November 21, 2025 • 44 mins
In part two of our analysis of the New York City mayoral results, friend of the show Joey digs into what the results might mean and the legacy of #MeToo.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is any and Samantha and what this stuff
never told you? Production by Heart Radio, and today we
are back with friend of the show, friend in real
life who you got to see recently and I did not.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Joey.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, well I'm happy. I'm happy for you. Jealous but happy,
which I think we do talk about in these two
episodes of kind of those conflicting emotions sometimes. So, Yes,
Joey was recently on Joey's our New York correspondent. Yes,
and if you didn't know, there was a huge mayoral
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election in New York recently and we wanted to talk
to Joey about it and see what was going on
exactly exactly, and there was a lot to discuss. So
we did split it up, and we weren't planning to
split it up. So hopefully this doesn't sound too awkward,
but if it does, give us some grace, we had a.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Lot to say.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Also, quick content warning, we are going to be talking
about sexual assault and sexual harassment briefly in this episode,
but just wanted to mention it so you can take
care of yourself. And so let us get back into
our conversation with Joey. This is something I've been thinking
about and it makes me really sad. And it's just
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the reality that a lot of us have had to
grow up with, especially marginalized people in any way. But
it's interesting to me that you have a candidate like
Cuomo who does have this history that got him like
kicked out and for him to be like, oh, well,
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worry about what will happen if it's not me? And
you know, the sad reality this isn't the truth in
this case, but a lot of times, unfortunately, you have
to kind of pick between your sex predators when you're voting.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Really you really do. Yeah, no, I mean again twenty
twenty if we want, I thought anymore, that's kind of
what that was. And thank you Annie that beautiful transition.
Let's talk about the Quomo of it all, because, uh,
the the elephant in the room here on Mom Donnie.
(02:38):
Of course. Well, so the Republican candidate, Mom Donny was
the Democratic candidate. The Republican candidate was a man named
Curtis Leewa, who is fascinating. Uh, we're not going to
get into that now. I did just watch. Uh. I
would recommend though, if if you go on YouTube and
you look up like Curtis Leewa like interview esp the
(03:00):
one there was one where it's just him talking about
all of his cats. He is so funny. It's so funny.
And yes, also disclaimer, I'm aware that this man has
a lot of terrible policies and beliefs, that has done
a lot of messed up stuff. Again, I'm just asking
for a little bit of nuance. I can still find
him a little bit funny and acknowledge the fact that
he's done a lot of terrible things.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So he's a fun train.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
He's a fun he's a fun Traine wreck. He's a
fun character. He's a very like New York character. Anyways,
not talking about him because that man was never gonna
win the election. Cuomo ran independently. Cuomo first of all,
lost the primary significantly, like pretty badly, and for some
reason was like, no, no, no, no no no, I should
run as an independent and and this time it'll win.
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Once again, lost spectacularly. So that was really funny. And
at one point Eric Adams, our current mayor, was also
running independently. He did drop out, and then in doors
Cuomo there was a lot of murkiness there. There was
a lot of I would say kind of open secret
rumors about some pressure from the Trump administration about him
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to drop out and endorse Cuomo. You know what I
will say for Curtis Leeba. He has also talked about
how he was like, I was offered money to That's
how he talked to him. He's like, oh my god. Anyway,
he does sound like like a character. Anyways, he was like,
I was offered money to drop out, and I can't
be bought and sold, which, you know what a little
bit of respect there. I gotta say again, I don't
have to agree with your policies or beliefs or anything, but.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
He had some standards.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, he had some standards. Good for you. Anyways, Cuomo.
Two failed campaigns against this guy, and at the end
of the day, the heart of his campaign really was
banking on this idea that, like the me too era
and everything we were talking about with why he resigned
in the first place, that that was just kind of
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a blip. It was gonna go away. People don't really
care about it. And you know, this is a time
where I think it is very understandable to feel that way.
You know, we did kind of see there was a
lot of stuff that the me Too movement, there were
a lot of promises that didn't kind of follow through.
Trump is literally president of the United States again, despite
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having multiple accusations of sexual assault. You know, there was
like the p Diddy trial recently where he got significantly
lower sentencing. Yeah, that I think people were expecting. You have,
like Chris Brown has a Grammy nomination right now. I
don't know, like there's a bazillion examples you can point
to of like this man who was accused of sexual assault,
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who was convicted of sexual sault, whatever, and it's kind
of getting swept under the rockgund This is like, like
you said, Annie, it's usually a sort of we're all
sort of aware, we're just kind of voting for the
least awful sexual predator. And I think Pomo was kind
of banking on the fact that he was like I
could just get away with this. It's fine. Famous quote,
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I'm not a pervert, I'm just Italian, which I'm an
Italian personally. I don't know how to respond to that. Yeah, yeah,
part of my culture think about that. I still think
about that. I'm like, huh. There were a lot of
issues with Cuomo's campaign, Like I don't think it was
(06:20):
just the sexual assaulting that was like the main issue obviously,
Like there was the whole corruption scandal in general. There
was you know, the COVID mishandling. There was uh, the
fact that he was backed by a lot of Trump's
donors and the fact that Trump endorsed him towards the end. Uh,
there was the fact that he literally did not live
in New York City, like he lived pretty obviously lived
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in Westchester and was like crashing at his daughter's apartment
or something, so he ran. It was some weird like
loophole thing that they did. Anyways, another really funny, courteously
while line from this this whole election cycle was about
quote what we said, uh, killing granny's and grabbing fannies again.
(07:08):
I'm so I'm so glad that man was there for
the commentary at least, like Joey, have you ever watched
thirty Rock, which is I watched?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Okay, So there is towards the end this character where
they are running for mayor, I believe, and Tracy Morgan
is like a doppelgamer, but they people love him because
he's so ridiculous and loud and so bad. But at
the same time, his like stupidity, idiot idiocy really like
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made him endearing to like. According to the show, like
they were making a statement about the fact that if
you can be stupid enough, yeah, you can be ignorant
enough that they will ignore that because they're going to
be entertained by.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
This right and mocking the system. But it kind of
sounds like this is what that's kind of what happened.
And I'm trying to again, like I've seen all the
thing pieces now is that I respect being like guys
like be careful with this guy. Actually all these terrible
policies and I'm like, I know, I know, and I
do hope people remember that he does have some banger
one liners though, you know, so I don't know, Uh,
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that was the most gen c or statement of that politics.
So that thing I heard in minute, Like yeah, so
I think again, there were all of these issues with Cuomo.
There were there was various problems people had with him.
I would say, I think the one that I got
talked about the most was the fact that he was
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a serial sexual predator. And I did just very unofficial poll,
but I kind of just reached out to a bunch
of friends in New York and I particularly made a
point to talk to some of my friends that are
like say straight met into and just be like, hey,
like just off top of your head, I know you'
all voted for Zauran, but like when you're thinking about
the CLOMO campaign, like, what do you think was like
(08:58):
the number one issue with it? Like was the number
one thing that went wrong? And they all for like
were like either we're like yeah, the sexual harassment and
the corruption. Like so it was either the answers were
all either the sexual harassment or sexualcraftsmen in corruption, like
the combination of the show, which it all kind of
came out at the same time, so it makes sense.
But that was interesting to me too, is I And
again like this is not an official poll. This was
me texting a munch of my friends that also is
(09:20):
a bubbularist on itself, but I was like, yeah, even
the people like I know who, maybe this isn't the
biggest issue top of mine. Again, I was. I tried
to ask all of my friends that were like sis
head men that are you know, no fault to them,
well meaning, but like this isn't gonna be the bigest issue.
