Episode 73: The Eternals

Hey Nerd fam, are you ready for Phase 4 of the MCU? This week Dani and Ify are joined by Host and Comedian Jay Washington to talk about the 'Eternals' franchise. From Jack Kirby's creation to their latest appearance as part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the gang gets you ready for the next phase of Marvel films right here on Nerdificent!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
And welcome to another episode of Nerdifice Order. I'm your
host if you want away, and sitting across from me,
as always is Danny Fernandez. Copy years. Okay, we're on.
We're finally ended right at the same time. Yeah, I
don't think it was orchestrated. We made it. We made
it happen for once in our lives never again. Please

(00:32):
somebody clip that and enjoy it. Yeah, clipping, enjoy clipping, Enjoy.
It's time it's your boy. Uh see, I made that
right today We today is going to be a fun
subject and it's timely. It's timely. The news just broke
this past last week. Yeah, you know, there are definitely
folks who are like, what the heck? Well, now you're

(00:52):
hyped because you're like, oh, I finally can figure out
about the the eternals, you know, the eternals d E turnals.
I was hyped one because Kumel very excited to see
him and Selma Hiak who doesn't age, and I'm just
so she is mommy and she is also highly recommend

(01:14):
checking out her Instagram because she's emo as hell. She's
I kid you not. If he she had she had
several posts of her just being washed away by the
ocean and it was it was like and somebody was like, oh,
is this a photo shoot? She's like, no, this is
just on vacation and it was just her being in
the water and letting the water like rush over her face.
It was the most emo thing ever. And I'm like, yes,

(01:35):
I used to make my friends do this in like
the woods or something with me, like surrounded by leaves,
taking like the most emo my chemical romance. Avril Levine
of course, like you, we can't leave out my man's
paperboy ak Brian Tyree him. Yeah, yeah, just and which
he was pointing out he is now part of the

(01:55):
m c U and the DC universe because he's going
to be in the Joker as well. Oh yeah, he's
part of all the universe and he's in in the
Spider Verse. Yeah, all the all the all the universes,
the Sony now the now Sony Universe. But without further ado,
I definitely want to introduce our guests. Great all around dude,

(02:16):
host of the Mad Titan podcast, stand up comic funny.
You've seen him on screen Junks, You've seen him on Collider,
You've seen him literally anywhere you can see nerdy people
do nerdy things. Give it up for Jay Washington. Yet,
happy to be here, very thank you for having me. Seriously,
I'm glad to be on here with you. Was there
anyone that you were really excited that was announced in

(02:36):
the internals? I think the paper Boy announcing was so dope.
And the Game of Thrones reunion to basically put Rob
Stark and John Snow back together, Yeah, you know that
was kind of dope. Um, the Stark boys at it
again again to get Angelina Jolie and see you and
not just in a cameo. You know what I'm saying.
Because you hear Angelie Joe, You're like, all right, she's

(02:58):
gonna have a small role. No, she's a main part
of this. And you're like, okay, but there's no way
she would take a smart because she is Maleficent, so
she's in that Disney universe. But at the same time,
it's like a lot of people just want to be
a part of the m c U now because it's
so big. So you know, some people like, look, I'll
just take a role whatever you got and to have

(03:20):
her and like you said, sell my Kiyak out of
all people like I could see eventually Angela and Jolie
being being maleficent. But then sem mahare like yo, somebody
was like, this is what you should do. That was
probably her. Her agent was like, yo, I got the
perfect thing. And the fact that they did because of
what she's playing, uh leam MQ and Laura Riddolf, what

(03:43):
they're doing with their characters. Their genda been in three
of the eternals. So that's so dope, you know what
I'm saying That they've shown marble showing like, look, we
don't we don't have to stick to the norm what
the comic books were. You know, we can change a
man to a woman or vice versa. That's why it
really bothered before we hop into a we're geeking out
about That's what really bothered me about She When the
she Hulk announcement happened and I tweeted, oh, I would

(04:05):
love to have like a beefy actress, like that's just
thick like playing it, and they were like, um, one,
she's like she's always she Hulk, she doesn't transform, which
is not true. Um. And then because there are iterations
where she chooses to huh and she yeah, I mean
it takes two seconds to google but whatever. Um and
then it just seemed like people were making up excuses

(04:26):
for her to not be thicker. I just pointed out,
I'm like, you know, all of our female superheroes live action,
they're all size six and under, which you know is
I'm not body shaming at all. I think that's fine,
but I would love to see if we're talking about
I want to see a six five woman beat the
dog crabbing. Also, a lot of people forget about she Hulk.
She has a hyper sex drive. That's one of the
things about her character. Because of her getting at Gammer,

(04:49):
it just enhanced her sex drive. So I want to
yo gamma radiation make you want the Hulk was immune. Hey, look,
we don't know how much the Hope was smashing on
scar like, but it just was so they were like,
wouldn't she be Like wouldn't she like people are just
coming up with But also they were like, how how
are we going to ever find an actress? Like I'm like,

(05:10):
are you kidding me? Also, the w W E y'all
were so quick to take in freaking the Rock and
John Cena and um Dave Batista like you're so willing
to take in them and believe them. But like when
it comes to a woman that maybe a lot of
the women now are shorter in the w w E.
But that's what I mean. She hope doesn't necessarily if

(05:32):
we're gender bending, or if we're like, don't have to
go entirely off source material. I don't think she has
to be eleven naturally. I think that you can put
her in something. I think that we can cheat the
camera a little bit, maybe, like we put Tom Cruise
on Apple boxes for everything. You know, Camara is green
and it's an interesting green and like you guys are
a chill with Thanos, Like you know, when everyone saw

(05:53):
him was like whoa what and then you guys just
everyone loves it. So anyways, what I'm saying is like,
please just be open, for the love of God, Like
just you don't have to have you're talking about the
world today. We're being open is the thing that people
just don't want to do. It just felt like when
I asked for thicker actresses, everybody had a reason to
not cast them, and I was like, but I want

(06:14):
to she hulk that can crush my head with her thighs,
Like that's what I want to see, and um, anyways,
I think that's good representation having different body types absolutely,
for like, let that look, let me taste up. If
the dude don't want a woman with thick throw with
you in your life, yeah, we'll have different body types

(06:35):
up there. That would be great. So we started a
podcast with what We're sinking out about? Jay? What are
you sinking out about? This? For me, it was the
announcement of the d twenty three shows. But on top
of that, it's not even really comic book and nerdy stuff.
It's this Little Brother album that came out made The
Loyal Watch album has been so dope. I've never played
something and repeat so many times in my life in

(06:56):
my life. And also, I just saw the Titan season
two trailer. Now in the Fanta season one but I
was like, okay, y'all got me with this one? You
got me with that? Seems to be like the general
consensus is people like, oh, I wasn't no season one
the season dude, this is this one gotta look like
heat right here. Well, because I'm a death stroke fan,
So anytime you bring death Stroke in, as long as
you can do them justice, I'm good with it, and
East Time Morale seems to be a good choice for them,

