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March 5, 2019 70 mins

Are you ready to save the Avengers? Answer your pager, it’s time to talk about Captain Marvel! This week Ify is out on Birthday duty and Dani is joined by the owner of the Perky Nerd Comic Book shop, Tiffany Melius, to talk about her favorite 90’s heroine. From Carol Danvers’ love of Star Wars to her many places in the multiverse of Marvel, consider this a primer to the soon to premier Captain Marvel film - all on this week’s Nerdificent!

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcome to another edition of Nerdificent. I
am one half of your host, Danny Fernandez, and the
other half is gone tonight because it is his birthday,
or at least it'll be his birthday. No, it'll be
his past birthday. I can't do time. Whenever you listen
to this, it will be a week from his birthday. Um,
but hopefully everyone gave if he a lot of love.

(00:31):
He did post a huge thirst trap. If you didn't
see it, it is still probably up on all of
his social media pages. You can't miss it. It literally
kept popping up into my timeline multiple times. But um,
here at Nerdificent, we are pro thirst trap a thousand percent.
I am joined today by the owner of the Perky

(00:53):
Nerd Comic book shop, a place that I love, a
place that I love to go to shop at, a
place that has arch shows that really is just such
a huge part of the community that if he and
I actually we got to film a piece that was
um that was funded by Marvel there at the Perky
Nerd um with a lot of actors and writers of color,

(01:15):
and that is Tiffany Melius. Hi Did I say that right? Yes? Okay,
perfect Melius. Sometimes I don't even say right you are
you are covered head to toe and Captain Marvel because
we're talking about Captain Marvel. I love all this stuff
that you have and the comic books that you brought.
I was like, should I bring a reference? I don't know?

(01:36):
You know? Do you know Hector Navarro? I feel like
you do. You probably have met him. He's at d
C Daily and I think he's done stuff over at
the Perky Nerd. Um. But he will bring his comics too,
and he is known as like a walking encyclopedia of knowledge,
so he doesn't technically ever look have to like actually
look at him. But when he wants to really prove

(01:56):
a point, he knows exactly in his comics where that is. Yeah, So, um,
what what I want to talk about the Perky Nerd? Like?
How did you? Is this the first comic book shop
that you've opened? Yes? I like, how maybe there's more?
I wish there was? Um, yeah, this is the first
one ever of its kind. The Perky Nerd actually the

(02:20):
name itself. We wanted to open up a cat cafe.
Which is funny because all comic book characters I seem
to pick out have a cat yeah. So, uh, but
having cats and and the whole thing was too much
money up front. It's a huge investment. So we decided

(02:40):
to do a comic bookshop that sells cold brew coffee
and and then does like art shows. To get the community.
We did stand up Um, yes, yeah, you have stand
up comedy shows there. Well, we used to. Um, I'd
love to do more, I know, meltdown since they've gone
away then, I don't know where all those people went.

(03:01):
But we kind of took on a lot more gaming
in the last year. I don't know if you're familiar
with Legion yet. Uh. Star Wars like miniatures game, and
it came out last year and it kind of took
over our whole shop. So uh, that's we've and then
key Forged by the Magic Guys that's taken over, and

(03:22):
so we're kind of exploring the new gaming realm. Yeah,
I feel like I mean, I don't know a lot
of other and I should, but I will look this up.
But a lot of other female run comic bookshops in
the city. I mean, what was that like to even
to like this? Has this been a dream of yours? Like,
how do you even go about doing that? Like, how
do you go about being like, I'm going to open

(03:44):
up a comic bookshop. I think you just do it
and don't think about it. For for us, it kind
of was like December, we went to a comic bookshop
by Chicago, Wisconsin, AIA. It was a woman owned one,
and I was like, oh, that's so cool, Like it
stuck out to me as something that I was I

(04:05):
was like, wow, women canon a comic bookshop. And then
I looked it up and there's another girl in Philadelphia
that has a coffee comic bookshop and she has actually
been on the cover of a Marvel comic recently. Yeah,
and then there's another one in Seattle, I think, um,
and there's just there's a handful of them all over

(04:27):
the US. Um. But they're not that many. And I
want to say, because when we did first open, a
lot of people were like, that can't be the like
the first women owned I And I'm not the first
woman owned comic bookshop. But there is less than like
ten of them, and I think people like challenge that
because they're like, I've seen women in comic bookshops. I'm like,

(04:48):
correction owned by a woman, not just people working in
the other women. Um, but like actually owned by a
woman operating business. Yeah. So and you employ a lot
of women there. I know, I see them all the time. Yeah,
we have a lot of women. We have the Perky
Bitches Comic book Club. Yeah, and you had a you

(05:08):
had like a remember maybe it was just during Halloween,
but I remember you had like a Witches. Yeah. We
do the Witches Brunch. A lot of women like art
shows and stuff like that. We had the marveloust Ladies
that brunch. It was like a mash up Marvel Ladies
as Holly go lightly. Um. That was just a personal

(05:29):
thing I wanted to do because I I like like
breakfast at Tiffany's the concept and like Tiffany's for obvious reasons. Yeah,
you had a Breakfast at Tiffany I actually own it,
and so does Danielle Radford, who um was in our
Marvel Our Black Panther Marvel piece and she was on
our Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode. But I bought you
have a you carried a print. It was this gorgeous

(05:52):
print of Surery in the Breakfast at Tiffany's. Like she
looks like Audrey Hepburn and she has a little cat
with her um and its Surey from black Panthers. So
I have that framed in my living room. Oh nice, Yeah, yeah,
I've gotten several pieces of art there. You have. You
really are an open um place where artists can apply

(06:12):
to have their work shown. Like you have tons of
different independent artists on your walls. You have tons of print.
I think it's like the best gift. I love going
there and giving it as a gift to people because
you know, you can get like a print for like
ten or fifteen bucks and it's like super cool to
have like a gorgeous wonder Woman or the Flash um,
and they'll have mashups. What'll be like the Simpsons in
the Flash or something like that. So yeah, that's my

(06:34):
favorite part about the art shows is seeing what people
are going to do with the theme that we put
out there. Um. I get a lot of artists that
just approached and say, how can I get in the gallery? Well,
you can start up by being in the art shows,
which are always themed. I don't just do like this
is an art show. Um. So uh. On March sewond

(06:56):
is when our Captain Marvel Art show will be up
in the gallery and it will be up the whole
month of March. Yes, so if you are in because
the Perky Nerd is in Burbank um, so if you
are in the l A area, please check it out
and you can check out there all of their Captain
Marvel princes that they will have up in original artes. Yeah. Amazing.
So speaking of Captain Marvel, when I asked, I think

(07:19):
I asked on Facebook, um if there were anyone that
were experts in Captain Marvel. Remember Eric Barnes, who I
believe was on our Teenage Mutant and Turtle episode immediately
tagged you and I was like, oh, yes, she would
be perfect. I was like, yes, I remember, But how
did you get into Captain Marvel? So I stumbled upon
her in two thousand and six, I think she it