They're gonna think of out just because it doesn't predict
in them as much. And like across the board, it
was like, yes, like this guy, he's a sexual predator
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that has taged his image, which to me, I think
signals that, yes, maybe we didn't reach the full goals
of the met Too movement, but but I don't think
it is totally failed. And I think this is a
sign that like, it's still worth fighting, that still fight,
it is still worth talking about these things, and it's
still it is not a just like and nobody cares
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at the end of the day. And so during the
final debate leading up to the election on October twenty second,
mom Donnie actually brought two of the women who had
accused Quomo of sexual harassment, Charlotte Bennett and Karen Hinton,
as guests to his debate. Obviously, this is this is
political tactic, is a debate tactic. He's not the first
person to do this, trying to throw your opponent off
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their game. But at the same time, it is like, yeah,
you're getting that message across loud and clear that you're
like this man, like these are the women, these are
two of the many women that he hurt. We're putting
them front and center. We are not We're not just
saying like, oh, he's a sexual like we are actually
centering our voices. We are making sure they're heard. We're
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not like gonna glaze over this issue. Like he made
a point to bring it up. He made a point
to bring it. There was a really great line that
he had that Zorn had I am now talking about
and I'm not still talking about funny things, Curtis Lee
why ha said, but the Zortmandami and one of the
debates said is something where he uh, somebody had brought
up like you don't have a lot of experience whatever,
and he was like, God, I'm misquoting this, but this
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is the gist, but I don't have an experience. I'm
up for an integrity, but there's no like, no matter
how much experience you have, you will never be able
to like you don't have the integrity to kind of
match that or whatever like that Basically was lin, I'm
butsterering the line, but it was it was like it
really got to the point. I've seen that clip go
around TikTok a bunch and it was like one of
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the sixth parties. He was like directly calling out like, yeah,
this is somebody who like, we're not gonna glaze over
the fact that he was uh he resigned in disgrace
for multiple corruption charges and uh, you know, a series
of sexual harassment claims. We're not gonna we're not gonna
just glive, but we're not gonna glaze over that. We're
not gonna glaze over that. And you know, and my
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thinking too is like who's the who's to say what's
gonna happen the people un for sexualssault is one of
those issues to sexual harassment. It is like across the board,
it shows up and left his spaces too. This gives
me hope that it like if there were a similar
thing to happen within the Mountomi inustration, if there was
an individual to do this like this gives me hope
that it's like they're not going to just try to
push them under the table. Again, who's to say what
will happen? Is all just speculation, but this shows to
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me that it is like, no, this is something we're
trying to prioritize. Uh, we like we're not going to
just be like, uh, yeah he did that, but we're
not going to focus too long in it because we
have this problem too, which again you can't say that
for all Democratic candidates because sometimes it's like you can't
really talk about the Trump stuff because you're just as
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bad at all of this whatever. But yeah, I think
I think at the end of the day, the thing
that I think stood out there were a lot of
things about this election that were that gave me a
lot of hope for the future and showed me that
like things are changing, that people do want to better tomorrow,
that like there's hope for the Democratic Party to like
move further left on a lot of these issues. And
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I think just seeing the response to Cuomo running and
see how miserably he lost both times, that was a
big thing to me, just seeing the fact that it's like,
we're not letting this We're not letting people forget about
what happens in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. We're
not letting people forget, you know, all of the terrible
things that happened in COVID. We're not We're not just
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gonna move on. We're not gonna just swip this under
the rug and like pretend like sexual sol sexual harassment
isn't a big issue. Because it is so. Then, yeah,
going going back to Zoron and again idea of having
women in power, having women in leadership, because again when
we're talking about sexual harassment, it is that there's a
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twofold issue here. Obviously, sexual harassment in itself bad, terrible, horrible.
The other thing it does that just courages women from
being involved in city, in local government, and being involved
in these positions of power. So back to talking about Zoron,
he now is put together his immediately after winning election,
putting together his transition team. He has announced that he
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is going to have an all female transition team for
this new role. Before we get into that, I do
want to briefly go on in tangent, Samantha. I know
you were excited about this. I want to read this
beautiful New York Post headline that dropped on November third,
twenty twenty five, so the day before the election, and
it says, quote, this is the title how Zoran Mandani's
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aloof wife rama douaji. I really hope I'm pronouncing that right.
I'm so sorry if I'm not quietly steered his campaign
from behind the scenes. I didn't actually realize this until
I was putting this outline together. But this article was
written by a woman, Okay, a loof wife I would
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love to be. My goal is like I want to
be described as somebody like somebody's a loof partner that
they're like they're running the.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Right Actually I am running.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, it's a funny description. My favorite response to this
article with somebody on Twitter, I don't a social media platform.
I think it was Twitter. I'm still calling a Twitter,
I don't care. Somebody a postal thing that was basically like, wow,
the New York Post saw the most successfully run democratic
campaign of the past decade and went a woman must
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have been behind this. That's so feminist of them, which
I was like, yeah, no, that's I'm really trying to
apply here, like don't look at the man behind the curtain.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I don't know, like woman a circult way of being
like is this a compliment? Is this progressive or is
this anti progressive? I can't I can't tell. You're going
to like why with this one?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
As a podcast producerdy if anybody wants to like refer
me as like the aloof behind the scenes, steering the pot,
like I would be like yeah, saying you oh yeah,
that's good. So yeah, anyways, that was a funny headline.
I'm not gonna get super into Rama just because she
is a private individual. She is not. She was not
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the one running. It was her husband who was running.
But she's twenty eight years old. She's only a couple
of years older than me. First gen Z, first lady
in office, which hell yeah. Allegedly they met on Hinge,
which I think is really funny. About half of my
friends that are couples met on Hinge, so good for them.
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Glad it worked. Personally, I've not had that luck on Hinge,
but it was okad not bitter. Who's to say, but yeah,
she's really cool. She's an artist, she seemed again, seems
super cool in her own right. I would recommend checking
out her art. Her pottery is really cool. My mom's
a potter. So I sent her like her page immediately
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and she was like, oh my god, this is so cool.
Like gods. Anyways, so seems very cool. Rama. If you're
listening and you want to hang out, just hid me up.
You know, I'm sure you're getting a budget, but you know, like,
I'm cool, I promise, let's go. Yeah, you know, I'm
sure you have, but like, I'm cooler than everybody else.
It's reading out right now, so you should come hang
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out with me.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Obviously, obviously, let's talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
The actual transition team. We'll talk about the women that
are that are actually involved in this administration beyond of
course rama running everything from behind the scenes. So on
November six, so just two days after the election, Vogue
posted a story called who are the Women in Mum
Donnie's Transition Team. I'm gonna link this in the show
notes because I think they did a good job of
just kind of doing a quick summary of each of
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these individuals. Side note justice for teen Vogue, which recently
they have announced just being folded into Vogue. I'm very
very sad about that. Teen Vogue was one of the
things that inspired me to want to go into journalism.
So sad day really did a lot of good for
I think progressive journalism, and I think is specifically getting
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like young people, young women involved in progressive politics. But yeah,
so on Mom Donnie. In the article, it says quote
as if to illustrate just how differently he works from
former Governor Andrew Cuomo, his chief opponent, whose systemic craftsman
of women in the workplace has been a matter of
public record. Mom Donnie has announced an all female transition
team as he prepares to take over for Eric Adams
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on January first, twenty twenty six. The article then also
shouts out some of the women who advised his campaign,
so that would be Maya Honda, Sara Rahem, Tasha van Alcan,
and Faiza Ali. I am so sorry if I'm saying
any of those wrong. I was going to go through
and figure out all the pronunciation of everybody's names before
we recorded this, and then I forgot to do that,
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but this article accredited them as quote advising the mayor
elects on key issues including trans writes, abortion access, and
universal childcare. The article then goes on to highlight these
five women but are leading his team, Grace Bonilla, Melanie Hertzog,
Lena Kahan, Elena Leopold, and Maria Torres Bringer. Again, we'll
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link the article in the show notes. I don't want
to just go through and rebreathe the article, so I'm
going to try and summarize some of the biggest points here.
All of these women have very strong backgrounds in the
economic justice In Torres Springer was the deputy mayor under
Eric Adams, and she had resigned following some of the
corruption scandels that had happened with them. So very very
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qualified team. The person that I'm probably hearing the most
buzz about is Lena Khan, so I want to talk
about her really quickly. She is very cool. Leida Cohn
was the chair of the FDC Federal Trade Commission under
President Biden. Wall Street and Silicon Valley hate her, which
I think makes her pretty cool. In a speech the
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day after the election, Con was quoted saying, quote, what
we saw last night was New Yorkers not just electing
a new mayor, but clearly rejecting a politics were outside
corporate power and money to often end up dictating our politics.
And then, in an article from The Hill on CON's
appointment to Mom Nannie's team, it says of her run
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as FDC chair, quote, CON's took an aggressive posture towards
reigning in corporate power. Working with the Justice Departments Antitrust Division,
the FDC under Con blocked dozens of deals and took
on the likes of Amazon, Microsoft, Kroger, and Ticketmaster. Cohn,
citing the interest of consumers, saught to crack down on
unfair business practices such as quote junk fies and mandatory
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arbitration clauses. So congrats to everybody such as myself who
has been victimized by Ticketmaster within the past couple of years.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I got ten dollars from them. Makes up for everything.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, I got options to get tickets to a different
show that you don't want to go to specific dates before.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I have given up on getting like I was, so
I tried the last uh tour that I like, really
like big tour. I really tried to get tickets. Where
was the Mayhem lady Auga Tour? And I like couldn't
get in through the weight line. And I was just like,
I'm not, I'm done. I'm not, like this is not happening.