(07:17):
the way they got him looking like Slade Wilson. Uh,
it's just a matter of seeing what they do in
the series. Because the whole tightened series, if you haven't
seen it, it is literally just how Dick Grayson becomes
night Wing. That is literally a whole pot of the show.
At the end of the day, it's just Dick Grayson's
evolution in the night Wing, but we have to have
these other steps along the way. So I mean, I'm
a fan. I'm a fan of what the DC universe

(07:38):
is trying to do minus Swamp thing. So because Wolf
that was rough, But you didn't like Swamping. Hell No,
I didn't. Because it didn't. I understand it got canceled early,
and I understand that also there was a lot of
interference from Warner Brothers from studio, but the show didn't
have an identity. You brought James wanting to make a
horror show, so by that, you know, by that standard,

(07:58):
I was automatically in. But then you saw the first
episode it was horror based. Second episode was like, all right,
this is this exposition now, But then it switched over
and it became more about aby R Cane as opposed
to swamp Thing, and I'm like, I don't need the
story of aby Ar Cane. This is not her show.
It's about swamp thing. And then I again with it

(08:20):
being cut. I understand, but they were doing so many
things that where they knew they were cut, they were
setting up like, hey, we might get a season two.
No you're not. You set up so much unnecessarily, so
that frustrated me with that dzang, that's cool and we
gotta do a swamp thing, you know that that was good.
I guess for me the big thing I was geeking

(08:41):
out about it. It has been like a good music
drop because you had a little brother, let's not forget
Missy Elliott Rady and then uh, there's so much like
it's just been lots of music too in the summer
strong too, So that's definitely been fun. I think the
personal thing I've been learned out about is uh, Naomi

(09:03):
is really in the PJ mask and like it's it's
been her life. But it's been real interesting to watch
because it's the first time of like watching her for
the first time experience like fandom where it's like, oh,
like I'm into this and I want every piece of this,
I want every juice of it. And then I then

(09:25):
I kind of started getting like hyper philosophical with they
where it was like, oh, p J. Mask is like
you know superheroes on training wheels for kids, because they're
like getting like the archetypes, the enemies, they like the
tropes and so like, I'm really excited to you. As
we head into uh sp October, get a Surpriser with
her little outlet outfit. My daughter loves it to My

(09:48):
daughter is going crazy about I had a DVD they
sent me. Wanted the company send me one. I didn't
even remember requesting it, and I faced time my daughter.
I was like I got something that She was like
what I just mask? Yeah, like dad, he's gonna send it.
Calm damn. Yeah, it's it's been wild like she uh
just in her room. I set up the bed and

(10:09):
then I give her like p J Mass betting and
like she kept like it was like a p J
Mass pillow with all three of them on on it,
like yo, and like she kept like fluffing her pillow
and like looking at it and putting it Like I
was like, Okay, well this is the first time, Like
it's it's it's jumping from that. Like now she's at
the age where like you can give them a gift

(10:29):
and they they do appreciate, like they're like, I like
this that that you did? Good dad? Yeah? Is she
into Daniel Tiger? Now? Was she? She'll mention him? You
know she she mentions him like yeah, like they definitely,
you know, I know they're probably communicating about that at
school because she mentions him, but she's not asking for

(10:53):
him on the screen. And when Yeah, it was wild.
We were in the car and she made me like
she was. I was listening to you know, uh, you know,
it's definitely getting real into sad boy faul. I've been
listening to My Drake and Weekend on repeat, and she
had her fingers in her ear and I was like,
what's up, baby? Do you do you want to listen
to something? And she's like yeah, p j MASK. I'm like,

(11:13):
you want to listen to p JMS? You want to
listen to the theme song? And she's like yeah, put on.
Of course Spotify had the day. She was happy and
then like I was like, oh, they have a whole
album where people they're just nonsense songs based off of
each of the characters, and she was jamming and I
had to put my foot down. Was like, I can't
listen to this bag. This is a rap. We're going

(11:33):
back to Drake. We're going back to Drake. How dare you? UM?
The thing that I'm geeking out about, I guess we're
all doing personal things is a personal thing that I
started to do was TMS, which is transcranial um stimulation.
People do it for depression and PTSD. I've known about
it for years, um and actually Neil Brennan talks I

(11:56):
think he talks about it in his special we He
and I both uh did a different treatment before that
that we both hated UM at the same doctor. And
then I've been wanting to do TMS, which they essentially
stimulates like electrodes. They stimulate your head um if you
suffer from depression. They also do it for anxiety as well.
And UM, yeah, it used to be really expensive. Now

(12:19):
it's covered by insurance or there's places that will work
with you, so it's like not as expensive. UM. But anyways,
just really cool. I've had to go in every single day,
every Monday through Friday. I go in like every day
Monday through Friday for six weeks and I'm hitting my
six week. So to me, that's really dope that we
live in a time that you can what's the feeling
like from from then to now? For you, it just

(12:42):
feels like I spiral less, Like you know, we live
in a really tough the world is tough in general,
and everything on the news is just so devastating. So me,
I'm very empathetic, Like I'm an EmPATH, Like I just
feel that entirely, and I've been super open even on
this podcast about depression and but the own that we're in,
you're at the mercy, Like you can have a perfect audition.

(13:04):
I know, because I had a friend of mine who
literally had like they called him and we're like, you
were perfect, Like that was the best audition that we've seen,
and they still went with someone else, because that happens
sometimes they want someone else or they just and that
can that can be soul crushing, That can be so
soul crushing that it was like there's nothing else I
could have done more, And so you just have to
kind of be resilient, be resilient. And so for me, Um,

(13:28):
I have found that it helps me spiral less. It
feels like I was actually telling an open mic eagle
this because if you and I were talking about him
before this, it feels like um. At first, it feels
like taps on your head and just like someone taking
their nail, kind of like just tapping one spot in
your head. But as they increase the intensity, which me
I have a high pain threshold so I can handle it,

(13:49):
it kind of feels a little bit like someone tattooing
in your head. Not in a bad way though, just
like an electric h That's what it feels like. Do
you remember those games they used to have in your
okay where you had to hold the handrails and it's
vibrated super hard. Yeah, kind of like that. It's kind
of like that. And you want to know something really
funny if he is that they'll play something for you

(14:11):
while it's only like a couple of minutes really, but
they'll play something on Netflix or whatever for you if
you want to watch it. And I always say no
because I just want to meditate during that time. But
some when my first day I came in, was watching
Ricky Gervases stand up and I was like, oh, I
feel like this is gonna undo my t I was like,
I don't want to. They're like, do you want to
finish watching this? I was like no, And then the

(14:32):
person like that. I came in the next day, They're
watching Queer. I'm like, this is much better. But yeah,
I was like, no, I do not want to watch
trick or device what I'm trying to undo. Somebody watching
the Quentin Tarantino watching Django, you like, I just I
don't want somebody to just constantly are you triggered? Are
you triggered the whole time of it? Anyway? So I
thought that was cool. Um, kind of guinea pigging myself.