(07:41):
was like a fifty two book or a fifty book
run of Ms. Marvel. Carol Danver's in her black leotard.
Um and my husband was just looking for some amazing
spider man to fill in his holes. And I was like,
oh good, we're where are we because we were just

(08:02):
doing that thing where you just map out a bunch
of comic bookshops and just go um. And he was
like you should choose one, probably like one of those
things like you should get into nerdy things. And I
was like, okay, uh And I saw this like you know,
badass Lady on the front of a cover, and I

(08:22):
got it. And then I got all the other issues
and then I became really enthralled into this character and
I kept reading. And then he gave me all of
the Miss Marvel from the seventies, the comic books he
found like a whole collection of them on eBay and
that I think that was like my birthday present or something.
Do you still have those? Yeah? I have. I have

(08:43):
my long boxes of all all my singles of Captain Marvel,
Miss Marvel, the seventies Miss Marvel. Um. And then it
just kept going into like Black Widow and looking for
all of those things. Um. But yeah, I love Carol Danvers.
She I just I love She's so flawed. Um. And

(09:09):
I came to l A for acting. So in two
thousand and six, I was, you know, fresh here and
I was like, we need to make a movie and
I want to be her. You were already on the band. Yeah,
you you were pitching this back in oh six. You know,
we're just now getting it in right, and that's so crazy.

(09:30):
I feel like she hasn't really been on the bigger radar,
like obviously for Marvel nerds and people that you know
have been following her, she has been, but I don't
think she's really been on the radar until the last
like five ish years. I would say I've noticed more. Um,
and definitely the last two years, like when they announced
that she was getting her own film, yes, oh yeah,
because they announced like a long time ago. I feel like,

(09:53):
and now it's finally here. I feel like they know
a lot of stuff, you know, like by the time
we hear stuf Off, they've already gone into production. They
might even be done with production sometimes by the time
that it gets out into the Publicum. But Marvel is
definitely already capped out, like mapped out exactly what they
were gonna do. Um. I'm really excited. I think it's

(10:15):
crazy how close Because she comes out so Captain Marvel
drops march An haste week Yeah, it'll be this weekend,
drops this weekend, and Infinity War comes out in a role,
so I really don't get a lot of time. And
in between that, I believe Shazam I might be which
is interesting, which is interesting because for people that don't know,

(10:39):
Shazam and Captain Marvel are kind of related. Um, do
you do you want to explain that to people of
how that happened the Captain Marvel they're originally from? Like,
because I get a lot of people in the shop
that are like, did you know that Kept Marvel is

(11:00):
really from d C? No, you are you telling me that?
You a comic bookshop owner get people that challenge you
about your knowledge. I mean it happens all the time,
and I just I mean my personality is just you're
very friendly. I'm just like, oh, yeah, that's really cool. Huh.

(11:23):
You are much kinder than I am, Tiffany, You're very
You're very friendly. Yes, you're very which is great because
you have a business. And so I guess if you
if you said what you really wanted to to everybody,
I wouldn't have any customers. I mean I would still go,
I would still go. But Okay, yes, Kittie, I'm sorry,

(11:44):
I just I want yes, of course, you owning a
comic bookshop get challenged about your knowledge of comics. But yes, um,
so yes, she'sam Sasam. Yeah. So originally the character she'sam
that we know that's going to be in the movie.
Um is not being called Captain Marvel because Captain Marvel
is Captain Marvel. Um. But they did own that back,

(12:07):
you know first, and then there was like a whole
lawsuit and now they have to make a captain like
Marvel has to make a Captain Marvel us that whatever
you call it monarch or whatever every two years, once
every two something, otherwise they'll lose it. It's kind of

(12:28):
it's like anything else, kind of like with like ex trademark,
you know, stuff like that, they have to use it.
Otherwise it just drops off and it's over and it's
up for grabs for uh people to use it. Yeah.
I wanted to say, shazam is so Billy Batson uh
so Uh, it's essentially the word that he says when

(12:50):
he's transforming. He says shazam, and so we will see that, yeah,
in the film that's coming out. But that's essentially what
they ended up just doing is they were like, oh,
let's just take this word and we'll just make it
a the the dude, the character. Um. But I'm really
curious to if they call him Captain Marvel in the movie.
There's no you think that they're going to do that.

(13:10):
I don't know, but like the people are really against
like they're like, Shazam is not his name, Shazam is
the word that changes him into Captain Marvel. Gosh, those
people don't sound fun. Um, let's let's talk officially what
Captain Marvel. So. Captain Marvel is um the name of

(13:33):
several fictional superheroes appearing in Marvel comics. Like you said,
it was following a trial in which DC Comics sued
Fawcett Comics for a breach of copyright, claiming Faucets Captain
Marvel was too similar to Superman. The latter stop publishing
Captain Marvel, and in the late sixties, Marvel gained the
trademark Captain Marvel, which makes sense that it would go
to them with their with their first series, And what

(13:55):
Tiffany was saying is that to retain their trademark, Marvel
has to publish a Captain Marvel title at least once
every two years, leading to her ongoing series limited series
in one shots, essentially in order to hang on to that.
But originally the name was Marvel and that character was

(14:16):
created by Stanley and Gene Colin and first appeared in
Marvel Superheroes number twelve in December of nineteen sixty seven.
So essentially, the character was an alien military officer, Captain
Marvel of the Cree Imperial Militia, which is like an
alien army, who was then sent to observe the planet Earth.

(14:38):
I love this because this is also what happens with
Sayings and dragon Ball always have to relate it back
to Darn, but that's essentially Sayings um Goku was like
sent to Earth to take over, but then ended up
helping us. So Captain Marvel eventually also allies himself with Earth.
The Cree Empire brands him as a trader, and then
that leads to lots of fighting, lots of fighting. Have

(15:00):
you read the Margaret Stole the Latest The Life of
Um Captain Marvel? Oh, because we just read it in
the Perky Bitches, uh. And I'm really curious to see
how much of it is going to be in the
movie because the Kelly sud Conic run is the one

(15:21):
that they're supposed to be taking from Um. But when
you were just saying that about Marvel coming to Earth
in that one, the Margaret Stole book, her mom comes
to Earth from the Creed. Yeah, and they made a
whole new storyline. Does she have a baby with a human? Yeah?

