Episode 32: Street Fighter

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yea, hello, welcome to Nottificent. We're done with spooked Ober.
It's always spooking in my heart and it's always spooking
in your heart. I'm haunted. Oh yeah, you you. You
keep saying that and I'm like, oh, you know, you

(00:23):
should come hang out with me after hours because I
don't want that. I was like, m m yeah, very haunted.
Um today, Oh I'm Danny Fernandez. Sitting across from me,
is iffy. Why what are we culture kings waiting into?
Like three hours into the episode before we introduce her.

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Right by the way, I forgot. We're covering the Premier
Fighting Game. Yeah, the Ultimate Fighting Game, the premier Fighting game,
not the Ultimate Fighter Championship. I guess that's what UFC
stands for. Ultimate Fighting Championship. Yeah. Uh, the Ultimate Fighting Game,
the game that is basically the staple. To be honest,

(01:06):
it's pretty exciting to talk about. We're talking about street
Fighter street Fighter. That's actually the crossfire. Definitely wasn't street Fighter.
You'll get caught up in the Street Fighter. Yeah, street
Fighter it should be, though it should be commercial had

(01:26):
way too much soul, way too much soul. If he
did you know that our good friend Kyle A. Bear
is the voice of re You. Yeah, yeah, he said
it on the episode he was here. So if you
didn't know that, and did you know that it's pronounced
re you, it is. And yeah, remember that long run

(01:48):
about how I was the elitist weep? Yeah, I knew
it was you. Yeah. Um we call it and die
where we're from? Wow wow if um, do you remember
the first time you played street Fighter? Oh? Man, I do.
I think the first time has to be uh So

(02:11):
my uncle, which in true Nigerian fashion means one of
my dad's friends who was really close with uh I
would go over his house and he had three sons
and they had street Fighter on the Sega Genesis and
they had one joystick and then the rest was the
Genesis controller, which, if you remember, the Genesis controller had

(02:34):
a directional pad, start select, and like three buttons and
then um, if you had the joystick, it had way
more than that. So the trick was with the with
the deep pad, you had to like hit the I
think it had bumpers on it and you had to
hit the bumpers and hit the buttons for other buttons

(02:55):
to trigger. Basically what I'm trying to say is uh.
It was way harder to use the controller than the joystick,
and we were constantly fighting over who gets to use one.
But that was my earliest experience with street Fighter. I
think my earliest experience was actually playing street Fighter too,
which is most people's are not most people, but I
feel like it's pretty yeah. I mean, street Fighter one

(03:20):
is like a good memory when when you say street
Fire you are pretty much talking about two so on
and so forth. No one's ever liked, let's pop in
that first one. I mean, I bet there are some
street Fighter one heads. Those people are insane people. If
anyone ever retrovinted I like the original. If anyone says that,

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they will be laughed out of the arcade. So where
did street Fighter come from? That's a very good question. Well,
street Fire came from a Takashi nishi Yama, not Takashi
six nine. I wonder if he had any reference to this.
Probably not. I don't think he's that cultured at all.

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But he's sometimes credited as Piston Takashi and is. He's
a Japanese video game designer, director, and producer, and he
worked for irim, Capcom and S and K before he
ended up finding his own company, Dimps, which that's actually
a name I've heard before. He started his career at
I RIM, where he developed early arcade games such as
like Moon Patrol and Beat him Up in Kung Fu Master,

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which is a great entry because then at Capcom he
ended up making Street Fighter, the fighting game, and he
also worked at S and K where he created Fatal
Fury and he worked on the Art of Fighting and
King of Fighters as well as the running gun shooter
Metal sluv All games. I really loved. That's super exciting,
and it is interesting that he went on to from

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Street Fight to Fatal Fury because they have similar systems,
but now they kind of separate there there they went
their own way. That's so cool. Yeah. I actually I'm
working on a video game that's similar to those where
I got to create my own character, and uh, that'll
come out in so excited. Yeah, I've got some more
goodies to spill throughout this, but yeah. So Street Fighter

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is a fighting video game franchise developed and published by
Capcom and serves as a company's flagships series. The first
game in the series was released in nineteen seven. Since then,
five Other Man, that was your chance if that was
a year before we were born, you're not going to

(05:33):
oh no, did people give you two? Okay, okay, if
we I'll just look over at you and wink and
you'll know. Since then, five other main series games, as
well as various spinoffs and crossovers, so many something that
didn't even look like there was like a Jeweled one.

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I don't know if you remember that one, but it
didn't even have the same animation or style at all.
So Street Fighter two is credited with establishing many of
the conventions of the one on one fighting genre. The
game's playable characters originate from different countries around the world,
each with a unique fighting style. Yeah. Uh, and and
that is true. I mean many fighting games. When you

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remember growing up, when you play games like Fatal Fury
or Mortal Kombat, if you wanted to do a technique,
people would go, oh, just do the how do you can?
Just do the how do can? Because you knew it
was a quarter circle turned forward plus a or B
or whatever button. It just became commonplace. And that's how
you know something has been made a staple, just kind

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of how like every petroleum jelly is called vassoline, or
every bandage is called band aid. Like you you've become
the golden standard of the fighting game and uh it.
But before that, it all started with Street Fighter, which
was which debuted in arcades and have been one year

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before we were born. In this game, the player takes
control of the martial artists Reu, who competes in a
worldwide martial arts tournament spanning five countries and ten opponents,
and a second player can join in at any time
and take control of Reuse American rival Ken, like the
most American. I love it Ken, But what was crazy

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was it wasn't as dynamic as Street Fighter two. It
was very basic, very dumbed down. It really if you
look at one, you'd be surprised that it has anything
to do with Street Fighter two. It would. They did
a huge overhaul for the next game. Yeah, So he
had three special attacks. The player can perform three types
of punch and kick attacks, each variant speed and strength. Haducan,

(07:44):
which you said probably most popular, yea. Also the shore
you can and then the this one. I'm not as
familiar with Skimpyaku or the helicopter kick. The helicopter kick
no one in the history of people I've played Street
Fight with is called it the tatsu maki simpayaku. They
always say, I'll do the helicopter kick, and the haw

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ducan is the fireball that everyone knows. The shore you
can is the flaming upper cut or regular right sometimes,
And like I said, the helicopter kick, which if I
remember correctly, how ducan is the quarter to circle forward
plus punch. The tatsumaku simpaku is the quarter circle back
and the kick, and the shore you can is almost

