Monday Mini: Do Women Love Fall?

Yes. Yes they do. It turns out there are a lot of reasons why.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Adie and Samantha. I'm welcome to stuff
I never told you production by Heart Radio and we
have a bit of a lighter Monday mini today. But
I was curious and I did find some interesting things

(00:26):
about this topic as we move into Fall. I was
just wondering why I and so many of my woman
friends love Fall so much. And I've seen a lot
of jokes about like women in Fall, what's going on?
Do you like Fall? Samantha, loveful? Love loveful? It's my favorite.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I mean there's as a lover of cardigans and soups,
I mean, how can you not Yeah, I would be
I feel like I would be just a hypocrite not
the love fall.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yes, and you've touched on two of the big reasons
people do love Wow. Yes, I also love Fall. It's
my favorite season. As we go through these reasons, I'll
kind of point out some of the ones that I
relate to. But it's not just because of Halloween. I
do love Halloween, but it is a lot of stuff
about Halloween. It turns out there are a lot of

(01:26):
articles on social media posts, many of them, as I said,
jokes about why women love Fall and Halloween and some
of them are pretty telling and often kind of sexists,
I have to say, and we'll get into that. So
why do women love fall? The number one reason I
ran into pretty much we can wear comfortable clothing.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yes, we'll say Annie. So I was so excited about
going up to New York during September. I have two
really cute swetters I just recently fought. I was like, yes,
I'm wanna pack these. Girl. It was too hot, and
I was so disappointed that I really wanted to wear
my sweaters. I got to wear it one night, like

(02:07):
for two nights, I got to.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Wear a sweater.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
I was ready to be ready to be in that
fall girl sweater mode.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yes, oh that's a travesty. Did you see any leaves?
Did you? Oh? My god?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I will say where we were, because we went pretty
far up north. We got to see a lot of
forges leaves. I'm trying to figure out how to post
them because apparently on Instagram, through just the phone and
not through the app, you can't post multiple pictures or
I just don't know how because I was like.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Why, okay, well I'm excited to see them.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I'm gonna show you. I did post a video on
TikTok of I was going through fog with some of
the beautiful leaves. Oh yeah, yeah, you get a song
on it and everything.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh yeah, yes, Well we'll get more into that aspect
in a second, but yeah, the sweaters are a big,
a big part. The other is nice enough and much
of the US at least that we don't have to
put too much thought into our clothing, and or if
you do like putting thought into your clothing, it's comfy

(03:11):
clothing as opposed to the minimal layers of summer and
the many many layers of winter. People wrote about not
feeling like they have to paint their toenails or shave
their legs. If those are things that you do, it
doesn't take as much effort to get ready. People said,
as well, you aren't sweating too much. You don't have

(03:32):
to shower as much because of that. It was a
lot of stuff about the clothing and getting ready and
just wanting to wear something comfortable, which made sense. There's
a less concern about beach body. Some people said, more
instances for indulgences in bulkier clothing. So like eating Halloween candy,

(03:52):
you're eating pie and you got your bulky clothing on
so you're not too worried about it about how you look.
Brings us to the next point, coziness, which goes beyond
just clothes. A lot of people wrote about, you know,
curling up under a blanket with a good book or
a movie. The food soups, chilies, comfort foods. Oh this

(04:19):
one does, I do get excited. I haven't even really
cocked it until recently, but I'll be like, oh, I
can start making my chilies now. Yes, so that's the thing.
This one I can't say. But a lot of people
wrote about if you're in a relationship, cuddling with the partner,

(04:40):
having this kind of excuse to get close. I guess.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
I mean, I do love my partner, but that's not
the reason I like fall blankets and my cozy cardigans.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
A lot of people in a very heteronormative sense. A
lot of people also wrote like they like seeing their
boy friend in a sweater, like they like a plane
or sweater or something like that.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
The boyfriend in a nice sweater.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, yeh nice? Uh huh, yes, sure sure. Another one
I don't relate to as much, but I can understand
if you like something like football coming together over a
game and watching it together. That happens in fall, well,
it begins in tall. If you look forward to the
end of your holidays, there's nostalgia and anticipation. If you don't,

(05:30):
this is kind of your last hurrah before they come.
So there's that. And then going back to the leaves.
It's pretty and it feels nice outside. Yeah, I love
feels magical. People said that word a lot too. It
felt kind of magical. I love the aesthetica fall. I
love the leaves. I love the like pumpkins, I you know,

(05:53):
Halloween related. I love the spooky decor. I love the
chill in the air, like it's not quite cold you
usually yet, but it's got a little chill. I just
I love it. I love it. And the leaves is
so pretty. The colors are so pretty, envirant m Apparently
the cooler temperatures offer more clarity of thinking than in

(06:16):
summer months. There's been some studies into this. The temperature,
along with fall activities, encourage people to get out more,
which has health benefits, which is something that's also been
looked into. Some reported about how it feels transitional and
refreshes them, gives them new energy. Psychologists call this a
temporal landmark. For some, it means coming back into a

