June 30, 2025 • 12 mins
As we come to the end of Pride 2025, we go over some of the fights we're fighting, conversations we're having and the hope we're holding onto.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. I'm welcome to stuff
I never told you, prodicction of iheartright you. And today,
as it comes out, is June thirtieth, just the end
of Pride month, June thirtieth, twenty twenty five. And I
(00:27):
hope that people had a great time and that you've
got to do some really fun things and hang out
with some really cool people. That being said, we are
doing a quick roundup of Pride related news, and most
of it's bad and sadly, this is only a handful
of what we could mention in a Monday MANI, and
(00:49):
we're not going into too much detail on a lot
of it, so just that caveat, but I figured we
should go over some of these things, starting with the
continued attacks on the trans community here in the US
and elsewhere, but specific here in the US. So we
had the Supreme Court which upheld Tennessee's ban on gender
(01:12):
affirming care for transgender youth, which is sort of setting
up the stage for a lot of other states to
do it as well. We've got the ban of trans
people serving in the military. We have the Administration threatening
to sue California over a state law that allows for
trans athletes to compete in sports, and then removing the
(01:37):
tea from government documents and websites so it's LGB including
the Stonewall National Park, this website. So that is something
that we're going to have to be really vigilant about.
This is a concentrated attack.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, it's so funny.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's I don't think this is going to land in
people speaking about it because it's too.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
This is it looks so weird.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It looks like you're talking about someone specifically the initial LGB.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, like like Lyndon John, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Like, yeah, this doesn't make sense and I'm glad for that,
and I'm going to remain.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It like that because that's just seething anger.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Continue yes, yes, seething anger. And again that's only a
handful of things. Unfortunately, there's also continue to text on
Pride and the LGBTQ plus community at large. So there
was the doing away with the specific funding for LGBTQ
plus support on the suicide Hotline, the National Suicide Hotline.
(02:49):
Since it's debuted in twenty two, it received over a
million calls. And this is happening as numbers indicate that
suicidality goes out for trans and non binary youth in
states enacting restrictive laws that we're seeing happen, and numbers
also indicate that the percentage of LGBTQ plus youth who
(03:11):
experienced suicidality within the past year is disturbingly high. So
that's a pretty big, pretty big thing too. And I
mean the thing is like it was a you would
call in and if it was something specifically related to
your identity or something, they would connect you with someone
who was like the qualified person to help with that
(03:34):
specific thing. So they're kind of just removing that. Also, yeah,
the canceling are relocating any Pride events at the Kennedy Center,
which is like the main place for government events in Washington,
d C. There was like a way some people got
around this.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
But.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
The interim director of the Kennedy Center, Richard Grennell, who
is gay himself, said in a recent interview with Politico,
you go to a I parade and it's embarrassing. It's
real French and it's too sexual. And I think that
we have to start critiquing ourselves. By the way, this
opinion is extremely popular with normal gaze. We shall return
to this point of normal gaze in a minute, but
(04:14):
for now, put a pin it. Yep. But this brings
us to why intersectionality is important, or at least that
is one of the things I kept thinking about when
I was researching this. So, for instance, we have instead
of Pride Month, the White House has dubbed June Title
(04:35):
nine month as another attack on trans women, claiming it
protects Title nine protects women and girls and keeps trans
women from competing in women's sports. So this is like
another way of kind of splitting marginalized peoples of sea.