(08:29):
a Z motion like a forward down in the corner
down back corner. It basically you make a Z motion
with your joystick and hit punch. Yeah. So, Street Fighter
has remained Capcom's second biggest franchise behind Resident Evil, and
it's currently Capcom's third best selling software franchise behind Resident

(08:50):
Evil and Monster Hunter. It's another one that you like
like Monster is my favorite game franchise. Which is funny
because before we even get into this, these three games
that were mentioned all fall victim to why there's thirty
different Street Fighter games but only five main arc games

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Capcom is. I feel like their company motto is if
it ain't broke, don't fix it, Just add some stuff
to it because a lot of their games will have
multiple versions, like what Nintendo is two consoles, Capcom is
to video games. Uh And if you're unaware, Nintendo likes

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to make new, flashy versions of their consoles that would
make you feel dumb for purchasing the previous version when
they dropped the DS or over even before that. So
you had the game Boy, then you had the game
Boy Pocket, which was a beautiful change because the game
Boy was a giant brick. And then you had the
game Boy Pocket. Then they had the Game Boy Color,

(09:53):
but that one was an actual minor advancement because you
were able to get color in your games with different cartridges,
but they still able to play the older games and
from the game Boy Color, if I remember correctly, we
eventually led to the Gameway Advance, and the Game Boy
Advance was this nice shape, um like, it was like
almost like a smiley face. But I like the aesthetic

(10:16):
look of the game Boy Advance, but it didn't have
backlight and such. So then that eventually led to the
Game Boy sp which would flip and then also had
a light, but the light honestly was trash. Then when
you had the uh S piece somewhere along there there
was the Gameway Advance Mini, and then we had the DS,
then the d S had the d S, I had

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the d S x L, and you can see and
so on and so forth. Capcom is the same, and
you will see after the launch of Street Fighter two
when they picked that up. But I wanted to kick
that off early because you mentioned Monster Hunter, and Monster
Hunter has had multiple iterations, and if you're following the series,
you know when you're being served the same dish, because,
for example, the Switch just got Monster Hunter. I think

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it's Generations Ultimate, which was actually Monster Hunters Double Cross,
which was released in Japan, which was Monster Hunters Generation,
which were released in on the three D S. So
it's really just a part of a three D S
game with a new fancy name that makes you forget
that fact. That's how I feel about Apple Products. If yeah,

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remember how for the past few weeks we brought in
all these experts and we're like, well, we're gonna talk
guess guess who's going to talk way too much about this.
This is one of my one of the things that
I am a super fan boy about. Um Street Fighters
one of those games we're all talking about Street Fight
before even going into it. But Street Fighters one of

(11:44):
those games that I wish I could be good at,
Like I wish I was that dude. Yeah, but I
feel like a lot of these fighting games are set
up so that beginner or you know, more novice players
can play. Oh yeah, but a lot of the fighting moves,
they make it easier. And I feel like when dragon
Ball Fights came out, because it's I mean basically the
same thing. It's largely based off of this fighting style.

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They've made it so that you can compete. I mean,
obviously when you see professional level players, it's different, but
they have made these games easier for more novice or
casual players. Oh yeah, I feel like, uh like it.
That cliff though, from like when you're playing with your
homies to stepping anywhere near a tournament is so you

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want to be in a tournament. I've competed in two tournaments.
Uh one. I compete at one in a game stop
local tournament when Street Fighter four came out, and uh,
I remember using I brought my game stick. I was
so amped up on my business the year. Is that normal?
Do you bring your bring your own game stick? Because

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because some people will build custom one. So I come in.
I'm ready, I'm amped up, I'm ready to go. I
progressed the first round and then I get bodied second
boom on. So that's the second. And then the second
time I did a fighting game tournament was at E
three at this marijuana after party, and then they had

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the stone Gamer street Fighter Tournament, and I took that
to mean that it was like you you had to
be stoned, you're a stoned gamer. Uh fighting tournament. So
I went and they had like these like five dollar dabs,
and I was like, all right, cool, let me play
by the tournament's rules. Get two blitz. I don't want
to be a cheater. You know what they meant is

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stone Gamer is the brand, and this is a very
real fighting tournament. Still progressed to the first round, which
if I was inebriated and still got it. But then
it was a close second match, but he barely beat
me out. But they were playing uh street Fighter two

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tournament edition. They weren't playing like the newest street Fighter. Okay, yeah,
I was gonna say. I competed in the Dragon Ball
Fighters tournament for with l a Gaming Society, which Chris
for Smith Bryan and Cann's backman came on to talk
about in our lgbt Q episode, and Um, yeah, I
beat the first round because I'm a casual gamer, I

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would say, and I advanced to the second round and
then and then lost. I will say, Uh, dragonball fighters,
these controls are way more intuitive than street fighters because
their controls that you're able to do special abilities right.
But for sure fighters, you're doing just finger gymnastics. And
that's why I think I'll never be good at it

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because I got dumb fingers. I can't play the guitar
dumb fingers. That's why I stick to FPS s because
at least I can kind of my wrist is strong.
I've trained it very well. If I wanted to say,
speaking of getting high, I don't know if you knew,
but l A comic con was this past weekend and
I was a little bit stressed out and Eric Vale,
who's a voice of Future Trunks uh and dragon ball

(14:53):
Z gave me an edible and he is he is
bigger than me. Um, and I didn't look at it
and I got way too high and it ruined my life.
For two or four hours. I lost track of time.
But let's be like you. You were lucky you didn't
get a call from me, because Danielle Radford did, and
so did like three other comedians who I needed to

(15:13):
talk to to call me down because it was it
was too scary. Um gosh. Check, Hey, this is the
p s A. When you get an edible, check what
dosage it is. Don't be dumb like me and just
put it under the tongue that if anything, you know,
November six is literally today. Uh, you know, lots of
legislation is rolling out to legalize marijuana and your respective states.

(15:37):
We can give you us the the weed vets in California,
can give you any piece of advice. Uh check that
you don't want to ruin your life for two to
four hours. Uh well, technically I was high. The next
day I had to work out with my personal trainer,
and I'm just proud of myself for going in anyway.

