May 15, 2025 • 18 mins
A recent study shed (a little) light on the science behind lucid dreaming and dream logic. Anney and Samantha trade experiences.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. Welcome to Stuff I
Never told you, production by Her Radio, and welcome to
another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if you are
choosing to drink or whatever you're choosing to do, please
do so responsibly. Samantha, are you drinking anything, I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Drinking some caffeine. Your favorite die Doctor Pepper, zero cherry,
oh no, and the cherry. I like the cherry. My
favorite has been the cream soda not a sponsor, not
a sponsor. But also they've been kind of the safe
line because I feel like both the other two major
(00:52):
soda brands are so gross, and die Doctor Pepper actually
has is not affiliated by either, like they don't are
not owned by either of them, so I feel like
a safe choice.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well it's my enemy and listens and I don't know.
I despise Dr Pepper. It's like my number one most
hated flavor. It's quite funny. But one time, behind the scenes,
they approached the other show I'm on Saveror to be
(01:26):
a sponsor, and I was like, are you okay with
me being like outright, I don't like this, but if
you like it, go get it. And we never heard that.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Because because Lauren, You're co host.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
She likes it, right, she likes it, and she was like,
I think it could be funny. It could be a
funny one dynamic, and.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It was like, I'm not a huge Dr Pepper fan.
I'm not. The cream soda with Doctor Pepper actually was
like my turning point because I love cream soda. I
love it. I don't drink it often, but I actually
that's one of my favorite like excited, like childhood gettiness,
like oh queen soda. So when they did that with
a Dr Pepper, it made sense to me and I
(02:09):
was like, yeah, I need to try this, and so
if I have a flavored one, I'm good. Regular Doctor
Pepper is not my thing and I don't. And that's
the other part is that usually people have really strong
feelings like you do, like either they love it or
they hate it, and I'm just like I'm in between.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You're You're anomaly I am.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Because I'm like, I like it this way, but it's
not like, yeah, I'm gonna probably I used to try,
you know, go for the diet coke. I was a DieHarder,
like we're in Atalanta, you're in Georgia coke only, but
they are not the great company in the world. So
there's that.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
As always there's that. Well, uh, today we have an
interesting case of synchronicity because Wave links. Yes, Samantha had
planned this Monday Mini that if you're listening to this
Happy Hour as it comes out, will be the next
Monday Mini about sleep. And I had actually planned this
(03:05):
Happy Hour before I knew that about dreams.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So technically because we recorded mine first, she copied me, No,
I need that to be noted.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
False.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And it's interesting too because in that Monday Mini, you
were talking about a new study about women and sleep
and disrupted sleep. And I have mentioned on here before.
I feel I just like you. I'm very light sleeper.
I'm not sure I'm getting good sleep, but I dream
(03:39):
almost every night. Do you dream a lot sleeping?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I have been dreaming a lot more but my dreams
and I think you and I had the SERI I
have a theory about your dreaming as well. Is because
you're such a light sleeper. It's usually typically when I'm
about to wake up and I remember those dreams like
I don't remember like previous dreams, but the like I know,
like as I'm starting to slowly wake up is when
(04:04):
I remember my dreams at those points, and because I've
had more and more moments of like I need to
wake up now, my body's telling me to wake up
because now I'm used to waking up around a certain
time that I remember the dreams and they've all been weird.
