like. And also that's my theory as to
why I think Midsomar was so popular because with all
these firefests and your and your like Coachella's like you can,

(29:30):
I think a lot of people, like people were able
to put themselves in the shoes. Was like, yeah, I'd
go off to uh, you know, nowhere a place to
like see this cool festival. Oh no, but it goes
it goes wrong. And I think women Summer Too just
played on the ignorance of of other cultures, treating other
cultures as the other. And I thought, of course it
was a safe bet that they made that culture white,

(29:52):
but it could have been any other and it was
playing into this whole newness like they worship their trees
like you know, like things like that was that was
the beauty of it, which I'm glad, like, Yeah, if
you're going to do the culture is scary and kills people,
you go ahead and make it away and I think
that's what Scary Movie was playing onto, like where we
were in pop culture where things where people were coming

(30:15):
parodies of themselves almost. I mean that's kind of how
it is now too, but it was like, you know,
playing on that path that we were going on. Yeah,
some of the other pop culture things referenced The Titanic,
which is so funny seeing that to Dawson's Creek up
in the beginning. I love when they could get actual
cameos by people. Um, the Budweiser was as that one.

(30:41):
Oh my gosh, so it's time. A nice little thing
I noticed rewatching it is that the beer that he
has says killer love it. I loved that they changed
the Killer's mask. I think that they had to probably
for a certain point. It's just for a copyright or

(31:01):
whatever like, so the mask wasn't exact one from Scary
move from Scream. Yeah, but then I loved how period
ghost face periodically, like as he got high it would change,
and like when he was scared he would it would change. Um.
And then also The Blair, which was the other scary
movie that they referenced as well, when she runs into

(31:22):
the woods Gail's Storm, Gail hail store storm and my
brothers and I used to always quote Officer Doofy reporting
for duty. You would always quote that and then him
like him with a vacuum. I can't like that. Well, also,

(31:44):
like here's a here's a funny thing that I noticed
they were really good at still, because I find that
when people are doing comedy and parodies, they typically in
a reason why a lot of these don't work is
they don't treat it as a real movie where you
have to leave bread crumbs and do this, and they
truly did because the slightest bread crumb is if you

(32:07):
pay attention to Doofi's underwear, they make his his um
uh his uh, his his member. I guess we'll say
to keep it clean long enough so that the scene, right, yeah,
if you look at the size of his downstairs, it's
long enough so that he would be able to do

(32:29):
that scene. I was like, huh, that's a nice little
note because I was thinking, I was like, why would
it Why were like I was like, this seems like
such a like subtle joke to make him like well endowed.
And then that scene came and I was like, oh
my gosh, they just left that like unnecessary bread come
of like yet no, he'd be able to do that. Yeah,

(32:50):
there was a plot I think that was like, you know,
sometimes you have those parody movie movies sometimes it feels
like there's just a whole bunch of skits thrown in
and some of the it or once We're kind of
similar to that where it seemed like maybe they weren't
as connected and conclusive. But this first movie, it really
told a story like there was actually like there was
some you know, one offs here and there, but it

(33:10):
still played into the characters and what they were going through.
So you actually were trying to figure out who is
the killer and the twist that happened, you're like, oh,
that is a twist, you know, it wasn't It was
actually a plot, which is great. It makes it, you know,
even better. Yeah. So the tagline for the movie's poster
was no shame, no mercy, no sequel. And then when

(33:31):
Scary Movie two was released a year later, that was
something that was so fascinating to me. This came out
in two thousand and they were able to shoot an
entire other movie in a year and release that and
the Scary Movie two came out in two thousand and one. Um.
The tagline for that was we lied, which I love,
also love that just wasn't addressed. Um. And we can

(33:52):
hop into this when we moved in a scary movie
two that they all died and then just like they
were back just fine. Um it for some of the
some of the male characters that I didn't care if
they like killed off. I think one thing we definitely
need to mention about the movie is that it was
very successful. Like it did well. It was a hit.
I mean, all the kids, everyone I knew was referencing

(34:15):
it top to bottom, and it was it was like
very vindicating for Keen and Ivory Waynes, who was forced
to leave in Living Color by Fox who produced the show. Uh,
and they decided to recut and air skits at random,
and it brought down the resell value of the show
which would have gone to keenan So they really did
do that thing where they screwed over the creator. Oh

(34:37):
and you could tell a d percent that he had
his hands on this, him and his brothers, Like there
was no way, in my opinion, that this movie would
have come out the same if a white person had
written it. It was just so many jokes talking about that,
like exactly what we said about like what happens to
black people in scary movies? And even just like so
many of the pop culture references. UM. So I'm glad

(34:59):
that it it has survived this like twenty years. I
did want to say. The original title of Scary Movie
was scream if you know what I did last Halloween. Uh,
and they might have just gotten flagged by legal um
and so they changed it to Scary Movie. It has
on the Tomato Meter, a current score, an audience score.