Uh so so heartbroken over that I did somehow better
to get errors tour tickets and I think that was
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like that was it? Like my my luck ran out
for getting tickets. Anyways, I get respect for anybody again.
Also Amazon, Microsoft, like all of these, I'd say, these
are these are if these are your enemies, that tells
me good things about you as person. And then before
becoming out Dacy chair, she had a strong anti trust
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background she had worked at New America, which is a liberal,
left leaning policy think tank, and according to the same
article from the Hill quote, she also worked as a
council to the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Anti Trust, Commercial
and an Administrative Law, and served as an associate professor
at Columbia Law School. So yeah, I want to highlight her.
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This is again, just one of the five women who
are leading this transition team. I've heard. I was reading
a bunch of different articles on this, and a couple
of the articles were saying that Khan and Forres Springer
were the kind of co chairs leading this, and then
there are other articles that were saying that the five
of them were all leading it. I'm not sure exactly
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what that structure is looking like, but either way, all
female transition team very like qualified, smart women being put
in these positions, women that like con who have a
history of taking on these mech corporations, which yeah, like
he was running his campaign on, We're going to attack
the rich, We're going to attach the ultra wealthy, We're
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going to tap tax these giant corporations that have garnered
too much power within the past couple of decades. This
all makes me feel hopeful. This makes me feel hopeful
about the direction of what he's actually going to be
able to carry out with his upcoming appointment as mayor.
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And also it shows me that he is committing to this,
to centering women, to centering making sure that women are
equally a part of this government, that are equally a
part of this team, that these are not issues again
we're just throwing under the bus, which is so so
so drastically different from again, serial sexual predator Andrew Cuomo.
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Seems like an upgrade to me personally as a person
who has a signed female at birth. That makes me
feel safer. That makes me feel Also, it is the
Quoto campaign. A lot of it was run on this
idea that was like New York has gotten so like dangerous,
and it's like we need law and order and women
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aren't safe on the subway and it was like why
because you're on the subway, Like I don't know, like
it really it was this this whole like this past
year has just been seeing the like all of these
hypocrisies and this disconnection like being broadcast onto these like
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campaign ads on whatever. And it it gives me hope
to see that people were able to recognize that for
what it was and able to understand that, like, yeah, no,
the dude with the what thirteen women? Now, I can't
I can't remember the exact memer. I think it's thirteen
women that have accus him for sexual hassment. I can't
trust the thing that he says. This other dude seems
to be putting. You know, Yes, he's new, Yes he is.
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He is a again like a he's he's thirty four.
He's like, he's gonna be the youngest mayor of New
York City. He has worked in government, he has had
that background. He's not totally unqualified, but he is also
newer to this field as opposed to you know, or
newer to this level as opposed to Eric Adams and
Puomo and whatnot. But he really does seem to be
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putting his money where it's not fit. Like he really
just seemed to be following through with the thing with
the communities. He's championing the communities that he's trying to
speak to, and that's worth a lot. But there's been
you know, a lot of American politics is a lot
of big talk and not a lot of action. And
I feel very hopeful that this is going to turn
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into legitimate action. So guess I'll do check in a
year and see how we're going. But but yeah, I think,
like I said at the top, this is kind of
the most like hope I've actually felt looking at electoral
politics in a while. I think it was a good
reminder that it was like, yeah, most people, like beyond
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just the fact that he won, the fact that this
amount of people showed up to campaign for him to vote,
like he won by this was like the most amount
of people that had come out to vote in New
York City election since like the sixties. Like that shows
to me that it's like New Yorkers do give ah,
like New Yorkers do care. We care about our neighbors.
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We're not gonna like the average person isn't gonna fall
for like yeah, let's throw trans people under the bus.
Let's throw like Muslim people under the bus, will throw whatever,
which is again, like I'll certain people within the Democratic
Party right now, issues like abortion. You know, you have
like Ezra Clined right now talking about how we need
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to run like anti abortion candidates.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
For some reason, apparently women are all the problem too,
So women are all the problem.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Trans people are the problem. It's we're behind the scenes,
a loot of scenes, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I will say, like, this feels out of my many
a years. This did bring excitement around the country, and
I think like we we are somewhat aware of what's
happening in New York City. It is the significant things
that happened. But this is like the first time that
I've seen people say, no, I really wish I could
have voted for him, like this film.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Oh, I got so many texts from yeah, all of I. Uh.
First one I got was from Bridge and in front
of the show show I also produced, and it was
just Mom Donnie in all caps, and I was like, yes, yes,
really that's exactly.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
The excitement was real, and that felt like a difference,
Like this is one of those elections that you felt
the difference. And I think it's significant to see that
the tricks the old tricks, which is kind of scary
because I am also the pessimistm that like, oh, now
the Republicans or the far right extremists have learned and
now we're gonna have to like restrategize that the old
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tactics aren't working. We don't believe them anymore. With the
fear mong green or the people who do leave them
are too old to make an impact. And I don't
not say that in a like ageous way, but like
that kind of boomer ideals that was nine to eleven.
The gen x fear mongering that happened has shifted, like
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the millennials and the gen Zers are kind of coming
back with like, but that wasn't exactly what happened, Like
looking behind the curtain of understanding that there was like
a Islamophobia that was happening more so than we were
being attacked like this like level of strategy has changed,
and New York City and like just the elections around
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the country that we saw a giant shift. I had
misspoken in a previous podcast about Mississippi actually having cut
through their super majority of Republicans. Mississippi of one of
the states that I'm scared to stop in because of
the level of like rhetoric racism there was able to
push through in such a significant way. But like Mandani
(28:59):
was again a test to see to gauge the temperature
of where we are and understanding, ah billionaires, we don't
like them like that type of level, and it's it
is exciting.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
It is exciting to see.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Of course, again, as we said previously, this now that
this has happened, let's make sure and I say this
to you because you're the one responsible, Joey in New York.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
To hold the person. It's specifically you only it's time away.
But like the same in Atlanta, we've of course every
time something goes wrong, you can't do that because here
because we didn'tvote for those people. To note, we did
(29:49):
have positive the rattle the Republican parties for sure to
I think like I'm now already seen like again like
Twitter discoorse stuff that's like, oh, well, I hope he
doesn't do the thing that like AOC and Bernie did
were they down the schooled out. And I'm like, I
think that's complicated. I think that there's plenty of things
(30:09):
I'm willing to criticize IOC and Bernie in particularly and
like more progressive politicians that are in office about what
they've done and things that I think they have failed on.
That being said, I'm like this campaign happened because of
because of Bernie and AOC, like they they set the
stage for this, like it's a sething. Yeah, and it
is like like we wouldn't have gotten like I when
(30:32):
Bernie was running in twenty sixteen, like I and I
was in high school, but that was like I know
so many people that were like learning about like the
Democratic Socialist for the first time because of that, And
now we have a Democratic Socialist mayor. And yeah, I
mean I My hope is a I think I twofold.
I hope people like you said, continue to pay attention,
(30:53):
continue to hold this administration accountable, make sure they're doing
the things that they're saying they're gonna do. I also
do hope that people like give this administration grace and
patience and whatever it acknowledge the fact that it's like
this is just one dude in office. There are you know,
plenty of other politics. A good thing I'm seeing from this,
(31:15):
which again we'll see, is that it sounds like, you know,
there's the politics side of it. Now. Whe're like I've
been hearing about like X y Z. These politicians have
been meeting with Mandami, who maybe were reluctant to endorse
him at the time, but now they're sitting down and
having a conversation where it's like that's going to mean
two things, where it's going to mean, yes, he probably
(31:36):
is gonna end up making some compromises, but that also
is going to drive those people that the art still
in power more left, Like that is going to like
signal to them like they also need to be like
paying attention. I think I'll be real, I was shocked
and a lot of people around me were shocked when
Kathy Hochel endorsed Mondamy because it took her a while
to do it. But I'll be real, like, I wouldn't
(31:57):
have been surprised if she went the whole election not
endorse him, but she did, And I think seeing that
was like a single that it was like, oh, okay,
like this is a good sign. It sounds like Democrats
are maybe learning some lessons from this, are acknowledging the
fact that it's like because there are the things people
care about, this is you know, we we've been having
(32:19):
this discussion about how do we get people to come
out to vote, how do we have back to the
issue of you know, with the Trump administration, there was
a whole or the Trump election, there was a whole
conversation about young white men particularly that were like going
real right wing, that were showing up for Trump or whatever.
Young white men again some of the lower percentages as
(32:43):
opposed to other groups in New York City that were
voting for Mom Donnie, but still majority voted for Mom Donnie.
Another thing that I thought was really interesting from this
campaign there was a whole kind of movement within the
(33:04):
Mom Donny campaign that was called howt Girls for Zoran?
