August 7, 2025 • 18 mins
As federal funding for public media is stripped away, Anney and Samantha share fond memories of watching and listening to public stations.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome stuff I'll
never told you a prediction of by Heart Radio, and
welcome to another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if
you choose to drink or whatever you choose to do,
please do so responsibly.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Samantha, are you sipping on anything?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I got my bubbly water ready to go. All right,
what about you?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I got my red one ready to go.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yes, So, if you've been listening, I guess it's kind
of early in the month, so some of this hasn't
come out, but we're doing a lot of kind of
nostalgic episodes or look backs on things that we enjoyed
during childhood. And we recently were trying to pick the
(00:56):
movie we're going to do for the month, and in
there mentioned or we could just talk about PBS. So
I this is like a it's sad in the sense
that our national our publicly funded media in the United
States has lost one point one billion promised amount of
(01:17):
money from the federal government and so they're scrambling. But
we're not really going to dig into that sad part today.
I just wanted to talk about well I liked it
and what I liked when I was growing up. And
we have talked about this before, because wasn't your Anne
of green Gable.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yes, So there was two things that I loved from
PBS specials whenever they were doing their marathons to GPB
or PBS as we knew it. For me, that was
Channel eight, Willie.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
But obviously Sesame Street was something that I watched on
there as a young kid learning English. But the two
things that I remember is the Ann of Wing Gay
and they would sell these off and you would have
like chunks of the series being on here, and then
they would sell you the cassette tapes with whatever things
(02:10):
if you pledge certain amount of money. This girl did
not have that money. But I recorded the hell out
of those specials and I would be like.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Go, stop go.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I was the queen, and I don't know where those
tapes are, but yes, I end upreen Gables was one
of them. And lay Miss, which had LEAs Long and
if you don't know who that is, she is a
famous Broadway musical artist who really killed it in any
of these musicals. And she to me, we just talked
about representation with one of those people that I'm like,
(02:41):
oh my god, it's an Asian woman singing on Broadway
in a classic Broadway play, which I've already talked about.
Lamessbying a great book, but I watched the musical first
and then read the book. Loved, loved, loved Singing Rendition.
It wasn't the actual play that just came on stage
and saying they had that as a special and they
(03:02):
sold those DVDs off to the point that my best
friend at the times, mom, bought it for us so
we could keep watching it. She pledged money and got that.
We sat around and watched and I sang like I
was Eponine from l Miss and I adore those specials
and every time I still see clips of it. Y'all
(03:24):
don't know the joy that I that BROBA, But PBS
or GPP were the ones that were really doing this
as public broadcasting. I did not understand at the time
why we had to have so many breaks from my
amazing view and so, but we would have talked about
that and how much I remember that and how really
did affect what I loved about those series.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah, And we have talked about Sesame Street as
well in representation with that as well. I loved it
I don't know how I missed the Sesame Street Train
because as I mentioned, and that fictional Women around the
World episode. I like, as an adult have found clips
(04:06):
that I just love and find so much joy in.
But as a kid, I really loved Arthur was probably
my big one. Yeah, Arthur was a it was a
cartoon who was an ard arc a r v Oka
d b a Ark you would always spell it. There's
also an Arthur board game that I bought that was
(04:27):
just like you check out books from the library and
read them.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's how into Arthur I was.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay, I loved it, and I know that they had
kind of a reunion like a newer episode or like
some I think Buster was.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Gay and oh really I think so, And of course
everybody was mad, but of course, but you know, it
was just it was a.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Sweet like friendship navigating relationships type of thing. Remember the
one where Francine was embarrassed her father was a garbage
man and it turns out he's super cool and his
job was cool. Like it was just like stuff like that,
and you left with a good feeling and felt like
(05:16):
you'd learned something. That was my child's takeaway from it.
That's what I remember. I also have a friend who
I shall not name, who wrote Arthur fan fiction. It
was about being friends. It was no, it was very
very sweet. But yeah, that that was a big one
(05:38):
I loved. I loved Zoom.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I don't know this one.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Zoom was just a show where a bunch of kids
would do experiments. They would do science experiments, and they
were generally there was pretty good representation in there. But
I would always pick like one or two favorites I loved.
