October 5, 2020 • 17 mins
Anney and Samantha dig into the themes of the dark highschool satire Heathers. How very.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff
I never told you production of I Heart Radio. All right, okay, guys,
it's happened. It finally happened after years of talking about
it and even her buying me the actual DVD. Yeah,
(00:28):
we finally watched Heathers. We thought it would be be
kind of fun because there are several moments where Annie
and I have the have you seen this? You haven't
seen this? Oh my god, I can't believe you haven't
seen this moments. So we thought we would come back
and revisit some of those that we've talked about because
I know several of you have written and asked, wait,
I cannot believe Annie has not seen Heathers. And I
(00:49):
was like, I'm in agreement. We need to have this discussion,
and finally made it happen. So you wanted about how
I failed all this time just a little bit, just
a little bit, but no, I just kind of wanted
to talk about and revisit the classic Heathers and I'm
not gonna lie. I was a little scared because I
didn't know how it would hold up. Has It's been
(01:11):
years since and it was made or released in nineteen nine,
so before a lot of our listeners were even born
could understand what's happening with this movie in general. So, um, Annie,
what did you think about the movie? I really liked.
It is not what I expected at all. I will
(01:31):
tell you that what did you expect? Um? It was
darker than I thought it was going to be, which
seems to be the overarching reaction to it even when
it comes to making it, which we're gonna talk about
a little bit. But yeah, I was not expecting that
level of darkness. I did really um enjoy it, and
(01:56):
I loved how stylized it was, like with the color
SKI aimed to really drive home this is like a satire.
Um Christian Slater really freaks me out. I kept thinking
it was like Jack Nicholson and Jack Nicholson really freaks
me out. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. But now I did
enjoy it, and I thought it was pretty funny but
(02:19):
also like pretty pretty messed up, pretty dark. Right. So
I didn't realize when we were talking about this movie
as well as my other pick on the Witches, that
I have pretty much dated myself really hardcore because the
past year was the thirty year anniversary for that movie.
So within the last couple of years, I'm like, well,
I'm bringing you some really outdated movies, and I apologize.
(02:43):
It's still it seems to have like a cult following.
And I was reading articles because you know, when the
thirtieth anniversary of something that has a cult following comes out,
there's a lot of events, and I was reading a
bunch of articles that said the audience was generally like
young people, younger people. So it's still resonating, um clearly,
and for people who aren't aware, can you do like
(03:03):
a very quick plot summary, I can, so essentially, um,
just f y, not that this is really triggering triggering,
but we do talk about suicide within the sexual assault
within this movie as well, because it plays on several
eighties tropes, especially in high school era. So think about
all of the cool movies that had the valley girl
(03:27):
in like idea, as well as the hierarchy within school.
So the jock versus the nerd versus the ugly people,
which is unfortunate because that's not a thing I should,
like I say ugly people. It is just they put
ugly people as in they don't fit the perfect iconic
idea of like traditional cute girl or a cute guy
or whatever, so therefore you're just in that group. Um.
(03:49):
But yeah, So essentially it starts out with Veronica, who
is a very rich girl that ends up paying out
with a group of other very popular girls all named Heather. Um.
And by the way, each of them are assigned to
color and you see that throughout the movie, as well
as the fact that the scrunchy thing has this it's
(04:11):
like the crown for whoever the most popular or the
leader girls throughout the movie, which I've always thought was
like so eighties, this is so perfect. I love it. Um.
But you see Veronica, who is this really kind girl
who plays the lead. She is the anti heroin essentially
in this I think she's the heroin but not because
you see the back and forth of her trying to
(04:34):
be cool but not cool. Um, as well as the
fact that she actually can imitate anybody's handwriting, so she
is well liked and is used for that ability by everyone,
actually everyone throughout the whole thing. And it opens up
with the scene with her being buried into the ground.
And I don't know, I've always been confused, like is
(04:55):
that literal or is I supposed to say something because
they are playing um croquet, the game they're playing croquet,
which is already kind of bougie in itself, and she
is somehow one of the markers in the game. And
then she kind of like I guess, has to come
up into the hierarchy of popularity and then goes to
(05:17):
the point of being an anarchist and say I don't
want this anymore type of things. So essentially you followed
this whole thing with this group, and slowly, one by
one by one, people start dying, people the really popular kids.
