Episode 97: Static Shock

Warning! Electrified episode ahead! This week on Nerdificent Dani and Ify are joined by writer and illustrator Crystal Savage to discuss Milestone's own Static and the TV series Static Shock! From paperback beginnings to the multi-season TV show, learn a little more about this static superhero on this episode of Nerdificent!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello, and welcome to another edition of a Netificent. I
am one half of your host, Dandy Fernandez, and sitting
across from me as always in his NASA repond NASA Today.
It's actually really nice. Yeah, it was just what was
in the closet, you know, and I was out too
late last night getting it in. You know why when
we had our show did karaoke, I was gonna go

(00:31):
to sleep early, and then you know, you sound tired.
They were like they're like, you gotta, we gotta stay.
It's gonna get pumped and we gotta sing some songs. Um,
so yeah for Valentine's Yeah, just you know fellas Time's Day. Yeah.
I was about to say you called me and if
he and I actually talked about like random things for

(00:52):
like a half hour, and he's like, what are you doing?
Because we're both we both like weren't we didn't have
dates and I would be annoying. I felt bad for
the other Super Punch team who had to fly to
the TBS studio in Atlanta because like j D is married,
Alex has a girlfriend, Kelly's married, and I was like,
y'all abandon all your your your spouses and significant others

(01:15):
to do this show on Twitch. Yeah, but I mean
they're married, so yeah, it's like it's Valentine's Day every day. Yeah. Um.
That other voice on the other side of the mic
is l A based illustrator and writer Crystal Savage. Thanks
for joining us, Thanks for having yeah, of course, thanks

(01:37):
trying to be here. Yeah. No, this is gonna be
another fun one. It's been fun month Black History Month.
Went to get some black creators in here so we
can just be talking about what we do. I think
it adds like another like element of flare to it.
Like we were talking about Milestone with Ed and there
were so many parallels with starting up and pitching your

(01:57):
own uh comic book company you with like even selling
a TV show or something like that. And I'm sure
the steps in trials and tribulations making a show like Static,
you'll have a lot of insight on the illustration and
writing side, even with the episodes just rewatching it. Um,
And I know I'm totally jumping the gun, but um,

(02:20):
I noticed, like the first they're the way they break
up the seasons. Back in the two thousands, those shows
typically had a twenty two episode run, so saying like
season one is like twelve eleven or twelve episodes, and
then season two is eleven and twelve episodes. That signal
to me that that was and then also that the
art style did not change until season three, because you've

(02:43):
seen cartoons. First season, it's just yeah, but if it's
good enough and they get enough viewership, they get their
season two, they get a budget increase, everything looks amazing.
You know, maybe they get a few more episodes, who knows.
So it makes me think that season one and two
is actually one season that they split into two so
that they could make it for syndication. Maybe completely untrue.

(03:06):
I don't know, but I remember when I was at
DreamWorks that did happen with a few shows that were
supposed to go a little bit longer, but they decided
to end the run. They had two seasons, but they
would split them into four seasons by doing taking the
twenty two episodes into to twelve episode seasons. So that's

(03:26):
how you make your syndication. Still, but I could be
totally off base, but everything like this whole thing with
shows only having thirteen episodes ten episodes, that's very recent phenomenon. Okay,
that's very that's that's actually, you know, just for more
insider baseball talk. That's kind of been the whole thing

(03:47):
with w g A bargaining because you know, you used
to have these longer season runs, so that would you know,
take care of the year if you only did the
year of writing. But now you have the shorter run season,
some seasons as short as eight episodes, and if you
don't write for the rest of the year, that eight
episodes worth of money isn't the same. Yeah, so so

(04:08):
we have to you know, bargain and kind of get
more minimums or higher pay for shorter runs and stuff
like that. But yeah, no, that's it's it's yeah, it's
funny how I know. It's interesting because there's like two
sides of of media where you get the front face
and consumer side of what we see, digest enjoy and
pretty much yeah, it's just there to enjoy, but then

(04:31):
there's all the back stuff that happens that and it's
so funny to see because you know, same thing and
this will be I guess kind of molded into what
I'm gigging out about, which is the fact that my
one of my favorite games, Apex Legends, who uh a
friend of mine many. Hugopion has been writing on got
Game of the I think it was Multiplayer Game of

(04:52):
the Game Year or the first person Shooter Game of
the Year at the DICE Awards, And it was interesting
seeing because you know there's a game that BioWare was made,
uh and by Aware if you don't know them, they
did the mass Effect games, the Dragon Age games, and
as recently they you know back when That's Effect wanted

(05:12):
to the first to games even before that, but that
those were the games. Yeah, like in grade school, that's
when they were like known as like, oh this is
this is you know when that's because you know, video
games kind of started in the like two thousands, two
thousands tend to have that stand culture behind publishers where

(05:32):
it's like we can trust these guys. But you know,
with the newest mass Effect started a little earlier than yeah,
because I'm okay, I'm about to get forty this year.
I'm going to tell you honestly, when I think it started.
That was squar Sauce Fault with Final Fantasy. They started
with Final Fantasy seven, and people were like, oh my god,

(05:54):
I can trust Squares offt to make this amazing game
because they were the ones that changed everything. Yeah, we
get games on disc because of Final Fantasy seven, We
get games going across years because of Final Fantasy seven,
And they were able to build so much after Final
Fantasy seven came out. They was making movies that was like,
we're gonna make her gates, We're gonna make fighting games,
We're gonna make you know, shooter games. We're gonna make

(06:15):
not just RPGs. And they really like all of that
happened because of Final Fantasy seven, and people like glumped
on the Square Soft and that just that was it listening.
That's what Square Enix used to be called the Square
I remember, yes, Square Soft. Well, when they turned into
Square enixs, I was like, who are you? Who is this?