Have you heard about any of this? Oh my god.
That was really funny because who ever tweeted that, they
were like they made a joke or they were like
the guy from Young Sheldon and everybody. They were like,
people are mad at me for not knowing who he is.
I know who he is. It's oh my god, it's
(33:27):
it's like very famous. Uh the but it's a bit,
which I was like, yeah, somebody who but uh yes, famously,
that to me was another like generational divine moment because
I'm like, I like, I had so many friends that
I have those T shirts that I was like, this
is so funny. I really wanted a hots for fun
(33:51):
But if anybody can find all those and now it's
too late, well whatever. But like that was funny to
me because it was like, I like, those are really
things where I could see how like maybe somebody for
like an older generation could see that and be like,
is this misogynistic? Is this I don't know? But it
was like no, like I don't even know how to
exactly explain it. I think because it was started by
(34:12):
like young women. It wasn't started by him. It wasn't
starting It was started by like young women that were
volunteering in his campaign. That was sort of like it
was like a bit, it's like hot girls vote for Zauron,
you know, like it's the uh. And I again, I've
seen some criticism of an online and people being like,
I don't know, I don't know if we should be
like associating like hotness and beauty with like good But
it was like, I don't know, it's a funny. It
was a funny bit. It was fun like to me,
(34:32):
it was like a lighthearted thing. And then I bring
this up because the Cuomo campaign, one of their last
ditch efforts they tried launching and like the last month
this also again it was way too late for this,
but they tried launching cool girls for Cuomo, uh, which
just doesn't hit no votomo. That's what they would say.
(34:53):
I'll be real like it was, but it was it
was kind of funny because it did feel like it
was like and I think it was like his daughter
is somebody had come up with it, like it was
like a young woman on or not. I actually know.
I don't think it was his daughter. It was it
was somebody who was like a young woman working on
the combo campaign. But it was like like when I
first heard about it, I was like, this feels like
the like boomer response to how how girls for Zoran
(35:14):
not understanding what it is, not understanding that. It's kind
of like it's kind of a bit like it's not
really like I don't know, like it's it's like hot
girl in the like hot girl summer like Megan the
Stallion way, not in the like yeah, Victoria's secret models.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
So I knew nothing about that that.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I was like, wait, what was inter because I was
like seeing the quote, like I was like, I can't
even explain what the disconnection is. But this does feel
like the boomer attempts to rebrand that, but like they're
just not getting what the actual bit is.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Uh, that might be a millennial cringe thing, I'm assuming.
I'm assuming I did note that Mandan was a Miranda.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
He was a Miranda. He yeah, Well Cynthia Nixon, h
nor Sam. There were photos Van more than Cynthia Nixon
was running for governor wearing a shirt that says I'm
a Miranda, but I vote for Cynthia or whatever. Yeah,
was on her campaign staff. Yeah, yeah, which I found interested.
I was like, Oh, that's kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Let's go welcome many.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Ohow I didn't, but I sure did. Put in the
city's true, that's true. We need the like the Star
Wars Sex and the city like the thing. We'll do. Yeah,
I'm sure I will find one, will find one and
we'll do a live reading on the show. I guess.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Oh, I think I've already already read one. Well, I've
read a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I sure have. Oh one. I actually I did promise
I'll do I'll do a quick Okay. At the top,
I was talking about how I don't think we should
stand politicians. I made the mistake of commenting on a
TikTok that went viral that was somebody edited together clips
(37:25):
of Zaron Bumdani and Cuomo and the TV show Daredevil. Uh,
because they were pointing out the fact that he kind
of looks like the dudeh plays Daredevil and that what's
his face Fisk, the bad guy in that show. Uh,
looks a little bit like we not really, they're most
just sort of like old dudes. But like somebody was
(37:45):
editing together clips of it. It was a funny it
was a well made edit. I was sort of like,
this is a little bit ridiculous. Guys, I don't know
if we should be doing this. I did make the
mistake though, if you're familiar with the Daredevil franchise, I
made the mistake of commenting on this video. Uh, this
is a no. If you ever have a funny joke
du at the video, don't comment because you're just gonna
get a bunch of notifications and you're not gonna benefit
(38:07):
from it, which is what's happening to me right now.
I mean I commented it was like, does this mean
that Curtis lee Wah is the punisher?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
And I'm getting I can tell in the responses who
my guess, at least of who actually lives in has
slash has been to New York and people that have not,
because some people are like, oh my god, that's so funny. Yes,
and then the other half the comments are people being
like absolutely not, was this like dangerous racist vigilante? How
(38:33):
dare you compare him to The Punisher, whose character is
being a dangerous vigilante? Wait, there was the point where I.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Was like, hey, you guys know that, like the Punisher
is kind of inspired by he is not pro cop
like that love and like, I don't know, this is
the wholy thing.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I understand the back. I love the character of the Punitor,
I love the Punisher TV show. I agree with a
lot of the like, yes, he's not pro cop, he's
an anti cop. It is weird that like cops have
sort of and Whitesprepa says, have have co opted a
lot of his logos and stuff like that. That being said,
he's also not a like woke hero, Like he's still
a dude whose entire thing is like taking vigilante justice
(39:18):
too far. I don't know, Like I was like, it's
still a cautionary title, guys, We're aware of this, right,
It's I think actually he might be fairly similar to
courteous Lee Wap. But so yeah, my two points there
One funny video. I've seen way too many people editing
(39:38):
together videos of fictional characters and Zora and Mom Donnie
and trying to argue they're the same. Stop stop doing this,
let's not do this. But then also, yes, if the
notifications have been a lot, please stop liking my comment.
I should have just to edit the video and at
least gotten the likes on my page instead of just yeah.
(40:00):
I did see somebody had cross fisted its Twitter and
then like somebody had commented with a screenshot of my comment,
and I was like, that's me, that's my face, that
is my face. Why didn't know? Crazy how you post
stuff on the internet and it just social it gets
out there.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Wow, the Internet finds a way. As they say, well
once again, Joey, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
We had a.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Lot to talk about as always, and thank you for
you got the Marvel. We didn't get a start.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
One more. Matt Murdoch absolutely would be a Miranda Lawyers.
You know, there we go. I'm going to start applying this.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I've never applied this to fictional characters, to other fictional characters.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Maybe more of Miranda.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I'll come back to it.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I'll think on it.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, we need to think of This is serious business.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
We've got to get Yeah, Yeah, what do you think
Luke Skywalker would be in here?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
I would have to think about it.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Oh my god, I'm.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Like yeah, I was like first, I was like, I
want to say carry just because it's like he's a
little he's a little in his own world, maybe a
little bit of Charlotte She always like.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
This kind of romantic I can save him.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm actually going to give this
serious consideration. Yeah, this is important to my characterization of
writing Luke Skywalker. So I'm not going to think about that.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
It really is. It really is.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Send me your thoughts, I listen, don't offer or I will.
You know, I've got essays, you.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Know, I want you to send me these. We had
a two hour conversation last week about this.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Careful what you wish for? But yes, but thank you,
yes for being here, for being our New York correspondent.
We always get to love seeing you when we go
to New York.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, and we will.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I'm sure we'll revisit this in the future. But in
the meantime, where can the good listeners find you?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Hi? You can find me on Instagram, Slash some Twitter,
but I'm not really there on there anymore. I did
just have to reactivate my Blue Sky account because one
of my other shows has been using blue Sky a lot.
I don't want to be on there, but any of
the social media platforms you can find me at pat
(42:36):
not PRAT. That's p A t T n OT p
R A t T. You can also hear other shows
that I work on. I in addition to being on
this podcast, occasionally I am on the show There Are
No Girls on the Internet with Bridge to Todd. I
also am a producer for the Outspoken Slate at my Heart,
(42:59):
So if you want to hear some of my behind
the scenes work, you can check out After Lives mentioned
that earlier on the show, Season two is out now,
and the show Black dot Bem, which is also available
wherever you get your podcasts. Both of those shows actually
were recent Signal Award winners, so yay, we love that.