And of course this is where Jack Nicholson ak Christians
later comes in as the Is he the antagonist because
(05:38):
he also tells like the bad boy hero look as well.
I mean his name is j G which I assumed
was like James Dean probably, so he's the rebel, but
he's an actual rebel. And I think all of those
is also kind of making fun of the uh And
I told any about this and she didn't know what
I was talking about. The rat Pack movies, not back,
the brat Pack movies, and the rat Pack made of
(06:00):
like Molly Ringwalls, Amelia Estevez, all of them, and they
used to have all the John Hughes films, so this
kind of made fun of that trope as well. Yeah,
oh yeah. I stood out in comparison to the upbeat
teenage movies at the time, or at least happy ending
teenage movies of the time, because all of them is
some kind of teenage angst. Yeah, absolutely in all of them,
(06:23):
but this one is a lot darker, a lot more cursing,
a lot more violence. Yeah yeah, so yeah, I mean
essentially it's like a satire look of like clicks and
teenage power in high school and Veronica and j D
accidentally kill this first Heather, and then it became well
(06:47):
j D want to want to D did? Yeah, I
think that's fair. Well anyway, it wasn't necessarily what Veronica
was into, but um, and then they frame it as suicide,
and so that is something when we say it's dark
like that was one of the things that I was
like wow, because I I know, like, if you even
touch on that subject, and rightfully so today on like
(07:10):
a teenage program, there's like that government message at the
end with like the phone line, and this whole movie
like suicide comes up a lot because they consistently frame
it as suicide. And there's even like in the papers
reporting on like it's the trend um school bombing is involved.
I was not expecting that. Um, So it's pretty serious stuff.
(07:31):
And it also touches on like eating disorders, fat shaming, homophobia,
self harming, and sexual assault. And apparently it was almost
much darker because the original ending had Veronica more involved
going throughout this. She she has this like teenage I
(07:54):
don't know if I would call it love, but she's
with j D and he's growing for using more violent.
At first, she's growing along with it, but then she
kind of is like, no, this is bad, this is wrong.
The original ending had Ronica much more involved in all
of it, and the school did get blown up and
the students went to prom in Heaven. Can you imagine, right,
(08:16):
going to see that movie? Right? It was supposed to
be like if Stanley Kubrick made a teen movie. That's
what the whole goal was was to write the script
and get Stanley Kubrick to make it. But it did
change a lot, largely based on what when knowing a
writer brought to the role, and also a lot of
pushback from studios. For sure, writer's agent begged her not
(08:39):
to do it. She was fifteen at the time. A
lot of actors whose names I recognized their parents would
not let them be in this movie. Yeah, it was
a meaning that definitely became a trendsetter for these ironic
I guess scathing conversation conversations or commentary on high schools
and know what it is supposed to be and what
(09:01):
shouldn't be and how good it was and how it
really wasn't that great kind of conversation because you know,
later on you had Job Breakers, which was a very
much kind of an adaptation to that as well in
a different way, which had um Rose McGowan in it
as well, kind of playing almost I think she was
the one that was no she was the main mean
in that one. Never mind, I think who wasn't. The
(09:22):
Noxima girl was the not mean mean. I never seen
it this one. I'm okay with you not seeing There's
been a long time to not see that. But it's
it's also got a cult following two Job Breakers in itself,
but it does have that conversation of what is its
expectation and were not a writer? Was a darling of
the eighties. Darling not because she was adorable, because she
(09:44):
was so sassy and frank and just sardonic to the core.
So that kind of followed her around, and she this
was the beginning for her, not the beginning, but part
of the beginning for her and establishing her as this character.
It was a great role, and she did a fantastic
job in it, so good. Yeah. But I think that
was the big schocker for me. UM, because a lot
(10:06):
of what I would, you know, think of teen movies
wouldn't either wouldn't touch on these subjects or they wouldn't
do it in the way that this movie did. And
I was reading articles, all these articles that were written
for the thirtieth anniversary, and um, people were saying it
would not get made today. UM, I don't think no,
because this was before Columbine. UM. And that's the big
(10:29):
thing they say, is like school violence. Um, on that level,
it wouldn't get made. Many have said it predicted all
kinds of things. UM. So it was interesting to watch
it from like modern eyes and being astounded that it
got made. And I think because of that, like when
(10:49):
any of the like self harm came up, or there's
like a sexual as salt kind of happening in the
background of one scene and I was just continuously how
did this get made? Definitely, so this is definitely during
the time of the era when violence was being blamed
on what you see. So the whole commentary of like,
(11:12):
these video games are violent and it's teaching out kiss
these things, and I mean, and it's kind of like
talking about how it desensitized teenagers. And so this is
what it looks like when teenagers of this since it
dies as well as it becomes a public fawning when
you see a tragedy instead of you know, the realities
of what it was. So it's this whole breakdown in commentary.