But they would just do science experiments and I was so.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Into I love that. There's so many things that I
think about. The show ghost Writer was one of my favorites.
Do you know anything about that show? No, it was
kind of spooky, but it's about an enslaved ghost who
died and comes back to tell his story to this
whole family. But like that level, I don't even remember
that part, but I remember loving it because it was
(06:23):
pretty intense, like he would tell stories of his past
and they would do re enactments and they would solve
these mysteries. But I'm like, oh my god, wow, they
really they really put this in the eighties. So ghost
Writer was a huge one that had a similar level
of that Zubale Zoo, which I look back on it
now that I'm like, that should have given me nightmares,
(06:44):
but I love that, and Ben Vereen coming in as
the mayor. They all dressed up as animals. There was
a tucan An adult playing all these things. So there
was a show which was I didn't think it was,
but I guess it was Thomas a tank engine and
George Carlin played a tiny conductor like that would pop up.
(07:05):
I don't know if it was supposed to be reminiscent
of like the Train, because I think it originally maybe
with the train from Mister Rogers, but there was a
king involved in that, which yes. So these were the
shows that I grew up. And this is the difference
between your generation and my generation. Captain Kangaroo ghost Writer,
(07:28):
which was really kind of like really revolutionary if I
think on it. Of course, like senesme Street is, I
feel like all generations, Thomas the Tank was a big
part of that generation as well. So like in Zubale Zoo,
which again it looks like a nightmare, like tripping a
little bit because you're like, what is happening? But then
(07:51):
you think look at things like what are those little
tubbies tell a tubbies that's scarce? That at me? At why?
But anyway, all that is a Those are the things
that I specifically remember growing up. George Carlin, who ended
(08:12):
up being like famous, a comedian who had some points.
I did not put those two together, but he was
a part of the Thomas the tank Engine.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Wow, I didn't know that either.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Things I remember now Shining Time Station is what it
was called.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Shining Time Station. Okay. See I love this because I
feel like you could ask whether you know it or not,
a lot of this public broadcasting media has seeped into
(08:58):
our subconscious.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It has it's part of our media landscape. So many
people know. Like Sesame Street, for instance, I really loved.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Wishbone after my generation too was a.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Dog who would dress up and tell you like a
Tale of Two Cities, and I would that was a
show I would watch like my friends and I would
go to our separate homes and watch it in silence
and then call each other and be like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Gosh, let's talk about Wishbone.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Did you really yes? Well, we also talked about Carmen
San Diego and Bybees was the introduction for me for
where in the world is Carmen San Diego with the
rockapillas if you know, you know where in the world
is Carman. I don't know why I did that, Octavi,
but you should definitely like these are the things that
I remember. And I'm really sad that with I don't
(09:56):
think maybe this is meaning too hopeful that they're going
to die out because they're too much of a legend
and they have talked about the five that they are
raising money we know with other other organizations as well,
but that if they don't get to experience this level
of childhood that really like coming back to this taught
(10:17):
me this, This showed me this, this. I don't know
if I learned any lessons from Zubualezu, but man, do
I remember those costumes? Well?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, And the thing is that was a lot of
it was really informative and educational and it was, but
it was still something as a kid that I was like, oh,
I'm so into this.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I want to learn about this.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
We've had conversations about you know, in our specific areas.
