October 22, 2019 • 52 mins
Spooktober continues on this week's Nerdificent with the scariest doll in horror, Chucky! Dani and Ify are joined by writer Joan Ford to discuss the Child's Play franchise! From the first appearance of Chucky to his many reincarnations and cast of characters, all the dolls come out to play on this spooky episode of Nerdificent!
FOOTNOTES:
Child's Play (1988) review by Roger Ebert
Child's Play (2019) review by Peter Debruge for Variety
Why People Are So Annoyed That There's A New 'Child's Play' Film
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hey everybody, and welcome to another episode of Nerdifficent. I
am your host if you are away, and sitting across
from me as always is Danny Fernandez. I can't believe
that October is already. It's winding down. I'm not ready.
Do you know what I'm doing for Halloween? Iffie, Oh
my gosh. Okay, Well they don't listen, so they won't know.
(00:30):
But I'm surprising my niece and nephew. I'm flying to
see them and I'm dressing up as Selena and I'm
gonna go trick or treating with them as Selena. I'm
so excited. I got her purple outfit, I got a
glitter microphone. I'm doing it soon. You're gonna They're gonna
be at the age where you're gonna go boom Selena.
They're like, go, man, You're never I'm kidding. I've repped
(00:52):
for all Latina's but Selena the O g Selena. Um,
but with us today. Someone that loves Halloween also so excited.
She is a writer for Thundercat's Roar. She's also a
writer and performed at uc B. It is Joan Ford.
Thanks for having me, of course. Wow do you think
I feel like even Selena Gomez might be a little
(01:12):
like how older you're right? Three? Are they going to
know who's amez? Is? They know mo Wanna? That's about it.
That's Jojo seems to be like the new budding pop
star of the like past, whatever is after Zoomers, that's us. Yeah,
I forgot that name. Yeah, they switched it too and so,
(01:33):
but now there's Zumors because humors are are like fighting
with boomers, right, we needed that rhyme, so zoomer. I
thought you were going to say they switched it to
Zoomers because of Jabuki and he. Anytime I think of
Generation Z, I think of him. He's like the generation
right below us. Yeah, he represents he's their spokesperson. He's
going to be where we are on the millennial spectrum
(01:55):
in a few years because we're old millennials, like you know, no,
we're younger millennial because millennials go you and I or
we're mid millennials. I'm old millennial. I'm like, I'm like
at that time, I'm like like kind of on the
cost of Gen X and ben millennial. I won't say
we're on the cusps to never ever deals too much
but the cost somewhere on the cousp oh Man. Well,
(02:18):
you know we always start our pod talking about what
we're geeking out about this week. Uh, you know about
Oh my gosh. Well it kind of hinted at it
a week before, but now you can officially watch it.
It's the Casta Grandes. It is on Nickelodeon. Um, please
go check it out. I just want as many eyeballs
on this show because it really helps us continue to
(02:39):
tell them that, you know, we are an audience. We
are watching a lot of Latin X stories. Also says Monos,
which I talked about. I can't remember if I talked
about on this podcast, but I definitely tweeted about it. Uh.
It is an original anime by Viz and it is Mexican,
so it follows three orphans in nineteen seventies Mexico. Danny
(03:01):
Trejo is in it, our friend Johnny Cruise is in it. Also,
my culture is in it. It's really cool. It's super brutal.
If you're looking for a new horror anime, it definitely
has a lot of horror supernatural elements to it, so
check it out. Both of those things rapper stories. I
think today even though this is a week in advance,
but today was the last day of Hispanic Heritage Month,
(03:21):
so how to rep how to rep? Yeah, And for me,
it's a new game by five or five Games called Indivisible,
which is a it's like a cool new take. It's
like a part platform or part RPG. It's very fun
to play. Appellated on stream earlier this week. But yeah,
the it uses like gorgeous two D graphics mixed with like,
(03:45):
um like three D graphics, and the like lead character
it seems like she's some type of South Asian. She
definitely sounds like she has an Indian accent. The names
sound very like Indian. So that's real cool, very diverse
right off the start, uh, and all these cool characters,
you know. And I'm only at the tip of the
iceberg of the game. But it's super fun Indivisible. It's
(04:08):
out now fairly cheap too, so check that out. Um. Okay,
guess for me kind of like easing into like the
Halloween spirit. I just finished a novel I really loved
called My Best Friends Exorcism Um. It was written by
Grady Hendricks, who, like I think, a couple of years prior,
had a big hit with a book called Um Horror Store.
(04:28):
It was like a horror story. It's like a haunted
house and an ikea that was very fun. But this
is a it's the story of like, uh, two high
school girls in like late eighties North Carolina who are
like really tight and then one of them gets possessed
by the devil and um, it's it's it sounds very
(04:50):
like kind of like hokey and b great horror going
into it, but it's like it ends in this very
like it becomes and and ends as this very like
surprisingly moving and trip you to like the strength of
female friendship and how that is kind of what you know,
that's the thing that kind of is able to well,
I don't want to spoil it, but like it's kind
of lesser. It's an extortent story that's really about relying
(05:13):
less on like the power of religion in Christ and
more on like the personal bond these two girls have.
It's like surprisingly moving and like I and all at
the same time being like a very like gross like
a fun gross out horror story. So recommend that if
you want to get some like fun light Halloween reading.
And I highly recommend my best friend's Exorcism and so
(05:34):
cool in the Horror Store sounds really funny. Yeah, it's
really clever author. It's a he's a I like him
a lot. Um and I think I think Horror Store
got like bought it to be. It's was supposed to
be a movie. But that's so funny. I think it's Yeah,
that's that's a movie. I want to see horror movie.
And an Ike Yeah yeah yeah, Um, well we are
talking about something a other horror related yeah, and also
(05:56):
semi retail related. Yeah, very retail. Yeah, it's like Mattel yeah. Uh.
And that is Child's Play, Jonah. I just wanted to know,
like you are. We were asking people like what is
their horror thing, you know, out of our friends, and
you immediately said Child's Play? What like gravitated you towards it? Well,
(06:18):
I say my, like, uh like my my, the story
of my love affair with the Child's Play franchise or
I guess the Chucky franchise, because they kind of like
split into two different things. Um, it's kind of like
in two parts, like one is just like it was
something I watched a lot as a kid. You know,
it was a horror franchise. It was just like on
all the time when I was a kid, and I
(06:38):
just really enjoyed them um as like good fun, like
scary experiences. I think Chucky is maybe like the best
of like the eighties Slashers. I think he like holds
up the best um out of like that whole crew
of like Freddie and Jason and Pinhead Um. I would
I would say, I say, I'd say that, Yes, I'm
gonna I'm gonna make that bold of acclaim Chucky chucking
(06:58):
my face, Chucky guy stand Chucky, Like I feel like
we need to have people repping each We'll have to
do that for a episode. So funny because since I've
been doing like the thirsty horror tweets, I've been researching
a lot of horror film films, and like the joke
I did today is kind of a deep cut that
I think no one's gonna get. But the joke of
it is the kind of like bad writing of this.
(07:20):
And it's Um from hell Raiser and it's the female
sena Byte whose name is female and just the female
that's the name, and so like the joke of it
is like she's like, you don't even know my name,
And it was like I thought your name was female
Seno Bite and there's and I was in the wiki
and they're like for the female Sena Byte in um
(07:41):
hell Raiser something like oh the revel of Revelation or something,
click this and I clicked this, and it's another female
Sena Bte whose name is just female and so so
there's two characters and that's like that's the name. Meanwhile,
you have like the chatter like a chatter butter ball.
(08:01):
Everyone has a name except for this female Cena. It's
very weird c D the center bite with CDs in
his head. Yeah yeah, um yeah. They all have very
distinct like cool personalities and the female just the female. Um.
But um. But then I'd say, like I recently gravitated
back towards like The Child's Play a franchise because um,
(08:24):
and this is something I didn't know growing up, but like, uh,
the Child's Play was the original The first script was
written by a mandate on Don Mancini, who like who
since pretty much like the first movie came out in
the eighties, he's been like an out like gay man um.
And I'd say, as the franchise has progressed, like he's
he's been like like injecting more and more like queer
(08:45):
characters and queer themes into the films um some like
you know, and sometimes I will admit in like kind
of like messy, not the most like you know, the
messy kind of the best way he could at the time.
But I still think it's fascinating to like kind of
creators stay with a franchise that long because he's been
with all of them except this most recently Boot, and
(09:06):
like allowing himself to kind of like inject more and
more of like you know, his queer identity and just
like overall the things things that matter to him, like
into the franchise where and like you know, the like
the franchise has even become like pret like trans inclusive
or at least attempting to like like through the guys
of like you know this like or through the filter
(09:29):
of this like Killer Doll like talk about things like
gender fluidity and um, you know, being true to ourselves.
Are are like ourselves and like what bodies do we
belong in? Um? Like I said, it can be messy
and and you know not that maybe the best discussion
of it in cinema, but I still love that it's there,
and I still love that. It's it's something that's like
I feel like it's almost like as I have kind
(09:50):
of come into my own core identity. It's a franchise
that I love has also done that. That's something I
had to are. Do you see that Child's Play is
your favorite out of all of them the nineteen eight film, Yes,
I would say definitely. I think there might be like
there's like a few front like you know, there are
a few Nightmaring on Elm Streets. I really love, like
Nightmaring Realm Street three I think is really fantastic. UM.
(10:12):
But and like I have a weird like soft spot
for the Hell Raising Movies two just because they're so bizarre.
But like, I think Child's Play UM is just in
all respects kind of like just holds up best as
a franchise. I think it's like just from a story's
telling telling standpoint, it's like evolved and kind of like
change and that's always kept it interesting. Um. Chucky has
(10:34):
remained I think, like a fun interesting character. Like I think,
you know, he kind of went through the same evolution
that like Freddie did, going from like just villain to
kind of like the comedic centerpiece of these films. But
like I feel like Chucky like survive that uh that
evolution a little better and that he can like you
know he I think he straddles the line better between
being like scared, between being scary and funny, where it's
(10:57):
like Freddie just kind of became a like you know,
like a late I talked to your home like happens
to kill his guests. Um so yeah, so and and
you know, I still go back and I like watching
that first Child to play like I was. I tried
to rewatch many of them, and I could go building
up to this because you know it's Halloween, and I
was like, this is gonna be my Halloween rewatch for
the year, and like the first one is like legit
(11:18):
still like legit scary, like it's it. I you know,
I feel like part of it is just because like Chucky,
like Chuck, he's like a like just like jump scare
in like personified, like because like pops out of places.
