September 19, 2023 • 18 mins
Jurassic Park's Dr. Ellie Sattler will dig through dino droppings and inherit the Earth. We talk about her legacy and why she was important. And Anney provides an update on her very important Jurassic Park cards.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Annie, and welcome to stuff one never
told you protection of iHeartRadio. And yes, unfortunately I am
still by myself. But I think that's okay. I mean,
I'm sad I miss Samantha, but I think it's okay
for this one because we have talked about Jurassic Park
(00:27):
before on here, She's talked about it on the dailies
like guyst So I think she'll be fine with not
being present for this one. As much as we'll miss her.
She will be back. Do not worry. I yeah, it's
just a scheduling thing and an illness thing, but she
will be back. So today, yes we are talking about
(00:50):
jesssic Park. We are talking about doctor Ellie Sadler, who
I wasn't going to necessarily do, but it just felt
so fitting because it is the thirtieth anniversary of Jurassic
Park and we have been talking a lot about disaster
movies lately. I think some of that is coming out
after this, some of that before, but like a lot
(01:12):
of content around it, and I was like, you know what,
just want to mark it off my list. Also, I
have a really fun update about my cards that I mentioned.
My Jurassic Park collectible cards that I had as a kid. Well,
what's fun? You want to stick around for the update? Okay,
so I would say, see our recent women in Creature
(01:33):
features deserves to die. That whole idea women in Archaeology
and paleontology. I feel like there's something I'm forgetting. I
talk about her a lot. She was an impactful character.
I told the story in our Archaeology Paleontology episode. I
(01:53):
watched this movie when I was not supposed to as
a kid. I loved her. I just as her at
Dragon Con the first time I went, she was one
of my costumes, and a lot of people were addressing
her this year because it is the thirtieth anniversary, and
(02:14):
she came up. We had a pretty rousing me and
my friend's conversation about Jurassic Park and the newer Jurassic
Parks and Michael Crichton and I learned a lot. I
learned a lot. But all right, that being said, let's
get into it, doctor Ellie Sadler, based on Michael Crichton's books.
The character in the books who I learned in this
(02:35):
conversation is pretty problematic. It was first introduced to a
lot of us in the nineteen ninety three blockbolster hit
Jurassic Park. She's played by Laura Dern. She has a
paleobotanist invited to Jurassic Park along with her coworker, Alan
Grant by John Hammond, who is looking to get some
experts to sign off on the safety of having basically
(02:56):
a theme park which neetically engineered dinosaurs. This is one
of those things where I'm not sure how which I
need to explain, but basically, this rich guy, doctor Jonahmmon,
has made this theme park with genetically engineered dinosaurs and
he wants experts in the field to sign off on
it so he can get the lawyers to back off. Okay, So,
at first Ellie is in awe of the extinct plants
(03:19):
she's seeing of the dinosaurs, but it quickly turns to concern,
and she voices her opinion that she believes that the
whole thing is dangerous and that when it comes to
the plants in particular, which is her area of expertise,
they were chosen because they looked good even though they
were deadly. When they go on their tour of the park,
(03:41):
she tries to get Alan to ride with kids Tim
and Lex who are him AND's grandkids. I had such
a crush on Tim when I was a kid. But
Alan is able to escape them. And if you haven't
seen the movie or you don't remember, Ellie and Allen
get into a disagreement when the movie starts about kids,
because she really wants them, he doesn't. It's never outright
(04:03):
clear that they're in a relationship, even though Alan at
one part says, ee it they are, but it could
be he's just trying to scare off doctor Ian Malcolm
played by Jeff Goldbloom, who was flirting with her. Uh
for sure. So as this tour goes on, they simple
upon us sick Tricera toops and Ellie cries happy tears
(04:25):
and becomes determined to figure out why it's sick, going
arm deep into a huge pile of dinos to analyze
it without qualms. Tenacious Ian says, and a lot of
people point to the scene is like, oh, she's that,
because it wasn't. It wasn't played as like, oh, this
woman is doing this, how silly or how gross or
(04:48):
how improper. It was more like she was just doing
her job, and no one really thought that much of
it other than tenacious, very willing to get her hands dirty,
might say. She elects to stay with the triceratops, meaning
she is not attacked by the t rex. The people
who continue on the tour are. When she learns the
(05:12):
others maybe in danger. After the dinosaurs escape, she volunteers
to go with hunter Robert Muldoon to retrieve them, which
ultimately results in them rescuing Ian and escaping at rampaging
t Rex. Once they escape, Ellie helps heal Ian and
tries to convince Hammond that what matters is saving the
ones they love, not the park. She once again volunteers
(05:34):
to tread dangerous territory with Muldoon to turn the power on,
arguing with Hammond about sexism and survival situations when he
says he's really the one that should be going. With
the help of Muldoon and later Ian, she is able
to sprint through a jungle while being hunted by raptors,
turn on the power, and then escape said raptors when
it turns out they are in the power station. One
(05:57):
in particular, a lot of you make mention of the
fact she loses her pink over shirt during the scene.