(43:21):
But yeah yeah check those out. Oh and sorry and
also Outlaws the ts Madison podcast. I also work on
that one. Yeah check that out.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Listeners, go check all the stuff out if you haven't already,
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(43:54):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Joey.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, well I'm happy. I'm happy for you. Jealous but happy,
which I think we do talk about in these two
episodes of kind of those conflicting emotions sometimes. So, Yes,
Joey was recently on Joey's our New York correspondent. Yes,
and if you didn't know, there was a huge mayoral
(00:49):
election in New York recently and we wanted to talk
to Joey about it and see what was going on
exactly exactly, and there was a lot to discuss. So
we did split it up, and we weren't planning to
split it up. So hopefully this doesn't sound too awkward,
but if it does, give us some grace, we had a.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Lot to say.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Also, quick content warning, we are going to be talking
about sexual assault and sexual harassment briefly in this episode,
but just wanted to mention it so you can take
care of yourself. And so let us get back into
our conversation with Joey. This is something I've been thinking
about and it makes me really sad. And it's just
(01:37):
the reality that a lot of us have had to
grow up with, especially marginalized people in any way. But
it's interesting to me that you have a candidate like
Cuomo who does have this history that got him like
kicked out and for him to be like, oh, well,
(02:00):
worry about what will happen if it's not me? And
you know, the sad reality this isn't the truth in
this case, but a lot of times, unfortunately, you have
to kind of pick between your sex predators when you're voting.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Really you really do. Yeah, no, I mean again twenty
twenty if we want, I thought anymore, that's kind of
what that was. And thank you Annie that beautiful transition.
Let's talk about the Quomo of it all, because, uh,
the the elephant in the room here on Mom Donnie.
(02:38):
Of course. Well, so the Republican candidate, Mom Donny was
the Democratic candidate. The Republican candidate was a man named
Curtis Leewa, who is fascinating. Uh, we're not going to
get into that now. I did just watch. Uh. I
would recommend though, if if you go on YouTube and
you look up like Curtis Leewa like interview esp the
(03:00):
one there was one where it's just him talking about
all of his cats. He is so funny. It's so funny.
And yes, also disclaimer, I'm aware that this man has
a lot of terrible policies and beliefs, that has done
a lot of messed up stuff. Again, I'm just asking
for a little bit of nuance. I can still find
him a little bit funny and acknowledge the fact that
he's done a lot of terrible things.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
So he's a fun train.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
He's a fun he's a fun Traine wreck. He's a
fun character. He's a very like New York character. Anyways,
not talking about him because that man was never gonna
win the election. Cuomo ran independently. Cuomo first of all,
lost the primary significantly, like pretty badly, and for some
reason was like, no, no, no, no no no, I should
run as an independent and and this time it'll win.
(03:46):
Once again, lost spectacularly. So that was really funny. And
at one point Eric Adams, our current mayor, was also
running independently. He did drop out, and then in doors
Cuomo there was a lot of murkiness there. There was
a lot of I would say kind of open secret
rumors about some pressure from the Trump administration about him
(04:06):
to drop out and endorse Cuomo. You know what I
will say for Curtis Leeba. He has also talked about
how he was like, I was offered money to That's
how he talked to him. He's like, oh my god. Anyway,
he does sound like like a character. Anyways, he was like,
I was offered money to drop out, and I can't
be bought and sold, which, you know what a little
bit of respect there. I gotta say again, I don't
have to agree with your policies or beliefs or anything, but.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
He had some standards.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, he had some standards. Good for you. Anyways, Cuomo.
Two failed campaigns against this guy, and at the end
of the day, the heart of his campaign really was
banking on this idea that, like the me too era
and everything we were talking about with why he resigned
in the first place, that that was just kind of
(04:51):
a blip. It was gonna go away. People don't really
care about it. And you know, this is a time
where I think it is very understandable to feel that way.
You know, we did kind of see there was a
lot of stuff that the me Too movement, there were
a lot of promises that didn't kind of follow through.
Trump is literally president of the United States again, despite
(05:13):
having multiple accusations of sexual assault. You know, there was
like the p Diddy trial recently where he got significantly
lower sentencing. Yeah, that I think people were expecting. You have,
like Chris Brown has a Grammy nomination right now. I
don't know, like there's a bazillion examples you can point
to of like this man who was accused of sexual assault,
(05:35):
who was convicted of sexual sault, whatever, and it's kind
of getting swept under the rockgund This is like, like
you said, Annie, it's usually a sort of we're all
sort of aware, we're just kind of voting for the
least awful sexual predator. And I think Pomo was kind
of banking on the fact that he was like I
could just get away with this. It's fine. Famous quote,
(05:58):
I'm not a pervert, I'm just Italian, which I'm an
Italian personally. I don't know how to respond to that. Yeah, yeah,
part of my culture think about that. I still think
about that. I'm like, huh. There were a lot of
issues with Cuomo's campaign, Like I don't think it was
(06:20):
just the sexual assaulting that was like the main issue obviously,
Like there was the whole corruption scandal in general. There
was you know, the COVID mishandling. There was uh, the
fact that he was backed by a lot of Trump's
donors and the fact that Trump endorsed him towards the end. Uh,
there was the fact that he literally did not live
in New York City, like he lived pretty obviously lived
(06:44):
in Westchester and was like crashing at his daughter's apartment
or something, so he ran. It was some weird like
loophole thing that they did. Anyways, another really funny, courteously
while line from this this whole election cycle was about
quote what we said, uh, killing granny's and grabbing fannies again.
(07:08):
I'm so I'm so glad that man was there for
the commentary at least, like Joey, have you ever watched
thirty Rock, which is I watched?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Okay, So there is towards the end this character where
they are running for mayor, I believe, and Tracy Morgan
is like a doppelgamer, but they people love him because
he's so ridiculous and loud and so bad. But at
the same time, his like stupidity, idiot idiocy really like
(07:40):
made him endearing to like. According to the show, like
they were making a statement about the fact that if
you can be stupid enough, yeah, you can be ignorant
enough that they will ignore that because they're going to
be entertained by.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
This right and mocking the system. But it kind of
sounds like this is what that's kind of what happened.
And I'm trying to again, like I've seen all the
thing pieces now is that I respect being like guys
like be careful with this guy. Actually all these terrible
policies and I'm like, I know, I know, and I
do hope people remember that he does have some banger
one liners though, you know, so I don't know, Uh,
(08:17):
that was the most gen c or statement of that politics.
So that thing I heard in minute, Like yeah, so
I think again, there were all of these issues with Cuomo.
There were there was various problems people had with him.
I would say, I think the one that I got
talked about the most was the fact that he was
(08:37):
a serial sexual predator. And I did just very unofficial poll,
but I kind of just reached out to a bunch
of friends in New York and I particularly made a
point to talk to some of my friends that are
like say straight met into and just be like, hey,
like just off top of your head, I know you'
all voted for Zauran, but like when you're thinking about
the CLOMO campaign, like, what do you think was like
(08:58):
the number one issue with it? Like was the number
one thing that went wrong? And they all for like
were like either we're like yeah, the sexual harassment and
the corruption. Like so it was either the answers were
all either the sexual harassment or sexualcraftsmen in corruption, like
the combination of the show, which it all kind of
came out at the same time, so it makes sense.
But that was interesting to me too, is I And
again like this is not an official poll. This was
me texting a munch of my friends that also is
(09:20):
a bubbularist on itself, but I was like, yeah, even
the people like I know who, maybe this isn't the
biggest issue top of mine. Again, I was. I tried
to ask all of my friends that were like sis
head men that are you know, no fault to them,
well meaning, but like this isn't gonna be the bigest issue.