(06:38):
But yeah, but so now but with the Anthem, it
was kind of a flop and they've been trying to
rework it. It's kind of a Games of the Service
game similar to Destiny, And there were so many people
who were like, oh, by aware is is this and that?
And we can't trust them by where this? By where
that bay? And it wasn't until Jesse Cox came on, go, well,

(07:00):
I know that Anthem was rushed by e a. So
I'm wondering if the suits that rushed by Aware to
make this game and thus making an incomplete game, are
without jobs anyone, anyone, And it's like, yeah, that's what. Really,
you're blaming BioWare when it's not even their fault and
you know I'm not gonna rush the job. Are still working,

(07:22):
they are collecting, they check. Oh yeah, they that FIFA
check that FIFA check. Keep them, keep them afloat, baby,
They're fine, You're fine. Don't worry. What are you nerding
out about doing? Um um? Well, A couple of things. One,
I'm glad that our prediction was right, that Matthew Cherry
Ascara like like nostradamit's over here. I mean, I was

(07:46):
scared that I was going to jinx in by saying
he won it because we recorded the day before, and
I'm like, he won. I'm hoping that's the power of speaking.
He literally did Another thing, I want to give a
shout out to our friend and Short's The Voice of
Sonics is opening this weekend, so so shout out, go
check out the Sonic movie. And people are enjoying. Yeah,

(08:09):
it's a it's a it's a family friendly movie. I
don't think it's supposed to be groundbreaking, so um, just
enjoy it and then uh, finally, this just feels like
I'm just shouting out movies. What I was getting out
about was actually that I went with Malcolm Barrett if
I'm on Oscar to night after I saw After I
saw Matthew, when I checked out, I left, we were

(08:29):
like I've done, and I went and um, I went
to see Birds of Prey and I did love many
different things about it, but one was the sheer amount
of fighting they had, like the fight choreography. I mean,
it was just like it reminded me of there's two
types of DBZ episodes. There's one where they stand around
and talk and there's one where they fight the entire time.

(08:50):
And that's what it felt like. It was like majority fighting.
I felt like, I'm probably going to see that tonight
after this. Yeah I haven't. Yeah, I gotta see this.
I'm gonna record track with Lamar. But then I got
to get my hair cut. I got you know, it's
that I've been working so much. Yeah yeah, yeah, but
I like, I wake up, go to the gym, because

(09:10):
you know, your boy never sleeps. You boy got to
get them gains. But I'm writing on this sci fi show,
Great Debate, who you might you might see some folk,
you know, you might see some folks on that show.
Just just gonna say, I've meant a text to see
if I can announce some of the people. Because the
tickets are available. Yeah, you can buy tickets for the

(09:32):
live taping. So usually the ticketing sites will say who's
gonna be on it? Uh, and we have Yeah, we've
locked a few apps. Uh, you know, but it's you know,
I might wanna might wanna hop. Yeah. But so I've
been doing that from like ten thirty to five thirty,
sitting in an hour and twenty minutes of traffic from

(09:54):
Culver to Burbank to shoot my yeah, because then I
shoot my late night on Twitch super Punch from seven
to eleven. Then I jet home, try and get a
little bit asleep. But because you know me, like I
like one night, I was playing Apex till like two
problem and then like, yeah, last night, like I did

(10:16):
all that. I got home at two and I was like,
let me watch one episode of again Tomas Wow. One episode.
But then I knew I screwed myself because they were like,
this is the one hour special premier episode. On my point,
if you want to know, you want to know something
so funny when people get honest at our podcast is
only an hour, which I think is like the perfect

(10:38):
time is, um, I'm writing on this show. I do
the same thing where I'm in this writer's room for
Netflix until like six pm, like you know, it's dark out,
And then I agreed to do someone's podcast and it
was it was ram but like it was two hours long.
So I was sitting there until nine pm thinking like

(10:58):
I need I feel so bad, I need to not
agree to do this. I was like, this is there's
no topic that I need to sit here that you
need to hear me talk about for two hours of
just straight Yeah, I know it depends on the topic. Well,
I mean I hear you, but also like, as a
working person, I cannot. That's why like all of our
guests like you and everyone that comes in is like

(11:19):
they're busy people. They're doing stuff, and so we try
to give give you all info and bite sized amounts
and then get out of there. So, um, Crystal, what
are you getting out about this week? I love dead
Dead demons, the dead Dead Dead destruction. It is a
manga by any assano Um. If you read good Night Mr.
Poom Poom or um Stollen in with the other one

(11:41):
that came out, it's this crazy slice of life manga
about basically, these aliens just showed up over Tokyo huge
mothership and did absolutely nothing, and of course people thought
they were about to get invaded. They were freaking out
and nothing happened, so then they started to just get
used to it it and go on about their daily lives.

(12:02):
But that's not gonna just sit. It's like, it's just
like the craziest thing I've ever seen is about these
four high school girls that are just trying to decide
if they still want to go to school in the
face of this, because they know they're like, we're gonna
die for sure, there's something's going to happen, or if
they're gonna try to pursue romantic relationships, or if they're

(12:23):
going to try to stop these aliens, or if the
aliens are actually a problem. Because there's some reveals later on.
I'm on book seven, I know there's like a couple
of more volumes left, and a lot of things have
been revealed about the aliens and what the government is doing.
Donald Trump is in there. Yes, comic is amazing and
I recommend it to anybody to read it. And our

(12:44):
style is amazing too as well. So you say it
was a manga, Yeah, maa, okay, I love whenever they
drag us Please Death Note went and had Donald Trump
in it too. They did shot you have to it's
impossible now you can't not drag Look at what look

(13:06):
at what's going on over in America. Yeah. Well it's
so funny too, because like my buddy Pierce is over
in Japan right now, and when he when Donald Trump
was meeting with the Japanese Prime Minister, and I was like, oh,
what's this And my buddy was like, he's just as bad.
He's our Donald Trump. I was like, yeah, yeah, really yeah,
it's just as bad as Donald That's what Pierce said.
So wow, he said it's very like he's very nationalist,

(13:30):
say something, you know, so same thing. It seems like
it was just some weird kool aid that went into
all the different world leaders where it's like we just
got to get supernationalists and be about us in our roots,
but really not our roots, just the primary race that
we want to I mean, we don't really have I
mean our roots aren't anyways. I was going to say,

(13:51):
I love that Bong June Hoo kept calling the Oscars
like a regional. Oh yeah, it's funny. It's still show.
Yeah he's still swept. He was like, thanks, and I'm out. Yeah,
he's very liable to keep checking Americans. We need it.

(14:11):
And if you like to parasite of, I'll check out
snow Piercer, check out the host. You know that he's
got some other hits to check out. Pierce is my favorite.
I just want to tweet gifts that are like respect.
People that have seen it will get that. Send me
respect gifts. I'm still freaked out, but I guy, we'll

(14:35):
look so. Um. I was going to say, before we
though hop into static Shock, I kind of would love
the audience to know a little bit more about you,
Crystal pursuing you know, being an illustrator and writing comics.
So how did you get into this field and how
did you also? Sorry, second question, when did you decide
to pursue it professionally? Honestly, I always love comics. Um.

(15:00):
I told you before that I grew up reading my
dad's comic book collection. He had bookcases and bookcases and
bookcases of comics, and um, I just read all of
them whatever I could. And I got a little older,
felled down to manga black hole, never to be seen again.
But and I thought for a while, I was like,
oh wow, I'm gonna be an animator because I always

(15:23):
love cartoons and I went to school for it. Um.
And I did finally come out here, super duper late.
But I came out here. Where are you from? I'm
from Chicago, originally from Chicago, born and raised, and um, yeah,
it was a culture shot coming here. But that's what's
at the point. UM. And I started working at Universal. UM.