For instance, I but I had four or five stations,
you had what three or four, but PBS was always
one or GPB, Yes, and it was like.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
A reliable thing I knew and I could watch, and
they did. They have a lot more.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
They have a lot more programming than I think you
might know if you haven't gone to their websites. They
have so many documentaries. I mean they did they did
down Navvy, right, I mean they.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, so they they released a lot of BBC series.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah that's right, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, yeah, that's kind of the CBC would have been
the uh Anne green Gable, which is the Canadian series
because he's a very Canadian obviously, but like they are
the reason I was able to watch that, the international
level of series.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, they just have They have so much stuff that
I don't think people realize that they do.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Can't forget reading Rainbow.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Hello, hello, Yes, oh I loved Reading Rainbow obviously.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Oh we still do the song. Oh yes.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I was just talking to somebody I know you and
I've talked about this before, but I was talking to
somebody recently about the the Book Fair and how amazing
the Book Fair was and and reading Rainbow was kind
of like the.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
The TV version.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, of Oh I should go go to the library
get this book.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
The Scholastic Readers. Yeah, it was all in part because
of the Reading Rainbow.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yes, oh, I'm so mad I forgot about Reading Rainbow.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You're we almost we almost let a huge mistake.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But also a lot of times our episodes end when
we're talking about an activist around the world or someone
with they had a show on PBS or like they
had something with PBS. Uh, And so I think it's
important in that way too. I'm not obviously, I'm not
tuned in into the youth programming on PBS right now,
(12:53):
but when we do those episodes and they talk about
what they're doing on there, and I'm like, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm glad to think. And I'm sure there's a deep
rooted history. But like things like the Antique Show, things
like the remodeling show, This Old House was a PBS
show and it grew into having its own kind of networks, HGTV,
the Garden Networks, the cooking I watched the racist Louisiana Guy,
which I feel very ashamed about now. I didn't know
he was racist, You damn racist, Justin, but he was
(13:22):
wonderful as a Louisiana chef that I loved. Julia Childs
was featured on a lot of PBS shows. Yeah, the
growth of what happened for one small network, it really
could be attributed. They could be attributed for that type
of shows. Are we inundated now over the top with
those renovation shows? Sure, but PBS really had their hand
(13:46):
on that, I think before anyone else. To be very honest, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I'm glad you brought that up, because that's true. A
lot of times over on the other show I Do Savor,
which is about food and history of food, when we
spotlight a chef. A lot of times they had a
show on BBS that a lot of people connected with
and then from there they were able to publish their
(14:12):
own books, or open their own restaurants, or open their
own start their own line of cooking utensils or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And it did.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Expose a lot of Americans to foods that they might
not have been exposed to, like even you know, Julia
Child is a very like French food feels very you know,
close to America right now. But at the time, people
didn't know how to do that right. They didn't what
all these ingredients were, and she made it really approachable.
And there were so many examples of that that did
(14:44):
happen on PBS.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like maybe we need to take
it into a actual series and look at the history
of careers that they did for, especially like in marginalized people.
Surprisingly also people, but also marginalized people.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, both both for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know we're mostly talking about PBS, but I do
want to shout out I know I've mentioned it in
the episode we did with Michelle Norris, but my mom
and I would listen to NPR in the kitchen together
and we would learn about cooking and I mean, All
Things Considered was the show she was on.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
We would learn about all kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But I just have a lot of memories of being
in the kitchen with my mom and listening to that.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
And wasn't there were an overlapping of things like a
Prairie Home companion with PBS. Didn't they release some like
radio or like not like live shows, of which was
an NPR crossing.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Wow, you brought it back the Star Wars radio special.
That's NPR did that everyone, And it's amazing. It is
sixteen hours long and it is worth it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
This is the thing. This is like when we throw
to so many things that we've lost, but like it
really started a different type of culture. Started podcasting and
started like they did so many things because PBS really
did link in with other public networks and making sure
that they were highlighting voices. So I think they did
a great job and that so this is also what
(16:19):
governments are trying to stamp out. Obviously, Yes, and we do.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I'm sure we'll come back and talk about it more
in depth, but we do reference them periody often. I
remember in the Matosphere episode we referenced Invisibilia. I think
a lot about So they're doing great work and.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I just don't I hope it doesn't go away.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And I know people are fighting, and I'm part of
that fight. I know my mom is like, how can
I help? So we'll come back and get to the
more serious part. I just I just wanted to have
a a little nostalgic Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Check go check out zo Zoo. Think they only have
one year of this. Usually I'm gonna find you an
episode you'll see. I was like, this is someone was
on something. We're like, because they're gonna love it. They
weren't wrong. I loved it. You brought it back in
two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I've got to know more about this.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I feel like you've told me about it before, and
I need to rediscover it. I looked up pictures and
then probably blocked it out of me.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
We did, because they have it's a thing. There's there's
a beaver. Okay, there's a two can, all right, there's
so many things.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Go ahead, Okay, Okay, I'm gonna look it up. I'm excited.
I'm excited well, and I'm also excited to hear from
you listeners. If you have favorite shows or instances of
this public media that you want to share, please please
let no because I love hearing people have such specific
things that they remember from their childhood about this.