(35:22):
On Metacritic, it has a B minus. I also think
it depends on who's reviewing it. Yeah, I mean definitely.
This is one of those films where there's this specific
style of comedy was going for and some people just
aren't for aren't for against it, which is why, like
I always will stand on that belief of like even if,

(35:43):
like I think a great review on Rotten Tomato is
fifty if if if if half people liked it, half didn't,
I want to see it. I love, for example, one
of the examples, I will always stand by his mother.
A lot of people do not like it. I loved mother,
and I think you should see it. To see how
you feel about mother. Um, if you're not squeamish, there's

(36:04):
a lot that goes on. Yeah, but yeah, so and
I think of this especially. This was like in the nineties.
There was this nineties time. I remember I used to
for some reason torture myself and watch Ebert like give
bad reviews to comedies and like scream at the television
because I disagreed. Um. It's like it was like Twitter,
except I didn't get to bug him. Uh, you know

(36:26):
what a beautiful time that was critics. I used to
actually stay out late um on and on the East
Coast and watch um, Roger Ebert at the movies and whatnot.
I came on like right after the eleven o'clock news
because he was like, it's kind of he was very
much my inspiration for getting into film and TV cript
after I graduated uh college, And it was one of
those things where when I first started, I would look

(36:49):
at older movies and then see what he said, and
if they lined up, I'm like, I'm on the right track.
But of course he got it wrong. But one of
the things I always take when it comes to looking
at film like he did was that he tried to
look at what it was trying to achieve and who
it was for, you know, like he want to compare
like Oscar bait movie to you know, the run of
the Mill, like uh, comedy necessarily, and I think that's

(37:11):
the same thing with scary movie. It was trying to
achieve a parody and playing on that, and I think
it achieved that. Like above and beyond, m smart, smart,
smart critics brain right there. I like it, I wanted
to say, because we had talked about Anna Farris, and um,
this is Keenan said, the biggest surprise was on it.

(37:32):
It wasn't really a surprise, it was a gift, he said.
I had seen everybody and I kept saying no, to
the point that the casting people were getting pissed. But
I was looking for someone specific. I remember the casting
person saying I read a girl that I think is right,
but she's never done anything before, and I was like, size, yeah, okay,
see I love that though. And her co star John Abrams,
who played Bobby uh It said quote, Anna was just amazing.

(37:55):
I mean, to come in that green and to have
that kind of comedic timing was bananas, which I agree.
And of course everybody I was talking to my trainer
about this this morning. He was like, man, that scene
where she's doing it with him. I'm like, yes, we
all remember the end of that scene. I think when
I think of this movie, that's like the first thing
that comes to the mine. Yeah, the first thing that
comes to mind. Very guy. It's very like Jackass like

(38:18):
pretash point, oh, very much like in that same you know,
American pie vibe. Uh. And then one other thing that
I wanted to bring up before we move on to
Scary Movie Too is Regina Hall. So she I mean, yeah,
her her movie theater scene is so funny to me, Like,
I just love that. So she said when she was

(38:39):
getting Brenda, when she was getting that roll down, she says, quote,
I just remember watching Jada Pinkett Smith's scene and scream
to trying to get how she collapsed when she dies
in front of the audience. She said, I literally tried
to die like Jada. Shechem that it was definitely she
gave the last screen, which unfortunately I did laugh in

(39:01):
the original, which yea. So it was like that it
was so extra and I was like, that's great that
Jada did it and Regina did it too. I know, Yeah,
that there's so many scenes like that where they get
to recreate it and just have fun with it, and
I truly just enjoyed it, Like that scene, the scene
where she's doing the her talent for the beauty pageant

(39:25):
and it and she's like screaming and everyone's like, oh,
that's good, that's good. Like it's just so like so
fun because you just kind of remember those scenes and
it is like when you're watching the scene, you have
that suspension of disbelief in these movies and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But when someone gets to be like, okay, but that
was kind of silly, right, and you feel kind of