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Street Fighter to the World Warrior was released in It
was the first true sequel to the original Street Fighter.
It was one of the earliest arcade games from Capcom
CP system hardware, which was designed by a. Kira Nishitani
and Akira Yasuda, who were also responsible for Final Fight
and Forgotten Worlds to other games. Street Fighter two is

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the first one on one fighting game to give players
a choice from a variety of player characters with different moves.
Kind of fascinating that that is so common nowadays, but
they were the first ones to do it. I mean,
it really was ahead of its time because while it
looked kind of broke down when I when I was roasting,

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it did have pretty intuitive controls, but it really was
and they definitely a lot of things that kind of
changed the game, like, for example, so one of the
cool things which Street Fighter two was actually it was
kind of the I wouldn't say the origin of the
combo but definitely the origin of the modern combo use
because uh, in Street Fighter two, players eventually learned that

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they could combine several attacks that left no time for
the computer to actually recover if they time them correctly.
And it actually was an accident, it wasn't an intended Actually,
lead producer Nori taka Funa Mesu actually noticed that extra
strikes were possible during a bug check on the car

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smashing bonus stage, which, if you didn't know, Street Fire
two had a bonus stage where you just got to
beat up a car, which was really tight, but he
thought that the timing required was way too difficult to
make it a useful game feature, so he left it
in as a hidden one, which might make this the
origin of It's not a bug, It's a feature the

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earliest renditions of that UM which, once again, since we're
trying to loop everyone in, if you're unaware of game memes,
it's not a bug as a feature is a kind
of meme that you make for uh A, usually a
game past that has way too many bugs and and

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and you're like, why why I paid for this um?
If he I was thinking that we could get into
some of the big key fighters right after the break. Okay,
let's do that, and we're back and we're going to

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start it off with the main man. Yeah o g
the one and only you. Yeah you is is fun,
mostly because he is a He is probably one of
the strongest well balanced characters in the game. Let me
see what his current tier is. Oh my gosh, I
have to explain tearless to some people. I wanted to

(18:50):
say that he's often compared like, you know, I was
looking up his character as far as his personality, and
he is compared to your other favorite dude, Goku as
well as Luke be from One Piece um as far
as they're like personalities slash like, yeah, especially Goku being
the main protagonists. Yeah. So what I meant by tier

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list is fighting games will always have a tier list,
which is a list that of the strongest characters to
the week this and sometimes they'll even be broken up
into S tier, A tier, B tier tier. I can't
say that that's my first time here as my first
time actually slipping up on the cast. You, on the

(19:32):
other hand, oh, I often. But basically right now, first
Street Fighter five O this is new U is currently
ranked thirty, which would make no, this isn't ranked, this
isn't ranked. Well, while you do that, I'm going to
explain for you a little bit. Uh so. Yeah, So
he premiered in in the original Street Fighter. He is

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the lead character of the game, I would say, along
with his best friend Ken Masters uh and for other
games seem to show him highly focused on his training,
aiming to become the strongest he can. However, his powers
also attract several criminals who want to use him for
their plans, such as m Bison, who's another character will
get into UH in some games have an alternative evil

(20:17):
reu form UH. And that was in a Street Fighter
Alpha three. Okay, so I did a lot of search. Yeah, yeah,
I want to talk about this because I'm gonna explain
to your list. I'm gonna explain the problems I had,
and I'm gonna explain what happened. So tier lists are
usually in fighting games. They'll rank the characters from S
all the way down to see as to just who

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is the best in the game. That tends to be controversial,
reasoning being because in the right hands, if a Nube
is using an S tire and someone like Sonic Fox,
who is like the best player in the world, is
using a C tier, they're probably going to beat the
S tier player. It'll be harder, but it's good. So
the new chart they have is like a freaking um

(21:04):
what what is it called? Would be called an X
graph I never did well in Man where it's like,
yeah that you do an x Y graph where on
the farthest uh left is has fault on, the farthest
right is well rounded, the bottom is low tier, the
top is top tier. So so like it's like really

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hard to look at, but I did find the letter
grade and currently based on this, uh we have Yeah,
re You is bat here, which is I mean, that's
usually his tear. I'm not mad at b Tire because
he's a well rounded character who everyone's kind of can

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get pretty far with him. But I imagine as you
progress and get deeper into the game and fighting like
stronger players, a lot of the tricks that you would
use to be good with re you are Are wouldn't work. No. Currently,
re You was at the bottom of the teer list,
so interesting. Yeah, but I digress. I've spent more. I'm

(22:13):
glad you explained. I'm glad that you explained the tear
list to everyone. I did want to say that he
re You also appears in a lot of the crossover
games that Capcom has done, such as Marvel Versus Capcom,
which is like this huge game, um Project x Zone,
and Super Smash Brothers. You never really picked him though,
I have. Oh yeah, I am sorry. I was going

(22:35):
to say, I'm a Kirby person through and through. You know, Kirby,
you can suck them up and you can take on there. No, listen,
you can everyone fights with me. You can suck up
that person take on their powers. You can take on
anyone's powers, and if you're an awful person, you can
suck them up and walk walk off the cliff, which
is what I love. I mean, if you have more
stock than him, that's like the baller move to do um. Yeah,

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re you. What was unique about his entry into Smash Bros.
Is uh, normally because Smash Bro spans mini games, even
Cloud Strife from Final Fantasy set, the top tier Final
Fantasy was was put into the game. And usually you
have the Smash controls, which is, you know, your smash

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button and the other one is just attack. Right looking
at Dan who knows spans the buttons and smash. One
is smash and the other is attack. Yes, there's a
there's a basic attack of a smash take Okay, yeah,
so Texically there's two buttons for smash. You can either
be direction or see stick in a direction. Okay, well,

(23:36):
no one's doing all that. Okay whatever. You might be good,
I'm not. But so you have your smashing, your basic attack.
Where were you? Though? He kept his traditional street fighter
controls in Smash so so your hot dukin would be
your quarter circle turn. He would do the sin pop

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the Helicopter Kick and this Your You Can, which was
crazy when that was announced in the Nintendo direct every
like it was just like you know that meme where
it's from the Predator where they're doing the handshake. That
was like the Smashing street Fighter community coming together, because
I feel like Street Fighter players were like, oh, I