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Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome stuff I'll
never told you a prediction of by Heart Radio, and
welcome to another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if
you choose to drink or whatever you choose to do,
please do so responsibly.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Samantha, are you sipping on anything?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I got my bubbly water ready to go. All right,
what about you?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I got my red one ready to go.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yes, So, if you've been listening, I guess it's kind
of early in the month, so some of this hasn't
come out, but we're doing a lot of kind of
nostalgic episodes or look backs on things that we enjoyed
during childhood. And we recently were trying to pick the
(00:56):
movie we're going to do for the month, and in
there mentioned or we could just talk about PBS. So
I this is like a it's sad in the sense
that our national our publicly funded media in the United
States has lost one point one billion promised amount of
(01:17):
money from the federal government and so they're scrambling. But
we're not really going to dig into that sad part today.
I just wanted to talk about well I liked it
and what I liked when I was growing up. And
we have talked about this before, because wasn't your Anne
of green Gable.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yes, So there was two things that I loved from
PBS specials whenever they were doing their marathons to GPB
or PBS as we knew it. For me, that was
Channel eight, Willie.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
But obviously Sesame Street was something that I watched on
there as a young kid learning English. But the two
things that I remember is the Ann of Wing Gay
and they would sell these off and you would have
like chunks of the series being on here, and then
they would sell you the cassette tapes with whatever things
(02:10):
if you pledge certain amount of money. This girl did
not have that money. But I recorded the hell out
of those specials and I would be like.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Go, stop go.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I was the queen, and I don't know where those
tapes are, but yes, I end upreen Gables was one
of them. And lay Miss, which had LEAs Long and
if you don't know who that is, she is a
famous Broadway musical artist who really killed it in any
of these musicals. And she to me, we just talked
about representation with one of those people that I'm like,
(02:41):
oh my god, it's an Asian woman singing on Broadway
in a classic Broadway play, which I've already talked about.
Lamessbying a great book, but I watched the musical first
and then read the book. Loved, loved, loved Singing Rendition.
It wasn't the actual play that just came on stage
and saying they had that as a special and they
(03:02):
sold those DVDs off to the point that my best
friend at the times, mom, bought it for us so
we could keep watching it. She pledged money and got that.
We sat around and watched and I sang like I
was Eponine from l Miss and I adore those specials
and every time I still see clips of it. Y'all
(03:24):
don't know the joy that I that BROBA, But PBS
or GPP were the ones that were really doing this
as public broadcasting. I did not understand at the time
why we had to have so many breaks from my
amazing view and so, but we would have talked about
that and how much I remember that and how really
did affect what I loved about those series.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah, And we have talked about Sesame Street as
well in representation with that as well. I loved it
I don't know how I missed the Sesame Street Train
because as I mentioned, and that fictional Women around the
World episode. I like, as an adult have found clips
(04:06):
that I just love and find so much joy in.
But as a kid, I really loved Arthur was probably
my big one. Yeah, Arthur was a it was a
cartoon who was an ard arc a r v Oka
d b a Ark you would always spell it. There's
also an Arthur board game that I bought that was
(04:27):
just like you check out books from the library and
read them.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
That's how into Arthur I was.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay, I loved it, and I know that they had
kind of a reunion like a newer episode or like
some I think Buster was.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Gay and oh really I think so, And of course
everybody was mad, but of course, but you know, it
was just it was a.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Sweet like friendship navigating relationships type of thing. Remember the
one where Francine was embarrassed her father was a garbage
man and it turns out he's super cool and his
job was cool. Like it was just like stuff like that,
and you left with a good feeling and felt like
(05:16):
you'd learned something. That was my child's takeaway from it.
That's what I remember. I also have a friend who
I shall not name, who wrote Arthur fan fiction. It
was about being friends. It was no, it was very
very sweet. But yeah, that that was a big one
(05:38):
I loved. I loved Zoom.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I don't know this one.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Zoom was just a show where a bunch of kids
would do experiments. They would do science experiments, and they
were generally there was pretty good representation in there. But
I would always pick like one or two favorites I loved.
But they would just do science experiments and I was so.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Into I love that. There's so many things that I
think about. The show ghost Writer was one of my favorites.
