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December 30, 2021 18 mins

Our Sex and the City endeavor continues with the fourth episode of season one. We sip some drinks and discuss age differences in relationships, dating mishaps, and healthy discussions around sex. 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I welcome to stephone
ever told you production of I Heart Radio, And welcome
to another sub sub segment of our watch of Sex
in the City. And we're already talking about how long

(00:26):
this is going to take. Yeah, I hope if we
ever do leave the show, someone takes the mental up
and continue with it because it needs to be finished.
But we are on episode four. I hope you had
the chance to. If you've not watched all of Sex
in City yet, you should watch it first. I get
I don't know, maybe you don't have to, yeah or
what I mean, but it's like, just just like that,
that is out and just like that is out right now,

(00:48):
and we have already done that episode, so I hope
you have enjoyed that as well. And there is an
accompaniment podcast through my Heart that is happening with and
just like that, but we are throwing it all the
way back to the original first season at this point
in time of Sex in the City. And and I
if you want to do a recap about first three episodes, okay,

(01:12):
because just a reminder, this is my first time um
watching these. It's been very interesting so far. We've had
conversations around women, single women versus married women. You've had
discussions around like body, liking your body or not liking
your body, and then loving like a man, that is,

(01:36):
to just have sex and be emotionless, I guess, and
not worrying about no emotions, no emotion, no connection, no connections,
and then models being an issue in general. Yes, very good,
and I guess we should go ahead and put this out.
We know what's going on in the world of sex

(01:57):
in the City and just like that, when it comes
to the allegations towards Chrisnoth, and are very glad to
see that the women, the main women of sex in
the City and just like that have issued a statement
and UM support of the women who have come forward,
as are we. This definitely changes how we see a

(02:18):
lot of this and I'm very sad by that. At
the same time, I'm very glad that the women have
found the courage to do what they needed to do
and we support them as well. We will definitely keep
a watch as to what that looks like UM in
the future. Of course, Yes, this is all just allegations
at this point in time, but we are very big
supporters of believing women and that's where we will leave that. So, yeah,

(02:41):
I don't know about you any but for me, we're
not something like this happens, which we did have a
conversation the other day. It was like why why are men?
Just in general, why are men um? And this is
kind of one of those moments of like, you know,
you see something and it changes your perspective forever. And
there are certain shows, movies, things that I can't watch
an more because of things like that, And so we

(03:02):
understand if you're like, yeah, this kills all of that
as well, there's a lot of process and yeah, just why,
just why. It's exhausting. It is really exhausting and very unfortunate,
right and we're not going to ignore it, which is
why we wanted to go ahead and address that. But
we are continuing on at this point in time. He's

(03:22):
not a big character right now, so we've already been
introduced to Skipper, who is not He's a he's a
kind of a main guy for the first couple of seasons,
I think, or at least the first season for sure,
but after that he does kind of fade away. We're
about to see him again. Um, but are you ready
for what is any's prediction. Everyone is ready, everyone for me.

(03:46):
So the title of this episode is called Valley of
the Twenties something. Guys, what do you think that is? Ah?
I think that it is a like twenty year old
men who young twenty year old men whom are kind

(04:10):
of out of I don't know if out of the
league is the right word, but they're like immaturely flirting
with older women and I don't know, maybe going to
places where twenty year old dudes have sort of overtaken it. Okay, okay,
we'll see. We'll see. Chris not is in this one.

(04:31):
I do remember this, okay, so he is back in here,
so we'll see. There's no I don't think there's any
introductions to anyone new er or a staple. So I
think this is This is fine. Also, we are sipping
because it is a happy hour. I made another round
of Cosmos and they are delicious. Are you ready? I'm ready?

(04:53):
Here we go. Okay, we'll see what you got right,
I don't know. All right, it's official, he's late. Who
Mr Big? Who else? Carrie? That's great? Is it? Date?
So he called it a thing? He said, meet me
maybe for a drinking she's really she's put on the fur,

(05:18):
she's really showing up for this date, right, this non date.
You know what, I think we've all been there. You
don't want to call it a date, so you call
it a meet up and get together, drink coffee, you know,
but it's not a date because but that does seem
outdated a little bit, that word. Maybe I'm just outdated dates. Yeah,

(05:44):
twenty something guys always know the really important be people,
bus points, something's know a lot of people and things
they're experimenting with a younger group. Oh so my partner
is five years younger than me. M. I think that's right,

(06:05):
and so he is coming towards his late third later
thirties and I am early forties. But it's something that
I had to really adjust to. It was like four
or five year difference, and as you know, young as
I feel it's so weird, right right, So going that significant,
I feel like this whole thing I will. And also