And even when he's on screen, he's not doing anything
like you're just like I know you're gonna do something,
you know, You're like I know, yeah, so so uh yeah,
(11:40):
I'd say it's still it's my favorite of of all
of them. Yeah, So just hopping into Child's Play. It
was released November nine and it was directed by Tom Holland,
and I was so funny. I thought I shared my
name with someone, but that to me is hilarious. For
those keeping count, that is nine months this world you
(12:01):
don't even care about me. Also being in that year,
I I did the Math for my birthday and I
was going to do yours next. Along with the film
gaining a cult following immediately, that's pretty cool. Um, the
box office success, bond of media franchise that include a
series of six sequels, merchandise, comic books. Uh, and then
of course the remake in twenty nineteen. So for people
(12:23):
that haven't seen it, can you just go over? Kind
of like the the big points of the film, the
Child's Play one, Um, there is we open on it's
a dark and stormy night over the Chicago river front, um,
like you know, and there's a big abandoned ware high
house where well we open on a shootout. Um. Charles
(12:44):
Charles Lee Ray, the Lake Shore Strangler, UH, is running
from the cops, he gets shot, he goes in this
where oh this toy star because you know, I'm pretty
sure that the Chicago riverfront is full of toy stars. Um.
Uh puts his soul into the body of a good
guy doll, which is pretty much a pair like, Oh yeah,
(13:04):
it's a parody of Uh. I don't know if you
remember my Buddy dolls, but yeah, it's a pretty direct
parody of like the my Buddy doll, which was like
a big thing in the eighties. Um, you had my
buddies and then if you were a girl, you got
like a kid sister. But anyways, Um, he puts his
body into the soul of this doll through the vood.
Through voodoo, the doll gets gifted this small boy, uh,
(13:25):
this little boy Andy for his eighth birthday. Um. And
Chucky starts killing people. Uh. In the in the body
of the dollar he Charles Lee Ray uh said tells
Andy that his name is Chucky. Um. He starts killing people. Uh.
Andy cannot convince anyone that his dolls alive except his mom.
His mom like starts to believe him, um, but the
(13:46):
cop on the case played by Chris Randon doesn't until
Chuckie tries to kill him too. Basically, it's like a
raise against time because the at least at this point
in the franchise, is the way the way voodoo rule
his work is that uh if so you pass your
body into something and then the first person you like
(14:08):
tell like, hey, like I am actually this guy like
I with the first person that he would say like, hey,
my name is Charles Lee Ray too. That's the only
human body he could transfer his soul into for some reason.
Um so so uh yeah so he so now and
he's the only person that he can transfer a soul into.
(14:28):
Um and uh yeah. It ends with this like very
fun like he kills a bunch of people and with
very fun like scary um where like kind of like
one of those like you keep thinking he's dead, but
he keeps coming back in like continuously more like burnt
degraded forms um until his mom like shoots it in
the face. And that's like most of Child's play. That's
(14:49):
child play? Is that a good rundown? Yes? Yeah, perfect one?
And then the sequel is where it takes place in
that r OTC camp. Right, No, that's the that's child
play three so many which which one is the child's
play too? Child's play too is uh, it's kind of
as you know, and he's now in a foster home.
(15:12):
His mom is is in a never see a mental
in terminators. Yes, although we never we never we never
never seen. Oh, the mom is just gone. She's just
because people don't believe her. Yes, she she stood by
her son like and said like, yes, this doll was
trying to kill people. And everyone was like alright, and
then like the sun is safe but you yeah, yeah. So, um,
(15:36):
he's taken to a foster home. It's kind of a
little bit the same movie over again. He gets a
he gets new foster parents at Chucky kills Uh. He
goes to school. But my favorite thing about this movie
is that, like in this one, Andy's like attitude has
just changed, Like he's very like defeated. He's just like Chuck,
He's gonna get me. Like he's not very defiant. Um,
(15:58):
he's like like no child like like but Chucky kills
his his teacher before. Like another good seeing that movie
is Chucky is like Andy's in school and then Chucky
like takes his test and writes on it like and
it turns into the teacher and the teachers like why
you're you're in detention. It's like I don't even see
(16:19):
how that served like chucky. He was like, I'm just
sing this it was such a big deal when I
was a little like yeah, and I would I could
only see like the edited versions on TV, so like
they never showed what he wrote. So he just like
the teacher, was like freaking out about something crazy. Chuck.
He wrote on that test, I know, I love the
(16:40):
people who have only seen the edited version of The
Big Lebowski and thinks the line is find a stranger
in the Alps. But the reason I brought up Child's
Play three is because the one thing, because we're talking
about how like it is so scary and reevented, is
that r OTC scene where he switches it with live.
Amm O, such a fear of my words, like oh no,
(17:03):
yeah we're using fake guns, but like what if they
they did switch it to live and yes, yes that
is a good scene. Yeah, just to wrap a child play. Oh,
he gets a he gets a cool like foster sister
this girl um uh Kyle um, She's like he's protecting
this one. It ends in a big like, it ends
in a big finale in the in the good Guy factory. Um.
(17:27):
And there's some cool there's that's probably that's probably my
favorite finale of the of my favorite finale of the series.
It ends in this big, like almost like Looney Tunes
ish sized factory and like Chucky gets like covered in
like molten plastic and like a ton of body parts,
like extra body parts attached to him before he's like
blown up with an air hose. Uh. Yeah, it's fun.
(17:47):
This wasn't the fan death yet. No, No, this fan
death is uh fan death is three. Well, fan death
is such a big deal because that's why the next
one he's all stitched up. Yes, and that was when
he went from like kind of scary to like terrifying
(18:08):
to me. Yes, oh you got more scared from stitch
face Chuck, which is an official Is that the community
called stitch face Chucky? Yes, because that's also the one
where they get like it gets like more like cantic. Yeah. Yeah,
but I guess that's Bright of Chucky's Bright Chuck. Yeah,
and we're going to hop into Bright of Chucky right
(18:29):
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We're talking about Child's Play. Nanny's here and so is Joan,
and we're gonna wrap up Child's Play three and then
get into Bright of Choke here. Oh yeah, Child's Play
(20:17):
three and that Uh, there's a there's a fair next
to the military school. It ends with oh, Chucky's in
a new body in this one, so he's he there's
a new kid that he can put his his soul into.
So Andy has to say that kid, this kid Tyler
from getting his body body taken over by Chucky. It
ends with him getting yes, as you said, he gets
I can't like, I can't remember what the fan was
(20:39):
attached to. I can picture very closely. I can picture
that scene of him like falling into a fan. Uh,
you know, it's one of those Carnival fans that they have.
You know, it's Rove and Border running the carnival and
Chuck he's all chopped up and we won't see him
again until Yeah, I know that's yeah, that's seven years later.
But the interesting thing about that is that like there
is like, even though think it was like Child's Play
(21:01):
two comes out in ninety and Child's Play one comes
out in three comes out of ninety one, they leaped
forward like eight years, so technically that movie is taking
place in ninety eight. So like the it's like it's
a Tokyo drift style thing where the franchise does catch
up with its time. John, Yes, yes, So jumping ten
years from the original Child's Play, we have the bride
(21:23):
of Chucky um and if he and I at the break,
we're just geeking out about Jennifer Tilly, who we love.
It was a big crush. Oh yeah, just even the
doll version. I was so in love if he was like,
yeah that doll want that? Yeah she I believe that
doll was like model, like they model that doll after
(21:46):
Jennifer Tilly. So yeah, so can you tell us a
little bit about Tiffany. Tiffany is uh ex girlfriend of
Chucky's that we we've never heard of before. Um but
she um, she steal um the remains of Chucky from
a cop, stitches him back together. Um. And then and
then she condulso she she can sell the book called
(22:08):
Voodoo for Dummy Voodoos for Dummies, um to h to
bring him back to life. And um, yeah she her
intention is to get Chucky's so into the body of
another human than Marryam. But they have they have a
little bit of fight. Chucky kills her and then puts
her body into a doll, into one of her She
has a very extensive doll collection. She's into dolls, which
is like, well, you know, she's super into dolls, so like,
(22:30):
you know, why not just stick with your doll boyfriend.
Why do you have to put him into the body
of another dude? But yeah, Jennifer Tilly amazing in human
or doll form. Also, if you don't remember, one of
her neighbors with Katherine Heigel is in it. Yes, Katherine
Heigel is the Katherine Tigel is the like the girlfriend
girlfriend of the bull who lives in the trailer park. Yes,
(22:52):
um yes, Also chief Warren Kincaid is John Ritter, yes, um,
alexis um cat is in it as um. The person
that Tiffany is is seen before Chucky Chucky re enters
her life. And this one, yeah, this one was like
way more comedic. This was This is when we got
full like goofy Chucky. But it's still had like some
(23:16):
dark moments throughout it. Yes, yeah with the one where
we found out that Chucky is in fact atomically correct
because there is a full doll doll sex scene. Yes,
they totally forgot about that, yes, yes um um yeah,
and it's about how the other the other new thing
we didn't we've never heard of is that they're like
Chucky's human body was buried with an amulet that I
(23:38):
guess like now that amulet, if they get that amulet,
they can possess anyone they want. Uh, so they're gonna
so they they they kidnapped this couple um uh Katherine
Heigel and young Kavin Higel and her boyfriend who I
don't know who it was played by. Um, I guess
you know it was played by Nick Stable our faith Yeah,
(24:01):
known from such things as uh Santa Junr Descendant, but
not just Descendant, not The Descendants, not the outstander pain
film or the hit Disney Channel musicals. Oh my gosh.
I did want to say that there was a chain
back in the nineties called the Good Guys, and they
actually thought about changing their name because because of Chucky.
(24:24):
That's really funny, I would sailing into it. Yeah, totally. Yeah,
but I think they were getting a lot of like
prank calls and people like harassing them. My brothers and
I used to do that. We thought we were funny.
We would call like the in Sync fan club or
whatever those guys had, those people, Yeah, frank fans did
(24:46):
you call it? Like? I was Backstreet Boys, But then
they switched to in sc like eventually, but because Backstreet
Boys kind of just like weren't shelling out as much.