(15:46):
And so it's funny because I love that. I was
very into that. I did the map in my head
and it was so much like Superman to me. I
kept being this is really like Superman to point where
her name is Mary l and Carol, that's so fast. Wait, okay,

(16:08):
so that's when the latest thing that just came out
before the one that just like started running, that's in
it like it's second issue now. Um it came out
because people were saying that they wanted to correct her origins. Um.
Which if you were a brand new reader and you

(16:30):
had just picked that up, you might be interested in it.
But I do think it's very Superman storyline. Um. Which Now,
now if that was the original storyline with Marvel the guy,
it is, because I reading it, I was like, this
is like Superman. So it's kind of funny that they

(16:55):
would do that again now with Carol in a storyline
it is. I mean I could see originally why they
sued them, but now that they can't do anything, I
guess they're like, well, we're just going to go back,
and I mean, I know a lot of different franchises
that have done that, and sometimes people are really interesting
when you run across Puris, like they're really fascinated. I

(17:18):
like Wonder Woman's origin story. I don't like when people
mess around with her origin story, which has happened because
she originally wasn't like there's somewhere her father is, you know,
where she was folded from Clay and then other ones
where it was like, oh no, her mom was like
impregnated by Zeus um. But it was like through the

(17:41):
power of Zeus or whatever that she was able to
make this Clay. But like you know, in the original
nineteen forties run, she came from Clay. Yeah, so I'm
sure I might get I might get someone correcting me,
but I have that original run at home, so at
least what I can remember is that she didn't need Well.
My least favorite is when her Paolita and whose Zeus

(18:04):
is wife? Is it Athena and uh, I'm trying to remember,
but anyways, it was basically them fighting. It was as
a Rillo's Brian as a Rillo's Run. I think that
was a New fifty two um with Wonder woman, and
I have a computer right in front of me. I'm like,
I should just google. But essentially they were fighting over Zeus.
I don't know if yeah so, and I was like,

(18:25):
oh no, there's two women fighting over a man. Why
does this need to happen? Um? Why didn't no just
go back to her other origin? Yeah? So moving on,
She's had several incarnations And the one that you came
onto in two thousand and six, you said she you
knew her as Miss Marvel, Miss Marvel. Yeah, she back

(18:47):
in two thousand and six was in the black leotard. Uh.
And that that whole run is the run that I made. Well,
I didn't make them. They willingly read it, uh like
because now they're repackaging everything to be the ms Marvel
Years of Captain Marvel. And there's like three volumes that

(19:08):
we have in the shop. Um and you can see,
like you know, because she was the leader of the Avengers,
she had a lot of alcohol issues. Um. She was
like in Civil War. UM. So she's like popped up
a lot um. And that's where I got into her.
I personally really love it, um because you know, when

(19:31):
you first get into something, you're just like, I love this.
I love it the way it is, yes, but then
it changes and you it's like, no, no, why did
they do that? But someone else could pick up that
new thing, not knowing anything previously and be like this
is amazing see the old stuff, and be like why

(19:52):
why would they do that to her? So I'm coming
from like the black leotard loving days. Uh. And then she,
you know, got redone in two thousand and twelve as
Captain Marvel Carol Danver's everyone knows, right, okay because before that, oh,

(20:13):
it's like the seventh on the list of carrying the
Captain Marvel. Yeah. Title, So let's go through this list.
So the next one up after we have Marvel is
Monica is at rambo Um and that was the second
Captain Marvel was created by writer Roger Stern and artist
John Ramda Jr. She first appeared in The Amazing Spider
Man Annual number sixteen and nineteen eighty two. So here,

(20:37):
I am just thinking that she's been around, you know, recently.
I haven't read any Captain Marvel comics. I'm going to
get on it. I read my my friend Sam Magg's
actually wrote a book which I'll have to show you yeah, probably. Yeah,
We're going to do a book signing with her. So great. Well,
but um so it does have info about Captain Marvel,
and it has info about all the women of Marvel

(20:59):
in it. Uh And so that was when I was
reading that, it made me want and of course this
Brie Larson film has made me want to check it out.
But I feel behind because we did. We did a
Harley Quinn episode with Tara Strong, and when I was
researching for that, I ran across and Harley Quinn. I'm
very you know, I grew up watching Batman, the animated series,

(21:20):
so I'm aware of her um but I ran across
mad love that. Everyone was saying, like, you have to
read this. It's like such an in depth look at
her um in her relationship with the Joker and you know,
her vulnerability and like kind of her mindset. So I
bought it and I'm like, Okay, I need to do

(21:40):
this first, then I'll get into my Captain Marvel comics
have so many things that I'm behind on. Um Okay. So,
Monica Rambo was a police lieutenant from New Orleans who
possesses the power to transform herself into any form of energy.
Her powers were briefly altered so that she cannot transform
to energy but instead can generate a personal worsfield. Really

(22:01):
interesting that they made her a police officer. This was
something and a couple of other episodes that we have
also talked about um during this time, like this era
where it was very lethal weapon he like, you know,
those like Cop Buddy Cop or like the cop films
were really popular. Yeah, so it's really because they also

(22:21):
did that we talked about in our Black Panther episode.
They did it with Techala or at least with Black Panther.
I forgot his name at the time, but they made
him until a police officer think in the nineties. Huh. Yeah.
And so what's really cool about that is that in
and I'm trying to stay away from the trailers kind
of after I've seen like the first initial ones, but

(22:43):
if you stop it, you know, the wonderful world of
DVR uh and people on the internet. Then they put
it up that Monica and her in her airplane it
says Photon on the side. So that's a total like
nice little easter, a call out her being Photon in
the comics. Oh yeah, I wouldn't, which is pretty rodin

(23:06):
I feel like I'm going to need to take a
box of tissues to the movie because I'm just gonna
be like, oh my god, that's that's how I was
with One Woman. Yeah, Wonder Woman's um No Man's Land
scene got me every time, I know where every time
I just wanted to And also I think like it

(23:28):
was the music, It was so much about it, but
just seeing her and kind of like her inability to
understand why we're cowards, you know, she just she saw
these you know, she saw these people dying and was like,
I love that line. That's like what you do, what
I do is not up to you. And Captain Marvel's

(23:49):
is something similar. I feel in her trailer often, I'm
gonna look at it, you know, I'm going to look
it up. I'm gonna look it up right now because
we're going to take a break and we are back
still joined by Tiffany, the owner of the Perky nerd. Yeah,

(24:09):
we were talking about that trailer. My favorite part of
the trail of the Captain Marvel trailers when she punches
out that old lady yeah, um also can you because
I kind of I kind of like went over cree
but they're essentially just an alien, right, is there anything
special I guess about them? Oh gosh, yeah, so the Cree,

(24:35):
which I kind of went over, but her alien species race.
They've also been seen in Gardens of the Galaxy and
in the movies and Guardians of the Galaxy, and they
will be in Captain Marvel. So they also been seen
in the Agents of Shield. So that's cool. I know
people were really excited when they popped up in it.