(11:34):
And it was not subtle in any way. It was
in your face, smack you in the face with it.
And yes, no way in hell could it be made
again today. And I would not recommend this to any teenagers.
I don't think. Well, and that's interesting to you because
they so there is a musical um, but I've heard
it's much more upbeat. I'm sure. There was a TV
(11:56):
show that I think is permanently canceled because they did
on a hold when the Parkland shootings happened, and then
I think that was it. They were like, well we
can't do this um and yeah I did. I I appreciated.
I guess it felt really honest in the way that
we see kind of these more glossy representations of high
(12:19):
school and this one felt more honest of what it
really is. Even though it was a satire. It was
over the top and to see these young people really
play into this power game and like having that amplified
and recognizing it like we you know, I was there,
I was in high school and I could you knew
these power dynamics and just how brutal and how many
(12:45):
people it hurts. Yeah, yeah, and I think, like I
will say again, because it is a dark comedy, like
you kind of sit there and wonder which part of
them was supposed to laugh. Yeah, there's definitely those moments
because it was again necessarily uh advertised as a drama
or anything that feel good John Hughes stuff. It definitely
(13:07):
was again a smack in the face and it was
a commentary about get over yourself. This is what it is.
But they did make sure and I don't know, as
you said that the ending had changed, why not on
writer's character. Veronica ended up being like, hey man, it's
not all that bad. These people don't deserve this. Get
over yourself and this, I mean even his outfit though. Yeah,
(13:28):
the first thing I thought was, oh my god, this
is kind of the stereotype we see in MATS shootings
and uh, like the actual gunman, this is the wardrobe
that they talked about. But it wasn't actually called like
until like the what late nineties, so that that actually
became a thing thing, Like I didn't even realize until
we watched that again, I was like, shoot, he's literally
in an outfit that could have been dubbed as part
(13:50):
of the Columbine shooting as well. Yeah, well he was
an angry white dude, right who didn't get what you
want and was mad about it, right, Um. And I
do like how they played on that too, because a
lot of times if you took away like before you
know he's going to blow up the school, he has
played as like the cool rebel character. Yeah, but throughout
(14:13):
this you you see that through that that he's just bad.
He's not like he's violent and he hurts people. And
the people he hurt who you were originally painted as
the villains, like, they still did terrible things, but there
was people and they had humanizing traits, and yeah, I
(14:35):
appreciated that. I liked that they flipped that. Um, I
think and again, one of these things that you couldn't
make about this is because it was so over the
top obvious that it was entire And that's the only
difference as where today things are taken to like people
call it a satire, but you're like, wait, are you
endorsing this because this is not helping the situation, Um
(14:56):
that this too tongue and is not tongue in cheek,
is too hitchy or today's audience like they want to
have that unsure of like maybe he is a good guy,
like he ends up being the absolute worst guy and
you see it because he's the stalker that you're like what,
But yeah, that becomes like that is an appreciative thing,
but you can't have that today. And I wouldn't recommend
(15:17):
it being used today. And again I wouldn't recommend it
to people young kids. And I'm like, oh damn, that
was a lot darker than I remember. And I don't
understand how I was like, this is a great movie.