(24:18):
can jump into Smash and use REU, but you can't
talk about REU. You can't talk about the top tier,
the top tier good folks in Street Fighter without bringing
up chun Lee now popularized by Nicki Minajah. But we'll
get into that, will Yeah, Because she said I'm the

(24:38):
bad guy chun Ley, and chun Ley is not. Chun
Ley is twelve. Shenley is the cops. She is a cop.
That is her whole every story she's chasing down. Maybe
in the first one she was to watch, she's definitely
an adult and some of the other ones. Yeah, No,
she's definitely adult because she's like a cop and she's
the one hunting down and Bison, so like, yeah, but

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I guess in the first one she was twelve. Yeah. Yeah,
So she was the first female fighter of any fighting
game franchise. That's super dope. Yeah, that's super dope. I
I like seeing the cause play of her at the
cons we go to a lot. If he calmed down,
and well, that's what I was gonna say you, I

(25:22):
don't know if she's twelve. She's heavily sexualized in many
of the her iterations, like her boobs got bigger and
bigger and bigger. No, I'm just saying like, I'm not
complaining about it, and my girl got curves, like like
the the age has never stopped anime from something. I
see what you're saying, but I think, but I do.

(25:43):
In defense of Street Fighter, she wasn't sexualized until she
kind of got into that more cop role. But um,
let me double check by looking at Street Fighters. Two
concept are Yeah. So she made her first appearance in
Street Fighter to the World Warrior. In the series, she's
an expert martial art this and also an officer who
restlessly seeks revenge for the death of her father at

(26:06):
the hands of the nefarious m Bison, leader of the
Shadowaloo crime Syndicate. Yes, yeah, and she's become a mainstay
of the franchise, one of the most popular figures. And
I know, and that's so interesting because like, yeah, like
that that story seems like it kind of didn't carry
over because like that's why she became a cop, and
that's why she's like hunging down the Shadowloo so hard

(26:26):
is because they killed her father. Um. But yeah, you
do get to a lot of you do get to
see more of their personal stories in the comics because
there's a street Fighter comic, um, several of them actually
where they had to kind of pick and choose which
characters they were going to focus on for their storylines. Yeah,
the early Chunley artwork wasn't as like thick, like you know,

(26:51):
like like I'm looking at her thighs in the early
artwork and I'm like, yeah, this is a much different
Chunley because like this is Chunley. Back in the day.
It was like, yeah, those those are just like muscular thighs.
Now they're like, okay, these are Instagram model thighs. Now,
she can beat you up. You know what, she can
squ you Have you seen those YouTube videos where they

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smash a watermelon with their thighs. Oh yeah that's um
Courtney Olsen. She's a body lifter. She's very uh, she's
like a feminist kind of public speaker. Now, I've I've
followed her from when I first saw that meme go viral,
and that's her thing. Like she'll do public speaking and
then she'll train a whole bunch of women to crush watermelon.

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Yeah I think I could. Um. Yeah, she has a
whole clothing line now it's called like Girl but spelled
like Girl Girl Power. Like she she's actually very positive
on the and she's like her own CEO, and like,
you know, I follow her and she gets me pumped
for the gym. So so yeah, definitely check out Courtney

(27:54):
Olson if you were enamored by the watermelon smashing videos. Um.
But then we have kind masters, uh, which you know
he was. He's the number one TRIPLEO g Yu's wing
man from the beginning, but Ken is the best friend
and rival to Ryu, who has also appeared in All
the Street Fighter James. Ken's goal is to test his

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power against many different fighters and strives to become stronger.
I'd say Ken is Goku's vegeta where like they're always
you know, fighting each other, and like when you get
into the movies and get those cool moments where Ryu
turns evil, it's Ken who's like trying to kick his
button take him back down to Peckot. Next up, we

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have Sigot, who is also really popular. He was once
an unplayable boss, he later become a playable character. Um
He's depicted as a well renowned movie tie expert, known
for his incredible power and height. He is taller than lanky.
His signature moves is a tiger knee. He's often called
the Emperor of movie tie in his home country. Um

(29:00):
Got is very cool because the the fabled story because
he's always had a scar on his chest and everyone
was like, dang, what's that scar from? In the scar
comes from a how ducan from reu So he's like
whenever use like big boss rivals, but he technically is
now a shadow Loo Lackey. Also what's interesting is it's

(29:21):
always cool looking at the Street Fighter too artwork and
the artwork we've gotten into as recently and like Street
Fighter three, because Sgott was actually a pretty traditional looking
movie tie fighter who was kind of like he was
a thinner character. He had like long legs and now
Segott looks like the rock is playing. Really Yeah, he
always used to be a lanky Yeah, he was like

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lanky and that's your typical movie type because it's a
lot of like kicking knees, so you're you're like, you know,
flailing your your extremities about so you need to be
a little more quicker with it. But now Segott is
a straight monster and that's the sgot I ride for.
Is thicks a god? But yeah, speaking of thick players,
super thick. Yeah, we have Zang often called the red

(30:08):
cyclone or Daddy to something God. I do want to say.
Um so he appeared in wreck itt Ralph along with
ryu who so Kyle got to voice that and Rich
Moore who's the director of wreck itt Ralph voice dand
Gefe in that, and I think that they might one
or two of them might be coming back. Yeah you

(30:29):
heard it first. And uh, I am also in that movie.
I don't know if I've said that yet on this podcast.
I don't think I have every time. I haven't actually
said it at all. I haven't said it at all
every time, wearing a shirt every character myself. Um no,
if he this will have dropped. So this is November

(30:49):
six if he came to the premiere with me, But
Ralph breaks the Internet premieres, I knew surrounded myself with Danny,
I'd be able to ride her coach greatness and that's
paying off every day. I wanted to say. I talked
to Rich and he said that people will send people
will make like an appropriate ZANGI like art of of
Ralph and Zany right, I know. Yeah, he was like

(31:15):
some of the artwork of like you said, Daddy, they're
very um. You don't put a thick furryman like you know,
and good because if it was only Childley, I'd be
like come on, but right, I mean Ralph. Also, I'm
like that he definitely looks like a dream Daddy character. Yeah,
that was one point. He's thick. He's thick. So yeah,

(31:37):
So he's considered to be the first fighting game character
whose move set is centered on grappling. That's pretty cool. Um.
And he made his first appearance in Street Fighter two
the World Warrior Um. In the series, he's a professional
wrestler that fights to prove Russia's superiority over the nation's fighters.
Oh yeah, he had a lot of ussr That's that's