(14:55):
But you can research it if it's something that you
think that you might benefit from. So um, yeah, all right,
well let's jump right into it. We're gonna jump right
down and do the Nitt degree we normally do. Lead
let off to a little public publication history and that
early stuff. Then we'll probably kick to a break before
we really jump into it. But first off and foremost,
we're talking about the Eternals. And the Eternals are a

(15:17):
fictional rates of humanoids appearing in the American comic books
published by Marvel Comics. They're described as an offshoot of
the evolutionary process that created sentient life on Earth. Original
instigators of this process, the alien Celestials, intended the Eternals
to be defenders of Earth, which leads to the inevitability
of war against their destructive counterparts, the Deviants. The Eternals

(15:39):
were created by Jack Kirby and made their first appearance
and the Eternals number one in July of nineteen seventy six. So, ja,
can you talk us through the So they're humanoid appearing,
but they're not humans. All right, here's the best analogy
for you. You remember that movie Prometheus. Yeah, remember how
it was where the giants basically took humans and all
that stuff to make the Xenomorphs. They were basically trying

(16:00):
to make better humans. They wanted to make humans that
were better to be able to protect humans on Earth.
So they did these experiments, used these cosmic radiations and
gave them all. They all of them have the same abilities,
but it's just varied as to which can do so.
To an extent, they are immortal, but some aren't. You know.
They all have super strength, They can flies, shoot cosmic

(16:22):
beams out, things like that. So they basically enhanced all
these different individuals, but depending on what their proximity is
to certain things, it varies. They can teleport, they can transmutate,
they can do all these different things. So you're talking
about the race that ended up spawning in humans, mutants
and going on forward. So that's what they are, and

(16:42):
it's just it also ties a lot into various mythologies,
Greek and Romans. Yeah, so actually Jack Kirby was working
on New Gods at d C. He had left Marvel
Comics and he went to work at uh d C
and made New Gods, but then it got canceled until
he returned to the Eternal So wonder if that would
have influenced well that you can see, Yeah, yeah, you

(17:04):
can see the influence in a lot of different crossover
type things from the artists and the creators. Again, you'll
go to the New Gods and the Eternals, You'll go
to Apocalypse and I mean you know dark Side and Thanos,
You'll go to even Deadpool and you know death Stroke.
So you'll always see those when the creators go because
those different influences different places. But yeah, also the fact

(17:25):
that you use this lore in this mythology again, Thor's
mythology is based off Norse mythology. When you go to
Moon Night is based off of Egyptian mythology, So you
just utilize that and just change it over a little
bit to add the superpowered elements behind it. Yeah. So
it says when the Celestials visited Earth five million years
ago and performed genetic experiments on early proto humanity, they

(17:46):
created two divergent races, the long lived Eternals and the
genetically unstable and monstrously grotesque deviance. I just love that.
That's like yeaheah, the way they broke it down, but
also like just hopes that we see is like you
create this like perfect beat and then this like yeah,
I wish it's bad that we both did something nobody could.

(18:11):
What is the igor whatever? Yeah. Yeah, So these experience
also led to the capacity for superpowered mutations in humans.
I guess what I didn't know is you're saying that
the Eternals led to X men. They primarily led to
the inhumans, but said as mutants if you go further
down mutations and whatnot, and that's what they're probably gonna

(18:31):
do in the movie. You think that introduce they're going
to utilize this because this way you can say, how
was the mutations? They lie dormant and a lot of
people because even the story with the Eternals, they end
up losing their memories. Spright ends up doing this thing
that makes them lose their memory. They forget who they are,
so they live regular lives, with the exception of Icarus,
who kind of remembers. He's like, I think I was

(18:53):
something else. And then eventually something happens when they all
remember and it it unlocks that latent dormant Jean with
the X Men. And this way you can do it
is everyone's had it and then all of a sudden,
the snap opened it up right right, So I didn't
know that they also so they also performed this experiment
on other planets such as the Cree and Scroll that

(19:13):
we saw from Captain Marvel as well as Spider Man
Far from Home. Remember Ben Mendelsohner process with them. He
was curate, WI, yes, you're so right, which that is
now a mess? Uh. Look. According to Sony, the post
credit scenes never happened. That's pretty much how you're going
to do that movie. The post credit scenes never happened.
Everything else was cool. Okay, okay, we have to take

(19:36):
a really quick break. We're going to hop into more
of the history of the Eternals right after this. And
we are back still here with Jay Washington. So I
know that there are a lot of maternals. Like what
number are we thinking? Uh? A lot? But the movie

(20:02):
will have how many main seven? About eight or nine?
Eight or nine? So can you walk us through? So
we're gonna have Athena, who's the daughter of Zuras. She's
also she was also known as a Zura. So that's
being played by Angelo and Jolie. She had to change
her name because of Athena. Oh yeah, because of the God. Wait, so,

(20:25):
so can you talk us through her? Like? What is she?
She's a She's a warrior. She's a warrior. She battled.
She was one of the ones me pull that right back.
I had I remembered with her. She's very much a
powerful one. She she fights alongside and she definitely tries
to help stop a lot of the wars and everything
that goes on throughout the interns with the different battles.
They have battles amongst themselves before they even have the
battles with the Devians because there is a civil war

(20:48):
that happens that it causes them to split off because
when there are the offshoots, when you have let's go
back to be it, when you have the Eternals, they
go to Earth. They make the Eternals on Earth. They
want to make the protectors. Some don't want to stay there,
some leave. Do you blame them? No? Did they know
what was gonna happen? You know? This is the funniest
thing of all time is that every hero, every superhero

(21:09):
that comes here wants to save Earth or like stay
at Earth. And I'm like, I feel like in the
real world this would not They'd be like, no, we're good.
That's the planet. This is what There's two planets over there,
there's there's other planets. Um, okay. So so she is
a warrior. She is a definite war She's like, she's
the daughter of one of the head. Do they age,

(21:31):
They age, but not like us. So they age supper slow.
So that's what gives them the immortality look like for instance,
uh Macars who basically becomes Max Curry. She's gonna be
played by Laura Radolf red Law excuse me because of
her abilities and moving so fast and constantly running and
she exudes her abilities, it makes her vulnerable. Okay, so

(21:54):
like using up your ability can be like, oh now
you can be killed. So but they still age slow.
That's how they they're going to be able to be
around this entire time. They're not directly immortal, if that
makes sense. They are, they're considered it more like the gods.
They're not even consider them immortal. But they're just old.