(06:26):
I think there's a personally and I think for a
lot of people. If I look back when I was twenty, no,
I did not know a thing. I did not know
a damn thing. Everybody in here is in their twenties
and so are we pretend to be twenties twenties? I

(06:49):
once accidentally, I was pretty drunk and I lied about
my age, And then later I was like, why did
I lie? From my age was older or younger, younger
but not by much. But it was just like why
did I? Yeah? I mean, if I was to go
back on the dating side, I wonder because I think,
have we hit the group where? Not because I don't

(07:10):
want to date my age, But when I was on
the app in being mid thirties, I was getting hit
on by guys from what one is now my age,
and their limit was like whenever I was thirty five,
that was the top of the limit, And so I wondered,
I was like, is it even worth it? Yeah, I'm

(07:32):
seeing each other for a couple of weeks. I really
like you. Tomorrow night after dinner, I want us to
have anal salt, so the screens together, all of the
women to have this discussion to do or not to
do anal Okay, it's all about control. It goes up there.

(07:53):
There's going to be a shifting this conversation too. Is
it about power? I guess when I have this conversation
with my friend. I was more like, it sounds like
you're just doing it because you think he's going to
leave you if you don't know, And I don't think
that's a healthy space. Yeah, the regular way, Yes, please.

(08:18):
As awkward as that is, that is at least a
healthy conversation. He tells her what he wants, she doesn't
want it, he accepts it and moves it on. In
the story, that's how it's done. Decisions, decisions, talking it through,
not being shamed, and what you like, right or what
you don't like and what you don't like. That is

(08:39):
healthy communication. Did they make it? No, because we never
see him again after this, that's still healthy community. All right,

(09:04):
what's my score? What do I get? Twenty somethings were there,
so I guess you get like I feel like I get. Okay,
i'll give you thirty. There was flirting with twenty year olds,
so i'll get you were going to places where they
were a bunch of twenty year olds. Okay, I'll give
you fifty because you're right, there was flirting. There were

(09:26):
twenty year olds involved, but it was more of an
experiment and it it's kind of funny to be on
all the different episodes that we watch. It is like
a very tale tale like experimentation of dating, and we've
all been there. That's one of the things I did
love about. I hate dating. I get anxious. I hate it.
My first actual online date, I was so freaked out.

(09:47):
I had my roommate and her boyfriend follow us. They
got seated right behind us, which is hilarious. Um, it
wasn't a good date. We moved on, but like it
became like a running story and I started dating more
and more. It became interesting because at least I had
the good stories to come away from it, which it's
kind of like this experiment of who are you dating?

(10:07):
Where did they come from? Type of thing? Yeah, yeah,
and the kind of the puzzle of the whole thing.
And I think that is a very relatable experience of
going back to those assumptions that you have, that you
make and what you think a thing is versus what
the other person thinks the thing is. And that's why
communication is important, but also the other person being willing

(10:29):
to hear you. I think the nineties to early two
thousand's maybe it is still happening, and I don't understand
it because I'm not dating anymore as per se. But
it is like a power play of you know what,
I know what happens, because yeah, even before this relationship
has been a bit a while, like I would not
text unless he texted first. I would make sure that

(10:52):
it was very cool and not needy trying to be
playing it cool even though I'm freaking out. So if
I'm texting him, y'all went this far. If I was
texting him, i met him on the dating site and
he didn't respond in a certain amount of time, I
would go and see if he had been online, and
some of them would show the last time they were online.
I'm like you sort of a you son of a

(11:14):
all the bad things, and it was a power play. Yeah,
I mean that's I feel like I was never very
healthy in my dating life, and I think maybe now
I've got more tools than I could be better. But
it was always about power. It was always about who
is holding the cards here, who is the one that

(11:36):
is more ready to leave and who's going to be
okay with that? And that's not a great way to
be but it to me it makes sense, like you're
kind of always thinking about the calculating like, okay, it
is calculation like who it looks more needy, who looks
like they have the power? Who left it on red? Yeah, yeah,

(12:00):
those Texas And yes, well, And I think that's interesting
about like when it comes to women and how we've
been socialized. Of the conversation Charlotte had of if I
don't do this, you're never going to marry me, because
it means I'm basically the slut, I would say, versus
if I also don't do it, then I'm letting you down,

(12:24):
and you feel like I owe this to you, And
I feel like a lot of a lot of us
in a lot of women feel that way, um, where
you're always kind of like balancing that line of I
have to satisfy this dude in this very head row relationship,
but also I can't be two forward with what I