(39:47):
vindicated and get to laugh at it. It really did
like capitalize on that. Joel are amazing producer and researcher,
actually did make a list of all of the UM
pop culture. So these are ones that I haven't mentioned yet,
which is we talked about The Exorcist, but just yeah,
that was in this one obviously, the second one becauseam
which Carmen Electra mentions UM Election, the Shining Shakespeare in

(40:12):
Love which was playing in the theater UM, Thelma and Louise,
The Fugitive, Schindler's List, Boogie Nights Big Mama's House. Those
are actually Brenda. When she's killed in the theater, she's
killed by piste off movie goers, and she's like ruined
all those movies for them. Here's my favorite thing, though,
is because it's it's a misdirect joke, because everyone is like,

(40:34):
it's it's a it's a movie that like relates to them,
like there was a monk who was like film yes,
and then it's a it's a pope who's like Big
Mama's House. Uh goodness gracious, that one made me laugh
because it was so ridiculous. U. Plus, I love a misdirect. Um.
The sixth Cents, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, we said, the Matrix,

(40:58):
you said, the Usual Suspects and Halloween, so I think
we got all of them. Yeah that was all yeah,
so fun. And I like that Marlon Waynes ends up
dying even though he was a friend of the killer.
Um that's because we did that screen us. Yeah that
screen bit. I didn't realize back when I first watched

(41:19):
it how they truly did mock the beats, like down
to the dad being brought into it. Yeah, it just
makes you realize how like smart of a parody of
this movie is even when he's doing UM and then
during the credit scene where he's at the convenience store
and he's like, now, this just like in the show,

(41:40):
but in that one he's actually been making a grab
and dash convenience store. So you think he's talking about
how to survive a scary movie. It's like how to
survive robbing somebody. We have scary movie too, which you know,
I actually still liked it was you know, they did
have a uh a second run UM because then who

(42:02):
was the guy who played the small hand man. That's
Chris Elliott. Oh my god, and he is so I
literally wrote down and I put he is gross in
like every role because he was also in UM, and
uh there's something about Mary which he had like all
the hives and stuff. And then uh, in Ship's Creek

(42:23):
he's great, he plays the mayor, but he's also gross
in Ship's Creek and it's just funny that he has
like he plays that character so well. Yea, UM, but yeah,
it was that was right when you're coming into scary
movie too. They're obviously parodying The Exorcist. We had Andy
Richter James Woods, who I was like, uh, Tim Curry. Yeah.

(42:46):
Tim Curry was so great. Like I just I had
the biggest crush on Tim Curry in Clue. And I
love the fact that they took someone who's kind of
who's been in this world, you know, being an it
and like you got to play a part in like spoofing,
helping to spoof this. My when you said that your

(43:06):
scary movie when you were little was Nightmare on Elm Street.
Mine was House on Haunted Hill. It was the remake
one because that's like what they would show. I think
my parents had like Stars or HBO or something, and
that's what they would show. And that was also kind
of like the vibe here with like getting them all
to come to this mansion and spend the night. Um.

(43:27):
But yeah, I love that he was in it. We
also had David Cross. Yeah. It was super funny. Um.
And of course On Affairs came back, Regina Hall came back.
They replaced Buffy yeah, and the and then they had
one of the Masterson's, yeah, the brother. Also you know
you could tell his way back because James Woods. Yeah,

(43:51):
that's what I was said, yeah, And I was like, uh, sorry,
I thought you were saying that in the when you
said Chris Elliott, but you said James Wood. I was like,
why are you being so mean? And Chris Ellie, Okay,
I just miss her. I know this is when he
was cool, back when he was Hades. Yeah in Hercules. Yeah.
You know what's so crazy is that I read that

(44:12):
and I kind of mourned the fact that he wasn't
able to do it. But Marlon Brando was actually supposed
to play the part that James would did. He was
in his twilight of course, and like so he wanted
to do it though, but by that time he was
getting fed when he was always getting fed his line
in some regards, once he got kind of older, he's
getting fed his lines. He was on an oxygen matth

(44:32):
and he was trying to push through. They just said
we can't. We gotta let this go, like we can't
put it. But I would have, really, I would have
loved that had Marlon Brando, yeah, played that part. I
just and I was like, jas would but because it
would have been so great had Marlon Brando played that.
And we have to talk about the Exorcist girl. Do

(44:53):
you know who that is? If he that Russian doll
and Natasha Leone. What oh man, that is a woman
after my own heart. Yeah, it was like I love
a boss, I love red hair. Well, she was in
American Pie, she was in some of the right. Yeah,
she was in some of these um movies that they're parodying.