(06:40):
routine after a less predictable summer. So a lot of
people go on vacation in the summer, like their schedule
isn't quite as routine, But in the fall, you're sort
of settling back into something. But Okay, why is this
specific to women? Well, I and several others would argue
that men aren't as pressured about their appearance as women are,

(07:00):
So that's why, Like the comfy clothes was the number
one reason I ran into looking into this. So much
of this was about not having to put so much
time and effort into how women look. And also I
think it's kind of telling that a lot of the
other stuff was about allowing yourself to have comfort or
to slow down, which I think a lot of women

(07:23):
have some guilt about or don't feel they don't feel
like they can do it all the time. But when
fall comes in, you're like, oh, I can get this
book and get a blanket and it's some chili and
like only things Samantha. I found this article on Glamour

(07:50):
called why women look more like girlfriend material in the
Fall that I couldn't quite tell if it was a
joke or not. I don't think it was, but I
have a few choice quotes from it. Okay, okay, all right.
In the summer, the resulting thirty second fantasies are more

(08:10):
along the lines of skinny dipping, which inevitably leads to
slow standing eye contact sex, or simply trying to imagine
what her boobs might look like based on the shape
of her nose and eyes. Not a full proof system,
but surprisingly accurate. In the fall, however, checking a woman
out tends to make me think, Wow, I'd like to

(08:32):
be in a long term relationship with that girl. So
if it's not obvious, this is written by a man
who is talking about why he checks out women. Here's
another quote. Maybe it's pretty crude. The abundance of visible
skin in the summer causes overstimulation and acute panic. How
will I ever be able to have sex with all
these women? How will I live with myself if I don't?

(08:56):
Trying to be with just one woman is like a
five year old sleeping in on this morning. If you
haven't already found a relationship that's right for you, short
skirt season is not the time to start looking so
the article goes on, more reasons are given that basically
equates to more clothes on a woman give her more

(09:18):
personality and intelligence, which, to the to the credit of
the offer, he goes out of his way to specify
men also look stupid in the summer. Okay. Yeah. He
also mentions not wanting to be alone for fall time activities,

(09:38):
which I thought was kind of funny. Cuffee, you have
told me about this, You have told me about this.
I just want to say that I loosely understand the point,
but it's rooted in essentially, what a woman wears is
a measure of her until rogens or some kind of

(10:01):
personality trait which you can tell something about, like I
wear less Star Wars shirts. That's pretty telling. Liked live
she likes Star Wars. But I don't think that like
more or less showing of skins an accurate barometer of intelligence.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
That's an interesting rhetoric.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, it was quite interesting. That's a word for it. Yeah, okay, Well,
obviously all of these things are generalizations, and not all
women love fall I know for some people, moving into
cooler months can trigger depressive symptoms. On top of that,

(10:46):
this is back to school time and that usually falls
to women to pick up more slack if they have children,
though on the other hand, you may have more free
time than during the summer while your kids are at school,
so or on the other other hand, if you're in
school yourself, it can be a time of reinvention. I
did that a lot in college, not successfully usually, but

(11:07):
I'd be like, this year, I'm gonna wear all stripes.
I did do that one year, that all striped shirt.
My shirts are all stripes. I was trying to look
smart like this. This the rhetoric this guy has has
infiltrated my mind. I don't think it's true in any way,

(11:31):
but I guess I did think, like if I put
on a cardigan, looked smarter.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I mean, I do make jos about looking like a librarian,
but that's not necessarily equating it to smarter in my head.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
But maybe, yeah, to make it clear, I don't think
it's true, but I do think that there has been
that narrative of like associating this sort of fall look
with a professor or a librarian or something like that.
Also to put in here, if you're like me, I
have long preferred comfort over fashion, especially after the pandemic

(12:07):
looking good, I would say, But it is true that
in the before times I preferred a very a comfy
sweater to a tank top that I looked good in.
I liked the comfort part better. It is interesting that
a lot of the very kind of traditional gendered responses
were let me be comfortable, take less time to look
good enough to go out, and let me be just

(12:28):
comfy in my activities. And you can look great in
a sweater. I don't want to make it sound like
you can't, but I think the traditional the gender stereotypes
we have is that, yeah, the more skin you show,
the sexier you are. But in the fall, I can
out wear my sweater somewhere, my coats.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Give me my pea coat, yeah, my scarfs, yes, yes,
but yeah I mine is also largely Halloween creepy times too, though.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
So that's fair. It's got a vibe. It's just got
the whole vibe. It does. It does pumpkins, Oh, I
love pumpkins. I'm working on our hopefully I'll get it
done in time. We'll see. But I'm working on our
like one shots minty fiction for this month, and I'm
trying to make it Halloween bye because it comes out

(13:28):
on Halloween, I think, and it's already got a creepy pumpkin,
so creepy pumpkins. Yes, well, listeners, I would love to
hear from you. You love fall, they hate fall?

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