And I still do appreciate the qualities of one own
a writer, a Christian Slater like all of them. Shannon
Doherty was in this, like all of them, playing these
really over the top characters. Um. But then at the
same time, I'm like, Okay, yeah, I'm gonna put that
(15:38):
in my lock box. Yeah. It aged not so well,
but it made its point. Yeah, And I think when
people were curious as to why so many younger people
have latched onto I do think it's kind of the
honesty of it, Like, even as unfortunate as it is,
that's more like the experience a lot of us had
(15:59):
or are having, than or we'll have. I don't want
to leave anyone out. Hope it changes. Yeah, God, I
mean to me to fingers crossed for that. But yeah,
that's our thoughts on Heather's. Let us know if you
want us to come back and do a bigger episode
on it, or if there's any other movies we should
(16:21):
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Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff
I never told you production of I Heart Radio. All right, okay, guys,
it's happened. It finally happened after years of talking about
it and even her buying me the actual DVD. Yeah,
(00:28):
we finally watched Heathers. We thought it would be be
kind of fun because there are several moments where Annie
and I have the have you seen this? You haven't
seen this? Oh my god, I can't believe you haven't
seen this moments. So we thought we would come back
and revisit some of those that we've talked about because
I know several of you have written and asked, wait,
I cannot believe Annie has not seen Heathers. And I
(00:49):
was like, I'm in agreement. We need to have this discussion,
and finally made it happen. So you wanted about how
I failed all this time just a little bit, just
a little bit, but no, I just kind of wanted
to talk about and revisit the classic Heathers and I'm
not gonna lie. I was a little scared because I
didn't know how it would hold up. Has It's been
(01:11):
years since and it was made or released in nineteen nine,
so before a lot of our listeners were even born
could understand what's happening with this movie in general. So, um, Annie,
what did you think about the movie? I really liked.
It is not what I expected at all. I will
(01:31):
tell you that what did you expect? Um? It was
darker than I thought it was going to be, which
seems to be the overarching reaction to it even when
it comes to making it, which we're gonna talk about
a little bit. But yeah, I was not expecting that
level of darkness. I did really um enjoy it, and
(01:56):
I loved how stylized it was, like with the color
SKI aimed to really drive home this is like a satire.
Um Christian Slater really freaks me out. I kept thinking
it was like Jack Nicholson and Jack Nicholson really freaks
me out. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. But now I did
enjoy it, and I thought it was pretty funny but
(02:19):
also like pretty pretty messed up, pretty dark. Right. So
I didn't realize when we were talking about this movie
as well as my other pick on the Witches, that
I have pretty much dated myself really hardcore because the
past year was the thirty year anniversary for that movie.
So within the last couple of years, I'm like, well,
I'm bringing you some really outdated movies, and I apologize.
(02:43):
It's still it seems to have like a cult following.
And I was reading articles because you know, when the
thirtieth anniversary of something that has a cult following comes out,
there's a lot of events, and I was reading a
bunch of articles that said the audience was generally like
young people, younger people. So it's still resonating, um clearly,
and for people who aren't aware, can you do like
(03:03):
a very quick plot summary, I can, so essentially, um,
just f y, not that this is really triggering triggering,
but we do talk about suicide within the sexual assault
within this movie as well, because it plays on several
eighties tropes, especially in high school era. So think about
all of the cool movies that had the valley girl
(03:27):
in like idea, as well as the hierarchy within school.
So the jock versus the nerd versus the ugly people,
which is unfortunate because that's not a thing I should,
like I say ugly people. It is just they put
ugly people as in they don't fit the perfect iconic
idea of like traditional cute girl or a cute guy
or whatever, so therefore you're just in that group. Um.
(03:49):
But yeah, So essentially it starts out with Veronica, who
is a very rich girl that ends up paying out
with a group of other very popular girls all named Heather. Um.
And by the way, each of them are assigned to
color and you see that throughout the movie, as well
as the fact that the scrunchy thing has this it's
(04:11):
like the crown for whoever the most popular or the
leader girls throughout the movie, which I've always thought was
like so eighties, this is so perfect. I love it. Um.
But you see Veronica, who is this really kind girl
who plays the lead. She is the anti heroin essentially
in this I think she's the heroin but not because
you see the back and forth of her trying to
(04:34):
be cool but not cool. Um, as well as the
fact that she actually can imitate anybody's handwriting, so she
is well liked and is used for that ability by everyone,
actually everyone throughout the whole thing. And it opens up
with the scene with her being buried into the ground.
And I don't know, I've always been confused, like is
(04:55):
that literal or is I supposed to say something because
they are playing um croquet, the game they're playing croquet,
which is already kind of bougie in itself, and she
is somehow one of the markers in the game. And
then she kind of like I guess, has to come
up into the hierarchy of popularity and then goes to
(05:17):
the point of being an anarchist and say I don't
want this anymore type of things. So essentially you followed
this whole thing with this group, and slowly, one by
one by one, people start dying, people the really popular kids.