(24:56):
But okay, so the other the other Captain Marvel's for
all of you Captain Marvel heads. So there's Jennie Vel,
which was the third Captain Marvel who first appeared in
Silver Surfer Annual number six using the code name of Legacy.
So that character is genetically engineered son, So it's still

(25:16):
a dude back then of Marvel and his lover um
created from the late Marvel's cell samples and artificially aged
to physical, if not emotional maturity. That's really fascinating. That's
aged two emotional maturity. That is really no. I just

(25:36):
find that really what does that mean? Um? It makes
me think of Shazam though, because oh yeah, okay, so
like no, but I know, I'm just like, so are
they like numb to the world, because I guess that
is a superpower, like not falling in love as a
super power. I mean, if you look at like what

(25:58):
Batman always considers his weakness, this is like, you know,
his love interry. I mean all superheroes, I think fine,
Daredevil does as well. UM feel like his love interests.
He can't have them because we'll just get hurt. So listeners,
tell me what you think. Emotional maturity UM means that's

(26:18):
really fascinating. Uh So, then we have Phi Lavel, which
is the fourth Captain Marvel is Phi Lavel. Also, I'm
sorry if we're passing over your favorite. Captain Marvel definitely
tweeted us and let us know why they're your favorite
or when you first got into Captain Marvel um. So
phi Level is Jennie Fell's younger sister. She was created
by Peter David and Paul as a Setta and Captain

(26:40):
Marvel volume number five, number sixteen, January two thousand and four.
So Phila is created when Jennie, who was an only child,
recreates the universe and in doing so creates various an
anomalies which result in his mother being restored to life
and his sister coming into existence. She's la seen romancing

(27:01):
Moon Dragon um Phi. Lavel appears in the Annihilation Event,
fighting alongside Nova's United Front in an effort to stop
the destructive armies of a nihilis Um. It's so much
it is. It is kind of interesting all of these
and we're almost getting to what I guess I would
consider but the most the most popular Captain Marvel Um

(27:26):
Carol Danvers, which I mean just she is the most
probably because she's getting her film right. She's the most
popular because I mean, basically she had she was tied
to Marvel. How she got her powers originally was because
she was with him and the psych Magnatron thing went

(27:47):
off and he covered her. He was dying of cancer.
He covered her and to keep her from the blast,
but she ended up absorbing all of the the powers
from him um. And it's described in actually this I

(28:08):
refreshed my memory last night by reading the two thousand
twelve Kelly Sue run Um where it talks about her
wanting to like because this is basically about her struggle
to call herself Captain Marvel because she was Miss Marvel,
and then also to wear kind of his Colors. Okay,

(28:29):
so he so he was essentially like Captain Marvel or
Captain Marvel. She was Miss Marvel. Yeah, she was just
Carol Danvers. Yeah, and then she was she was she
took on the mantle. She was just a human with
Kay and then she was in this blast with him
and she got powers from it. So is that gonna

(28:49):
be Breeze movie? So she's a human? She is? Okay,
So you know, I don't. I don't know because then
in the Margaret Stole one that just happened that I
said was so much like Superman to me is that
she her mom ends up that her mom is an alien,
So she's half and half. So but to me, uh,

(29:15):
and I'm open to many things. Uh. To me, what
makes her so awesome is that she is a human.
She's only a human, and she absorbs these powers from
that Psycho Magnatron incident, and she talks about it a
lot like the incident um and she gets all of
these powers from it, and so she becomes like superhuman,

(29:37):
but she is human in the movie. It looks like
to me, she they well, they say in the trailer
that she got infused with alien blood to save her life.
Or something. So I don't know if some um and
there's a lot of like rumors about that whole scene
anyways that they show in the trailer that maybe they're

(29:58):
trying to throw us off and that is not what
is the storyline. Who knows, well know next week or
well we'll know like now, um, but she gets hurt
or something and then they infused her with the alien
blood and that's how she becomes what she is in
the movie. I guess, yeah, not entirely. I know that
there's a lot of sites that have broken down every

(30:20):
single frame of that trailer. But I do know there's
a lot of people that kind of don't want to
watch the trailers anymore because they want to be surprised. Yeah,
I don't. I don't want to watch them anymore because
there's just too much stuff and then you're like, oh,
that's going to happen. I wanted to be all fresh
and brand new and like yeah. So what I'm saying
is it's okay people if if Captain some Captain Marvel

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fans haven't watched the trailers, I think it's I know
Star Wars. There were some specific Star Wars fans that
I knew that like refused to watch the trailers, like
when Force Awakens was coming out, they just wanted to
be surprised, and I'm sure they were. Uh so yeah,
it's okay. Um, it's okay to to skip past that.

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But also I feel like a big thing in like
social media and the Internet age is that you can't
get mad if you see something, because you should shut
it down if you don't want to see stuff or
get stuff spoiled. Uh. Like what I'm doing is I'm
just actively being like, oh no, you know. Uh, And

(31:23):
like any I've seen people have already got to see
the movie, and so I just have to scroll. I
don't want to see mute them. Yeah, you know, it's
get you know, mute Captain Marvel, like they are embargoing.
No you can, but like the phrase, also those people
are embargoed, I think because I have an embargo. I'm

(31:44):
at the So when this drops, I will have been
at the premiere yesterday, uh Monday, I'm going to the
Captain Marvel premiere. Yeah, I'm really excited. And y'all I
have this blue dress. I have this. I have this
it looks like her blue it's her blue dress. I have.
But um, it zips up the front, and y'all know me,

(32:05):
I am not good with zippers. I had a whole
zipper fiasco that happened at San Diego Comic Con, and
if he was there, Essentially, I wore a zippered, tight
outfit and my zipper broke and so my outfit was
just open. It was a mess. But it just like
slid down. It was a it was I know, I

(32:29):
was tired of holding into goods. I wore a I
wore a one piece, so luckily I had ge like
I had these tight hot like white pants and I'm
I'm extra. I'm way too extra at at a you know,
I used to go to comic con though I would
like beg my mom to take me to comic Con
when I was like eleven. And now that I actually
get to be on panels, I'm going to live my

(32:51):
my best life and and do up as much. I'm
gonna take up as much space as possible. I wore
a one piece and it zipped up right in the
front and the zipper. I went to the bathroom. It
was actually I was with er Kaishi, who you probably know.
She's a host over at Geek and Sunjury. But we
just did a panel for sky Bound and I was like,

(33:11):
I have to be run in the restroom because then
we're doing another panel that nurdiced I was hosting. Ran
into the restroom, undid. When you're wearing a one piece, y'all,
you have to like take the whole thing off to play.
I also wore one piece for my Ralph Breaks the
Internet premiere, same thing. If you can picture me in
the bathroom taking the entire thing off to p it
was a lot how to like have help putting it

(33:32):
back on. Um. This is just behind the scenes that
you all don't see bts UM. I also was talking
with Anna here at My Heart about how because I
was hosting with e at the Oscars, they had to
sew my undergarment. They so one they put me in spanks.
They cut off a leg of my spanks so that
you couldn't see it because my slit was so high,

(33:53):
and they sewed my spanks to my dress, so in
order to pee, I had to pull my spank to
this side. I just want you guys to know the
behind the scenes when you see ladies on the red carpet,
what is actually there's like an entire team of people
that are sewing and snipping, and it's like, see, I
don't know if like Sandy in Greece, that final scene

(34:14):
where they had to sew her those black leather pants
on her, that was me. Um. Anyways, I'm hoping when
you listen to this, I will have had a great
time in my zipper didn't break or else it would
probably be in the news because I would be but naked.
What was I gonna say? Okay, So, something that I've
noticed that's in this lore is scrolls. So scrolls are

(34:37):
also a fictional race of aliens, essentially their shape shifters um.
And there's a very popular Crease scroll war that I
know people were excited. I think that was referenced in
the trailer. Um I again, I am coming at this. Yeah,
the Cree Scroll War. So that's what's supposed to be happening.