(45:16):
It's just so funny thinking of her and also a
Gina Hall that they've been like working actors for like
twenty plus years, like successfully, That to me is also wild.
One thing that I wanted to point out pop culture wise,
is they all of a sudden in the middle of
the movie and you could tell. I was like, oh,
this is so of this time they stopped to like

(45:37):
parody the Nike out. That's that's actually one of my
favorite really, it's like, that's why I remember this. Oh
my god, this conversion. If you don't know what we're
talking about, we'll put it in like the footnotes. But
if you're you know, older than Niffy and I and
don't remember this, if you google Nike basketball ad is
the first thing that comes up on YouTube still to

(45:59):
this day, kind of twenty years later. Um, what about you?
If he what points like stood out for you? Oh? Well,
the point that's still solid is just when the person
is falling and uh, grab my head is like use
the with him with the food. I mean, I forget that.

(46:22):
See my brothers and I used to do that to
each other. Yeah, yeah, it's so funny to like my jams. Yeah,
my jams. It was such a long gag too. And
that was the thing. I think that's what really made
a hit so hard is that it went so long
with how he did the turkey, how he didn't. I
was like that scene was like one of probably one
of the longest scenes in that sequel, and it just

(46:44):
was so funny. Yeah, that was the that was That's
the thing, is like you really do like a slow
burn of a joke where it's like you're just seeing
it and you're just getting everyone's reaction, and then he
messes it up so great. Uh. I would be remiss
without pointing out Tori Spelling. And it was funny that

(47:06):
she was in this and she's also a teen queen.
Was a teen queen, um, and I love the takes.
So they were copying Poulter Guys. Well, they copied Poulter
Guist in many things, but um, the scene with Poulter
guyst with the mom being pulled up like the wall
in her panties, but her like actually enjoying it and
wanting to lock this guy down and him piecing out

(47:26):
I thought was really funny. Um, the clown is also
from Poulter guyst that whole scene. So they had Amityville Horror.
We obviously mentioned the Exorcist, the Haunting, which I remember
from the nineties, Um, Changeling, hollow Man, Hannibal, the Legend
of hell House, and like I said, House on Haunted Hill. Um.

(47:48):
So for this, the budget was forty million. It grossed
one one point two million worldwide. The consensus, unfortunately on
Rotten to Itatos is quote a sloppy, rushed out product.
It was fascinating watching these compared to the originals because
I was like, oh, they got to cut the budget

(48:09):
by like just the filming was so different that I
was like, it's really great that they were able to,
especially with the first one, Like makes so much money
on something that is so low budget. Yeah, Well, it's
It's funny because if you ask the Wayne brothers, they
actually admit that it was rushed to, Like interviews afterwards,
you know, they're just kind of like, well, they wanted,
you know, things like they wanted a sequel, we weren't

(48:31):
even supposed to have one, and they wanted it quick,
and they pretty much they felt like they didn't have
enough time to put together like a really you know,
a cohesist. And you notice it too because in the sequel,
I mean, it just feels a little smaller too, I
guess because in the first one they were in the town,
you had all these different characters popping in and out,
and then this one they kind of secluded them in

(48:51):
a house, which is of course the haunted house kind
of trope, which is probably why it's not my favorite
subgenre of horror, because I like it when it's a
little bit larger light. But um, you could tell, like
I felt like in the first one it was a
bit more like cohesive with the plot but also really
playing on all types of things, and I felt like
this one was a little bit more slapstick. You know,

(49:13):
there are a lot more gags in this well, yeah,
like that was the thing kind of seeing them both
is the first one obviously is like this kind of
almost love letter to these horror films and really trying
to create this plot around the idea of a parody,
and this one really seemed like I was like, we're
just gonna try and be funny, Like we're gonna be funny.