One of them was with you. Actually recently we went
to Disney World, but we were in a now like
(04:25):
despised franchise themed limo with my dog okay, and they
the dude was like, I've never had anyone red this
limo out for this long of a time. Congratulations. And
then we went and I needed This is also one
of those dreams where like I have to pee, so
I dreamt that I was trying to find a bathroom
(04:46):
the entire time.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, it was one of those incorporated dreams, but it
was all of us. Yeah, weird.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm gonna have to unfact that later to see what
maybe it was going on in your mind.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Any of those movies in a long time, because I've
we've all been so disheartened. Yeah, but she who shall
not be named.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, that's interesting though, okay, okay, well, oh yeah, I
dream pretty much every night, and I haven't talked about
it on here before. I know it's kind of a
faux pod to talk about your dreams, but I am
going to talk about some tonight because yes, tonight today,
Because well, basically, it's like I think they're interesting. Yeah,
(05:32):
but the general idea is people can't connect with your
and then I met this celebrity but it was a dream.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So I find people's dreams fascinating.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I do too, I do too, but I do know
that that is a conversation. So if you're already rolling
your eyes, I'm sorry, but we're going to do it,
and I think it's going to be interesting, okay, Because
so the study, the new study that came out was
about the science spot behind lucid dreaming, and it was
(06:04):
talking about how it kind of appears in the brain
like LSD or something like drugs, and so they think
that it's a kind of undiscovered pathway of how the
brain works, and the science behind dreams. We're still not
entirely sure what is going on there. The most prevalent
(06:27):
theory is it's just your brain kind of cycling through
any issues you might have or like yeah, memories, But
we don't know so this was kind of a new
study and I thought it was really interesting because I
recently have become excellent at lucid dreaming, and not only that,
(06:49):
I've gotten really good at dream logic, which is basically
when you're in a dream and you're like, this doesn't
make sense, Let's just skip this if you want. Sometimes
I like it and I don't skip it, but I
have I can.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yes, not always, but a lot, a lot more than
I used to be able to. And so one of
the this is the dream story you will get one
of my recent dreams, my brain, I think it was
my brain was trying to teach me a lesson, and
it essentially like I had this dream where I would
(07:31):
go through different scenarios and I would get to the
end and it would stop, and my brain will say
it was like, where did you go wrong? Let's let's
revisit this, and I would do it again, and I
would try to take in the lessons that I have learned.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
You containing yourself in your own dream.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So many things, So like the big one that I thought,
I actually woke up and I was like, you right,
I get it, Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Brain, you're correct. Thank you for teaching me this lesson.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
All right, all right, I know, but okay, wow? Was
essentially it boiled down to I kept trying to not
ask for help, and so I made things like way worse,
Like if I just said, hey, I can't do this,
it's gonna put me out of my way. I actually
don't have a car. I don't drive, so I'm gonna
have to walk there like. It was a bunch of
(08:28):
stuff like that, and then the brain it was stop
and be like, all right, let's try it again. Then
I got annoyed though, and so I started fast forwarding
through the plate.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So when you are fast forwarding, is it like when
you see like the old school press it with the
little blurry lines, keep talking talking Wow. I was like,
I don't want to do this again, and I got
moving on, moving on, get to the good part.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
My lesson usband learned. Thanks. But it's really interesting because
I can now I can just recognize that it's a
dream and I can do whatever I want to an extent.
And I was intrigued by this whole premise. I was like, okay,
tell me what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
What did I do wrong here?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Don't make me go through it again. I learned my lesson. Wow,
well that's the thing is actually one of the lessons
was you already know this and you keep making these
mistakes anyway, So got my number.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Got my number because I'm like, are you going to
have you ever had an experience like the it's a
wonderful life type of scenario? Have you lived that out
like a different life and than like what would have
happened if and then like you see it as the spectator,
but it's actually a dream and then you can come
back and to make the choices and.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Uh and not like that, but yes I can. Yeah.
So sometimes I'll be in a dream and I don't
like what happened in it, so I'll go I'll go
back and I'll be like, we're not gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, that's a book plot that isn't intriguing.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's really interesting because it's I don't as far as
I know, I don't wake up. It's just like a
part of my mind is aware, and I'll decide, I'm like,
I don't like where this is going. We're gonna go
back this way sometimes back it up. Sometimes it's terrible,
but I like it because I like, like the last
(10:42):
of us so.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You and you have a dream like I have a
lot of dream of like people trying to find me,
trying to get me, and I see them from afar,
and I'm having this plan of like hungering down and
running away and then I can't run you like those scenarios,
That's what I would panic sometimes.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But I we've also discussed this. I'm actually frequently not
in my dreams. So sometimes it's like a movie where
I'm just like, oh, I'm watching a horror movie right now,
I'm not in it, so I don't have to feel.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Plot because you've never seen this.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yes, and that is another thing that I have that
I don't think too many people have. But I have
a continuing Yeah, I have continuing dreams. So they're like seasonal.
So like you know a TV show goes off season, like.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You named it seasonal, Well, that's what it feels like.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It feels like next time on Annie's dream.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
What do you know when the finales are you can
get a you can't get a sense, you can get
a sense. See, I have repeeda dreams where like the
same scenarios happen with different circumstances but with the same people,
or like it's like I think about the family that
I nay need for, Like I constantly dream of that
(11:55):
more than any other work, which is weird to me.