Do you know anything about that show? No, it was
kind of spooky, but it's about an enslaved ghost who
died and comes back to tell his story to this
whole family. But like that level, I don't even remember
that part, but I remember loving it because it was
(06:23):
pretty intense, like he would tell stories of his past
and they would do re enactments and they would solve
these mysteries. But I'm like, oh my god, wow, they
really they really put this in the eighties. So ghost
Writer was a huge one that had a similar level
of that Zubale Zoo, which I look back on it
now that I'm like, that should have given me nightmares,
(06:44):
but I love that, and Ben Vereen coming in as
the mayor. They all dressed up as animals. There was
a tucan An adult playing all these things. So there
was a show which was I didn't think it was,
but I guess it was Thomas a tank engine and
George Carlin played a tiny conductor like that would pop up.
(07:05):
I don't know if it was supposed to be reminiscent
of like the Train, because I think it originally maybe
with the train from Mister Rogers, but there was a
king involved in that, which yes. So these were the
shows that I grew up. And this is the difference
between your generation and my generation. Captain Kangaroo ghost Writer,
(07:28):
which was really kind of like really revolutionary if I
think on it. Of course, like senesme Street is, I
feel like all generations, Thomas the Tank was a big
part of that generation as well. So like in Zubale Zoo,
which again it looks like a nightmare, like tripping a
little bit because you're like, what is happening? But then
(07:51):
you think look at things like what are those little
tubbies tell a tubbies that's scarce? That at me? At why?
But anyway, all that is a Those are the things
that I specifically remember growing up. George Carlin, who ended
(08:12):
up being like famous, a comedian who had some points.
I did not put those two together, but he was
a part of the Thomas the tank Engine.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Wow, I didn't know that either.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Things I remember now Shining Time Station is what it
was called.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Shining Time Station. Okay. See I love this because I
feel like you could ask whether you know it or not,
a lot of this public broadcasting media has seeped into
(08:58):
our subconscious.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It has it's part of our media landscape. So many
people know. Like Sesame Street, for instance, I really loved.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Wishbone after my generation too was a.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Dog who would dress up and tell you like a
Tale of Two Cities, and I would that was a
show I would watch like my friends and I would
go to our separate homes and watch it in silence
and then call each other and be like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Gosh, let's talk about Wishbone.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Did you really yes? Well, we also talked about Carmen
San Diego and Bybees was the introduction for me for
where in the world is Carmen San Diego with the
rockapillas if you know, you know where in the world
is Carman. I don't know why I did that, Octavi,
but you should definitely like these are the things that
I remember. And I'm really sad that with I don't
(09:56):
think maybe this is meaning too hopeful that they're going
to die out because they're too much of a legend
and they have talked about the five that they are
raising money we know with other other organizations as well,
but that if they don't get to experience this level
of childhood that really like coming back to this taught
(10:17):
me this, This showed me this, this. I don't know
if I learned any lessons from Zubualezu, but man, do
I remember those costumes? Well?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, And the thing is that was a lot of
it was really informative and educational and it was, but
it was still something as a kid that I was like, oh,
I'm so into this.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I want to learn about this.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
We've had conversations about you know, in our specific areas.