(49:34):
It's you know, we've done the the artful love letter.
Now how many funny gags can we fit in? And
references and we start to like lean back into almost
getting into scary um like parody territory where it's not
as good. And I think three is where it leans
back even more. And then after three, so we talk

(49:55):
about the ones that I don't don't Yes, so there
were four seat goals. I forgot to mention that the
first Scary Movie had a nineteen million dollar budget and
gross two eight million, so they had a really good return.
And another thing I forgot to mention is that On
Affairs is not even on the cover because again she
wasn't seen as a star. Uh so I had the
Wayne's Brothers that had has Shannon, Elizabeth, Carmen, Electra and

(50:20):
then the guy who played like a fourty year old.
We have to take a really quick break and then
we're gonna hop into the future of scary movie right
after this and we're back. Welcome back. Everyone still talking
about the Scary Movie franchise. Yeah, so you know, we

(50:43):
talked about scary movie to three, we can kind of
glance through because, like I said, as as we go
forward down the scary movies, they get, um they get
less scary. Yeah. Well, it's so interesting because you know,
I'm on Keenan Ivory. Wayne's looking at his like producing
writing credits and like it stops after two. So we

(51:04):
should have mentioned that he for the first one was
the highest. He had the highest opening weekend for a
black director. Yeah, making history, Yeah, groundbreak. I mean I I,
of course, obviously as a writer and actor, I have
so many deep thoughts on black movie theories. And it's
literally how I was able to There was a podcast

(51:25):
called um what is it called the Fantasy Flicks League
that they doubted me and then I was right, which
was they asked me to guess the opening weekend for
um US and I guessed I believe it was either
uh forty or fifty million, and they're like, what for

(51:46):
horror and all this. I was like, well, look, you
got the guaranteed twenty for a black movie. You bump
it up to thirty because it's a good black movie,
and you get the other twenty for the other people
who actually want to see a black director, and what
does that's fifty fifty mill And let me see what
what did us opening weekend? Box office got opening they

(52:10):
had seventy one million, so so they well over my guests.
But I just knew he got the guaranteed. So anyway,
just to truncate this whole segment is I put a
lot of thought into, um, just that theory, and I
like that he made history. Uh but yeah, after that
Scary Movie three, he's not there. He went on to

(52:32):
make another banger, which I haven't I haven't rewatched, but
I probably should. White Chicks, Yeah, Little Man, which people
didn't like, but I actually kind of liked it. Um.
And then uh so so Scary Movie three, Well, okay,
so Scary Movie three and four were both directed by
David zucker So. He is the director and writer of

(52:55):
Airplane Film. He also was the creator of the Naked
Gun franchise. Is so he definitely lives in parody world. Yeah,
but to revisit kind of um, something that was said earlier.
When the Fox decided to stop uh Living Color and

(53:18):
recut and release it, one of Keenan was quoted as
saying that there was it was it didn't work because
it was an African American product made for African Americans
and you had these like white guys trying to figure
that out and that they lost that, which is why
it did worse. I do believe the Scary Movie franchise

(53:42):
is for everyone, but at its core it had black creators,
and you I think as a creator, you put yourself
in it. Yeah, and so when you have that at
your foundation, that that flavor is going to be looked
for in subsequent movies. And you know, this director is
the goat, Airplane Goat, naked gun Goat, but you you

(54:06):
don't have the flavor, you know, like, I'm not gonna
expect you know, uh, even Scorsese himself to be able
to do a reboot of Uh, Don't be a Medicine
South Central and it be good. You know. That's why
it's so funny to see, Uh, not to sound like
a snob, but it's so funny to see like directors

(54:27):
who are popping now and people go, oh, he should
direct this, he should go direct like so many people
are like Taka wat t teachers addressed. I was like, no, takeo.
Watt is an amazing director. But there are certain things
that he crushes at, and that's what he should direct.
We shouldn't, yeah, exactly, because everyone has a style. It's
just like music, like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
want to listen to Savage do at Tayman Paula song

(54:48):
and yeah almost fellow in my chair. But you're so right.
How did you say something so controversial? Ye's so right?
But yeah, so uh And I think that's why it
kind of like fell off, is it? It's moving forward

(55:11):
with an amazing you know, parody artist, but it's it
lost the flavor. But three still was the last one
I did in Enjoy because you had Anthony Anderson in
there and he was actually showed up. Yeah early early
heart Yeah like before he's in his bag. He's in
his bag now. But Anthony Anderson and he had um

(55:35):
those bad dreads because they were making fun of McKay
fiber's dreads. Yeah, it was so good. Um uh. In
in an Affairs is still in this one too, and
Regina Hall, which is also because I think it's for
they're not in it, right, she's in it. I think