And of course this is where Jack Nicholson ak Christians
later comes in as the Is he the antagonist because
(05:38):
he also tells like the bad boy hero look as well.
I mean his name is j G which I assumed
was like James Dean probably, so he's the rebel, but
he's an actual rebel. And I think all of those
is also kind of making fun of the uh And
I told any about this and she didn't know what
I was talking about. The rat Pack movies, not back,
the brat Pack movies, and the rat Pack made of
(06:00):
like Molly Ringwalls, Amelia Estevez, all of them, and they
used to have all the John Hughes films, so this
kind of made fun of that trope as well. Yeah,
oh yeah. I stood out in comparison to the upbeat
teenage movies at the time, or at least happy ending
teenage movies of the time, because all of them is
some kind of teenage angst. Yeah, absolutely in all of them,
(06:23):
but this one is a lot darker, a lot more cursing,
a lot more violence. Yeah yeah, so yeah, I mean
essentially it's like a satire look of like clicks and
teenage power in high school and Veronica and j D
accidentally kill this first Heather, and then it became well
(06:47):
j D want to want to D did? Yeah, I
think that's fair. Well anyway, it wasn't necessarily what Veronica
was into, but um, and then they frame it as suicide,
and so that is something when we say it's dark
like that was one of the things that I was
like wow, because I I know, like, if you even
touch on that subject, and rightfully so today on like
(07:10):
a teenage program, there's like that government message at the
end with like the phone line, and this whole movie
like suicide comes up a lot because they consistently frame
it as suicide. And there's even like in the papers
reporting on like it's the trend um school bombing is involved.
I was not expecting that. Um, So it's pretty serious stuff.
(07:31):
And it also touches on like eating disorders, fat shaming, homophobia,
self harming, and sexual assault. And apparently it was almost
much darker because the original ending had Veronica more involved
going throughout this. She she has this like teenage I
(07:54):
don't know if I would call it love, but she's
with j D and he's growing for using more violent.
At first, she's growing along with it, but then she
kind of is like, no, this is bad, this is wrong.
The original ending had Ronica much more involved in all
of it, and the school did get blown up and
the students went to prom in Heaven. Can you imagine, right,
(08:16):
going to see that movie? Right? It was supposed to
be like if Stanley Kubrick made a teen movie. That's
what the whole goal was was to write the script
and get Stanley Kubrick to make it. But it did
change a lot, largely based on what when knowing a
writer brought to the role, and also a lot of
pushback from studios. For sure, writer's agent begged her not
(08:39):
to do it. She was fifteen at the time. A
lot of actors whose names I recognized their parents would
not let them be in this movie. Yeah, it was
a meaning that definitely became a trendsetter for these ironic
I guess scathing conversation conversations or commentary on high schools
and know what it is supposed to be and what
(09:01):
shouldn't be and how good it was and how it
really wasn't that great kind of conversation because you know,
later on you had Job Breakers, which was a very
much kind of an adaptation to that as well in
a different way, which had um Rose McGowan in it
as well, kind of playing almost I think she was
the one that was no she was the main mean
in that one. Never mind, I think who wasn't. The
(09:22):
Noxima girl was the not mean mean. I never seen
it this one. I'm okay with you not seeing There's
been a long time to not see that. But it's
it's also got a cult following two Job Breakers in itself,
but it does have that conversation of what is its
expectation and were not a writer? Was a darling of
the eighties. Darling not because she was adorable, because she
(09:44):
was so sassy and frank and just sardonic to the core.
So that kind of followed her around, and she this
was the beginning for her, not the beginning, but part
of the beginning for her and establishing her as this character.
It was a great role, and she did a fantastic
job in it, so good. Yeah. But I think that
was the big schocker for me. UM, because a lot
(10:06):
of what I would, you know, think of teen movies
wouldn't either wouldn't touch on these subjects or they wouldn't
do it in the way that this movie did. And
I was reading articles, all these articles that were written
for the thirtieth anniversary, and um, people were saying it
would not get made today. UM, I don't think no,
because this was before Columbine. UM. And that's the big
(10:29):
thing they say, is like school violence. Um, on that level,
it wouldn't get made. Many have said it predicted all
kinds of things. UM. So it was interesting to watch
it from like modern eyes and being astounded that it
got made. And I think because of that, like when
(10:49):
any of the like self harm came up, or there's
like a sexual as salt kind of happening in the
background of one scene and I was just continuously how
did this get made? Definitely, so this is definitely during
the time of the era when violence was being blamed
on what you see. So the whole commentary of like,
(11:12):
these video games are violent and it's teaching out kiss
these things, and I mean, and it's kind of like
talking about how it desensitized teenagers. And so this is
what it looks like when teenagers of this since it
dies as well as it becomes a public fawning when
you see a tragedy instead of you know, the realities
of what it was. So it's this whole breakdown in commentary.