I constantly dream that I'm back being a nanny. I
can't slowly the dream, but at least like that happens.
But it's always different in scenario.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, I do have I used to have recurring dreams
a lot. I don't have those much anymore, but when
I was really young in stress, I had them a lot. Yeah,
and that's kind of interesting because that feels like your
brain being really stuck on.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I mean, like I am for some reason really traumatized
by that. And it wasn't the worst experience, Like my
worst experience has happened with like defacts so or apartment
chldren and family services. So those should be the nightmares,
I would think, but they're not. I hate we're having
work dreams. Anything is really related to like work stuff
really bother me, even if it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I don't like it either. I really like dreams and
I like dreaming, and so if I have a work dream,
I'm just annoyed because I'm like I could be having
a Star Wars dream, right, now and we're doing this.
It's just bulld.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I need to ask someone if anybody's listening that can
interpret dreams. I constantly have dreams about my contact ones
coming out, and when I try to put it back in,
they're so giant, like the size of my head. But
I'm I'm like, no, no, once I put it in
my eyes is gonna it's gonna be fine. It's gonna
be perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That's my like, not my teeth falling out, not that
that's the dream that I have the most of it
outside of like I can't fly or I can't run.
Mm hmmm, huh, giant contacts trying to put those in
my eyes.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'm gonna think about this.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I need I need someone to tell me.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I'm gonna think about this.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So in the study, what what does it mean when
you have these lucid dreams?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well, honestly, the study was mostly like, look at what
the brain is doing. This is new. This is very
different than anything we've ever seen, and it's very new.
So I don't think they had anything other than we
need to do more research because clearly this is different
than what we thought it was. But I I was
(14:14):
interested in the timing of it, because this is a new,
newish thing for me. I used to be able to
lucid dream but it was very rare, and now I
can do it pretty often. And I have a friend
who just started I want to say lucid dreaming, but
she recognizes dream logic so she can be like, you
(14:35):
know what, I don't like this item. Let's change it
to this item and it will change. And so I'm
wondering about the timing of is it that we're talking
about it more, thinking about it more, or is it
something else because when the pandemic first started, we had
a different conversation about because I was having really intense
dreams then, and there were some studies that were coming
(14:57):
out about like the anxiety and stress and all of that.
The pandemic was causing people's dreams to change. And so
I'm curious if there's any relationship between those things, because
this is definitely a new this is a new thing
(15:18):
for me. But yeah, the study was mostly like, this
is weird, we should look into it more. But it's
a brain It's like something in the brain lights up
that they weren't expecting.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Fascinating.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I know, I'm very interested in it. I'm also curious
because we've talked about this briefly before, but I and
I believe you have experienced sleep paralysis. Oh yeah, it's awful.
It's the worst at certain points in our life. And
(15:51):
I wonder if there's a because sleep paralysis usually happens
when you wake up and you're not Your body doesn't
think you're supposed to be awake, like it still thinks
it's asleep, And it's horrible if you've never experienced it.
But I wonder if it's almost related to that phenomenon
of maybe I'm more awake than I think I am,
(16:13):
and I'm doing these making these decisions or lucid dreaming
or whatever. I don't know, I would be very curious.
I have started a dream journal. I mentioned it forever ago,
but I've kept it up and it's I really like it.
And you do remember your dreams better if you keep
(16:34):
a dream journal like this a brain less than one
was months ago, but I remember. Yeah, but it's cool.
I mean, who knows, who knows what I'll dream tonight?
I wish I could, like.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
If this is such yourself up until, like this is
a dream tonight.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yes, I can uh it doesn't always work, but I
can do that, and especially if I like wake up
in the middle of the night and I was having
a dream that was like, so, so I can be
you know what I want to do. I want to
go back in, but I want it to do this.
It'll generally it will do what I was thinking. M h. Yeah,
(17:22):
if it wasn't such a black mirror sounding idea. I
wish I could record my dreams and like look back
at them later.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's probably a good thing, you can't. I feel like
there could be a level disappointment when you realize.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yes, that wasn't as cool as I thought it was. Yeah,
for sure, for sure, but still I would be interesting.