(15:43):
Then I ended up at DreamWorks. Um they were doing
some Netflix shows. They're doing a bunch of Netflix shows now, um.
And then a couple of other smaller studios after that.
But I had always loved animation. I always love comic books,
and those two kind of tend to go hand in hand,
Like I don't know anybody that's in the comic that
does said doesn't love animation, and vice versa. UM. It
is a related but similar, related but different skill set

(16:08):
because with animation, especially storyboards, which is what people used
to compare to comics. It's all about a your camera,
where's your camera gonna be at? So I did my
time at some animation studios, but honestly, one of the
things I learned, I mean because the way, and you
guys know as well, you work on a project for

(16:29):
a certain amount of time, and then you're hustling for
the next next project, which means you're hustling for the
next paycheck. And I realized that I can do that,
and it's cool, but I'm always gonna be working on
somebody else's ideas and somebody else's stories and somebody else's dreams.
I have a finite amount of time on this earth,
and I don't want to spend it telling somebody else's story.

(16:51):
I want to tell on my own stories. So I
uh got together with my friend that you know, he
was the only other black person on our product to Netflix,
I mean at uh DreamWorks. We're doing a show for
Netflix that DreamWorks, and Uh, I was like, yo, let's
just do this comic together. Like, you know, we're both
obviously still working, but we're like, we need to be

(17:13):
working towards something for ourselves so that we're not constantly
be beholden to some big name studio or any other
studio for you know, So, did you all have to
meet up on because you're still working full time. I'm
just trying to give I know this helps our listeners
that are also trying to pursue a creative absolutely, so,
were you meeting up on weekends? Always on the weekends

(17:35):
we meet up. We have it scheduled. And this is
the thing that you absolutely have to do if this
is something that you're interested in, especially if you're working
with somebody else one, you have to respect their time
and your energy and your own. Don't make unrealistic goals
or expectations about this sort of thing. It is going
to take the time that it's going to take, and
the more research that you do ahead of the time,

(17:55):
the better that your situation will be. Um And you
want to make sure you're working with somebody that actually
wants to do with that isn't just like, oh, well,
you know, I could do a draw a few pictures
here and there. You want somebody that is committed to
the project as you are, that sees, yes, I see
value in this. I need to be doing something other

(18:16):
than you know, just working for somebody else. It also
helps if that person has their own ideas that maybe
they want to get out there. Because my partner, he's
a board artist, so of course he's a board artist,
are writers too. He has a lot of great ideas.
So after we're done with this first one, this are
comic fantasmic gore, we're coming out with. Um, I'm pushing

(18:38):
him because he had this game that he was working on. Um,
I'm pushing him to produce that one next because I
say why not? Why not? And that's also you should
ask yourself why not? So yeah, um, so yeah, we
meet every weekend. Uh, we have a do an agenda
ahead of time because I'm basically the captain of this

(18:59):
ship at this point. So have our meeting agenda, we
hit our points and everything, and then we have our
assignments to go back to when we go back into
our normal nine to five lives. Um. Of course, you
want to make sure you're carving out some time to
yourself to work on stuff. And it is so hard.
It's so hard, especially and this is the hardest thing
because I was working in production, but he's uh, in

(19:22):
the on the creative end, you're expending a lot of
creative energy too. If you're on doing design, if you're
doing boards, even if you're if you're writing for somebody,
you're expending in a lot of creative energy for somebody else,
And it's hard to recharge and work on your own stuff.
But you have to, like, I feel like I have
this story to tell. Yeah, I think people is going

(19:44):
to resonate what else? So for me, So this Netflix
show that I'm working on right now, which is great.
I can congratulation to see a girl. Yeah, I cannot
wait to for everyone to see it. Um, but it's
not my show. I have a separate show that I
get to work on this spring that's mine. But this
show and so you're there all day. You're using your brain,
which is like the most exhausted. You don't realize because

(20:05):
you're sitting right the whole time, but you're pitching ideas
and I go through so much coffee because everyone in
the room got there because of their talent, right, So
everyone is like some of the best writers in that room,
and you're having to pitch alongside them, which is great,
but you need to bring your a game every day.
And so and so we're going to wrap up at
the end of February, beginning to March, and my team

(20:27):
my reps were like, hey, so, do you want to
go work on this other show after And I said no,
And they said, I'm sorry, Can we ask why? And
I said yeah, because I just you know, I'm I'm
I just did these several months on someone else's show,
and there's no way I can work on my own
stuff if I'm like, you know, I have this And
I'm saying that from a place of like, yes, I've

(20:49):
been able to stash away a little bit of money
from from this show so that I can I can
you know, keep moving on so that I can take
some time off to work on my stuff. But yeah,
I'm so in the same way where I think that
to them was like, don't you just want to make money?
And I was like, well, actually, I don't mind making
less money for a month, having a month off or
two if I can like sit down and recharge and

(21:09):
like actually make my own scripts. And I totally agree.
It's like it's really hard. You have to do both.
You have to do both when you're coming up, but
there's a certain point where you're like, you know, when
am I actually going to set aside time to work
on my own stuff and just a piece of advice,
if you can give yourself three months. Yeah, I don't
know if you can, that might not be possible. But
if you can give yourself three months, because you need

(21:31):
a month to decompress all of what you just did
and get back into your own headspace, and then a
month to like really get into working and then and
then having two months just to just push all your
stuff and then jump back into that nine o five game. Sure,
but that's what I would suggest, Like if you can
get and you know, with this business, we get a

(21:52):
show or a gig or whatever, and in that ends
and you might have a little bit of time off,
and I say, use that time off to push your projects. Like, yes,
obviously make the connections, call to people, network, whatever you're
doing to get your next gig, but make sure you
have something that you're working on, because you know what,
you might be in a meeting with somebody and they

(22:13):
might ask you they do if you have something to
pitch and if you've worked on that, hey you're ready
to go. I was gonna say, I also have a
rule that I made just recently this past month, and
I have Sunday is off, Like it doesn't matter people,
and I feel bad. But people will be like, hey,
I'm throwing this thing and I'm like I cannot go.
Like I won't say why. I'm just like I'm so sorry,
I can't make it. And I'm like, because every Sunday

(22:34):
somebody will have a thing, ye every Sunday somebody want
to do, like oh, can you record my show? Can
you do this? And that I'm like, this is just
so I can't do this to myself if I don't
give myself one single day where I do absolutely nothing. However,
on that day, I do feel really bad and guilty
about it. I think it's because we were raised to
like just constantly feel we have to hustle, and so