They're gonna think of out just because it doesn't predict
in them as much. And like across the board, it
was like, yes, like this guy, he's a sexual predator
(09:43):
that has taged his image, which to me, I think
signals that, yes, maybe we didn't reach the full goals
of the met Too movement, but but I don't think
it is totally failed. And I think this is a
sign that like, it's still worth fighting, that still fight,
it is still worth talking about these things, and it's
still it is not a just like and nobody cares
(10:05):
at the end of the day. And so during the
final debate leading up to the election on October twenty second,
mom Donnie actually brought two of the women who had
accused Quomo of sexual harassment, Charlotte Bennett and Karen Hinton,
as guests to his debate. Obviously, this is this is
political tactic, is a debate tactic. He's not the first
person to do this, trying to throw your opponent off
(10:26):
their game. But at the same time, it is like, yeah,
you're getting that message across loud and clear that you're
like this man, like these are the women, these are
two of the many women that he hurt. We're putting
them front and center. We are not We're not just
saying like, oh, he's a sexual like we are actually
centering our voices. We are making sure they're heard. We're
(10:50):
not like gonna glaze over this issue. Like he made
a point to bring it up. He made a point
to bring it. There was a really great line that
he had that Zorn had I am now talking about
and I'm not still talking about funny things, Curtis Lee
why ha said, but the Zortmandami and one of the
debates said is something where he uh, somebody had brought
up like you don't have a lot of experience whatever,
and he was like, God, I'm misquoting this, but this
(11:13):
is the gist, but I don't have an experience. I'm
up for an integrity, but there's no like, no matter
how much experience you have, you will never be able
to like you don't have the integrity to kind of
match that or whatever like that Basically was lin, I'm
butsterering the line, but it was it was like it
really got to the point. I've seen that clip go
around TikTok a bunch and it was like one of
(11:33):
the sixth parties. He was like directly calling out like, yeah,
this is somebody who like, we're not gonna glaze over
the fact that he was uh he resigned in disgrace
for multiple corruption charges and uh, you know, a series
of sexual harassment claims. We're not gonna we're not gonna
just glive, but we're not gonna glaze over that. We're
not gonna glaze over that. And you know, and my
(11:55):
thinking too is like who's the who's to say what's
gonna happen the people un for sexualssault is one of
those issues to sexual harassment. It is like across the board,
it shows up and left his spaces too. This gives
me hope that it like if there were a similar
thing to happen within the Mountomi inustration, if there was
an individual to do this like this gives me hope
that it's like they're not going to just try to
push them under the table. Again, who's to say what
will happen? Is all just speculation, but this shows to
(12:17):
me that it is like, no, this is something we're
trying to prioritize. Uh, we like we're not going to
just be like, uh, yeah he did that, but we're
not going to focus too long in it because we
have this problem too, which again you can't say that
for all Democratic candidates because sometimes it's like you can't
really talk about the Trump stuff because you're just as
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bad at all of this whatever. But yeah, I think
I think at the end of the day, the thing
that I think stood out there were a lot of
things about this election that were that gave me a
lot of hope for the future and showed me that
like things are changing, that people do want to better tomorrow,
that like there's hope for the Democratic Party to like
move further left on a lot of these issues. And
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I think just seeing the response to Cuomo running and
see how miserably he lost both times, that was a
big thing to me, just seeing the fact that it's like,
we're not letting this We're not letting people forget about
what happens in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two. We're
not letting people forget, you know, all of the terrible
things that happened in COVID. We're not We're not just
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gonna move on. We're not gonna just swip this under
the rug and like pretend like sexual sol sexual harassment
isn't a big issue. Because it is so. Then, yeah,
going going back to Zoron and again idea of having
women in power, having women in leadership, because again when
we're talking about sexual harassment, it is that there's a
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twofold issue here. Obviously, sexual harassment in itself bad, terrible, horrible.
The other thing it does that just courages women from
being involved in city, in local government, and being involved
in these positions of power. So back to talking about Zoron,
he now is put together his immediately after winning election,
putting together his transition team. He has announced that he
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is going to have an all female transition team for
this new role. Before we get into that, I do
want to briefly go on in tangent, Samantha. I know
you were excited about this. I want to read this
beautiful New York Post headline that dropped on November third,
twenty twenty five, so the day before the election, and
it says, quote, this is the title how Zoran Mandani's
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aloof wife rama douaji. I really hope I'm pronouncing that right.
I'm so sorry if I'm not quietly steered his campaign
from behind the scenes. I didn't actually realize this until
I was putting this outline together. But this article was
written by a woman, Okay, a loof wife I would
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love to be. My goal is like I want to
be described as somebody like somebody's a loof partner that
they're like they're running the.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Right Actually I am running.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, it's a funny description. My favorite response to this
article with somebody on Twitter, I don't a social media platform.
I think it was Twitter. I'm still calling a Twitter,
I don't care. Somebody a postal thing that was basically like, wow,
the New York Post saw the most successfully run democratic
campaign of the past decade and went a woman must
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have been behind this. That's so feminist of them, which
I was like, yeah, no, that's I'm really trying to
apply here, like don't look at the man behind the curtain.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I don't know, like woman a circult way of being
like is this a compliment? Is this progressive or is
this anti progressive? I can't I can't tell. You're going
to like why with this one?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
As a podcast producerdy if anybody wants to like refer
me as like the aloof behind the scenes, steering the pot,
like I would be like yeah, saying you oh yeah,
that's good. So yeah, anyways, that was a funny headline.
I'm not gonna get super into Rama just because she
is a private individual. She is not. She was not
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the one running. It was her husband who was running.
But she's twenty eight years old. She's only a couple
of years older than me. First gen Z, first lady
in office, which hell yeah. Allegedly they met on Hinge,
which I think is really funny. About half of my
friends that are couples met on Hinge, so good for them.
(16:31):
Glad it worked. Personally, I've not had that luck on Hinge,
but it was okad not bitter. Who's to say, but yeah,
she's really cool. She's an artist, she seemed again, seems
super cool in her own right. I would recommend checking
out her art. Her pottery is really cool. My mom's
a potter. So I sent her like her page immediately
(16:54):
and she was like, oh my god, this is so cool.
Like gods. Anyways, so seems very cool. Rama. If you're
listening and you want to hang out, just hid me up.
You know, I'm sure you're getting a budget, but you know, like,
I'm cool, I promise, let's go. Yeah, you know, I'm
sure you have, but like, I'm cooler than everybody else.
It's reading out right now, so you should come hang
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out with me.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Obviously, obviously, let's talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
The actual transition team. We'll talk about the women that
are that are actually involved in this administration beyond of
course rama running everything from behind the scenes. So on
November six, so just two days after the election, Vogue
posted a story called who are the Women in Mum
Donnie's Transition Team. I'm gonna link this in the show
notes because I think they did a good job of
just kind of doing a quick summary of each of
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these individuals. Side note justice for teen Vogue, which recently
they have announced just being folded into Vogue. I'm very
very sad about that. Teen Vogue was one of the
things that inspired me to want to go into journalism.
So sad day really did a lot of good for
I think progressive journalism, and I think is specifically getting
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like young people, young women involved in progressive politics. But yeah,
so on Mom Donnie. In the article, it says quote
as if to illustrate just how differently he works from
former Governor Andrew Cuomo, his chief opponent, whose systemic craftsman
of women in the workplace has been a matter of
public record. Mom Donnie has announced an all female transition
team as he prepares to take over for Eric Adams
(18:35):
on January first, twenty twenty six. The article then also
shouts out some of the women who advised his campaign,
so that would be Maya Honda, Sara Rahem, Tasha van Alcan,
and Faiza Ali. I am so sorry if I'm saying
any of those wrong. I was going to go through
and figure out all the pronunciation of everybody's names before
we recorded this, and then I forgot to do that,
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but this article accredited them as quote advising the mayor
elects on key issues including trans writes, abortion access, and
universal childcare. The article then goes on to highlight these
five women but are leading his team, Grace Bonilla, Melanie Hertzog,
Lena Kahan, Elena Leopold, and Maria Torres Bringer. Again, we'll
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link the article in the show notes. I don't want
to just go through and rebreathe the article, so I'm
going to try and summarize some of the biggest points here.
All of these women have very strong backgrounds in the
economic justice In Torres Springer was the deputy mayor under
Eric Adams, and she had resigned following some of the
corruption scandels that had happened with them. So very very
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qualified team. The person that I'm probably hearing the most
buzz about is Lena Khan, so I want to talk
about her really quickly. She is very cool. Leida Cohn
was the chair of the FDC Federal Trade Commission under
President Biden. Wall Street and Silicon Valley hate her, which
I think makes her pretty cool. In a speech the
(20:04):
day after the election, Con was quoted saying, quote, what
we saw last night was New Yorkers not just electing
a new mayor, but clearly rejecting a politics were outside
corporate power and money to often end up dictating our politics.
And then, in an article from The Hill on CON's
appointment to Mom Nannie's team, it says of her run
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as FDC chair, quote, CON's took an aggressive posture towards
reigning in corporate power. Working with the Justice Departments Antitrust Division,
the FDC under Con blocked dozens of deals and took
on the likes of Amazon, Microsoft, Kroger, and Ticketmaster. Cohn,
citing the interest of consumers, saught to crack down on
unfair business practices such as quote junk fies and mandatory
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arbitration clauses. So congrats to everybody such as myself who
has been victimized by Ticketmaster within the past couple of years.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I got ten dollars from them. Makes up for everything.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, I got options to get tickets to a different
show that you don't want to go to specific dates before.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I have given up on getting like I was, so
I tried the last uh tour that I like, really
like big tour. I really tried to get tickets. Where
was the Mayhem lady Auga Tour? And I like couldn't
get in through the weight line. And I was just like,
I'm not, I'm done. I'm not, like this is not happening.
Uh so so heartbroken over that I did somehow better
to get errors tour tickets and I think that was
(21:32):
like that was it? Like my my luck ran out
for getting tickets. Anyways, I get respect for anybody again.