(31:57):
where he was fighting out of in there in the
Street Fighter two he was fighting out of out of
Soviet Russia. And then uh then that fell. Um, So,
I don't. I think they just say regular Russia now,
but that's that's where you would fly to to fight
him in the original Street Fighters too. Uh And he
eventually kind of as the story got more developed in

(32:18):
the game progress, he also got turned into one of
em Bison's kind of like lieutenants for the Shadowloo. Yeah,
and actually his name comes from professional wrestler Victor Zangiev. Well,
speaking of names coming from where, the next two people
we were going to talk about is Embison and bow Rong.
But for those of you who don't know, many people

(32:39):
know in Bison has seen in Bisons, but some people
might not know that em Bison actually was originally bow
Rong and bow Rog was originally Imbison because im Bison
stands for Mike Bison and if you look at bow
Rog you might see why they chose to call him
Mike Bison. And when the game had to come out

(33:00):
to America, they realized that, uh that that won't fly.
There's there's certain laws in place that will prevent you
from using the likeness of known celebrities and putting them
in the game. Uh So, when so they switched the
names when it came to America and Mike Bison was
now bow Rog and boot Rog was now in Bison.

(33:24):
I messed up the name mix up in Bison, Yeah,
but his character was Vega, and then I think Vega
was bow Rog and then bow Rocks, which the bow
Rog Mike Bison was. But so it was that even
bigger mix mix up, and I just looked that up,
so it wasn't just Bison. They also felt the name
Vega wasn't scary enough, so that's why they gave so

(33:49):
so they gave Vega to Vega, which was which they
felt was more like because they felt it was more
suitable for that Spanish cage fighter. And then Mike Bison
and they were like, all right, you gotta you gotta
get out of here. You gotta get out of here.
So the mic uh, So that's what happened. Sorry for

(34:09):
those who have been screaming or who have already tweeted
at us, we made a fatal mistake and we have
just corrected it in time. So we'll start with boot Rock.
Bout Rock is a disgrace boxer who also turned out
ends up being member of the Shadowoo as well, working
for M Bison and M Bison is the leader of

(34:32):
the Shadow Loop. Uh and he's a world dictator and
megalomaniac and it really um uses a lot of psycho powers.
That's his moves, like the psycho crusher and he and
it was it had a cool effect because I have
like a rainbow flame when he would use it. I
wanted to say, when you're going back and forth of
Boo rog is actually m Bison and and Bison is

(34:52):
actually I want to be Finkle is iron Horn, iron
Horn is Fink you know what? Cool? Little No, I'm
just saying that's what it reminded me of a little
a spinter action there. Um sorry, please continue. Oh yeah,
and that was me pretty much wrapping up. I mean, well,

(35:13):
I think we're gonna touch on E Bison as we
get into some of the lower stuff with the the
light touching on the movies and other stuff around it.
But yeah, Ebising is kind of the big bad in
the Street Fighter universe. Everyone's kind of ganging up to
take this dude down because he wants to take over
the world using his evil psycho energy and and thus

(35:35):
brings I don't know why he ended up recruiting batties
from all over the world because bow Rocks from America,
you got uh, you got you got Sagott from Thailand,
and then you got Vega from Spain. I'm like, you
can that's some crazy outsourcing. I don't want to be
under that dictatorship outsource and all of that work. Um,

(35:58):
but we can't talk about Street Fighter without talking about
its role in the sports. And we can't talk about
fighting game E sports without talking about EVO, which is
the Evolution Championship Series, which is basically not even over exaggerating,
the super Bowl of fighting games. All fighting games lead
to this, and there's so much buzzing around it because

(36:19):
they always have one game that is voted on by
the community that will be used in the Fighting Championship.
So it gets crazy and it has a dope beautiful history.
But we'll talk about all of that after this break

(36:43):
and we are back. And if you were telling these
good people about EVO, yes, yes, Evil. The Championship Series
is the super Bowl of games, like I said, and
it was founded by Tom Cannon, who is known for
his work on or uken dot Com, which was the
premiere probably still is the premier website for the fighting

(37:07):
game community. You would go there for the newest and
up to date strats on different characters and combos. When
I really got like that moment when I said I
really got in a Street Fighter, I was maining Cody. UM.
So in gaming, when there is a game that allows
you to choose between different characters, your main is the

(37:27):
person that you're the best with, or the person you're
training with, the person you use the most, so that's
usually your main. So, especially like a game like Street Fighter,
you'll have a main a game like League of Legends,
you'll usually have a main sometimes even just a main role. UM.
Cody was a character who actually comes from the Final

(37:48):
the Fatal Fury franchise, actually not Fatal Fury, uh Final
Fight franchise, UM, which was a side scroller beat him
up game, and he um Him, Haggard, Hugo, Poison Guy,
and Cody all ended up in Street Fighter. And I
also can't forget Uh Sodom and Rolento as well. So

(38:12):
Cody was super cool to me just because he would
always wear like this jail get up and he one
of his moves as he'll pick up a knife and
stab you with it, and I thought that was cool.
But when I was trying to learn and master this character.
Sure you can. Dot Com is where I went. I
went online, and that's where I learned about tier list
and how Cody was a low tier character. I would

(38:35):
probably find a new main. Yeah, And as much as
I bucked again, so I was like, I'm gonna get
good with Cody. I'm gonna sit here, I'm gonna practice
the move. I was just getting walloped online just because
he he was indeed a low tier character and I
wasn't good enough to carry him and be better with him,
you know. And that's where characters at well rounded characters

(38:56):
like Ru and other high tier characters will come in handy.
Is if you're just learning the game and you're trying
to get good with them, you're you're better off because
you know, the margin of error is going to be
a lot, a lot larger for you. Yeah. So the
EVO tournaments started as Battle by the Bay, that was
what they were called, which was a forty man Super
street Fighter to Turbo and Street Fighter Alpha two tournament

(39:20):
in and Sunnyvale, California, eventually moving to its recurring venue
in Las Vegas. The event changed its name to Evolution
Championship Series or EVO for short in two thousand two
and then this past year they had around ten thousand people.
And I think one thing I want to point out
that's cool about EVO that's different than most major e