(22:56):
even on my Sunday, my day off, I still I'm like, oh,
I could be doing more, and it's like, no, you
literally use your brain week. Your brain will not be
as good this week if you don't take this day off.
It's so funny because it's like a mix of a
little bit of both in the sense that like, sometimes
I'll get the ball rolling on something and so you

(23:17):
get the momentum going, and then there's that period where
like you're not doing something before your next thing, and
you're just freaking out about and you're like depressed and
you're like, why am I not doing any more when
I'm not doing it? And then you begin the next thing,
you're like, I'm so exhausted. Why didn't rest? True? And
you're like, uh, you know, it's so hard to just
accept it and rest, and like, maybe watch an episode

(23:38):
of static Shock into our topic static Shock. I think
that's good just because we're going to be talking about
the animation and the episodes and stuff. So what was
your first introduction two Stock? I think I caught an
episode like I was just again. It came out in
two thousands, so I was twenty safely tony by that time,

(24:01):
and um, I was not watching a lot of American cartoons.
I was like, um, we were calling ourselves old taku
back in, but y'all call it weaves. Yeah, yeah, you
didn't involved in the weaves even though yes, I when
people started calling each other we'ves, I was like, well,
it's funny because I have a friend writing for the
Anime Awards and they don't. They're not letting her call

(24:24):
each other weaves or we abows. They don't. Yeah, they
they they're like crunchy rolls, like no, unacceptable. I think
because remember we'ves kind of started as like a derogatory
and then we took it, so I think they're still
like originally yeah, but I guess it's more I always

(24:45):
is probably I always just equated it to like a
non Japanese person that has like latched themselves on, which
I'm not necessarily saying is bad. It's kind of more
self aware that you're when you call yourself a weed.
I'm very aware I'm not Japanese and I'm obsessed with
anime and their culture. Yeah, And that's that's the kind
of way it was taken because we was originally those people.
We we all knew as as anime fans, growing up

(25:08):
as anime fans. We all knew that person who like
would would would just like squeezing kawai and Japanese phrases.
And I'm going to go to Japan. Yeah, no, you're not,
You're not. I'm finally going this year though, Gangang. Yeah,
Brody is ahead of me. He's he's learning to speak
Japanese and literally a week, Yeah, I started wearing like

(25:31):
Japanese clothing and all of that I'm not saying that you.
I'm just saying, like, Japanese in college, because yeah, I
took through sizes of Japanese in college. I took one
and dropped out because I was like, this is harder
than Spanish. Yeah, to me, it was just a term
that like, I'm very self aware of what I'm doing.
But every anime fan goes through there and you get

(25:52):
deep into Japan. I'm going to become a manga artist.
I'm be animated, and then you like, all right, calm down. Yeah,
it's fine, especially if you start watching K drama z,
like historical K dramas and you're like, Japan was terrible,
Oh my god, they killed the whole royal family. But

(26:12):
you know, I say that if you want to cure
anybody or there, we've status, let him watch them historical
K dramas and they will be like, all right, get
some balance. But yes, static shock, that's that's what happens
when we get weaves talking about regular animation, we just
go back to the animate something. Hey, no, listen, stack
shock was everything from the simple fact that, and I've

(26:34):
said this a whole bunch of times to y'all, I
was tony when it came out, and I was annoyed
because I wanted that show. When I was a teenager,
I was watching Sailor Moon, Dragon ball Z, Rhona Warriors,
all that jazz, and we didn't have black superheroes. He
had Storm from X ME in the nineties. That was
a dope cartoon, right, But what happened after that, it
was like nothing, That's what it was. Something happened after

(26:56):
the nineties where everything gets super white all a television
and it just went, Okay, we did that. We're done
with this part of you know, history and entertainment. Everything's
back to being white. And for a long time, you
didn't really see a lot of, you know, different faces
of color on the screen. But Static Shock was clearly
an exception. And I do remember just me, why couldn't

(27:18):
I have this when I was like a kid coming up.
But it was a cool little show. It was such
a cool show the first two seasons, like I said,
kind of look a little struggle, you know, um, And
but that's typical. You know, the show gets a better
budget in the second season and then you start seeing
better animation and everything, even the music yet better. Especially
like the third season, it was like, oh, okay, okay,

(27:42):
I'm watching. I'm singing alone, you know. Um. But one
of the fun things about Static that I absolutely love,
and like every animated show has like their own little
background music going on, but like it with the introduction
to the bad guy, they got like their own little
music like move get out, Like it's like a dude

(28:03):
that's like I forget which one was he had all
of his density problems or whatever. He can no no,
no me no evon with the shadow corn rolls. Yeah,
he was so tight. He was a good back. Did
you know his Um, I was watching, I was like,
I recognized the voice of his you know, the brother
rubber band man. That's Dwayne Wayne from a different world. Yes,

(28:28):
Like I heard that voice. I was like, I know
the voice that I was like, I was like, that
sounds like the Dayne Wayne. I looked it up Cadine
Harrison of course, so um. Static Shock Also, even though
it came out in two thousand's it did. I noticed
that it follows quite a nineties format for cartoons, which
was a lot of modular episodes where it's like, you know,

(28:49):
just the singular, singular story and not an overarching story.
So you get that a lot in the nineties, and
then you also had things like, um, the best friend
that was like, I'm the geeky best friend. That's that's
a sidekick, but also a little bit jealous of the
superhero friend that. In course, in subsequent seasons they get
magic powers too, so that happened. But it was cool

(29:11):
because his best friend was the white guy, because normally
is like the best friend is the black guy. And
I got all these little jokes, and I got all
of these little you know, quips or whatever, and then
I'm just like jealous of this white man with his
magic power. So they were like, we're gonna flip it.
He flipped it, and I was like, that's cool because
you know, come on, yeah, it's good to see. Yeah,

(29:34):
but you know, we're the character Static from Static Shock
came out of the Milestone comics that we were talking
about last week, which it was. It was wild to
me because I, you know, ed had this deep knowledge
of Milestone. I didn't even notice it because I was like,
my dad refused to buy me comics, so that's kind
of why I deserved it. I wasn't doing well. I

(29:58):
was a class count clown. That's why I must stand
up now. But so since I couldn't like go to
comic bookshops often, I just would you know, online manga's
downloading animate like that. So so like I was in
two comics, but I didn't fall so the way I
got a lot of my comic book stuff with Spider
Man the series, X Men the series which back then,

(30:21):
remember they were following stuff that was happening in the comics. Well,
so like I was able to communicate with kids who
were reading the comics because they were just taking stuff
from it. And funny enough, Static is no different, like
you know, they're they were like minor changes here and there.
But the character Virgil, and I think what made him
so cool to us is he was he was the