I never really thought anything of that, but huh. Interesting
she reunites with Alan, and together they are all able
to escape the park. In the first movie, I'm going
to briefly go over her appearances and the other ones.
I'm not nearly as familiar with that, but I have
(06:19):
seen all of them. Ellie briefly reappears in Jurassic Park three,
when it's revealed she married a man from the State
Department and they have two kids together. A part of
the reason she and Alan didn't work out is implied
to be their disagreement about having kids and that he
loves dinosaurs. First, she had become a children's writer. I
(06:40):
really don't remember that, but that's what I read. She
and Alan were still friends, however, and he's stopped by
Ellie's house regularly and knew her husband and kids. They
knew him. She helped save Alan during the events of
Jurassic Park three, basically calls her and is like send everyone.
She next appeared cinematically, at least in Jurassic World Dominion,
(07:05):
where we see her doing research on swarms of giant
genetically engineered locust eating crops. She discovers the Big bad
Evil Company is responsible and sets out to prove what
they're doing, joining up with Alan and Ian and later
all the new crew. They're able to escape and they
go to DC to testify about what they've learned. Ellie
(07:26):
befriends both Mazie and Claire, and I didn't mention this
in our recent Disaster Women in Disaster Movies episode where
I did talk about Claire's character for a bit. There's
the whole heel gate where she wore heels while she
was in the jungle and running from t REX. I
feel like you all know about that, and I didn't
really need to talk about it. Plus's kind of complicated
(07:48):
because Bryce Dallis Howard said she wanted to hold onto
that piece of femininity of Claire, and who am I
to say? But there was kind of a smaller similar
issue with this with Ellie where Laura Dern said she
made the choice to not wear makeup in this movie
(08:08):
as sort of a feminist choice. I think those are
both sort of murky murky issues that we've talked about
in other episodes, But I did want to mention that. Okay,
so I want to break down some stuff with this character.
I do think the timing of this movie is interesting
(08:28):
of a lot of the movies we've been talking about
it's sort of the nineties during third wave feminism, and
she was. While there was a lot of flirting with
her with doctor Ian Malcolm, a little bit with Alan
in the first movie specifically, she's never quite the love interest.
(08:48):
She does her share of the rescuing, like she rescues Ian,
she helps rescue Alan, and she has a few pretty
choice lines like dinosaur eats man, woman inherits the Earth.
And then, as I said, we can discuss sexism in
survival situations later. As I mentioned in that disaster women
(09:11):
in Disaster Film's episode, they are scientists, not action heroes.
I remember being so impressed with her whole scene turning
on the power when she's like running from the raptor
in the jungle, she gets in and she cries, but
it doesn't feel weak. It feels like which is how
it's often portrayed. I don't think crying is weak, but
(09:33):
I feel like it's often portrayed as like, all, this
woman is crying. But it felt very much more like
this release of she jumped, done this dangerous, amazing thing
and survived and then escaping the raptor. After that, and
speaking to that point, she does have moments of vulnerability
and emotion, but it's not, in my opinion, portrayed this week,
(09:55):
and in fact, it's kind of portrayed is powerful at
the point where she she breaks down Hammond's kind of
flimsy defense, where he's talking about why he wanted to
make this park, why he wanted it to be real,
and she's like, no, it was all an illusion. You
bought into it, so did I, and now people are
(10:16):
in danger because of it, and that ultimately is what
convinses him to change his mind. So I always liked
that about her. She doesn't lose that piece of what's
traditionally coded as feminine, but it feels powerful that she
has those moments and that they feel genuine. Another thing
(10:36):
is this whole conversation the choice of having kids, because
she does ultimately decide to be sort of a stay
at home mom, and her and Alan don't pursue a
relationship because he doesn't want kids, but neither of them
are demonized for her choices, and this was something that
they had been open with since the first film, And
I think that is key going back to how what
(10:58):
we talked about with Claire and the new Jurassic World
and how she's sort of demonized for not wanting kids.