I think, like put that sounds bad, but whatever, Remember
Instinct got some like Showtime or HBO like special that
they did, and I remember watching that. I was just
I was all Spice girls at that time, girls too. Yeah,
(25:07):
but then they kind of broke up. They did break up, Yeah,
but I still still yeah yeah yeah. Um, I mean
I like I like the occasional like everybody or or
um that's the only time I was gonna think of,
but no Spice Spice Girl. At that time, Spice Girls
was was my dominated, my dominated, my hit clicks. Um,
(25:27):
that's whether things are called right, hit clicks. Yes, you
get them at like McDonald's. They're like a little disk,
like a little fake floppy disk that you could listen
to music off of anyways, Child Clay Child's play. Yeah,
I remember they are we talking the mini disc or
the clip disc the clip disk? Yeah, because I remember
when you bought the um Spice Girls like lollipops, they
(25:49):
came with a clip discs clip discs. Yeah, yeah, I
gotta enunciate, yes, yeah, yeah. It ends with Yeah, it
ends with Chucky and Tiffany being defeated in a graveyard,
but not before Tiffany gives birth to a little like
mutant dolly thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, that means, yeah, trying
(26:10):
to do the science of this, well, I do think,
Like in two, I think is when we find out
that like Chucky like slowly becomes the longer he's in
a body, this he slowly becomes human, And I guess
I don't know what the rules are. I don't know why,
like when he's an original human he can transfer his
soul into anything. But like once he turns in full
(26:30):
it Chucky, once he's he's Chucky is full human. He
can't transfer to say, I don't know that you know
my vodous because they already used all that magic to
tournament the human. They can't do it. Yeah, there's only
every every everybody only comes with so much voodoo magic
you don't get to it doesn't get replenished. Um. But yeah,
that's how Brian Chucky is. Well. Uh. I was going
(26:52):
to say that Don Mancini, who wrote it, wrote all
of these like you were saying, he originally wanted to
have multiple Chucky's yes and um and so pitch that
I think for Child's Play three and they ended up
using that twenty plus years later for a Cult of Chuck. Yes. Um,
(27:13):
but that's just you know, hold onto those ideas. Yeah.
Oh yeah, I definitely want to talk about because there
there was some drama with the reboot, but we'll get
into that when we get to the reboot. Yeah, because
now we're on the seed of Chucky, which is I
love I love ce. Chucky is a massive a movie,
but I love it. Um. It's about um, it's we
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we catch up with Chucky and Tiffany's offspring. Um, and
there Glenn is like kind of in Glenn slash Glenda.
They're kind of in a Pinocchio situation where an evil
puppeteer is is has captured them and it's putting pretty
on show like this' very like Chris angelized Cventrol question
(27:56):
is doing shows with them in uh London, but they
see their parents. They're making like Hollywood is making like
a Bride of Chucky movie with its starring the actual
Jennifer Tilly. Uh. Glenn slash Glenda sees this on the
TV and it's like, oh, those are my parents. I
have to go find them. Um and uh he takes
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off or they take they take off for um they
take off for America and we don't know how they
get on a plane. They just do it. Um and
yeah there they in baby for him this whole time. No,
they are like, uh pretty, They're like like like maybe
like if in doll ages, I would assume they are
like what they look like. General Levin, As far as
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these go, how would you like? Is this one that
people love? I mean, I feel like you know the
community better than us. I do think like this one
is one of the this is one of the few
that like I think only two of them kind of
bombed and child Child's Play three and this one kind
of bomb and I just don't I think, you know,
it deals with some pretty like you know what at
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the time was some like you know, unusual stuff for
I mean, for now now it's like pretty unusual, like
you know, to see like a movie of that scale
kind of dealing with you know, like the kind of
the conceit of the film is that, uh, Glenn slash
Glenda is born without like is born not untomicly correct.
They are born with like you know, what would be
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described as like Barbie r Ken type parts. So so
Chucky and Tiffany gettingto a basically get into a fight
over like is are they are they a boy or girl?
And they both like fight. They're both kind of like
competing to raise them the way they say they they
think the child should be raised. Um. And so when
it's so at times they are Glen and at times
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they are Glenda. Um. And uh. Also it should be
like important important fact like Jennifer Tilly is playing Jennifer
Tilly in this movie, who's she's trying to get in
a movie. She's trying to get into the the Rapper.
Redman is directing a like the story of the Virgin Mary.
(30:03):
Jennifer Tilly really wants to be in this movie, so
that's a big part of the storyline. Fun fact about
that is that Don Mancini wrote that part for Quentin Tarantino.
It was gonna be which you know, uh no shade
on Redman's directing skills, but that makes a like makes
a little more sense. Um and but Tarantino refused to
do it, which I think it's like you did little,
you did a little Nikki, you can't do it checking
(30:25):
come on, yeah yeah, so um so, uh so yeah
so uh so back to what but we're saying, Yeah,
the movie was not a success. I think it was,
but I think the community is really warm to it, specifically,
especially like I think parts of the kind of there
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is a like a big subculture of like are a
big like subject culture of like you know, queer horror fans.
So I think have like really embraced this. Uh do
you know there's a drag queen in San Francisco, or
primarily in San Francisco called Peaches Christ and she does
this like movie series called uh that they tend to
be like there's a drag show and then a movie
or and then the drag show is based on the movie. Um,
(31:08):
and she's a big she I think. I know, she's
like a big lover of Seed of Chucky. They did,
like they just did a couple of years ago, they
did a revival of it where she did on this
show based on the movie. So like, I think it's
something that has uh kind of caught on later on
and especially like been embraced by this like this like
small like sub community of the horror community. Yeah. Yeah,
(31:29):
I definitely remember that. I did watch this because Glenn's
face is a face you can't for me. And also
I remember Glenn has been in a few memes. Uh,
but uh yeah, I definitely remember, but I just can't remember.
It was one of those that kind of came through me.
(31:49):
Yeah it's yeah, you don't really rewatching it. I forgot
that the movie literally opened with uh with like come
maccovery and like come oozing down the screen. C. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like but I I um, it's a yeah, it's
a hard movie to forget. But um, I mean and
I sometimes with stress is that you know, I feel like,
you know, the movie does also like fall into some
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of the you know words tropes about that we see
about like trans or gender non binary people in horror movies.
You know, um it kind of like eventually it presents
Glenn like it's it kind of presents them as a
person with like kind of like a split personality disorder,
which is kind of like a aggressive way horror films
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that have tended to like to de pick like gender fluidity,
like you know, going back to like to like even
things like Psycho or that to Palma film, um Um
Dressed to Kill. But it is but at the same time,
you know, like I I like it for what it is.
It was a movie that like faced a lot of
uphill battles with what it couldn't couldn't do based on
(32:54):
like what the studio is allowing. And you know, it's
you know, I am a big believer in you know,
you know, even like even if it's not the best representation,
it was still like, you know, representation of you know,
my community of like the way I saw myself in
a genre I love, in a franchise I love, So
you know, I that's not to say that, like we
(33:16):
don't like acknowledge and d and like deal with the
problematic parts of it, but we also like, I also
like love that it's that it exists, and you know,
Glenn slash Glenda is still a character. You know that
I that that that I love and speaks to me
and like, yeah, just despite their their issues. So we're
moving on to the Curse of Chucky, which just I
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mean that sounds like that could have just been the
name for all of the Yeah, I was wondering why
I didn't see this one, but this one was direct
to video yeh, the next two or direct to video.
Cursive Chucky is a cursive Chucky was like dominancene E
being like because I think, like the this is like
two thousand thirteen, right, and like them, the franchise had
kind of been in like limbo um and I know
(34:00):
even he at one point was like, maybe we should
reboot it um, but eventually he decided that, um, it
was like, let's just like a back It's like it's
a moving the same continuity, but it's like kind of
like a back to basics, like scary like is Chucky
alive or not? Type movie? Um, And that also introduces
like kind of like the new protect like you know,
protagonist of the series. Who's this woman named Nika. She's
(34:23):
actually played by um Brad Durroff, the voice of Chucky.
He's played by her daughter. Uh she's a uh she's paraplegic.
I believe she's like she's like in a wheelchair. Um.
And the movie is about kind of like her like family. Um,
it's an all in one night movie. Uh. The mother
is killed after this suspicious dollar has been uh male
(34:47):
to their house. And it's kind of like a like
a murder mystery of trying to figure out like who's
doing this and like is Chucky really alive or not?
And throughout like i'd say, for the first like so
you know, three quarters of the movie, like it could
just be like it just kind of plays as a
potentially like a reboot, like you don't know if this
is even in the same continuity. And then at the end,
like there is a big reveal that this is the
(35:08):
same continuity, Like Chucky takes off his like mask and
he's still like stitch face Chucky underneath. Um and yeah,
and uh that's yeah, it's it's I really like these
last two, Like Curse of Chuck, he's like a lot
of fun. Just it's just like a good fun like
scary like Studio Haunted House movie. I like this ending
too because you know, spoiler, we're gonna spoil it. But yeah,
(35:30):
he ends up at because I guess, like part of
the movies, he's being mailed places. Basically, yes, yes, we
find out that he's okay. So end of really quick
end of Seed of Chucky. Uh, Tiffany possesses the body
of Jennifer Tilly. So now Tiffany is going around like
as Jennifer Tilly in this reality. But she they are
(35:52):
now like basically they're mailing Chucky to everyone who's ever
like wronged him. And so next step on that next
stop on that journey is like the is Andy if
who from the first film and but and he's ready
for him? Is Andy now an adult? Yes, it's Andy's
an adult and it is the original act because they
got a different they different actor who played Chucky in
(36:13):
child Play three because they wanted Asian up to sixteen.
But now it's they've returned to like the original actor
who played him in child Play one and two, who's
now like you know, aged up two. Is it like
mid thirties I believe, and he or maybe even literally
forties and now, Yes, it's that original. It's that original Andy.
That's so cool. Yeah. It ends with like like he's
like and he's ready for him, he like shotgun blasts
(36:34):
and right if he comes out of his box. I
love that he's just moving around like Sisterhood of the
Traveling Pants. Yes, yeah, just Spain shipped. We have to
take another really quick break. We're going to hop into
the rest of Chucky and the future of Chucky right
after this and we're back. The last thing I wanted
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to say on the Curse of Chucky is that is
when they had the Halloween Horror Knights Universal, they had
a Chucky's fun House. Yes, um, which is where uh,
Chucky's Fun House is like more directly taken from um.