(11:34):
And it was not subtle in any way. It was
in your face, smack you in the face with it.
And yes, no way in hell could it be made
again today. And I would not recommend this to any teenagers.
I don't think. Well, and that's interesting to you because
they so there is a musical um, but I've heard
it's much more upbeat. I'm sure. There was a TV
(11:56):
show that I think is permanently canceled because they did
on a hold when the Parkland shootings happened, and then
I think that was it. They were like, well we
can't do this um and yeah I did. I I appreciated.
I guess it felt really honest in the way that
we see kind of these more glossy representations of high
(12:19):
school and this one felt more honest of what it
really is. Even though it was a satire. It was
over the top and to see these young people really
play into this power game and like having that amplified
and recognizing it like we you know, I was there,
I was in high school and I could you knew
these power dynamics and just how brutal and how many
(12:45):
people it hurts. Yeah, yeah, and I think, like I
will say again, because it is a dark comedy, like
you kind of sit there and wonder which part of
them was supposed to laugh. Yeah, there's definitely those moments
because it was again necessarily uh advertised as a drama
or anything that feel good John Hughes stuff. It definitely
(13:07):
was again a smack in the face and it was
a commentary about get over yourself. This is what it is.
But they did make sure and I don't know, as
you said that the ending had changed, why not on
writer's character. Veronica ended up being like, hey man, it's
not all that bad. These people don't deserve this. Get
over yourself and this, I mean even his outfit though. Yeah,
(13:28):
the first thing I thought was, oh my god, this
is kind of the stereotype we see in MATS shootings
and uh, like the actual gunman, this is the wardrobe
that they talked about. But it wasn't actually called like
until like the what late nineties, so that that actually
became a thing thing, Like I didn't even realize until
we watched that again, I was like, shoot, he's literally
in an outfit that could have been dubbed as part
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of the Columbine shooting as well. Yeah, well he was
an angry white dude, right who didn't get what you
want and was mad about it, right, Um. And I
do like how they played on that too, because a
lot of times if you took away like before you
know he's going to blow up the school, he has
played as like the cool rebel character. Yeah, but throughout
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this you you see that through that that he's just bad.
He's not like he's violent and he hurts people. And
the people he hurt who you were originally painted as
the villains, like, they still did terrible things, but there
was people and they had humanizing traits, and yeah, I
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appreciated that. I liked that they flipped that. Um, I
think and again, one of these things that you couldn't
make about this is because it was so over the
top obvious that it was entire And that's the only
difference as where today things are taken to like people
call it a satire, but you're like, wait, are you
endorsing this because this is not helping the situation, Um
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that this too tongue and is not tongue in cheek,
is too hitchy or today's audience like they want to
have that unsure of like maybe he is a good guy,
like he ends up being the absolute worst guy and
you see it because he's the stalker that you're like what,
But yeah, that becomes like that is an appreciative thing,
but you can't have that today. And I wouldn't recommend
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it being used today. And again I wouldn't recommend it
to people young kids. And I'm like, oh damn, that
was a lot darker than I remember. And I don't
understand how I was like, this is a great movie.
And I still do appreciate the qualities of one own
a writer, a Christian Slater like all of them. Shannon
Doherty was in this, like all of them, playing these
really over the top characters. Um. But then at the
same time, I'm like, Okay, yeah, I'm gonna put that
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in my lock box. Yeah. It aged not so well,
but it made its point. Yeah, And I think when
people were curious as to why so many younger people
have latched onto I do think it's kind of the
honesty of it, Like, even as unfortunate as it is,
that's more like the experience a lot of us had
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or are having, than or we'll have. I don't want
to leave anyone out. Hope it changes. Yeah, God, I
mean to me to fingers crossed for that. But yeah,
that's our thoughts on Heather's. Let us know if you
want us to come back and do a bigger episode
on it, or if there's any other movies we should
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