(34:58):
Like so Kevin Figi said, it's not going to be
an origin story where she gets her powers in the movie.
We're not going to see that she's already gonna have
her powers and they're in the middle of this war.
So it's gonna be kind of interesting to see, how like,
because she's just already gonna be a badass like out there, um,

(35:20):
and you see her in the green like. So I'll
tell you from a fan point of view. When it
was coming out last year with all the photographs because
they were filming in l a Um and they came
out with the green outfit, Oh yeah, I was like
what no, why, what's happening? Uh? And then someone told
me they were like, don't worry, she's gonna wear her

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blue and red like later. And I was like, because
everything you saw was her in the green thing, which
was probably like who knows, like two scenes or something,
we don't know for me. I honestly, when I saw
her in the green, I was like, isn't that also
so they could see you? I mean, I'm sure that's
not it now, But I never jumped to inclusions because
when I saw her in her green outfit, I'm like,
that's also how you do green screen stuff. That's how

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they see g I stuff. So if they wanted her
bright colors to pop in a certain way, it would
make sense that they would paint her green so that
digitally they could then go in and put whatever they
wanted there. Um. So I didn't know why people I'm
sure that they will have her in her green because
that's her original when she that's her cree. Yeah. And
it's just so funny because when stuff comes out like

(36:28):
that and you just don't know and we will will
be like oh ha ha ha, like we everyone was
spreading over this thing and it's not even a big deal.
Well because then the trailer came out and she's all
in her blue and red and she goes binary, which
also people didn't like to see that trailer um when

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she goes completely like on fire, okay, super saying yeah, um,
but because that is probably like a really huge scene
and like, oh they didn't like that it was spoiled.
She goes okay okay, So I mean I get it,

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and I was like, oh my god, I totally get
I totally I totally get that. But I think they
do they also have to think of people that aren't
like me, that aren't necessary, that didn't grow up with
Captain Marvel, that aren't invested as much. I mean I
would a thousand percent and still see her, but I
think they need they need some of those heavy hitting scenes.
Same with you know, the other Marvel films and DC

(37:32):
films and Star Wars like they need some really, even
though it might be like, oh, they gave that away,
they need some of those heavy hitting scenes and trailers
for other people that are just casual action fans to
want to see it. So I think it was smart
for them, and it's still going to be cool to
see how she gets to that level. Um, let me
tackle to other Captain Marvels before we get you know,
officially to Carol Danver's and talk about the future of

(37:54):
Captain Marvel. So there was the fifth Captain Marvel is
canoe er. I think I'm saying that right. Can I
try to look me. You're doing a good job, thank you?
Who first appeared in Civil War UM The Return The
Return March two thousand seven. He is a scroll sleeper
agent who is bound with Marvel's DNA. Okay, so a

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lot of these go back to Marvel. The first one
Marvel's DNA to lock itself into Marvel's form and given
technological replicas of the cree Nega bands. What's really funny though,
is going through all of those, it just makes me
think because I'm like, wow, wow, Like this was probably
like a one run thing, Like who knows about this?

(38:39):
Captain Marvel anyways. Um, but it's probably all because if
they don't do one, so like what can we do.
That's why it always goes back to Marvel because they
killed him with cancer. Yeah, but obviously they kept his cells.
He could come. I mean, you're never dead in superhero Land.

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So Nega bands were created by the Supreme More of
the Cree. They're loosely based on the quantum bands, using
the forces of the negative zone in the wielder's own
psionic energies. So they essentially give you increased physical strength,
interstellar flight, no need for food, water, air, or sleep.
That's a huge advantage survival in the vacuum of space.

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So the next one is no Var. That was as
part of the Dark Rain storyline Novar Joint. That's the next.
Captain Marvel joined the new team in the Dark Avengers
using the alias Captain Marvel. He first appears in Marvel
Boy number one in August two thousand. He quit the
team on discovering they were all villains, at which point

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he was look, that is a good. That is a good.
So he's always had that like morality behind him because
you know, he was originally sent to take over us
and didn't, so he's always had that. When he discovered
that they were villains, he left, at which point he
was contacted by the Supreme Intelligence given a copy of
the original Captain Marvel's Nega bands. Again, those are those

(40:04):
super bands you can basically that's like, oh, Pete, that's
like you can basically get away with anything. Um and
totally should take his place at the creeze Protector of Earth. UM.
And that leads us up to Carol Danvers in July
of twelve. Carol Danvers a longtime super heroin known as
Miss Marvel. So that was so she was in comics

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as Miss Marvel. Do you know how many runs? Like
how long she existed as Miss Marvel before she switched
over from the seventies till two thousand twelves. Okay, and
now Miss Marvel is Kamala right, Kamala kan Yeah, yeah,
she's Miss Marvel now, Okay. So and that like I
believe that happened about the same time, Um, she came

(40:48):
out and uh, Captain Marvel and they because that's like
how it all happened. And I was like what um,
which was also confusing for me as a fan as
I was like, why are they They're keeping Miss Marvel.
So it's not that they don't want to do Miss
Marvel anymore, but I understand now like they're giving it

(41:10):
to a younger generation and it's more diverse. I'm glad
that they kept the mantle, you know. I'm glad that
they didn't just undo because, like you said, it's from
she existence to seventies, so I'm glad that she still
has that history, but she can continue on the mantle
in the way so it was it was in retrospect.

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Is a cool time, um to have Carol take on
the Captain Marvel um title and change and then also
have the younger generation come in and take up her
Miss Marvel title, and uh, you know, it's a whole
new generation of readers and types of nerds. So if

(41:58):
someone wanted to get into Captain Marvel, would they start,
Like I'm sure people ask you that in the comic books,
right well, because I love Miss Marvels, and I'll point
them to the now repackaged Miss Marvel years and in
the big books. But if you don't want to get
that crazy, which I feel like after you read like
this two thousand twelve, Kelly Sue run when she becomes

(42:21):
Captain Marvel. Initially you will want to go back and
read the Miss Marvel stuff because you want to know
her history and where she came from and what makes
her her um. But but maybe not, maybe you just
like her as Captain Marvel and you want to just
keep going. And then there's also the other Kelly Sioux

(42:41):
run which is from two fourteen. Uh, and that's a
really good one. So um that one is the higher
Further Faster, which that's in in her in the Captain
Marvel stuff a lot um. I think that's Kelly Sue
like she did to Higher Further Faster um in the

(43:02):
two twelve one to um. But the thing that I
love about the two one is the flirkin. Okay, what
is that? Wait? No, no, wait, you're gonna tell me
what that is. We got to take a quick break
and then you're gonna tell me what the flirkin is.
Ok right when we come back. Okay, and we're back, Okay, flerkin.