Interesting it is, but I do love it and I
look forward to it and sometimes I get excited and then.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I can't slill keep that sounds about right, Yeah, that's
all about it, right, I have nothing bad of that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I'm like, please go to sleep. Yeah, anyway, I would
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Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. Welcome to Stuff I
Never told you, production by Her Radio, and welcome to
another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if you are
choosing to drink or whatever you're choosing to do, please
do so responsibly. Samantha, are you drinking anything, I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Drinking some caffeine. Your favorite die Doctor Pepper, zero cherry,
oh no, and the cherry. I like the cherry. My
favorite has been the cream soda not a sponsor, not
a sponsor. But also they've been kind of the safe
line because I feel like both the other two major
(00:52):
soda brands are so gross, and die Doctor Pepper actually
has is not affiliated by either, like they don't are
not owned by either of them, so I feel like
a safe choice.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well it's my enemy and listens and I don't know.
I despise Dr Pepper. It's like my number one most
hated flavor. It's quite funny. But one time, behind the scenes,
they approached the other show I'm on Saveror to be
(01:26):
a sponsor, and I was like, are you okay with
me being like outright, I don't like this, but if
you like it, go get it. And we never heard that.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Because because Lauren, You're co host.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
She likes it, right, she likes it, and she was like,
I think it could be funny. It could be a
funny one dynamic, and.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It was like, I'm not a huge Dr Pepper fan.
I'm not. The cream soda with Doctor Pepper actually was
like my turning point because I love cream soda. I
love it. I don't drink it often, but I actually
that's one of my favorite like excited, like childhood gettiness,
like oh queen soda. So when they did that with
a Dr Pepper, it made sense to me and I
(02:09):
was like, yeah, I need to try this, and so
if I have a flavored one, I'm good. Regular Doctor
Pepper is not my thing and I don't. And that's
the other part is that usually people have really strong
feelings like you do, like either they love it or
they hate it, and I'm just like I'm in between.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You're You're anomaly I am.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Because I'm like, I like it this way, but it's
not like, yeah, I'm gonna probably I used to try,
you know, go for the diet coke. I was a DieHarder,
like we're in Atalanta, you're in Georgia coke only, but
they are not the great company in the world. So
there's that.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
As always there's that. Well, uh, today we have an
interesting case of synchronicity because Wave links. Yes, Samantha had
planned this Monday Mini that if you're listening to this
Happy Hour as it comes out, will be the next
Monday Mini about sleep. And I had actually planned this
(03:05):
Happy Hour before I knew that about dreams.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
So technically because we recorded mine first, she copied me, No,
I need that to be noted.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
False.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And it's interesting too because in that Monday Mini, you
were talking about a new study about women and sleep
and disrupted sleep. And I have mentioned on here before.
I feel I just like you. I'm very light sleeper.
I'm not sure I'm getting good sleep, but I dream
(03:39):
almost every night. Do you dream a lot sleeping?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I have been dreaming a lot more but my dreams
and I think you and I had the SERI I
have a theory about your dreaming as well. Is because
you're such a light sleeper. It's usually typically when I'm
about to wake up and I remember those dreams like
I don't remember like previous dreams, but the like I know,
like as I'm starting to slowly wake up is when
(04:04):
I remember my dreams at those points, and because I've
had more and more moments of like I need to
wake up now, my body's telling me to wake up
because now I'm used to waking up around a certain
time that I remember the dreams and they've all been weird.