(30:41):
Spider Man. He's a young kid, really into science, really smart.
He you know, it was an act of heroism how
he got his power because he went to stop his
friend from at the Big Bang, you know. And I
think in the cartoons, wasn't it like it was let
me see you because hopeing was Virtual was getting bullied

(31:04):
at school, right, and then they were gonna, uh these
other gangs were like protected him. But he said in exchange,
you gotta do something for me, and the courced him
down to the docks or wherever the Big Bank took place,
and the whole fight broke out and in Kablamo, right,
he gets his powers. But that to me was just
like it was such a nineties thing. He was like,

(31:25):
because there was a lot of media that came out,
this is what's happening to our black Yeah, they're being
coerced into these gangs by other dangerous black youths. Well,
that's what was funny because that's now knowing the actual
origin of the Big Bang, Like the Mouthstone version, I
was like, ye, there's no way they were gonna let
that be in the TV show because the the the

(31:45):
Milestone version is that all these gangs came out to
have the one battle, and then the government wanted to
do experiments on black people, so they went ahead and
threw these chemicals on them and it ended up giving
them powers that backfired on them. You know, someone, It
killed a whole bunch of people. Show No kids TV show.

(32:07):
When I watched, and I had a feeling when I
was watching, I was like, they're letting some of Dwayne
come out, but they're definitely filtering out a lot. They're
definitely giving us what they think that we that is acceptable. Well, also,
it's harder to make, you know, statements like that, especially
in the nineties for a kids show, because they can
now use that excuse. They no longer have to be like, well,

(32:28):
we're not comfortable. They can say the kids, you know,
they're not gonna get the nuance of this type of thing.
They might think the cops are bad or something. Hitting
Duyne's like exactly, wait a minute. I had to ask
about that because I forgot which season it was the
dad started dating a cop. I was too through when
I was like, really, we're gonna do this storyline when

(32:51):
he's dating this and then like the way they set
it up though, I was like the whole time, because um,
something happened, somebody broken or no, these people that had
this suitcase with these special chemicals or whatever gets robbed
by these kids that don't really know any better, but
they got powers, right, So, um, Static is in the

(33:12):
area and it's like, you know, non descript black man
gets snatched up by the police. It's literally what this
introduction to the girlfriend is. She snatches up Static and
Static is like, well, Virgil because he's not static at
the time. Um, they wanted to look in his backpack.
He had his constume in there, so he's like, I'm
not gonna show them my constume. I still have my
secret identity. So he runs away from the police and

(33:35):
I'm like, lord, I'm watching this like you could get shot,
young man, you know, but run, I get why you're running.
Run faster well, And then like his daddy yells and
him like I told you, Like, the conversation is less like, um,
what how I would have framed it If I were
a parent, I would be like, I'm gonna need you
to stay away from the police in general. Okay, I

(33:58):
need you to not even if you see him you
crossed the street and go someplace else so that you
don't have to run from them if you can't, if
you can't. But like she he was mad at him
for like running from the police and not being like
a good upstanding citizen in Da da da, And I'm like,
is this really a black dad? Yeah, I'm confused. It
was just such an it felt to me incongruous with

(34:20):
like something that I think a black creator like. But
it was still pushing that narrative of like the police
are ultimately good guys, and we gotta be you know,
working tandem with law enforcement to like, you know, they
were still pushing the officer friendly trope yeah, which we
know is not the truth and has never been a
truth for black people ever, so you know, but okay, yeah,

(34:42):
it's but you know, it's That's why it's like, I
love the idea of revisiting Static because I do like,
you know, exploring those things in an interesting way, like
you know, um, the vigilanteism versus police and like what
one can do to help for the community, because I
do think there are people who do sign up to

(35:04):
be cops and you know, want to help the community,
but they're like, you know, like in those in those
complex subjects I think are the spirit of what Milestone
was all about. But we'll get more into the TV
shows and at breakdown specific episodes and moments right after
these messengers and we are back, we're talking about Static Shock,

(35:33):
both the TV show and the comic and the character.
And I just wanted to say about the TV show.
So the co creator, Michael Davis, he runs an annual
panel at SDCC and its title is The Plot Against
Static Shock, and it looks to revisit Michael Davis's repeated
allegations at the character he co created Static Shock, one
of DC's most successfully published by black characters, and one

(35:55):
that headline is successful cartoon has been sidelined at the publisher,
even as his popularity is maintained. Actually, our friend Joe
Star kind of tweeted something about this because it was
in the animation field. There was a talk and animation
Twitter about how um somebody just essentially tweeted something that
was like, oh, um, sorry, we have to cancel the

(36:16):
show because we didn't sell enough merch. And the character
and the creator was like, well, you didn't make any
merch and they were like, well, sorry about that. And
Joe Star was like, oh, the static shock syndrome or something.
He probably didn't say syndrome because that's but he was like, Oh,
this is the static shock like phenomenon or whatever that

(36:38):
he was kind of hinting at, And I guess that
is kind of hinted at in this panel. Well, yeah,
it's so funny because that is something important. I think
we've brought it up in past episodes where we talk
about these older cartoons, but a lot of these cartoons
aren't kind of judged by the powers that be on
the same metric as regular TV shows that like, you

(37:00):
can have good viewership, but if you aren't selling toys,
then it'll be canceled. But if you are choosing not
to Yeah, if you're choosing not choosing to market and
sell the toys, then you're basically building something to fail.
You know, well, I've seen that, and we've all seen that.
Isn't that what happened with Young Justice? Exactly what happened

(37:20):
with Young Justice? And then or I think also symbiotic
Tighten or something like that, um and a lot of shows,
if you don't make money from the merchandise, then you're
gonna get canceled. But like you said, if you're not
making merchandise, then how can anybody go and buy it?
And I don't know what a show like Static Shock
if they get to four seasons, there no, there's no

(37:41):
way that children would not have wanted those toys. There's
no way. Absolutely, I don't believe that in any way, shape,
form or fashion. They just made that A hundred percent
sounds to me like they made the conscious decision and
say we're gonna give you X amount episodes, We're gonna
fulfill our contract and we're cutting you loose. We're done
with it. That's what that sounds like to me. And then,
of course fans are fans. If they love something, they're

(38:02):
gonna love it, and they're not gonna stop loving it
because you refuse to make merchandise for it. They are
going to complain to you about it. And if Static
Shock is seeing a resurgence and popularity, yeah, now they
may be convinced at this juncture to be like, Okay,
I guess we can put out some merchandise for this.
But it does I can totally see because the show
came out and then you didn't see anything else. I

(38:23):
feel like, I don't know. Maybe it's the thing with
DC is like trying to push their core superheroes. They
try to catch up with Marvel, and they're not gonna like,
you know, although you know, Black Panther came out and
did number so maybe like, oh, we got these black
heroes in the closet over here, maybe we just pull
them on out and like show them to you see, remember,
give us the money. I can see that happening. I