(22:15):
They're they're more immortal than humans. Yes, yeah, okay, yes,
and you know, so they age really slow. Are we
talking like she might be ten for like a thousand
years or something? Is that? But they but they're but
they start out as babies, right, I'm sorry that you
have to walk me through their history. If someone's pregnant,

(22:36):
that does happen. So she does have she does have
a son with a human who does end up adapting. All. Normally,
when they have the eternals have sons with humans, you
have children humans, not just sons. The child normally is human.
In the case of penas son, her son had abilities
and as a regular eternal. So it's a rarity. So
they are, you know, some are born, some are just created.

(22:57):
So you have that long line goes down because technically
Thanos is an eternal Wow, you're blowing my mind here,
And did know that that Dannis is an eternal Danis
his dad is in the Turn, his mom is from Titan.
So that's why he's the mad tight wow, because because

(23:19):
he was, and because he was, so even when it
goes that's one of the things about the film, will
probably see him be born, will more than likely see
him be born. The gosh a little baby Thanos. Someone
used to go in time and kill him. It's like
the baby Hitler. That was the that's actually the concept
of cosmic ghostwriter. Yeah, where he tries to go back
in time and so he actually because even when you

(23:43):
go to him, he kills his mother and dissects her
because he looks different. He wants to know, why is
it he looks different? Why does he have this rigid chin?
Why does he have this purple skin? This man has
always been Oh yeah, he's always been. It's just him.
It was just him and his brother, and then he
always looked different and he was picked on. So he
was basically an incident so quickly facing So yeah, so

(24:08):
you have all these different things. You know, he is
one of those. He's an offshoot as a product, but
he became the dev and almost type. But he wasn't
super Girl. Testing just was different. He just was different.
So you have these offshoots that are born. There are
different generations, like five generations of Eternals that have happened,
but there's a the movie is going to focus on

(24:28):
one particular batch because that way you can go and
spawn for a n E. MCU with the Costan version. Okay,
so we heard about Angelina Julie's character, what about Kamel's.
So Kamale is gonna play Kingo. He's a master swordsman.
He really is just like a real chill dude. He
likes making weapons. He's the things that he's gonna do
when he becomes a human in a sense in mental state,
because it's not like he's actually a human. He forgets

(24:49):
that he is eternal. So he's a master sworceman. So
when you have somebody like this who is weapons advanced
and everything. He has the abilities, but you're using Kamale
and Agiani, you're like, this is gonna work, but it's
gonna be funny. It's gonna be funny with with what
he does because there are other warriors. You have donal Lee,
who was playing Gilgamesh was also a warrior who has
been confused to people like Hercules down the line again

(25:11):
Greek and Roman mythology. You have him probably will figure
out how the iteration, well, the interaction excuse me with
him and Kid Harrington, who's basically the Black Knight, because
the Black Knight ends up having this relationship with Cercy,
who was played by Jim and Chan. So it's just
so many things. Like you have that character when you
go to a Kinggo who was just like, I live
by myself. I pretty much chilled by myself. I make weapons,

(25:32):
but I know how to use them. I still have
these abilities. I like to be reserved. You have Gilgamesh
who was more just like I really want to be
by myself. I really want to be alone. Chorus is cocky.
That's where we get the legend from Chorus copy, and
that's Richard. Richard Madden's character. Sprite is like a little
trickster that always likes to manipulate things like a very
tiny Loki with the with the long lasting Benjamin button disease.

(25:54):
So you have these different because Sprite is like ten
tho years old but it looks like a twelve year
old and Leah MQ who's play Anger, is as cute
as a button. Yeah, just as cute as a button.
So you have it's gonna be confusing for a lot
of people because everybody like, wait, what is all this for?
This is the biggest exposition plot device film the n
m c U has ever done. The word to lay

(26:16):
the groundwork going forward completely is there? Do they consider
Earth home or so you have the so the Celestials
made the Eternals that stay on Home, that's home. They
live on Olympia. They have their own spot called Olympia.
They have their home. But then you have the other
ones who lived on Titan Saturn's moon i Ethanos. So
they do call Earth home. So it's it's going to

(26:39):
be very There's a battle that had. They fight New York,
they fight in London, they fight all over. After they
realize who they are, they end up working for the
They end up working with the Avengers. The Black Knight
goes joins the heroes for Higher at one point in
a comic degoration. So you have all these different things
that can happen. Again, you're laying the groundwork for a
very long streight to your next two phases. It really

(27:01):
because I think I think if you go back and
listen to some nertives, and that was my guess, was
that we're going cosmic. They said it. Yeah, they said
it for a while, and you have to you know,
you think I'm sorry to cut you off. You think
it's simple with just saying, oh, but we just did
Captain Marvel and Guardians of the Galaxy too, and blah
blah blah, and now we're instantly cosmic, and it's like, no,

(27:23):
there's a whole bigger level of this that people don't
even get yet. So I wonder if like this is
all gonna lead to annihilation. I think everybody's more focused
on secret Wars because annihilation was easy. Everybody thought that's
what end game was. Would have been annihilation, everybody thought
that's what endgame was. And now that that whole thing
is through, it's now building up to this real big

(27:44):
thing that's gonna happen again, and it's not gonna be
just a regular at the end of phase four. This
is what's happening. This is gonna be like another two
three phases, everything comes together. So again it may be Annihilation,
but more than likely Secret Wars because of what we're
building in now, especially with the Marvel Studios Disney Plus shows.
My secret words are we talking about the scrolls and

(28:05):
super scroll Invasion Superscroll invasion. But again you have how
did the super Scrolls come? You can use this whole
thing from the Eternals with them making the deviance, with
the Deviance experiment on Kral Worlds, the croll the screen
of Kral Worlds to do those things. You can have
those things open that door, you lay the groundwork in
the foundation, which is interesting because they've kind of painted
scrolls in this like nice light so that you know

(28:29):
or they did. And I thought about that until I
watched Captain Marvel one more time. When you see technically
Ben Mendelson's character gets shot and you think he's killed,
watch his kid's face. His kid has a face like
the daughter and kill Bill like I will come back
and kill everybody. And that's how you turn somebody evil,
find the ways to defeat who you thought were the
good guys. You have those things happen. That's gonna be fun.