But we're protecting the women here.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Dis mentally any like government mental organizations that are supposed
to help women.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yes, exactly, that's like my whole thing. Like you've just
basically put into.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Not shell, the whole thing of this level like we care,
we don't, we don't don't, we don't, but we will
use this, will pretend like we.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Will use this until we take it away from you
as well, so straight pride. I also saw some things
about this. We've talked about this before. The only reason
I bring it up that they are kind of laughably
poorly attended, but they're very regularly embroiled with racism. And
(05:47):
other like sexism, other things, but like racism specifically. So
I think this is another issue where we have to
look at why these things are connected. Why like the
interest being like straight white, yes, but right, nothing else.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Did you see that recent festival where the dudes like,
it's a straight festival and everybody's so excited and they
were having.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They called it. I forgot what they called it. It wasn't
just general awesome.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yes, yeah, And then the one podcast like and there's
no black people and you're like, yeah, that's thank you,
We're exactly and then the person who created it is like, no,
that's not what we meant. I'm just I'm just saying
I wouldn't say that out loud. He didn't sa out loud,
but I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But the person like it was somebody who represented everything
that happened there, and he was trying to like pretend
it was head Like, no, bro, that's what you meant.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well there was another instance of exactly that where I
think that the funding behind I believe it was in California,
a straight Pride event was brought into question and it
was at a I don't know, the city council, meaning
or something, and the organization was like, we're a peaceful
(07:05):
racist group, and somebody like laughed aloud and was like,
oh my god, you said it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Again.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I think we talked about that at the very beginning
of this new administration. Is like, at the very least,
now we get to really see who we have to
stay away from.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yes, speaking of the new administration, let's go back to
this normal gase thing here. So I had actually never
heard this term before in like the context of a thing.
(07:48):
But when I heard it, I was like, I'm pretty
sure I know exactly what they're talking about. And I
was like, yep, okay, I got it. So we're talking
about the rise of this conservative push to create a
narrative of their being normal game, which JD. Vance said
that they could get the normal gaze vote in the
election in an interview with Joe Rogan. And so if
(08:10):
you're thinking, well, what prey tale is a normal gay?
All right? So normal gays don't dye their hair, they
don't have any pride related items, and they would certainly
never display them if they did, And they're conservative politically
and think that Trump is right to erase pride and
(08:31):
protect children from indoctrination, and from what I've seen, are
largely white men. I can't confirm that, but I from
what I've.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Seen, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And then this comes back to when we talked about
like the pride events in Georgia and Atlanta specifically, and
why they are segregated events essentially, like this is that
same level of like, no, but we do it in
this classy way, in this way, they do it in
this way, and like obviously he's just talking about closet
gay people at this point again where they were not
doing out they were fine with as long as you
(09:03):
weren't acknowledging that a's life, that this exists in general.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well yes, so it's also we've talked about this a lot,
but this is sort of the same, at least to me,
this is sort of the same, like proximity to a
white supremacy or proximity to power of I will be
(09:30):
fine as long as I play along, as long as
I don't get my pride flags out and make a
big deal out of it. I'm definitely not a token.
But there is a big group called the log Cabin
Republicans who are gay people who are conservative and are
(09:53):
like we're the new kind of conservative gay voices, and
they have like a listing of what they have, a
whole artic about being what a normal gay is, and
they basically are like very wishy wash. It's not the
right word they're they're saying in a nice way, like
we just want our money and our borders to be
(10:15):
secure and all of those things. But yeah, if you
want to look it at you can. But it's again,
it's it's a very us versus them arguments. It's very
everyone else in the queer community who doesn't think like
me is not a normal gay, but I am all
(10:37):
while the administration is widdling down rights that impact the
entire queer community. And yes, it will impact you one day,
Yes it will. I promise you it will. So that
is some of the bad that's going on. But you know,
(10:58):
Pride is about resistance. That's why it got started stone
Wall Like, if you want to learn more about the
history of that, you can see the podcast that we've
been talking about on the show after Live season two.
But it started out as resistance and people are fighting
(11:18):
in court at the local level and organizations that we
mentioned in Feminess around the World segments for instance, like
people are fighting. So I know it's been a rough
pride in a lot of ways, but we will keep going,
and I really do. I've been happy to see people
who celebrated and who still had joy during this pride
(11:44):
and are still keeping fight going. So yes, yes, listeners,
please let us know if there are any organizations or
topics around this you would like us to come back
to or shout out, or if you had to it's
like a fun pride, let us know about it. You
can email us at Hello at Stuffwenever Told You dot com.
(12:05):
You can find us on Blue Skype, Molso podcast, or
on Instagram and TikTok at stuff One Never Told You.
We're also on YouTube and we have a book you
can get where we get your books. Thanks as always
to our super producer Christine or exective presuer Mya and
our contributor Joey. Thank you and thanks to you for
listening Stuff I Never Told You spection by Heart Radio.