Like it was definitely there to sponsor because of Chucky,
but the the attracting itself was more like in the
in line with um the end of child Play three,
(37:20):
because it was like a fun it was like a
fun fair like environment. Um. Also, um, Yeah, Chucky has
been a pretty constant presence at Halloween Horn. Yeah. I
remember last year. Oh my gosh they you go. You
went on their bus. Uh, They're like tram and it
pulled up and they were like a thousand Chuck. It
was all these Chucky's of all different heights and they
would like come and start walking towards you. A couple
a couple of years, a year or two before that,
(37:42):
they did like it was Chucky's Terror Tram and it
was like Chucky was like you were on the tram
and Chucky was like kind of like a juggle like
the Jungle Cruise House, like make cracking jokes, but also
like like he killed he had killed the guy who
was supposed to be giving it to our Um. Yeah, yeah,
I also wanted to shout out to the puppeteers. We
don't really think of them very off and it looks
like on at least for the Curse of Chucky, there
(38:03):
were one, two, three, four, five puppeteers. Um, so I
assume on the other ones too that have like Bright
of Chucky and um, the Seat of Chucky also have
multiple Yeah. Um, they're putting in work make him look real. Yeah,
because like uh, I mean even going back to the
first one, like the reason I read some of the
(38:24):
reason don Mancini like was like, I'm gonna write my
Killer Donald movie now. Is because he saw Gremlin's and
he was like, oh wow, Like puppeteering animatronics has evolved
to the point that like you can do this and
make it look like respectable and actually scary. Uh so yeah,
so like it that's a that's it's like kind of
the whole franchise in a way like was born of
like oh, like the talent and skill of these puppeteers
(38:47):
and Animatron and Animatronics have like evolved a point that
like I can do this story now. Yeah, so or
is it Cult of Chucky now or yeah now the
second direct video film, Cult of Chucky, which was two
thousand seventeen. That's a date I want you a year
I want you to remember because this is very important
into where this is the discussion that's it's going to
(39:08):
end up with. Okay, great, Yeah, So Curse of Chucky.
We're following Nika again. She is in an insane asylum
because she has also insisted that all these murders were
there were because of a killer doll. But we're also
kind of following this like other story, which is like
um Andy has now like, uh, chop the head off
(39:28):
of Chucky and is like torturing it, like he just
keeps Chucky as like a victim, as like a torture
victim that he just like he's just like driving nails
and kidding it with a blowtorch constantly. But while we're
that's happening. And also Nika is in this um uh
insane asylum. Um, she is if someone males a Chucky
doll there, And it seems like this Chucky is also
(39:51):
killing is starting on a is starting a killing spree
at the insane asylum. But it's like, how it could
Chucky be with Andy but all so be in this
asylum with Nika. And the answer is that we finally
got to that Chucky has learned how to put his
soul into multiple things. So now there are multiple Chucky's all,
I guess, all of the country committing all all kinds
(40:14):
of murders. Yes, um, and it ends with um. Also,
Jennifer Tilly is back in this one too. She is um, um,
you're just being Jennifer Tilly, I guess. But with the
sliver killer it's killer doll and her um. That one
ends with um. Chucky also possesses Nika. So now he's
(40:35):
in the body of this is what he's kind of
like taken over the body of this woman. Um. And
now like it ends with like Nika Chucky, which is
what the fans call her, Nika Chucky and Jennifer Tilly
Tiffany meeting up and like it's implied that they are
gonna be in a relationship. And like Chucky's kind of
like the Chucky's comfortable in his like he's like, I
(40:57):
like this new body, Like this feels this feels right. Um.
So that's why. Yeah, which has like a trans icon Chucky. Um. Yeah.
So they go off to commit more murders. Well there
are still like several Chucky dolls all over the country
of the world. Maybe. And um, also we get the
reintroduction of Kyle the the um Kyle the foster sister
(41:20):
from two is kind of brought at the very end
just as a as a as a like credits cookie.
But yeah, she's back. The same actress came back for
that too. So yeah, I like how they keep it
like and they keep the franchise like in the family
a little bit. Yeah. Also, I mean just think of
like now we have Annabelle and we have like, I mean,
there's so many things that he was. Chucky was our
(41:42):
first possessed doll. Yeah. Yes, so the first the reason
that you're so very important is because this was all
news to me. So when the new Child's Play reboot
was announced, it was a big controversy, not necessarily because
it's a reboot, which at first I thought it was,
but the Chucky community felt slighted because this was also
(42:06):
being done without Donci, without Don Mancini. Apparently he didn't
even know. Yeah, yeah, no broad deer off. I was
told that at one point, and this might have been
after the fan uproar. I read that, like Don mancin
they offered Don Mancini like a producer credit, and he
was like, I don't want like just like a like
a like okay, like get out of your credit. So
(42:28):
he didn't take He didn't take it, Yeah, because that's
the thing, because he's written all of these up until
this point, so yeah, it would be weird for him
to just be a quote unquote producer and yeah and
like and like that was when I kind of learned
about these direct video ones. Was because people were like,
the story is still going on? And the last one
kind of ended on a cliffhanger, so it's weird to
(42:49):
reboot it right now. Yeah, um supposedly, like uh, they
were talking about this. I don't know where it is
right now, but Sci Fi is doing like a Chucky,
a Chucky series to con tinue that for that franchise,
like now I believe, like I don't know if this
is like the official classification, but I think the way
fans kind of determined is that like that kind of
the new continuity is like the Child's Play franchise at
(43:12):
like the Bread Darroff ones, the don Nancini ones are
like the Chucky franchise. What did you first left Starve?
What did you think about the Child's Play reboot? I?
I was definitely part of the Chucky community. That was
like I was not I was not happy about it,
Like I didn't like it seemed weird to do it
without Bread Garraffe. And also like you know, just from
a personal standpoint, like you know, I and not that
(43:33):
I think this was like any of the thinking going
into the reboot, but it was like, you know, like
I like that child Play is a is a you know,
franchise that has been like created and like kind of
like controlled creatively by like like a queer creator for
so long that like and there's I think I feel
like there's so little of that in Hollywood that like
taking it or you know, not so little, but you know,
(43:54):
like at least in the horror world, you know. Um,
but I did go to see it, and for honestly,
like I because I think for legal reasons, it had
to distinguish itself so much from like the France, from
the other Chucky movies. Like I was told that Lee
I had heard that legally, like they couldn't they just
(44:14):
not only could they not use any of the existing
like Chucky mythology, which is why I think they had
to resort to the like Chucky is like an ai. Um,
they couldn't like have any kills that like at all
resembled anything from the other child's playing movies. So if
like Chucky kills somebody with like a nail gun in
a Chucky in in one of the other movies, um,
like this Chucky could never like killing one with a
(44:36):
nail gun. And so that like really like I think
like made them force them to come up with some
like creative kills. And there are some like really like
there are some really like weird like just out like
like crazy kills and those moves in that movie that
I enjoy and also like uh Mark Hamill, you know
kind of Braddorf Chucky is just like this insane like
(44:58):
kind of like this insane killer. Uh Mark Hamill plays
Chucky has kind of like like how like a how
two thousand ask um, you know, in like in robot
who like goes crazy specifically because like it's like, oh,
this boy is his best friend and then the boy
rejects him and he's like he's like a jealous boyfriend
who wants his like his best friend back, um and um.
(45:21):
So he plays it's a different slant on the character
that I that I didn't hate. I enjoyed some of it.
Let's realized. Yeah, it's not even like it's not a
soul in the body, it's it's it is a robot. Yeah,
it's like an AI that gets corrupted and it's like
it's it's like it's pretty dumb. Like is when you
think about the fact that the reason Chucky can continue
(45:41):
to go is because with the introduction of Ludo magic,
you can always make your soul go. Yeah, if they
kill this. There's no reason this other yeah, unless they
like it's like that consciousness is up in the cloud
or something like. It even opens with like the reason
he gets like the AI gets corrupted is because like
we open it like the factory they're building Chucky and
this guy gets fired and he's like okay, and he
(46:02):
like such like writes like coding into the doll, and
it's like, oh, you want to you're gonna fire me.
I'm gonna put some evil code in this doll. Well,
it seems like everyone kind of agree with you, because
score wise, it has five point nine out of ten
on IMDb, on Rotten Tomatoes, which is still technically fresh yeah,
(46:25):
and forty percent on Metacritic. Uh uh. But it did
make forty three million with a budget of ten millions,
so we might this might not be the end of
I don't know how they're going to continue that. But
but I mean, like I I was, I'm a big
follower of like horror Instagram, and prior to the movie
coming out, there was just a lot of like we
(46:46):
hate New Chucky, mean like lots of like being like
people drawing like like um, you know, like old Chucky,
like killing New Chucky, which I love, angsty like, and
you know, now I think about it, like I should
have some sympathy for this because like, because I was
working on ThunderCats, I was definitely part of a franchise
that like people were like no' like giving it no
(47:11):
no credit, Like I no, I'm not gonna I'm just
gonna like say I don't like this and never look
at it. You know what. I did the same thing
to Child's Play. I'm I'm part I'm I'm a part
of the problem. But I did go see it and
I didn't like, I didn't enjoy it, and a lot
of the memes like those means kind of I think
like the community was basically like, yeah, that's fine, we
still like what we still want Old Chucky. But you know,
(47:31):
this wasn't a bad movie. We had Aubrey Plaza who
was in it, also Gabriel Bateman, Brian Tyree Henry, and
of course Mark camel Plane. Chucky one thing that I
thought was really funny. So it was released June one
of this year, twenty nineteen. It was the same weekend
that Toy Story was released, and they really capitalized on
(47:52):
that because I don't know if you caught the posters were,
which was fascinating. It showed Andy because they have they
both have boys named Andy um and it was like
dead Woody like it was just like his you know.
They really the posters that they made were the same
posters as the Toy Story ones, like same background and everything,
(48:13):
but it was like of Chucky, like killing the toys. Yeah,
you know, maybe a little presumpould say, you know, I
think liked Toy Story four for yeah, Story four probably
made about like, like, you know, five million dollars more,
but I still admire I did like those posters. That
was fun. Yeah, I thought it was cute. Yeah. Yeah.
So it seems like the future of the I guess
(48:35):
we'll call it the Chucky franchise lies in sci fi,
and the future of Child's Play probably lies in oryan
pictures on what they decide to do. And there's a
big I know, there's a big part of the community,
not a big party. There's a small part of the
community that really wants Chucky and Nika's body to Andy.
So so I'm not a part of that community, but
(48:55):
I know that's that's that's a thing people really some
people really want. And by the way, just to answer
your question, or not to answer your question, but to
tack on when you said Chucky versus Toy Story, Toy
Story four made one point zero fifty eight billion dollars
versus Chucky's. Yeah, a lot going for it. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Well,
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also we didn't really tackle this, but there was a
huge controversy when Child's Play came out. There were parents protesting.
In fact, they actually went to the studio to protest
about it, which is so funny. It's like, I don't
know if that's the thing they would do now. I mean,
I guess I still have like one million moms and stuff.
There's definitely like I feel like the eighties was a
(49:38):
little bit of like the heyday of that. Like I
remember like they're being like urban legends about like kids
who like copy yeah, like blew up their cat in
the microway, they have to seeing Gremlins, And I think
all that was kind of just like hysteric, like hysteric
like kind of like an offshoot of the Satanic panics.
But I yeah, yeah, I don't know if any of
(50:00):
that was like proven to be to be Chucky's fault.