One of them was with you. Actually recently we went
to Disney World, but we were in a now like
(04:25):
despised franchise themed limo with my dog okay, and they
the dude was like, I've never had anyone red this
limo out for this long of a time. Congratulations. And
then we went and I needed This is also one
of those dreams where like I have to pee, so
I dreamt that I was trying to find a bathroom
(04:46):
the entire time.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, it was one of those incorporated dreams, but it
was all of us. Yeah, weird.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I'm gonna have to unfact that later to see what
maybe it was going on in your mind.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Any of those movies in a long time, because I've
we've all been so disheartened. Yeah, but she who shall
not be named.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, that's interesting though, okay, okay, well, oh yeah, I
dream pretty much every night, and I haven't talked about
it on here before. I know it's kind of a
faux pod to talk about your dreams, but I am
going to talk about some tonight because yes, tonight today,
Because well, basically, it's like I think they're interesting. Yeah,
(05:32):
but the general idea is people can't connect with your
and then I met this celebrity but it was a dream.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So I find people's dreams fascinating.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I do too, I do too, but I do know
that that is a conversation. So if you're already rolling
your eyes, I'm sorry, but we're going to do it,
and I think it's going to be interesting, okay, Because
so the study, the new study that came out was
about the science spot behind lucid dreaming, and it was
(06:04):
talking about how it kind of appears in the brain
like LSD or something like drugs, and so they think
that it's a kind of undiscovered pathway of how the
brain works, and the science behind dreams. We're still not
entirely sure what is going on there. The most prevalent
(06:27):
theory is it's just your brain kind of cycling through
any issues you might have or like yeah, memories, But
we don't know so this was kind of a new
study and I thought it was really interesting because I
recently have become excellent at lucid dreaming, and not only that,
(06:49):
I've gotten really good at dream logic, which is basically
when you're in a dream and you're like, this doesn't
make sense, Let's just skip this if you want. Sometimes
I like it and I don't skip it, but I
have I can.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yes, not always, but a lot, a lot more than
I used to be able to. And so one of
the this is the dream story you will get one
of my recent dreams, my brain, I think it was
my brain was trying to teach me a lesson, and
it essentially like I had this dream where I would
(07:31):
go through different scenarios and I would get to the
end and it would stop, and my brain will say
it was like, where did you go wrong? Let's let's
revisit this, and I would do it again, and I
would try to take in the lessons that I have learned.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
You containing yourself in your own dream.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So many things, So like the big one that I thought,
I actually woke up and I was like, you right,
I get it, Uh.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Brain, you're correct. Thank you for teaching me this lesson.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
All right, all right, I know, but okay, wow? Was
essentially it boiled down to I kept trying to not
ask for help, and so I made things like way worse,
Like if I just said, hey, I can't do this,
it's gonna put me out of my way. I actually
don't have a car. I don't drive, so I'm gonna
have to walk there like. It was a bunch of
(08:28):
stuff like that, and then the brain it was stop
and be like, all right, let's try it again. Then
I got annoyed though, and so I started fast forwarding
through the plate.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So when you are fast forwarding, is it like when
you see like the old school press it with the
little blurry lines, keep talking talking Wow. I was like,
I don't want to do this again, and I got
moving on, moving on, get to the good part.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
My lesson usband learned. Thanks. But it's really interesting because
I can now I can just recognize that it's a
dream and I can do whatever I want to an extent.
And I was intrigued by this whole premise. I was like, okay,
tell me what it is.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
What did I do wrong here?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Don't make me go through it again. I learned my lesson. Wow,
well that's the thing is actually one of the lessons
was you already know this and you keep making these
mistakes anyway, So got my number.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Got my number because I'm like, are you going to
have you ever had an experience like the it's a
wonderful life type of scenario? Have you lived that out
like a different life and than like what would have
happened if and then like you see it as the spectator,
but it's actually a dream and then you can come
back and to make the choices and.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Uh and not like that, but yes I can. Yeah.
So sometimes I'll be in a dream and I don't
like what happened in it, so I'll go I'll go
back and I'll be like, we're not gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, that's a book plot that isn't intriguing.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's really interesting because it's I don't as far as
I know, I don't wake up. It's just like a
part of my mind is aware, and I'll decide, I'm like,
I don't like where this is going. We're gonna go
back this way sometimes back it up. Sometimes it's terrible,
but I like it because I like, like the last
(10:42):
of us so.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
You and you have a dream like I have a
lot of dream of like people trying to find me,
trying to get me, and I see them from afar,
and I'm having this plan of like hungering down and
running away and then I can't run you like those scenarios,
That's what I would panic sometimes.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
But I we've also discussed this. I'm actually frequently not
in my dreams. So sometimes it's like a movie where
I'm just like, oh, I'm watching a horror movie right now,
I'm not in it, so I don't have to feel.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Plot because you've never seen this.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yes, and that is another thing that I have that
I don't think too many people have. But I have
a continuing Yeah, I have continuing dreams. So they're like seasonal.
So like you know a TV show goes off season, like.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
You named it seasonal, Well, that's what it feels like.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It feels like next time on Annie's dream.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
What do you know when the finales are you can
get a you can't get a sense, you can get
a sense. See, I have repeeda dreams where like the
same scenarios happen with different circumstances but with the same people,
or like it's like I think about the family that
I nay need for, Like I constantly dream of that
(11:55):
more than any other work, which is weird to me.
I constantly dream that I'm back being a nanny. I
can't slowly the dream, but at least like that happens.