Also Amazon, Microsoft, like all of these, I'd say, these
are these are if these are your enemies, that tells
me good things about you as person. And then before
becoming out Dacy chair, she had a strong anti trust
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background she had worked at New America, which is a liberal,
left leaning policy think tank, and according to the same
article from the Hill quote, she also worked as a
council to the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Anti Trust, Commercial
and an Administrative Law, and served as an associate professor
at Columbia Law School. So yeah, I want to highlight her.
(22:16):
This is again, just one of the five women who
are leading this transition team. I've heard. I was reading
a bunch of different articles on this, and a couple
of the articles were saying that Khan and Forres Springer
were the kind of co chairs leading this, and then
there are other articles that were saying that the five
of them were all leading it. I'm not sure exactly
(22:36):
what that structure is looking like, but either way, all
female transition team very like qualified, smart women being put
in these positions, women that like con who have a
history of taking on these mech corporations, which yeah, like
he was running his campaign on, We're going to attack
the rich, We're going to attach the ultra wealthy, We're
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going to tap tax these giant corporations that have garnered
too much power within the past couple of decades. This
all makes me feel hopeful. This makes me feel hopeful
about the direction of what he's actually going to be
able to carry out with his upcoming appointment as mayor.
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And also it shows me that he is committing to this,
to centering women, to centering making sure that women are
equally a part of this government, that are equally a
part of this team, that these are not issues again
we're just throwing under the bus, which is so so
so drastically different from again, serial sexual predator Andrew Cuomo.
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Seems like an upgrade to me personally as a person
who has a signed female at birth. That makes me
feel safer. That makes me feel Also, it is the
Quoto campaign. A lot of it was run on this
idea that was like New York has gotten so like dangerous,
and it's like we need law and order and women
(24:05):
aren't safe on the subway and it was like why
because you're on the subway, Like I don't know, like
it really it was this this whole like this past
year has just been seeing the like all of these
hypocrisies and this disconnection like being broadcast onto these like
(24:26):
campaign ads on whatever. And it it gives me hope
to see that people were able to recognize that for
what it was and able to understand that, like, yeah, no,
the dude with the what thirteen women? Now, I can't
I can't remember the exact memer. I think it's thirteen
women that have accus him for sexual hassment. I can't
trust the thing that he says. This other dude seems
to be putting. You know, Yes, he's new, Yes he is.
(24:49):
He is a again like a he's he's thirty four.
He's like, he's gonna be the youngest mayor of New
York City. He has worked in government, he has had
that background. He's not totally unqualified, but he is also
newer to this field as opposed to you know, or
newer to this level as opposed to Eric Adams and
Puomo and whatnot. But he really does seem to be
(25:12):
putting his money where it's not fit. Like he really
just seemed to be following through with the thing with
the communities. He's championing the communities that he's trying to
speak to, and that's worth a lot. But there's been
you know, a lot of American politics is a lot
of big talk and not a lot of action. And
I feel very hopeful that this is going to turn
(25:33):
into legitimate action. So guess I'll do check in a
year and see how we're going. But but yeah, I think,
like I said at the top, this is kind of
the most like hope I've actually felt looking at electoral
politics in a while. I think it was a good
reminder that it was like, yeah, most people, like beyond
(25:54):
just the fact that he won, the fact that this
amount of people showed up to campaign for him to vote,
like he won by this was like the most amount
of people that had come out to vote in New
York City election since like the sixties. Like that shows
to me that it's like New Yorkers do give ah,
like New Yorkers do care. We care about our neighbors.
(26:16):
We're not gonna like the average person isn't gonna fall
for like yeah, let's throw trans people under the bus.
Let's throw like Muslim people under the bus, will throw whatever,
which is again, like I'll certain people within the Democratic
Party right now, issues like abortion. You know, you have
like Ezra Clined right now talking about how we need
(26:38):
to run like anti abortion candidates.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
For some reason, apparently women are all the problem too,
So women are all the problem.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Trans people are the problem. It's we're behind the scenes,
a loot of scenes, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
I will say, like, this feels out of my many
a years. This did bring excitement around the country, and
I think like we we are somewhat aware of what's
happening in New York City. It is the significant things
that happened. But this is like the first time that
I've seen people say, no, I really wish I could
have voted for him, like this film.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Oh, I got so many texts from yeah, all of I. Uh.
First one I got was from Bridge and in front
of the show show I also produced, and it was
just Mom Donnie in all caps, and I was like, yes, yes,
really that's exactly.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
The excitement was real, and that felt like a difference,
Like this is one of those elections that you felt
the difference. And I think it's significant to see that
the tricks the old tricks, which is kind of scary
because I am also the pessimistm that like, oh, now
the Republicans or the far right extremists have learned and
now we're gonna have to like restrategize that the old
(27:54):
tactics aren't working. We don't believe them anymore. With the
fear mong green or the people who do leave them
are too old to make an impact. And I don't
not say that in a like ageous way, but like
that kind of boomer ideals that was nine to eleven.
The gen x fear mongering that happened has shifted, like
(28:15):
the millennials and the gen Zers are kind of coming
back with like, but that wasn't exactly what happened, Like
looking behind the curtain of understanding that there was like
a Islamophobia that was happening more so than we were
being attacked like this like level of strategy has changed,
and New York City and like just the elections around
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the country that we saw a giant shift. I had
misspoken in a previous podcast about Mississippi actually having cut
through their super majority of Republicans. Mississippi of one of
the states that I'm scared to stop in because of
the level of like rhetoric racism there was able to
push through in such a significant way. But like Mandani
(28:59):
was again a test to see to gauge the temperature
of where we are and understanding, ah billionaires, we don't
like them like that type of level, and it's it
is exciting.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
It is exciting to see.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Of course, again, as we said previously, this now that
this has happened, let's make sure and I say this
to you because you're the one responsible, Joey in New York.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
To hold the person. It's specifically you only it's time away.
But like the same in Atlanta, we've of course every
time something goes wrong, you can't do that because here
because we didn'tvote for those people. To note, we did
(29:49):
have positive the rattle the Republican parties for sure to
I think like I'm now already seen like again like
Twitter discoorse stuff that's like, oh, well, I hope he
doesn't do the thing that like AOC and Bernie did
were they down the schooled out. And I'm like, I
think that's complicated. I think that there's plenty of things
(30:09):
I'm willing to criticize IOC and Bernie in particularly and
like more progressive politicians that are in office about what
they've done and things that I think they have failed on.
That being said, I'm like this campaign happened because of
because of Bernie and AOC, like they they set the
stage for this, like it's a sething. Yeah, and it
is like like we wouldn't have gotten like I when
(30:32):
Bernie was running in twenty sixteen, like I and I
was in high school, but that was like I know
so many people that were like learning about like the
Democratic Socialist for the first time because of that, And
now we have a Democratic Socialist mayor. And yeah, I
mean I My hope is a I think I twofold.
I hope people like you said, continue to pay attention,
(30:53):
continue to hold this administration accountable, make sure they're doing
the things that they're saying they're gonna do. I also
do hope that people like give this administration grace and
patience and whatever it acknowledge the fact that it's like
this is just one dude in office. There are you know,
plenty of other politics. A good thing I'm seeing from this,
(31:15):
which again we'll see, is that it sounds like, you know,
there's the politics side of it. Now. Whe're like I've
been hearing about like X y Z. These politicians have
been meeting with Mandami, who maybe were reluctant to endorse
him at the time, but now they're sitting down and
having a conversation where it's like that's going to mean
two things, where it's going to mean, yes, he probably
(31:36):
is gonna end up making some compromises, but that also
is going to drive those people that the art still
in power more left, Like that is going to like
signal to them like they also need to be like
paying attention. I think I'll be real, I was shocked
and a lot of people around me were shocked when
Kathy Hochel endorsed Mondamy because it took her a while
to do it. But I'll be real, like, I wouldn't
(31:57):
have been surprised if she went the whole election not
endorse him, but she did, And I think seeing that
was like a single that it was like, oh, okay,
like this is a good sign. It sounds like Democrats
are maybe learning some lessons from this, are acknowledging the
fact that it's like because there are the things people
care about, this is you know, we we've been having
(32:19):
this discussion about how do we get people to come
out to vote, how do we have back to the
issue of you know, with the Trump administration, there was
a whole or the Trump election, there was a whole
conversation about young white men particularly that were like going
real right wing, that were showing up for Trump or whatever.
Young white men again some of the lower percentages as
(32:43):
opposed to other groups in New York City that were
voting for Mom Donnie, but still majority voted for Mom Donnie.
Another thing that I thought was really interesting from this
campaign there was a whole kind of movement within the
(33:04):
Mom Donny campaign that was called howt Girls for Zoran?
Have you heard about any of this? Oh my god.
That was really funny because who ever tweeted that, they
were like they made a joke or they were like
the guy from Young Sheldon and everybody. They were like,
people are mad at me for not knowing who he is.