I don't know. Yeah, I mean that's the thing is
it's funny because like, yeah, the one that we see
is in a December of four people tortured and kill
sixeen year old Suzanne Kapper and were said to be
influenced by the movies because during the torturing, the perpetrators
taunted her by playing her a song which is high
(50:22):
I'm chucky want to play, But that just could have
been any song. Like, you can't take someone doing something
heinous and then like an element of it blaming it
on that instead of like, you know, the actual things.
But we've learned many times and times again that people
will blame anything like what's actually the problem? Yeah, yeah,
it's it's I don't know. I I don't know, and
(50:43):
I honestly don't know enough about that particular story to
like commented on fully. And I don't want to make
light of you know this, regardless of you know, what
encouraged it was, like it was a tragedy. But like
I do because obviously, like I think, you know, movies
and and video games that were like an easy escape
go to not deal with real problem maybe real issues.
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Thanks for having me, of course. Wow do you think
I feel like even Selena Gomez might be a little
(01:12):
like how older you're right? Three? Are they going to
know who's amez? Is? They know mo Wanna? That's about it.
That's Jojo seems to be like the new budding pop
star of the like past, whatever is after Zoomers, that's us. Yeah,
I forgot that name. Yeah, they switched it too and so,
(01:33):
but now there's Zumors because humors are are like fighting
with boomers, right, we needed that rhyme, so zoomer. I
thought you were going to say they switched it to
Zoomers because of Jabuki and he. Anytime I think of
Generation Z, I think of him. He's like the generation
right below us. Yeah, he represents he's their spokesperson. He's
going to be where we are on the millennial spectrum
(01:55):
in a few years because we're old millennials, like you know, no,
we're younger millennial because millennials go you and I or
we're mid millennials. I'm old millennial. I'm like, I'm like
at that time, I'm like like kind of on the
cost of Gen X and ben millennial. I won't say
we're on the cusps to never ever deals too much
but the cost somewhere on the cousp oh Man. Well,
(02:18):
you know we always start our pod talking about what
we're geeking out about this week. Uh, you know about
Oh my gosh. Well it kind of hinted at it
a week before, but now you can officially watch it.
It's the Casta Grandes. It is on Nickelodeon. Um, please
go check it out. I just want as many eyeballs
on this show because it really helps us continue to
(02:39):
tell them that, you know, we are an audience. We
are watching a lot of Latin X stories. Also says Monos,
which I talked about. I can't remember if I talked
about on this podcast, but I definitely tweeted about it. Uh.
It is an original anime by Viz and it is Mexican,
so it follows three orphans in nineteen seventies Mexico. Danny
(03:01):
Trejo is in it, our friend Johnny Cruise is in it. Also,
my culture is in it. It's really cool. It's super brutal.
If you're looking for a new horror anime, it definitely
has a lot of horror supernatural elements to it, so
check it out. Both of those things rapper stories. I
think today even though this is a week in advance,
but today was the last day of Hispanic Heritage Month,
(03:21):
so how to rep how to rep? Yeah, And for me,
it's a new game by five or five Games called Indivisible,
which is a it's like a cool new take. It's
like a part platform or part RPG. It's very fun
to play. Appellated on stream earlier this week. But yeah,
the it uses like gorgeous two D graphics mixed with like,
(03:45):
um like three D graphics, and the like lead character
it seems like she's some type of South Asian. She
definitely sounds like she has an Indian accent. The names
sound very like Indian. So that's real cool, very diverse
right off the start, uh, and all these cool characters,
you know. And I'm only at the tip of the
iceberg of the game. But it's super fun Indivisible. It's
(04:08):
out now fairly cheap too, so check that out. Um. Okay,
guess for me kind of like easing into like the
Halloween spirit. I just finished a novel I really loved
called My Best Friends Exorcism Um. It was written by
Grady Hendricks, who, like I think, a couple of years prior,
had a big hit with a book called Um Horror Store.
(04:28):
It was like a horror story. It's like a haunted
house and an ikea that was very fun. But this
is a it's the story of like, uh, two high
school girls in like late eighties North Carolina who are
like really tight and then one of them gets possessed
by the devil and um, it's it's it sounds very
(04:50):
like kind of like hokey and b great horror going
into it, but it's like it ends in this very
like it becomes and and ends as this very like
surprisingly moving and trip you to like the strength of
female friendship and how that is kind of what you know,
that's the thing that kind of is able to well,
I don't want to spoil it, but like it's kind
of lesser. It's an extortent story that's really about relying
(05:13):
less on like the power of religion in Christ and
more on like the personal bond these two girls have.
It's like surprisingly moving and like I and all at
the same time being like a very like gross like
a fun gross out horror story. So recommend that if
you want to get some like fun light Halloween reading.
And I highly recommend my best friend's Exorcism and so
(05:34):
cool in the Horror Store sounds really funny. Yeah, it's
really clever author. It's a he's a I like him
a lot. Um and I think I think Horror Store
got like bought it to be. It's was supposed to
be a movie. But that's so funny. I think it's Yeah,
that's that's a movie. I want to see horror movie.
And an Ike Yeah yeah yeah, Um, well we are
talking about something a other horror related yeah, and also
(05:56):
semi retail related. Yeah, very retail. Yeah, it's like Mattel yeah. Uh.
And that is Child's Play, Jonah. I just wanted to know,
like you are. We were asking people like what is
their horror thing, you know, out of our friends, and
you immediately said Child's Play? What like gravitated you towards it? Well,
(06:18):
I say my, like, uh like my my, the story
of my love affair with the Child's Play franchise or
I guess the Chucky franchise, because they kind of like
split into two different things. Um, it's kind of like
in two parts, like one is just like it was
something I watched a lot as a kid. You know,
it was a horror franchise. It was just like on
all the time when I was a kid, and I
(06:38):
just really enjoyed them um as like good fun, like
scary experiences. I think Chucky is maybe like the best
of like the eighties Slashers. I think he like holds
up the best um out of like that whole crew
of like Freddie and Jason and Pinhead Um. I would
I would say, I say, I'd say that, Yes, I'm
gonna I'm gonna make that bold of acclaim Chucky chucking
(06:58):
my face, Chucky guy stand Chucky, Like I feel like
we need to have people repping each We'll have to
do that for a episode. So funny because since I've
been doing like the thirsty horror tweets, I've been researching
a lot of horror film films, and like the joke
I did today is kind of a deep cut that
I think no one's gonna get. But the joke of
it is the kind of like bad writing of this.
(07:20):
And it's Um from hell Raiser and it's the female
sena Byte whose name is female and just the female
that's the name, and so like the joke of it
is like she's like, you don't even know my name,
And it was like I thought your name was female
Seno Bite and there's and I was in the wiki
and they're like for the female Sena Byte in um
(07:41):
hell Raiser something like oh the revel of Revelation or something,
click this and I clicked this, and it's another female
Sena Bte whose name is just female and so so
there's two characters and that's like that's the name. Meanwhile,
you have like the chatter like a chatter butter ball.
(08:01):
Everyone has a name except for this female Cena. It's
very weird c D the center bite with CDs in
his head. Yeah yeah, um yeah. They all have very
distinct like cool personalities and the female just the female. Um.
But um. But then I'd say, like I recently gravitated
back towards like The Child's Play a franchise because um,
(08:24):
and this is something I didn't know growing up, but like, uh,
the Child's Play was the original The first script was
written by a mandate on Don Mancini, who like who
since pretty much like the first movie came out in
the eighties, he's been like an out like gay man um.
And I'd say, as the franchise has progressed, like he's
he's been like like injecting more and more like queer
(08:45):
characters and queer themes into the films um some like
you know, and sometimes I will admit in like kind
of like messy, not the most like you know, the
messy kind of the best way he could at the time.
But I still think it's fascinating to like kind of
creators stay with a franchise that long because he's been
with all of them except this most recently Boot, and
(09:06):
like allowing himself to kind of like inject more and
more of like you know, his queer identity and just
like overall the things things that matter to him, like
into the franchise where and like you know, the like
the franchise has even become like pret like trans inclusive
or at least attempting to like like through the guys
of like you know this like or through the filter
(09:29):
of this like Killer Doll like talk about things like
gender fluidity and um, you know, being true to ourselves.
Are are like ourselves and like what bodies do we
belong in? Um? Like I said, it can be messy
and and you know not that maybe the best discussion
of it in cinema, but I still love that it's there,
and I still love that. It's it's something that's like
I feel like it's almost like as I have kind
(09:50):
of come into my own core identity. It's a franchise
that I love has also done that. That's something I
had to are. Do you see that Child's Play is
your favorite out of all of them the nineteen eight film, Yes,
I would say definitely. I think there might be like
there's like a few front like you know, there are
a few Nightmaring on Elm Streets. I really love, like
Nightmaring Realm Street three I think is really fantastic. UM.
(10:12):
But and like I have a weird like soft spot
for the Hell Raising Movies two just because they're so bizarre.
But like, I think Child's Play UM is just in
all respects kind of like just holds up best as
a franchise. I think it's like just from a story's
telling telling standpoint, it's like evolved and kind of like
change and that's always kept it interesting. Um. Chucky has
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remained I think, like a fun interesting character. Like I think,
you know, he kind of went through the same evolution
that like Freddie did, going from like just villain to
kind of like the comedic centerpiece of these films. But
like I feel like Chucky like survive that uh that
evolution a little better and that he can like you
know he I think he straddles the line better between
being like scared, between being scary and funny, where it's
(10:57):
like Freddie just kind of became a like you know,
like a late I talked to your home like happens
to kill his guests. Um so yeah, so and and
you know, I still go back and I like watching
that first Child to play like I was. I tried
to rewatch many of them, and I could go building
up to this because you know it's Halloween, and I
was like, this is gonna be my Halloween rewatch for
the year, and like the first one is like legit
(11:18):
still like legit scary, like it's it. I you know,
I feel like part of it is just because like Chucky,
like Chuck, he's like a like just like jump scare
in like personified, like because like pops out of places.
And even when he's on screen, he's not doing anything
like you're just like I know you're gonna do something,
you know, You're like I know, yeah, so so uh yeah,
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I'd say it's still it's my favorite of of all
of them. Yeah, So just hopping into Child's Play. It
was released November nine and it was directed by Tom Holland,
and I was so funny. I thought I shared my
name with someone, but that to me is hilarious. For
those keeping count, that is nine months this world you
(12:01):
don't even care about me. Also being in that year,
I I did the Math for my birthday and I
was going to do yours next. Along with the film
gaining a cult following immediately, that's pretty cool. Um, the
box office success, bond of media franchise that include a
series of six sequels, merchandise, comic books. Uh, and then
of course the remake in twenty nineteen. So for people
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that haven't seen it, can you just go over? Kind
of like the the big points of the film, the
Child's Play one, Um, there is we open on it's
a dark and stormy night over the Chicago river front, um,
like you know, and there's a big abandoned ware high
house where well we open on a shootout. Um. Charles
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Charles Lee Ray, the Lake Shore Strangler, UH, is running
from the cops, he gets shot, he goes in this
where oh this toy star because you know, I'm pretty
sure that the Chicago riverfront is full of toy stars. Um.