For more podcasts from my heart Radio, you can check
out the Heart Radio, a Apple podcast, or if you
listen to your favorite shit
Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. I'm welcome to stuff
I never told you, prodicction of iheartright you. And today,
as it comes out, is June thirtieth, just the end
of Pride month, June thirtieth, twenty twenty five. And I
(00:27):
hope that people had a great time and that you've
got to do some really fun things and hang out
with some really cool people. That being said, we are
doing a quick roundup of Pride related news, and most
of it's bad and sadly, this is only a handful
of what we could mention in a Monday MANI, and
(00:49):
we're not going into too much detail on a lot
of it, so just that caveat, but I figured we
should go over some of these things, starting with the
continued attacks on the trans community here in the US
and elsewhere, but specific here in the US. So we
had the Supreme Court which upheld Tennessee's ban on gender
(01:12):
affirming care for transgender youth, which is sort of setting
up the stage for a lot of other states to
do it as well. We've got the ban of trans
people serving in the military. We have the Administration threatening
to sue California over a state law that allows for
trans athletes to compete in sports, and then removing the
(01:37):
tea from government documents and websites so it's LGB including
the Stonewall National Park, this website. So that is something
that we're going to have to be really vigilant about.
This is a concentrated attack.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, it's so funny.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's I don't think this is going to land in
people speaking about it because it's too.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
This is it looks so weird.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It looks like you're talking about someone specifically the initial LGB.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, like like Lyndon John, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Like, yeah, this doesn't make sense and I'm glad for that,
and I'm going to remain.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It like that because that's just seething anger.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Continue yes, yes, seething anger. And again that's only a
handful of things. Unfortunately, there's also continue to text on
Pride and the LGBTQ plus community at large. So there
was the doing away with the specific funding for LGBTQ
plus support on the suicide Hotline, the National Suicide Hotline.
(02:49):
Since it's debuted in twenty two, it received over a
million calls. And this is happening as numbers indicate that
suicidality goes out for trans and non binary youth in
states enacting restrictive laws that we're seeing happen, and numbers
also indicate that the percentage of LGBTQ plus youth who
(03:11):
experienced suicidality within the past year is disturbingly high. So
that's a pretty big, pretty big thing too. And I
mean the thing is like it was a you would
call in and if it was something specifically related to
your identity or something, they would connect you with someone
who was like the qualified person to help with that
(03:34):
specific thing. So they're kind of just removing that. Also, yeah,
the canceling are relocating any Pride events at the Kennedy Center,
which is like the main place for government events in Washington,
d C. There was like a way some people got
around this.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
But.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
The interim director of the Kennedy Center, Richard Grennell, who
is gay himself, said in a recent interview with Politico,
you go to a I parade and it's embarrassing. It's
real French and it's too sexual. And I think that
we have to start critiquing ourselves. By the way, this
opinion is extremely popular with normal gaze. We shall return
to this point of normal gaze in a minute, but
(04:14):
for now, put a pin it. Yep. But this brings
us to why intersectionality is important, or at least that
is one of the things I kept thinking about when
I was researching this. So, for instance, we have instead
of Pride Month, the White House has dubbed June Title
(04:35):
nine month as another attack on trans women, claiming it
protects Title nine protects women and girls and keeps trans
women from competing in women's sports. So this is like
another way of kind of splitting marginalized peoples of sea.