(28:51):
So can you tell me some of your favorite moments
of The Eternals in the comics, there moments that stand
out that we're like, oh, this is dope, this is brutal.
They have they had this movement where they fought, they
were fighting, and they thought they were fighting Kane the Conqueror,
but it wasn't. It was one of the eternals actually
making them think it was Wow. I love that. There's

(29:13):
like when you said before they even before they even left,
like they got in a fight with each other. That's
Kane enabled stuff right there. Technically, that's what it is.
It's always it's always a Cane enable a civil war
type thing before lack of better words, it's always a
battle within, and that battle within always has the casualties
being humans because we're caught in the middle of it. No,

(29:36):
I mean when you were like and they fought in
New York and like, how terrifying of a world to
live in, Like this is just so hilarious to me.
If like, if you actually considered living in the Marvel
world and it's like you just have people constantly like
tearing down bridges and I wouldn't live in New York
from home New York, I would never live in New York. Again, Yeah,
I don't live in any city, but definitely not New

(29:57):
York because that's where everything takes place, everything is happening. Know,
I'm looking at the news. People still live there, and
how is their insurance? Not like, how are two thousand
dollars for a studio? It was just an alien evasion
round the corner. But paying attention to that. But you
had had you have had them fight with against Kang,
You've had them fight against each other, You've had them

(30:17):
fight against Apocalypse. You've had them do so many different
battles that again, they did get recognition because of who
the characters are. They're just it's like, all right, this
is the eternals, this is Is there one or two
that you feel people really gravitate towards that stand out
from the others. A lot of people don't know the comics.
I mean a lot of people will go towards Chorus
because of his cocky attitude. A lot of people will

(30:39):
go towards they make, or towards giggl Mass because of
who he was, you know, compared to throughout history, all
the different ones, Samson, Beowulf, Hercules, things like that, um
a Jack. A lot of people don't know Cercy is
one as well, Um, the Black Knight. The only reason
I bring him up is because he's not an internal directly.
But his sword was actually in Doctor Strange. Uh, people

(30:59):
don't know that it was in the House of Relics
with Oh yeah didn't um. Scott Derrekson tweeted and he
was like, yeah, I'm surprised it took people that long
to see it, well because nobody paid attention to like
it takes those people who stopped, you know, stop the movie.
And he just pausitive and Hector Navarro man like every
time he want, what do you see here? What do

(31:20):
you see here? What do you see here? There's nothing
Hector Navarro doesn't know that he already knows, like probably
what phase? What or phase are we in? I think
he already he knows every inch of every comic ever written.
I wouldn't remember. I went to Hector's all apartment. He
has a comic books on comic books, on comic books,
just sitting all over the place. But you have these

(31:42):
characters who again they're not popular characters, right, but that's
Marvel's um success a galaxy. Yeah, well, I mean iron
Man to be honest, Like who cared about iron character?
Captain America just to a certain extent. Even Yeah, Captain
America was not a very prominent he was just Captain America. Yeah,
he wasn't a super like you got to have a

(32:03):
Captain America comic book. I almost feel like maybe they
had to do that with what they were going up against.
When you have someone that's Batman and Superman, which were
the most known, most distributed, most product place, like you know,
you just they were the icon. They were the superheroes
from the beginning, that you have to almost do something
a real little risky to take away from Yeah, casting

(32:26):
Robert Downey Jr. Is iron Man is the most risky
thing you can do, Absolutely very risky, and I think
he related to the character the most out of anyone.
I think if he was going to bring something as
a struggling alcoholic that needed a second chance, and he
found that in Tony Stark. What better person that can
play that than someone that's lived that life. Yeah, I
know that, which was so interesting because that was like

(32:47):
such a big part of Tony Stark's character is how
much of an alcoholic he was and recovering. And they
never really touched on that in the They teased the
demon in a bottle, not Iran too when he was
getting drunk because he was dealing with the poison and
from a palladium. They tease it, but they never because
it's again, it's Marvel, it's Disney. They're not going to
go deep into Tony Starks and alcoholic. Yeah, although now

(33:07):
they're definitely creeping into I mean they're they're definitely bringing
in stuff, and I think these Disney Plus series are too,
are going to I just wonder how far they'll go. Well,
I will say, I mean I think they might have
announced this, uh, I mean they they touched on it.
But the way that was that it was told to
me by someone who was able to be lucky enough

(33:29):
to go into the hive mind of Disney and get
like the phases laid out, um, is that you know,
they're really touching. Just like in the comic when Sam
Wilson became uh Captain America, there was the whole plot
about you know America not one Yeah, and they and
that's what they're gonna approach in the TV series. You know,

(33:51):
they're actually gonna go into that, which is interesting because
I thought they might have shied away from that. But
that that opens and forces a very important discussion, uh
that you know, MCU fans are now going to have
to look stare it in the face. Well, they did
let I felt like with Black Panther, they really let
them make jokes that I don't think they would have
been able to five years ago. You can do it.

(34:14):
It's open. It's they're like, hey, you can make it here.
If anything else. I think also Ryan probably had it.
Ryan Coogler had a big part in that. I think
that he was like, no, we're going to do this.
It's just one of those things too that I think, Um,
I think I've said it before. Whereas like, as much
as I hated how long it took, that's the only
way we could have gotten the version that we've gotten.

(34:36):
Because by the time Black Panther was out, Marvel was
in their bag a bit. They're like, we can take risks.
We've we've kind of mastered this kind of space, so
we'll let you know, Googler have the freedom to push it.
I feel like if it would have came out any earlier,
they would have there would have been a lot of pushback,
a lot of worries, a lot of this, a lot
of that but just I think as a as a society,

(34:57):
the zeitguys and as a company, they were just willing
to just give a little more freedom and it paid off.
And now it's because I mean, I'm sure we still
got a version that was noted down a bit, you know,
it just wasn't like fully you know, they they gave
him some wins. So too, I think it's gonna while

(35:17):
out because now with the chip on that, Now that
they got the chip, you know, they can't tell him nothing.
You thought they were calling people colonnazes before in the
first Just wait to what you see in this second. Oh, man, Ja,
can you tell everyone about a Jack because we did
kind of skip over her. Oh yeah, that's selling Hyak's character.
She is the leader of everybody. She is one of

(35:38):
those one again. She was just she's a man in
the comics, a strong warrior, dominant, powerful, has been able
to battle up against uh Urinos, who was one of
the other has who split off and has never backed down.
And so to have somebody like selling play play that character,
it's going to I cannot wait. Did you see the

(36:00):
saw the concept art of the costume, right, So it's like,
let's see what the cos players are gonna look like. Well,
just keep following her Instagram people, Okay, you're stalking of
her Instagram. But yeah, she's gonna be the one that
makes sure she lays everything down. We'll start figuring things
out as well. Again figure it out like again, her

(36:20):
identity will be taken away from her. She won't remember
who She'll be in somewhere like in Russia and won't
remember who she is until something happens. So that it
depends on also if they decide to go the route
of is the snap gonna do it? It's something else
gonna do it? You know, is the waking of the
dream and Celesti you're gonna do it. All these different
elements have to be put in a place to figure

(36:42):
out how do you make them remember who they are?
Because we're gonna see the beginning. We know it's a
Marvel movie, so it's probably two and a half hours.
The first half hour shows you the thirty five years ago,
the time back when everything started, gives you all that
shows you to split off potentially, like I said earlier,
the Thano's birth. Then we go to the present day.
However we go that way, then we see what happens

(37:02):
with the Devons how they come back, because they're still
on Earth and they come back, they still on Earth
anyar en dormant. They're like basically the Decepticons were in
the Transformer series, how they were there, but nobody ever
knew the Devons will be there. Then we figure out
how they come into it. Wake up the eternals, wake
up their inside personalities. Boom, we go into this battle.
We get Brian Tyree Henry who's potentially working, like I said,