(39:41):
sports tournament is it is an open entry. If you
got good enough today, next summer, I'm going to do it,
you can compete and become the champion of EVO. And
it doesn't work like that for other games. And other
games you have to find an organization. Your organization has
to be popular enough, get good enough, and work your
way up. Different I mean, there are cracks here and there,

(40:03):
like I think right now and Heroes are the Storm.
There's a team called the Leftovers, which you know, I
think they just got knocked out, but that was kind
of a rag tag team of like people who were
on so, I mean, the whole team itself didn't even
have a sponsor. So there are games that allow you
to do that. I believe the League of Legends they
have a league that allows you to work your way up.
But I think you're still not going to be in

(40:25):
the n A LCS. You you're not gonna be there yet,
but you know that one is has a closer kind
of like AM two pro route. So that's what's cool
about EVO. It really does feel like almost a Fighting
of eight. I want to say fighting game movie, but
I guess a boxing movie where it's like this kid,
you know, he has some telling and he goes down

(40:46):
to Las Vegas and you know, his coach was like, hey,
get in there, you know, grab the joystick and fighting
the game to an amitt. I don't know what accident was.
I think it was like kind of New York people
are going, right, that's what you all sound like. I'm sorry, Yeah,
you were born and raised in l a M. I
do want to point out that if you want to

(41:08):
get caught up more on the sports, we talked extensively
about it on our E Sports episode and it kind
of talked about the what if he is talking about
as far as being a professional player, the how young
a lot of these players are, a lot of the
controversies that that come around with the sports in general
and doping and like, we covered a ton of stuff.
So if you're if you want to look into that,

(41:29):
we have a great E Sports episode and that we
had it was with Malik Forte, who I bumped into
at Twitch Con and who also that's kind of where
he does a lot of shout casting and where he
used to do a lot of work in he he
actually would play some fighting games. But what's interesting is
the average age for fighting game tournaments is actually a

(41:49):
lot higher is for your typical like mobile And I
think it's because we've had it longer. And I feel like,
I don't know, I don't want to say it's because
as of like you know better you know, hand eye
coordination or anything like that. I just think is you
have like you know, I've played against like uncles who
have been playing street Fighters since back in the day,

(42:11):
and they can still do work. You know. Um, But
if we're going to touch on EVO and talk about
Street Fight, we're gonna have to talk about a very
special EVO moment which I feel like if you are
tapped in on video game memes and moments at any time,
then you've seen this clip or heard of this. But

(42:33):
it happened between two of shoot when I was in it,
they were still the best finding game players, justin Wong
and die Go Omahara, and what what happened in this moment.
I mean, I'm gonna definitely post the video with this

(42:53):
because you need to watch it, but you also need
me to explain what is going on here because it
is actually very specific to UM. It will be in
the footnotes, Producer Dan just uh drop that tizzy in there,
but it is very specific to Street Fighter three third Strike.

(43:14):
And the reason it's specific to it is because Street
Fighter UM three third Strike has a perry option where
if because in street Fire you can block, but you'll
take what is known as chip damage, and that will
be a little bit of damage that breaks through the block.
So if you have like a sliver of health and
you're blocking, you can still lose because you're gonna take

(43:35):
chip damage. But in Street Fighter three third Strike, if
you move your stick in the enemy's direction, you end
up pairing it and take no damage. So so you
you might see where this is going now. So in
this and by the way, at this point you know this, uh,

(43:56):
this is a rivalry between Justin wantet Digo, so there's
already that heat behind it. But what ends up happening
is um chun Ley does her super move, which I
think we didn't really touch on too much, but along
with their special attacks, they have super moves which are
superpowered version of the moves that does way more damage,
which will always break through in a chip usually will

(44:19):
win the match. But her super move is she does
multiple kicks. And Uh, basically what happened is um Diego
was playing as Kin and he was facing off against
Justin Wong who was playing as chun Lee, and Kin
had literally one blocked punch would have taken Kin out

(44:42):
and he was up against the ropes and everyone screamed
because the super animation begins for chun Ley, and everyone's
like it's over, but it wasn't because Diego parried each
in every one of those kicks, which in the foot No,
let's just go watch it. You'll see how quick it
is and how well you'd have to time that. And

(45:04):
I know those poems are sweaty mom spaghetti. In that situation, Uh,
it is like one of the top gaming moments of
all time. Uh. And that's kind of just really made
the solidified the Wong Diego beef. Uh. Yeah, that was
in a in two thousand four, actually all the way
back in two thousand four at Cow State Poly and

(45:27):
the beef was going on till about like two thousand,
two thousand seven, two eight we'll clip it, we'll tweet
the videos so that everyone can take a look at it.
But that's just street Fighter. And I mean we didn't
even really go down the laundry list of games because
there's just so many, because you know, you have street Fighter.
So Street Fighter two had Street Fire two, Turbo Super

(45:48):
street Fighters, Super street Fighter two Turbo street Super street
Fighter Arcade additions Super street Fighter Tournament Edition. And that's
kind of what I was mentoring mentioning earlier about Capcom's
if it ain't broke, don't fix it mentality is a
lot of these games got just like rebranded with new
costumes and characters at it. Like I think the Tournament
Edition all it did was add new costumes to the game.

(46:11):
But Street Fighter just didn't stop at a video game.
Street Fighter has blown off I wanted to say the page,
but I'd say blown out of the arcade cabinets. People
are aware of Street Fighter. As a matter of fact,
when people see any fighting game, they're just like, oh,
is that like street Fighter, which made sense because it
went ahead and it had like a live action movie,

(46:33):
which is one of those movies that are so bad
at Ninja Turtles and yeah, yeah, It is very much
of that time, and I mean it tells you it
came in a time before the internet because they messed
those characters up so bad and no one was able
to go online and be like what they were just

(46:55):
throwing throwing in characters like they had DJ in there,
who was the uh the Jamaican guy who does capawera.
Uh you know, I was like, out of all the
characters that were left out, DJ made it in. It's wild. Um,
but it's so fun because who was playing DJ. It was?
It was the same actor. Uh. I will say that.