(12:45):
want or two I can't give in also in quotes
of like having anal sex because then he'll be done
with me, right, I mean, And that's definitely a big
conversation we've constantly had, and we still have the idea
that we owe them something and we owe them what
they want to the full thing, as well as the

(13:05):
fact that you know the same lady in the streets breaking,
the streaking, the cheese lady in the streets type of thing.
It's that conversation of like being a certain type of
way and only one way, and it's all about you
and how we make you look or how we make
you feel and want to say. We talk about in
a heteronormative idea of women versus men, But that is
that big conversation and I do really like that that

(13:28):
she was able to say no, I don't like this,
And of course her character seems a lot more conservative
compared to but it's a really great conversation to have
and try to see where she was able to say no.
She was able to talk to all of our friends
with very different thoughts and processing and then being able
to say no, I don't like it, and him accepting it. Again,

(13:50):
I'm like, that's nice. Is that always reality? No, But
I'm glad to see it like that that she didn't
just give in me too. I think that's I wish
I had had the bill reality to do that, because
I would get so in my head about I have
to do it this way or this way. But it
was never about what I wanted to write, always about
what the other person wanted, and I wish I'd had
at least had the conversation, even if the answer, which

(14:13):
so often it was for me, was I don't know right, um,
but I'm not comfortable with it right now. And I
you know, we've talked about this before. I was raised
very conservatively, so there are a lot of things where
I was like, even if I'm okay with this, I'm like,
knee jerk, not okay, right, agreed. I mean, I've definitely
had the figuring out what a blowjob was was hilarious,

(14:35):
and me asking my mom about it and the fact
that my mom was very straightforward and their moment, like
I kind of didn't want to know this from my
mother because that makes me think, oh, no, I didn't
need to know about this about my parents. But but
the fact of about it, she's like, you know, she's
kind of the same way as we talk about sex
in the old school conservative ideas about loving someone and

(14:56):
enjoying something because you love that person conversation, and I
was like, uh, that's an interesting take, yeah, because for
so long it's so dirty and it's all about men
having power over women or men having power over someone else, um,
in general, So it felt very nice to see my
that perspective and being able to ask her and she

(15:17):
didn't completely freak out. Yeah, it was was a good conversation.
But in my head, it's definitely one of those things
like why would we do this? I don't understand this,
what is this? And it's a joke, and it's a
joke A gets women. That's what it felt like for
so long. Yeah, and we talked about that. I was
the same way. And this is not to say because
I've had friends who said I feel very powerful being
able to get that type of pleasure, But to me,
I always thought it was degrading. And I think some

(15:39):
of the things like we saw on TV, I would
see running jokes if like it must have been his birthday,
or basically implying it's definitely not about her. It's something
that is all about the dude's pleasure and kind of
a transactional thing, which we've also been talking about. All right,
But I do know people who and I think that's good,
Like if it's healthy and you know why you want

(16:00):
it and you're cool with it, and you have this
kind of conversation about it, and yeah, go for it.
I mean to be honest for me as well, like
not to get too personal, like I do enjoy things
like knowing that making that's just making someone happy, but
it feels sexy to me too, and that's that's great.
But like, of course again that a change on a
flip with who your partner is. And that's the conversation too, yes,

(16:21):
and and like why you're doing it and others like
asking and it's all these questions that they were having
in this of always like what it is, trying to
figure out what's behind, do you feel comfortable? Do you
want to do it? And the good having good like
aspects kind of like the listener has sent us when
we did the original uh Sex in the City episode.
She was like, you know, I feel like they all

(16:42):
represent one person, but different aspects of your personality. I
was like, yeah, absolutely, you're correct. I feel like they
do like have a thing that like there's a small
bit of each of them in one person typically yes,
typically all right, So what did you think about this episode?
I enjoyed it. I think there was a lot of

(17:04):
Obviously it stirred up some conversation with us. I was
able to relate in things that I've talked about with
my friends. I enjoyed as always the nineties, hardcore nineties,
Timothy Oliphant, some are too. Yeah, I've never noticed that ever.
I feel like the nerd. Okay, every time I love it. Yes, Well,

(17:33):
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, and y'all I enjoyed it,
and I hope you guys can join us again and
that you've enjoyed it as well, because we're going to
keep on going. Yes, this is the Sminty Gauntlet, only
nine episodes left in a couple of movies. Yes, and
we hope that you will join us along the way. Listeners,

(17:53):
and as always, we would love to hear your thoughts
about any and everything we're talking about. You can email
us at Stephanie mom Stuff at I hurt media dot com.
You can find us on Twitter at mom Stuff podcast
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