(37:23):
as an engineer or somebody with a big gass hammer
alive thor here's his own hammer fast with a hammer
that is shoots out lightning, well, shoots out energy bolts. Yeah,
so you talked a little bit about their powers. Um,
I know they obviously have superhuman strength, superspeed flight, energy blast,
molecular manipulation, telekinesis, teleportation, I get it all control. Yeah,

(37:47):
and that's one of the things. And they have a
thing where they come to collect collective as a unimone.
It's a one giant celestial they I mean not celestial,
excuse me, internal they make which is like okay, so
they form up like Voltron, got it, let's make this happen.
So we'll see how that goes again. More than likely
that will happen if you end up bringing up the
dream of celestial because you need somebody just as powerful

(38:08):
as a celestial who created the eternals to battle the eternals.
Why do you think that people, I mean the people
that did read the comics, what do you think made
them gravitate towards the eternals? Somebody different, something different, something different.
And also those people who were interested in mythology. If
you're if you're a history buff, if you love mythology,
that's why you go in the thor that's why you
love everything about Asgar. You want to find all these

(38:29):
things out. So when you hear oh man, so they
were at Olympia, which is like Greece to them, and
they have all these things. Oh wow, all these things connect.
So this is Mercury, you know, saying this is the
god of the sun and who runs fast, and I'll
let You're like, okay, so I want to learn more
about it. But then you get that superhero element on
top of it, and so now you're like, okay, how

(38:50):
does this keep going? And at the point they kind
of slow it down it's like, all right, well, I'm
gonna go gravitate over to the different iterations of the Avengers,
or maybe the Defenders, or even the West Coast Avengers
or whatever else they may bring. The X Men, for instance. Yeah,
I didn't ask you up top, But what was your
first introduction to them? Me being at home at uh
me be at home, and after going to Walgreens and

(39:10):
buying comics on the racks, because I'd already read X Man,
I read Spider Man. I read all of them, and
I just happen to see in the turn. I was like,
all right, cool, my grandmother bought it from me. Three
all of let's go and so, because I always so
I would never be able to just go out. I
always told everybody I never went outside, just normally in
my neighborhood because I grew ucausey were always shooting. So
I buy comic books, and so I'd already read, like

(39:31):
I said, X Man, Spider Man, fantastic for all this,
got introduced to Black Panther, and then I saw this
when I was like, all right, I haven't read this one,
so cool, this is nice. Let me find out about
another one and another one. Let me go to the
comic book shop and so you read those. I didn't
stay fully into it. I read enough to like, yo,
I know about these, And then when I got this
Marvel Cosmic book and made me go right back and
research more again because I'm like, oh, yeah, we are

(39:52):
going to comic cosmic phase for the Marvel, for the
m c U and stuff like that. Can you talk
about some of their relationships with each other? Like I
said earlier, Uh, the Black Night and Certacy, they do
this thing called the Joe she Gat. It's like they
have a bond together. Uh. Icarus is Druid's cousin. Drewid
is played by Barry Kagan. I think that's his name.

(40:13):
I can't know if I'm pronouncing it right. But they
have relations a lot of my family, father and son, daughters, cousins. Again,
you have people like Yogamesh who just wanders. You have kings.
Some of them hate each other, they don't like each other.
Some I mean they they're meant to be protected, They're
meant to be this global force of heroes together for Earth.
But at the same time, it's like, if we're all

(40:34):
together all the time, I don't like you. Maybe they
shouldn't have made them so human. You know, what can
we turn? Did you notice her face? She was like,
I got this moment. I'm gonna drop it drop. That's
That's the one thing. There are two moments that no
one at home will get to see. One is that
moment where she had this face like I'm about to

(40:56):
hit your meat. In second, well, you were mentioning how
powerful some my Hikes character was. Danny was leaning back,
she was letting it wash over her, like, yes, just
give me all. You know, it's really weird. We have
to take a really quick break right out, just randomly,
and we will be right back after this. And we're

(41:24):
back still here, joined by Jay Washington. Did anybody ever
tell you have that quiet storm drive home night off
work at midnight voice? People will get that she's um
syndicated everywhere. Um, But Jay, what are some things about
the Eternals that people should know going into if they

(41:47):
don't know, or just in general that we might have
glossed over. I didn't bring up the fact that also
in the process of the mutations with the devins, you
did get the inhumans. So this movie actually is the
replacement for the inhuman Wait what happened with it's not
coming out. Yeah, you didn't see the clips from the

(42:07):
there's just one clip him remembering that was The New Mutants,
which is never coming out either. Yeah, there was a
cut scene where black Bolt has a flashback that just
looks so you know, the one where his parents are
yelling and he's like no, yes. Basically, so Asimo played

(42:30):
black Boat and his ability was he can't talk because
if he talks, his voice will just it's like the
voice that God, it'll just explode. So his parents with
chastise me about something against his brother and then do something.
He was like no and then just exploded against the wall.
But that sounds awesome, But the show was terrible. But yeah,

(42:51):
so this was like Grantedy and Humans were supposed to
come earlier. Was it ever released. Yeah, the whole eight
episodes went on ABC, and the first two episodes appeared
in Imax theaters and people paid like dollars to see that. Nonsense.
This was in Humans and the New Mutants also got
that never came out, that will never come up. Yeah,
it was supposed to be on the side they sent

(43:15):
me um. I appreciate it very much. They sent me
a DNA kit, which now I kind of regret because
it's like for the gifted. They do it for the gifted. Yeah,
the Gifted that was there's so many that was for
the Gift a lot, and the ext world was really
blown out. And it's funny because they had a hit
with Legion and seeming like people were digging the Gifted,
but it wasn't as like because it was it was

(43:36):
too much. We referenced the X Men, but we never
will see the x and like everyone, that's the thing
is like you can only visit the well so many
times before people really gonna want to taste of that
good stuff. That's how we Gotham was rough because it
was so anachronous, like like just so much stuff was like, okay,
this can't possibly make sense, Like how are you already

(43:58):
seeing poison ivy? Why is the penguin way older? Skinny?
If I need to tell you? Because you and I
are in a bunch of um and I'm sure you
are to j and a bunch of writing groups on Facebook,
and there was some dude that was like talking about
how someone like stole his idea for like a movie,
but also in there he was like and I had
this idea about like a show where Bruce Wayne is young.