But it's always different in scenario.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, I do have I used to have recurring dreams
a lot. I don't have those much anymore, but when
I was really young in stress, I had them a lot. Yeah,
and that's kind of interesting because that feels like your
brain being really stuck on.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I mean, like I am for some reason really traumatized
by that. And it wasn't the worst experience, Like my
worst experience has happened with like defacts so or apartment
chldren and family services. So those should be the nightmares,
I would think, but they're not. I hate we're having
work dreams. Anything is really related to like work stuff
really bother me, even if it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I don't like it either. I really like dreams and
I like dreaming, and so if I have a work dream,
I'm just annoyed because I'm like I could be having
a Star Wars dream, right, now and we're doing this.
It's just bulld.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I need to ask someone if anybody's listening that can
interpret dreams. I constantly have dreams about my contact ones
coming out, and when I try to put it back in,
they're so giant, like the size of my head. But
I'm I'm like, no, no, once I put it in
my eyes is gonna it's gonna be fine. It's gonna
be perfect.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
That's my like, not my teeth falling out, not that
that's the dream that I have the most of it
outside of like I can't fly or I can't run.
Mm hmmm, huh, giant contacts trying to put those in
my eyes.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'm gonna think about this.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I need I need someone to tell me.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I'm gonna think about this.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
So in the study, what what does it mean when
you have these lucid dreams?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Well, honestly, the study was mostly like, look at what
the brain is doing. This is new. This is very
different than anything we've ever seen, and it's very new.
So I don't think they had anything other than we
need to do more research because clearly this is different
than what we thought it was. But I I was
(14:14):
interested in the timing of it, because this is a new,
newish thing for me. I used to be able to
lucid dream but it was very rare, and now I
can do it pretty often. And I have a friend
who just started I want to say lucid dreaming, but
she recognizes dream logic so she can be like, you
(14:35):
know what, I don't like this item. Let's change it
to this item and it will change. And so I'm
wondering about the timing of is it that we're talking
about it more, thinking about it more, or is it
something else because when the pandemic first started, we had
a different conversation about because I was having really intense
dreams then, and there were some studies that were coming
(14:57):
out about like the anxiety and stress and all of that.
The pandemic was causing people's dreams to change. And so
I'm curious if there's any relationship between those things, because
this is definitely a new this is a new thing
(15:18):
for me. But yeah, the study was mostly like, this
is weird, we should look into it more. But it's
a brain It's like something in the brain lights up
that they weren't expecting.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Fascinating.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I know, I'm very interested in it. I'm also curious
because we've talked about this briefly before, but I and
I believe you have experienced sleep paralysis. Oh yeah, it's awful.
It's the worst at certain points in our life. And
(15:51):
I wonder if there's a because sleep paralysis usually happens
when you wake up and you're not Your body doesn't
think you're supposed to be awake, like it still thinks
it's asleep, And it's horrible if you've never experienced it.
But I wonder if it's almost related to that phenomenon
of maybe I'm more awake than I think I am,
(16:13):
and I'm doing these making these decisions or lucid dreaming
or whatever. I don't know, I would be very curious.
I have started a dream journal. I mentioned it forever ago,
but I've kept it up and it's I really like it.
And you do remember your dreams better if you keep
(16:34):
a dream journal like this a brain less than one
was months ago, but I remember. Yeah, but it's cool.
I mean, who knows, who knows what I'll dream tonight?
I wish I could, like.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
If this is such yourself up until, like this is
a dream tonight.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yes, I can uh it doesn't always work, but I
can do that, and especially if I like wake up
in the middle of the night and I was having
a dream that was like, so, so I can be
you know what I want to do. I want to
go back in, but I want it to do this.
It'll generally it will do what I was thinking. M h. Yeah,
(17:22):
if it wasn't such a black mirror sounding idea. I
wish I could record my dreams and like look back
at them later.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
It's probably a good thing, you can't. I feel like
there could be a level disappointment when you realize.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yes, that wasn't as cool as I thought it was. Yeah,
for sure, for sure, but still I would be interesting.
Interesting it is, but I do love it and I
look forward to it and sometimes I get excited and then.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I can't slill keep that sounds about right, Yeah, that's
all about it, right, I have nothing bad of that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I'm like, please go to sleep. Yeah, anyway, I would
love to hear from listeners. I am intrigued in learning
more about dreams. So if you would like to contact us,
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