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That's her cat. Oh yeah, so her cat uh which
in the comics and is kind of his name her name. Uh.
The it's the alien species of cat. Oh, that's the
type of okay, but her cat at least I know
this from scene from everyone I know where you're going
to say, Goose, that's not the cat's name. The cat's

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name is Chewy. So one thing that I'm going to
say that might have been confusing in this lore, Like
I don't I don't know if they can. I know
that legally they could use that name because they're all
under the same company. But so the thing about it
when they first came out with the cat, right and
I was like, oh my god. You could see in
the poster he's like down there. They're going to make
the cat a big part of it. Um because the
cat is a big part in the Kelly Sioux run

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um because yeah, okay, so well he's like, yeah, he's
orange and he's fluffy, but his name is Chewy after Chewbacca.
Because the thing about Captain Marvel is she's a huge
Star Wars fan, Like her ship is named Harrison. She
loves Star Wars, like Tony Stark is always teasing her
about being a Star Wars nerd and stuff like that.

(44:37):
That's so cool. Well no, I mean, that's so meta
now that Disney and Star Wars, I mean, and Marvel
are all together, so it's like, so it seems like great,
guess what. They changed the cat's name. However, I'm still
hoping that Goose dies because no, because Goose dies in
the comics. No, he doesn't die. Well, Goose in Top

(45:00):
Gun dies. Oh Goose and top Gun. Yeah, so I
think that you are actively wishing harm to this cat
and this movie. This is insane only because why would
you change the cat's name when you have the Star Wars.
You have Star Wars. You can use what I've heard.
You want to know what someone told me? Is this
a spoiler? This? And this is just hearsay. Someone told

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me that because Disney owns Star Wars and Marvel, they
already have a property that they market called Chewy Chewbacca.
They don't want two things. Yeah, they don't named with
the same thing, so they just renamed it Goose. And
I'm not okay with it. I'm sorry. We're destroying her

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most The biggest part of her origin story for you
is that she remains a Star Wars fan. I'm sure
that she will because she's because she lands in the nineties.
For people that don't know, let's just go ahead and
hop into what we do know about the film, and
then we'll talk about the future of her. We're not
to give anything away that isn't already you know, expressed
in a one minute trailer. But she lands in the nineties.

(46:06):
Um and we know that because she also lands through
like a Blockbuster video and the trailer. Yeah, I'm really
excited for whatever music, nostalgic music that they're going to
be playing. I don't mind. So she might be a
Star Wars fan, she might have some reference to Star
Wars in some way, like in her bedroom or I

(46:28):
don't know, but I understand why Disney wouldn't name him Chewy. Also,
I don't know. I was gonna say, a lot of
the viewership that's going to go see this movie, a
lot of them are comic book readers, but a majority
of them probably aren't, so they might not know the
cat's name so much they do. Here for them to
just change it, and that's what it is now, which

(46:50):
I get it, so just like a quick thing. I
came into the m c U. Not because I got
into the comics in two thousand and six and Iron
Man was already out and all of that. Um, So
I have always been like, this is what the movies are?
This so cool? Like he, uh, this is what it is.

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Because I didn't read the comics. I don't know that
the every nuance, every little thing that's in the movies.
But this is like the first movie for me that
I am coming in with information. So now I sort
of know what those people feel. Like that gets so aggravated. Um,

(47:31):
but obviously I'm not letting it ruin my life, but
like it just irks me. But now I I like
can fully understand and see that perspective that I was
always like, come on, it's a movie, but I can
I get it, like your you want your character to
be like protected in the same and which it's hard

(47:54):
in the m c because it's totally different storyline. Um,
there's so many iterations of her in the books themselves
that I don't even agree with, like especially like the
Life of Captain Marvel that just came out and how
they rebranded, like how who her mom is and what
her origin is. So that was a lot of things
are happening that I'm I'm not okay with. But maybe

(48:18):
like ten years from now, I'll be like, oh that
was so silly. Yeah, But but right now I'm like, oh,
I don't like what's happening with some of the things
that they've changed, But now I can get it, Like
what it's like to be a fan that that happens
to Yeah, I think we've had a lot of these conversations.
It's such a it's a really double edged sword because

(48:38):
I always want people to kind of like take risks
and I'm okay if a filmmaker has like, no, I
think this could be great. I think that has happened
sometimes where they've had to change an origin story or
parts of it and ends up being in my opinion, better,
or they both exist. It's not necessarily that one is better,
but you get to have both in some world. Yeah.

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I as I say, I haven't read enough of her
to really weigh or any of her to weigh in,
but I think with it seems from what I can
tell that people are really excited about this film. Oh yes, then,
and that's great, Like because you're you're a huge Wonder
Woman fan. Yeah, so that's this is like my wonder Woman.

(49:25):
Whereas like this character, this is like I know a
lot about this character. I want the best for this
character and for her to be betrayed and loved. Like
it's really hard to see. I didn't even create her,
and I'm like, oh yeah, you're like, yeah, she's yours,
you know. And um, so can you talk a little

(49:47):
bit about her, like her personality, Like what is she like? Um?
She I mean I think she was really like sarcastic.
She's um. She really is like kind of like Captain
America uh um in a sense that she wants to
do what's right. Um. That's why she got into some

(50:07):
trouble in the Civil War because she was like Antony's
stark side. Um, because she was just going by protocol
and there was some things that she did um that
we're just like what the initiative was about that where
it wasn't like so great as far as like morally

(50:28):
and like for families and stuff like that. But she
was just doing her job. Because she comes from the
military background, I think that that kind of gets her
in trouble uh on the likability scale, because she's, you know,
she's a soldier, she has a job, she's gonna she
has her orders. But then there's the other side of

(50:51):
her that is like a human that has feelings and
she's you know, she has all these power ors, and
she goes through a lot of like turmoil, which is
why she's like dealt with alcoholism. And her and Tony
Stark have a like a relationship because they've both gone
through the same things. Um. I wonder if they'll have

(51:12):
that in the film. I wonder. I don't know, Well,
I mean, this is the nineties, but maybe in Vengers. Yeah,
she uh. And the other Marvel character that I think
of when you say that is Jessica Jones, who they
did show in the Marvel Netflix film dealing with alcoholism.

(51:33):
And that's what I liked about her is that she
was able to be flawed in the way that Carol is.
I think Carol is kind of obviously like Jessica Jones UM,
who's also seen as like a street level ish, like
you know, Marvel hero, but kind of more I don't know,
I don't think she's held in the same regard I
would say the way that Captain Marvel is like she's

(51:54):
held alongside um Captain America, UM, where they're seen as
this like righteous you know. And I don't think anyone
thinks that about Jessica, which I relate to her more
like you know, we talked with Tara about how Harley Quinn,
you know, is seeing and it's like, well, I like that.
I like because I relate to them. I don't always

(52:15):
relate to the more like righteous, upheld like law abiding superheroes. Um.
But I do like that they added that for her
because it seems like you know, with Wonder Woman. I
love Wonder Woman, but she's very and I say this
in the most loving way. I've always seen her as
the mother of Earth. I've seen her like as the

(52:37):
mother in the in the Justice League, Like she is compassionate,
and I don't mean that in a bad way. I
just mean she's she's um nurturing. She has all these
traits that like some of her other male counterparts like
don't have, which I think is necessary. I think I
don't see those as a weakness. I see those as
a necessary part of being a superhero. She loves us