Uh puts his soul into the body of a good
guy doll, which is pretty much a pair like, Oh yeah,
(13:04):
it's a parody of Uh. I don't know if you
remember my Buddy dolls, but yeah, it's a pretty direct
parody of like the my Buddy doll, which was like
a big thing in the eighties. Um, you had my
buddies and then if you were a girl, you got
like a kid sister. But anyways, Um, he puts his
body into the soul of this doll through the vood.
Through voodoo, the doll gets gifted this small boy, uh,
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this little boy Andy for his eighth birthday. Um. And
Chucky starts killing people. Uh. In the in the body
of the dollar he Charles Lee Ray uh said tells
Andy that his name is Chucky. Um. He starts killing people. Uh.
Andy cannot convince anyone that his dolls alive except his mom.
His mom like starts to believe him, um, but the
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cop on the case played by Chris Randon doesn't until
Chuckie tries to kill him too. Basically, it's like a
raise against time because the at least at this point
in the franchise, is the way the way voodoo rule
his work is that uh if so you pass your
body into something and then the first person you like
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tell like, hey, like I am actually this guy like
I with the first person that he would say like, hey,
my name is Charles Lee Ray too. That's the only
human body he could transfer his soul into for some reason.
Um so so uh yeah so he so now and
he's the only person that he can transfer a soul into.
(14:28):
Um and uh yeah. It ends with this like very
fun like he kills a bunch of people and with
very fun like scary um where like kind of like
one of those like you keep thinking he's dead, but
he keeps coming back in like continuously more like burnt
degraded forms um until his mom like shoots it in
the face. And that's like most of Child's play. That's
(14:49):
child play? Is that a good rundown? Yes? Yeah, perfect one?
And then the sequel is where it takes place in
that r OTC camp. Right, No, that's the that's child
play three so many which which one is the child's
play too? Child's play too is uh, it's kind of
as you know, and he's now in a foster home.
(15:12):
His mom is is in a never see a mental
in terminators. Yes, although we never we never we never
never seen. Oh, the mom is just gone. She's just
because people don't believe her. Yes, she she stood by
her son like and said like, yes, this doll was
trying to kill people. And everyone was like alright, and
then like the sun is safe but you yeah, yeah. So, um,
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he's taken to a foster home. It's kind of a
little bit the same movie over again. He gets a
he gets new foster parents at Chucky kills Uh. He
goes to school. But my favorite thing about this movie
is that, like in this one, Andy's like attitude has
just changed, Like he's very like defeated. He's just like Chuck,
He's gonna get me. Like he's not very defiant. Um,
(15:58):
he's like like no child like like but Chucky kills
his his teacher before. Like another good seeing that movie
is Chucky is like Andy's in school and then Chucky
like takes his test and writes on it like and
it turns into the teacher and the teachers like why
you're you're in detention. It's like I don't even see
(16:19):
how that served like chucky. He was like, I'm just
sing this it was such a big deal when I
was a little like yeah, and I would I could
only see like the edited versions on TV, so like
they never showed what he wrote. So he just like
the teacher, was like freaking out about something crazy. Chuck.
He wrote on that test, I know, I love the
(16:40):
people who have only seen the edited version of The
Big Lebowski and thinks the line is find a stranger
in the Alps. But the reason I brought up Child's
Play three is because the one thing, because we're talking
about how like it is so scary and reevented, is
that r OTC scene where he switches it with live.
Amm O, such a fear of my words, like oh no,
(17:03):
yeah we're using fake guns, but like what if they
they did switch it to live and yes, yes that
is a good scene. Yeah, just to wrap a child play. Oh,
he gets a he gets a cool like foster sister
this girl um uh Kyle um, She's like he's protecting
this one. It ends in a big like, it ends
in a big finale in the in the good Guy factory. Um.
(17:27):
And there's some cool there's that's probably that's probably my
favorite finale of the of my favorite finale of the series.
It ends in this big, like almost like Looney Tunes
ish sized factory and like Chucky gets like covered in
like molten plastic and like a ton of body parts,
like extra body parts attached to him before he's like
blown up with an air hose. Uh. Yeah, it's fun.
(17:47):
This wasn't the fan death yet. No, No, this fan
death is uh fan death is three. Well, fan death
is such a big deal because that's why the next
one he's all stitched up. Yes, and that was when
he went from like kind of scary to like terrifying
(18:08):
to me. Yes, oh you got more scared from stitch
face Chuck, which is an official Is that the community
called stitch face Chucky? Yes, because that's also the one
where they get like it gets like more like cantic. Yeah. Yeah,
but I guess that's Bright of Chucky's Bright Chuck. Yeah,
and we're going to hop into Bright of Chucky right
(18:29):
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We're talking about Child's Play. Nanny's here and so is Joan,
and we're gonna wrap up Child's Play three and then
get into Bright of Choke here. Oh yeah, Child's Play
(20:17):
three and that Uh, there's a there's a fair next
to the military school. It ends with oh, Chucky's in
a new body in this one, so he's he there's
a new kid that he can put his his soul into.
So Andy has to say that kid, this kid Tyler
from getting his body body taken over by Chucky. It
ends with him getting yes, as you said, he gets
I can't like, I can't remember what the fan was
(20:39):
attached to. I can picture very closely. I can picture
that scene of him like falling into a fan. Uh,
you know, it's one of those Carnival fans that they have.
You know, it's Rove and Border running the carnival and
Chuck he's all chopped up and we won't see him
again until Yeah, I know that's yeah, that's seven years later.
But the interesting thing about that is that like there
is like, even though think it was like Child's Play
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two comes out in ninety and Child's Play one comes
out in three comes out of ninety one, they leaped
forward like eight years, so technically that movie is taking
place in ninety eight. So like the it's like it's
a Tokyo drift style thing where the franchise does catch
up with its time. John, Yes, yes, So jumping ten
years from the original Child's Play, we have the bride
(21:23):
of Chucky um and if he and I at the break,
we're just geeking out about Jennifer Tilly, who we love.
It was a big crush. Oh yeah, just even the
doll version. I was so in love if he was like,
yeah that doll want that? Yeah she I believe that
doll was like model, like they model that doll after
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Jennifer Tilly. So yeah, so can you tell us a
little bit about Tiffany. Tiffany is uh ex girlfriend of
Chucky's that we we've never heard of before. Um but
she um, she steal um the remains of Chucky from
a cop, stitches him back together. Um. And then and
then she condulso she she can sell the book called
(22:08):
Voodoo for Dummy Voodoos for Dummies, um to h to
bring him back to life. And um, yeah she her
intention is to get Chucky's so into the body of
another human than Marryam. But they have they have a
little bit of fight. Chucky kills her and then puts
her body into a doll, into one of her She
has a very extensive doll collection. She's into dolls, which
is like, well, you know, she's super into dolls, so like,
(22:30):
you know, why not just stick with your doll boyfriend.
Why do you have to put him into the body
of another dude? But yeah, Jennifer Tilly amazing in human
or doll form. Also, if you don't remember, one of
her neighbors with Katherine Heigel is in it. Yes, Katherine
Heigel is the Katherine Tigel is the like the girlfriend
girlfriend of the bull who lives in the trailer park. Yes,
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um yes, Also chief Warren Kincaid is John Ritter, yes, um,
alexis um cat is in it as um. The person
that Tiffany is is seen before Chucky Chucky re enters
her life. And this one, yeah, this one was like
way more comedic. This was This is when we got
full like goofy Chucky. But it's still had like some
(23:16):
dark moments throughout it. Yes, yeah with the one where
we found out that Chucky is in fact atomically correct
because there is a full doll doll sex scene. Yes,
they totally forgot about that, yes, yes um um yeah,
and it's about how the other the other new thing
we didn't we've never heard of is that they're like
Chucky's human body was buried with an amulet that I
(23:38):
guess like now that amulet, if they get that amulet,
they can possess anyone they want. Uh, so they're gonna
so they they they kidnapped this couple um uh Katherine
Heigel and young Kavin Higel and her boyfriend who I
don't know who it was played by. Um, I guess
you know it was played by Nick Stable our faith Yeah,
(24:01):
known from such things as uh Santa Junr Descendant, but
not just Descendant, not The Descendants, not the outstander pain
film or the hit Disney Channel musicals. Oh my gosh.
I did want to say that there was a chain
back in the nineties called the Good Guys, and they
actually thought about changing their name because because of Chucky.
(24:24):
That's really funny, I would sailing into it. Yeah, totally. Yeah,
but I think they were getting a lot of like
prank calls and people like harassing them. My brothers and
I used to do that. We thought we were funny.
We would call like the in Sync fan club or
whatever those guys had, those people, Yeah, frank fans did
(24:46):
you call it? Like? I was Backstreet Boys, But then
they switched to in sc like eventually, but because Backstreet
Boys kind of just like weren't shelling out as much.
I think, like put that sounds bad, but whatever, Remember
Instinct got some like Showtime or HBO like special that
they did, and I remember watching that. I was just
I was all Spice girls at that time, girls too. Yeah,
(25:07):
but then they kind of broke up. They did break up, Yeah,
but I still still yeah yeah yeah. Um, I mean
I like I like the occasional like everybody or or
um that's the only time I was gonna think of,
but no Spice Spice Girl. At that time, Spice Girls
was was my dominated, my dominated, my hit clicks. Um,
(25:27):
that's whether things are called right, hit clicks. Yes, you
get them at like McDonald's. They're like a little disk,
like a little fake floppy disk that you could listen
to music off of anyways, Child Clay Child's play. Yeah,
I remember they are we talking the mini disc or
the clip disc the clip disk? Yeah, because I remember
when you bought the um Spice Girls like lollipops, they
(25:49):
came with a clip discs clip discs. Yeah, yeah, I
gotta enunciate, yes, yeah, yeah. It ends with Yeah, it
ends with Chucky and Tiffany being defeated in a graveyard,
but not before Tiffany gives birth to a little like
mutant dolly thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, that means, yeah, trying
(26:10):
to do the science of this, well, I do think,
Like in two, I think is when we find out
that like Chucky like slowly becomes the longer he's in
a body, this he slowly becomes human, And I guess
I don't know what the rules are. I don't know why,
like when he's an original human he can transfer his
soul into anything. But like once he turns in full
(26:30):
it Chucky, once he's he's Chucky is full human. He
can't transfer to say, I don't know that you know
my vodous because they already used all that magic to
tournament the human. They can't do it. Yeah, there's only
every every everybody only comes with so much voodoo magic
you don't get to it doesn't get replenished. Um. But yeah,
that's how Brian Chucky is. Well. Uh. I was going
(26:52):
to say that Don Mancini, who wrote it, wrote all
of these like you were saying, he originally wanted to
have multiple Chucky's yes and um and so pitch that
I think for Child's Play three and they ended up
using that twenty plus years later for a Cult of Chuck. Yes. Um,
(27:13):
but that's just you know, hold onto those ideas. Yeah.