(38:46):
could absolutely see that happening. But um, I'm very interested
in what like, I would want to see that panel
about Yeah, I wonder if if there's one where that's recorded,
I'm gonna find that and watch that because yeah, that's
the thing. I believe it. Well, I was gonna say,
diving more into the TV show. So you mentioned ebon
Um as one of the villains. Can you tell people

(39:09):
little roles? Can you tell people a little bit more?
To me? Like, I felt like as a villain he
had the most potential. Um. I mean, they only get
the four seasons. I would have liked to see more
with that character because he was brothers with another villain,
Rubber Bandman, who eventually turned good. Um. Ebon had these

(39:31):
shadow powers and uh, he had a gang of other
villains working with him, and he was kind of recruiting
meta humans to be in the gang. He was like,
you guys don't even look like humans. That He was like, uh,
evil callisto. Remember with the morelocks. You know, it's like
you don't fit in with society, so just you know,

(39:52):
run with me. Yeah, but instead of like trying to
lead like a normal life off on their own, he
was like, run with me and commit crimes. Was just like,
how are we supposed to live in life and be
happy if we're over here constantly robbing banks or whatnot, Like,
how is this supposed to work? Yeah, you know, I'm

(40:12):
not getting there, but but you know, for the sake
of the cartoon, yes I get it, but you know,
nobody in the group say it. This is stupid. But
it's so funny because it shows how dynamic villains have been,
because yeah, that was a lot of like a lot
not just static. Just across many of our superhero cartoons.
Their main goal was to rob banks and rob banks,
people rob banks and and and it's so funny it

(40:35):
goes to change where like the what was that movie? Gosh,
it was so good. It was by the same people
who did Cicario, and it was the movie about the
brothers who were robbing banks, and oh, it's so good.
Um in the movie, we eventually well I don't want
to spoil it because it's a good one, but like
we eventually are like, oh, banks are bad, and then

(40:55):
banks banks are foreclosing homes and just eating off of it.
So so it's funny because I'd love to see this
revisited where you do get like Ebon who's robbing banks,
but you find out that he's doing it because he's
like this bank is evil because of this, like banks
are evil. Yeah, yeah, we could do a whole episode

(41:17):
on that. Yeah, over draft fees and how they are
a scam. Yeah, over draft fees And can you tell
me about Hot Streak a k a. Francis Sto White
villains angry. He's like this angry white dude and I

(41:38):
don't know why he was so mad. I mean, okay,
so I'm picturing Eminem. He was almost except with hair
and flames. They were flames, and he had flames on
the side of his face. No um, and uh. He
just always had a stink attitude at all times. He
starts out as one of the bullies. Oh my gosh,

(41:59):
she looks like a young guy Fieri, a slim guy guy.
He does look like a night you know who he
reminds me of. He reminds me of the villain and
good Burger, Um, the what's his name? The guy that
works at Mondo Burger y'all will know remember on megamind

(42:19):
the dude that he was the nerdy um cameraman that
gets the magic powers. And he looks like he looks
like that dude in syndrome. He had like all of
them the well he was before them, so they look
like him. But yeah, he always had like a sting
attitude for no reason to me, like he was just

(42:39):
like they go Virgil call some problems, you know, like
just for no reason. He would come to school. I'm
kicking death today, like start camping. This was a school kid.
This kid looks like he's in college. This goes along
with the nineties. It's like when Freddie Prince trying to
play a sixteen year I mean like, well, you know,

(43:00):
you know he's a kid because he has a backpack.
You know. Now, I don't know any kid that has
a soul patch. Like I said that, I was like,
what's going on with his facial hair? This man, Oh god,
he looks like he goes to the club and just
puts pills and girls drinks. He looks like, oh my god,

(43:21):
I'm sorry. If hot Streak is somebody's favorite, I don't imagine.
So wait, what are his Okay, So he's a fiery
temper and he has flame paths, and he is one
of the ones that's like he's like the recurring villain
that's like the most irritating I think from what I've
seen for Static is like when he shows up, he's

(43:41):
more of a problem than like the other ones, like
Puff and Um and one with the big old boots,
the ones with the size sixteen ft like he would
just be like smacking him away, Let get out of here.
But then uh, Hot Streak would show up and it
would be like a bigger fight, you know, he would
have to work a little bit harder for Hot Streak.
And of course while searching pictures of him, I stumbled

(44:01):
upon some Hot Streak tumbler. Hot Streak stands by the way,
the movie was Hell or High Water. Oh my gosh,
y'all are wild. I should have already want the tumbler.
That was the problem that only comes up on the
Google images. I guess there's a couple of people doing
some things. You need to go. Hot Streak was definitely

(44:25):
like I love that he still had like the sagging pants. Everybody, everybody,
the adult everybody did. I think somebody even made a
Joe live Are you gonna pull your pants up? Yeah?
And he's like, no, I'm not. What was her name?
This is what was the name of scars Son? And
like the Lion King, the second, well I'm talking about

(44:45):
I don't know anyway, someone did static shock, like but
of that guy. It's like a lion version of static shock. Anyways,
that's an interesting crossover. You know that. I love you
Tumbler for giving me the most cross overs. It'll be
like I used to have this artwork. It was like
Jack Skellington as Iron Man. It was like, whoever needs

(45:06):
this overs? I do who the worst part of fan
fiction done in it? I love him. I love how
the wilder the better. Okay, So so we had hashtre
dctor Nemo, which one was Dr Nemo? Which one was
what was he doing? What was this? Doctor? Nathan Flack
was a renowned quantum physicist who theorized existence of a

(45:28):
type of matter called de quantified plasma or quantum juice.
Oh so he might be one that might not have
made in the show show, but it was in the comics. Yeah,
because the quantum juice was in the show was in
the comics, and that's what And that was across. Yeah,
that was so across. Milestone of this guy was the
guy who like you know, made the Big Bang happen,

(45:50):
whereas like in there it was like chemicals. What was
his name like it was Ajax Chemicals, I think, And
he was like an evil old rich dude, looked like,
you know, like a healthier Mr Burns. And uh, he
had a son that was, you know, could not live
up to his father's expectations. And his company was involved

(46:10):
in like the actual whole bang baby situation. And I,
of course if that's the case, like you were saying
before that it was a government conspiracy thing, is the
reason why their bang babies. And they definitely weren't gonna
allow that on the show. It makes sense that Dr
Nemo is not I didn't see him in those Also,
don't google the term bang babies without safe right, Like,

(46:33):
don't do it to yourself. I would you how I
could have warned you not to do so, I was going, hey,
this is on iheart's WiFi. Um, So, Rick Stone, did
we talk about him in the last episode, because this
is a close friend of Virgils who later comes out
as being queer. Uh. And it says that first Virgil