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the fifth one is the one where no one from
the Origina, which makes the most sense. Yeah, I'm not
going to see this. I had read that they had
actually asked the Wayne brothers to come back for the
fifth one, but they turned them down, which makes sense.
I mean, they don't have to do you know. It's
one of those things. It's like an artist thing, right,
It's like what you decided to go ahead with three
and four without us, and now you want us to

(56:16):
come back to you. Yeah, but this one is making
fun of the Ring Signs Matrix Reloaded and eight Mile,
so already you know, it's it's interesting because it's it's
following the Ring plot, which once again, this could probably
be a great movie if they just honestly followed, like

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in the same way in the first one where they
create their own plot that surrounds that kind of surrounds
this parallel world of it. But it really is like
attacking it, for lack of a better word, word of
just like we're gonna make fun of it and not
we're gonna essentially honor it. Yeah, real life people they
had in this, Simon cow Eminem, Michael Jackson, and Pamela Anderson,

(57:03):
so they were still pulling yeah people, Oh yeah, because
I think it was still still you know, like still popping.
I went and saw it. Scary Movie four came out
in two thousand and six. I will just say I
wanted to point out um one of the writers on
both of those three and four was Craig Mazin, who

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does Chernobyl on HBO. So to me, it's really funny
go anytime. It reminds me of the Russo Brothers, who
did one of my favorite movies that I watched just
because it's dumb. Is you mean dupri and they did that,
And so I always think it's funny when you go
on to do something like huge, but like you look
back at your stuff and it was like, oh, you
wrote a scary movie three and four? Okay, okay, sir, okay.

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So and then there was five mm actually kids that
was in five really okay. I haven't seen it still.
I did not watch it for this podcast. Yeah you're like,
I won't put myself through that. Nope, nope. So but
but now we're we have some rumblings Lantern Entertainment is

(58:11):
thinking of rebooting the Scary Movie franchise. According to the
geek Nerd Nation. Uh So, my only advice to Lantern
Entertainment is like kind of know what made one great,
you know, like I wouldn't naturally be like, you gotta
get the Waynes brothers, but honestly, I don't. I think
you can do it without them, And I think they're

(58:33):
past this, they don't want to revisit this, but just
really just knowing what although Marlin did a haunted house,
oh that's true. So I don't know. I think he's
still in. I think he's still down. Yeah that you
can also watch all not all of these, but you
can watch that on on Netflix. And I watched one

(58:53):
and two last night on Netflix. Um, sorry to me
to cut you off, but yeah, so I think they
might actually be That would be nice. It would be
a nice touch, even if it is just like if
they're doing a whole franchise to pass the torch, just
have it off. I think it's a right time for
it too, though we've seen I mean, there's the whole
bit of like elevated quote unquote elevated horror and what

(59:14):
that means, and you just had a resurgence of the
horror genre for one, but also just kind of getting
into the mainstream of you know us and of course
get Out and Hereditary and Midsummer others and other films
around that. So I think it would be it would
be interesting to see how they parodied I mean, the
whole conjuring universe right for oh man, I just you

(59:36):
saying that just made it makes sense in my head.
Is if they just kind of do attack like the
elevate the idea of an elevated or like. I think
that though they could, because you know, the scary movies
they made fun of, like the teen genre too, so
I think this one could make fun of the superhero genre.
I think that people have been waiting to do that.

(59:57):
Uh so I feel like that could also be like
just a lot of the tropes that we still see
you with them. Um yeah, all right, Well wasn't there
a Superhero parody? Oh yeah, Superhero movie? But I mean
that was technically done way too early. Here's the thing. Yeah,
so I mean something that people will actually watch, okay,

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because I don't know if anyone saw. Yeah, let's say
Superhero movie that was also two eight done by Craig too,
because we've had so many superhero Superhero movies were different
back then, so I feel like they were almost parodying different,
like different, they're not paring the Marvel and d C
of today, So but they should. Gosh. I love that

(01:00:42):
they did it in the style of the scary movie
like seeing where they're all in the movie seats and
everyone's like, oh man, well I think we have to
wrap up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Chauncey. Where can people find you?
Um well? A lot of all of my um film

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and TV criticisms can be found around Tomatoes, also the
international publication People's World, and also on my YouTube channel
Twist and woman c KR Dope. I wanted to say
give a shout out to some of the sources that
we used today on the podcast. Would be Adam K.
Raymond who's at Vulture, Roger Eber dot com, Entertainment Weekly
articles by Shirley Lee, Alan Carter, and Rebecca Rebecca Asher Walsh.

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