Oh yeah, I definitely want to talk about because there
there was some drama with the reboot, but we'll get
into that when we get to the reboot. Yeah, because
now we're on the seed of Chucky, which is I
love I love ce. Chucky is a massive a movie,
but I love it. Um. It's about um, it's we
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we catch up with Chucky and Tiffany's offspring. Um, and
there Glenn is like kind of in Glenn slash Glenda.
They're kind of in a Pinocchio situation where an evil
puppeteer is is has captured them and it's putting pretty
on show like this' very like Chris angelized Cventrol question
(27:56):
is doing shows with them in uh London, but they
see their parents. They're making like Hollywood is making like
a Bride of Chucky movie with its starring the actual
Jennifer Tilly. Uh. Glenn slash Glenda sees this on the
TV and it's like, oh, those are my parents. I
have to go find them. Um and uh he takes
(28:16):
off or they take they take off for um they
take off for America and we don't know how they
get on a plane. They just do it. Um and
yeah there they in baby for him this whole time. No,
they are like, uh pretty, They're like like like maybe
like if in doll ages, I would assume they are
like what they look like. General Levin, As far as
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these go, how would you like? Is this one that
people love? I mean, I feel like you know the
community better than us. I do think like this one
is one of the this is one of the few
that like I think only two of them kind of
bombed and child Child's Play three and this one kind
of bomb and I just don't I think, you know,
it deals with some pretty like you know what at
(29:00):
the time was some like you know, unusual stuff for
I mean, for now now it's like pretty unusual, like
you know, to see like a movie of that scale
kind of dealing with you know, like the kind of
the conceit of the film is that, uh, Glenn slash
Glenda is born without like is born not untomicly correct.
They are born with like you know, what would be
(29:21):
described as like Barbie r Ken type parts. So so
Chucky and Tiffany gettingto a basically get into a fight
over like is are they are they a boy or girl?
And they both like fight. They're both kind of like
competing to raise them the way they say they they
think the child should be raised. Um. And so when
it's so at times they are Glen and at times
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they are Glenda. Um. And uh. Also it should be
like important important fact like Jennifer Tilly is playing Jennifer
Tilly in this movie, who's she's trying to get in
a movie. She's trying to get into the the Rapper.
Redman is directing a like the story of the Virgin Mary.
(30:03):
Jennifer Tilly really wants to be in this movie, so
that's a big part of the storyline. Fun fact about
that is that Don Mancini wrote that part for Quentin Tarantino.
It was gonna be which you know, uh no shade
on Redman's directing skills, but that makes a like makes
a little more sense. Um and but Tarantino refused to
do it, which I think it's like you did little,
you did a little Nikki, you can't do it checking
(30:25):
come on, yeah yeah, so um so, uh so yeah
so uh so back to what but we're saying, Yeah,
the movie was not a success. I think it was,
but I think the community is really warm to it, specifically,
especially like I think parts of the kind of there
(30:46):
is a like a big subculture of like are a
big like subject culture of like you know, queer horror fans.
So I think have like really embraced this. Uh do
you know there's a drag queen in San Francisco, or
primarily in San Francisco called Peaches Christ and she does
this like movie series called uh that they tend to
be like there's a drag show and then a movie
or and then the drag show is based on the movie. Um,
(31:08):
and she's a big she I think. I know, she's
like a big lover of Seed of Chucky. They did,
like they just did a couple of years ago, they
did a revival of it where she did on this
show based on the movie. So like, I think it's
something that has uh kind of caught on later on
and especially like been embraced by this like this like
small like sub community of the horror community. Yeah. Yeah,
(31:29):
I definitely remember that. I did watch this because Glenn's
face is a face you can't for me. And also
I remember Glenn has been in a few memes. Uh,
but uh yeah, I definitely remember, but I just can't remember.
It was one of those that kind of came through me.
(31:49):
Yeah it's yeah, you don't really rewatching it. I forgot
that the movie literally opened with uh with like come
maccovery and like come oozing down the screen. C. Yeah. Yeah,
it's like but I I um, it's a yeah, it's
a hard movie to forget. But um, I mean and
I sometimes with stress is that you know, I feel like,
you know, the movie does also like fall into some
(32:11):
of the you know words tropes about that we see
about like trans or gender non binary people in horror movies.
You know, um it kind of like eventually it presents
Glenn like it's it kind of presents them as a
person with like kind of like a split personality disorder,
which is kind of like a aggressive way horror films
(32:33):
that have tended to like to de pick like gender fluidity,
like you know, going back to like to like even
things like Psycho or that to Palma film, um Um
Dressed to Kill. But it is but at the same time,
you know, like I I like it for what it is.
It was a movie that like faced a lot of
uphill battles with what it couldn't couldn't do based on
(32:54):
like what the studio is allowing. And you know, it's
you know, I am a big believer in you know,
you know, even like even if it's not the best representation,
it was still like, you know, representation of you know,
my community of like the way I saw myself in
a genre I love, in a franchise I love, So
you know, I that's not to say that, like we
(33:16):
don't like acknowledge and d and like deal with the
problematic parts of it, but we also like, I also
like love that it's that it exists, and you know,
Glenn slash Glenda is still a character. You know that
I that that that I love and speaks to me
and like, yeah, just despite their their issues. So we're
moving on to the Curse of Chucky, which just I
(33:37):
mean that sounds like that could have just been the
name for all of the Yeah, I was wondering why
I didn't see this one, but this one was direct
to video yeh, the next two or direct to video.
Cursive Chucky is a cursive Chucky was like dominancene E
being like because I think, like the this is like
two thousand thirteen, right, and like them, the franchise had
kind of been in like limbo um and I know
(34:00):
even he at one point was like, maybe we should
reboot it um, but eventually he decided that, um, it
was like, let's just like a back It's like it's
a moving the same continuity, but it's like kind of
like a back to basics, like scary like is Chucky
alive or not? Type movie? Um, And that also introduces
like kind of like the new protect like you know,
protagonist of the series. Who's this woman named Nika. She's
(34:23):
actually played by um Brad Durroff, the voice of Chucky.
He's played by her daughter. Uh she's a uh she's paraplegic.
I believe she's like she's like in a wheelchair. Um.
And the movie is about kind of like her like family. Um,
it's an all in one night movie. Uh. The mother
is killed after this suspicious dollar has been uh male
(34:47):
to their house. And it's kind of like a like
a murder mystery of trying to figure out like who's
doing this and like is Chucky really alive or not?
And throughout like i'd say, for the first like so
you know, three quarters of the movie, like it could
just be like it just kind of plays as a
potentially like a reboot, like you don't know if this
is even in the same continuity. And then at the end,
like there is a big reveal that this is the
(35:08):
same continuity, Like Chucky takes off his like mask and
he's still like stitch face Chucky underneath. Um and yeah,
and uh that's yeah, it's it's I really like these
last two, Like Curse of Chuck, he's like a lot
of fun. Just it's just like a good fun like
scary like Studio Haunted House movie. I like this ending
too because you know, spoiler, we're gonna spoil it. But yeah,
(35:30):
he ends up at because I guess, like part of
the movies, he's being mailed places. Basically, yes, yes, we
find out that he's okay. So end of really quick
end of Seed of Chucky. Uh, Tiffany possesses the body
of Jennifer Tilly. So now Tiffany is going around like
as Jennifer Tilly in this reality. But she they are
(35:52):
now like basically they're mailing Chucky to everyone who's ever
like wronged him. And so next step on that next
stop on that journey is like the is Andy if
who from the first film and but and he's ready
for him? Is Andy now an adult? Yes, it's Andy's
an adult and it is the original act because they
got a different they different actor who played Chucky in
(36:13):
child Play three because they wanted Asian up to sixteen.
But now it's they've returned to like the original actor
who played him in child Play one and two, who's
now like you know, aged up two. Is it like
mid thirties I believe, and he or maybe even literally
forties and now, Yes, it's that original. It's that original Andy.
That's so cool. Yeah. It ends with like like he's
like and he's ready for him, he like shotgun blasts
(36:34):
and right if he comes out of his box. I
love that he's just moving around like Sisterhood of the
Traveling Pants. Yes, yeah, just Spain shipped. We have to
take another really quick break. We're going to hop into
the rest of Chucky and the future of Chucky right
after this and we're back. The last thing I wanted
(36:58):
to say on the Curse of Chucky is that is
when they had the Halloween Horror Knights Universal, they had
a Chucky's fun House. Yes, um, which is where uh,
Chucky's Fun House is like more directly taken from um.
Like it was definitely there to sponsor because of Chucky,
but the the attracting itself was more like in the
in line with um the end of child Play three,
(37:20):
because it was like a fun it was like a
fun fair like environment. Um. Also, um, Yeah, Chucky has
been a pretty constant presence at Halloween Horn. Yeah. I
remember last year. Oh my gosh they you go. You
went on their bus. Uh, They're like tram and it
pulled up and they were like a thousand Chuck. It
was all these Chucky's of all different heights and they
would like come and start walking towards you. A couple
a couple of years, a year or two before that,
(37:42):
they did like it was Chucky's Terror Tram and it
was like Chucky was like you were on the tram
and Chucky was like kind of like a juggle like
the Jungle Cruise House, like make cracking jokes, but also
like like he killed he had killed the guy who
was supposed to be giving it to our Um. Yeah, yeah,
I also wanted to shout out to the puppeteers. We
don't really think of them very off and it looks
like on at least for the Curse of Chucky, there
(38:03):
were one, two, three, four, five puppeteers. Um, so I
assume on the other ones too that have like Bright
of Chucky and um, the Seat of Chucky also have
multiple Yeah. Um, they're putting in work make him look real. Yeah,
because like uh, I mean even going back to the
first one, like the reason I read some of the
(38:24):
reason don Mancini like was like, I'm gonna write my
Killer Donald movie now. Is because he saw Gremlin's and
he was like, oh wow, Like puppeteering animatronics has evolved
to the point that like you can do this and
make it look like respectable and actually scary. Uh so yeah,
so like it that's a that's it's like kind of
the whole franchise in a way like was born of
like oh, like the talent and skill of these puppeteers
(38:47):
and Animatron and Animatronics have like evolved a point that
like I can do this story now. Yeah, so or
is it Cult of Chucky now or yeah now the
second direct video film, Cult of Chucky, which was two
thousand seventeen. That's a date I want you a year
I want you to remember because this is very important
into where this is the discussion that's it's going to
(39:08):
end up with. Okay, great, Yeah, So Curse of Chucky.