Alan's not demonized for not wanting kids. She's not demonized
for wanting kids. We could argue, like if the physicians
had been swapped, who's to say, But it doesn't feel
like she like was lesser in any way or he
(11:21):
was lesser in any way, and they were they were
pretty equal partners in this. That being said, she does
end up with Alan later and it's sort of it
brought up a lot of conversations about the age gap
between Sam Neil Laura Dern, who is twenty years and
(11:42):
I think Laura Dern was twenty five for the first one,
so it feels not great that they're kind of ending
up together. And yeah, there's been a lot of discussion
about that and how a lot of what the new
ones have done kind of feels like it's going back
records in terms of that. But that is a conversation
(12:04):
people are having. I also wanted to do a brief
mention of lex who is the young teenage girl, the
(12:26):
vegetarian hacker in this who does save the day. Ultimately,
she uses her acting skills to get them all out
of there. She has a very brave moment where she
saves her brother in that kitchen. That's the scariest scene
to me. I would say she's kind of portrayed as
a bit of a joke, but she Between her and Tim,
(12:53):
I feel like they're evenly balanced and who gets to
do the saving, who gets to do the like thing,
And ultimately, yeah, she does save the day. So I
always liked that as a kid, going back to the
all the dinosaurs are women thing, so they can't breed
in the wild. I did find a whole article about
(13:17):
the clever Girl trope of when Muldoon is tracking these
raptors and he's like this seasoned hunter and they trick
him and get him and kill him. That's also a
disturbing scene, and he says the last thing he says,
it's clever girl. But they were talking about the power
of women coming together, working together and getting stuff done. Also,
(13:40):
I do want to say, you know, I don't know
how realistic A lot it's not really very realistic, but
it was an example of women in stem with Lex
and Ellie, and a pretty powerful one, a pretty solid one.
I feel like, going back to what I said about
Ellie when she digs into that mountain of it's just
(14:01):
she just does it. She just does it because it's
part of her job and no one questions it. And
I'd never really noticed this before, but I do love
that someone was like Ian is the damsel in distress
in this one in his famous pose where he's like
kind of sexually laid out with his shirt open. She's
the one that saved him. While at the same time, Alan,
(14:22):
who's the other main male character in this equation, is
the one who's protecting the kids. So I thought that
was interesting. But all of that being said, that brings
us to the teaser. I promised about the cards. So
I collected these cards when I was a kid, and
on the front I did a very artistic glow in
(14:44):
the dark crown illustration about how much I loved dressing park.
This is all true, but I found it and then
I didn't really look into it. But my friend when
she visited, was like, let's read the back of these cards,
and boy, am I glad she recommended that, So we're
going to read it now. So here is the back
(15:06):
of Ellie's card. Doctor Ellie's Satler is a paleobotanist late
twenties athletic, looking, ambitious and impatient. Doctor Satler also has
her domestic side. Obviously in love with Grant, she wants
to marry him and I'm sorry, oh my gosh, oh okay, Well,
(15:32):
let us compare that with what it says in the
back of Malcolm's card. Doctor I. M. Malcolm is a mathematician, chaotician,
and hipster dresser all black clothes, sunglasses, snakeskin boots. Malcolm
believes that the interaction of systems on Jurassic Park and
the unknowns of bioengineering are too complex and therefore bound
(15:55):
to fail. So much less settled. And then here is
Alan Grant, palaeontologists thirty ish, intensely focused on his work,
less so on his appearance. This is doctor Alan Grant.
He's ragged looking and used to roughing it after long
(16:17):
stretches in the desert digging up dinosaur bones. Grant doesn't
like kids, which is a problem for his girlfriend slash partner,
doctor Ellie's Satler. I could go on and on. There
are some real gems in here, but I did think
that was sort of It didn't surprise me, but it
was sort of annoying because here I am singing the
(16:39):
praises of this character, and in the merchandise, she's still
reduced too. She wants to have kids and get married
with this guy, and he is described as someone who's
really into his work and it doesn't matter how he looks.
I don't know about that. I don't know about that,
but yes, but is what I have to say about
(17:01):
this for now. I'm sure I will come back and
read some more of these cards, because they really there's
some good ones in here. But all right, in the meantime,
please let us know if you have any suggestions. Like
I said, I know that you all have sent some in.