(44:20):
I'm like, who wouldn't have that idea? It's literally the
I mean, it's the wildest thing to you ever think
that someone stole your idea that you built off an
I p that you do not own. Like because again
I also was going to pitch. I'm like, yeah, so
would literally anyone else. Because there's also Bruce Wayne when
he's old, an old man, there's Bruce Wayne when he's young. Like,
there's so many different and we have that Bruce Way

(44:42):
when he's all we end up getting Batman Beyond, by
the way, speaking of which the voice of Bruce Wayne
will be playing old Bruce Way. Crisis. Oh, I know
so much that's happened about that Crisis crossover. I know
so many people that are appearing that still have yet
to be announced. They're doing more than what everybody is
a expecting. Is it is going to be unique? How

(45:03):
like people are gonna pop in just for a hot
second here and there, and you're like, oh, so they
really decided to say this is every universe. So yeah.
One of the things I said, um, one of the
things too, like I brought up earlier is the Dreaming Celestial.
So the Dreaming Celestial is also known as tam Wood,
and it's to say he's the second host. He's the
one who made the Deviance themselves, so he created them,

(45:26):
and so he's buried away. He's hit like he's lying
just underground somewhere, and they find him. And because they
find they want him to basically say, hey, help us
defeat the regular the regular Eternals. The deviants want to
find it, and then the Eternals cannot. One of their
weaknesses is that they can't go after their creator. It's

(45:48):
like a RoboCop prime directive. You cannot go after you.
I imagine that that something happens there and then that's
the unimone. The unimony ends up allowing to do it.
They can't do it individually, so like as can't go
at the dream of Celestial, but the Deviance they don't
want to. They could, but they don't want to. So yeah,
that is one of the big things that is going
to happen. But again it depends on how they're gonna
take this. It's hard to say exactly where we don't

(46:11):
know the plot yet. All this is just assumption, like, yeah,
they can do this and do that, and do this
and do that because it will give you this, this
and that. But until you know anything, it's just hard.
Right now, can you imagine what the posters are gonna
look like? All types of space and stuff. No, I'm
just saying because that would be hilarious and I would
love that, but um no, I would love it if

(46:33):
it would literally just space and no, none of the characters.
But what I meant is, like you know, in the
Infinity War poster, it was like everyone that's ever existed
was on there. I think it'd be nice to just
with those just do like something splitting because you don't
like for those who don't know, don't don't understand if

(46:53):
one is the deviance one of these eternals things like
in space, things like that. So we'll see, Oh my gosh,
if they that people listen, people listen to this podcast
that I had no idea, people will come up and
be yeah. So anyways, Jay came up with that idea,
so you have to hit him up. At one time,
we got a email from Kevin Fagus, like, if you're
writing about everything everybody needs. We have like writers that

(47:18):
are at like Marvel comic writers and other people that
listen that I had no idea, and they'll, um, they
obviously know more about this, of course. But then but
then you know, we'll drop some heat on our Halloween
episode or whatever and stuff that they don't know. The
other topics they don't know. We cover a wide range,
not just not just a comic book, I p but yeah, okay, yes,

(47:42):
so so okay, so we have that. Is there anything
else that you feel people need to know about the Eternals?
This is their first obviously I'm gonna say this is
so they've mainly been in the comics and this is
their first iteration. Really, this is a first and foremost
on the in the film. Okay, because just again I
will always compare it to the way Guardians dropped when

(48:04):
you heard there was gonna be a talking raccoon and
a talking tree if you didn't know who the Guardians
in the galaxy, where you were like, this is not
gonna work. So the talking tree was Vin Diesel, who
did it in every Languge who went who went in
the booth on day one? And stilts now, which is
a true story. He walked in on stilts, but that
wasn't every record. No, that was just the first day.

(48:26):
They were like, you don't. I don't know if that's
going to sound the best, my man, But yeah, it's
really just make sure you understand. You can do some
research on it, but it's also knowing, hey, this is
leading up to something bigger, so don't go in like
I didn't. I don't get what all this is for.
Oh you mean you don't think that maybe the stakes

(48:46):
will be as high in this because there's everything else.
So you know, some people like, oh, well, I didn't
think I was. I thought I was gonna get this
and I was gonna get that. I didn't get this.
You're gonna get some Max. It's a Marvel movie. But
you may not get exactly what you're expected got you like,
you might not get the eternal story that you know
from the comics. That might not come down for a
movie or two. Right, you might get something. You'll get

(49:08):
a bridge version that will go Hey, like I said,
here's the beginning, here's your little fan, here's stands. There
you go. You got him. You're good. Now we're moving forward.
You get baby fans and that's it, and then you
move forward. You probably get you get the fight you
get the wakening them up and they're like, oh, so
this is this bigger thing that's happening. This may be
your your mutant post credit City movie. I think Thor

(49:31):
actually said about killing him as a baby and Infinity.
I haven't rewatched Infinity more lately, but I thought he
was the one that I think it was an end
game machine. But yeah, the time machine, Yeah, it was
the whole time machine thing. Yeah. Yeah. No. So Cosmic
ghost Writer is Frank Castle as the ghostwriter. When he
got killed, he sold his soul to Dormamo, not Dormammu. Um,

(49:55):
who's the underworld guy? Um? Now mom mels Mephistopol close
to its Mephisto. Yeah, souldis so old. And Mephisto became
the new ghostwriter. Then he like became a Galactus's Harold
and then so he became Cosmic Ghostwriter. Then he killed
Galactus and then he uh and then he said he

(50:17):
was going to go back in time to kill to
kill Fanos, baby Fanos. He couldn't kill baby Thanos. He
tried to like raise him as a good person because
of all the bad stuff that turn him into, but
it invents and he still ends up turning out evil,
so he tried to go back in time to kill
It's really it's a fun romp. But the newer version
is written by Nick Giovannetti and Paul Shear and yeah,

(50:41):
because he gets trapped back in time after that rum,
which like, uh, Nick coats, Nick coats, Nikki coats. Sorry,
I'll you know I love you. Uh. The first writer
hands it off like he ends and he ends up
being trapped in time. He's like, well, I'm just stay
in time because he wants to stay in time and
see if he can prevent his family from being killed. Uh.

(51:04):
And it's like a fun, wholesome romp. And also it
was real cool because that's when I was in the
room with Nick and I got to see the uh
the writing process of a comics. So like getting getting
to see that, seeing the early pins and learning that
and trying to, you know, uh, do one other thing
on the list of the many things that I'm already doing. Uh.

(51:25):
So thank Nick for that insight and all that stuff.
And check out Cosmic Ghostwriter. You know what's going to
be wild is I wonder if they all of the
eternals are going to have different accents because you have
Harringtons and you have so much. But they're all supposed
to be from the same like kind of grew up
in the same you know what I mean, So like
why does he sound British or what? Well, the thing

(51:48):
is with them being in these different areas. I guess
it's that whole you adapt to where you're from. Like
people who aren't from California Los Angeles now all of
a sudden they've been here for some time, maybe they
lose their regular accents and whatnot. So I think you
can play that that level, got it because him and
Tella Hikes do not sound anything. So yeah, yeah, which

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is like while everyone in Star Wars is like, what
British or something, isn't that well, yeah, the whole our
world is. Yeah, the galaxy is British, just like they
did in Krypton everybody was British. You just have those
different things that happened with this. It's it's a different one.
This is a book. This is a book. There is
the characters in the books who they set up everything,

(52:30):
they've been around for the longest. Eventually it come back
to bring me, you know, the Celestials come back. There's
this big battle with them against the celestials. We're not
going to get that in the film. We're not because
that's too much. That's too much, that's an entire that's
the entire phase by itself. We're not gonna get that.
We're gonna get this movie where it's gonna set up
these characters. Now, will they all just make them live?