We're following Nika again. She is in an insane asylum
because she has also insisted that all these murders were
there were because of a killer doll. But we're also
kind of following this like other story, which is like
um Andy has now like, uh, chop the head off
(39:28):
of Chucky and is like torturing it, like he just
keeps Chucky as like a victim, as like a torture
victim that he just like he's just like driving nails
and kidding it with a blowtorch constantly. But while we're
that's happening. And also Nika is in this um uh
insane asylum. Um, she is if someone males a Chucky
doll there, And it seems like this Chucky is also
(39:51):
killing is starting on a is starting a killing spree
at the insane asylum. But it's like, how it could
Chucky be with Andy but all so be in this
asylum with Nika. And the answer is that we finally
got to that Chucky has learned how to put his
soul into multiple things. So now there are multiple Chucky's all,
I guess, all of the country committing all all kinds
(40:14):
of murders. Yes, um, and it ends with um. Also,
Jennifer Tilly is back in this one too. She is um, um,
you're just being Jennifer Tilly, I guess. But with the
sliver killer it's killer doll and her um. That one
ends with um. Chucky also possesses Nika. So now he's
(40:35):
in the body of this is what he's kind of
like taken over the body of this woman. Um. And
now like it ends with like Nika Chucky, which is
what the fans call her, Nika Chucky and Jennifer Tilly
Tiffany meeting up and like it's implied that they are
gonna be in a relationship. And like Chucky's kind of
like the Chucky's comfortable in his like he's like, I
(40:57):
like this new body, Like this feels this feels right. Um.
So that's why. Yeah, which has like a trans icon Chucky. Um. Yeah.
So they go off to commit more murders. Well there
are still like several Chucky dolls all over the country
of the world. Maybe. And um, also we get the
reintroduction of Kyle the the um Kyle the foster sister
(41:20):
from two is kind of brought at the very end
just as a as a as a like credits cookie.
But yeah, she's back. The same actress came back for
that too. So yeah, I like how they keep it
like and they keep the franchise like in the family
a little bit. Yeah. Also, I mean just think of
like now we have Annabelle and we have like, I mean,
there's so many things that he was. Chucky was our
(41:42):
first possessed doll. Yeah. Yes, so the first the reason
that you're so very important is because this was all
news to me. So when the new Child's Play reboot
was announced, it was a big controversy, not necessarily because
it's a reboot, which at first I thought it was,
but the Chucky community felt slighted because this was also
(42:06):
being done without Donci, without Don Mancini. Apparently he didn't
even know. Yeah, yeah, no broad deer off. I was
told that at one point, and this might have been
after the fan uproar. I read that, like Don mancin
they offered Don Mancini like a producer credit, and he
was like, I don't want like just like a like
a like okay, like get out of your credit. So
(42:28):
he didn't take He didn't take it, Yeah, because that's
the thing, because he's written all of these up until
this point, so yeah, it would be weird for him
to just be a quote unquote producer and yeah and
like and like that was when I kind of learned
about these direct video ones. Was because people were like,
the story is still going on? And the last one
kind of ended on a cliffhanger, so it's weird to
(42:49):
reboot it right now. Yeah, um supposedly, like uh, they
were talking about this. I don't know where it is
right now, but Sci Fi is doing like a Chucky,
a Chucky series to con tinue that for that franchise,
like now I believe, like I don't know if this
is like the official classification, but I think the way
fans kind of determined is that like that kind of
the new continuity is like the Child's Play franchise at
(43:12):
like the Bread Darroff ones, the don Nancini ones are
like the Chucky franchise. What did you first left Starve?
What did you think about the Child's Play reboot? I?
I was definitely part of the Chucky community. That was
like I was not I was not happy about it,
Like I didn't like it seemed weird to do it
without Bread Garraffe. And also like you know, just from
a personal standpoint, like you know, I and not that
(43:33):
I think this was like any of the thinking going
into the reboot, but it was like, you know, like
I like that child Play is a is a you know,
franchise that has been like created and like kind of
like controlled creatively by like like a queer creator for
so long that like and there's I think I feel
like there's so little of that in Hollywood that like
taking it or you know, not so little, but you know,
(43:54):
like at least in the horror world, you know. Um,
but I did go to see it, and for honestly,
like I because I think for legal reasons, it had
to distinguish itself so much from like the France, from
the other Chucky movies. Like I was told that Lee
I had heard that legally, like they couldn't they just
(44:14):
not only could they not use any of the existing
like Chucky mythology, which is why I think they had
to resort to the like Chucky is like an ai. Um,
they couldn't like have any kills that like at all
resembled anything from the other child's playing movies. So if
like Chucky kills somebody with like a nail gun in
a Chucky in in one of the other movies, um,
like this Chucky could never like killing one with a
(44:36):
nail gun. And so that like really like I think
like made them force them to come up with some
like creative kills. And there are some like really like
there are some really like weird like just out like
like crazy kills and those moves in that movie that
I enjoy and also like uh Mark Hamill, you know
kind of Braddorf Chucky is just like this insane like
(44:58):
kind of like this insane killer. Uh Mark Hamill plays
Chucky has kind of like like how like a how
two thousand ask um, you know, in like in robot
who like goes crazy specifically because like it's like, oh,
this boy is his best friend and then the boy
rejects him and he's like he's like a jealous boyfriend
who wants his like his best friend back, um and um.
(45:21):
So he plays it's a different slant on the character
that I that I didn't hate. I enjoyed some of it.
Let's realized. Yeah, it's not even like it's not a
soul in the body, it's it's it is a robot. Yeah,
it's like an AI that gets corrupted and it's like
it's it's like it's pretty dumb. Like is when you
think about the fact that the reason Chucky can continue
(45:41):
to go is because with the introduction of Ludo magic,
you can always make your soul go. Yeah, if they
kill this. There's no reason this other yeah, unless they
like it's like that consciousness is up in the cloud
or something like. It even opens with like the reason
he gets like the AI gets corrupted is because like
we open it like the factory they're building Chucky and
this guy gets fired and he's like okay, and he
(46:02):
like such like writes like coding into the doll, and
it's like, oh, you want to you're gonna fire me.
I'm gonna put some evil code in this doll. Well,
it seems like everyone kind of agree with you, because
score wise, it has five point nine out of ten
on IMDb, on Rotten Tomatoes, which is still technically fresh yeah,
(46:25):
and forty percent on Metacritic. Uh uh. But it did
make forty three million with a budget of ten millions,
so we might this might not be the end of
I don't know how they're going to continue that. But
but I mean, like I I was, I'm a big
follower of like horror Instagram, and prior to the movie
coming out, there was just a lot of like we
(46:46):
hate New Chucky, mean like lots of like being like
people drawing like like um, you know, like old Chucky,
like killing New Chucky, which I love, angsty like, and
you know, now I think about it, like I should
have some sympathy for this because like, because I was
working on ThunderCats, I was definitely part of a franchise
that like people were like no' like giving it no
(47:11):
no credit, Like I no, I'm not gonna I'm just
gonna like say I don't like this and never look
at it. You know what. I did the same thing
to Child's Play. I'm I'm part I'm I'm a part
of the problem. But I did go see it and
I didn't like, I didn't enjoy it, and a lot
of the memes like those means kind of I think
like the community was basically like, yeah, that's fine, we
still like what we still want Old Chucky. But you know,
(47:31):
this wasn't a bad movie. We had Aubrey Plaza who
was in it, also Gabriel Bateman, Brian Tyree Henry, and
of course Mark camel Plane. Chucky one thing that I
thought was really funny. So it was released June one
of this year, twenty nineteen. It was the same weekend
that Toy Story was released, and they really capitalized on
(47:52):
that because I don't know if you caught the posters were,
which was fascinating. It showed Andy because they have they
both have boys named Andy um and it was like
dead Woody like it was just like his you know.
They really the posters that they made were the same
posters as the Toy Story ones, like same background and everything,
(48:13):
but it was like of Chucky, like killing the toys. Yeah,
you know, maybe a little presumpould say, you know, I
think liked Toy Story four for yeah, Story four probably
made about like, like, you know, five million dollars more,
but I still admire I did like those posters. That
was fun. Yeah, I thought it was cute. Yeah. Yeah.
So it seems like the future of the I guess
(48:35):
we'll call it the Chucky franchise lies in sci fi,
and the future of Child's Play probably lies in oryan
pictures on what they decide to do. And there's a
big I know, there's a big part of the community,
not a big party. There's a small part of the
community that really wants Chucky and Nika's body to Andy.
So so I'm not a part of that community, but
(48:55):
I know that's that's that's a thing people really some
people really want. And by the way, just to answer
your question, or not to answer your question, but to
tack on when you said Chucky versus Toy Story, Toy
Story four made one point zero fifty eight billion dollars
versus Chucky's. Yeah, a lot going for it. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Well,
(49:18):
also we didn't really tackle this, but there was a
huge controversy when Child's Play came out. There were parents protesting.
In fact, they actually went to the studio to protest
about it, which is so funny. It's like, I don't
know if that's the thing they would do now. I mean,
I guess I still have like one million moms and stuff.
There's definitely like I feel like the eighties was a
(49:38):
little bit of like the heyday of that. Like I
remember like they're being like urban legends about like kids
who like copy yeah, like blew up their cat in
the microway, they have to seeing Gremlins, And I think
all that was kind of just like hysteric, like hysteric
like kind of like an offshoot of the Satanic panics.
But I yeah, yeah, I don't know if any of
(50:00):
that was like proven to be to be Chucky's fault.
I don't know. Yeah, I mean that's the thing is
it's funny because like, yeah, the one that we see
is in a December of four people tortured and kill
sixeen year old Suzanne Kapper and were said to be
influenced by the movies because during the torturing, the perpetrators
taunted her by playing her a song which is high
(50:22):
I'm chucky want to play, But that just could have
been any song. Like, you can't take someone doing something
heinous and then like an element of it blaming it
on that instead of like, you know, the actual things.
But we've learned many times and times again that people
will blame anything like what's actually the problem? Yeah, yeah,
it's it's I don't know. I I don't know, and
(50:43):
I honestly don't know enough about that particular story to
like commented on fully. And I don't want to make
light of you know this, regardless of you know, what
encouraged it was, like it was a tragedy. But like
I do because obviously, like I think, you know, movies
and and video games that were like an easy escape
go to not deal with real problem maybe real issues.
(51:03):
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