(52:58):
even when we don't deserve that. I see that as
a mom, Like that's something my mother would do. Is
like she she can't help herself but love us, love humans. Um.
But she doesn't have as many flaws. She doesn't she's
not an alcohol like, she doesn't have a wonder Yeah,
she's so innocent, just so a childlike in a sense

(53:20):
because she and that's what like in No Man's Land,
she's like she doesn't get it, where Like I don't
know if Carol would be like she because she's just
like a badass. She would just be like, I'm going
out there, like I'm not listening to guys. Like she
does her own She does her own thing. Yeah. The

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one thing I will say I love about Wonder Woman
is that she she doesn't listen to men because she
never grew up in a world where they existed, so
she doesn't know to listen to them. Like I love
that she just when they talk and she was like okay,
and then she's like cool, thanks, and she just like
does her own things. It's because in our world, you know,
and so much of literature and texture and text and

(54:04):
even if we're looking at the Bible, it's like you
must um honor and obey your husband, and she just
didn't grow up with that. She didn't grow up in
our society where that where you're supposed to do that.
So when she encounters men telling her what to do,
she honestly she's just doing She's just like, oh I
what I don't. She honestly is just doing what what
she would do anyways, because she doesn't have any she

(54:27):
wasn't raised like that. So it's my favorite thing about her,
even if it is kind of in like a I
don't ways say innocenter, na naive, But even if it's
kind of in a she didn't mean to She just
says like what, no, I don't have to listen to you.
Why would I listen? And also she's royalty, so she
you know, doesn't have to listen to civilians. Um. I

(54:48):
do love that about her. So what do you see
as the future of Captain Marvel? Well, I mean, you know,
everyone says that she's going to come and beat Thanos. Yeah,
um so I think that was her powers that would
give that would well, that was the thing is that they,
Um I think that they struggled a little bit with
because she is so like Superman in the sense that

(55:13):
he's like really hard to beat. Oh yeah, um so
she's just so powerful. Obviously she takes like a beating,
but um she can she just absorbs everything she can
absorb like a punch and then bring it back at
you like so and like in a in the comics,
then she's up there fighting spaceships and taking like all

(55:37):
of the fire and she just absorbs it all and
then throws it all back at them. Um. So I
think that she's she's a match for Thanos. So that's personally,
and we'll see what happens. I personally think that she's
going to rescue Tony Wow, because she's up there. Yeah,

(55:58):
because she can be in Spain so and and that
would be super cool if it really did happen, because
they have like this relationship in the comics, not anything
like romantic, but like like a buddy, you know, relationship,
because they have so much stuff in common. Um, Like
he calls her care bearer in here, you know how

(56:21):
he is. He gives he gives everyone nicknames. Um. But yeah,
and then the Flirkin. I think it has something to
do with the Flirkin. They have like time pockets in
their mouth and they can make they can like multiply.
And that's what's really cool about this is that the
Kelly Sioux run in two thousand fourteen, Rocket was in it,

(56:42):
and that was like around the time when Guardians came out,
So I was super into Guardians and everything. Rocket and
grew and he shows up in her comic and he's
trying to kill her cat, and she doesn't know that
it's a flirkin. She just thinks it's a cat, and
then it turns out that it multiplies into a million
cats and rockets. Like I told you, it was a flirkin.

(57:03):
So that's like a big thing. And that's why I
can't tell if they're marketing cat as much because it's
cute and they did really well with Groot. Yeah, I
think it's because if it's because it's a flirkin and
it's like the key to saving the world, not maybe

(57:23):
not necessarily saving the world, but it's like the key
somehow to fighting Thanos is the cat. That would be
really funny. Um. I do also think because it's cute
and people love the Internet loves cats. I mean, look
at what they did with Porgs. You know, they were
pretty smart of like, I think, we can sell a
lot of things and Disney is in charge, so yeah, um,

(57:46):
but that would be fascinating. I mean Guardians now that
she's introduced, right and she does a lot of stuff
with them in the comics, so that's she could be
in Guardians three three. Yeah, she could be up there.
I think that she's well, you know, the all the
original Avengers are the ones that are left, and so

(58:07):
I think, you know, after the snap, oh, she's going
to create and she's the leader of the Avengers, of
these new Avengers, So maybe they're they're doing like a
little transition here into the next ten years of the
m c U. Look, if we could get America Chavas
in there, I'm voting for her because yes, so if
we're talking about the newer Avengers, she captain Marvel America Chaves,

(58:31):
Miss Marvel like you were girls. Yeah, these are all
like the characters that I love that they when they
popped up in the Lego game, I was like, oh
my god, they put them in like Ms. Marvel and
her black leotard is in there. She's like an unlocked character,
which I'm sure a lot of people when they unlocked

(58:51):
her were like who is that? Um? But like, she's
been around forever, so this is her time she's going
to be. If people wanted to get into that New Avengers,
which they also have an animated UM series as well,
Marvel Rising. Marvel Rising. Yeah, if people wanted to get
into at the comic that originally came out. It was

(59:12):
like a couple of years ago. What would what is
that comic that they would be getting in um um
is Avengers. Um. There's so many girls, you know what.
Kudos to people that keep up with all of this
and can separate them all. I'm sure that person is
Hector Navarro. Even me as a big America Chaves fan.

(59:33):
I'll have to send you a picture I have. I
think I probably got them from your shop. I have to.
I have America Chaves her Beyonce cover for those that
don't know she did. Uh. I think it was from Lemonade. Yeah,
I think that's really cool. I have her ultimates. Ultimates
is what I owe the ultimates. Yeah, this was I'm
sure that maybe we'll do a review. I know. The

(59:55):
only thing that I would say is um. In closing,
there's and there's been a lot of hate directed at
this movie that hasn't even come out yet, and so
much so that Rotten Tomatoes had to essentially revamp their
entire site. Yeah, because and this happened too with Black Panther.

(01:00:16):
When Black Panther came out, people tried to down vote
it essentially even though it I mean no before it
came out. Before it came out, people tried to downvote
it so that its ratings would drop, and this happened
with Captain Marvel. They downvoted it or reviewed it, you know,
using only like one stars and stuff, even though again
unless you're pressed, you haven't seen it. Um and so

(01:00:40):
essentially Rotten Tomatoes had to change it so that you
can no longer so like fans can no longer review
a film before it's come out, because they were essentially
just doing that to drop her score, and her score
ended up dropping to be the lowest her It was
lowest rated film in the entire m c U because
of this. Yeah, and it's really really I mean, I

(01:01:02):
don't even want to spend too much time on it.
If you all have been listening to our issues about
what happens with women when they try to join the conversation. Um,
all Brie Larson asked for was that she wanted more diversity.
She wanted that to be considered and kind of that
put first with her interviews because just speaking behind the scenes,

(01:01:22):
it is very hard. Most outlets do not really have
a full roster of people of color, and even then
they're not really given the opportunity. I'm in I'm in
group chats with other journalists and we see this a
lot of times, they're not given the opportunity to even
speak to these actors or interview these filmmakers. And so