(47:17):
It came out in and starring John claud Van Dam Yeah. Yeah,
miguel A Nunez Jr. I don't know. Kylie Minogue was
in it as Cammy. Oh yeah, oh yeah no. This
had a lot of it. I don't know if you
knew this in. The film also inspired an American produced
animated TV series Street Fighter, which lasted two seasons thirteen

(47:40):
episodes from Wow. Yeah that was great. So the main
character is so funny because the main character in this movie,
this is just such a Hollywood thing to do, and
they still messed that up. So the main character in
the movie was Guile, which Gyle is one the major

(48:01):
protagonists of the game, but ru is the vocal point
of the game. But for some reason, it focused on Guile,
who is the super American guy with this like just
the super mega flat top and he wears this like
green tank top and he has the American flag tattered
on him like just super dude, bro American and he
was played by John Claude. Then damn, it's like the

(48:27):
most American man with the thickest Russian accent. So, I mean,
what a metaphor have you seen. I love the fact
that some of their characters were like the stereotypical American
UM character. I don't know if you've watched any of
My Hair Academia with All Might. Yeah, I love All
Might because it was just their version of being like, yeah,

(48:48):
this is the most American, Like this is how Americans look,
and this is how they're superheroes look. It's basically just yeah,
Captain America. UM. I think a funny I guess not funny,
but a fun fun fact about the movie is it
was one of ral Julia's last movies, and they gave

(49:09):
him a dedication at the end of Street Fighter, And
I always was like, maybe not this is the one
that can be his like send off movie, good nug
because he has a great acting career. Um, but as
much smack as I want to talk. The budget was
thirty five million and they made nine million, four hundred

(49:29):
and twenty three thousand and five in the box office.
It is a really beloved game, so I can imagine.
And like you said, it was before the internet had
really taken off, so people aren't gonna you know, you
can't see the reviews necessarily, like from everyone talking about
on social media, social media taking it down. It was
before we were burned too, so we weren't burned as much.

(49:52):
So we we were hopeful, you know we I don't
think we had Super Mario yet. Let me see, I
enjoyed Super Mario and I will always fight for Super Mario.
Everything not fully awake. Everything that makes the Super super
Mario bad good is the same thing that makes the
Street Fired movies bad good. It's like it's so far

(50:14):
from the source material that it's like what is even happening?
So it were there other Street Fighter movies. There were
tons of animated ones, so actually no h just to
correct myself, super Mario Bros. Came out before Street Far
So we've just been burned. That's all right, Street's promising. Yeah,

(50:39):
so there were tons of animated street fights. When did
Mortal Kombat come out? Oh my gosh, yeah, we did
have a string. Yeah, what is you know? All of
these I I watched with an air of nostalgia. I
was like five and thought it was the coolest thing.
So they came out a year apart from each other.
Mortal Kombat was August eighteen, Super Mario Brothers and uh

(51:05):
the Street Fighter Movie was They were really capitalizing video games. Well,
I feel like this was a boom in video games
at the time. Like we're talking about, right, which of
these movies came out? The SCS was released in Uh,

(51:28):
so we just released the nes It's probably exploding off
the shelves by so yeah, of course they're like, let's
make some video game movies. It all kind of adds
up when you look back. I didn't know this, but
there was another street fighter film that came out in
two thousand nine, the Legend of Chun Lee Dan. I

(51:50):
don't talk about that one. That one was the dragon
Ball Evolution of Street Fighter movies. It was so horribly bad.
I had an X who forced me to watch it,
so she she said, so I can know the pain
of how bad it was, and she was correct. I
never forgave her for making me sit through that movie,

(52:11):
because you would think that after Street Fighter people would realize, Okay,
we got it wrong, but we're definitely going to get
it right this time. But go look up, Um, you've
seen pictures of em Bison, right, Danny, don't look up
Legion of chun Lee and Bison and just take a
look at what that person looks like. Wait, what do
you mean the em Bison from the Legend of chun Lee.

(52:35):
Just look at that guy. Look a look, that's Neil
p mcdonoho. Yeah, he's in a bunch of stuff. Oh yeah, no, no,
I'm but do you see his face? Does he look
anything like a yeah you mean in the film? Yeah,
the pictures you're looking at her basically what he looks
like in the film. He just the whitest in bison. Yeah,

(52:58):
but m Bison is in the in a lot of iterations.
He's technically tied. And I will say because he was
originally supposed to be from Thailand, but when they switched
up the in Bison, he was so that's why he's
always been darker skinned, because he's because he is tie.
And I was going to say in some of the
iterations of him, he because they make him come from

(53:21):
like this fictional place. Um, but he originally was from Thailand.
That's why he had darker skin. Um. And he was like,
uh so, so I that's that's one of those push
up my glasses uh um actually moments, whereas like I
know he um, but yeah, because they in the movie, sorry,

(53:44):
in both the movies. Uh he was so in movie
his birthplace was supposed to be United Kingdom and in
the the Legend of Chunley it was Ireland. But it
also had a lot of animation. Like we said that,
it had an animated TV series. The first animation actually

(54:04):
based on the Street Fighter franchise was an unofficial animation
that was released in South Korea two and that was
just simply titled street Fighter. And it also was a
comics series manga that was super popular. Um. Street Fighter
to manga was one of the few Street Fighter manga
titles to be translated into English. Um. Yeah, so there

(54:28):
there's a lot of different There was also, like I said,
the Street Fighter comic book that was from Malibu Comics
and that was launched in nine, but Capcom did not
like that adaptation and the series was canceled after only
three issues. Interesting. Um, you also had street Fighter characters
appear in the Archie Comics published sonic the Hedgehog MegaMan

(54:50):
crossover event World's Unite that was the name of it,
which also involved other characters from Sega and Capcom Games.
And then there was another crossover. I think I DW
Publishing had a street Fighter G I Joe crossover. Wow.
Another episode we did iffy. Yeah, oh, but you know

(55:12):
if we wanted to happ in a one more episode.
Let's talk about when actor and filmmaker Showy On co
directed Owen Trevor's two thousand ten live action short street
Fighter Legacy, which was starring John fuez Ryu and Christian
Howard as Kin who co wrote it with Ansa, and
the film blew up online because it was basically it's
a fan film. They it was a fan It blew

(55:33):
up and it was so big that Capcom's vice president
of Strategic Planning and Business Development uh confirmed that there
would be more street Fighter films in development. That's that's
that's how much hype. It is when the big dogs
are like, look, we're gonna have to keep this going.
A lot of those fan films have launched stuff like
that before. Yeah, because that ended up turned into Street