There is a list. I'm just because I'm by myself.
I'm doing some of the ones that will be more
(17:22):
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Hey, this is Annie, and welcome to stuff one never
told you protection of iHeartRadio. And yes, unfortunately I am
still by myself. But I think that's okay. I mean,
I'm sad I miss Samantha, but I think it's okay
for this one because we have talked about Jurassic Park
(00:27):
before on here, She's talked about it on the dailies
like guyst So I think she'll be fine with not
being present for this one. As much as we'll miss her.
She will be back. Do not worry. I yeah, it's
just a scheduling thing and an illness thing, but she
will be back. So today, yes we are talking about
(00:50):
jesssic Park. We are talking about doctor Ellie Sadler, who
I wasn't going to necessarily do, but it just felt
so fitting because it is the thirtieth anniversary of Jurassic
Park and we have been talking a lot about disaster
movies lately. I think some of that is coming out
after this, some of that before, but like a lot
(01:12):
of content around it, and I was like, you know what,
just want to mark it off my list. Also, I
have a really fun update about my cards that I mentioned.
My Jurassic Park collectible cards that I had as a kid. Well,
what's fun? You want to stick around for the update? Okay,
so I would say, see our recent women in Creature
(01:33):
features deserves to die. That whole idea women in Archaeology
and paleontology. I feel like there's something I'm forgetting. I
talk about her a lot. She was an impactful character.
I told the story in our Archaeology Paleontology episode. I
(01:53):
watched this movie when I was not supposed to as
a kid. I loved her. I just as her at
Dragon Con the first time I went, she was one
of my costumes, and a lot of people were addressing
her this year because it is the thirtieth anniversary, and
(02:14):
she came up. We had a pretty rousing me and
my friend's conversation about Jurassic Park and the newer Jurassic
Parks and Michael Crichton and I learned a lot. I
learned a lot. But all right, that being said, let's
get into it, doctor Ellie Sadler, based on Michael Crichton's books.
The character in the books who I learned in this
(02:35):
conversation is pretty problematic. It was first introduced to a
lot of us in the nineteen ninety three blockbolster hit
Jurassic Park. She's played by Laura Dern. She has a
paleobotanist invited to Jurassic Park along with her coworker, Alan
Grant by John Hammond, who is looking to get some
experts to sign off on the safety of having basically
(02:56):
a theme park which neetically engineered dinosaurs. This is one
of those things where I'm not sure how which I
need to explain, but basically, this rich guy, doctor Jonahmmon,
has made this theme park with genetically engineered dinosaurs and
he wants experts in the field to sign off on
it so he can get the lawyers to back off. Okay, So,
at first Ellie is in awe of the extinct plants
(03:19):
she's seeing of the dinosaurs, but it quickly turns to concern,
and she voices her opinion that she believes that the
whole thing is dangerous and that when it comes to
the plants in particular, which is her area of expertise,
they were chosen because they looked good even though they
were deadly. When they go on their tour of the park,
(03:41):
she tries to get Alan to ride with kids Tim
and Lex who are him AND's grandkids. I had such
a crush on Tim when I was a kid. But
Alan is able to escape them. And if you haven't
seen the movie or you don't remember, Ellie and Allen
get into a disagreement when the movie starts about kids,
because she really wants them, he doesn't. It's never outright
(04:03):
clear that they're in a relationship, even though Alan at
one part says, ee it they are, but it could
be he's just trying to scare off doctor Ian Malcolm
played by Jeff Goldbloom, who was flirting with her. Uh
for sure. So as this tour goes on, they simple
upon us sick Tricera toops and Ellie cries happy tears
(04:25):
and becomes determined to figure out why it's sick, going
arm deep into a huge pile of dinos to analyze
it without qualms. Tenacious Ian says, and a lot of
people point to the scene is like, oh, she's that,
because it wasn't. It wasn't played as like, oh, this
woman is doing this, how silly or how gross or
(04:48):
how improper. It was more like she was just doing
her job, and no one really thought that much of
it other than tenacious, very willing to get her hands dirty,
might say. She elects to stay with the triceratops, meaning
she is not attacked by the t rex. The people
who continue on the tour are. When she learns the
(05:12):
others maybe in danger. After the dinosaurs escape, she volunteers
to go with hunter Robert Muldoon to retrieve them, which
ultimately results in them rescuing Ian and escaping at rampaging
t Rex. Once they escape, Ellie helps heal Ian and
tries to convince Hammond that what matters is saving the
ones they love, not the park. She once again volunteers
(05:34):
to tread dangerous territory with Muldoon to turn the power on,
arguing with Hammond about sexism and survival situations when he
says he's really the one that should be going. With
the help of Muldoon and later Ian, she is able
to sprint through a jungle while being hunted by raptors,
turn on the power, and then escape said raptors when
it turns out they are in the power station. One
(05:57):
in particular, a lot of you make mention of the
fact she loses her pink over shirt during the scene.