I know who he is. It's oh my god, it's
(33:27):
it's like very famous. Uh the but it's a bit,
which I was like, yeah, somebody who but uh yes, famously,
that to me was another like generational divine moment because
I'm like, I like, I had so many friends that
I have those T shirts that I was like, this
is so funny. I really wanted a hots for fun
(33:51):
But if anybody can find all those and now it's
too late, well whatever. But like that was funny to
me because it was like, I like, those are really
things where I could see how like maybe somebody for
like an older generation could see that and be like,
is this misogynistic? Is this I don't know? But it
was like no, like I don't even know how to
exactly explain it. I think because it was started by
(34:12):
like young women. It wasn't started by him. It wasn't
starting It was started by like young women that were
volunteering in his campaign. That was sort of like it
was like a bit, it's like hot girls vote for Zauron,
you know, like it's the uh. And I again, I've
seen some criticism of an online and people being like,
I don't know, I don't know if we should be
like associating like hotness and beauty with like good But
it was like, I don't know, it's a funny. It
was a funny bit. It was fun like to me,
(34:32):
it was like a lighthearted thing. And then I bring
this up because the Cuomo campaign, one of their last
ditch efforts they tried launching and like the last month
this also again it was way too late for this,
but they tried launching cool girls for Cuomo, uh, which
just doesn't hit no votomo. That's what they would say.
(34:53):
I'll be real like it was, but it was it
was kind of funny because it did feel like it
was like and I think it was like his daughter
is somebody had come up with it, like it was
like a young woman on or not. I actually know.
I don't think it was his daughter. It was it
was somebody who was like a young woman working on
the combo campaign. But it was like like when I
first heard about it, I was like, this feels like
the like boomer response to how how girls for Zoran
(35:14):
not understanding what it is, not understanding that. It's kind
of like it's kind of a bit like it's not
really like I don't know, like it's it's like hot
girl in the like hot girl summer like Megan the
Stallion way, not in the like yeah, Victoria's secret models.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
So I knew nothing about that that.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I was like, wait, what was inter because I was
like seeing the quote, like I was like, I can't
even explain what the disconnection is. But this does feel
like the boomer attempts to rebrand that, but like they're
just not getting what the actual bit is.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Uh, that might be a millennial cringe thing, I'm assuming.
I'm assuming I did note that Mandan was a Miranda.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
He was a Miranda. He yeah, Well Cynthia Nixon, h
nor Sam. There were photos Van more than Cynthia Nixon
was running for governor wearing a shirt that says I'm
a Miranda, but I vote for Cynthia or whatever. Yeah,
was on her campaign staff. Yeah, yeah, which I found interested.
I was like, Oh, that's kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Let's go welcome many.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Ohow I didn't, but I sure did. Put in the
city's true, that's true. We need the like the Star
Wars Sex and the city like the thing. We'll do. Yeah,
I'm sure I will find one, will find one and
we'll do a live reading on the show. I guess.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Oh, I think I've already already read one. Well, I've
read a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I sure have. Oh one. I actually I did promise
I'll do I'll do a quick Okay. At the top,
I was talking about how I don't think we should
stand politicians. I made the mistake of commenting on a
TikTok that went viral that was somebody edited together clips
(37:25):
of Zaron Bumdani and Cuomo and the TV show Daredevil. Uh,
because they were pointing out the fact that he kind
of looks like the dudeh plays Daredevil and that what's
his face Fisk, the bad guy in that show. Uh,
looks a little bit like we not really, they're most
just sort of like old dudes. But like somebody was
(37:45):
editing together clips of it. It was a funny it
was a well made edit. I was sort of like,
this is a little bit ridiculous. Guys, I don't know
if we should be doing this. I did make the
mistake though, if you're familiar with the Daredevil franchise, I
made the mistake of commenting on this video. Uh, this
is a no. If you ever have a funny joke
du at the video, don't comment because you're just gonna
get a bunch of notifications and you're not gonna benefit
(38:07):
from it, which is what's happening to me right now.
I mean I commented it was like, does this mean
that Curtis lee Wah is the punisher?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
And I'm getting I can tell in the responses who
my guess, at least of who actually lives in has
slash has been to New York and people that have not,
because some people are like, oh my god, that's so funny. Yes,
and then the other half the comments are people being
like absolutely not, was this like dangerous racist vigilante? How
(38:33):
dare you compare him to The Punisher, whose character is
being a dangerous vigilante? Wait, there was the point where I.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Was like, hey, you guys know that, like the Punisher
is kind of inspired by he is not pro cop
like that love and like, I don't know, this is
the wholy thing.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
I understand the back. I love the character of the Punitor,
I love the Punisher TV show. I agree with a
lot of the like, yes, he's not pro cop, he's
an anti cop. It is weird that like cops have
sort of and Whitesprepa says, have have co opted a
lot of his logos and stuff like that. That being said,
he's also not a like woke hero, Like he's still
a dude whose entire thing is like taking vigilante justice
(39:18):
too far. I don't know, Like I was like, it's
still a cautionary title, guys, We're aware of this, right,
It's I think actually he might be fairly similar to
courteous Lee Wap. But so yeah, my two points there
One funny video. I've seen way too many people editing
(39:38):
together videos of fictional characters and Zora and Mom Donnie
and trying to argue they're the same. Stop stop doing this,
let's not do this. But then also, yes, if the
notifications have been a lot, please stop liking my comment.
I should have just to edit the video and at
least gotten the likes on my page instead of just yeah.
(40:00):
I did see somebody had cross fisted its Twitter and
then like somebody had commented with a screenshot of my comment,
and I was like, that's me, that's my face, that
is my face. Why didn't know? Crazy how you post
stuff on the internet and it just social it gets
out there.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Wow, the Internet finds a way. As they say, well
once again, Joey, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
We had a.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Lot to talk about as always, and thank you for
you got the Marvel. We didn't get a start.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
One more. Matt Murdoch absolutely would be a Miranda Lawyers.
You know, there we go. I'm going to start applying this.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
I've never applied this to fictional characters, to other fictional characters.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Maybe more of Miranda.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I'll come back to it.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
I'll think on it.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, we need to think of This is serious business.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
We've got to get Yeah, Yeah, what do you think
Luke Skywalker would be in here?
Speaker 1 (40:57):
I would have to think about it.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Oh my god, I'm.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Like yeah, I was like first, I was like, I
want to say carry just because it's like he's a
little he's a little in his own world, maybe a
little bit of Charlotte She always like.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
This kind of romantic I can save him.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm actually going to give this
serious consideration. Yeah, this is important to my characterization of
writing Luke Skywalker. So I'm not going to think about that.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
It really is. It really is.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Send me your thoughts, I listen, don't offer or I will.
You know, I've got essays, you.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Know, I want you to send me these. We had
a two hour conversation last week about this.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Careful what you wish for? But yes, but thank you,
yes for being here, for being our New York correspondent.
We always get to love seeing you when we go
to New York.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, and we will.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I'm sure we'll revisit this in the future. But in
the meantime, where can the good listeners find you?
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Hi? You can find me on Instagram, Slash some Twitter,
but I'm not really there on there anymore. I did
just have to reactivate my Blue Sky account because one
of my other shows has been using blue Sky a lot.
I don't want to be on there, but any of
the social media platforms you can find me at pat
(42:36):
not PRAT. That's p A t T n OT p
R A t T. You can also hear other shows
that I work on. I in addition to being on
this podcast, occasionally I am on the show There Are
No Girls on the Internet with Bridge to Todd. I
also am a producer for the Outspoken Slate at my Heart,
(42:59):
So if you want to hear some of my behind
the scenes work, you can check out After Lives mentioned
that earlier on the show, Season two is out now,
and the show Black dot Bem, which is also available
wherever you get your podcasts. Both of those shows actually
were recent Signal Award winners, so yay, we love that.
(43:21):
But yeah yeah check those out. Oh and sorry and
also Outlaws the ts Madison podcast. I also work on
that one. Yeah check that out.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Listeners, go check all the stuff out if you haven't already,
and thank you again Joey for being here and listeners.
If you would like to contact us, you can you
can email us at Hello at Stuffhanever Told You dot Com.
You can find us on Blue Skype, Mom Stuff podcast,
or on Instagram and TikTok at stuff I Never Told You.
We're also on YouTube. We have some new merchandise at
copp Bureau, and we have but you can get wherever
(43:54):
you get your books. Thanks us always too, our super
produce Christina, our executive produced Maya, and your contributor Joey.
Thank you and thanks to you for listening. Stefan Never
Told You is production by Heart Radio. For more podcasts
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