(52:51):
Because you know, the m c u is has a
thing for all right, we gotta kill you off. You
gotta go very down for that because there's so many people.
Have you ever seen a gigantic marble poster? Everybody very
okay with people dying, Like it's just you can't say that,
what a cute sounding voice. I'm very okay with people dying.

(53:16):
I like when there's steaks, like when someone actually stays dead, which,
even though this is Comic Book World, says the dragon
ball Z fan, it's true, I guess the Jeta die,
you know, which you know, I forgot to mention that
in my geeking out about this small sidebar. But I
think one of the coolest things about the Cacarrot game

(53:38):
coming out is that they went ahead and put in
those fatherhood moments that I said existed between Apps and
y'all gonna have to play. It'll don't have to play.
Doesn't mean that they think that it doesn't matter anymore. Well,
I'm gonna get Goku daddy moment. No, you know the
best moment is that they added the d m v
C or you actually have to go to the d

(53:59):
m V that is that's oh they were they knew
that's like, um like that is real. Yeah, it's great
and they so so fans are getting a fan service there.
We go love it and we accept it and we
love it. Um. But yeah, I guess we will have
to check back and we'll have to have you on

(54:19):
our eternals episode when what is this strapping? Okay, so
we'll see you in two years. We'll see they like, yeah,
j was eventually supposed to come back, like we'll see you.
We'll bring you in for more mutant stuff like doing
this European comedy tour. So he can't come on the
European I wish I was doing European to go to

(54:41):
speak it to existence, buddy, you know, I want to
do it, not rather do just an Asian one. That's
why I want to go into Thailand and do a tour.
No I know comedians that have gone to Japan, Like
even some of my friends that aren't as well known,
they'll do a Japanese comedy because they love that. They
love American comedians and I actually know it. It's like
you would think, like, isn't there a language barrier? But no,

(55:02):
they actually know what. They're actually educated on like us,
they can. They're like bilingual as opposed to most of
Americans only speak and only think that that's all you
should speak. Other countries actually do their work to try
and learn other languages. But Jay, where could everyone catch you?
You can catch me in the streets now. You can
find me on Twitter and Instagram and Mr J Washington

(55:24):
m r J A y. You should know how to
spell Washington, my YouTube channel, YouTube dot com s last
J A Y Washington eight zero and the Mad Titan podcast.
Everywhere you get your podcast listening on, I get you
caught up on everything that's happening in the Marvel n
d C Live Action cinematic universes. It is barbershop talk
for nerds. I've been trying to get Danny on ever
Danny is two. Damn No, you just asked me, Oh
come on, I just asked me right now, Okay, I'll

(55:45):
do it. That was the easiest. I mean every time
I'd be like, yeah, should hit up Danny out here
working and doing like film out eight scripts at a thing,
seventeen auditions. You have to do that out here and
then you all will see one of them. I mean,
that's there's nothing wrong with it. Trust me. I know
I'm in like several pitch meetings for different things. So

(56:05):
I did it. That is one thing I love that
Lewis Tan, who has been in so many of these
different superhero things but is also now in Mortal Kombat,
is the lead in Mortal Kombat, that he was like, um,
I had so many almost He posted that like nobody
nobody sees that. Nobody sees all of the almost and
the near misses and the thing that you got called

(56:28):
back on but ultimately didn't get and the projects that
fell through you. They just see the winds. And so
I love that he posted that because it's such a
good reminder. Well, you know a lot of people think
that people only say that when they make some big happen,
so it doesn't really exist to everybody else, you know
what I'm saying, Like if a star says that, then
it's like, yeah, this happens. But if the average person
says it's like, well that doesn't you know, that's not

(56:50):
real life. You're just not working hard enough or whatnot.
I've had people who said, oh, well, you're just not
doing you're doing stuff, and when you have a know
what that means. You know that that isn't anything. I'm yes,
it is, because it's not rent right like I thought.
I thought I've had a couple of things. I thought
I had a couple of pilots and I got told
by my agent it was like, they love you, They're
bringing you back for the screen tasks. And then I

(57:11):
get nothing, and I was like, are you serious? So
I can believe understand that you have to make a
lot of your own stuff out here. It's a lot.
But yeah, so that's why I mean, that's what I
say about you know, just I know how busy you are.
I know what if he's out here to do and
I follow both of you because I just want to
be like, yeah, I want to grow up, but yeah,
just that and the Latina A five for sassy Latina

(57:35):
who will go with anybody on Twitter real quick, who
will go at people with a heartbeat. But also yeah,
next week, this week when coming up, when it comes out,
I will be in Salt Lake City for fan Ex
Salt Lake Comic Convention. They're bringing me out again to
do a couple of panels. I don't know. I don't
know if I have Benedict, Juan Magana, Wayne or the
Power Rangers. Yet they tell me I've got one of
the three of them, so it's gonna be fun. Yeah. Um,

(57:59):
I'm at is Danny Fernandez on all the things. Yeah,
be nice to me when you tweet at me, that's great.
I we love talking to people. I just uh, you know,
be kind, to be kind to each other. Um. What
else we have nerd We have t public dot com
slash Nerdificent for merch. If you get some merch, tag

(58:19):
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Because sometimes we don't always see what y'all send to
our Nerdificent page. We try to keep up as much
as possible with it. But definitely you can always tag
our personal pages and we will for sure see it
because we live online and we see a lot of things. Yeah. Yeah,
and you know me if you are away on Twitter
and Instagram. If he's on Twitch, don't forget the slide

(58:41):
the re up those Twitch prime subs, you gotta do
it every month. They don't let it recur. So if
you listen, you're like, oh, snap, I ain't seeing if
he's faced while he played video games this month. Come
back here with that Twitch primes up and um on Thursday.
If you're into sneakers and like hearing me talk about sneakers,
definitely tune in on Thursdays on Twitch. We've been on
the front. Hey, so you can just go to twitch
dot tv and you'll spind me fresh stock. We're talking

(59:04):
stinkers in all different types of stuff, So thank you.
But following on this socials for updates on any shows
and all that, because I never put it in my calendar.
Al Right, I forgot to say, alb at New York
Comic Con, I can't announce my panels yet, but I
will post them soon. So if you're going to be
a new at Comic Con, I will also be there.
We'll see if I'll be there. All right, Let's get

(59:26):
out of here, all right, y'all, Thanks for listening. Stay