(46:55):
is unable to deal with Rick's homosexuality, but later comes
to deal with his own homophobia to save Rick and
a bunch of other gay people from a gay bashing
being orchestrated by Hot Streak and his cohorts. Now was
this I mean he looks like I said, what is that?
What is the movie where they're like they it's a

(47:19):
dude Wears My Car where they go into the seven elevens.
They're always like extreme stuff over that. He looks like that.
But um Rick is his friend that gets the magic power,
gets superpowers and he becomes Gear. On the show, Yeah,
like um and the other girl like it's interesting Like
the first season, um he was just like the quipping, smart,

(47:41):
atlicky best friend that kind of had like little jabs
for Virgil. And you also saw that he was a
little bit jealous of his powers because there was an
episode where there was an old man that had powers
that could give other nonpower people powers and he gets
powers and he like you know, tries to show static up.
They eventually like work it out, but he loses those

(48:02):
powers and it's not until like season three where he
becomes Gear and his powers is like I'm smart, so
he makes like gadgets and stuff. So um and there
was no like I'm secretly queer. Not that was not
that in the show. That was what it was two
thousand they weren't gonna let that happen. They weren't gonna
be honest about it, but the other one freed to Um.

(48:26):
She was in like the first episode and she was
kind of introduced is like the friend also slash love interest, um,
but she disappeared after like a couple of episodes. And
then this other black Latina comes onto the scene named Daisy,
and she takes that place and you still see Freedom,
but she's in the background, but she doesn't have the
role that she had uh in that comic. She's like

(48:49):
off in somewhere else. But Daisy is like, it's like
that girl in the show. So they did do some
changes there, but I don't she didn't get any powers.
We have to take another really quick break and they
were in a hot back into more characters from Static
Shock and also some of our favorite episodes right after
this and we're back. So do you remember telling that

(49:17):
was she was in um talking No no, no, no, Yeah,
she was in Ebon's gang. Uh. She was. She was
like a harpy and she you know, she was like
she was like a flunkey of of she was not
one of the ones that Static Shiv and Talent were

(49:38):
like the and they would get their bus kicked like
all the time, like all the time. Evon and Hot Streak,
I think we're like as far as recurring villains were concerned,
were like the worst ones for so here part of
her Lord's Teresa grew wings and parts of her body
were covered with feathers. She was considered a mutant freak. Um.
The criminal lifestyle led her to the Joker, who she

(50:00):
helped to kidnap Batman and Robin, but was eventually defeated
by Robin. Um. They did some crossovers with They did
quite a few crossovers, like there was a Superman crossover, Batman,
Justice League crossover. Joker was absolutely one showed up as
a villain and a clown Staddy. Every time they did
a crossover, Staddy get clown so bad, Like wow, like

(50:24):
they really disrespected this man on his own show, Like
I get he's a teenager. And and that's also a
very nineties thing. Whenever there's a crossover, like the main
hero has to like take a back seat to the guest,
so so nobody's gonna whire they even there, you know,
because Batman and Robins show up and talent and like

(50:44):
some of another Ebon's gang are like enlisted because Ebon
isn't around, like he's in jail or something like that.
He just wasn't there, and Joker recruits them to help him,
uh you know, pull off some shenanigans. So then it's
up to a static Batman Abbin to save the day.
But um, that was one of the crossovers. But there

(51:04):
was also one with the Justice League where they had
Brainiac was the big bad Um. And then there was
one with uh Green Lantern. I was about to say
yeah that one, and um, was there one more? No,
I don't think so. The Green Lantern one Fallen Hero
aired two thousand and four, season four YEP, episode four,

(51:26):
where the Green Lantern goes on a crime spree and
Virgil is disappointed that one of his heroes has turned bad. Obviously,
it wasn't yeah, yeah, just to revisit this, you know
how you said, you know, things got better after the
first two seasons. Do you know who did the the
title song starting with the third season. I do not.

(51:51):
I just not it as dope because I was like, now,
I like this was a little Romeo. I had a
few that was when Little Romeo was and then he
had his Nickelodeon show, the show we still got the

(52:13):
royalty checks. I mean he probably is, but I definitely
do see him on the community college ads on the train,
you know he's holding it. Yeah, he was like, look
I needed a vocation too. I'm like, no, you didn't
listen to check as a check. They had a couple
of um people that were kind of introduced almost as antagonists,
that were actually like good guys. Um. There was one Oh,

(52:35):
and she's actually I think she might be my favorite
character that's not static. Um she bang, it's spelled she bang.
I'm like, yeah, soul trifling with these names. But she
was really cool. She was a little to a teenager.
I think her name was Sharie, and um, she was

(52:56):
not a bang baby. She was a government experiment and
she had like she was nineties Superfowlers was like basically Parkour,
so like she shows up with all the flips and
the kicks and all that jazz. And she was also
super strong too, so she did have that power. And
I thought she was really like when she shows up
in her episodes, I think she has like three or

(53:17):
four across the whole series. Her episodes are so fun,
it's just so fun because she plays off a Virgil
and Uh and Richie like so well because they're all teenagers.
Like when they would crossovers with like the Justice League
is like these are big grown adults, you know, just
like bodying these kids. So I was like, this is
not like it's cool because like the animation goes up

(53:39):
even more for the crossover one, like we gotta get
the eight Team on this one, because you know Superman
is gonna show up. Um. But with her episodes, they
just had it seemed like they cared a little bit
more like they were just so much fun. They were
like the chemistry with them, um, just like the little
jokes and everything. It was really good. The other one
that I thought was cool because they had a not

(54:00):
he on there because the static in Africa. They don't
ever say that they're in Ghana, but that's what they
gotta just he's just in all of Africa, you know,
statics in Africa, you know, but that was you know
in the two thousands, you can get away with that.
You didn't have to say a country, um, wherever you
wanted to be. They do eventually say they're in Acara, Ghana, um.