I never really thought anything of that, but huh. Interesting
she reunites with Alan, and together they are all able
to escape the park. In the first movie, I'm going
to briefly go over her appearances and the other ones.
I'm not nearly as familiar with that, but I have
(06:19):
seen all of them. Ellie briefly reappears in Jurassic Park three,
when it's revealed she married a man from the State
Department and they have two kids together. A part of
the reason she and Alan didn't work out is implied
to be their disagreement about having kids and that he
loves dinosaurs. First, she had become a children's writer. I
(06:40):
really don't remember that, but that's what I read. She
and Alan were still friends, however, and he's stopped by
Ellie's house regularly and knew her husband and kids. They
knew him. She helped save Alan during the events of
Jurassic Park three, basically calls her and is like send everyone.
She next appeared cinematically, at least in Jurassic World Dominion,
(07:05):
where we see her doing research on swarms of giant
genetically engineered locust eating crops. She discovers the Big bad
Evil Company is responsible and sets out to prove what
they're doing, joining up with Alan and Ian and later
all the new crew. They're able to escape and they
go to DC to testify about what they've learned. Ellie
(07:26):
befriends both Mazie and Claire, and I didn't mention this
in our recent Disaster Women in Disaster Movies episode where
I did talk about Claire's character for a bit. There's
the whole heel gate where she wore heels while she
was in the jungle and running from t REX. I
feel like you all know about that, and I didn't
really need to talk about it. Plus's kind of complicated
(07:48):
because Bryce Dallis Howard said she wanted to hold onto
that piece of femininity of Claire, and who am I
to say? But there was kind of a smaller similar
issue with this with Ellie where Laura Dern said she
made the choice to not wear makeup in this movie
(08:08):
as sort of a feminist choice. I think those are
both sort of murky murky issues that we've talked about
in other episodes, But I did want to mention that. Okay,
so I want to break down some stuff with this character.
I do think the timing of this movie is interesting
(08:28):
of a lot of the movies we've been talking about
it's sort of the nineties during third wave feminism, and
she was. While there was a lot of flirting with
her with doctor Ian Malcolm, a little bit with Alan
in the first movie specifically, she's never quite the love interest.
(08:48):
She does her share of the rescuing, like she rescues Ian,
she helps rescue Alan, and she has a few pretty
choice lines like dinosaur eats man, woman inherits the Earth.
And then, as I said, we can discuss sexism in
survival situations later. As I mentioned in that disaster women
(09:11):
in Disaster Film's episode, they are scientists, not action heroes.
I remember being so impressed with her whole scene turning
on the power when she's like running from the raptor
in the jungle, she gets in and she cries, but
it doesn't feel weak. It feels like which is how
it's often portrayed. I don't think crying is weak, but
(09:33):
I feel like it's often portrayed as like, all, this
woman is crying. But it felt very much more like
this release of she jumped, done this dangerous, amazing thing
and survived and then escaping the raptor. After that, and
speaking to that point, she does have moments of vulnerability
and emotion, but it's not, in my opinion, portrayed this week,
(09:55):
and in fact, it's kind of portrayed is powerful at
the point where she she breaks down Hammond's kind of
flimsy defense, where he's talking about why he wanted to
make this park, why he wanted it to be real,
and she's like, no, it was all an illusion. You
bought into it, so did I, and now people are
(10:16):
in danger because of it, and that ultimately is what
convinses him to change his mind. So I always liked
that about her. She doesn't lose that piece of what's
traditionally coded as feminine, but it feels powerful that she
has those moments and that they feel genuine. Another thing
(10:36):
is this whole conversation the choice of having kids, because
she does ultimately decide to be sort of a stay
at home mom, and her and Alan don't pursue a
relationship because he doesn't want kids, but neither of them
are demonized for her choices, and this was something that
they had been open with since the first film, And
I think that is key going back to how what
(10:58):
we talked about with Claire and the new Jurassic World
and how she's sort of demonized for not wanting kids.