For instance, I but I had four or five stations,
you had what three or four, but PBS was always
one or GPB, Yes, and it was like.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
A reliable thing I knew and I could watch, and
they did. They have a lot more.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
They have a lot more programming than I think you
might know if you haven't gone to their websites. They
have so many documentaries. I mean they did they did
down Navvy, right, I mean they.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, so they they released a lot of BBC series.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah that's right, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, yeah, that's kind of the CBC would have been
the uh Anne green Gable, which is the Canadian series
because he's a very Canadian obviously, but like they are
the reason I was able to watch that, the international
level of series.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, they just have They have so much stuff that
I don't think people realize that they do.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Can't forget reading Rainbow.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Hello, hello, Yes, oh I loved Reading Rainbow obviously.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Oh we still do the song. Oh yes.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I was just talking to somebody I know you and
I've talked about this before, but I was talking to
somebody recently about the the Book Fair and how amazing
the Book Fair was and and reading Rainbow was kind
of like the.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
The TV version.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, of Oh I should go go to the library
get this book.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
The Scholastic Readers. Yeah, it was all in part because
of the Reading Rainbow.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yes, oh, I'm so mad I forgot about Reading Rainbow.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You're we almost we almost let a huge mistake.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But also a lot of times our episodes end when
we're talking about an activist around the world or someone
with they had a show on PBS or like they
had something with PBS. Uh, And so I think it's
important in that way too. I'm not obviously, I'm not
tuned in into the youth programming on PBS right now,
(12:53):
but when we do those episodes and they talk about
what they're doing on there, and I'm like, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm glad to think. And I'm sure there's a deep
rooted history. But like things like the Antique Show, things
like the remodeling show, This Old House was a PBS
show and it grew into having its own kind of networks, HGTV,
the Garden Networks, the cooking I watched the racist Louisiana Guy,
which I feel very ashamed about now. I didn't know
he was racist, You damn racist, Justin, but he was
(13:22):
wonderful as a Louisiana chef that I loved. Julia Childs
was featured on a lot of PBS shows. Yeah, the
growth of what happened for one small network, it really
could be attributed. They could be attributed for that type
of shows. Are we inundated now over the top with
those renovation shows? Sure, but PBS really had their hand
(13:46):
on that, I think before anyone else. To be very honest, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I'm glad you brought that up, because that's true. A
lot of times over on the other show I Do Savor,
which is about food and history of food, when we
spotlight a chef. A lot of times they had a
show on BBS that a lot of people connected with
and then from there they were able to publish their
(14:12):
own books, or open their own restaurants, or open their
own start their own line of cooking utensils or whatever.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And it did.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Expose a lot of Americans to foods that they might
not have been exposed to, like even you know, Julia
Child is a very like French food feels very you know,
close to America right now. But at the time, people
didn't know how to do that right. They didn't what
all these ingredients were, and she made it really approachable.
And there were so many examples of that that did
(14:44):
happen on PBS.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like maybe we need to take
it into a actual series and look at the history
of careers that they did for, especially like in marginalized people.
Surprisingly also people, but also marginalized people.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, both both for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You know we're mostly talking about PBS, but I do
want to shout out I know I've mentioned it in
the episode we did with Michelle Norris, but my mom
and I would listen to NPR in the kitchen together
and we would learn about cooking and I mean, All
Things Considered was the show she was on.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
We would learn about all kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But I just have a lot of memories of being
in the kitchen with my mom and listening to that.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
And wasn't there were an overlapping of things like a
Prairie Home companion with PBS. Didn't they release some like
radio or like not like live shows, of which was
an NPR crossing.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Wow, you brought it back the Star Wars radio special.
That's NPR did that everyone, And it's amazing. It is
sixteen hours long and it is worth it.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
This is the thing. This is like when we throw
to so many things that we've lost, but like it
really started a different type of culture. Started podcasting and
started like they did so many things because PBS really
did link in with other public networks and making sure
that they were highlighting voices. So I think they did
a great job and that so this is also what
(16:19):
governments are trying to stamp out. Obviously, Yes, and we do.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I'm sure we'll come back and talk about it more
in depth, but we do reference them periody often. I
remember in the Matosphere episode we referenced Invisibilia. I think
a lot about So they're doing great work and.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I just don't I hope it doesn't go away.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And I know people are fighting, and I'm part of
that fight. I know my mom is like, how can
I help? So we'll come back and get to the
more serious part. I just I just wanted to have
a a little nostalgic Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Check go check out zo Zoo. Think they only have
one year of this. Usually I'm gonna find you an
episode you'll see. I was like, this is someone was
on something. We're like, because they're gonna love it. They
weren't wrong. I loved it. You brought it back in
two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I've got to know more about this.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I feel like you've told me about it before, and
I need to rediscover it. I looked up pictures and
then probably blocked it out of me.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
We did, because they have it's a thing. There's there's
a beaver. Okay, there's a two can, all right, there's
so many things.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Go ahead, Okay, Okay, I'm gonna look it up. I'm excited.
I'm excited well, and I'm also excited to hear from
you listeners. If you have favorite shows or instances of
this public media that you want to share, please please
let no because I love hearing people have such specific
things that they remember from their childhood about this.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
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Speaker 2 (18:15):
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Speaker 1 (18:16):
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