But we're protecting the women here.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Dis mentally any like government mental organizations that are supposed
to help women.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yes, exactly, that's like my whole thing. Like you've just
basically put into.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Not shell, the whole thing of this level like we care,
we don't, we don't don't, we don't, but we will
use this, will pretend like we.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Will use this until we take it away from you
as well, so straight pride. I also saw some things
about this. We've talked about this before. The only reason
I bring it up that they are kind of laughably
poorly attended, but they're very regularly embroiled with racism. And
(05:47):
other like sexism, other things, but like racism specifically. So
I think this is another issue where we have to
look at why these things are connected. Why like the
interest being like straight white, yes, but right, nothing else.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Did you see that recent festival where the dudes like,
it's a straight festival and everybody's so excited and they
were having.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They called it. I forgot what they called it. It wasn't
just general awesome.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yes, yeah, And then the one podcast like and there's
no black people and you're like, yeah, that's thank you,
We're exactly and then the person who created it is like, no,
that's not what we meant. I'm just I'm just saying
I wouldn't say that out loud. He didn't sa out loud,
but I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But the person like it was somebody who represented everything
that happened there, and he was trying to like pretend
it was head Like, no, bro, that's what you meant.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well there was another instance of exactly that where I
think that the funding behind I believe it was in California,
a straight Pride event was brought into question and it
was at a I don't know, the city council, meaning
or something, and the organization was like, we're a peaceful
(07:05):
racist group, and somebody like laughed aloud and was like,
oh my god, you said it.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Again.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I think we talked about that at the very beginning
of this new administration. Is like, at the very least,
now we get to really see who we have to
stay away from.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yes, speaking of the new administration, let's go back to
this normal gase thing here. So I had actually never
heard this term before in like the context of a thing.
(07:48):
But when I heard it, I was like, I'm pretty
sure I know exactly what they're talking about. And I
was like, yep, okay, I got it. So we're talking
about the rise of this conservative push to create a
narrative of their being normal game, which JD. Vance said
that they could get the normal gaze vote in the
election in an interview with Joe Rogan. And so if
(08:10):
you're thinking, well, what prey tale is a normal gay?
All right? So normal gays don't dye their hair, they
don't have any pride related items, and they would certainly
never display them if they did, And they're conservative politically
and think that Trump is right to erase pride and
(08:31):
protect children from indoctrination, and from what I've seen, are
largely white men. I can't confirm that, but I from
what I've.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Seen, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And then this comes back to when we talked about
like the pride events in Georgia and Atlanta specifically, and
why they are segregated events essentially, like this is that
same level of like, no, but we do it in
this classy way, in this way, they do it in
this way, and like obviously he's just talking about closet
gay people at this point again where they were not
doing out they were fine with as long as you
(09:03):
weren't acknowledging that a's life, that this exists in general.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well yes, so it's also we've talked about this a lot,
but this is sort of the same, at least to me,
this is sort of the same, like proximity to a
white supremacy or proximity to power of I will be
(09:30):
fine as long as I play along, as long as
I don't get my pride flags out and make a
big deal out of it. I'm definitely not a token.
But there is a big group called the log Cabin
Republicans who are gay people who are conservative and are
(09:53):
like we're the new kind of conservative gay voices, and
they have like a listing of what they have, a
whole artic about being what a normal gay is, and
they basically are like very wishy wash. It's not the
right word they're they're saying in a nice way, like
we just want our money and our borders to be
(10:15):
secure and all of those things. But yeah, if you
want to look it at you can. But it's again,
it's it's a very us versus them arguments. It's very
everyone else in the queer community who doesn't think like
me is not a normal gay, but I am all
(10:37):
while the administration is widdling down rights that impact the
entire queer community. And yes, it will impact you one day,
Yes it will. I promise you it will. So that
is some of the bad that's going on. But you know,
(10:58):
Pride is about resistance. That's why it got started stone
Wall Like, if you want to learn more about the
history of that, you can see the podcast that we've
been talking about on the show after Live season two.
But it started out as resistance and people are fighting
(11:18):
in court at the local level and organizations that we
mentioned in Feminess around the World segments for instance, like
people are fighting. So I know it's been a rough
pride in a lot of ways, but we will keep going,
and I really do. I've been happy to see people
who celebrated and who still had joy during this pride
(11:44):
and are still keeping fight going. So yes, yes, listeners,
please let us know if there are any organizations or
topics around this you would like us to come back
to or shout out, or if you had to it's
like a fun pride, let us know about it. You
can email us at Hello at Stuffwenever Told You dot com.
(12:05):
You can find us on Blue Skype, Molso podcast, or
on Instagram and TikTok at stuff One Never Told You.
We're also on YouTube and we have a book you
can get where we get your books. Thanks as always
to our super producer Christine or exective presuer Mya and
our contributor Joey. Thank you and thanks to you for
listening Stuff I Never Told You spection by Heart Radio.
For more podcasts from my heart Radio, you can check
out the Heart Radio, a Apple podcast, or if you
listen to your favorite shit
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