Alan's not demonized for not wanting kids. She's not demonized
for wanting kids. We could argue, like if the physicians
had been swapped, who's to say, But it doesn't feel
like she like was lesser in any way or he
(11:21):
was lesser in any way, and they were they were
pretty equal partners in this. That being said, she does
end up with Alan later and it's sort of it
brought up a lot of conversations about the age gap
between Sam Neil Laura Dern, who is twenty years and
(11:42):
I think Laura Dern was twenty five for the first one,
so it feels not great that they're kind of ending
up together. And yeah, there's been a lot of discussion
about that and how a lot of what the new
ones have done kind of feels like it's going back
records in terms of that. But that is a conversation
(12:04):
people are having. I also wanted to do a brief
mention of lex who is the young teenage girl, the
(12:26):
vegetarian hacker in this who does save the day. Ultimately,
she uses her acting skills to get them all out
of there. She has a very brave moment where she
saves her brother in that kitchen. That's the scariest scene
to me. I would say she's kind of portrayed as
a bit of a joke, but she Between her and Tim,
(12:53):
I feel like they're evenly balanced and who gets to
do the saving, who gets to do the like thing,
And ultimately, yeah, she does save the day. So I
always liked that as a kid, going back to the
all the dinosaurs are women thing, so they can't breed
in the wild. I did find a whole article about
(13:17):
the clever Girl trope of when Muldoon is tracking these
raptors and he's like this seasoned hunter and they trick
him and get him and kill him. That's also a
disturbing scene, and he says the last thing he says,
it's clever girl. But they were talking about the power
of women coming together, working together and getting stuff done. Also,
(13:40):
I do want to say, you know, I don't know
how realistic A lot it's not really very realistic, but
it was an example of women in stem with Lex
and Ellie, and a pretty powerful one, a pretty solid one.
I feel like, going back to what I said about
Ellie when she digs into that mountain of it's just
(14:01):
she just does it. She just does it because it's
part of her job and no one questions it. And
I'd never really noticed this before, but I do love
that someone was like Ian is the damsel in distress
in this one in his famous pose where he's like
kind of sexually laid out with his shirt open. She's
the one that saved him. While at the same time, Alan,
(14:22):
who's the other main male character in this equation, is
the one who's protecting the kids. So I thought that
was interesting. But all of that being said, that brings
us to the teaser. I promised about the cards. So
I collected these cards when I was a kid, and
on the front I did a very artistic glow in
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the dark crown illustration about how much I loved dressing park.
This is all true, but I found it and then
I didn't really look into it. But my friend when
she visited, was like, let's read the back of these cards,
and boy, am I glad she recommended that, So we're
going to read it now. So here is the back
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of Ellie's card. Doctor Ellie's Satler is a paleobotanist late
twenties athletic, looking, ambitious and impatient. Doctor Satler also has
her domestic side. Obviously in love with Grant, she wants
to marry him and I'm sorry, oh my gosh, oh okay, Well,
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let us compare that with what it says in the
back of Malcolm's card. Doctor I. M. Malcolm is a mathematician, chaotician,
and hipster dresser all black clothes, sunglasses, snakeskin boots. Malcolm
believes that the interaction of systems on Jurassic Park and
the unknowns of bioengineering are too complex and therefore bound
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to fail. So much less settled. And then here is
Alan Grant, palaeontologists thirty ish, intensely focused on his work,
less so on his appearance. This is doctor Alan Grant.
He's ragged looking and used to roughing it after long
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stretches in the desert digging up dinosaur bones. Grant doesn't
like kids, which is a problem for his girlfriend slash partner,
doctor Ellie's Satler. I could go on and on. There
are some real gems in here, but I did think
that was sort of It didn't surprise me, but it
was sort of annoying because here I am singing the
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praises of this character, and in the merchandise, she's still
reduced too. She wants to have kids and get married
with this guy, and he is described as someone who's
really into his work and it doesn't matter how he looks.
I don't know about that. I don't know about that,
but yes, but is what I have to say about
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this for now. I'm sure I will come back and
read some more of these cards, because they really there's
some good ones in here. But all right, in the meantime,
please let us know if you have any suggestions. Like
I said, I know that you all have sent some in.
There is a list. I'm just because I'm by myself.
I'm doing some of the ones that will be more
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contained and that I know a lot about. But there.
I love these suggestions, so please keep those coming. You
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