(54:23):
And a Nazi is a superhero when they show up
there and um, I forgot who the bad guy was.
But he had Jaguar powers or something like that, you know,
always with the jungle Cats with Africans. Come on, let's
get creative. But no, a Nazi. I thought a Nazi
was super cool because he had all these illusion powers
and and just making people think that they were, you know,

(54:45):
something that they not. I just thought the Nazi was
super cool. That's all I can say about it. And
I like that he Um, him and Static worked really
well together, and I just thought he was don't you
also spell it for the people listening, Nazi a in
a s I no, oh oh my god, no, no, no, no, okay,

(55:07):
y'all watch American Gods or in the Vietnam. Okay. So
here's the thing. American Gods is cool. The book is good,
the show is good. The sequel to the book, A
Nazis Boys is way better than American Guys. I don't
care what nobody's say, Like they could have skipped over
American Gods for TV show straight or made a film

(55:30):
out of that, because that is dope. It's super duper
good and the Nazis are cool. Like and as God's
super cool as a superhero. I thought he was really
fun and I like that they had this unique, obviously
African deity and a superhero. That's I think what I
took away from I was like, now, that is the
coolest part. It is shout out that in Africa. I

(55:54):
was just gonna say one other thing about um, so, yeah,
that episode Dwyne McDuffie did right static in Africa, Yes,
And I could tell like with that one because it
seemed like somebody cared a little more episode like somebody cared,
and I did want to say. In two thousand three,
McDuffie was awarded the Humanitist Prize and Children's Animation for

(56:15):
the Jimmy episode. I don't know if you remember that
one about Yes, that was the one they were I
think that was season two and Jimmy was being bullied
in school and he brings the gun to school because
he's he's had enough and um, Richie ends up getting shot. Yeah.
So that was season two. Yeah, that was season two.

(56:36):
They had a couple of episodes in season two. I
was like, oh, y'all getting serious in there, like that
one and the Homeless one where um, the one where
the school shooting one and then the one where there's
a homeless um met a human bank baby who um
she has uh frost powers and she causes some problems.

(56:57):
Like she was one of these antagonists that actually is
like not a bad person, but she was just trying
to survive. And she like one of the things that
I've always noticed because we see a lot of homeless
people out here, especially in this neighborhood. Um, those people
are ignored, they are stepped over, they're ignored there. It's
like you're race And these were the words literally coming

(57:19):
out of this little girl's mouth. Our family dies, and
you know, she goes into into the system and that
they're not able to help her and she ends up
being homeless and um, yeah, she starts causing problems after
she gets her powers. And I thought that was a
really like one of those touching episodes, and that one
I just like, and I'm glad that they did something

(57:39):
like that. Oh yeah, yeah, no, they weren't afraid to
touch on that. I did want to tell upon that
Nancy episode and say, do you want to guess who
joined guess who voiced the panther character. It's step Black
dude that always is in everything, both both of them.
The one with the eyebrows, Um, what terrible? That's terrible, right,

(58:03):
I mean also that's just everyone has. You were like
if you were like, who's the dad on Ship's Creek
that oh Eugene Levy Ye yeah, eyebrows. Okay, so there's
um not the one that was entails from the hood.
But he liked like he has like just this great
rich voice. Michael Hite was the pain saw him down.

(58:28):
Oh my god, Oh my god, was voiced by Carl Lumbley.
That's who I was thinking of. Marcia Manhunter Injustice League,
he was in Alias, he was in this show called Mantis. Uh.
He was. He's He's been in a lot of so much.
He was in a Bucker Rubas Eye from the what

(58:49):
was the Fifth Dimension. I forgot this super super duper nerdy,
like so nerdy nobody even gets it. But like people posted,
I'm like, nobody knows what you're about. Okay to stop.
But Michael j. I saw him over to the Viscom
building the other day and I was one of coworkers
and they were like, who's that. You don't know? Black Dynamite.
He was in our Black Panther documentary for Nurice. He

(59:13):
brought his That's so dope. I wanted to say with Michael,
why he's great? He was great to interview. UM. Season
two also had an episode called Static Shack look at this. Yes,
his head is compared to the red. This is before

(59:33):
before the General came into his life. Ready to go. Okay,
I went to uh. I went to uh this. I
didn't even know what it was. My friend was like, hey,
do you want to go to this? Like, um, this
benefit It's like a athlete benefit and I was like sure.
It was a black tie event honoring legacy athletes. Shack

(59:57):
was there, Michael Irving was there, Eddie Murphy was there,
like also being honored with them but also presenting stuff.
Every single athlete ever that's ever done anything was there
and I was in like shorts. I was hit. It
was also because I was just like, oh, this is
such a writer guy that was like, oh, I'm just
wearing whatever. I'm like, this is literally black tie there

(01:00:19):
with their gorgeous wives. Shock was there, but I was
going to say, a Shock is very funny, like he
just roasted the heck out of the last person was
roast Oh my gosh. I was luckily in the back
he um like Mike Tyson. He was presenting. He was presenting.
The Mike Tyson totally roasted Mike Tyson and was just

(01:00:41):
very funny, but but also an embarrassing time in my life.
I had some crossover episodes. It wasn't just not crossover
like the Special Gift. They had a Backstreet Boy on air.
If was it Brian, No, it was the one J. Yes,

(01:01:01):
a J almost call him j T girl. This is
how you know I'm old. I'm like aldern ages run together.
But there are so many, there were so many listen.
And then at that time you had all of these
little boy bands and nine Degrees. Everybody forgets about nine degrees,
like missing ninety degrees backs all of them and they
were like ninety degrees. Yes, that was a band. Yeah,

(01:01:22):
I remember it was a band. My step mom worked
in this community outreach program and so like whenever they
would do things for the kids, you would let us
go and they took us to some event. It was
at the old Forum back when it was blue uh
and when it was the Great Western Forum, and we
went in and I didn't know what it was but
they're giving us these cassette tapes and it was ninety

(01:01:44):
eight degrees cassette tape. And wow, they give you a
pencil tool so you could turn it back like I
just used my finger there. We go to put the
pinky nail on it. But are they the ones who
did quit playing? I don't know your voice, I don't
know none of you got that was them? Okay, girl,

(01:02:07):
they an't run together, but they had him on there.
And this was one because rubber band Man started out
as a musician who got his as a producer, who
got his track stole by another rapper and that's why
he had a stink attitude and was gonna go bad
and he did because well listen, he wanted his credit,

(01:02:30):
he wanted his money, come on now and like that.
That was a recurring thing for him. After he the
first time he got caught and then he uh did
his time or whatever. He came back and actually had
a music career for about five minutes because he changed
his face because he had rubber power, so he can
change his face. And this man, I swear the guy
got on the stage. I was like, okay, he's gonna
have a little music career. Okay, this man got on

(01:02:52):
the stage with a keyboard and some um fireworks, I said,
for real, like, and everybody at the concert like yeah,
which was like a school gymnasium and everything caught on
fire and it was drama. But when uh, but this
man was constantly pursuing his music goal. Yes, and that's
what was what why a J was there because he
finally got the hook up and was going to get

(01:03:13):
put on because a J liked his music. Yeah. So
then the man just took his woman from me, took
her down to Tennessee. She was the best girl you
ever knew. I wasn't for him, she'd still be true.
Has been a good man. It's been said. Take that Manny,
which was dead. Thank you for joining us and like him,

(01:03:34):
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