(01:01:45):
it was really important to Brie Larson that she did
give the opportunity to women and people of color, and
for some reason that made other journalists very angry. It
was insane that her just saying, Hey, this is a
priority for me. I've noted, I've noticed this issue that
we don't have a lot a lot of women and
people of color um interviewing us, you know, especially with

(01:02:06):
other films, and she's like, I really want to make
it a point. Men got upset about it and down
voted her thing. I actively, I actively had to unfollow
multiple male journalists that I follow for saying like, I
can't believe that she's made us feel unwelcome and I
want to be like, welcome to my life. That's been

(01:02:27):
if he and I his life, our entire life is
not being the front and center welcomed one. So anyways,
I just want to say I think she's amazing. I
think she's doing what she is an ally, she's doing
what she's supposed to do. Um, I will I will
continue to say this. Women of color the least paid,
least represented members of the nerd community period period. In fact,

(01:02:52):
I had a guest badge to UM. Anytime I do
a panel, I get a guest badge for UM for
a guest to come. And I posted on Facebook and
I said I'm looking for a woman of color if
they would like to have my guest badge. And someone
complained like, well, I'm a man, blah blah blah, I
guess I can't have it. And I was like, listen, dude,
Like I said, women of color are the least represented

(01:03:16):
in this spot. If I want to give my guess
badge to another woman of color so I can make
some space for her in something that costs three d
dollars to get into and is also isn't actively trying
to invite women of color. And I want to use
my platform in my little bit of space to bring
someone else in with me. That's the whole thing. We

(01:03:37):
have to reach down the ladder and pull each other
up or else we're not getting in. So I'm just um,
I'm I feel bad for what is happened. Like the
amount of abuse that she has taken for just saying
that she wants she'd even say that. She didn't even
say that those are the only people she wanted. She
just said that she wanted to make sure that they

(01:03:58):
were given, you know, the same courtesy as everyone else.
And justin saying that, it was like she was invalidated
completely and had the site. You know, Luckily, Rotten Tomatoes
stepped in because for a while she was just down
voted completely. So if you're not on Twitter and in
and in this world, and you're just a you know,

(01:04:20):
family that's thinking of taking your family to see this
and you see that it has the lowest rated score,
you might not. So I'm really glad that Rotten Tomatoes
stepped in and did something about it. But I don't know.
These are these are the conversations we're going to continue
to have on here. But things are luckily looking up.
I think she's gonna be awesome. I think she's going

(01:04:41):
to kick I think that she is. I think Bretty
Larson was a great pick for this, and I'm excited
to see what she's gonna do. Yeah, I think it's
good that she's I mean, you could see from her
other choices and movies that she's taken on and like
when she was at the Oscars and hugging all the ladies,

(01:05:03):
it's just nice like to be there, yeah, and just
like use your platform to be, like like you said,
reach back and help others. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what
I feel like to Jessica chas Stain is someone that
has been a huge ally. When she found out that
Octavia Spencer wasn't being paid as much as her, she
told Octavia Spencer, Hey, this is how much they're paying me,

(01:05:26):
just so you know. Octavia Spencer asked for more money
because of that and was able to get more money,
but she wouldn't have known that they were paying her less.
That is an ally. That's an ally, and we have
to look. I feel like so much, you know, women
are against each other so often, and these are women
who are really really trying to say, hey, I know

(01:05:47):
that we've been I know that these women have been
pushed out of this community, and I want to make
sure that they are included. It's not even that I
want to include them over, you know, and I want
to I want to make sure that her voice is heard.
So something that you Tiffany are also doing at the
Perky Nerd. I'm going to bring it all the way back.

(01:06:08):
Thank you for joining us today to talk about Captain Marvel.
We will get Wait, this was just an introduction to
you know, the character of Captain Marvel. We will get
into her and continue to talk about her as you know,
the movie comes out and we can reassess some of
these some of these, you know, things that we thought
may or may not happen. And if you know now

(01:06:28):
that she's officially an m c U. Yeah, so, tiffany
where can everyone catch you? Um? You can? Well, I
will actually be at El Capitan um seeing the movie
on opening night. Oh so you mean people can actually
walk up to you? Ye? Okay, but I'm kindly scared. Okay.

(01:06:49):
We normally say where what is your social media handle?
So people can follow she's telling you where you can
actually find her physically. I'm scared. I'm scared. I don't
want people to see my reaction. Uh. If you don't
like it, you like it too much? You don't like it?
Yeah yeah, yeah, but after that you can come and

(01:07:11):
see me and get all the comics because you're gonna
love this character. Um at the Perky Nerd in Burbank.
It's one six zero six West Magnolia Boulevard. It's a
little mom and pop boulevard right here in l A.
And um, you can go to the Perky Nerd on Twitter,
Instagram and Facebook to find us and follow us. Um.

(01:07:34):
But the that's very important. Oh yeah, I might take
you to a different Perky Nerd. Yeah. So it's the
Perky Nerd and you also have a lot of art.
Uh yeah, it's a little bit Captain Marvel up you
haven't yes, yeah cool. Yeah. And if people ever want
to order prints, yeah, um, we do put a lot

(01:07:58):
of stuff on the Perky Nerds store dot com. Um. Um,
yeah that we do a lot of a lot of events.
We have a lot of people come out and do signings. Um.
Like we had the Little Golden Book artist um for
Captain Marvel, which, by the way, if you don't know
Captain Marvel and you are an adult or you're a

(01:08:18):
five year old, you should get this Little Golden Book
because it's a great introduction to the character. It shows
her in the Air Force, it introduces you to her
fighting with the Guardians, it introduces the cat um and
it's like super easy, super beautiful and you would know
all about this character before you go see the movie.
Oh so cute. Um, I am at miss Danny Fernandez

(01:08:42):
and all the things and what else I don't know.
Follow me on Twitter. Oh yes, thanks to everyone that
has posted a review. UM, that really helps if he
and I so much with getting the podcast notice and
listen to. And thanks for all the feedback on these
past couple of episodes. I know sometimes we have really
heavy topic, but I think that if you and I
feel like their topics that need to be discussed, you know,

(01:09:06):
in this world, in the world that we're in, in
the nerd world specifically, it's not the same for everyone,
and so we do want to have open conversations about
that and how and all the great things that are
coming about. Um, all the great things that are coming
about in this world. Uh. And then check out our tea.
Public side is t public dot com, slash Nerdificent, tweet

(01:09:26):
at us or Instagram tag us if you are in
a Nerdificent shirt or merch or you have a mug whatever,
because we love sharing it. I shared on my instant stories.
I love seeing y'all in it. So UM. I actually
was at the doctors today and I was sharing like
the IVY and fusion. My had a fiasco with doing that.
But I had my stay Nerdy sticker on my laptop

(01:09:49):
because I was trying to do work while I was there.
And my doctor was like, remember this stay nerdy. I
was like, wow, this infiltrated every aspect of my life. Um,
I love you all and remember to stay Maarnie

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