(55:54):
Fighters Assassin's Fist, which was released on Mashinima, and that
was just yeah. And then a second season titled street
Fighter World war was announced for two thousand seventeen released date,
but uh in two thousand eighteen, Entertainment One and Mark
Gordon closed the deal to develop, produce, and finance a
small screen adaptation of Street Fighter with the same creative

(56:16):
team behind the Street Fighter Assassin's Fifth So also street
Fighter web mini series titled street Fighter Resurrection aired on
Mishinima and Go ninety in March. Is Go nineties still
a thing? Our friends still has died officially? Oh yeah
it did back in July. Yeah, I had. That was

(56:38):
an abrupt dealing. I've had people who literally, we're writing
for a Go nineties show. Um went home and got
a call like, don't come in tomorrow. That's how quick
it was. Then they made Resurrection on Mishinima, and I
think that's why because World Warrior was announced, but it

(56:59):
wasn't necessarily released, so I think they put that on
pause to work on this next show that was just announced.
So I'm excited to see what they did, because they
did good work. It was it actually looked very good
for you know. I feel like at this point it's
hard to say the term very good for a fan
film because so many fan films have been coming out

(57:20):
with such high quality that I think the Barneys is
just officially raised. It's not very good for a fan film.
That's just the new standard. I did want to say
so the latest edition street Fighter five Arcade Edition has
been nominated for E Sports Game of the Year by
Golden Joysticks Awards UM and that I believe they're announcing

(57:41):
on November. But let me drop some drama. Sometimes people
get on our heads because we don't talk about the
drama that happened. Tree Fire five when it dropped did
have some drama because it was debatably but kind of
on paper really uh in complete. They were trying to
rush the game's completion because it was happening to be

(58:04):
released right next to EVO, and so they wanted the
game to be available so that people can use in
the tournament. But what that led to was basically the
release of a incomplete game. Like they were like, you
play the game, you buy the game. Now you get
some of the characters, and then we're going to drop
the rest of the characters later. And so that was
like a whole hubbub that that kind of start with

(58:27):
that came with Street Fighter five. You gave them some tea.
That's the t, that's the t you wanted if people
wanted to be Yeah, So when five came out, there
was this is I'm just reading an article just to
give you a taste of the time. The headline is
gamers warn PC players not to buy incomplete street Fighter five.
Absolutely awful would be an understatement when it comes to

(58:50):
the PC version of Street Fighter five. When I first
heard the PC crowd was piste over servers being down
since launched. I'm thinking, okay, so we're writing in first person,
typical PC master Race, always complaining. Then I found out
there's no story mode and many other key components that
have been stables in the series. So that's that was
the drums that happened, and they told everyone to not

(59:15):
buy it on piece. I didn't know a drop three
years ago. Why is it nominated for Awards because they
think they just announced the Arcade edition, which oh sorry, sorry, yeah,
Arcade edition. Yeah. Yeah, Remember how I said if it
ain't broke, don't fix it. Yeah, So, let us know
your favorite Street Fighter characters and your earliest memories or

(59:36):
if you're still playing it or any of the iterations
of it. Yeah, and let me know who you mean. Yeah,
let me know who. You may tweet that out of us. Um.
But yeah, now that's that's pretty much. You know. I
think we really tackled it. Say, and if you've read
some of the manga's I really would like to jump
into it. I know Udon did a run uh that

(59:57):
that I had like a free comic book Davi and
four that seemed pretty tight. Um. But if you have
a favorite Street Fighter comic or anything, just yeah, tweet
at us. Let us know. There's gonna be this is
a listener exclusive. I haven't a fully alerted everyone, but
there's gonna be a huge change um on the discord. Uh,

(01:00:20):
because I know a lot of you've been asking for
the discord and my current discord situation. This is a
quick sideboard that Danny has to sit through. But the
current discord I've combined it with my friend lois' is
and we're in the brotherhood. But uh, it's starting mid November.
We're gonna go back to my original Salt Squad discord

(01:00:41):
and we will have a full Nerdificent tab with special Nerdificent,
multiple Nerdificent um uh different chat rooms that because with
my own discord, I'll have more freedom to give you
more space to talk, so we'll have weekly episode discussions,
will have specific you know, basicly basic chat rooms for
everything you may need that will make it easier to

(01:01:03):
navigate and so you can say what you want, where
you want, when you want, and how you want on
the discord. It's hard to do it when you're sharing
a discord because you're not trying to have too many
tabs in This discord in itself has a billion tabs,
so prepare for that. Buckle up. It'll be fun. Actually
you won't probably notice the thing. But also because I
have my own discord and it's partnered, it literally is

(01:01:24):
just going to be a a simple link that's easy
to follow instead of me having to tweet one out.
So I'll give y'all ahead start. It's not gonna go
live until mid November, but for those of you froth
and at the mouth and who just wants to be
there ready when it comes out. Just know that the

(01:01:44):
Discord is Discord dot gg forward slash Salt Squad. Once again,
Discord dot gg forward slash Salt Squad. Be there and
be happy to chat me and Nappy Nappy is Danny.
It's me all right. I guess this is where we
drop our socials and tell people where to find us.

(01:02:06):
What you got any shows coming up? This past weekend,
I did the I moderated the Ralph Breaks Internet Press junket,
and yesterday if he went to the premiere with me,
I'm just catch me and Ralph Breaks the Internet dropping
a November one. I have a cameo in it, playing myself.

(01:02:28):
I played Danny Fernandez big baller move, which then brings
me into the Ralph universe, because if Danny exists, then
so do I. Um so, anyways, follow me at miss
Danny Fernandez all right and me if you wy the way,
I f y n w A d I w E
on Twitter and Instagram, and if d's on Twitch, I

(01:02:49):
f d e e z. There are some of the
nerd fam hit me up, tell them about I don't.
I don't know how to find your twitch. I guess
I gotta tell you you all the time. I talk
about it all the time, but thank you for being interested.
Come in. At this point, the rebrand is done. I
have a fresh new look. Shout out to Roll Coom,
who will be on our Vanity uh Figures episode uh

(01:03:12):
talking and you will hear the man behind the new
clean look to everything I have on my stream. Longtime friend.
He also wraps uh, but I just wanted to shout
him out. And you know, just check my socials for
all shows because shows literally pop up out of nowhere
on the day. So um as always stayed near to y'all.

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